In short
Overreaction Monday NFL Week 1 recap and Monday Night Football preview, arguing which teams looked “dead” vs “alive,” and debating whether early-season offense explosions and defensive “softness” are sustainable.
Guests (backgrounds)
- Adam Schefter (ESPN senior NFL insider; former NFL player; long-time league reporter).
- Dan Orlovsky (former NFL quarterback; NFL analyst).
- AJ Hawk (former Green Bay Packers linebacker; NFL analyst).
- Darius Butler (former NFL defensive back; NFL analyst).
- Clark Hunt (Kansas City Chiefs Chairman and CEO; franchise executive).
Key claims
- Week 1 produced an unusually high-scoring opening weekend, fueling “overreaction” narratives.
- The Chicago Bears’ offense may be historically explosive under Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams; Bears put up 6 rushing TDs and Caleb called it the “worst” they’ll be all season after the game.
- Defensive vulnerability may be partly due to less tackling/physicality in modern training and the impact of mobile quarterbacks.
- Green Bay’s offense/defense “collapsed” late in a loss; Packers are criticized for failing to finish games, with Brian Flores’ pressure scheme highlighted (78% pressure rate).
- Ravens looked near-flawless vs the Colts; Lamar Jackson’s operation and Derrick Henry’s continued dominance are framed as potentially “greatest team” territory.
- Miles Garrett’s knee arthroscopic surgery likely sidelines him at least a month, affecting upcoming matchups (Rams/Giants context).
- Cardinals’ win over the Chargers is treated as evidence they’re not as bad as expected; Chargers’ hype/gimmicks may be overstated.
- Josh Allen remains “Josh Allen,” with Joe Brady credited for a big win vs Houston.
Notable examples
Bears vs Panthers (Panthers scored 37); Packers vs Vikings (late collapse); Ravens vs Colts (Lamar/Zay Flowers hamstring; Jacoby Brissett wrist); Bills vs Texans (Josh Allen big plays); Cardinals vs Chargers (277 yards by Jacoby Brissett; blocked punts); Miles Garrett surgery; Chiefs vs Broncos MNF preview (Mahomes post-ACL return narrative).
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOWeek One NFL Highlights
0:45 to 2:14
Recap of the explosive performances from NFL Week 1 and preview of MNF.
“There's a couple teams that we're already crowning as the greatest and that's overreaction Monday in a nutshell college football delivered.”
Denver Broncos and Sean Payton
2:14 to 4:26
Discussion on Sean Payton's new role with the Broncos and Bo Nix's impact.
“I believe it was mahogany if I had to guess.”
Reactions to Teams' Performances
4:26 to 6:26
Analyzing teams' performances from Week 1, including the Packers and Cowboys.
“You know what I feel pretty good about, D.”
The Bears' Offensive Dominance
6:26 to 8:28
In-depth look at the Chicago Bears' offensive performance and potential.
“But the Bears' six rushing touchdowns are their most in any game since 1941.”
Defensive Trends in the NFL
8:28 to 11:14
Discussion on how defensive strategies are evolving in the NFL.
“But this isn't the only team that scored a bunch of points.”
Carson Wentz's Impact
11:14 to 13:14
Analysis of Carson Wentz's performance and its significance for his team.
“Well, it's also just like the quarterback play.”
The LaFleur Brothers' Coaching Styles
13:14 to 14:00
Comparing the coaching approaches of Matt LaFleur and his brother.
“Now, the reason why it might get talked about forever is because this goes to the number three storyline, a tale of two LaFleur's.”
Green Bay Packers Early Season Struggles
14:00 to 15:50
Analysis of the Packers' performance and coaching issues after their loss.
“And we told him before he did that he should probably never do that.”
Defensive Strategies and Pressures
15:50 to 19:22
Discussion on defensive strategies, particularly Brian Flores' pressure tactics and their impact on gameplay.
“Aaron Glenn's giving speeches after wins.”
Unexpected Performances: Cardinals vs. Chargers
19:22 to 23:14
Analysis of the surprising performances of the Arizona Cardinals and Los Angeles Chargers in week one.
“like, hey, we can get hit here, but that's okay as long as we don't get hit in these spots.”
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Rookie Head Coaches' Success
23:14 to 28:01
Exploring the success of rookie head coaches in their debuts during the NFL season.
“Don't be fooled, but I'm saying I got it.”
Josh Allen's Impressive Performance
28:01 to 29:25
Discussion on Josh Allen's performance and the Buffalo Bills' game against the Texans.
“I mean, watching him take over that game and play down in Houston, which we all have respect for the Houston defense, right?”
Reflections on Team Dynamics and Pressure
29:25 to 31:03
Analyzing the pressure on Josh Allen and the Bills' new head coach, Joe Brady.
“Nobody cares until you win a Super Bowl.”
Ravens' Dominance and Lamar Jackson
31:03 to 34:21
Exploring the Baltimore Ravens' performance and Lamar Jackson's standout game.
“I'm sure Conman remembers the 17-0 Patriots who had a chance to go undefeated, win the Super Bowl, dropped a couple interceptions.”
Zay Flowers and Offensive Strategies
34:21 to 37:01
Discussion on Zay Flowers, the Ravens' offense, and their new strategy under Declan Doyle.
“Ravens might be greatest team in NFL history.”
Injury Updates and Upcoming Matchups
37:01 to 42:00
Adam Schefter provides injury updates and discusses future matchups in the NFL.
“Colts are going to be better than any look yesterday.”
Joey Porter Jr.'s Inactive Status
42:00 to 43:31
Discussion about Joey Porter's absence in the game and trade possibilities.
“He did not play in the game on Sunday with a quote-unquote back issue.”
Deshaun Watson's Performance and Future
43:31 to 45:29
Analyzing Deshaun Watson's struggles and potential for a quarterback change in Cleveland.
“And so the Steelers have been open to listening to offers so far for what they would want back.”
Minnesota Vikings Quarterback Situation
45:29 to 47:01
Discussing the impact of injuries on the Vikings and Carson Wentz's role.
“And so, yeah, I don't know that Deshaun Watson's going to make it to there unless he starts playing considerably better.”
Injury Update on A.J. Brown
47:01 to 49:15
Report on A.J. Brown's injury status and its implications for the Patriots.
“Before I answer that, I've got a question for you.”
NFL Week 1 Recap
49:15 to 51:44
Recap of key moments and performances from NFL Week 1, focusing on various teams.
“No other backup quarterback ever had done that in an opening game across the NFL, and the only time it ever happened was with Fran Tarkington.”
John Harbaugh and Giants' Performance
51:44 to 55:29
Discussion on John Harbaugh's coaching style and the Giants' recent games.
“we didn't bring up John Harbaugh at all.”
Interview with Adam Schefter
56:00 to 56:24
The hosts discuss their excitement about collaborating with Adam Schefter for Monday Night Football.
“Well, you know, we've been to a couple NFL events, and because this particular show is not NFL media, we do not have access to, you know, certain stuff.”
NFL Week 1 Recap
57:29 to 59:04
A recap of NFL Week 1 highlights and discussions around key players and matchups.
“It is the greatest of all time and obviously NFL Week 1 Sunday Slate delivered explosives and highlights across the board.”
Chiefs vs. Broncos Preview
59:04 to 1:02:09
Analysis and expectations for the upcoming Chiefs vs. Broncos game.
“he came in because Alex Smith and the Kansas City Chiefs had already secured their spot in the playoffs.”
Discussion with Dan Orlovsky
1:02:09 to 1:08:55
Dan Orlovsky joins the discussion to share insights on the upcoming game and quarterbacks.
“Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is a stallion of a man who we're going to see on TV.”
Jackson Dart Performance Analysis
1:08:55 to 1:10:00
Analysis of Jackson Dart's performance and the impact of motion on defenses.
“and I have a quarterback that's the CAA guy, Jackson Dart.”
Analyzing Jackson Dart's Performance
1:10:00 to 1:13:41
Insights into Jackson Dart's impressive gameplay and the Giants' new strategy.
“kind of easier concepts for him to read.”
Concerns Over the Packers' Performance
1:13:41 to 1:15:56
Discussion on the Packers' inability to close games and issues with the offensive line.
“Yeah, Dan, listen, I know it's early, so I don't want to go crazy.”
The Roller Coaster Ride of Carson Wentz
1:15:56 to 1:20:39
Exploring Carson Wentz's unpredictable playing style and its implications for the Vikings.
“First thing is you have to go first down, second down, first down mentality-wise.”
Ravens' Dominance Over the Colts
1:20:39 to 1:24:01
Reviewing the Ravens' strong performance against the Colts and their offensive strategies.
“He's the first backup since 1950, Fran Tarkenton, to come in and have three touchdowns and no turnovers.”
Analyzing the Ravens' Dominance
1:24:01 to 1:25:06
Discussion on the Baltimore Ravens' impressive performance against the Colts.
“and I'm pumped that the Minnesota Vikings are doing it.”
Evaluating the Colts' Challenges
1:25:07 to 1:26:32
Debate over the Colts' offensive struggles and their impact on the game.
“One, I love the fact that they've gone back to under center motion.”
Ravens Defense and Colts' Loss
1:26:33 to 1:28:42
Insights on the Colts' defense and the impact of their key player trades.
“Well, I know they're not good enough on the perimeter right now offensively.”
Jaguars' Impressive Start
1:28:43 to 1:33:05
Exploring the Jaguars' performance and Trevor Lawrence's growth.
“Well, good for you to see that before it came because I was walking in there thinking we were just fine.”
NFL Teams Underperforming
1:33:06 to 1:35:00
Analysis of various NFL teams that fell short of expectations in week one.
“A little bit of like, I want to say this in the right way.”
Challenges Facing the Chargers
1:35:01 to 1:38:00
Discussion on the Chargers' struggles and their upcoming tough schedule.
“I thought the Lions coverage unit in the second half has to give you some concerns in the interior of their offensive line.”
Analyzing NFL Week 1 and Upcoming Challenges
1:38:00 to 1:39:20
Discussion on team performance and tough schedules in the NFL.
“They have Vegas for sure, but then if you just look right there, it is probably the worst schedule in the NFL.”
Insights on Patrick Mahomes and Game Strategy
1:39:20 to 1:40:40
Exploration of Patrick Mahomes' return and the need for strategic changes.
“A lot of the things we say, Dan says, he has said similar things.”
Dan Orlovsky's Perspective on NFL Performance
1:40:40 to 1:42:30
Dan Orlovsky shares thoughts on player performance and expectations.
“And just how he settles in, I mean, he's a crazy competitor.”
Ohio State Buckeyes vs. Texas Longhorns Recap
1:42:30 to 1:43:40
Recap of the Ohio State and Texas game with focus on Arch Manning's performance.
“He said he wants to talk to D-Bot about bringing up the CAA thing.”
Michigan's Win Over Oklahoma and Other College Updates
1:43:40 to 1:46:50
Discussion on Michigan's victory and overall college football landscape.
“incredible guest, somebody that is probably way too important to be on this show.”
Clark Hunt Discusses Chiefs' Legacy and Future
1:47:20 to 1:51:40
Clark Hunt shares insights on the Chiefs' history and aspirations.
“Your family is obviously massive influential in the football world, from NFL creating to AFL, to you name it.”
The Relationship Between Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid
1:51:40 to 1:52:00
Exploration of the dynamic between Mahomes and Reid and its impact on the team.
“and kind of the impact of Patrick's mindset on the franchise as a whole since he's been there?”
Clark Hunt on Chiefs Offense Evolution
1:52:00 to 1:53:10
Learn about the special relationship between Patrick Mahomes and Clark Hunt, and their expectations for the upcoming season.
“He's always been regarded as a quarterback whisperer.”
Wrap-up with Clark Hunt and Upcoming Schedule
1:53:10 to 1:54:05
Clark Hunt shares final thoughts and a score prediction while discussing the excitement of the football season.
“His team will be hosting Monday Night Football tonight.”
DraftKings Sportsbook Overview
1:55:14 to 1:55:50
Discussing NFL betting odds and expectations for the upcoming games.
Overreaction Monday: Fans' Reactions and Game Predictions
1:55:50 to 2:05:03
The hosts discuss fan reactions to Week 1 of the NFL season and share their predictions for the upcoming game between the Chiefs and Broncos.
“600 for both of them to have a touchdown.”
Wrap-Up of Game Predictions and Final Thoughts
2:05:03 to 2:06:00
The hosts finalize their game predictions and reflect on the NFL season, addressing the highs and lows of Week 1.
“Okay, had to do the – got to do, didn't have to do.”
NFL Week 1 Overreactions Begin
2:06:00 to 2:09:50
Pat McAfee discusses the emotional reactions of NFL fans after Week 1.
“was to do kickoff show and halftime show.”
Colts Fan Perspectives
2:09:50 to 2:11:05
The hosts examine tweets from Colts fans expressing their frustrations after a tough start.
“Okay, let's go to the next overreaction, shall we?”
Chargers and Cardinals Expectations
2:11:05 to 2:12:35
Discussion on the Chargers' poor performance and the unexpected success of the Cardinals.
“All right, let's go to the next overreaction, shall we?”
Cowboys' Disappointment
2:12:35 to 2:15:16
The hosts analyze a fan's overreaction regarding the Cowboys' season outlook after their first game.
“Okay, we'll put out our next episode four weeks from now.”
Giants' Division Hopes
2:15:16 to 2:17:55
Discussion on a tweet claiming the Giants will win the division, highlighting their recent performance.
“He's given up on Shoddy and everybody already after one game?”
Controversies in Overreaction Monday
2:17:55 to 2:20:00
AJ Hawk expresses skepticism about the nature of Overreaction Monday, prompting a lively debate.
“I mean, I'm not going to crown them Super Bowl champs this early, but, yeah, I definitely think there's something to it.”
Overreaction to Dayball and the Packers
2:20:00 to 2:22:47
A discussion on the performance of Dayball and the Packers' struggles, with a mix of opinions and reactions from the hosts.
“Jackson Dart, he looks like a brand-new quarterback.”
Ravens' Promising Start and Coaching
2:22:47 to 2:27:35
The hosts analyze the Ravens' performance and praise head coach Jesse Minter while discussing comparisons to past teams.
“They look great, and now he's the head man in Baltimore.”
Browns' Fans Woes
2:27:35 to 2:30:19
A deep dive into the frustrations of Browns fans, sharing their experiences and the team's struggles over the years.
“Okay, let's get to the next overreaction.”
Optimism for the Bears
2:30:19 to 2:33:12
The hosts discuss the Chicago Bears' potential and excitement for the season, highlighting key players and coaching.
“But if Ben Johnson is expecting to be the highest scoring offense in the history of the NFL, he said we're cool with winning 49-47 if that's what it needs to be.”
Bengals' Slow Start and Future Prospects
2:33:12 to 2:34:00
The segment covers the Bengals' typical slow start to the season and the hosts' thoughts on their chances moving forward.
“you're underground man at NC Parker 73 I'm seeing people pop up out of what are they doing down there?”
Bengals' Season Outlook
2:34:00 to 2:35:02
Discussion about the Bengals' performance and potential this season.
“The Bengals suck in the beginning of the seasons.”
Monday Night Countdown Excitement
2:35:02 to 2:35:48
Hosts express excitement for the upcoming Monday Night Football game.
“obviously as the Kansas City Chiefs play host to the Denver Broncos.”
Compliments and Comparisons
2:35:48 to 2:36:51
Hosts compliment a crew member's appearance and make humorous comparisons.
“To the crew here that built this setup here in the Foolish Lounge, great work.”
D-Bone's Transformation
2:36:51 to 2:37:55
Discussion about D-Bone's recent changes and the reactions it elicited.
“and I don't know if Rex would necessarily love this photo.”
Theories and Conversations
2:37:55 to 2:39:56
Conversations about changes in appearance and weight loss theories.
“We don't need anybody dying on this show.”
Final Thoughts and Shoutouts
2:39:56 to 2:41:05
Hosts share final thoughts and shoutouts before concluding the episode.
“And we like that he's getting after it to more doors.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Pat McAfee:Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to the most glorious day of them all. Overreaction Monday, September 14, 2026. This sports program begins now. Football is the greatest sport of all time. And week one, NFL Sunday provided something that maybe the NFL hasn't seen since 1970. 1970 there is a chance that we are just 43 points away for tonight's game for having the all-time Highest scoring NFL opening weekend in history offenses are dancing all over fields highlights are in abundance And there's a chance that your team could be the most explosive team in the history of the NFL There's also a chance that your team got dumped on yesterday There's a couple teams that people think are already dead There's a couple teams that we're already crowning as the greatest and that's overreaction Monday in a nutshell college football delivered.
0:54Pat McAfee:The NFL delivered. And tonight, on Monday Night Football, Patrick Mahomes, fresh off an ACL where he was not supposed to return this fast, does some superhuman stuff and will lead the Kansas City Chiefs all on the field to take on the Denver Broncos, who obviously had a run last year with Sean Payton in his second year with Bo Nix. Remember, Sean Payton, when he drafted Bo Nix, he came on our program, The Draft Spectacular, and he said, It was love at first meet with Bo Nix. Whenever they were doing their draft scouting and draft process, they went and took a visit with him. As soon as Bo Nix got in the car, Sean Payton fell in love.
1:30Pat McAfee:All they did was chit-chat for about 24 hours. And immediately after that, Sean Payton knew this was going to be the next guy that he wanted to lead his franchise. He had been given the keys to the Denver Broncos. This guy's going to be the guy. A lot of football at Auburn. People remember him not playing great. A lot of football at Oregon. He was unbelievable. And with the Denver Broncos, all he's done is continue to get better and better. Is this going to be the first time, though, that the Denver Broncos beat Patrick Mahomes in this stadium tonight? Or will the Kansas City Chiefs, potentially on a little bit of a redemption and a revenge tour after being ass last year, maybe they lead off another Super Bowl year and continue to build on this dynasty that is remarkable?
2:09Pat McAfee:Now, I am very lucky to be in the Foolish Lounge. got a lot of wood around me. I believe it was mahogany if I had to guess. And then behind me, obviously, it's the home of the shoes. So lucky to be here. So thankful to be here. AJ, thank you for traveling into the Thunderdome. Obviously, nine-year NFL vet Darius J. Butler back in the Thunderdome as well. The boys from the Toxic Table at Boston Conner and at Ty Schmidt. it. Uh-oh, Ty. Yikes. Yeah. There's some teams that are thinking maybe they're going to win the Superbowl. And then Ty, there's some teams that think their team might be absolute ass for three quarters.
2:53Pat McAfee:Your team was fantastic. And then for a fourth quarter, it was a complete meltdown from a veteran team. That's a veteran quarterback. That coach been here a long time. They got their roster. They completely collapsed. I don't want you to give your full green Bay Packers take right now just one word answer are you guys dead or you guys uh okay life support with a hyphen so that's technically two but i'm just that that was bad not the way you want to start the season at all one one bad quarter and have you feeling it's over let's go to one half of the hammer down cowboys ap tone tone cowboy hat looks good looks like he potentially got a little zipper burn too to pittsburgh steelers able to get a big time win over uh cooper cush in the atlanta falcons Now, tell me a little bit about TJ Watt maybe being the guy for the team this year.
3:42Pat McAfee:Maybe the veteran defense is great. Aaron Rodgers gets a big-time dub with Mike McCarthy. Just first reaction is we're not going to talk a lot about this game, even though we potentially should. How do Steelers fans feel after the first game in a Mike McCarthy era? Yeah, it was a new era with Coach McCarthy, but it kind of felt like the same product on the field, to be honest with you. The offense had their struggles. They were a bit sloppy, even though Aaron and Big Mike have had so much time together. Aaron played well. There were some drops and stuff like that, so I feel good about that side.
4:08But it was kind of like TJ was like, this is classic. Oh, I'm going to take this game over. I'm going to sack Cooper Rush. I'm going to pick off Cooper Rush. I'm going to score touchdowns. Their offense was horrendous. The defense looked good. I feel like it's a really good thing to get started off right under with a W, and then you can fix things coming into week two. We feel pretty good going into week two, I think.
4:28Pat McAfee:I'm happy you feel pretty good. You know what I feel pretty good about, D. Butch? I feel pretty good that we're back in the top five, top five, top five time in this overreaction Monday. Storylines in abundance, D, but we had a chance to have eyes on a game yesterday, and there's a chance that it's going to make an appearance. But let's start with number five. The Bears might actually be the best offense ever. Now, Ben Johnson comes in to the offseason and says, hey, listen, we want to have the highest scoring offense in NFL history. Okay. I know you guys got the great show on turf. I know the Miami Dolphins couple years ago home 70 on the Denver Broncos somehow well we see that here tonight in Kansas City who knows there's a chance anything can happen especially with the way points are being scored but then they go down to Carolina and Caleb Williams is under center Caleb Williams is going through the offense Caleb Williams after the game would go on to say this is the worst we're gonna be all season he's making plays with his arms with his legs and it looks like Ben Johnson's offense is fully in there debuts the Chicago Bears who you've been a believer in yeah for a long long time seemingly are their best version yet.
5:30Pat McAfee:Can their defense stop anybody, though? Panthers scored 37 against them as Roma Dunze conquers the Roman Empire with one of the greatest catches we've seen in a week one, D-Bug.
5:40Adam Schefter:Yeah, that will certainly be what we'll be keeping our eyes on is that defense. That was a conversation coming into the year about the Bears. Could their defense repeat with the turnovers? But, look, this headline is all about the offense, and, boy, did they put up the points. They were one half of the matchup that led to the highest scoring week one matchup in NFL history. Yeah, Ben Johnson, you rarely hear a head coach say, hey, I don't just want a Super Bowl. Usually that is the pinnacle. That's what everybody wants, that Lombardi trophy. But he made it clear. I don't want just a Super Bowl.
6:07Adam Schefter:I want records. I want to put up points. And boy, did they start off right. Yes, I've been a big fan of this marriage, Ben Johnson, Caleb Williams. But it all starts with that run game with Ben Johnson. Six rushing touchdowns. Caleb was dynamic in the air, obviously. But he also looks fast as hell when he tucks that ball and runs. So I'm excited about this Bears offense.
6:25Pat McAfee:Yeah, you see that Hembo stat right there, D-Bot. But the Bears' six rushing touchdowns are their most in any game since 1941. Wow. And then the first team with six rushing touchdowns and a season opener since the 1922 Canton Bulldogs, which we know they were Canton Bulldogs in a round-and-pound world. A.J. Hawk, is anybody going to be able to stop the Bears, pal? I know the NFC North is certainly looking spectacular early, and we're going to certainly have to hit on the Carson Wentz experience happening in Minnesota, which I guess we should have predicted all along. But Caleb and Ben getting together.
7:01Pat McAfee:Caleb was being talked about as maybe the greatest prospect in the history of NFL football alongside John Elway, Andrew Luck. You don't pass on this type of talent. Ben Johnson was being talked in the same exact way at the head coaching position. We should have assumed that they were going to be their absolute best on the offensive side here for the second season together. Yeah, I guess it's kind of hard to assume anything. Heading into week one, we don't really know what the teams are. But if we would have tried to prognosticate what this week one would have looked like for the Bears, I think it's not a shocking thing that their offense came out.
7:32I mean, Ben Johnson, he talked a big game, and he backed it up with what they did and how productive this offense was. And I just think week one going out there and scoring as many points for the Chicago Bears, what does it do for Caleb's confidence, for Ben Johnson and the rest of that coaching staff? They want to keep this thing rolling, and their defenses continue to get turnovers like they did last year.
7:51Pat McAfee:On that point, Foxy, that's starting to look like a Jared Goff-like offense up there just with a little extra sauce with what Caleb Williams is able to do, isn't it, Foxy? No, you're 100 % right, Pat. When I watch Caleb Williams do this, this is when I'm worried now. When he does the Caleb stuff, whatever, you're a great athlete, you can do that. When I see Caleb doing the Jared Goff stuff, and then obviously the run game marries with that, I am very, very, very nervous about this Chicago Bears team, and I'm very nervous that Ben Johnson being gone might affect the Lions in the long term. Yeah, there's a chance Ben Johnson being gone could affect.
8:24Pat McAfee:An absence of a great is what everybody's saying could potentially affect how the places that he left. But this isn't the only team that scored a bunch of points. Now, they obviously are the headline because they were unbelievable and their coach said this is exactly what we're going to do, and they actually do it. Spectacular. Points, points, points, baby. I mean, you're talking about points galore. I mentioned it there in the open. We're 43 points away. We are literally 43 points away from the highest scoring opening weekend in the history of the NFL. And I guess I just want to ask you, A.J.
8:54Pat McAfee:Hawk and D. Butt. Defense, see ball, get ball. I heard you guys were ahead of the times before anybody else. And then I heard Coach Tomlin last night, which, by the way, I thought he looked clean. I thought he did a good job. Congrats, Coach. Cannot wait to listen to you all year. He said he was talking with Coach Jason Garrett. You know, he ran a team as well. He's like, 20 years ago when we got in the league, boys were hitting. boys were tackling boys were boys were in there he thinks now with the lack of maybe uh preseason games the lack of training camp practices that are allowed to happen maybe there isn't a lot of tackling happening on the defensive side maybe there isn't a lot of full go so these first couple weeks defenses can get exposed now as opposed in the past when i thought it was a defensive head start d but we'll start with you i was it what is it because i mean obviously there's some magical offensive throws happening as well but we were at a game where you're just running through people i I mean, it is – should we see this happening for the foreseeable future, D-Bot?
9:48Pat McAfee:Is this the new trend? You know what? AJ, I'd like to get your take on the softness maybe of the defensive football nowadays.
9:53Adam Schefter:Yeah, Coach Tomlin made some great points. It's such a week-to-week lead. We even looked at it last year with the week one and the unders. I feel like the unders hit at a very, very high rate, and then this year is completely different. Who knows what next week will bring. But you talk about it with college, with a note not being preseason. It's like that for a lot of these NFL teams too. And then you talk about the element of, Mike Tomlin mentioned this as well, these mobile quarterbacks. And you're so programmed all offseason. Stay away from the quarterback. Stay away from the quarterback. We saw it on the hard knocks with Coach McDonald talking to his guy.
10:24Adam Schefter:Hey, stay away from the quarterback. And you get into the game, you have Lamar Jackson, Caleb Williams, Josh Allen. And obviously these guys are going to expose you. So I think that's part of it, tackling. But some of these offenses just hit the ground running, made plays. Some of these playmakers and obviously these coaches as well. Yeah, D, but when I watched this, I was trying to figure it out. like does anyone have any good theories around the league and Tomlin was I thought he made some good points about it and it is true like it's a it's a real thing to where if you don't tackle to the ground oh yeah throughout training camp once you get in that first game or the first preseason game you realize your body's like you're not ready for it because when you go if you say you're say you're in practice and you're running you're tagging off you get low okay we tag off or we thud it's a big difference when you go to the ground because it's just it I don't know how to describe it it takes a couple weeks I think to get your body in addition to doing that and getting up off the ground, all of that stuff, it sounds like basic and simple, but it's pretty real, I think.
11:13We saw it happen this week. What about you? Well, it's also just like the quarterback play. It feels like we spent all this offseason talking about how good the league is as far as quarterbacks goes, and I think we're seeing that now. Like, if you look and run down some of the stat lines some of these guys put up, I mean, Lamar Jackson threw for 350 yards. I mean, Carson Wentz had a hell of a day. Bingo, yeah.
11:30Pat McAfee:Well, what do you mean? You sounded surprised by that. I'm not. I'm not. I'm just saying when you started the game, you're thinking, You know, this guy's not going to – Kyler's not going to go out that early after, especially like early in the game. He throws that ball up for everybody to – anybody in the stands to get when they blitz him, a lot of pressure. And Carson Wentz steps in and looked very good. Yeah, he looked very good. Obviously, we're talking Kyler, JJ, Kyler, JJ, Kyler, JJ. And then all of a sudden, you forget about the Carson Wentz experience. I mean, should we have not maybe put two and two together?
11:56Pat McAfee:And I guess they were together last year, and we saw him go overseas and introduce the international crowd to what a Carson Wentz experience could be, which is absolutely exhilarating football. I mean, just no question about it. Carson Wentz is the most electrifying football player to ever play. I'm saying that as an Indianapolis Colts fan who watched him literally throw, I think, an offhanded shot put, zero yard pick six in a division title game, and then the next play, balance on the ground on top of the football and throw it 60 yards to Michael Pittman for a first down in a massive game. He is spectacular.
12:27Pat McAfee:The upside with Carson Wentz is outrageous. He's an incredibly athletic guy. He's wildly tough. Probably too tough for his own good, to be honest. I mean, if you had to explain Carson Wentz, you'd say too tough for his own damn good. But he is a spectacular spectacle whenever he is playing incredible football. He's got Justin Jefferson in a bucket, right? I mean, just an absolute dime, let alone two touchdowns now for Justin Jefferson. I think I heard that was his first home touchdown since 2024. I think I heard that. He was on quite a dry spell at home. Last year, I think he only had like two touchdowns.
12:59Pat McAfee:That's obviously a big talking point. None of us dropped him in our rankings after those stats last year. I think that just goes to show how much respect we have for Justin Jefferson. But Carson Wentz, Kevin O 'Connell, and a fourth-quarter comeback that people are going to talk about forever. I absolutely love it. Now, the reason why it might get talked about forever is because this goes to the number three storyline, a tale of two LaFleur's. One LaFleur. He didn't know the world. We saw his haircut before we saw him. He's from Los Angeles Rams, hired by the Arizona Cardinals. Everybody assumed he was going to be a head coach.
13:34Pat McAfee:He comes from the Rams and McVay. But everybody says, this guy's a good coach. This guy's a good coach. Obviously, his brother is a head coach for the Green Bay Packers, has been. Now, Matt LaFleur, Green Bay Packers head coach, he's been talking a lot. You know, he's been talking a lot. He talked about Jordan Love obviously being the best quarterback at the line of scrimmage that he's ever coached. Obviously, LaFleur and Gunther Kuntz decided to kick Aaron Rodgers out of Green Bay whenever he came out of that dark hole, which he went on Cam Hayward's show and said, I never do that again. And we told him before he did that he should probably never do that.
14:05Pat McAfee:But there's been a lot of chatter about LaFleur, Jordan Love, Gunther Kunz, being this next generation of Green Bay Packer greatness. And on opening day, they absolutely collapsed as a veteran crew. Let's head over to a Green Bay Packers owner, a man who's obviously diehard there. Cannot wait to hear this. Ty, the Vikings just kind of dumped all over the Green Bay Packers there late. Was it because Brian Flores maybe wore the boys out? Okay, 78 % pressure rate. We're bringing it. We're bringing it. We're bringing it. We're bringing it. We're bringing it. And then no longer. You had to tap out at the end.
14:42Pat McAfee:Bad decisions were being made. Ty Schmidt, where do we sit on the Green Bay Packers right now that you just said are on life support after the Carson Wentz experience yesterday? Yeah, I mean, I'm certainly not happy. And it's not just yesterday. I mean, you look at their last six games, all of which they have lost. In four of those, they had double-digit leads in the fourth quarter. So at a certain point, you know, is that coaching? I think a big part of it is coaching. Like these guys just, for whatever reason, they don't know how to finish. You mentioned the pressure. I mean, and maybe I was one of those guys who wasn't really giving Brian Flores enough credit for how good their defense was because the Packers blocked him up pretty good the first three quarters.
15:21and then it was almost like LeFleur told the offensive line at the start of the fourth quarter, hey, quit blocking. It was like that scene, remember the Titans, when, you know, Sunshine says, hey, let him through. Let him through, Ray. And that's what they were doing the entire – I mean, Love had no time to throw. And that's who they need to really step up. He played well. The offense looked great for three quarters, and then they just shit down their leg in the fourth quarter like they did in the playoff game against the Bears. So I'm not happy, but again, it's the first week. Now I'll tell you what, if they get beat by the Jets next week.
15:51Oh, man. Oh, they could? They could?
15:54Pat McAfee:They could. Aaron Glenn's giving speeches after wins. Yeah. I didn't know that was even possible. Exactly. Who wants to go flying like a fucking jet? He's saying that. And it's in New York. So we'll see. But like you guys were saying, that's just a terrible way to start the season, not the way you want to start the season at all. Now, we're talking about Aaron Glenn right now in the Jets. It's been really quiet over there. Yeah. Really quiet over there. They didn't have any leaks around the draft time. Obviously, we all respect Aaron Glenn's coaching ability. That's why he's the head coach of the New York Jets.
16:22Pat McAfee:But they got rid of everybody, and they're just trying to redo it. Geno Smith might be a dude. Congrats to them. What's going on with the Titans? I mean, that's a big question. Let's get back to the Green Bay Packers and Brian Flores bringing the pressure. And, A.J., this would be a question for you and D, but a lot more than it would be for me to talk about. But just as a player, which, you know, I played pickup football growing up. Hell, yeah. And also played in Plum's Pee Wee Football League. Is that what it was called? What position? PMFA, Blum Midget Football Association. Whoa, I didn't know it was called that.
16:53Pat McAfee:That's still what's going on. I believe so. Yeah, they still bring it right to it. It's called Pee Wee. I think it's called Pee Wee. I don't know. I'm not her. I played all the positions. First day I showed up, I was big. They put me in line, offensive line. Then we ran sprints at the end. I was pretty fast. Then they put me in, like, defensive end, which was cool for a little bit. I had a good time. I actually had good hands there. I did that entire thing. Then moved back to safety. Then running back then, never blew wide receiver. Tone was a quarterback. I only was able to play for a couple weeks because I was in the middle of literally playing soccer and potentially represent.
17:20Pat McAfee:Jim Thornton? You just throw it up outside to the guy. He would come down with it. It was really neat. Pat's out there somewhere. Okay. I was pretty good. I'm going to be honest. I was pretty good back in those days. I'm not going to lie. I grew up in Pittsburgh, played a lot of football. But on that note, playing football, if Brian Flores is sending that much pressure, the boys love it, AJ, right? Whenever a defense is deciding exactly how the offense is going to play. Now you're exposed for explosives whenever you're bringing it. that but it does feel like the boys will ride for you in the locker room if you put the onus on them to apply the pressure this 78 pressure rate obviously the highest of week one but this is kind of flores's thing right and this is like flores is going to bring it with van ginkel who seemingly have been playing under a one strip right there too yeah he's been he's been playing with flores's defense for what 30 years it feels like i i honestly i feel like we've seen him for a hundred years playing in this defense it's similar results every single time but defenses love a DC that's going to send it, I guess, especially if it works like it did obviously in the fourth quarter late as they wore down that Packers offense, I think?
18:23Well, I think D-Butt can speak to this too. As a DB, those guys know if we're bringing pressure, DBs will tell you, say your defense isn't that good and you blitz and you hang these guys out to dry. Stop calling those blitzes. We need to play cover three or ten for two or something because we're not getting home with four. If you bring pressure and we know, say we're bringing six and tell Hey, D-butt, you've got to cover about a second and a half here because we're getting there. I promise you, someone's getting there. We're going to disrupt this. You're going to have interception opportunities.
18:50And I think when you have success like this as a defense and you can go in the film room today and show the guys, hey, remember when we walked through this blitz on Wednesday? This is how it worked. Look how it worked on Sunday multiple times. This is how I set this blitz up. This is how I set that thing up. For D-butt, I know as a guy in the secondary, not only are you coming off the edge, you're blitzing a little bit when you're playing nickelback, but how do you feel when you're a DB safety corner and you know that these blitzers are getting home consistently.
19:13Adam Schefter:I love it, and he mentioned it with Van Geenke. He's been in the defense for a while. It's a lot of guys who have played a ton of downs in that Flores defense. So knowing kind of like where your weak points are in the defense, in the scheme, like, hey, we can get hit here, but that's okay as long as we don't get hit in these spots. And if somebody makes a catch, you just make a tackle. But when you're blitzing 78 % of the time, the chances that you're creating those havoc plays go up tremendously. So, yeah, I would love it as a defender. Obviously, if it's working, if you have the talent, which they do, and at some point that pressure is going to get to him.
19:42Adam Schefter:What I love about it too is you don't always have to get the quarterback on the ground. Sometimes it's like the phantom pressure. You start seeing ghosts or you think you've got something here, you throw it into a drop and you throw a pick. So I think it was awesome what they do on defense. I love watching it as a fan for sure. You can get God deep though, right? I mean, yeah. You got a guy like Christian Watson out there. If you don't tackle him, he can go 80 on you. So, yeah, you have to be aware of those weapons, but that's part of it. You know, you can't play scared in that defense. and as it goes on, once you kind of get the flavor of the week, as they say with the offenses or the third downs or the red area, then you kind of get more and more confident.
20:17Adam Schefter:And that's when players are kind of like, hey, let's run this one. Let's run this one. You start having those conversations on the sideline. But I love watching it. Man, so Flores is kind of like a Carson Wentz.
20:27Pat McAfee:Yeah. Yeah. No, Flores. Multiple times Super Bowl champ. It shows Carl Wentz. Carson's got a Super Bowl ring, too. Let's not get it twisted out here. Okay. And he's potential. He was finals for MVP. People forget about that. That was about a dog year ago. Right. Every year is like seven years. Yeah. I think that's about what that was. But nonetheless, still has it. He's a electrifying guy on offense. Flores electrifying defense. Oh, yeah. Vikings might be must watch this year. They get a huge win over Matt LaFleur in Green Bay. Let's go to the other LaFleur, the tale of two LaFleurs. Not just one LaFleur.
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21:05Pat McAfee:This is multiple Flyers. Let's go to Arizona. Are we worried about the Chargers? Hey, what the hell happened? What's going on here? Obviously, they lose the center. Jim Harbaugh, distraught on the show. I've never seen a coach like that. I've never experienced that. It's always next man up. Next man up, let's do that. But here's Coach Harbaugh, literally the day after they find out they lose center. Got my dauber down a little bit today.
21:30Adam Schefter:We had an injury yesterday at practice, And it just takes the wind out of your sails. You've got to sleep it off. You know, one night wasn't enough. But the trajectory of the team is outstanding. Yeah, you know, you get a player like Tyler Biotic, who has just been so dialed in, so invested in the team. and you know to see really was a play that was probably a one in ten thousand type of play where
22:09Pat McAfee:he was bummed out oh the artist goes down Jim Horbo says his daughter's down that led to an entire conversation what the hell does that mean you know we don't even know we've never heard that saying before but he was bummed out was that the issue they just been so bummed out over there because the offense bummed me out I didn't like what I saw McDaniels with Justin Herbert we've and video is all offseason of like hey stuff's about to happen with the football on the offensive side of the field that you've never seen before okay this is about to be an electrifying jim harbaugh's teams always going to be good just like john harbaugh's teams always going to be good is how we feel this entire thing then the arizona cardinals they're in the middle of a contract dispute with jacoby brissette they're going to end up paying him 17 million dollars everybody's going to laugh in their faces.
22:55Pat McAfee:They come out, smack the Chargers around. Jacoby Brissett throws for 277. They're blocking punts. They're doing all the little things. And it's like, wait a second. Have we been completely wrong about a lot of stuff just because how we naturally respond to stuff? But the Cardinals might not be ass. And the Chargers, are they not going to be the spectacle that we're expecting? Because that's going to bum me out, AJ, if they are not what I thought they were going to be coming into the season because i had really high hopes especially because justin herbert's dating jen beer yeah we got celebrities coming together we got big things happening this is going to be good for ball la was going to have an incredible offence
23:38Pat McAfee:jenny with the beers miss beer what was with jen jenny beer i think it's madison let's get this name right here, right? Madison Beer, I'm so sorry. Madison Beer, that is 100 % on me. Madison. Jenny from the Beer? Well. Don't be fooled, but I'm saying I got it. She was practicing making more than 14 points, I'm guessing, though, wasn't she? Yeah, and so were the camera people that were like, hey, when Miss Beer here loses it for Justin Herbert, let's showcase that she knows ball, by the way. There was a couple reactions that she was watching, seeing if something happened, looked back to see how Herbert was, then she celebrated.
24:12Pat McAfee:I'm like, okay. Seemingly knows Ball a bit. Celebrity relationship. We've already seen what that does for Ball. Yeah. Yeah, sure. Yeah, sure. What do you mean? It's really cute and stuff, but the Chargers suck, and people are sick of the gimmick. People are sick of the gimmick, and I get that the daubers down on Biotis and stuff, when they go up there in the press game, post-game, press conference, and they're just saying, uh, and um, and uh, and um, people are sick of that one. Two, they're sick of coming into every single season like, this is our year. We're going to do it this year. We're finally going to be the L.A.
24:52Chargers that take over L.A. That was embarrassing. That was brutal. But, I mean, I'm kind of all in on the air. The way Trey McBride, and I think it was Wingard as well, after the game as the clock's running out, going over to the floor and, like, hugging them and embracing them and how that team has kind of bought into the, hey, everyone thinks we're going to suck. We had a guy on who works for the Cardinals, who are a big reporter for the Cardinals. He said we'd be lucky. Wine you fuss. Yeah. He said we'd be lucky if we stole two games in the first 11 weeks. And for them to come out and beat the Chargers on the road, I think they're a 10-point dog.
25:30That is remarkable. I am all in on the Cardinals. Now, there's a chance they lose the next eight games. But today, on this day, on September 14th, these Cardinals are a problem, and I can't wait to watch them.
25:43Pat McAfee:On this September 14th, happy birthday, Sally McAfee. Happy birthday, Sally. Happy birthday, Sally. But you're right. On September 14th, 2026, and maybe for the foreseeable future, maybe this is what Michael Ford's teams are. You know? Maybe this guy's a good coach. Yeah. It's a team. Maybe it is a – Fooled by the hair. Yeah, and legit, the hair really messed us up. You know, because Matt LaFleur has the bras. That's right. The eyebrows. And obviously, we've seen him have success. His record as a head coach is ridiculous. Okay, so there's going to be people, potentially Packers fans, at some point that are going to want LaFleur the hell out of time.
26:24Pat McAfee:He's had a lot of wins. Maybe he'll be able to figure it out. But we don't know what this Mike LaFleur guy is, which leads to, hey, there was a lot of rookie head coaches that had some success, D. D-Buck, what is it, four and two? Four and two rookie head coaches. Is that the final stat we heard, D-Buck?
26:37Adam Schefter:I believe so. And for these guys to get a win in their debuts as head coaches, very, very tough. You talk about it's still in the culture. You know, some team, Jesse Menton, you're taking a veteran quarterback, a pretty veteran team, getting a win. LaFleur, a young team, veteran quarterback, you're getting a win. Then you got Coop's over there in Vegas. They got a win over my Dolphins. My Dolphins for now. And then Joe Brady, obviously you're getting the MVP. Josh Allen, everybody's who's saying that's the best quarterback in the league. You start the season off against kind of the boogeyman in that Houston Texans defense to get a win.
27:08Adam Schefter:So, yeah, that's four out of their debut to get a win, four and two. Todd Monkett, obviously, ugly over there and very ugly in Miami as well.
27:16Pat McAfee:Yeah, that's the bronze, I think. Halfley, obviously, run into a stubborn Raiders team, which I like, by the way. And Max, Mad Maxman.
27:27Adam Schefter:Mendoza or Crosby? Yeah, which one? Be specific.
27:30Pat McAfee:I assume Mendoza had an incredible game day as well. I haven't seen it yet, but I'm assuming he crushed it. Max Crosby, there's a reason this guy is who he is. Crazy that the Ravens didn't want him. But you just mentioned, we'll get to that in a little bit. You just mentioned Josh Allen and Joe Brady. Love that Joe Brady's a full Florida boy. Shirt off, we got chain on, we're celebrating on the side. What a rally by them. And that leads to top five, top five, top five, number two headline. Josh Allen is still Josh Allen. I mean, watching him take over that game and play down in Houston, which we all have respect for the Houston defense, right?
28:08Pat McAfee:Oh, yeah. Everybody that has eyes and watches ball has respect for the Houston Texans defense. Obviously, that is how they have proven to be an absolute wonder. In the Buffalo Bills defense, obviously, 31 points is a lot of points. But Josh Allen in week one, doing shit that we normally see him do in like week 13, week 14 in the snow where he just dominates has a thousand touchdowns does it all is running is scrambling is jumping is throwing is dicing and slicing and then winning against the houston texans down there which he hasn't been able to do kind of getting a monkey maybe off of his back whenever he talks about nrg or alliance stadium in houston it was just special to watch and i think joe brady getting a big time win is great and i think them hiring a guy that josh allen is friends with and likes is a good thing, especially if it's Josh Allen.
28:57Pat McAfee:Now, not every coach or not every player, I'm sorry, should be able to like be a part of the hiring process of a head coach. I think their opinion should certainly be heard, but the decision should be made by somebody else. For Josh Allen with how unique of a talent he is, him being in the interview process and standing by Joe Brady, and then Joe Brady obviously having the entire locker room the way that he does, it feels like they've made the right decision just if you go off a result oriented business with what they did to Houston versus what they've done to Houston in the past or with Houston in the past.
29:28Pat McAfee:This dude's an alien, bro. Gotta win a Super Bowl, right? Nobody cares until you win a Super Bowl. Nobody cares until you win a Super Bowl, but this dude is outrageous. I think he has 81 touchdowns, rushing touchdowns. Is that what it is? 81 rushing touchdowns, I think. He moves into top 20 all-time in rushing touchdowns, not for quarterbacks, for running backs as well. I mean, he's special and we're very lucky to watch it. Got to win a Super Bowl though, AJ. That's all anybody cares. What a catch by Josh Palmer there. Have to, right? It was awesome watching Josh talk about this play after the game, saying we've never repped this.
30:00He's never thrown the ball there in practice to where it was. But he makes the read, makes the decision in game, biggest part of the game to do it. To put up 36 on this Texans defense is pretty awesome. I mean, this Texans defense, they're going to have a very good year, I believe. Obviously, CJ Stroud played well too. I know we had worries about him coming into this game just from footage of him walking into training camp. I know you guys have had all kinds of issues with him. But he looked all right. Whoa, whoa, whoa. We did have issues. You are the internet tone. You basically speak for the internet.
30:28You saw me. Don't put my name on that one. I did see the video. It was a bit concerning. But, yeah, I was glad to see CJ step out here and slang it a little bit. And I think both these teams are going to be solid. But the Bills and Josh Allen, yeah, there's a reason I picked them to win the Super Bowl last year. It obviously didn't hit. But I've always been high on the Bills.
30:43Pat McAfee:Now, on that note about the big-time win, the throw to Josh Palmer that he hadn't done, you know, ever in practice. D-butt, what do we do? What do we do? Catch the ball. Catch the ones they throw you. Feels like the football gods always do this. If you have a game-winning pick opportunity in your lap and you give it up, you're losing immediately, D-butt. What the hell happened out here?
31:03Adam Schefter:I'm sure AJ's been a part of these. I'm sure Conman remembers the 17-0 Patriots who had a chance to go undefeated, win the Super Bowl, dropped a couple interceptions. It always comes back to bite you in the ass. And this was kind of a flashback to Josh Allen three or four years ago, He would always make kind of that goofball, terrible throw, terrible decision, which he did here at Kamari Lassiter. One of the best corners in the league just drops like a punt. And then for him to come back in the next play and throw an absolute strike to Josh Palmer to get the touchdown, that's what you got to have.
31:30Adam Schefter:That's the mentality you have to have as a quarterback, as a quarterback. You got to have that short-term memory. Just go back there, drop an absolute seed to win the game. I mean, unbelievable play by Josh Allen. A lot of pressure in Buffalo. Anytime you have an MVP caliber quarterback and you're coming in as the new head coach, It's going to be pressure there. And even more pressure, I would say, on Brandon Bean up in the general manager when you get rid of Sean McDermott and all the success he had as a head coach. You obviously made a decision as an ownership group. We're going with Brandon Bean and his vision going forward.
31:58Adam Schefter:So, yeah, when you've got a talent like Josh Allen under center, the pressure is on to win the Super Bowl from day one.
32:04Pat McAfee:I think their communications guy, Boyko, is under a lot of pressure too. Definitely. From my understanding. So, you know, a lot of heat whenever you're at the top of the mountain or supposed to be at the top of the mountain. and we can't wait to watch this version of the Buffalo Bills this year. And let's talk about the top of the mountain and needing to win a Super Bowl. And I'll tell you, these eyes watch a team that could win a Super Bowl. Jesse Minters, Baltimore Ravens, okay, with Lamar Jackson running 77 % motion. Okay, 77 % of the time. It's the second most, I think, or most, whatever. Lamar Jackson under center, three different motions with eight seconds left on a play clock.
32:44Pat McAfee:You had the Colts completely. Had no idea what was going on. And then obviously Lamar goes crazy. Derrick Henry goes absurd. Everything, like Zay Flowers, he might have hurt his hamstring because he was too fucking open. I mean, watching this Ravens team was absurd yesterday. And it wasn't until I walked into the stadium and I saw Lamar Jackson on the field that really hit me. Like, man, I get to watch Lamar Jackson play football today. Like, that's crazy that I get to be here. And he did. Yeah. This guy might have had the greatest game he's ever had. Their entire offense looked very much in sync.
33:19Pat McAfee:Just everything looked easy. And then the defense, Jesse Mentor, we assume he's going to have an incredible defense. And I assume they're going to do great. They smothered the Colts. They pounded the Colts. And with these eyes, I said, they might be the greatest team in NFL history. We don't know that. We have no idea what is possible. But they had an MVP type player in Lamar Jackson. and didn't get a deal done, which everybody was talking about, which is interesting for Lamar's motivation and what is he thinking about long-term, new coach, new operation. But he was at everything this spring. He was at every workout.
33:50Pat McAfee:He was all in on learning everything about everything. And it was very obvious, D-Budd. They looked outrageous. And then Derek Henry, how is he still doing it? We watched him in high school, what, in 1999? He was doing this to people in high school. D-Budd, I feel like I might be overreacting a little bit. This Ravens team looked flawless. Kicker hit a 58-yard field goal. Punter bombed a couple. He's out of Michigan State. I mean, the team looked unbelievable yesterday. Is that the Colts? Is that the Ravens? I'm choosing to believe. Long season. Colts are still okay. Ravens might be greatest team in NFL history.
34:24Pat McAfee:Look out, 72 Dolphins, D. Bud.
34:26Adam Schefter:Yeah, you couldn't ask for a better start if you're Jesse Mentor. You talk about Zay Flowers, that extension he got. Raised some eyebrows out in the, I guess, football community, especially amongst the casuals. Like, why is Zay Flowers getting his money? He showed you pretty soon why, pretty early on in this game. He looked like prime Jerry Rice early in this game before he went out with the hammy. Just unbelievable. Watching Lamar, just like you, I had the conversation, I was thinking with Con, man, when we got to the game as well. You start seeing those Lamar Jackson jerseys on the street. You see him, it's like, okay, we do get to watch eight live and in action.
34:55Adam Schefter:And boots on the ground, you get a different appreciation for him, just his whole operation, just his comfort level. And this is a brand-new offense with Declan Doyle calling the plays now. He was operating from the pocket. There were times where I was standing up, hands in air, celebrating the sack that we had, and then Lamar scooting 25 yards down the field. And I think Logan Ryan said it on the call. I heard a clip after. Like, when you think about Derrick Henry and Lamar Jackson, it's almost like Kobe and Shaq. When they are gone, when they get it rolling, it can get unstoppable. So when you have that three-headed monster, when Zay Flowers is healthy, Lamar, Zay, and Derrick Henry, who just seems to keep getting bigger, faster, stronger as the year's gone, yes, they are a force to be reckoned with.
35:35Adam Schefter:It's the reason why I think they're tied for the highest win total coming into this year, even with a new head coach. I'm excited about Lamar this year. He looks like he's well off to an MVP caliber season. It seems like every year he's in that conversation, just same as Josh Allen. The pressure is there with these new head coaches to go and win and go and win now.
35:54Pat McAfee:Yeah, and I'll tell you, the Ravens certainly did win right now and then again right after that and then again right after that. I mean, I think there was a couple drops by a couple wide receivers, like maybe Mark Andrews dropped one, which we were all, like, dumbfounded by. But it was virtually a perfect performance from Lamar Jackson. And he's clearly faster than everybody whenever he wants to be. But he just strolls, man. He's just casual, bro. Just in between plays, just kind of walking casual in complete control. Huddle is just in command. Everybody obviously knows what's happening. He's under center, completely comfortable down there, no problem at all.
36:31Pat McAfee:It's like this guy, I know obviously a lot of people still to this day, even though it's QBR and passer rating are like up in the 90s and he's considered one of the greatest throwers. Best all time. All over the place. Yeah, so a lot of people just think Lamar Jackson's an athlete or whatever, Lamar Jackson's an athlete. Some people still think that, I guess, at this point. It's like I've never seen a more polished-looking quarterback. He – that was outrageous yesterday. I mean, it was an absolute ass long season. Yep. Long season. Okay? Colts are going to be better than any look yesterday. Ravens are just the best game of all time, potentially.
37:06Pat McAfee:Joining us now, maybe give us a little bit more info, maybe on Zay Flowers and what we're expecting. We looked over to the sideline while we were at the game, saw no helmet, no gloves. We just thought maybe he said 150 yards, cup top. I'm out of here. I'm done. I'm just going to chill. We're doing load management for next week. Let's keep me healthy. I just got paid. We need me, obviously. Joining us now is a senior NFL insider for ESPN and legend out of Michigan. It might not be dead just yet. Ladies and gentlemen, Adam Schefter. Yay, Shefty! How you doing, Shefty? Happy Monday, everybody. How we doing?
37:36Pat McAfee:Happy overreaction Monday to you as well. It is a glorious day. So many things to think about. Let's talk about what we were just chatting about there. The Ravens might be the greatest team in the history of the NFL. We're not 100 % sure. But we do know Zay Flowers left that game early because of a hamstring. Do we have any updates on any of that? And what time should we expect the updates for most of these injuries, Shefty? Well, they come in throughout the course of the day and week, and obviously every injury is different. But I would say that with a hamstring, you miss a little bit of time.
38:01It doesn't sound overly serious. But again, to think that he'd be out there this week would probably be unrealistic. Jacoby Lane fractured his wrist. That's going to be a problem for the Baltimore Ravens as well. And, you know, you're talking about how impressive they were. Just think about the fact that they get Jesse Minter, which they're hoping upgrades the defense. They have Declan Doyle, who the Bears wanted to keep under Ben Johnson, who they hired as their offensive coordinator. And you saw what Declan Doyle did. and as D-Bot was pointing out, they paid Zay Flowers$35 million a year and people are like, why are they doing that?
38:33Well, I think yesterday answered that question. They're not dumb, these teams. They know what they have and they knew what they had in Zay and they were getting that deal done as soon as they could because they believe in his skills. Now, it was unfortunate that he went out with a hamstring injury, but this team is clicking on all cylinders. And I'll also say this, you brought up Max Crosby, but nobody's talking about Trey Hendrickson And in the two joint practices they had this summer, I was told that he was unblockable then. He was almost unblockable yesterday. And I think he's brought a lot of fire and light to that Ravens defense.
39:07Pat McAfee:Yeah, shout to Trey Hendrickson. Obviously, we're big fans of his. Hopefully, the Ravens are able to go on a run for him, especially with, you know, the interesting ending alongside the Cincinnati Bengals, who would then bring in Sexy Dexy to revamp their defensive line, which seemingly helped out immensely. Let's talk about a defensive line that looks nothing like what we thought it was going to look like. Aaron Donald, nah, he's not going to play. And now all of a sudden, A.J. has a question for you about another high-price, high-talked-about off-season subject. A.J., go ahead. Yeah, Sheffy, were you caught off guard at all about this, Miles Garrett getting this arthroscopic surgery on his knee?
39:41Is this something that had been lingering throughout? Obviously, we know he missed most of camp, but did you think that the surgery was going to happen, and how long do you expect him out? well I think that it had been an issue they were managing it all during camp I thought it was peculiar that he went three straight weeks without practicing and all of a sudden the week at the opener I'm asking around like is he playing yeah he's playing he's playing okay obviously he did not feel right he was not a factor in that opening game and clearly was bothering him to the point where they made the decision this weekend to have the surgery now he's having the surgery today and they're waiting to see how it goes before they update it.
40:19But it sounds like it's going to be a minimum of a month. It sounds like it'll land them on IR. And you're certainly not going to rush Miles Garrett back. You want to make sure that he's healthy and right before you're bringing him back. So minimum four weeks, potentially longer, depending on how the surgery and the recovery go. Can't say that just yet. But yeah, I mean, that's a blow. Like, it's funny how this changes. You think about the Monday night matchup next week. It's the Giants and the Rams. And people were talking about the Giants. If they can't find a way to beat Dallas, now they're going to L.A.
40:52And now they can start 0-2 under John Harbaugh. Well, hold on. What did Lee Corso say? Not so fast, my friends, right? The Giants go out and win. Giants now go into L.A. Rams don't have Miles Garrett. My guess is Aaron Donald will be back and make his debut next Monday night, minus Miles Garrett. and all of a sudden it looks like a game the Giants will have a chance to win. Not telling you they will win, but the Giants look like they're playing tough football. So the Rams, it's a rough start. You lose a game, you lose Myles Garrett. That's not exactly the start that people were envisioning for a team that some people were thinking could go unbeaten this year.
41:30Pat McAfee:Yeah, me. Yeah, I was wondering how people could get a first down. I guess we'll have to wait for the Avengers of a defensive line until at least week four, Aaron Donald and Myles Garrett together. I thought we were getting that down under. Would have been awesome to watch. And I think it would have been good for the Rams, who obviously started a little bit lackluster to kick this entire thing off. There's a storyline developing in Pittsburgh. One, they're 1-0 under Mike McCarthy. On the defensive side, though, is there still moves to be made? Tone has a question for you, Shefty. Yeah, Shefty, obviously, officially on Sunday, Joey Porter Jr.
42:01was on the inactive list. He did not play in the game on Sunday with a quote-unquote back issue. I believe Coach McCarthy also said it was kind of part of his ramp up. You said in that tweet there it could be a trade possibility still. What's the latest developing in that situation? Well, before I answer, were you surprised that he wasn't going to play to him? A little bit, yeah. Yeah. I think a lot of people were, and I think that, honestly, the biggest thing is the conditioning factor. He hadn't practiced all summer. It's tough to go out and play the opener at that spot when you haven't practiced at all all summer long.
42:38And so I think that was a part of it. He's had the back issue all summer long. He hasn't practiced. They want to be smart. And I'm sure, let's be honest, that he wants to be really smart about it, being that he doesn't have the deal that he wants. And it's a tricky spot because we've seen a number of cornerbacks this offseason get paid north of$30 million. Denzel Ward did. Christian Gonzalez did, Devin Witherspoon did, and Joey Porter wants to be paid. On the other hand, I think the Pittsburgh Steelers say, great player, we think there's a certain value for you, but I don't know that you're worth more than Patrick Sertan at a number like$24 million.
43:20Right? So it leaves the two sides in a difficult spot where they're trying to find a common ground and haven't come close to doing it yet, and he's not playing. And so the Steelers have been open to listening to offers so far for what they would want back. There has not been a lot of trade interest. I don't know what would spur that right now. Usually, as we see, these things get done when they have to. The trade deadline would be November 10th. Pittsburgh's winning, too. You're not going to want to unload good players. He's not happy with the situation. It's evolving. Let's see where it goes.
43:56It's still early.
43:57Pat McAfee:Okay, let's talk about evolving. The Browns is still the Browns, it appears. D-Bot has a question about the drama of the offseason that has kind of lingered into the regular season.
44:05Adam Schefter:Yeah, that was one of the quarterback competitions we all kept our eyes on, and it didn't start well for Todd Monk and Deshaun Watson in Cleveland yesterday. Are you hearing any rumblings about a potential quarterback change in Cleveland already? Well, first of all, today's Deshaun Watson's 31st birthday. Yeah, happy birthday. Happy birthday. Happy birthday. 31. Wow.
44:24Pat McAfee:31 today. A nice little gift for yourself would have been a successful Monday. Maybe that's what they're saying, but we're saying congrats on another trip around his son. Now, on that note. Yep, and that was his first NFL start in 693 days. And the whole team looked terrible. And so I think what the team was thinking going into this was they wanted, they hoped, that Deshaun was going to be able to start the first week at Jacksonville, play well, start the next week at Tampa, on the road again, play well, and ride them until they felt like they needed a change. I think that was the initial plan to go with a veteran on the road in Florida.
45:06But they looked so poor yesterday, everybody did, that after the game, they asked Todd Monken about it. He was noncommittal on anything or anybody. He may go back and look at the table and say, you know what, let's go with Shador in Tampa next week. Or he may just say, let's ride it out another week. but if they were to stick with them I don't know if they will I think it's fair to say the clock is running right now and if they were to lose again it's hard to imagine that you're going to bring Deshaun Watson back for a home opener in front of fans that have already booed him if you were 0-2 I don't know if they'll stick with them this week they may make a change we'll see that's something they're going to go over but I can't imagine that by the time they get home let me look at the schedule here In the third week of the season, the Cleveland Browns play Carolina at home, then Pittsburgh at home.
45:57And so, yeah, I don't know that Deshaun Watson's going to make it to there unless he starts playing considerably better.
46:04Pat McAfee:Now, there's a chance the Jacksonville Jaguars are who Liam Cohen says they are. You know, and maybe just made the Cleveland Browns look like, you know, a dump in a pants. It literally crossed the board down there. But Trevor Lawrence looked unbelievable, okay? and obviously their defense was hunting. I mean, Deshaun got hit a bunch. It is maybe a different time down in Duval, too, so let's not give up all hope on Todd Munkin being a good head coach. But I'm telling you, people are already saying Todd Munkin's probably going to end up coaching somewhere else in a year or two. I don't like that that's happening, but that's seemingly Cleveland Browns' world in a nutshell.
46:38Pat McAfee:We have a question now about another nutshell, and this nutshell is maybe the greatest nutshell that we've seen in football. there was a quarterback battle all offseason in minnesota collar jj collar jj collar jj collar jj collar throws a pick collar gets a concussion we know he's a concussion protocol we'll see how it goes but ty has a question about the experience that the packers got to ride alongside the minnesota vikings fans as well yeah shefty considering that you know when you go in the concussion protocol these guys miss anywhere from you know two to five weeks now what are the odds that Carson Wentz kind of takes the reins in Minnesota and that Carson Wentz experience rolls on for the next several weeks, maybe even the entire season.
47:20Before I answer that, I've got a question for you. How do you feel about the Packers losing six straight games now? Yeah, dreadful. Absolutely dreadful. I don't say that as a taunt. That's not how I operate. I'm glad you say it. Yeah, you did. Yeah, you did. I can't believe a team that good. Are they? That's what we say. Kind of Groundhog's Day around here. That's not what we're talking about. I want to know if Carson Wentz is going to win the NFC North this year as the quarterback of the Minnesota Vikings. Well, I'll say this. The Vikings players were saying that Kyler Murray was in good spirits after the game.
48:07Usually a player that's in the fencing posture who's gone through brain trauma is not playing the next week. So I wouldn't think that Kyler's going to play. So it's another week of Carson. And I would guess you find yourself in one of those scenarios where if Carson plays well again this week, look, they're playing the Bears, the high-flying Bears who are on pace here to shatter scoring records. And if Carson Wentz is in a shootout with them and they find a way to win the game and he's playing well you're going to keep playing him the next week and so you'll keep rotting there there's a reason they wanted him back there in Minnesota they had JJ they were signing Kyler and they still wanted Wentz and they wanted him because they know what he's capable of they wanted his veteran presence they obviously had questions about the quarterback position in general they didn't know how Kyler and JJ were going to work out so yeah I think as long as he's playing well and they're winning he'll keep playing that's the way it's going to be now I think when Kyler is healthy and ready whether that's two weeks three weeks whatever it may be I think they'll probably at some point in time go back to him but it's Carson's turn right now to ride it out see how he can play and yesterday pretty amazing right he comes in as a backup he's the first backup quarterback to enter a game and throw three touchdowns no interceptions since the very first game in Vikings franchise history when Fran Tarkington did it.
49:34No other backup quarterback ever had done that in an opening game across the NFL, and the only time it ever happened was with Fran Tarkington.
49:42Pat McAfee:Fran? Pretty good name to be alongside, obviously, as Carson Wentz becomes second reserve. Shout out to Hembo using the word reserve instead of backup quarterback, which we respect as if it was still 1950 when that happened for Fran Tarkington. Okay, let's go back in time. Obviously, we had a huge NFL Sunday slate. We'll talk about college here in a little bit. But there was obviously midweek games last week that kicked off the entire week one, especially up there in Seattle as we saw a quarterback that was a finalist for the MVP last year have his worst quarter ever. Connor has a question about what's going on with the Patriots.
50:17Yeah, Shefty, another similar injury to Myles Garrett, the big acquisition for New England A.J. Brown. He left the game, had an ankle injury, and now he is officially on IR. Someone had to break that news to Josh McDaniels on the radio this weekend to him. But what is the situation with AJ? Is it going to be the full four weeks? Is it going to be six weeks? Is there any sort of thought of when he's going to be back from this injury? Well, it's going to be a minimum of four weeks. It definitely could be six weeks. That is the range that I was told it would be four to six weeks on the high ankle sprain, which would be consistent with that particular injury.
50:52He doesn't need surgery, so that's encouraging. But he was grabbing that on Thursday night, Wednesday night. You knew right away it was going to be something. And he's going to miss some time now. And that's a blow. When he went out of that game, it wasn't like he was lighting it up while he was in there, but it did seem to change. And Romeo Dobbs didn't make the plays that he needed to in that particular matchup. He's going to need to make those plays here going forward. And they had a pretty deep wide receiving room, So it seemed. And those other guys have to step out because it's going to be four to six weeks.
51:24Pat McAfee:Okay. Four to six weeks for AJ Brown. That's obviously a third of the season nowadays with 17 games. We appreciate the hell out of you, Shefty. Anything we miss coming out of week one, NFL Sunday, before tonight's Monday night football, Patrick Mahomes returns here at home as a two and a half point favorite against the Denver Broncos. Well, I think obviously, Burt Joy Porter, we didn't bring up John Harbaugh at all. and the effect that he had on the Giants, that's interesting. Well, you try to. It sounds like you've got a pretty good tie in there, and I respect and appreciate that. Let's hit that a little bit more because they were a team that a lot of people had high hopes for.
52:00Pat McAfee:Now, obviously, Giants fans were believers in Jackson Dart. I think that was a great way to start this game, by the way, because Jackson Dart takes a hit, doesn't end up in a blue tent. The boys fight for him. John Harbaugh, everything he likes is toughness. He loves that his boys had to fight. And then every time the Dallas Cowboys were maybe mounting a comeback, the Giants would answer. Jackson Dart proved time and time again that he has an answer. And then, likely, what an offensive weapon. Ricard is on in every single play. And Scadaboo is back to hitting backflips after scoring touchdowns and maybe taking out a pile on right there.
52:30Pat McAfee:Roll his ankle again. Don't do that. So, Shefty, your thoughts on Harbaugh and the Giants, as it sounds like maybe you have a little sauce that we don't have or haven't covered yet? Well, a few things. You see Isaiah likely catch that pass. When likely played in Baltimore, more, he was a guy that Lamar Jackson loved and believed in. And if it weren't for all those weapons that they had there, Derek Henry Running, Mark Andrews, Zay Flowers, likely would have been used more. And I think they were ready to have him blossom last year. He got hurt early in the year. And when John Harbaugh gets the Giants job, one of the priorities that he puts out there is to go get Isaiah Likely.
53:08And you see what he does last night against the Cowboys. He tortures them. And so that was a John Harbaugh move. Loved him. They knew exactly what they were getting. A big time tight end. Ask Lamar Jackson how he feels about Isaiah Likely. And John Harbaugh last night with Malik Neighbors. Malik Neighbors on Saturday changed the plans and had his family not come to the game. He thought he wasn't going to play. Basically, they weren't going to come because he didn't want to disappoint them, have them there. They don't come to the game. He's kind of just testing out the knee pregame. John Harbaugh goes and tackles him.
53:44And everyone's like, who's tackling Malik Neighbors? They had no idea what was going on there. And they look up. It's Coach Harbaugh gets up. Neighbors are like, well, I got tackled. Okay, so I'm good to go in the stadium where I tore my knee. And that was the turning point, I think, where he decided a couple hours before he went to go play the game.
54:02Pat McAfee:So hold on. Did we – where did he put his head? Was it heads-up football or when John Harbaugh was playing football? That's only Don maybe. Now, this is the disappointing news for Giants fans. He led with the crown of his helmet, and he could be suspended for the next game on Monday night. We'll see. That's the ultimate question. Don't be doing our shit, Jeff. We're allowed to make that stuff up. You say people think it's actually real. There's about to be a update that John Harbaugh led with the crown of his helmet while tackling his number one wide receiver, Malik Nabors. Can you tell us a little bit more about it?
54:34Pat McAfee:Did you get more information? Did he, like, grab him and take him down? Did he actually blindside him? Like, what was the tackle that happened? Because I'm trying to beat him. Dope right in his knee.
54:42Adam Schefter:Horse collar. I didn't see it, but the players, Jackson Dart was talking about after the game, the players, they were surprised. They're like, who brought down Leak? We didn't even know. And they looked down, they'd see it's the coach. So I just think he wanted to restore the confidence that Malik Nabors was questioning and wondering because it was very much up in the air that he was going to play. And I think he thought he thought Saturday he wasn't playing.
55:08Pat McAfee:Magic tears his knee again. John Harbaugh stumbles accidentally like everything he thought he was going to do. He trips and falls. He might have been the first coach to be fired before his first game ever. Like that would have been like you take down your you're fired. Yeah. He doesn't even coach a game. they could have fired him before the game. That would have been unbelievable. We're happy that wasn't the case. Watching Malik neighbors get a couple big-time passes last night on Sunday Night Football was special to see his recovery. Jackson Dart looks outrageous. The defense is great. And I haven't lost faith in the Cowboys either.
55:35Pat McAfee:I think I've just built how much I love Harbaugh's Giants. I guess it makes sense why the Giants fans were trying to spin the yarn that this could be their year. Congrats to you, Bruce. And Shefty, we'll see you later on Monday Night Countdown, pal. Hey, good luck on your Monday Night Countdown debut. Are you nervous, Pat? Well, I'm a part of the NFL media now. So it is an honor of a lifetime. I'm very thankful. Such a company guy, NFL media. Such a company guy you are. Well, you know, we've been to a couple NFL events, and because this particular show is not NFL media, we do not have access to, you know, certain stuff.
56:09Pat McAfee:So this has come up in the past. But it's an honor to be asked. It's an honor to have the opportunity. And, yeah, I mean, if you were to go back and tell a little kid me in Pittsburgh that I was going to be a part of Monday Night Football's coverage, I would have shit my pants just like I'm doing now so I'm very thankful. I'll see you then, Schefter. We got a hard out. Goodbye. That's Adam Schefter, ladies. All right, we're back on the other side with so much more to talk about. Like, I love Kelly Moe. I like the lion storylines in abundance. We'll see you then.
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57:32Pat McAfee:Football! It is the greatest of all time and obviously NFL Week 1 Sunday Slate delivered explosives and highlights across the board. And tonight we wrap up Week 1 of the NFL season right here at Arrowhead as the Chiefs host the Denver Broncos as two and a half point favorites. Patrick Mahomes comes back early from injury. Travis Kelsey, now a married man. Wow. Oh yeah. Will that ring on his finger weigh him down? or with that ring on his finger maybe propel him to the best comeback revenge redemption season for this chiefs team who had an ass year last year and the denver broncos the only thing that was asked about their year last year was how bo nicks broke his leg with four plays left to get to the afc championship game we all remember sean payton coming back out dressed like a lumberjack say our quarterbacks not gonna play next week so he probably you just saw him he just did an interview we just won we're all happy he broke his leg so yeah now the patriots not only do they have the easiest regular season of all time now they potentially have the easiest amc championship game of all time and that's how it's going to be a great defense bo nicks with another year of experience healthy leg what would the denver broncos look like as underdogs in their first game of the season here against kansas city chiefs fun fact patrick mahomes has never lost at home against the Denver Broncos.
58:54Pat McAfee:Never. 7-0. Has never, ever lost to the Denver Broncos at home. And if you do recall, in a throwaway game, his rookie season, week 17, he came in because Alex Smith and the Kansas City Chiefs had already secured their spot in the playoffs. So it was, you know, last game of the season before the playoff run. Alex Smith is the quarterback. Let's put Patrick Mahomes in here. He beat the Denver Broncos that game as well. So Patrick Mahomes seemingly does very well against this Denver Broncos team. Will this Sean Payton version of the Broncos be any different here tonight? In the home of the G. Can't wait to feel that.
59:35Pat McAfee:Can't believe I'm lucky enough to be here. Very lucky and thankful to be a part of Monday Night Countdown and also to have all the boys back there at the Thunderdome. AJ Hawk, thank you for traveling to Indianapolis. D-Butt, you look fantastic, pal. What a weekend it was. Toxic Table at Boston Conner and at Ty Schmidt. Good to see you, pal. And then one half of the hammer. Duh! Duh! Duh! That was AP. Duh! Jeez Louise, Tony. Tony jumped the gun. No, Tony jumped the gun. Tony jumped the diving board very early. They're calling it different this year. I feel like I just timed it up perfectly, like TJY, but we'll see.
1:00:12Okay.
1:00:13Pat McAfee:Maybe you got a little bit of a jump on the ball, you'll say. You're seeing it and hearing it better than all of us. Even though if one wrong, all wrong, you know, everybody else basically was right. You were the only one wrong, but that's on all of us, not just on you. We'll do the pushups later for your mistake. That's good team and good accountability. But Tone Diggs, can we talk a little bit about the points, points, points? And can we talk a little bit about what happens with DraftKings this weekend, the best sports book on earth? If you are of age and agree to gamble responsibly, not like an asshole, we'd love you to come join us at DraftKings.
1:00:44Pat McAfee:Because if you gamble like an asshole, it ruins it for all of us. Yeah. Okay? So let's be responsible. let's not think that we're getting rich off of this, but let's try to hit these people. Let's try to hit draft Kings as much as possible. We're getting points, points, points, boost this weekend that hit for college football tonight. We're thinking maybe a little ground and pound, ain't that right town? What's the story of the sports gamblers coming out of week one's NFL Sunday slate. Speaker 2 , we started things off right on, on Thursday with hitting the boost on that one or sorry, Wednesday that was with Patriots and Seahawks hitting a boost on that one then yeah we had a three over boost that hit this weekend in college football um overs were a thing of the weekend uh nine and six to the over in the nfl and you talked about the points points points if we have 43 points tonight we're setting a record uh i believe eight of the top 10 um touchdown scoring prop people tickets that were were on them scored this weekend so it was a great weekend for the gamblers and not so much the books and then yes we have another one tonight i believe I believe it goes live later this afternoon where we have the running backs from tonight, J.K.
1:01:49Dobbins, and then obviously K-9, Kenneth Walker. Two score touchdowns boosted to plus 600. Boy, are we feeling good about ourselves.
1:02:00Pat McAfee:And okay, that'll be live at five, I believe, on DraftKings. Boosted to plus 600. It could be a grind and pound game tonight, which is kind of what we are hoping for and maybe even expecting a little bit. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is a stallion of a man who we're going to see on TV. We know every single day of our lives for the rest of football season. Ladies and gentlemen, Dan or a lot.
1:02:25Pat McAfee:Look how tall he is. I know. Still gross. This can't be what this is. Late puberty guy. Really? All right, Dan. I'm happy that you hit a little bit of a late puberty. Congratulations to you. I was. A lot of kids as well. So obviously everything's worked out for you just fine. Monday Night Football is here. We're doing a ground and pound the rock boost that won't be live until 5 o 'clock on DraftKings. How do you expect this evening to go? Obviously Patrick Mahomes comes back early than expected. Travis Kelsey obviously wanting to go out in a different way. Or maybe he's got three to five years left.
1:03:02Pat McAfee:Still got stone cold Chris Jones on the defensive side. But Bo Nix and Sean Payton only going to get better. What are your thoughts and expectations for this evening? Yeah, I think for Kansas City, I would expect two things to pay attention to that give them a chance versus a really good Denver defense. One, do they go under center more? I know that's been a wave in the NFL over the past year. It felt like I haven't watched every game so far, but I think I've seen like 13 or so. Most I've seen teams put quarterbacks under center in maybe eight years. So will Kansas City do that? Because it's not who they are.
1:03:38I think that'll help this offensive line versus a good front. I think they can create, and the only way is to create explosive plays from the under center, play action, change the launch point for Patrick, a little bit how Buffalo did for Josh Allen versus a good line, defensive line. And then I think, will Andy Reid and Eric Bien-Ami be a very similar version of Kyle Shanahan against the Rams? I think we saw the Rams see nine different screens, nine. Kansas City's always been a screen team. They haven't been as good the past couple years. Offensive line is not good enough against this defensive line to just line up and play.
1:04:14You've got to keep them off balance. And so if they do that, I think they have a shot. Denver's defense is fantastic. Sertan will cover the go-to person off formation. So who's going to be that second and third option to win? And then Kansas City's defense, how well do the rookies play? Peter Woods, Mansoor Delane, R. Mason Thomas. Those are three rookies on that defense that got to play at a high level versus a very complete Denver offense. So I've got concerns how they can protect Patrick Mahomes. That's the starting point.
1:04:48Pat McAfee:Okay, they're favored by two and a half at home. Patrick Mahomes has never lost to Denver at home. What are you expecting for weather here? It's been hot as hell. I feel like I've been sweating for three weeks. It doesn't feel that hot outside right now. It doesn't. It actually feels pretty good. It feels like a perfect day. Yeah, it's okay right now. Chris, how tall are you? This is disgusting. I'm getting Sicilianed. No, he's massive. I'm like six. I think a little north is six, five. Yeah, not like Russell Wilson yesterday on the CBS halftime show. That was tough. Get that guy some lift. Yeah, but his brain is good.
1:05:19Pat McAfee:I thought he did well on TV as well. I was excited to hear all the ball numbers talk ball yesterday across all the networks. It was fantastic to see. Last question from me before the boys have some for you, Dan Orlovsky. Ben Johnson came out this offseason and said, we're going to be a high-scoring offense in history. Yeah, Phil. We're going to be better, buddy. Caleb Williams, and Fox even said this as a Detroit Lions fan, Caleb Williams looked a little bit like Jared Goff yesterday. Yes. Caleb Williams seemingly is more entrenched in the offense that Ben Johnson wants him to run, while also doing all the Caleb Williams shit on top of that.
1:05:52Pat McAfee:Is this the dream that everybody was having whenever we matched these two together? And how much further can we go? Because Caleb Williams was not satisfied at all, seemingly. Yeah. You see Caleb make throws that just guys can't make this throw to commit is insane um it's you can't throw that's good coverage you cannot throw the ball better the one going to his left in the scramble mode this is insane as well the fact that he can throw it that quickly on the move to his left um and then the in timing the in time stuff he had multiple throws where they were kind of creating levels short and high um and he played on time and efficient so like you're seeing that combination of the efficient pass game which we've wanted with the plus plus playmaking.
1:06:35I will say this. So that was awesome. That Carolina Panthers defensive tape is putrid. Whoa. Easy. He's got his notes over here. Blown coverage because of motion. Blown coverage because of motion. Blown coverage because of motion. Blown coverage because of motion. You lost contain. You lost contain. You lost contain. So what is that? Seven or eight clips? That's bad defensive football more than jaw-dropping offensive performance. Are you a Caleb hater?
1:07:03Pat McAfee:I didn't know this. Is that what you are? Because you love Ben Johnson, right? Aren't you Ben Johnson? Oh, and you're not a Ben Johnson guy. No, I'm a Ben Johnson. Because Ben Johnson has beef with who? What tree? LeFleur. LeFleur, yeah. Are you? He's pretty tight with LeFleur. Oh, I forgot about all that. I've never said he'd be negative about Ben Johnson ever. Well, you just said Carolina Panthers defense. Well, they scored 60, so there's got to be some part of that. I don't think Caleb is a C.A. guy. Yeah, that's what it is. Who's Caleb D 'Age? Yeah, he's a different one. Who's his agent? Jobs.
1:07:36I think Jobs. Deep butt, you can't do that. That's just a fact. You can't do that. It's all making sense now. Just thought about that. Come on, he's being rabid at you. Boy. Dano, did the motion catch him off guard? They should have expected that, right? Yeah, I would tell you this, AJ. I don't know what the numbers say right now. I would think that this is probably the worst defensive performance by the league when it comes to handling motion that I've seen in years. We saw it last night in Dallas multiple times, just basic motions, just causing total chaos for a defense. So I don't think Carolina's by themselves.
1:08:14We saw it in the Chargers game as well. So I think the defenses as a whole across the NFL really struggled with adjusting to and handling motion. Chicago was great. The end timing stuff and the plus plus stuff was awesome. Okay. There's a compliment. The Panthers defense was putrid in seven or eight times when it comes to handling certain situations.
1:08:35Pat McAfee:Well, people are going to say the Chicago Bears defense is potentially not great either with how much the Panthers put up. But that was kind of the story of the weekend is how many points. There's a chance for a record to be broke tonight here on this particular field. I'm excited for that. I'm not the only one who has questions for you, 6 '6", Dan Orlowski. Hell yeah. Jeez Louise. D-Bot has a question for you back in the third.
1:08:52Adam Schefter:Yeah, Dan O, you are the authority on quarterbacks, and I have a quarterback that's the CAA guy, Jackson Dart. You just talked about Dallas' defense, and look, they did not play great. Is he a CAA guy? He is. You know him. Oh, don't act like you don't know. You got the Rolodex in that notebook. Hey, Dallas, look. I have a gun right now. Dallas cut guys loose left to right. But Dart was in total control, full control. Matt Nagy, I think, did a great job of having him prepare. Greg Roman, the run game. What was your takeaway with Jackson Dart's performance last night? Yeah, it's the fastest he's played with his eyes since he came into the NFL.
1:09:27We saw some of the quarterback designed, Ron. I'm shocked that Dallas wasn't prepared for that and that situation. We've seen that from Lamar in Baltimore with Greg Roman. Fastest his eyes have played in that young career. The likely matchups that were created. I like that, the fact that they got him onto the perimeter. But I think the recognition was a big deal. Part of that was some of those motions, those indicators. but the matchups that allowed him to kind of think clearly and think quickly, I think were the like really big difference makers. He saw it. Well, the ball came out. Well, they created really good, kind of easier concepts for him to read.
1:10:02He throws the flat route three times in a row. I mean, this is just a totally busted coverage strictly off motion. So I was very impressed with the way that Jackson played, you know, I'm I was a dark guy coming out. And so, you know, I, we know, I think that the way they created some of those matchups by personnel, D-butt, because they would put Likely and Ricard on the field, what we saw in Baltimore, and it seemed that Dallas constantly just wanted to play nickel to it. And they've got neighbors getting covered by linebackers at times. That's a really good feel by Likely here. So really good offensive line performance as well.
1:10:38Yeah, putting that on his back shoulder. I like Jackson Dart running still, you know,
1:10:42Pat McAfee:because there could have been a little bit of a gun shyness, especially with how much we were talking about him in that blue tent. And when he's hurt, obviously he could potentially not have a full career that we're all expecting. Get neighbors back on the field. Cause John Harbaugh tackled him during a warmup. Then you get obviously likely seemingly being open all of the time. Well, think about it like this. They started the game, new era, new regime, new identity. The first play of the game, they put unbalanced. So they take the left tackle. They put them over to the right. They've got Ricard on the field.
1:11:11They've got Scadaboo on the field. and they just run your traditional power play. Just here comes first snap of the game. The first pass of the game is just a hitch to Malik Nabors. So I like the fact that the message was sent from the Giants. Like, we're going to be a physical group. This is the first play of the game. We're going to run the ball right at you. And then Nabors is going to get the first catch of the game. And Nabors looks awesome. He looks absolutely outstanding. And Isaiah likely could not get covered in matchups. So they look legit. Like, this is not a fluke. The tape was not a fluke.
1:11:42And I would say this, too. The Giants defensive line dominated. Dominated. One-on-ones dominated.
1:11:47Pat McAfee:Yeah, and they move on from sexy dexy. How are you going to be able to do it? They do just fine. And then the Dallas Cowboys felt like there was a little bit of momentum. Didn't like GP dropping those balls. Man. Several. Especially in a franchise tag year, bro. Hey, come on. Come on. You need to go get your money right now. Not that he's not going to for the rest of the year, but that was kind of alarming to me. CD obviously has a good game. But every time Dallas was seemingly getting back in it, we're building big Mo, we're building big Mo, the Giants answered. Felt like there was some real maturity early in this John Harbaugh era.
1:12:15Big time. Adult operation. Did not beat themselves. Very efficient on offense. Quarterback played at a high clip. The defense, every guy. I mean, there's multiple. Now there's a lot of penalties. But that drive is a perfect example of the difference of the teams. He throws the same route to the same player position-wise three straight times. The Cowboys and really the same guys below the coverage. Three straight plays. It's shocking that that would happen even in week one for me. It's still shocking. But the boredom of making that throw, I think, is a sign of growth by Jackson Dart in the offense.
1:12:49And it just didn't look like a fluke. It looked like the Giants can flat out play.
1:12:53Pat McAfee:I like that he kept the paint on the face. I like that. I like that he got the paint on his face. I like the scataboo's back. I like seemingly that that team has come together around John Harbaugh's tough, hard-nosed training camp. Good for the Giants. You guys might be for real. And also, fun team to watch. She's got dogs across the board. Scadaboo, it's great to see you back. He hits that pile on, though, on that backflip. I mean, we need a little better awareness on his backflips. He said, I won't do it on a slippy surface, and he said there was like a cushiony surface. It's like, well, what about when there's a pile on on the surface, Scadaboo?
1:13:23Pat McAfee:Let's make sure we – He just cracks the pile on in half. That's so close. I don't know. They've got cameras in those things, though. Not that Scadaboo couldn't take that out, but I like where the Giants are. Now let's talk about another NFC team. a completely different reaction from the fans. Ty Schmidt has a question for you, Dan Orlovsky. Yeah, Dan, listen, I know it's early, so I don't want to go crazy. But at this point, you know, this shit just keeps happening to the Packers over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. And it goes on and on and on and on and on and on and on.
1:13:59And I'm sick of it.
1:14:03Whose shoulders do you put this on? How much of this is LeFleur? Why can't these guys close out a game? They look great for three quarters, and then the fourth quarter begins, and they just look like they don't know how to play, or they're scared. I mean, I don't know what it is. The old line obviously didn't look great, but how big of a red flag is this for you for the Packers moving forward? Significant red flag for me. You can't close out games when your offensive line is getting absolutely destroyed. Jordan Love will not make the season if the offensive line is going to play that way. He will not make the year.
1:14:35And, Ty, the only way that they or reason they looked good through the first three quarters, Jordan Love was out of his mind. He made six just outrageous throws against all odds type of situations. That offensive line is not going to keep him upright and on the field unless they get a lot better real quickly. That ball's tipped, so it's not a big deal. Listen, I think it's as undisciplined a performance that we've seen from Matt LaFleur's group, and I love Matt LaFleur. nine defensive penalties. Are some of them tic-tac-y? Yes. I think the interception penalty is absolute dog trash. Yeah. But nine defensive penalties at the end of the day, like that's way too much, especially you're giving the – I think four of them were either to take the ball away or convert third downs for Minnesota's offense.
1:15:25So I'm way more concerned. I think the defense can clean up the penalties and you're going to catch a break not getting it called. The offensive line is not good enough. It was an issue last year. I thought it had been corrected. I know Flores is a lunatic and blitzing all the time. It's got to get better.
1:15:42Pat McAfee:Okay, so on that note, AJ has a question for you. Yeah, Dana, as a quarterback, when Flores is dialing up like this and we see him compared to the rest of the league, they dial up pressure and they seem to get home very often. I guess as a QB, as an offensive coordinator, what do you do? How do you defeat this? First thing is you have to go first down, second down, first down mentality-wise. You have to. You can never think of, well, let's get to third and three, third and four. Good luck. Second thing is you have to have a Rolodex for your protections. So one of the things that I learned from being around some coaches like Jim Bob Cooter was one of them.
1:16:16Peyton Manning was one of them, not as a coach, but a player is. If you think you're going to get to the line of scrimmage versus this defense and you're going to figure out what they're doing in three seconds, change, communicate, and get everybody protected, you're dead. I mean, there's seven guys at the line of scrimmage. Now it's third and 17, so Flores' thought is, well, if you throw the ball short, we'll all rally. But he's got seven guys up there. You only have six in protection, so one of them is more than likely going to come free. You've got droppers out there, so you can't think that you're going to be perfect.
1:16:46It's like, okay, we're going to run this protection on this third down, this protection on this second down, this protection on third down, and just kind of rolodex it rather than trying to be perfect because Flores will figure it out. You've got to change your launch point. We'll get into it, I'm sure. I thought one of the great things that Buffalo did yesterday was consistently change Josh Allen's launch point, constantly move where he was throwing the ball from. Green Bay didn't do that. And if you're going to stand there at the same spot against that defense in passing situations, you're dead.
1:17:17Yeah.
1:17:18Pat McAfee:Is that where you ran out of the back of the end zone at? Not the new one, the old one. Metrodome. The place was loud. Shout out. Ruth left. Yeah, they got loud fans. It was very loud. Jordan Love was feeling that the whole time, I think, you know, especially in that fourth quarter. When that momentum just started piling on, it almost felt inevitable. And I don't want to talk to A.J. and Ty, who obviously have Packers. A.J.'s the all-time leading tackler for the Packers. Ty's an owner of the Packers. It did start feeling inevitable there, didn't it? Aaron Jones scores that touchdown. Aaron Jones scores that touchdown, and it's like, oh, my God, the Packers are dead.
1:17:51Pat McAfee:6.42. Go ahead. No, yeah. When they went for it on fourth down and didn't get it, I was like, oh, shit, they're going to lose this game because it really did. Like up until that point, it kind of felt like everything was going to be okay. And then at this point, like I didn't think it was going to get as out of, out of hand as it did, but I knew at that point I was like, oh boy, they're going to lose. And they did. And the Carson Wentz experience is certainly something now that the Minnesota Vikings are maybe going to ride for the next couple of weeks. JJ, Tyler, JJ, Tyler, JJ, Tyler, Carson Wentz.
1:18:24Pat McAfee:The Carson Wentz experience is the real deal. We had a chance to live it whenever he was an Indianapolis Colt. The highs. Oh, man. You know, you get up to the top. Kennywood. When he's up at K.O. Yeah. Bam's Revenge and also Steel Curtain. Steel Curtain actually has no puller on it. It's just Pittsburgh Steel. What do you mean it has no puller on it? There's no – you're just the steel. It's just momentum, gravity, and the steel that makes it so – And I think he goes eight. How fast did it go? I don't want to say a number. 690 miles an hour. Kilometers. Kilometers. I don't think any of that is accurate.
1:19:01Pat McAfee:But the Carson Wentz experience. Both of them. It's fun. Okay. There is always the potential inevitable in you. Carson Wentz's biggest supporter knows that there's a. That's going to come along. He had a couple of them yesterday. But Kevin O 'Connell potentially perfect for Carson Wentz. And I know last year he didn't. He wasn't undefeated. But it's like another year in the offseason. knowing the Kevin O 'Connell offense, probably quite a head start over Kyler whenever it comes to that particular factor. And then whenever you talk about knowing defenses and coverages and things that have happened, Carson Wentz has been there, done that.
1:19:32Pat McAfee:The guy was in MVP discussions. Can Kevin O 'Connell make him great all the time? Because that's what we're looking for in Carson Wentz, right? I don't know if you're going to get great all the time anymore from Carson because there is that scattered element still in his game. But I do think that if they can get him to just play a little bit more calmer, now their defense should help. There's obviously a superstar. Easy to do that. What are you going to do? Are you going to shoot him with a trink? No, but there's still moments. There's still moments when he plays good, calm, under control football.
1:20:02Hawk made some big catches. Oliver made some big catches. JJ made some big catches. So he plays for moments under control. And then he has moments when he still has the head-scratching play that's probably going to be a part of his game forever. He gets bailed out by some of those penalties that take away missed third down throws or interceptions. But it'll be interesting to see if Kyler's cleared, hopefully he's going to be okay, what they do. I do think it gives you the comfort of he gives us chances to win games, and you're not going to have the disaster that last year was.
1:20:37Pat McAfee:Yeah, he was fun to watch yesterday. He was fun to watch with the Colts. He's the first backup since 1950, Fran Tarkenton, to come in and have three touchdowns and no turnovers. Backup quarterbacks don't get a lot of reps with the team, obviously. Carson Wentz doesn't need them because every play is supposed to be a touchdown. And you talk about him playing calmer? I don't think so, bro. That's why he's on top of a roller coaster. That ain't calm. That's why you're going to have games that you go, yep, and then you're going to have games or moments that are going to hurt you. So it's kind of the style of player that he is right now.
1:21:09Pat McAfee:Good enough, though. You said the Minnesota Vikings, if they have average quarterback play. They can contend. Can Carson Wentz do average quarterback play? Honestly, I would tell you it's probably like a three-point shooter. If you get there, because the roller coaster that you're talking, how long can he stay on the high and avoid those extended lows? Tom Brady or Jameis Winston at any time. You're the expert.
1:21:39Adam Schefter:Legit. A lot of whoop-do-woos. A lot of whoop-do-woos. It's easy to do in Minnesota to stay at the top, though. It's a good offensive line. Obviously, plenty of people. Talent-wise, perimeter player. Touchdown.
1:21:50Pat McAfee:He's doing all those things, man. I watched him balance a football himself on the ground. He took the ball. Would have fell to hell with this thing. What is this, a football? Goes down on the ground, stands back up, throws it in triple coverage. You know what's crazy? He used to. He grabs it. First time. When he was younger, he used to do the whole, like, I think he had one versus Washington eight years ago type thing where he ducks under the pressure. Like four defenders are coming right towards him. He, like, ducks under it, gets out of it, makes a play. And he's been beat up since then, right?
1:22:21The last five years he's just been beat up. He did it again yesterday. It must be like a reaction thing where, like, two defensive tackles would be running at him. He, like, somehow just continues to – and he's massive. Just to try to duck under them. And I'm like, how are you still doing the duck? Toughest son of a bitch on earth. By far.
1:22:38Pat McAfee:He's got a bull rider body in mentality. He just straps in looking to go seven seconds. I don't know if you guys saw, did you see what that bull did to that guy at the PBR? The one that kicked him into the fence? Yeah, I don't know if we have the video but nice clean shot out of this bull rider that I don't think I've ever seen before. I mean... He made him an advertisement, that one? Yeah, you got posters. He got literally posterized by this. He became a poster on the wall of the luscious. And then his spur obviously ends up in the linen upper. I'm not supposed to laugh.
1:23:25Pat McAfee:But on that note, that's Carson Wentz football right there. He's the bull. That is what Carson Wentz football is. If I could explain the Carson Wentz experience and one thing, it would be what that bull just did to that rider right there. Because you see at the beginning, Carson's on top. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're doing this thing. And all of a sudden, he goes out of nowhere, and he's left-handed shot put in a zero-yard pick six to lose the AFC South. And it's like, that's boom, bang, pow, boom, bull hits you right off the wall. And then he gets his leg out, broke his hip. Let me get my leg out of here.
1:23:58Pat McAfee:And then he gets right back on top of that bull again. That's Carson Wentz experience, and I'm pumped that the Minnesota Vikings are doing it. Maybe Kevin O 'Connell can find the best version of Carson Wentz. Now, speaking of finding the best version, have you seen what the Baltimore Ravens did? Connor has a question for you, Dano. Yeah, Dano was remarkable yesterday in Lucas Oil, watching the Ravens just absolutely dismantle the Colts. It wasn't even close, I believe. Hey, listen, that is not what I thought this was going to be. No, no, I was about to say, Shane Steichen actually had a beautiful first 15.
1:24:28They walked down the field. Jonathan Taylor scores the first touchdown of the game. They go up 7-0. Of the season, yeah. Score the first one on any team. Just wonderful. And all of a sudden we're thinking, hold on, the Colts are doing the cool dance move. That was right in front of the suite. It was incredible. And then Lamar Jackson and Declan Doyle put 41 on the Colts' head. What are they doing offensively, schematically, that you're seeing that makes you think this will be the best version of Lamar and the Baltimore Ravens? and are you on the same page as us where this might be the greatest football team of all time and they could go 20-0 and win the Super Bowl?
1:25:05Yeah, so Declan Doyle was the question mark going into really the year along with the wide receivers. One, I love the fact that they've gone back to under center motion. The first snap of the game, they get into condensed splits, ball fake, Lamar out to his left, Zay Flowers runs that beautiful kind of sell the crosser and come back to the corner route, and it's a perfect throw. I love the zone. I love this. The space that is created for those two players is awesome. The way that they used Zay is very similar to a way that we've seen almost the Rams use Cooper Cup back in the day. We saw him line up in the slot.
1:25:42We saw him line up in the stack. We saw him line up in the backfield. I thought Zay's awareness of what the defense was doing was probably the biggest thing. We know he's twitchy and sudden and crazy fast. He has so many clips on that tape of winning, eyes back to the quarterback getting past the defender eyes back to the quarterback zone sitting in that soft spot so i love that we all know lamar's amazing but declan doyle first time being a play caller i think the fact that he kind of goes out and attacks that way it's funny because anthony calhoun guy in indy who's obviously a prominent uh legend yeah great dude he texted me on saturday he's like what do you think i was like they're gonna get they're gonna put 40 on the colts and he's like what do you mean i'm like they're gonna get absolutely smoked by buchanan No Stradanis.
1:26:23Yeah. Just because this offense with Lamar, this offense has always kind of like propped up good quarterbacks. What the hell do you know about this Colts team?
1:26:34Pat McAfee:What did you know? What did you know? Well, I know they're not good enough on the perimeter right now offensively. Alec is not healthy enough. And so you're in downs is really good, but downs isn't like that go to dominate people. I don't think their defense can match up up front with Baltimore's offensive line in the way that they were going to move Lamar. Jeez. Yeah, so, and this new play caller, you didn't know who the play caller was kind of going to be as the game went on. So, I think the two biggest takeaways for me are Declan Doyle and then the defense. I was, I'm not shocked that the Chargers defense looked that bad on tape and Baltimore's defense looked that good.
1:27:18Pat McAfee:I'd like to tell you that I don't like the way you were talking about the Colts before the game against the Ravens because did you not see the first 10 weeks of the season last year? How come you didn't tell me hey, maybe it's not going to be exactly like that when the Indianapolis Colts were the number one team in the league had the best offense in the league and everything was going hunky, freaking as you would say, or sorry, fudging dory for the Indianapolis Colts you said we weren't good enough up front we've paid everybody up front Layout 2-law 2 is a first round draft pick. DeForest Buckner has been paid.
1:27:49Pat McAfee:Grover Stewart's been paid. Our entire front has been paid. We paid a lot of guys. Sauce Gardner outside. We paid a lot of guys. Moody on the other side. We paid. Behind him. This is supposed to be our, this is a very veteran team we have here for the Colts. You thought we're going to lose by 40 going into that thing? Because great play callers minimize great defensive lines. And I think Declan Doyle going into it, I thought he was going to be really good. and he minimized a good defensive line. I just don't think that you guys are talented enough on the perimeter right now. I think the Michael Pittman Jr.
1:28:24trade is a big deal. You guys. Yeah, I'm not making it. Pittman was awesome yesterday. Yeah, was he really? I think he's a good player. That's a loss. He was our leading receiver yesterday. He's a great player. You don't have anybody offensively to really handle Kyle Hamilton. I was really impressed with Baltimore's defense. I thought they were doing things very late that made it hard on the offense.
1:28:46Pat McAfee:Well, good for you to see that before it came because I was walking in there thinking we were just fine. I thought this was going to be the Colts. Remember, we brought everybody back except for Michael Pittman, who I did collapse whenever I heard he was traded away from the team because I know we had to make a decision between Pierce and Pittman. It's like, can we all work out? Everybody else is able to do salary cap gymnastics. How come we're not able to do so? It did feel like it was a big loss. Long season though, Dan. Let's change our tune because the Ravens might be the greatest team to ever play.
1:29:13Pat McAfee:Now, there is some other questions lingering around the NFL. Tone has a question for you, Dano. Yeah, I do, Dan. Obviously, it was against the Browns, but the Browns traditionally have a solid defense. I know it's a new D.C. and a new coaching staff, but they're normally solid. But what Liam Cohen and Trevor Lawrence did to that Browns defense, it looked like they could literally do anything they wanted. It's kind of like Trevor picked up from last year, the second half of last season. What were your thoughts on the Jaguars and them this season after seeing week one against the Brats? Yeah, remarkable what confidence does to a player.
1:29:45This is the transition from Trevor Lawrence. Two years ago, he was about as uncomfortable and lacking confidence as you can be. And throughout that season last year with Liam Cohen, you guys remember the Bengals moment and then him kind of waving them off. and then ever since then this guy has truly walked onto the field and played like he thinks he's the best player on the field there is just this arrogance almost everyone talks about josh allen and arm arrogance we're starting to see trevor lawrence transition into that world i love the three wide receivers that they have parker washington is phenomenal i think that that catch is sick i think he's becoming one of the best number three wide receivers that's quotations because he's probably as good as a lot of twos wide receivers in the NFL I think one of the things that was really interesting from a schematic standpoint and D But and AJ could probably speak to it better than I could tone but They used so many cool motions to stretch the defense horizontally to Then attack kind of the voids in the defense Some late motions that would like stretch like this one you stretch people immediately then watch the release and then the right side of that screen you see the linebacker who's going for the motion and the nickel kind of run into each other that's not by mistake watch this watch the linebacker and nickel now they're following each other you see them there when they stack me and debat actually talked about this before the show today when they stack each other especially if you're man-to-man when they're stacking on top of each other that makes it really difficult because then all of a sudden boom they're breaking one way or the other and you don't know who you're talking to those those offensive guys right yeah the offensive guys at the bottom here stacked yeah
1:31:18Adam Schefter:Yeah, so both defenders, even with zone coverages or man coverages, whenever you're matching, because we have rules where, like, hey, I'm matching final two or I'm matching final three. Right now with this pitcher, we don't know who the final two or final three is because they're kind of in that two-two train. And then once they break out, it creates that much clearer picture for Trevor Lawrence, and that's when you can really – that's what I see from coaches. Like, when coaches can really allow the quarterback's talent to take over, like you talk about Jackson Dart playing fast with his eyes, like once you can paint that clear picture and then, hey, they can pull the trigger or say, hey, tuck it and run.
1:31:50Adam Schefter:So Liam has really unlocked Trevor Lawrence. He's been phenomenal.
1:31:55Pat McAfee:Yeah, and Liam going into that locker room afterwards with the ah, ah, and then him this offseason, nobody's talking about us. You know, we're talking about all this other stuff. Nobody's talking about the Jacksonville Jaguars. I feel like they've been drawn from that all offseason as well. What are your projections for the Jacksonville Jags after one week of play? The Browns are shite, they're saying. Yeah. So let's not overreact maybe too much, but maybe the Browns aren't absolute shite. Maybe the Jags are just a really good football team as well. Yeah, I think that the Jaguars have to be a team that we just sit there and say, don't be surprised if they're making a deep January run.
1:32:27They got a coach who's outstanding play call in design-wise. It seems like the team loves them. Quarterback as confident as any quarterback in the NFL right now. They got three receivers that can flat out go. They got two tight ends, but one that's really good. They got a good back. This defensive line is hunting. Their defensive coordinator is a budding star in this league. I thought they covered really well on the perimeter as well. So you can watch teams play and be like, yeah, I don't care who the opponent is. You can sit there and say that that's a team that is going to be a very difficult team to match up against.
1:33:02This throw is outrageous, by the way. So Jacksonville is for real. And Liam Cohen, Liam Cohen has got a little bit of like Ben Johnson to me. A little bit of like, I want to say this in the right way. No, no. Say it. Go ahead. Say what you want to say. He's got a little bit of like, in a good way, arrogant prick. Moxie. It's a little bit of, no, it's not me.
1:33:30Pat McAfee:It's actually, what what though? What am I saying? Fudge you? Yeah. He's got a lot of fudge you in him. Yeah, I think he's got a lot of that. And I think that's the team. Well, because it's never fudge me. No, it's always fudge you. Is that what you're saying? Sure. Yeah. Do you ever fudge yourself? No. Just I didn't know because it was a fudge me, fudge you situation. The next one is fudge within. You're the best, man. Okay, thanks. You're the best, dude. Thank you for coming by. But Jacksonville's good. Yeah. Yeah, I think they are good. Now, we don't know what teams are going to be, especially after week one, but there's a chance we might know what's going on in Nashville.
1:34:08Pat McAfee:AJ has the last question for you here, Dano. Yeah, Dano, what's your thoughts on the Tennessee Titans, especially their offense. We know Brian Daybull comes in as the offensive coordinator. Do they have a chance this year? Are they going to be all right? Yeah, disappointing answer for me here, AJ. That's like one of the two or three games I haven't watched yet. So before I kind of make it. Wake up. To be honest, why would you? Yeah, that would be the last one. I don't want to comment on the game if I haven't seen it. They sucked, Dan. It was brutal. I saw some clips. I saw some clips of the Jets looking sharp.
1:34:38I haven't seen enough of the Tennessee game. I haven't seen the Tennessee game to kind of comment on it. Sorry, AJ.
1:34:44Pat McAfee:That's a good idea. I'm going to start doing that. That's honesty. Yeah, it is honesty.
1:34:48Adam Schefter:That's the best prophecy.
1:34:50Pat McAfee:It should be the last game you watch, too.
1:34:52Adam Schefter:The absolute last game.
1:34:54Pat McAfee:Yeah, well, okay. So let's talk about some of the teams that look much worse than we could have ever expected. All right, I'll give them to you. How many subjects is that notebook? Okay. Is this one a week? It looks five. Five subjects. Five subjects. I thought the Lions coverage unit in the second half has to give you some concerns in the interior of their offensive line. Jared was great. Gibbs was great. Amon Ra was awesome. But they just didn't win any one-on-one balls. That's got to be concerning. I did not like Washington's offense spacing-wise, pass concept-wise. I don't think Jaden saw the field well.
1:35:30Philadelphia's offensive line is still not good enough. Atlanta obviously dealing with a back of quarterback situation. Pittsburgh, I don't think it's sustainable. What's not sustainable? What do you mean it's not sustainable? Pittsburgh offensively, I just don't think it's sustainable. It's a lot of still like, hey, DK, go run the vertical route. If we connect, we'll be okay. If we don't, we're going to be kind of chasing points. I thought Aaron drifted and made some throws over guys. That was impressive. I talked about Carolina's defense. That's got to get better. the Chargers offense won way too much pistol, way too much gun, way too much pistol, way too much gun.
1:36:08Uh, two, I think Justin got locked on to receivers far too often. Um, meaning just like I'm only throwing it to this guy because I think he's going to be open instead of getting to that second or indoor third read. And that happens in that McDaniel Shanahan system. We've talked about that a little bit of like the quarterback can become so convicted because they think the play call is so good and it's worked all eight times that you've repped it in practice that you don't get to that second or third read. So their defense was not good. That was probably the biggest takeaway is how bad they were in the distribution of rotation or pressures.
1:36:45But AJ, you know it better than me. I think one of the big takeaways with Cincinnati would be Cincinnati won and Joe did not play well. I thought Joe played really slow from that perspective, but winning without your quarterback, especially Burrow playing well, I think is a really positive thing for... I thought Cincinnati's defense played better than the box score kind of showed as well.
1:37:07Pat McAfee:Alright, so those were who bummed you out. It sounds like those teams bummed you out a little bit. Chargers bummed me out. I was expecting a lot out of McDaniel and Justin and Miss Beer. Everything they had going on, I was really hoping for a lot there. Especially with Jim Harbaugh and McDaniel having such a cool post-game press conference. Instead, all they're doing is hoeing and humming over here, and all we hear is McDaniel and I have an answer. We assume they're going to get better? Okay, so defensively, way too soft and way too displaced. I would imagine that gets better, but no Jesse Minter.
1:37:41Offensively, I've said it, way too much pistol, way too much gun. He's got to have a much better plan for pressure. Their offensive line did not get back out of the run game. Dude, I'm telling you, the best receiver that doesn't get talked about in football is Mike Wilson. Marv's got a great go-ball catch there, but Mike Wilson's so stinking good man he's so good so yeah i think it'll get better for the chargers but there's a lot to clean up there's about as disappointing a tape offense and defense that we had in the league they got the worst schedule too by the way they also have the worst schedule because that was another thing that people were talking about was like hey tough loss to the cardinals but they're going to be able to bounce back you know to everything that you guys are talking about now and then someone uh took a screenshot and just kind of showed everyone the next you know 10 games they have, it is a gauntlet.
1:38:28They have Vegas for sure, but then if you just look right there, it is probably the worst schedule in the NFL. They come here. Patrick will probably be fully healthy then. It is a gauntlet. Holy smokes. Dude, if they don't beat the Raiders.
1:38:47Pat McAfee:Let's talk about the Raiders. Kirk's got to not give the damn ball away. Gentry can play. Kubiak's going to dial it up. The defense is going to be outrageous. Are the Raiders not ass? I think the Raiders aren't ass. I haven't seen that game yet. Watch this. We're not even watching ball anymore, man. Dan, another good decision. That's another good decision. I haven't watched Raiders. I haven't watched Jets. I haven't watched Jets. I haven't watched Jets. Okay, yeah. That makes sense. We understand why Raiders are the priority the way you are, but we don't love. Your priorities are right. Yeah, I like you're telling the truth, too, because this might be a new thing for you.
1:39:21Pat McAfee:This is cool. I take pretty immense pride in telling the truth Yeah, but every once in a while you always give a take and you certainly did not watch That's not true, dude Yeah, Connor's got a list of them Oh yeah, I got them all right here, Dano and also, let me just mention as well you picked Joe Burrow to be your MVP this season and funny enough, Joe Burrow and the Bengals have the easiest strength to schedule this year so, kind of contradictory of what Drake made and that entire conversation was last year Remember what you did? strength of schedule is a stupid conversation because it's about the what the team did the season before and teams are different every year exactly yeah well did you say that about whatever that stuff whenever you're talking about because it was about the present season not the season before yeah but you kept saying like drake's playing against the shay competition man that's gonna do it no you gotta have to stop making things oh yeah you're right you're right you're right because people will cut with that and they'll continue to kill you for it.
1:40:20Pat McAfee:Yeah. A lot of the things we say, Dan says, he has said similar things. We are just kind of sprucing it up a little bit for our own enjoyment, which we do understand that there are ripple effects, so we apologize for that. Tonight, final take on this evening's game. Yeah, I just want to see how Patrick looks. I mean, it's truly remarkable the fact that he's playing in this game. It really is. This is not normal. And just how he settles in, I mean, he's a crazy competitor. I would imagine the juices will be a billion tonight. And so kind of how he settles in, I just believe they got to play philosophically different offensively in today's NFL.
1:40:56So a little bit more in the center, a little bit more kind of allowing this offensive line to lean on people, protecting Patrick. Let's not get him hit. And those perimeter players versus man coverage. Remember in man, the defense chooses the matchup and zone the offense does. So when Denver plays man with Patrick Sertan, they're going to take away the person that they think in that setting is going to be the most viable threat. And then that second or third person's got to win.
1:41:20Pat McAfee:All right. Well, Dana, we appreciate you. Good to see you. You're going to be live on NFL Live here? Yep. Anything else? What do you got? No, I think that's basically the whole league, man. What's that? What, you just covered? Well, except for the games you didn't watch because I thought we had full commitment at the ball. Yeah. Turns out. Maybe the season starts next week for you, Dan. It's 1245. Wake up! Stop, Dan. Wake up, Dan. Monday, dude, not Sunday. Oh!
1:41:53Wake up.
1:42:00Thank you. You and I can side text about that comment. Oh, yeah. Oh, what do you guys want comment? He was like, is he a guy? You're fucking dead.
1:42:09Pat McAfee:Oh, you're going to cry. I thought you had a good take. I don't know what's going on here. I think we had a good performance today. This is getting funny to hear at the end. I don't like it. It's great. The boys. Okay, good. All right, ladies and gentlemen, CAA client Dan Orlovsky. Dan O. There's no reason for us to do that. There's no reason for us to do that. What's the side tech score? Well, that's what I'm saying. He said he wants to talk to D-Bot about bringing up the CAA thing. Never again, Darius. Not fudging cool, pal. He doesn't talk like that in his side. What? Really? what do you mean he doesn't talk like that inside text screen grab that i don't want to relay all the conversation because there's loud voices at this moment but d-butt said maybe you don't do your fudging routine inside text that's just what was said right here i just thought i'm relaying a message once again messenger he said tell d-butt i fudge and love him i did see steven a get on him for it is he gonna stop oh yeah i like that steven a did that steven a did that for all of us.
1:43:15Pat McAfee:We've had to sit through yesterday and budging. Awesome. Dan's still here. Dan's still here. Sorry, Dan. Sorry, I thought you left. Didn't know you had to hear that. You're the best. Dan, you're the absolute best. We appreciate you. Thank you for everything you do for ball. Thank you, Dano. We'll see you next week, hopefully, live in Los Angeles as the Rams are on Monday Night Football here in Kansas City. Quickly, before we are joined by an incredible guest, somebody that is probably way too important to be on this show. So the fact that it's happening will certainly make the most of that. But we have to hit some college ball very quickly because obviously the weekend was spectacular.
1:43:52Pat McAfee:A.J. Hawk, just some quick thoughts on the collapse of the Ohio State Buckeyes at the hands of Arch Manning and the Texas Longhorns. It was a hot one down there in Austin. Obviously the day was riddled with magical moments and what Arch Manning did in the fourth quarter some people are going to call back to as maybe a Heisman moment even though it was only week two. The boys went crazy. Ohio State seemed to be a bit gassed at the end. I'll tell you, with the heat, it was certainly draining. Maybe the Texas boys were used to it. Nonetheless, every play they needed, fourth and six, fourth and nine, they went and got it.
1:44:24Pat McAfee:The Buckeyes weren't able to stop it. AJ, the biggest storyline of the weekend is the number one team in the land loses to Texas and becomes the third top ten team that has lost to Arch Manning down at DKR. AJ, quick thoughts on where Ohio State Buckeyes sit right now and how you guys are going to respond. do you think? And is Texas for real this year? It certainly felt like that in the fourth quarter. Yeah, I think this Texas team looks like they are for real. Arch obviously grew up, had a huge second half. It's very disappointing for Ohio State. We all know that. So many things had to not go right for them to lose this game by one at the end.
1:44:58So credit to Texas for doing that at home. But the good thing is everything's still out in front of you. If you are Ohio State, you can go make a run. Maybe this wakes them up early. But yeah, credit to this Texas team for winning you know what i saw joel clatt give his top 10 he goes ohio state number two he said hey we cannot penalize these coaches for these big games because they will not schedule these huge games in the future if we drop them out of the top 10 or something for losing in week two so i like that about it and i like that hey like i say every time just go run the table if you're ohio state go take care of business and you can still everything is still in front of you but yeah hugely disappointing loss obviously i think it's tough and arch manning goes crazy i like the
1:45:35Pat McAfee:way he operates. He was just immediately after the game talking with Ms. Laura saying, yeah, it's going to be a great night in Austin. Yeah, it's going to be a great night in Austin. It feels like he does have his uncle Manning's idea that being a good teammate is hanging out with the lads. That's obviously a huge deal. And then let's pivot away from Texas, Ohio state, Michigan gets a huge win over Oklahoma tone. None of us expected that is Michigan back. What do we expect from Oklahoma going forward after a huge loss in the big house? Yeah. I like what we saw here out of Bryce Underwood using their legs.
1:46:06I believe he rushed 18 times on Saturday. Hey, let's do that moving forward. Obviously, the Utah coaching staff is used to that, so that looked really good for the offense in the first half. This was a defensive game. I mean, the offenses, they scored some points, but both of these defenses are going to be really, really good when they come up against other good defenses. I think these offenses are going to struggle. Oklahoma, basically the same team as last year in those regards. I think these teams will be great when their defenses can play great and then their offenses play a complimentary football off of that.
1:46:35Pat McAfee:Obviously, Oregon loses the Oklahoma State. Huge storyline. And now all eyes are towards Oxford as LSU. This guy balled out of his mind. Oklahoma State brand new out of North Texas. Coach Morris goes up there. Whole new roster. Whole new everything. They hadn't won in forever. And they knock off Oregon at home as he sets sail from about the four yard line. Love what that team's doing. Now, let's pivot away from college back to Monday Night football. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now, Chairman and CEO of the Kansas City Chiefs, Clark Hunt. Great to be with you. Do you hear the boys clapping for you back in the Thunderdome?
1:47:12I sure do. I gotta tell you, I really like your studio here at Arrowhead Stadium.
1:47:18Pat McAfee:Okay, so tell me about this. We're in the Foolish Lounge, and obviously I saw it on the wall. We did some research during the break. Your family is obviously massive influential in the football world, from NFL creating to AFL, to you name it. We've learned a lot about your family and what they've done. The Foolish Lounge feels like this is very symbolic of everything that has kind of happened to Ball right here. Can you tell us a little bit about that? And thank you for the hospitality. Yeah, absolutely. So in the late 1950s, when my dad founded the American Football League and began taking on the National Football League, he and the rest of the owners were criticized and they were told, you guys have no chance.
1:47:56So they jokingly started referring to themselves as the Foolish Club because they were so foolish to take on the powerful NFL. Of course, at the end of the day, he ended up being successful and forged a merger in 1966 that gave us the NFL that we have today. But this is one of the ways in Arrowhead that we remember my dad and his tremendous legacy and everything he did for the game of football.
1:48:16Pat McAfee:Yeah, thank you to your family for everything, obviously, on the AFC trophy name. And we went to the Hall of Fame, and they have so much stuff from your dad and the way that they are talking about each other trying to get this all done and who needs to this guy needs to never be heard from again this guy needs to be seen just like the vision is crazy can you tell me a little bit about the vision of this year's Kansas City Chiefs obviously get Patrick Mahomes back early Travis Kelsey obviously back Chris Jones back you have Eric B enemy back in the building can you tell me about the vibes this year as owner our chairman and CEO also owner of team first maybe last year which obviously was a little bit disappointing for the squad yeah well last year clearly was very disappointing.
1:48:55The first year with Andy Reid and a losing record here in Kansas City was something we weren't accustomed to. It was probably highlighted by Patrick's injury with three or so games to go. I think all of us with the Chiefs during this offseason really had the bit in our mouth and were eagerly awaiting for tonight, the kickoff to the season, to get back out there and hopefully show the world that we still have a pretty good team. I know Patrick and Travis and Chris Jones, all those guys are eager to be out there. Andy Reid and his coaching staff, they're very excited to get the season going. Of course, we're very excited that Patrick's back and able to play.
1:49:32Pat McAfee:You've had fans lined up since 7.30 last night to get in here. Obviously have a good time as we were driving in. Cars just parked, having their own tailgate situation as we drive in, in traffic as they open the gates to get in here to Arrowhead. Should be a spectacular evening. We're lucky that Monday Night Football is starting here tonight. A.J. Hawk back in the Thunderdome has a question for you, Clark. Mr. Hunt, I'm just wondering, when you're watching this game, every single game obviously that you guys play, especially tonight opening the season, Patrick coming off of an injury, are you anxious?
1:50:01Are you nervous? What's it like? Is it like you're watching your own children? I cannot imagine what it must be like in your shoes. Yeah, every game is a little bit unnerving. Tonight will probably be especially so with Patrick back out there coming off the injury. It's going to be exciting to see him step on the field to take that first snap. But I think we're all going to be holding our breath every time he gets hit, you know, the first time he takes a sack. Those are going to be scary moments. But I know Patrick's not going to be thinking about it. He's going to be thinking about how he can win the football game.
1:50:31Pat McAfee:Okay, let's talk about Patrick Mahomes. He's already been deemed a young goat, you know, for good reason. The dynasty in New England I think will be tough to ever keep up with, 20 years having the massive amount of success. But there was a long drought in between Super Bowl runs for them. For you, as you think about dynasty and obviously history of the game, How do you describe this Andy Reid, Patrick Mahomes era whenever you're talking about it? And what do you think is your role in continuing that so that obviously dominance can continue for Kansas City? Yeah, well, we've been very blessed here in Kansas City to have both Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes.
1:51:03It's very rare that you get the combination of a Hall of Fame coach and a Hall of Fame quarterback. And when you do, usually good things happen. And that's certainly been the case here over the last 10 years with the two of them both here in Kansas City. Knock on wood, hopefully our run's not over. You know, Patrick's still young at 30 years old. Tom, who you mentioned, won a bunch of Super Bowls after age 30. So we're hoping we can get back, win a few more, and at the end of the day, hope there's a big debate over who's the greatest of all time.
1:51:34Pat McAfee:I like to hear that.
1:51:35Adam Schefter:D-Butt has a question for you, Clark. Yeah, Mr. Hunt, back on Patrick and I guess Andy Reid as well. What have you seen as far as the evolution of their relationship and kind of the impact of Patrick's mindset on the franchise as a whole since he's been there? Yeah, well, I think a big part of our success has been the fact that the two of them work so well together. They can literally complete each other's sentences at this point. And that's part of Andy's secret sauce. He's always been regarded as a quarterback whisperer. Certainly he's been that way with Patrick from day one. I don't think Patrick needs him whispering anymore.
1:52:10He's sort of figured it out by this point. But the two of them definitely have a special relationship. It's going to be fun to see how the offense evolves this year. We made a conscientious effort to add some really talented running backs to the roster. Should give Patrick an opportunity to be under center a little bit more.
1:52:28Pat McAfee:Okay, final, before we get out of here on a hard out, can you give us a score prediction? How often do owners do score predictions? Yeah, I tend not to do score predictions. but last Thursday we were out in the community celebrating what we call Red Friday, which we did on Thursday this year because of 9-11. And I got asked the question a few times, so I'm going to stick with my spread, the Chiefs by 10. Okay. We appreciate you so much. Thank you for you and your family's contribution to sport in the best league on earth. You're the absolute man for the hospitality. We're lucky and thankful to be here.
1:53:00Pat McAfee:Good luck to your team this year. Good luck to everybody. Yeah, thanks very much. I think we're all excited to have the football season rolling again. Ladies and gentlemen, Clark Hunt. Yay, Clark! Okay, as we wrap up here on ESPN, we will continue digitally. Hold on one second, Clark. We put you in a bad spot there, Tony. It was over. This is Clark Hunt. His team will be hosting Monday Night Football tonight. Monday Night Countdown starts 6 p.m. Eastern. We'll be back here tomorrow overreacting to everything. Goodbye. Okay, I think we hit the heart out there. We're still live, Clark. We're going to take a break.
1:53:28Pat McAfee:We'll be back on the other side. Cover all the headlines that we've missed, all the teams that we did not bring up. We have to show respect. And then we'll also declare some teams dead right now. Hope that's all your team after tonight. We're going to declare some teams dead. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change your life. Take five. Five.
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1:56:22Pat McAfee:I got a couple of legends alongside. Back at the Thunderdome, a man who is a college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup winner, Ohio State Buckeye top Saturday night. That's AJ Hawk, ladies and gentlemen. AJ, good to see you. Thank you for traveling back to the Thunderdome for this magical overreaction Monday. I think there's been a lot of good things to talk about, but we need to dive into how the fans feel. Nine-year NFL vet, Darius J. Butler. You know what we're about to do, D. Butch? We're about to do some overreactions, pal. How do you think they are? Do you think they're just kind of conservative?
1:56:56Pat McAfee:Do you think we got people losing their minds on this first overreaction?
1:56:58Adam Schefter:I would assume losing their minds. Week one, everybody has expectations coming into the season, and depending on how your team performs, you may be pissed off, or you could be crowning your team Super Bowl champ, so I'm excited to see these.
1:57:10Pat McAfee:Yeah, and I'll tell you what, I'm not doing that with my one team, but with my NFC team, I'm certainly thinking there's a chance. Let's go to the toxic table at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt. Ty Schmidt, you are the one that goes through the hashtag. I don't want to overreact and kind of pick your favorites to make the program. What should we be expecting today? Was it a lot morning in the NFL fandom? Yes, it was. But I kind of tried to balance it out, you know, between teams who maybe had very high expectations coming into this year. and then laid an absolute egg week one, and then teams who either – now they believe they can win the Super Bowl.
1:57:46So it is kind of like there's half of the people who – as it should be. It's week one. Everyone had expectations of winning the Super Bowl. Half the people think they still can, and about half the people think, okay, what's the point? Why even watch next week?
1:57:59Pat McAfee:Yeah, I like to hear that. Let's go to one half of the hammer. Duh! Way to go. Ladies and gentlemen, that cowboy is AP Tone. Tone, what is the line tonight? What is the percentage? And what should we be thinking as we look at this week one wrap-up here in Kansas City, Missouri? Yeah, Denver at KC. KC, two and a half point favorites at home in Arrowhead. 50-50 on the money line tonight is the money for that situation. But 74 % of the money is on the Broncos plus the two and a half. The public likes the Broncos getting points. The total, 43-and-a-half. That is also split 50-50, even though there's been so many points this weekend.
1:58:40If we get 43 tonight, we are setting a record 9-6 to the overs. Favorites were 8-7 against the spread this weekend. So that's what we're looking at tonight before we have kickoff.
1:58:52Pat McAfee:Okay, let's go through the Thunderdome. I will reserve my right to make the pick on this particular game at Monday Night Countdown. There you go. What were the picks this weekend between me and AJ? Do we have a graphic for that? I've not seen it, actually. Oh, AJ. Oh! Awesome. As the games are going on, I was racking my brain to see who I picked. I couldn't remember one choice I made, to be honest. Dude, I thought I did good. I guess because I flopped so many times on a few of them, I didn't remember which one I ended up going with. Five and eight, tough week one. AJ, nine and four. Good start, brother.
1:59:28Pat McAfee:Congrats to you. One and oh. Wow, Hongo. That's a great start. Okay, before I'll make the pick tonight, Monday Night Countdown, obviously that's a huge part of it. Let's go to nine-year NFL vet, Darius J. Butler. Chiefs favored by two and a half at home, taking on the Denver Broncos. Who do you like? How do you like it, D-Buck?
1:59:45Adam Schefter:The over-under is wild with that record being on the line. But as far as the game line, after hearing Clark Hunt come on and knowing the refs love the Chiefs, sounds like he has a script, I'm taking Kansas City Chiefs to win and to easily cover this two and a half points. Give me the Chiefs. What do you mean it sounded like he had the script? Because he's a Hunt family member or just because? That's the narrative. Everybody's going to spin it, especially if Taylor's in the building. Hey, you know, set up for the Chiefs. They're kind of flying under the radar, too. Everybody is pretty high on the Broncos and Bo Nix.
2:00:16Adam Schefter:But, yeah, I think Patrick Mahomes, he's got a big, big chip on his shoulder. I think he comes out firing all cylinders. It's crazy that he's even out here starting week one. Let's start with that. But, yeah, I'm taking Mahomes and Chiefs to win in cover.
2:00:28Pat McAfee:So you're saying if Taylor's in the building more so like the Chiefs? Yeah, for sure. 1 ,000%. She's definitely. And all Taylor's saying is who's afraid of little old me? Well, it sounds like potentially the Denver Broncos need to be a little bit afraid of the aura that's coming in here. Monday night football opener, Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelsey, Bo Nix, Patrick Sertan, Jalen Waddell is a member of the Denver Broncos now. I don't think anybody has really wrapped their minds around what that could do for Bo in this particular city. Let's go over to the toxic table at Boston Conner. Who do you like?
2:01:00Pat McAfee:How do you like it, pal? I'm going to go 23-20 Broncos. It feels like Vegas has been very good on these over-unders this week, especially the spreads. Although I'm going with the underdog in Denver, Denver does just get no respect. It is one of those things where they're third in odds to win their division behind the Chiefs, behind the Chargers. They went to the AFC title game last year, and it's one of those things where I believe Tone gave me this stat on Friday. They returned like 97 % of their starters as far as snaps goes. I'm assuming that other 3 % is Jalen Waddell being the new wide receiver, too.
2:01:35So I really like the Broncos tonight, actually, with the plus 2.5.
2:01:38Pat McAfee:Broncos plus 2.5 for Boston Connor. Ty Schmidt, I know your mind is certainly in maybe a different place today with the way the Green Bay Packers just absolutely shite the bed in the fourth quarter last night. But if you could turn your focus to tonight, who do you like? How do you like it? I also like the Broncos straight up. I think a lot of people, you know, we're talking about, hey, first-time play caller. We'll see what Davis Webb is doing. After seeing what Declan Doyle did with the Ravens, now listen, I know it's different personnel and all that kind of stuff, but I'm starting to think that maybe these guys who are finally getting the reins, maybe they do know a thing or two about home plays.
2:02:13I agree with Connor. Last year, the Broncos were the team that everybody wanted. Hey, this team's going to make a deep run, maybe go to the Super Bowl. That's kind of just evaporated, and I don't know what changed, so I'm also going to go with the Broncos.
2:02:28Pat McAfee:Okay, Broncos across the toxic table and then we'll go to one half of the hammer. Dad Cowboys AP tone tone at 50 50 on the money line. I'll be excited to hear which way you go because you do like fading humans. What do you like? How do you like it tonight? I do like fading humans. They're just a stupid bunch normally. But with that being said, Patrick Mahomes, it's the first preseason that he has got no action, no snaps in the preseason. and we kind of saw this weekend that quarterbacks that didn't play in the preseason, they can come out a little bit sloppy. So I'm excited to see what happens there tonight.
2:03:03Bo did play in the preseason a little bit. We talked about the new play caller with the Broncos. You still have the head coach there who I will soon be overseeing some things with Sean Payton. I love the Denver Broncos plus the two and a half. Wow. P-O-Y contender.
2:03:18Pat McAfee:What's the just record with this spread? Pretty good, actually. Pretty good, actually. You guys are fooled. What's Patrick Mahomes' record against the Broncos at home? 7-0 or something? Yeah.
2:03:28Adam Schefter:Geez. They got an OC back in the building, too, right? Yeah, they do, don't they?
2:03:34Pat McAfee:What's going on out here?
2:03:36Adam Schefter:He's generals back in time.
2:03:38Pat McAfee:Let's go to the other half of the hammer. Dad! Cowboys, Bubba Gumpy. You know Gumpy? Who do you like? How do you like it? I love the Chiefs. They have the Super Bowl MVP. When the Chiefs run the ball, they're very good. They got the enemy back, too. I think this is a massive night for Mahomes and the boys. Okay, kind of a split group here. AJ, you're the one who's seeing the board very well. Obviously, we just saw that with your pick for the Sunday slate. Who do you like? How do you like him this evening? Chiefs favored by two and a half. Yeah, so you guys are trying to, I think, make me not trust my instincts.
2:04:12I'm trusting my instincts. My first thought here, I'm going Chiefs to cover, win, and go over. So, yeah.
2:04:19Pat McAfee:Who's trying to bully you, bro? I assumed some other guys would be on the Chiefs like I am. He's making picks, dickhead. Sorry, I thought we were just doing a television show over here. What I'm telling you. Everything's not about you, pal. He asked me my pick, so therefore I'm giving you my pick. Yeah, but you started attacking everybody. You know what you're trying to swing me? These guys are new. Trust your instincts, AJ. I like it. I'm trusting my instincts. AJ's running hot in Indianapolis. You are, brother. Calm down for yourself. So it's Gumpy, AJ, and D-Butch on the Chiefs, and then Tone in the toxic table, heavy on the Broncos.
2:05:01Pat McAfee:I like that split decision. I'll make mine Monday night count. Hell yeah. What time does that start? To be clear, before the game. I would imagine 6 o 'clock. 6 o 'clock. 6 o 'clock. 6 o 'clock. 6 o 'clock. Eastern, 5 o 'clock local. Let's remember that. Yeah, good call. Okay, had to do the – got to do, didn't have to do. All these things I'm very thankful to do. Did the kickoff game for – or kickoff show for Texas, Ohio State, right next to the biggest speaker of all time. I mean, I have. That was great. I have never seen a speaker that big operate that well. It was three feet – maybe four or five feet from my head just as we're doing that pre-show.
2:05:46Pat McAfee:But boy, I forgot we were on Central Time there. I'm hanging out in the bus. They got a bus for us there to hang out during the day so we can watch some games. We almost missed that thing. I mean, I'll tell you the hour difference was great. The only reason why I stayed and was there was to do kickoff show and halftime show. And then all of a sudden you don't take into account the Central Time, the Eastern Time. And it was like 20 minutes before that show started. And we were, ooh. We gotta go do this. We gotta certainly get rolling. We saw Oregon lose. We saw Michigan do its thing to Oklahoma.
2:06:16Pat McAfee:And then obviously with Texas, we're doing that fourth quarter against Ohio State. I think we all knew we were going to set us up for an incredible Sunday slate. I think what football has done for us over the last month or two has shown us that it's going to be good football. It's going to be electrifying. And we are very, very grateful and thankful for that. Now, with great football comes great expectations, but also great despair. This morning I sent a tweet out into the world asking NFL fans from around the league to let me hear how they feel. Let me be a therapy tweet for you. Now, you will not be judged for being dramatic.
2:06:52Pat McAfee:No, no. You'll actually be celebrated. All you gotta do is put in the tweet, uh, hashtag, I don't wanna overreact, but... It became a trend. We don't know what number. We weren't paying attention close enough because we are old in the game now. But we do appreciate everybody operating we appreciate football being so damn great and NFL fan base is being so passionate That this became a trending topic tie went through there and found some of his favorites. Let's dive into him First one here comes from debuts hashtag. I don't want to overreact It's time I get a new team which means one of the old ones are on the chopping block That sounds like Miami D but South Florida native Broward County Hall of Famer.
2:07:30Pat McAfee:Are you getting rid of Miami?
2:07:32Adam Schefter:What team are you thinking about dropping here? First of all, I'm glad you kind of joined the multiple team game, picking up the Seattle Seahawks as their NFC team. Very, very smart of you. Look, these teams got to earn it. I'm not going to let these guys just control my happiness for five, six months out of the year. So, Dolphins, no. They are on blood in, blood out. Since I moved to South Florida, about five years old, so 35 years. 25 plus of that. We've been waiting on a playoff win. But they're still in. Colts, football family since 2012. 2012, going to be there for life. Now, these other two, Chargers, Eagles, those are my other two teams.
2:08:05Adam Schefter:Wow. Look, two Super Bowl appearances. I love Jalen Hurts. I love Nick Sirianni. They're good with me. Oh, no. With those Chargers. I mean, it's just hope year in and year out. I love Justin Herbert. I love what he does. I love the talent. I love Jim Harbaugh. He's a football guy. Derwin James, all those guys. We went to the facility. Great hospitality. But they're out. They're out. I'm out on the Chargers, and I got to pick up an NFC team as well. I'm going with Caleb Williams, Ben Johnson, and the Indiana Bears out there. So that's my fourth squad. Just take the whole NFC North then. No, no, no.
2:08:42Adam Schefter:I got two. Now it's split. I got two AFC. Don't make a mockery out of this. Dolphins, Colts, and I got the Eagles and the Bears on the NFC side. So I'm almost guaranteed to have a good season, a good ending to my season. I'm going to have a couple of those guys in the playoffs. And look, the Dolphins, we're going through a little rebuild right now. But I'm in a good spot. But, you know, I encourage more of you out there to pick another team. And I've seen more people tweeting, and they're jumping on that bandwagon as well.
2:09:07Pat McAfee:I like that you say if I wanted high expectations and just disappointments, I mean, I just would have remained the Dolphins. Exactly. Why am I picking up another team that is going to brutalize my happiness for five months? I like the way it's looking. I think four teams might be too many. Just something to think about. It might be too many. Teacher, oh. Maybe not enough. Yeah, maybe. Maybe get eight. Who's to say? You know what? One of these teams here might win me over tonight. You're right. I didn't even think about picking up another AFC team, which I might have to do. Yeah, you might have to.
2:09:38Or just get 32.
2:09:39Pat McAfee:I think you probably should. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Long season. I'm not giving up on the Colts yet. Lamar looked good. Tell you what, I go into Saturdays with 138 teams, and it's awesome. I wish I could do that on Sundays. Yeah. Yeah, see, that's the difference. That's the difference. That's why you got to buy in. Okay, let's go to the next overreaction, shall we? Speaking of being a Colts fan, Bailey McComas is certainly one of those. Hashtag I don't want to overreact. But. There seems to be a lot of teams getting better after cleaning out stale, unsuccessful cultures and replacing them with new blood.
2:10:11Pat McAfee:Starting to feel like we are stuck in a sad, depressing loop in Circle City. Blow it up. Jeez Louise, this is what the guy tweeted me about the Thunderdome. A little bit serious, but I do appreciate him taking to his graphic designing abilities and showcasing what it should look like. What it should look like. It does appear to be a little bit of AI slop, but Bailey would say, I made this in 35 seconds to amplify my particular tweet. And we'd say, good on you. But, yeah, Bailey was in that suite with us yesterday. And I'll tell you, unless the Ravens are the best team in the history of ball, this might be a long year to be a Colts fan.
2:10:49Pat McAfee:But we got a lot of games left to turn this around, Bill. Let's not give up just yet, even though Zay Flowers had a career day, Lamar Jackson had a career day, and Derrick Henry had a career day, and Avol had very long careers. So it's certainly a tough start to the season, but let's not blow it up just yet. We got 16 more games. All right, let's go to the next overreaction, shall we? This one's from Cody, at Cody underscore HM. Hashtag, I don't want to overreact, but this Chargers team is shiked. Defense looks like a disaster. Harbaugh don't know what the fuck is going on. Deary offense line is still assing.
2:11:23Pat McAfee:Herbo is throwing meatball subs out there. Just keep showing Madison Beer. Miss Madison, it's a lot easier on the eyes. The Cardinals? I think a lot of people were bummed out, AJ, about what this Chargers was, but I think we're not giving enough respect to this Cardinals team and Mike LaFleur potentially. Yeah, I don't know if you saw, but they showed Mike LaFleur, his parents were in, I believe, in attendance, got to see their son get his first win as a head coach, so I think that should go for, you know, get a couple points, three or four points maybe with your parents there to see your first win, but also I understand what this seg is, and we've been doing it for a long time.
2:11:57I don't want to overreact, but this is kind of wild. We crown teams, and we absolutely cancel teams after week one. That's what we do. I get it. I'm just saying. I don't know. How about we wait four weeks? How about after four games? Whatever we're not doing that. Chargers might go on 17.
2:12:18Pat McAfee:Yeah, they might. Arizona Cardinals might go 17. 72 Dolphins. Look out. Mike LaFleur with his great hair. He's on the hunt. to be the second team to go completely undefeated in this entire thing. And it's hard not to do that. And, A.J., you know what? We'll put out our next episode four weeks from now. Yeah, there we go. Yeah, okay. Okay, we'll put out our next episode four weeks from now. That's what we'll do. Chargers did bum us out. I like that Cody had the same thoughts as D-Butt. D-Butt just cut them as one of his teams. Smart.
2:12:46Adam Schefter:Yeah, and I realized I followed Mike McDaniel there, too. So, yeah, they were already on thin ice. Yeah, there you go. yeah this guy running too he's running too much pistol and gun yeah
2:13:01Pat McAfee:put the weapons down dan orlovsky said put the guns down put them under center that's what everybody else is doing let's go to the next every reaction this one's from joey kennedy at joey kennedy uh the fourth there's been three others before hashtag i don't want to overreact but But between electrical substation, superstars hiding on IR, and Drew Locke, there's only one team in the NFC West who's worth a damn. The Arizona Cardinals are winning the best division in football. They're certainly undefeated. Con man, why not the Arizona Cardinals? There's a lot of reasons, but why not the Arizona Cardinals here on this particular Every Action Monday?
2:13:39There's plenty of reasons, and you can believe all those, or you can believe that the Arizona Cardinals have one of the most electrifying offenses in all football. I mean, really, when you think about how it was last year, it felt like they were in every game for the most part. You know, of course they got blown out and they had to come back and they had to throw the ball a lot, but they're in games. Trey McBride, Marvin Harrison Jr., Jeremiah Love now, Michael Wilson, who Dan O. loved, and then Jacoby Brissett. Jacoby Brissett was spinning the pill yesterday and he wasn't really doing anything wrong.
2:14:07It feels like Michael Floor does have those guys going in the right direction. I can't believe I love the Arizona Cardinals as much as I do right now. but I'm genuinely hoping they can go on and win at least seven, eight games because it would be a really cool story. And also just coming into the year, everyone assumed that they might sneak away with about three wins and then for them to go and upset the Chargers is just the epitome of why NFL Sundays are so awesome. And I'm just so glad that happened yesterday.
2:14:35Pat McAfee:Yeah, Michael LaFleur might be a really good coach. There's a chance Michael LaFleur is a really good coach. And he got Jacoby Brissett on a very friendly deal. If he's going to be a starting quarterback, They could do some things with that rush. Let's go to the next overreaction. This one's from AJ underscore three Ramirez. What's up, AJ? Hashtag, I don't want to overreact, but cowboy season's over. They fucking feed us hope all offseason saying Christian Parker is a savior for the Cowboys. And they go out there and let Cam fucking Scadaboo run down our throats all game. Front office, ass. DC, ass.
2:15:12Pat McAfee:Ass. Head coach, ass. I've given up. I don't like this out of AJD, bud. He's given up on Shoddy and everybody already after one game?
2:15:21Adam Schefter:I mean, I'm sure that's been loud in the Cowboys world because everybody was talking about the narrative was. It's been quiet out there. It's been quiet. They're just playing football. George Pickens is quiet. They're running extra sprints while the teams are walking off. We spent some time with Shoddy. We were howling him as well. And they came out late and absolute egg. I remember everything DB may have been last year, maybe the year before, where they had a four-boxer up last year first time. They might have another one coming this week after that two-minute drive with Jackson Dart. And Jackson Dart looked tremendous, but there were guys running wide-ass open.
2:15:53Adam Schefter:And, yeah, very, very disappointing start for Christian Parker. Everybody's been hiring him. I am as well. I think they'll get better as the weeks go on. But I think this is a warranted reaction or overreaction for week one for sure when you talk about those Cowboys.
2:16:07Pat McAfee:Has Jerry Jones got on the microphone yet? I need it. I haven't seen it. I need it. I don't think so. I need it right now. He might be trying to find that honey hole six miles deep still and not even know what happened to that game. But, you know, he said once I get my eyes on these guys, I might want to make some big fish hunting. You know, I might want to go big game hunting. Might make some new trades. Lose to the Giants opening night. Will that change anything for Jerry Jones and the Cowboys? We shall see. Let's go to the next overreaction. This is from Joseph Bruner at J.C. Bruner. Middle name Charles.
2:16:38Pat McAfee:Joseph Charles. They used to call him Chuck as a boy. He wore number 99, obviously paid his respects. Hashtag I don't want to overreact. But the Giants are winning the division. Eagles look as soft as the team they beat in the Commanders, and the Cowgirls' defense is same old. Malik is going to be healthier, likely look nuts, and the defense for the Giants can finally stop the run. Go, G-Men. Go, G-Men. Go. Bruce, is this how you're all feeling about potentially the Giants going on a run in the NFC East this year? Absolutely. The John Harbaugh Giants are as serious as a heart attack. They are an absolute problem, and I think we actually will win the NFC East and be a legitimate contender.
2:17:15It was night and day. It's just a bona fide operation with Ricard and Scadaboo running all over everybody. It started really on the fourth and inches. Dak tries to draw us off sides. We don't jump. They get a delay game, punt the ball away, and then it ends on third and nine with just a perfect conversion to Isaiah Likely to close things out. It was just really a perfect start to the John Harbaugh era. and just excited to see where it goes.
2:17:43Pat McAfee:Good for you guys getting a chance to experience this. John Harbaugh brought in a toughness, and it seems like an execution level the Giants haven't had in a long time. AJ, you buying the Giants? Are you buying what Bruce is selling after one night against Dallas? I mean, I'm not going to crown them Super Bowl champs this early, but, yeah, I definitely think there's something to it. I think Harbaugh brought what they're looking for, and hopefully they can ride this momentum. But, man, Scadaboo and Ricard, like, I am a huge fan of that. I love Ricard and what he's able to do. So, yeah, we'll see.
2:18:11I don't know how many wins that equates to, but, yeah, I like the Giants right now.
2:18:15Pat McAfee:All right. Well, I like that AJ hates Overreaction Monday. Yeah, what the fuck? What? What the fuck? This has been going on for years, guys. What is going on? Yeah, we're looking forward to it. Wake up. Nothing new. I'm just trying. Well, I understand. Crowd him. Overreaction Monday is about. Crowd him. Do you understand, though? Do you fucking understand? Because it sounds like you don't. The more irrational, the better for Overreaction Monday. Bingo. I get it. Yeah. So where are you, pal? I get it. God, man. I just said I agreed with old whoever the last guy that made that X account, that tweet.
2:18:48Pat McAfee:Yeah, but then you did a full, I don't like us doing it. It's like, this is what we're doing. Okay? This is what we're doing.
2:18:57Adam Schefter:What's your overreaction, AJ? Yeah, let's hear it. It's a great one. I was tired of other overreactions. I mean, honestly, you kind of read my mind right there. Like, I'm guilty of it myself. I watched these games yesterday, and I was in my brain. I wasn't crowning people, but I was definitely canceling some teams. Who'd you cancel? Who'd you cancel? I didn't cancel. Okay, over the options with A.J. Hawk. Yes. Okay, I'm not canceling the Tennessee Titans. I'm saying I'm disappointed in their showing, in their week ones. Does that make sense? No, you just said you canceled them. You just said you canceled them.
2:19:25No, I absolutely did not. I expected Cam Ward to have a bigger day. I expected the defense to hold up a little bit more with Robert Sala. I think they'll find a way to be all right. I just have no idea what that might be. And also, you know what? I kind of crowned the Bengals in my head. I did kind of crown them. Okay, here we go. I said the Bengals' defense were scoring on D, were getting turnovers, and Joe Burrow didn't even play great, as Dano said, and they get a win. So here we go.
2:19:47Pat McAfee:Yeah, okay, so you thought that as well. You were waiting for Olovka to say it so then you could say that he said it, but you crowned the Bengals and you canceled the Titans. Wow, it sounds like you're not reasonable at all. This is disgusting. Are you saying what they're saying about Dayball?
2:20:00Adam Schefter:They're saying about Dayball. What did they say? He's just killing quarterbacks. Daniel Jones had him looking shitty. Oh, no. Who was the last? Jackson Dart, he looks like a brand-new quarterback. Cam Ward, he's taking steps back. Are you canceling Dayball, too? I can't cancel Dayball. That's what it sounds like you're doing.
2:20:16Pat McAfee:A little bit of a reaction. It's got some good football. One week. It's got some good football. I was watching football yesterday, guys. I feel like Dano right now. I really do. Wake up. Come on. Was it awesome? It was. Yesterday was a awesome day. This is Clyde the Glide Seaman at CCeman137633. Obviously an interesting name for this guy. I'm sure he's mentally tough and has had to go through a lot. Hashtag I don't want to overreact. But. Now Ty picked these, so let's remember that. The Packers are dead. End of story. The cheese has been shredded by the Carson Wentz experience. And good old boy, Maka, ain't going to be enough to save it.
2:20:58Pat McAfee:Pack it on up, LaFleur. It's over. Are you putting LaFleur's on LaFleur? is grave right now, Ty Schmidt? Is that what the Packers fans are doing? A lot of people are. Part of me would definitely like to do that. It's tough to do that because they just gave him a brand new extension in January. I'm just sick and tired of the same old goddamn song and dance every single game, every single year, and then expecting a different – all you hear about, hey, this Packers team, they're so young, they're so talented, and then they get embarrassed in the playoffs. They lose games like this. So I'm not sounding the alarm yet.
2:21:35I'm not going to say they're dead. That's what, you know, Clyde Seaman thinks. I'm not going to say that quite yet. But I'll tell you what, they better have a much better showing against the Jets. And now, like, you know, three weeks ago, I'm thinking, okay, they'll beat the Vikings. They'll go into New York. They'll beat the dog shit out of the Jets. And we'll be, you know, we'll be just fine. We're closer to Micah getting better than they have the Falcons after that. But now this turns into, hey, you better not only just go out and win. You better look damn good against the Jets because, boy, was that a piss poor viewing experience.
2:22:06And I am very worried about that O-line. Very, very worried. They can't block anybody.
2:22:11Pat McAfee:Okay, so maybe LaFleur is around for a while, but maybe they need to reimagine what the Packers are if they want to get to the promised land. I would not just be sleeping on the Jets. I don't think that's certainly something. I'm not. I know the Titans look like ass, but there was a team that had to make them look like that. But incredibly impressed with Aaron Glenn getting a chance to have a successful moment in the locker room afterwards. Good for them. Maybe they continue to win some games and have some happiness as the Giants potentially look very dominant. Okay, let's go to the next one. This one's from David Crappenschitz.
2:22:42Pat McAfee:He's feeling fake things. I know. At sports fan underscore BAL, Baltimore fan. Hashtag I don't want to overreact. but the Ravens have their guy and head coach Jesse Minter is the second coming of Mike McDonald spelled his name wrong and will lead the Ravens to the Super Bowl Lamar will win his third MVP and Derrick Henry will go down as the greatest running back of all time hashtag Minter ball D-butt we watched it yeah I agree there's a chance I mean there's a hundred percent chance with this Ravens team with how good they looked and efficient they looked against Colts yeah hard
2:23:14Adam Schefter:to disagree doesn't sound like an overreaction at all Minter he's been a great coach we saw him in Michigan, I think Rose Bowl, and then they went on to win the national championship with Harbaugh, and he went to the Chargers. They look great, and now he's the head man in Baltimore. We talked a bunch about Declan Doyle today. I know it was only one game, and we think the coach's defense is at least decent or average, at least I do. So for that outing, Zay Flowers obviously has to be healthy. He's a big, big part of their passing game, but I said it earlier, that Kobe and Shaq thing, that is a great comparison.
2:23:45Adam Schefter:You think about Lamar Jackson and how he can beat you with his athleticism and his awareness and accuracy, everything from the pocket. And then Derrick Henry can just pound you, especially as games go on. So, yeah, if I was a Ravens fan, I'd be flying high right now. I was close. I was this close to becoming a Ravens fan. This close. I think you still might get there. Me too. Me too. This close. No, you already submitted your flag. Yeah, you got the flag.
2:24:08Pat McAfee:I can't cut anybody. Is four of the max amount we're about to have? Yeah, that's max.
2:24:13Adam Schefter:I mean, five is ridiculous. Is this a cutoff? And out of respect to Jay Dane, of course. Yeah.
2:24:19Pat McAfee:Smart. Thank you for doing that, honestly. That's very kind of you. Tough loss for them. Is David Blyle the guy? I didn't know. I mean, maybe there's a kid. We won. I mean, he was great on Thanksgiving at one time. I remember watching him do his thing. So, I assume he's great. They need to put that gunner in the game and have him start catching passes instead. Can we please run that? I should know his name. Tyler. Tyler Owens sorry mr. Owens I should remember this Tyler Owens you know this because I assume a lot of people have told you I would sacrifice and cut some things off of my body to have this guy as your gunner I mean look at we got right there into a stiff arms into another one is two pancakes into a spine buster I mean this guy is everything you would want as a special team or as a teammate for a punter as a gunner it's just like the perseverance the resistance, the grit, the athleticism, the strength and the fortitude.
2:25:17Pat McAfee:Bang! And in that, I would cut off half of a finger. I would cut off half a finger if I was still a partner to have this guy as your gunner. Now, will he be able to survive all season? Because obviously they're going to double and triple team him and he might get caught up in stuff. We shall see. But that's a special rep. That is a special dude. And that is a special message you send to the rest of that locker room about who you are, what you are. I loved, I mean, that's a left jab. Garcia. Garcia right to the face. Boom, Garcia to Ben. And then a spine buster as if he's Arn Anderson to finish that thing.
2:25:49Pat McAfee:It was just – it was an outrageous rep. And I can't believe the Philadelphia Eagles have that on their tape as well, D-Bot.
2:25:54Adam Schefter:Pat, you know, if you go back to the beginning of that vice, first of all, it's two-on-ones. Can you pause it real quick? Oh, he crossed it. It's two-on-ones. So as grown men, we got to win this matchup 10 times out of 10. Now, on the outside, you have a cornerback, 31. On the inside, I've been a part of vice a ton. I fucking hated being in a vice with a wide receiver. They got low-ass number 80 in there. Let it run. You see what happens. First takes a bad angle inside. Boom, get out of here, local. Throw him off you. He gets back in there. Give him a little step for, are you back? Boom. See ya.
2:26:24Adam Schefter:Got him again with the left. Then he, boom, your ass too. And then get there to finish. Just unbelievable effort, man. We've been watching the league, playing the league for a long time. It's only a handful of these guys that you see. The first guy that comes to my mind is like Osgood, that big wide receiver. I think he played for Detroit and maybe the Chargers, some other teams. like these guys changed the math and obviously changed field position. This rep we played league-wide at special teams meeting. This is effort. This is how you finish. And, yeah, I can understand how you'll cut something off to have this guy on your punch.
2:26:55Pat McAfee:Yeah. Yeah, Slater, you go in the history of special teams. You start going through like this tape is special, man. And the rest of the team sees that. Dan Quinn's got to see that. And the left hand right to the guy's shoulder and face just to put him on the ground. and you say soft, thin, wide receiver who has no idea what he's doing here. He, no mouthpiece, just kind of comes cruising over too. Like, ah, let me come take a look-see here. Whatever, he comes back over top and just catching it. Watch him, because not only does he get thrown off, he's like, all right, I'm going to catch up to him.
2:27:26Pat McAfee:Casual, casual. Let me go ahead and get to him, no problem. Bang. Yeah, right, kid. Get out of here, dude. That's tough tape. Tough tape. Eagles are going to have to get back. But on the other side, Tyler Owens, thank you for your service to Ball Pal. Okay, let's get to the next overreaction. This one's from Alfred Simon. Hashtag, I don't want to overreact. But. Starting my 10th season as a Cleveland Bronze fan from Europe. And picking this destiny myself, I'm 100 % sure I'll never see this team play competitive football. We had a small win during the Baker era when we made the playoffs, but that's about it.
2:28:00Pat McAfee:I beg Archie Manning and others to never come here and ruin their life. We are fucked. Alfred. Alfred kind of gets the American culture at some. Yeah. Feels like he kind of gets it. Alfred, that is on you. 100%. And also, Alfred, I don't know if you've seen what we've done here today. You can pick a new team. Yeah. You can pick a new team, Alfred. Nobody will even know if you never tweet about it. Trevor Lawrence could have his best year. The Jacksonville Jaguars could be a real problem. But the Cleveland Browns certainly look like ass. And I don't think anybody's necessarily pumped up about that, including international fans who chose this fate.
2:28:33Pat McAfee:Conman, that's kind of on them. Don't you think Alfred Simon kind of, I don't want to say like, woe is me, but you signed up for this from internet across the pond. That sounds like an Alfred Simon problem con me. Yeah, it feels like Alfred Simon is the dumbest son of a bitch I've ever seen. I cannot believe 10 years ago he decided to pick the Browns. It's not as if they were coming off some good years or something like that. So maybe there's a backstory where he's an Oklahoma Sooner fan or something. So he decided to follow Baker. You have to pick a new team. I mean, watching the Cleveland Browns play football, it made me uncomfortable.
2:29:08It made me feel bad for Deshaun, for their fans, for people who are even Jags fans who have to go watch half of the game being Cleveland Browns football. I want Munkin to do well so, so bad just because of his moxie, but it just doesn't feel possible in Cleveland. If you are a Browns fan, I feel like as a Patriots fan or another team's fan, you should give grace to Browns fans and let them leave their fanhood. And if they do it, don't shit talk them. Just understand that it was necessary and that they shouldn't be rooting for the Cleveland Browns ever again because it is a miserable watch.
2:29:43Pat McAfee:Yeah, it certainly is. And, I mean, I guess Chargers fans are feeling the same. Remember, D-Butt left the Chargers fan base to join the Chicago Bears fan base. This one's from Hoochell Williams at Hitchcock 2013. Hashtag I don't overreact but Ben Johnson is a football wizard Caleb Williams is winning MVP We have the greatest running back tandem in NFL history And you just watch the first game of the greatest season of Chicago Bears football Hashtag Super Bowl champions hashtag bear dad hashtag dub bears shout to Zito Did you guys see that steak Zito ate last night? Yeah up for him I'm pumped up for Bears fans They gave up a lot of points They did I mean they gave up a lot of points But if Ben Johnson is expecting to be the highest scoring offense in the history of the NFL, he said we're cool with winning 49-47 if that's what it needs to be.
2:30:28Pat McAfee:I don't worry about that. We're going to worry about the offensive side. Foxy saw this offense with the Detroit Lions. Now it's starting to look like this down there. Roman Dunze is making a catch of the year here this early. I like the Chicago Bears just as much as everybody else. And I don't think any of us expected it to look like this and then have Caleb Williams say that's the worst we're going to have. D-Butt, good for you picking up a new team.
2:30:48Adam Schefter:Yeah, you know what? we did expect this because our head coach he told us what to expect. He wants not only Super Bowl, he wants record. Don't worry, our head coach. Don't worry about Z either. House and stakes every week. We got a workout plan and we're starting today after the show so he'll be good this season. We'll be great this season but yeah, you got the head coach, you got a running back tandem, you got special wide outs, you got Coaster Loveland who was quiet this week so he'll wake up. I mean, you look at a team and you think about being a fan, you look at the ownership group. For me, as you know, I live in Indiana part-time.
2:31:20Adam Schefter:I'm a close one. Coach, you take the identity of your head coach? Yeah. Quarterback? Oh, he's on the cover, man. He's cooler and tougher this year. Faster. I'm all in on the Bears.
2:31:30Pat McAfee:Bear die. Yeah, his mustache is spectacular, especially for Chicago. Yeah, I see you giving up the Bears sign. You're all in. Let's go to the next one here. This one's from Nate Brown at Nathan A. Brown. Oh, yeah, Nate. Nine. Hashtag, I don't want to overreact, but the Buffalo Bills are the greatest team to take the field in the NFL. Well, parenthesis, if you ignore the defense, parenthesis, and Josh Allen's daughter's DNA test is officially back. She's half alien. That's right. Josh Allen is an alien. I do believe that. He has become the blueprint. Him and Lamar Jackson, both. Are you going to win a Super Bowl?
2:32:01Pat McAfee:Are you going to win a Super Bowl? Are you going to win a Super Bowl? Felt like Josh Allen felt great yesterday in that run. Joe Brady, obviously now head coach and offensive coordinator. I love watching Josh Allen play football. And the Houston Texans take an L to Josh Allen at home. First time that has taken place. AJ, is Josh Allen's daughter part alien? I mean, I guess that is the ultimate compliment, right? Saying that your dad is a, well, wouldn't she be like a quarter? Because Josh can't be full alien. He's got to be a hybrid. He's got to be half, right? We don't know. We don't know. I guess we don't know.
2:32:31He could be full alien. A shapeshifter, as they say. I've heard people say that before. With DJ Moore and Dalton Kincaid, man, like Josh Allen, it's a scary offense to think about trying to stop. I think they can play like an old, we know Buffalo is going to get cold eventually. They can play in all elements. There's some offenses, I think, that might slow down a bit as we see the seasons pass and it gets colder and windier and rainy, all that stuff. I think this Bills team is built to last. Let's just see if that defense can hold teams to maybe under about 28 or so.
2:33:00Pat McAfee:Yeah. Well, Buffalo Bills on Thursday night, obviously the home opener for Highmark Stadium. Can't wait to see how they bounce, not bounce back, or continue to go after the Houston Texans win. Last one here as we wrap up on this glorious overreaction Monday. you're underground man at NC Parker 73 I'm seeing people pop up out of what are they doing down there? I don't know I thought Notion's 11 because they were taking out the power grid because they needed to get hashtag I don't want to overreact but but what you saw yesterday from the Bengals is still is them still another year getting off to a slow start the NFL isn't ready for what this team is going to become once October gets here Wow.
2:33:44Pat McAfee:Maybe what he's saying is that was a bad, bad game for our Bengals. This is kind of normal for us. We don't play good early. We get better as we go later. Baker Mayfield got abused yesterday, had some turnovers, and the Cincinnati Bengals get a gigantic, gigantic dub to start the season in which they normally would lose. The Bengals suck in the beginning of the seasons. They've always had to play catch up, catching a dub no matter how close or how tough it looks. good things for the Bengals. And, A.J., you said that they're all the way back. You said one of the things, one of your reactions, that the Bengals maybe win the Super Bowl this year.
2:34:17Pat McAfee:That's what you said. I don't know if I said those exact words. You did. You did. I did not mention Super Bowl. You crowned them. Yes, you did. I usually don't use the Super Bowl after week one a whole lot, but they're definitely one of the times that has a chance. You said that. This is great. They usually start out like 0-4, 0-5, or 1-4, so here we go. This is a great start for the Bengals. You said crown them. You said you crown them. I said crown them. I didn't say they're going to win the Super Bowl. That's what crown them mean. If you're the king, you wear a crown. I'm not saying crown them anymore then.
2:34:45Sorry. And you said day ball sucks. That's what you said. Never.
2:34:48Pat McAfee:You said both these things. That's our reaction Monday in a nutshell. All right, we appreciate you guys so much for allowing us to do this for a living. Tonight at 6 o 'clock Eastern, Monday Night Countdown, kicks off the opening of Monday Night Football season. obviously as the Kansas City Chiefs play host to the Denver Broncos. This is about to be the biggest and best season yet. With obviously the Super Bowl February 14th in Los Angeles on ESPN. It is an honor to be a part of tonight's festivities, I guess, as a whole. Monday Night Countdown will be considered festivities of the Monday Night Football game, right?
2:35:27Pat McAfee:Definitely. Yep. Yes. It's an honor to be a part of the festivities. I'm very thankful. I'm very pumped for the opportunity. and hopefully we will do ball justice and hopefully I can join a team that's ready to have the biggest and best season yet. To the boys back in the Thunderdome, thank you. Great work on this every action. Hey, have fun out there.
2:35:45Adam Schefter:That's right. That's right.
2:35:46Pat McAfee:Go get them. That's right. That's right. I'm going to have fun out here. To the crew here that built this setup here in the Foolish Lounge, great work. Obviously, nobody at home that's watching would really know this. About seven minutes before the show went live, we didn't really have any connection to the Thunderdome at all. They started doing a lot of stuff over here with a lot of conversations, and they figured it out. We appreciate the hell out of you guys. Great work. We'll see you next week. And to the boys in the back, great work. Foxy, Bruce, Nick, Gumpsh, Garty. Good show, boys. The graphic design boys, fresh new face.
2:36:19Pat McAfee:Ty, thoughts on D-Bone's face? Yeah, I was shocked, perplexed. It honestly took my breath away. And then it was kind of weak. Because he looks so good. I saw a picture from Rex Ryan in, like, 2011 when he was coaching the Jets, and I was looking at Bone, and I was getting the two of them confused. I didn't know which. But you know what? He looks good. He looks darn good. Victory Monday for him, too. You know, his Buffalo Bills got a huge win yesterday. Yeah, I think this is the photo you're potentially referring to, and I don't know if Rex would necessarily love this photo. It was a different one.
2:36:55Yeah. You probably know what I'm getting at here. It was a little bit more prominent in the picture I was looking at. What was it? The Jets hat? Yeah, the Jets hat. Oh.
2:37:06Pat McAfee:Yep. Sure. The Jets hat was more prominent? Yeah. More head-on. Yeah, more head-on, if you will. Do we have a picture of D-Bone of what he looks like? Or is he around? D-Bone, why don't you come on? Yeah, D-Bone, come on out. Hey, D-Bone! Have you seen Dune, the guy that lives in the mud? Baron Von Harkin. My Dune. I've not seen it. Is he done walking to Mordor yet? Oh, my God. You look good, buddy. I think you look really good. What is that? Oh, cool. What is that? Keep coming. Why are you stopping? Is that Rosie O'Donnell? Whoa. Rosie O'Donnell. I understand the question. Hey, Bone, you look good, Bone.
2:37:43Pat McAfee:Okay? You look really good. Don't let them judge you like that. Now, on that note, I was startled to see his face the way he looked. I did. Yesterday, he showed up at the Colts game like that, and we were all pretty bewildered. Pat said he almost threw up. He looks like you're 17 years old. He said you got to do 10 push-ups. I didn't say that. You could probably do 15 easy. Who said that? Are you guys saying I said that? That's what he said. I did not say that. I didn't say that. We don't need anybody dying on this show. So are you going to grow back out? A cartwheel, Pat? Come on. You want to do a cartwheel?
2:38:14Pat McAfee:You want to dunk? You want to jump step dunk? Don't do that. But he said you could keep your bra on if you do a cartwheel. I mean, come on. Get the fuck out of here. Oh, that way. He wants to go that way. No, no, no cartwheel. Just get out of here. Chance the stage collapses if he doesn't. He said he – Hit the fucking brakes, kid. Go back. Go back, Bo. Thank you. Jeez Louise. What are you guys trying to do, boys? That was cold, guys. 10 push-ups? He's walking to Mordor. He's three-quarters of the way to Mordor. Three-quarters. No, he's nowhere near three-quarters to Mordor. I don't know how far that walk is.
2:38:48Pat McAfee:It's 1 ,800 miles. Foxy brought up a good point. But Foxy did wonder if, because he has been walking a mordor like four or five days now, he's done the treadmill. If Foxy was like, do you think maybe he thought under his beard because he has been on the treadmill four or five days? Like, hey. You know what I mean? There's no way. Maybe he wanted to see because he thought he had. Right, Foxy? I had not thought of that until you mentioned it. Let's just say this is a theory that could be possible because he has told me he's been working really hard. and he's lost a lot of weight. I'm actually very proud of him.
2:39:25So I'm like, new weight. He has. A new body bone might think he has a jawline under there. There's a reason I have a beard.
2:39:33Pat McAfee:It's to have a fake jawline. So I just want Bone to know that if that was the case, don't ever do that again. Well, Tone has fallen for this as well, where Tone thought he was in much better shape than maybe his jaw thought that it was, and he's gone for it. It's just any time you change what you look like mightily, It's going to be a topic of conversation. I think Bone knew that. I think he was really rolling the dice with what that face was, but we're thankful he did that. We're thankful he did that. Live and you learn. And we like that he's getting after it to more doors. Hell yeah. All right.
2:40:04Pat McAfee:Be a friend, tell a friend something nice. It might change your life. We're in this thing together. Shout out to Gumps, by the way. You're doing great, Gumps. Baby, Gumps. Gumps. Sweet headphones. Wiggle, huggle. You do have sweet headphones. Miami's doing pretty good, huh? A couple rookies played well. Caleb Douglas, Jacob Rodriguez led the team in tackles. So, you know, the young guns were playing well. Who was available to draft maybe when you guys decided not to draft? Ooh, a lot of guys, yeah. A lot of guys were out there. Like Caleb Dons, was he available? Yeah, he looked very good last night.
2:40:37Proctologist, didn't look offensive line. He's a dog.
2:40:41Pat McAfee:Yeah, there's a chance. He is unbelievable. Good for you, Gumps. Way to stick with the Miami Dolphins, even though you were international and picked them and had your fate. And why'd your dad pick the Dolphins again? Middle linebacker, Rick Bonacani. Nick Bonacani, come on. No, it was Rick. My dad called him Rick. Listen, shout out to Jen Beer. Shout out to everybody. Hey, we appreciate you so much. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice. It might change your life. We're in this thing together. AJ, safe travels back to Ohio. Six o 'clock Eastern tonight, Monday night countdown. Hopefully we're setting the stage for the greatest Monday night football game of all time, which is certainly possible.
2:41:13Pat McAfee:What a start for the NFL. What a continuation for college football. We're so lucky to be a part of it. I'll be back tomorrow in the Thunderdome. What a time that'll be. We're in this thing together. Let's never forget that. Team on me. Team on three. Football's back, baby. One, two, three. Team. Goodbye. Nationwide is so much more than a great insurance company. They're one of America's largest financial services companies. Just like I'm so much more than quarterback Peyton Manning. I'm also Peyton Manning. insurance and financial services together, it's a masterpiece. Peyton Manning does it again.
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On today’s show Pat is LIVE from Kansas City ahead of tonight's Broncos vs. Chiefs MNF game as DBut, AJ Hawk, and the boys are back in the ThunderDome overreacting to Week 1 of the NFL and they bounce around the internet for some of the biggest overreactions. Joining the progrum is ESPN Senior NFL Insider Adam Schefter to give his thoughts on the first NFL Sunday of the season, injury updates on Zay Flowers, Myles Garrett, AJ Brown, and more about Joey Porter Jr. and the steelers contract discussions. Next, 12 year NFL veteran and ESPN NFL Analyst, Dan Orlovsky goes over Quarterback performances from the weekend and provides his thoughts on the overall play of teams. Lastly, Chairman and CEO of the Kansas City Chiefs, Clark Hunt, talks about his excitement for the season, tonight’s matchup, Patrick Mahomes recovery and his impact on this Chiefs team. Make sure to subscribe to www.youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (noon–2 p.m. EDT), ESPN’s YouTube channel (noon–3 p.m. EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers.
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