#126: Josh Goldy: The Biggest Superpower In A World Of Chaos

24 Feb 2026 · 1 h 8 min · 23 chapters

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In short

Toxic positivity vs authenticity; living in the present to beat anxiety/depression; discipline over motivation; trauma as fuel; avoiding “flashy life” dopamine traps; building confidence through keeping promises; managing distractions (opportunity, women).

Guest

Josh Goldy. Fitness/entrepreneur and public figure (mentions being on Love Island; says his sister signed him up). He says his sister died at 23 from a blood clot, which reshaped his mission to help people through fitness and vulnerability. He promotes gratitude and purpose, and says he doesn’t enjoy gym workouts but values the outcome. He lives in Miami and frames it as an opportunity-rich environment for young entrepreneurs.

Key claims

Toxic positivity can be beneficial when it’s not inauthentic; anxiety comes from future-thinking, depression from past-thinking. Presence is the “superpower,” supported by repeatable morning routines. Self-confidence = doing what you say you’ll do over time; confidence differs from ego. Trauma is inevitable; choose to use it as fuel. Social media and flashy lifestyles can increase anxiety and comparison.

Notable examples

Sister’s death; “finish what she started” mission; “spinning rock” reminder; extreme time-horizon example for skipping the gym; “opportunity” and “overfull plate” distraction metaphor.

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Chapters

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Toxic Positivity and Its Impact

0:03 to 2:15

Discussion on toxic positivity and its role in combating negativity in the world.

“What are your thoughts on toxic positivity?”

Finding Balance in Positivity

2:15 to 4:21

Exploration of finding the right level of positivity without questioning authenticity.

“It's about seeing the good, even though it's messy and you can't quite see it.”

Living in the Present

4:21 to 7:08

The importance of being present to avoid depression from the past and anxiety from the future.

“happy about look at where we are right now.”

Overcoming Trauma and Finding Purpose

7:08 to 11:14

Josh shares his personal story of trauma, loss, and how it shaped his mission to help others.

“So, you know, I think that trauma is really inevitable, like in everybody's life, it's going to happen at some point, some way or another.”

Gratitude and Appreciation for Life

11:14 to 14:00

Discussing the value of gratitude and appreciating life's opportunities.

“And I think that, like I said before, trauma is inevitable.”

The Importance of Perspective

14:00 to 16:40

Learn how to shift your perspective on everyday opportunities to cultivate gratitude.

“I get to, you know, talk to my best friends.”

Discipline Over Motivation

16:40 to 19:10

Understand the role of discipline in achieving long-term fitness goals despite a lack of enjoyment.

“and you know that if you don't go to the gym and you don't go to the gym and you don't go to the gym and you keep not going to the gym, you're going to be a fat piece of shit.”

The Nature of Self-Confidence

19:10 to 21:40

Discover how self-confidence is built through consistency and understanding oneself.

“And so if we look at self-confidence, what I actually think it is, is knowing who you are.”

Reflections on Environment and Inspiration

21:40 to 24:10

Explore how living in an inspiring environment like Miami affects personal ambition and growth.

“actually matters and you know when we first hopped on a call there was a part of me that went i don't like this miami thing i don't like this this like uh this like showy thing and that was like prime peak.”

Expanding Horizons Through Experience

24:10 to 28:00

Learn the value of exposure to new environments and ideas in personal development.

“I like to use it in an example of your fitness journey because I think fitness is easy to relate to every other aspect of your life.”
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The Flashy Life Epidemic

28:00 to 30:09

Explore the concept of living for appearances rather than fulfillment.

“And I think Miami would do that for someone.”

Finding True Fulfillment

30:09 to 34:18

Discuss the importance of seeking meaning beyond material achievements.

“to then X, Y, and Z, X, Y, and Z, X, Y, and Z.”

Embracing Vulnerability and Connection

34:18 to 36:48

Understand the significance of being open and vulnerable in personal growth.

“But equally, how awesome is being able to be okay with where you're at?”

Navigating Trauma and Moving Forward

36:48 to 42:01

Learn how to process trauma and use it as motivation rather than a crutch.

“Obviously, I have so much more things I want to accomplish.”

Facing Trauma: The Choice of Perspective

42:01 to 43:25

Learn how to transform trauma into personal growth by choosing perspective.

“You can talk about the problem, but when your alarm goes off the next morning, you get up and you go to the gym and you keep back on your mission.”

Distractions: Opportunities vs. Relationships

43:25 to 46:34

Explore the balance between seizing opportunities and managing distractions in relationships.

“And I said, are you a hero or a villain?”

The Dilemma of Commitment

46:34 to 49:06

Understand the challenges of commitment in relationships and the impact of distractions.

“So you say no to most, but you still say yes to too many.”

Finding Freedom in Connection

49:06 to 53:43

Discover how to achieve freedom within a committed relationship and its importance.

“Oh, I've, um, I've had too many of those experiences with the wrong people that I thought were the right people.”

Current Season: Building Towards Goals

53:43 to 56:00

Learn about the importance of focusing on building and pursuing core values in life.

“And so freedom in the short term is the commitment phase of when we're trying to commit to this person.”

Finding Peace in Purpose

56:00 to 57:25

Discover how embracing your core values leads to fulfillment.

“a little bit more less opportunist mindset in my life, seasons of grieving.”

Navigating Friendships During Growth

57:25 to 59:16

Learn about the challenges of maintaining friendships while pursuing personal growth.

“that's really one of the key goals knowing you're capable but not feeling like you need to yeah That could stop the chase.”

Defining True Friendship

59:16 to 1:02:18

Explore the importance of understanding what real friendship means in a changing life.

“I think that I've really thought about the term friendship more in the last four years than I did in the first 24 of my life.”

Embracing Opportunities and Family

1:02:18 to 1:07:18

Understand how to balance new opportunities with family priorities and personal growth.

“It's chapters with every single leap that you take because you grow away from old friends into new groups of friends.”
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Transcript

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0:00Josh Goldy, welcome to the show. Thank you for having me, brother. I appreciate it. What are your thoughts on toxic positivity? So many people view it, I feel like, as a negative in this world, like toxic positivity. But I think it's a positive thing because I honestly think that we live in a world right now that is so overly negative. And you can see what's happening in the world right now, obviously, right? The United States is burning down as we know it. And I think it stems from people's insecurities being portrayed onto other people. and people literally just being so negative within their life.

0:32And I think if more people are just toxically positive, in my opinion, even when things aren't going good for them, right? Nobody's life is perfect. Like my life's not perfect. My relationships aren't perfect. I'm not perfect every day. But I believe that I can be perfect in a toxic way. And I think that I exude that positive energy. And I believe you are the five closest people that you hang out with. They say that all the time, but it's good or bad, right? in a negative way or a positive way. And I think what's happening in our world right now is a real, you know, product of just like people being so negative with views and negative with, you know, people and negative with themselves.

1:11Like I think if more people believed in themselves in a positive way that you can accomplish anything that you put your mind to, then I think that the world can be a better place because everyone will feel like they have equal opportunity. I mean, we live in a world right now, Chris, that like, we have so much opportunity at our fingertips. And I think that this well me mentality or this, you know, negative mentality of like, oh, well, this happened to me. So I can't do this. Or, you know, I grew up with this type of culture, this type of family, so I can never amount to this. It's like, fuck that.

1:42You know what I mean? I've seen so many amazing people and met so many amazing, you know, entrepreneurs or whatever it is in my life that come from nothing, but they believed in themselves so toxically that they were delusionally optimistic in a way that like nobody could tell them otherwise. Right. And I think if more people can kind of like live by that motto and it's hard, it is right. Cause if you don't have anything that you're chasing or anything you're searching for right now, it's tough to think that way. But I think that negativity is, is the biggest reason why, you know, just everything's kind of happening right now in the world.

2:15Yeah, I would agree. It's about seeing the good, even though it's messy and you can't quite see it. It's being able to find this being so toxically positive that you can see good, even though no one else can and being able to develop that. I do think there is a level where it gets too far to the point where every single encounter you have with someone is so over the top positive where you question their authenticity. And so I think I've experienced before where people are what I would label toxically positive. Yeah. And I wouldn't say being optimistic and being positive with your outlook on life is toxic.

2:53But I would say that there is a point in which where you do get to a toxic level where I start to question how much you're actually enjoying the thing. Yeah. It's like you spill your coffee. Oh, great. It's like you're so expressive of how amazing that shit thing is. Yeah. You can not be sad, but when you go over the top and you go extreme, I question the authenticity of the praise they're giving me, authenticity of how proud they are when they speak to me about all the awesome things I'm doing and how much they love watching my journey. And they say it in such an exciting way. The first time I'm so grateful for it.

3:30The second time I'm like, thank you, brother, for always being there. But when you say it 18 times in a row, I go, man, like I probably am not doing things. Like I probably could be doing better. Yeah. And so, yeah, there is a level I feel. There's a line. I agree with you. I think people need to sit in their emotions. They need to feel what's happening in their life. A hundred percent. You know, I'm not like denying that. But I think that where people fall short of all that is dwelling on the past and just being like so fixated on that thing that you can't go and change now. You know, like shit happens.

4:05You know, I have a quote on my leg. It says, learn from the past, live in the present, be inspired by the future. I think that depression comes from thinking about the past and anxiety stems from thinking too much into the future. And if more people can just live in the present, take care of what they need to take care of. And like genuinely just like be positive and happy about look at where we are right now. You know what I mean? Like we're breathing, we're alive. We don't have everything figured out, but like, I am genuinely happy with where I am right now because I'm very grounded in the present.

4:33And it takes a long time to really kind of figure that out. Um, but, but I think more people really need to do that. Yeah. A common theme in, in, in a lot of the super successful people that I've interviewed, when I ask them where their happy place is, they say, whatever makes the most present. So, you know, when I interview one of the greatest surfers, a big wave surfers, the king of the ocean led Hamilton lives up on the hill um you know when I interview um uh certain billionaires in business the the people that say uh the people that have achieved the things we want um more holistically not just like one dimensional but the people that have like achieved a lot of areas of life where I would deal them to be successful like they've got an amazing wife that looks at them in awe they have kids that are so bubbly and energetic they're fit and healthy they're successful in business.

5:23The common denominator in all of them, when I ask them about where the happy place is, they say the thing that makes them most present. And so what that reminds me of is that quote you're saying around how anxiety lives in the future and depression lives in the past. If you live in that moment, you're going to be depressed because you're going to be reliving past things that you need to move forward from. But what are the things in our life that we can do that help us access presence? Because we can't be happy anywhere else, but present. We can be inspired and excited. And that can be a cool feeling when we're looking into the future.

5:55But at the same time, it's fleeting. I think when you can really enjoy what's going on right here, that's the superpower. And it definitely is hard. I'm not sure how you feel about this with your rise in success and what you've been doing, being able to navigate how much more of a high life it is than it once was, and being able to still appreciate it, even though your normals come so high. Has that been a challenge for you? Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I think, you know, as you know, right, you're becoming, you know, very, very widely successful. And I've been watching you for a while now. And I think that as you gain success and as you grow in your career, your life just gets chaotic.

6:36You know, your life gets very busy. There's a lot of opportunities. There's a lot of things that are happening or, you know, as, you know, both of us are very opportunists, I feel like. and like, there's just so much we want to do, right? And so it becomes overwhelming. And I think remembering to be grounded in the present and for me, like a morning routine is everything. When I'm traveling, I'm here, like morning routine, I do the same thing every morning. I have the same routine, I eat the same breakfast, you know, and that's really what keeps me on track and like waking up in that first few hours in the morning when nobody's bothering you or you don't have any problems to solve or, you know, you can just really sit in that and be grateful for where you are, you know be inspired about you know the opportunities you have for the future but also just remember kind of how far you've come and like how hard it is to do this thing we call life because i think that we take that for granted sometimes and we need to give ourselves some grace yeah i'm fascinated to know more about the mission and what you guys are doing and what you've built there's there's one line that that you've said which aligns with your mission and what you're trying to achieve um i believe it was finishing what she started yeah tell me what that means.

7:44Yeah. So, you know, I think that trauma is really inevitable, like in everybody's life, it's going to happen at some point, some way or another. So for me, it happened at 23 years old, my sister passed away, tragically in the middle of the night. And it really put life in a different perspective for me. And I think that my whole life leading up to that, you know, life was so great, right? I had two loving parents. I had a family, you know, I was doing sports in school and, you know, we were very average middle-class. I had everything I really needed, you know? So that was the first thing in my life where the whole world just kind of crashed down on me.

8:25And I didn't really know how to act. I didn't know how to feel. I was coming off the fame of the show and it was like the best time of your life and the worst time of your life coming together at the same time. You don't really know how to process it. And, you know, it happened very publicly while I was filming. So the whole world kind of knew what was happening. And that's obviously a very private thing that you usually deal with, with your immediate family. And I was a very private person before this, but I think what I realized was more people need help than you think. And I think by sharing my story, I was able to allow my sister's legacy to continue on and live on because she was an amazing person.

9:01But I think more people can relate to aspects of their life where that situation has also happened. And I think that authenticity and relatability is absolutely huge in the space that we're in. And I think like we were talking about before, people need to feel those feelings and people need to remember like, we're not robots. We're real people. We deal with real life situations. And like, everyone's the same, you know, like, I'm no different than you. You're no different than anyone else. Like, we all deal with the same shit every day. But, you know, I think for me, it's like, I wanted that story to be told because my sister got life taken way too early and it was nobody else's fault, you know?

9:42So, I think that life, God has a plan for everybody and might not see it now, might not see it in five years, but, you know, she was called for a higher purpose. And I really just love helping people in honor of my sister because I was helping her on her fitness journey before she passed and she was getting ready for her wedding. And, you know, it just lit a fire in me. Like, let me allow this legacy to live on. Let me help people in her honor and finish what she started. Like I said, because she's the reason why I was on Love Island in the first place. She signed me up for the show behind my back while I was in college and I get a phone call randomly.

10:16And that's really what started it all. When you say it was no one else's fault, what do you mean? Yeah, I mean, you know, she unfortunately passed away from a blood clot in the middle of the night. So, you know, it wasn't like she got hit by a drunk driver or, you know, she was doing something she shouldn't have. Like she was a remarkable person. And I think sometimes bad things happen to good people and just can't really explain it. But yeah, it was just outside of anyone's control. No one could have ever predicted it. And it's tough, you know, and as tough as it is for me, I can imagine just my parents, you know, watching a sibling, they're watching your child pass away at such a young age, right before she was going to get married and all of that stuff, you know?

11:01So, you know, I think life's cruel, but it teaches us a lot of lessons in the process. And for me, I know I matured a lot in that process and I learned a lot about myself. I learned a lot about adversity and, you know, life. And I think it, you know, made a positive impact on me in such a negative situation. And I think that, like I said before, trauma is inevitable. It's going to happen in your life. It's how you deal with that, that really kind of defines your success. And you can let it cripple you, or you can use it as fuel and say, life's too short. I'm going to allow her legacy to live on and impact society in a positive way because more people need to do that and hear that story and relate to all of that.

11:41What did it teach you? I think it It taught me adversity. It taught me patience. It taught me that good things come to those who wait. And I think that it really allowed me to dive into more of my empathetic state. I think that I grew up in a world of the Northeast. Everyone's go, go, go. Your feelings don't matter. You know, it's cold outside. So what? It's this, you're sick. So what? Sporting culture as well, right? Sporting culture. I grew up playing sports my whole life. I played college baseball. So like you always learn to like put your feelings to the side kind of, you know? So it allowed me to like really dive into my feelings.

12:28So did Love Island, but that's a different story. but it uh it really allowed me to kind of like figure out who I was as a person because I didn't really have an identity before that traumatic experience you know I my sports was identity but like I didn't truly have a purpose or a passion of like what I actually wanted to get out of life and I think unfortunately that tough situation for me and my family allowed me to in the grieving process, figure that out for myself. And now I am so locked into like what I'm doing, who I'm trying to help, you know, the impact we're trying to make. And I'm so clear on my mission and my vision where nobody can stop me and nobody can tell me otherwise, and nobody can ruin my day, to be honest with you, because, you know, I've lived it 10 times over and I know exactly what I'm trying to do.

13:16Yeah. Some of the most ancient teachers, they say, keep death close. and there's something about like really visualizing and being reminded of, you know, the present moment and how it's not always going to be here. Yeah. Do you feel like seeing someone so close to you pass away made you value and respect and appreciate your life more? 100%, yeah. I think I wake up every day very grateful. I wake up every day very grounded. and understand that like we have the privilege to be alive today you know and like not everyone gets that opportunity and I tell that you know to all the women we work with I promote that on my social and I'm very like positive and motivational but like there's a difference between like oh I have to go work out today and like yes I get to go work out today not everybody gets that opportunity I get to work on something I'm passionate about that I truly care and there's there's a purpose behind it.

14:17I get to call my mom and dad. I get to, you know, talk to my best friends. I get to whatever it is that you're passionate about that you like to do. Like that is an opportunity that people take for granted. I feel like more often than not, and it's easy to take it for granted because we're like, oh, we wake up in the morning, we go to bed, we're breathing like it's a normal thing. But I feel like people don't actually sit in that and realize how many people don't get that opportunity. Yeah. I wonder how that message can be practical for someone just starting out. And the reason for that is because you can listen to this and have zero motivation and zero inspiration.

14:51And you know, you need to go to the gym, but it doesn't mean that it makes you more excited to go to the gym. Like for me, when I think about the ability to appreciate the moments and go, yes, I get to go to the gym, there actually is an element of enjoyment that comes from going to the gym. But for people starting out, a lot of time they don't. Do you know if there's anything that you help people with to like get them to be able to start on that journey and be disciplined and stick to the things that they've said they're going to do, even though maybe they don't enjoy the process. Yeah, that's a great question.

15:24I think that, you know, as much as I'm in the fitness space and, you know, that's my career and I'm in great shape, I actually don't enjoy going to the gym. Ask anybody that, you know, is in my inner circle, like I really don't. but it's not the journey it's the outcome you know and like a lot of times whatever you're doing like you don't enjoy the journey you know but it's like at the end of a workout have you ever left the gym in a bad mood no exactly and it's like it's that whole journey to the end to to to really understand like how you feel afterwards and like motivation is going to come and go i don't i don't i don't really like motivation as a term or as a as a you know frame for people because it's really hard to always be motivated by the next thing or whatever it is.

16:11But, you know, I think just understanding like you have to do it and doing things that you don't want to do, but you have to do or you should do is really like how discipline is built. And I think that when you do hard things, you appreciate the outcome a lot more. But it is hard for people. Yeah, I was talking yesterday to Elliot around how sometimes you need to take a message to an extreme for some to actually hear it. Yeah. And so as an example for this, if you're struggling to go to the gym and you know that if you don't go to the gym and you don't go to the gym and you don't go to the gym and you keep not going to the gym, you're going to be a fat piece of shit.

16:59When you look in the mirror, you're not going to like who you see and you're not going to want to leave the house. If you actually zoom the time horizon out of the outcome that you're doing right now and the habits that you're developing that are actually going to impact your life negatively for the long term. Right. If you zoom out the time horizon of what the outcome of that is, it'll make you be able to go to the gym easier. A hundred percent. On the first day. And so I like to be able to actually take things to extreme for you to actually realize the importance of the micro step that you're actually taking.

17:29and uh and i i find that to be quite profound because you know people don't like people don't like these people that are very extreme online loud and outgoing and controversial but the reality is is the reason it works is because it actually wakes people up like sometimes they need to hear the extreme yeah them to actually just take the smallest of steps yeah no i i agree it's like what do they say um you know in sales right when they're like a uh a mental shift of like if something negative happens like someone turns on music right and it's like you forget about that i forget what the term is you know i'm talking about it's almost like that you know what i mean where they're like nervous system is shocked and they're like oh okay cool but like at the end of the day like i think that self-confidence like everyone wants self-confidence right but self-confidence in my opinion is built on just doing what you say you're gonna do because if i vocalize what I'm trying to do and I don't do it, then I know that everyone knows that I'm a phony.

18:28You know, everyone knows. Some people hold it in and they tell themselves like, I'm going to go to the gym tomorrow. If you don't do that, nobody knows, right? So no one really cares, but you know, and your internal self-confidence is lower because you're walking around like, oh, well, maybe if I, if I went to the gym, my shirt would fit a little better. And this person's looking at me now. You know what I mean? It's like, I do believe that like, that's all self-confidence is, is just doing what you say you're going to do over a long period of time. And whatever the outcome is, is going to be probably in your favor if you've done it well enough.

19:00Yeah. And I like to take things even to one more extreme with a lot of things. I like to look at the outcome of doing what you say you're going to do and what that actually, what you obtain from doing that. And so if we look at self-confidence, what I actually think it is, is knowing who you are. And so there's the great polarity, the difference between confidence and ego. Confidence is I know who I am and I'm okay if you don't. Ego is I need you to tell me how great I am so I can believe it too. And the discipline and the showing up on the days you didn't want to and the times where you just commit to the process of the thing, even if you like it or not, the outcome of that is knowing more about what you like, what you don't like, who you are.

19:48And then when you like who you are, that's where confidence comes. And I think what's powerful about this is it doesn't matter if you're going backwards, if you're progressing forwards, if you're in the present moment, stagnant, not moving. If you know who you are, you're okay with that. And that allows you to show up in a confident way. And yeah, it's always those atomic habits, those little steps that you take. and over time they build up these identities these routines these disciplines and then that could then form like a version of you that you're proud of I guess I love that I actually really like that phrase because I feel like there was a point in my life you know years ago that I wasn't really that confident but I think it's because I just didn't love myself enough and it really for me I think stems from just not having a purpose like I was just kind of like existing you know And I was like, oh, well, being an athlete is my identity or like being this guy is my identity.

20:41But like I didn't truly knew like who I was. And I think that really just like understanding who you are, like you said, and you are who you say you are is is the number one way to kind of like feel confident. And I think there's a difference. Like I do love myself, you know, but I don't think that should be a bad thing, you know, but I love myself because I know the work that I've put in to be there. and if you've done the work and you understand what you're trying to accomplish you you should love yourself and i think that more people should kind of like make steps towards that yeah even even doing the work is the interesting thing um it's been an interesting last couple of months i'll be honest there's been like a weird switch in my view of of of life priorities all of the thing and a big like being in in malibu and like being in the quiet and you know spending hours alone thinking reading writing it's really made me question around like around like what actually matters and you know when we first hopped on a call there was a part of me that went i don't like this miami thing i don't like this this like uh this like showy thing and that was like prime peak.

21:58I think I was probably writing for two hours in the dark before we hopped on that call. And, and, and there's an aspect of this showy life where it's very filled with dopamine and filled with comparison to the point where you can never really be satisfied with where you're at because you see the guy next door doing these crazy things and it makes you just want to go and chase that, that, that, that. And I wonder if there ever is an, end goal or if it just keeps on going and you're never going to be satisfied and never be able to be present because you're too forward thinking it's a type a problem that a lot of us have being in miami and experiencing that life how do you feel the energy is and how do you feel um how do you feel that impacts your life as a whole being in a place where it is very showy and it is very flashy and exciting and very filled with dopamine.

22:56Yeah, I think it's a good thing and a bad thing at the same time, right? You always wanna be chasing something greater. I think you always should have a goal in mind and you should, you know, every quarter, every year, like have those goals written down of like what you wanna accomplish and continue to try and do that. And living in Miami as a young entrepreneur, I think has benefited me for that sense of things, right? You're meeting people that are doing cool shit and they're ahead of you and you're learning a lot and people wanna collaborate on stuff and they generally wanna see you succeed.

23:25And I think Miami gets a bad rep because people just go there on vacation to party. But when you live there, the young entrepreneurship scene is huge. There's so many brilliant guys living there and girls and the fitness space is huge there, right? Everyone wants to be healthy. Everyone wants to better themselves. Everyone wants to. So I think that aspect of it is great for me in where I am in my life right now, right? As a 28, 29 year old, you know, single guy trying to build an empire. So I think that part of it helps me. And I was in a northern part of Florida before that, and I didn't feel inspired.

23:57I didn't feel like I was chasing anything. I didn't feel like I was a big fish in a small pond. And I want to be that small fish in a big pond, to be honest with you. And that's why I think Miami was great for me. I think on the contrary of that, like you said, you never truly feel satisfied because you're always chasing that next thing. I like to use it in an example of your fitness journey because I think fitness is easy to relate to every other aspect of your life. It's the core central theme of life, I do believe. And I think once you tackle your health and fitness, you can really tackle anything else in your life.

24:30But the goal isn't to win at fitness. The goal is to stay fit for the rest of your life, right? There's not like an end goal of like, oh, I want to get to this or I want to get to that. Like, that's really, in my opinion, how I view health and fitness in like a sustainable way. So I view life similar to that or my career or, you know, the things that I'm chasing, because there's no like end goal in mind, right? It's like, oh, when I make this much money, I'll stop or I'll be satisfied. Or when I help this many people, I'll be satisfied. Or when I can retire my parents, I'm satisfied. It's like, I don't think I'll ever be satisfied, but I also don't view that in a negative way.

25:07I like that. I like that I'm always going to be chasing something. I don't compare myself to anyone because I think it's really the thief of joy. Like they say, I do believe that. So I don't compare myself in Miami, but I'm competing with my younger self every day. And I think you would be so proud. I do. But I just have so many things I want to do. And me and my manager and business partner talk every day. And our mind is just overwhelmed with so many things we want to do, which I think is a blessing. It's a great thing to like be inspired and have so many great opportunities you want to try and pursue but at the same time you need to hone it in and i think for me personally everyone's different for me living in that environment helps me more than it hurts me because i'm very disciplined yeah yeah i i would agree a hundred percent um yeah i was i was reflecting on some of the key lessons of my whole life really and one of the common denominators in in every chapter of my whole life was this realization of you only know what you know until you get exposed to something greater.

26:11So I grew up in a tiny small town in Australia called Airlie Beach and I went to a school that was prepped to grade 12, so the whole thing, 400 people. Some classes didn't even have enough people, so we'd have to merge like grade four and five together, like it was that small. And I remember when my parents were moving me out of there to the Gold Coast, I was so sad. I was holding my best friend, crying, going, I can't believe they're doing this to me. I can't believe they're taking me away from you and my life. And this was great. I was 12 years old. I get to the Gold Coast, which for me was a big place.

26:54And I was playing Australian football, like really high level. I was trying to be a professional athlete. I was playing semi-pro through my teenage years and I got to the Gold Coast and we're driving up the hill to my dad's new home that he bought. And he's like, look behind you. And I look behind me and I see this massive stadium and I could see it from the street that I was living on. And I freaked out, went, no way, that's just there. And then I went this. And then when I was 18, I moved to Sydney and then all of a sudden the Gold Coast became this really small town. And I moved to Sydney to pursue business and we got these investors on board.

27:27And anyway, My mind expanded to money and wealth and houses and lifestyle, everything expanded. Then I moved to Austin and I go, oh my gosh, like everywhere in Australia is so small. And then I come to LA and then I travel all around and I just expanded. And the realization was, is if you're feeling like nothing in your life is inspiring you, it probably isn't. Right. And there probably isn't anything there to inspire you. Yeah. And so you need to like kind of open your peripherals and expand your horizon of what's actually possible. And I think Miami would do that for someone. You'd go there and I have a couple of mates that are screaming at me to go there saying how much I love it.

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28:12And I just go, nah, mate, I just love this abundant slow life here in Malibu. I don't want to do this. But anyway, I think the moment I do go there and experience it, there will be a different sense of appreciation for it. Yeah. But I want to read you something. It's what I call the flashy life epidemic. It's a life built to be seen, not necessarily to be lived. We've shifted from experiencing life to curating it. From asking, am I fulfilled? To asking, does this look impressive? In the past, status was land, family, and legacy. Now it's a 15 second reel. If it doesn't photograph well, it almost feels like it didn't happen.

28:52People make decisions not for themselves. but for the hypothetical viewer that's seeing them. What would this look like online? That imaginary audience becomes the compass. Flashy lifestyles are dopamine heavy, but dopamine spikes crash. So you need a bigger car, a bigger watch, a bigger flex. It escalates. And the most fascinating contradiction, many people chasing the loudest life are the most anxious because when your identity is built on show, you're only as valuable as your last display. Wow. Wow. And so many people chasing the loudest life are the most anxious. If we tie that into what we were speaking about at the very, very start, if you're living in the future, what lies there?

29:36Anxiety. And so the past depression, future anxiety, the flashy things are great. They inspire you. The people doing great things around you, they're great. They're inspiring you. But I do believe, and I could be wrong as a naive 23 year old man, I could be wrong, but I do believe that if you are chasing that, it's never going to reach a point where you're ever going to be happy because there's always going to be another crash of dopamine that you need something bigger to feel the same high, the same buzz that you felt when you make your first thousand dollars online to then X, Y, and Z, X, Y, and Z, X, Y, and Z.

30:15And so I feel like it's a great way to slingshot you from one to a hundred. But for true life mastery, I feel there has to be a point in your life in which you break free from that and you can search for meaning and fulfillment in things that don't require you to be progressing at such a fast rate. Yeah, no, I agree. I think that Miami is obviously great for opportunity and to be able to, and that's a spot on quote, by the way, that's incredible. But I think it comes down to, you know, I grew up in a small town as well, right and I'm from the northeast I'm from the Boston area and no one really leaves everyone's still in my hometown they're getting married to each other we went to high school with you know it's just like it's very much like that and I think when I started to travel at a young age for sports and when I started to see the world I was like there's so much life to live and there's so many other opportunities and things you can create so that was inspiring to me and then once I got to Miami obviously you know you can do anything that you want which is a blessing but at the same time, it's a curse, like you said, but it comes down to like, what do you actually want?

31:22And I think when I was younger, as I was starting out, like, because I've come from such a small town, like, I think the best compliment I receive to this day is when I go home or if I see my home friends or see people I grew up with, they're like, Josh, you haven't changed at all, you know? And for me, that means a lot because in what we do, and especially my industry, people change they change based off of their status or they change who they are based off of what they have and like I just don't understand that I really don't get it and I think that being a good person is more important than you know anything you could buy and for me it's like it's goals to have right it's like okay if I hit this mark which I think I can by x I'll treat myself with x or if I hit that mark i'll treat myself with y But it's not the things that really matter.

32:16It's for me because i'm so competitive. It's like I said I was going to do this and I did it and I accomplished it And that's the outcome and I can check it off and I can move on to the next thing So it's like it's not the thing that really matters It's it's the process to get the thing that I get the high off of because I know that how hard it is to do But you're right. Miami obviously has this culture of like, what do you have? I like to describe it as like, you know, being in California right now, not necessarily Malibu, but LA in general, because that's usually where I come. It's LA is who you know.

32:49Miami is what you have. And I still think that is true, no matter what anyone says, just from what I've seen. But I agree, like leaving home was the best decision I ever made. And I think that you could probably say the same thing. right and for a lot of people that are just scared to leave their hometown or leave their families or leave like I talk to my family every day but I see them maybe like four times a year you know and it's just me my mom and my dad now and I know they miss me every day and they lost you know their daughter and then six months later I moved to Florida and they barely saw me so they basically lost two children you know so I just know that like that was the best decision for me in what I was trying to pursue you know I think if you know who you are and you're disciplined and you're grounded in your morals and your character.

33:35Like I grew up with two amazing parents who instilled in me hard work, the value of money, being a good person, you know, and like that stuff never changes no matter what I accomplish or what I have. Yeah. And it's that, it's that, it's that saying around unteachable lessons, right? You still need to embark on the journey. I think the big thing that I've just been trying to check in with is, is if I feel a calling, like answering it. So if I want to sprint and I want to make a billion dollars and I genuinely want to, go and do it. No matter the pain, no matter the hardship, let's go. How awesome, what a gift it is to be able to have something to strive towards and genuinely want the outcome of the thing.

34:22How awesome is that? But equally, how awesome is being able to be okay with where you're at? and so I think it's about listening to that calling because if you if you want it and you don't get it you know you can get it and you know it's possible and you would never achieve it and that's a slippery slope that's the worst place to be in dreaming without action is the worst place to be in because you know it's out there like I would rather just not dream at all if I'm not going to act but but I think listening to whatever comes up whether that is speed up start that business, slow down, write in your journal, write a book or marry the love of your life, whatever it is.

34:59I think you should listen to it and then let that kind of soul-led version of you dictate your actions because if not, you're just going to be liked for someone that you're not and you're going to get praise and it's going to feel hollow. And I think that's a slippery slope that people in the industry that we're in and being so public facing and having so much engagement and things online, it can get slippery to the point where you feel like you're getting so much praise, but you equally just feel alone at the same time. Yeah, it's very lonely. I think social media is very lonely. I think being an entrepreneur is very lonely.

35:32It's a unique journey, right? And I think only a select few of us understand it. But I agree with you. Like I said at the beginning, I think we live in a world with, we are fortunate enough to be in the United States of America. And I think that there's so much opportunity. You can literally do whatever the fuck that you want. And that is a blessing. And I think, like you said, you know, saying it's one thing, but actually doing it is another, like you might as well not dream if you're not going to act on it. I love that because I completely agree. Cause I think that creates more anxiety, to be honest with you and more depression.

36:06But you can literally do whatever you want. And like you said, if you want to go out and make a billion dollars as fast as you can, no one should tell you otherwise. If that's what makes you happy. That's great. But I think truly being happy is just like fulfilling things that morally is in your compass, you know? And like, if you stay true to like your morals, like I realistically, Chris, like I could die tomorrow and I would be happy. I am happy with what I've done with my life. I can, I can stand here and tell you like, I'm happy with the person that I am, how I've treated people and what I've tried to pursue, you know, and I can say that, right?

36:47Obviously, I always want more. Obviously, I have so much more things I want to accomplish. But I think that if everyone was to sit there for a second and think if they would be happy if their life was taken, they didn't wake up tomorrow, I don't know how many people would would say they would be oh it's quite a deep thing to think about uh we're all gonna think about it when we're on our deathbed so we might as well think about it now right because tomorrow could you know it could be your last yeah and that's like that whole thing around keeping death close and going like if i were to die would i be happy with what i've done yeah it's deep dude well I actually love when people say, like, I think Gary Vee says this a lot, or he said it one time and it really stuck with me.

37:36It's like, why are you like thinking so heavily about what you're posting is like, we're all literally on a floating rock. And in a hundred years, no one's going to know who you are. Like, why are you fixating over like, oh, is this a good or what are people going to think on that? And like, I think I saw that like a year and a half ago. And ever since then, I've just annihilated content. I didn't even think about it, just posted everything. And I was able to like really relay a message and like grow the brand. But before I was so stuck in my head of like what other people were going to think, because like I said, you probably too, where I grew up, no one does this stuff.

38:13So like, I always thought like, who's judging me, you know, what do they think? And then you just shift your perspective on like understanding what you want to do. And like, no one cares yeah you know i think it's better yeah i on the whiteboard in the house in there uh it just says one thing spinning rock that's all it is i love that it literally says it it takes up the whole whiteboard spinning rock and and uh we're really we're really on a spinning rock and we just fill our days with things to do so we don't get bored yeah like that's what we're That's the best. I love that. Like we really are.

38:52And I think it's a good reminder when you stub your toe, you can be like, ah, it's okay. It's fine. I mean, stubbing your toe is a bit annoying, but at the same time, like it's fine at the end of the day. It's not, it's not the end of the world. Earlier in the chat, you said one of the things you learned from your sister passing was to be a bit more open and vulnerable. You're explaining that growing up in a sporting, you know, athletic background, I'm the same. it's like don't share your problems man like hard enough no one cares like eat some cement and so and so it is a culture where you know you don't want to open up but when you say be more vulnerable be more open what specifically are you meaning by that yeah i think that um in that process of grief four years ago like i said before i learned a lot about myself I realized I had more depth than I had let on the first 22 23 years of my life and in that process You know, I I did therapy for a little bit and that helped open up to a stranger luckily I had good support from family and friends and things like that, but I think when I started to be open and vulnerable with my content and share my story more I saw it relate to so many people and like I said before I think that we all have a story We all have bad things that have happened in our life, but I think at the end of the day People buy from people right like whatever you're trying to do In the world like they're not buying your product.

40:26They're buying your service They're not buying your product or buying your service. They're buying you right people buy from people and people want to buy from people they can relate to. And I was scared to share my story because I didn't want to look weak. I didn't want to look vulnerable. I didn't want to think that people, you know, question my mental health or things like that. And then when I shift my perspective to like, I can help people on this journey because I've done the work myself now and I know what it's supposed to look like. It was a game changer for me because then I went into like the mode of, I just want to help as many people as I can impact their life in a positive way.

41:03And if I can do that, I will feel fulfilled with my purpose. And I don't know, I think as a man talking about being vulnerable and your mental health is not normalized. I think it's becoming a little bit more normalized now into 2026. But like you said, we grew up on this culture of like, eat nails and, you know, don't talk about your feelings. And that's how I grew up as well. But I think it's, I've realized like, it's okay to feel those feelings. It's okay to talk about them. And I think you'd be surprised how many other people are going through the same thing that you are. Yeah. It's not only okay to talk about them, but no, it's not only okay to feel them, but it's quite important to feel them.

41:45Not just like push them down and be like, no, they're not a thing. I think what is really important though, as a man, specifically too, when you're on a mission is the problem isn't talking about them. The problem is dwelling in them. You can talk about the problem, but when your alarm goes off the next morning, you get up and you go to the gym and you keep back on your mission. Let it out, have your sob, but don't dwell in that thing. If I come back to you a week later and you're still sad about that thing that happened, that's the problem. How do we shorten the gap between feeling sad and moving on?

42:23That should be the goal. I think You have to hit it face on or else it's going to keep on resurfacing. And that's why feeling it's important and feeling it in its entirety. Like if you need to feel sadness, feel that sadness. But get back on the horse and keep going. I think with trauma, like I said at the beginning, you can go one of two ways with it. It's like you can use it as a crutch and always talk about it and always think about it and always have that thing be the reason why you can't accomplish that goal or that thing that you want to do. right which most people do or you can use it as fuel and understand it sit in that pain sit in that feeling and then take action on it in a positive way not a negative way not drugs alcohol this that and the third but like with purpose with passion with a mission with a vision and try and leave this world a better place than you came into it i think is is really the ultimate goal yeah i i agree i agree the the someone asked me on a podcast i said do you think trauma is a progresser or a regressor.

43:27And I said, are you a hero or a villain? It's like you can choose if you want to use it, use that fuel to put in your car and drive to the shops or to burn your house down. It's all perspective. And I mean, ultimately you can choose. What would you say would be the biggest distraction in your life?

43:50Currently or in the past? Currently. I think what happens and the reason I think this is a powerful topic to talk about is when you achieve stuff like we have and you're a good looking man, you can kind of get what you want a lot easier. Like you do really have a bit more influence whether you want to hate it or not. Like there'll be some green haired person screaming down this podcast saying that you're privileged and that you shouldn't talk about it. But the reality is I think it's important that when you are obtaining this quote unquote like high value status, money, looks, physical health, kindness, calm, stoic, nature, you kind of do have a bit of influence on your life, which means there's, you know, comfort can creep in and opportunity can creep in.

44:44And I find distractions can be very present. I'm just wondering if there's a distraction in your life that's the biggest one. Yeah, two parts of that. I think currently the biggest distraction in my life is probably opportunity, which most people would say that's a blessing, right? Which it is, right? But I think us as creators and us as, you know, having things we want to pursue, it's hard to say no to a lot of things. you always want to do that next thing or be a part of that or seek opportunity right and just kind of like shiny objects exactly exactly let the chips fall where they may but i've noticed um recently i've had a lot more discipline in saying no to things and i think there's a huge power in saying no to things that you know you could do um and you gain that perspective but the more i say no to things the more empowered i feel and the more i'm more focused on the things that i'm currently doing and I'm able to do those way better.

45:44So I think that opportunities lately within the last six months have been the biggest distraction for me. And then previous to that, I think my biggest distraction before was women. And I think that I'm very selective on who I give my energy to now. And that's a blessing. I think not I know what I want, but I know what I don't want at this point in my life. And I'm not gonna change that for anyone. And you either add value to my life or you don't and there's no middle ground so that's really where I'm at with like women at this point in my life I'm not in any rush you know I'm not not dating but I'm just not really like looking fully for like that person I think it's just something that should happen naturally but for me like opportunities I say at this current point in my life is probably the biggest distraction I'll say yours and mine is flipped I'll say that mine was opportunity um i i had i had what i would call and i've never called it this but it's coming to my mind now i have what i would call over plate over full plate syndrome where i i i have an addiction to overflowing my plate so i have like a plate of stuff and maybe 40 of it is like good shit that lights me up that excites me but there's still free space on the plate and i get slammed with all these opportunities, you're doing cool shit.

47:06People want a piece of it. So you say no to most, but you still say yes to too many. And then what happens is by saying yes, too many times, you fill this plate. And all of a sudden, all of the gold is just covered with shit. And you can't work on any of the gold that helps you actually achieve the things you want because you're too distracted with all these things. You've got your hands in too many pies. So then you go through this process of getting rid of all the shit. You have this realization, my plate's overflowing. I've got to cut it all out. And then you cut it all out and you feel so free.

47:38You're the most productive you've ever been. You've had the most peace you've ever had. Then what happens is you onboard more and you keep getting this overflowing plate. I feel like that happened with me a lot for the last seven years, I would say. I just kept overflowing my plate. And then the women piece was probably last year, Fresh in America. women biggest distraction and um and i think i think honestly the women pieces is most men's biggest distraction yeah and and the thing is is is uh you know there was a quote that i read out on the michael smoke episode and it was the biggest thing that will kill a man's dream is wasting time chasing the wrong women with the wrong intentions and it just sums it up perfectly It's like our life gets filled with lust so easily.

48:33There's so many things that are short term and are gratifying in the short term, but then you finish them and go, why have I done that? And women, I think for a lot of men, that is the problem. And so, yeah, being able to have trust in the process of finding one person that you actually love. there you can because because equally if you can find the the one that's there to support you that's when you get home from work and she's there right like that's the greatest blessing for your mission but equally if it's short term and it's fleeting they're the biggest distractions you will you will push back that meeting you will drive an hour you will fly them here you will go on things you never thought you would ever do like after the fact you go why did i just do that you just took all my energy.

49:23I'm sapped. Literally. I need to have two naps a day. Oh, I've, um, I've had too many of those experiences with the wrong people that I thought were the right people. So it's like, I think that with what we do, right? Like bringing peace at the end of a day is like money can't buy that. And I think it's so fucking valuable and that's all I'm looking for. Yes. You're going to have your problems and things like that, but like you choose to be in a relationship and you choose to be single. Some people are like, whoa, you're doing this, this, this. You are this person. Like, how are you still single?

49:56Because I choose to be single. I'm not dating. I'm not going out doing things. But like, I'm choosing to do that in my life because I think there are seasons in your life where, you know, it's kind of like putting too much on your plate, right? Like, I can't, in my head, this is what I think about. I can't accomplish the things that I want to accomplish and be so focused and give all my time to that while trying to pursue a relationship because for me, it's not fair to that person. And I think with the right person, you're right. It becomes easier and they add value to your life. And it might be easier to still accomplish your goals.

50:30But me personally, I think that right now where I'm at in my life in the season, that is more important to me than trying to fit somebody into my life that might not fit. Yeah. Even if it's the right person though, it takes so much energy. It does. because you want to be a good boyfriend but also it's the most magical thing in the whole world like loving someone right and so that's feeling it's it's the greatest feeling and so if that's the greatest feeling and you meet that person of course you're going to want to do that and nothing else right yeah like i met someone last year and i'd been sprinting we caught 49 flights last year and um just recordings travel like interviewing doing all this thing absolute shit show it was great we we absolutely blew up and got the chiefs far beyond what i thought was possible and um and and i met this woman and i i i turned my my laptop off for a whole week man i like what is going on i like was like dude this girl has possessed me yeah like it i don't there's nothing else i want to do i want to sit on the couch and look at you in the face and talk.

51:44Sex is a hard drug, man. I tell you what. But not even sex. I didn't even have sex with her. She's Christian, no sex till marriage. And that was the crazy part. When you actually love someone, dude, that's the biggest distraction. The only thing that makes it worthwhile is the fact that you're seeing a future with them and realizing that, okay, we have another 70 years on this earth and I've met someone that I could see myself spending every last year with. I think spending this time cherishing this is probably worthwhile. Still a distraction. So if you're not where you want to be yet, then it is a hard one to balance.

52:24I think women fall in the same category as opportunities, right? We say we live in a world where there's so many opportunities out there and you can go shiny object syndrome and this, that, and the third. Women fall in the same category where I see so many people get divorced because they think there's so many options out there with social media and the world we live in, right? So I have so many friends in their young mid-30s that are divorced with children because it's just easy to give up nowadays because people feel like there are so many options for them, right? So it's like, it's scary, you know?

52:58It's very scary to like give your all to someone because, you know, I've been in that situation that I thought was my forever and it didn't work out and I gave so much time, effort, attention, money, opportunity. I think to myself, how much further ahead I would be if I didn't spend X amount of time with that person. And it makes you second guess a lot of the things that you're trying to look for in a partner. But as I go up in my career and I consume more content from successful entrepreneurs, they always say, the most important decision you're ever going to make in your life is your life partner and it can either break you or it can make you and i think that that for me is really kind of like what sticks and something i'll never i'll never compromise on yeah it's a it's a battle it's it's one of those uh uh like privileged battles where you go yeah hi baby i've got options but the actual challenge with it really is it's very hard to not think the grass is greener it's very hard to commit to someone knowing that there's more of a perfect person out there and that you can get them it's very hard yeah um and so the commitment part is like the the biggest thing i think the number one thing um men one is freedom at the end of the day and so that does that does uh initially in the mind it actually makes us feel like we're losing our freedom um but i interviewed this this relationship um masculine feminine expert he's trained tony robbins and his name's danny morell massive massive guy and he talks about when you find the right one you know and he said he said when you find the right one and you realize that she loves herself so much that she will let you go and when you realize that you find this like deep love to her and when you can access that you find the freedom in the connection so you can access freedom in the deep connection because when you're in there you know you don't need anyone else you don't need to chase anyone else you don't need to get distracted so and and she's aligned with your mission so so you know that you can pursue the things you want to do and you're going to have someone there ride or die that's going to support you.

55:22And that unlocks the ultimate freedom. And so freedom in the short term is the commitment phase of when we're trying to commit to this person. It's a very scary thing. It's very hard. But being able to find freedom in the connection is where we need to be in order to actually feel sane in a loving relationship. I love that. I love that quote. You said earlier about seasons that you're in. How would you view the season of your life that you're in? And how would you describe that? Yeah, I think the season currently that I'm in in my life is just a season of building. You know, I think I've had seasons of learning.

55:58I've had, you know, seasons of a little bit more less opportunist mindset in my life, seasons of grieving. But I think right now, like, because I'm so locked into my core values and like the mission and vision that me and my team are trying to pursue. There's no one that can take me off that path right now. There's not anything you can tell me that I don't already know about myself. And, you know, I think that I find so much peace in that where I can choose to pursue other things, but I don't want to, you know, like I'm so happy with where my life is right now and what I'm trying to pursue that that this season excites me.

56:42It does. And it's really, really cool. And I wake up ready to just like crush every single day. And I don't even know how to describe the feeling, to be honest with you. I just, I feel so high on life right now, you know? Yeah, yeah. Oh, see, I was writing about this the other week around you're so sure with what you're doing. It's not that you're, it's not that that's the only thing you can do. you know you're capable of other things but you don't feel like you need to do any other things yes and that's a freeing place to be then so free so you feel you feel you have so much power in that because it's like you can choose to do something else but you don't want to because you know you're exactly where you're supposed to be and i think if we tie in happiness to that that's really one of the key goals knowing you're capable but not feeling like you need to yeah That could stop the chase.

57:39That could be the thing that makes you go, yes, I'm chasing. Yes, I have goals. I don't need them though. And I don't need to do anything else. The happiness can come from that ability of knowing who you are, knowing what you're capable of, being able to see certain mountaintops, know you can climb them, but go, I might just walk around that one. I might just like take a different route because I don't need that thing. And that comes into that alignment piece of like what you're aligned with, what you want to do. A hundred percent. I think if you're truly happy with who you are, where you're at, then there's really nothing that can distract you or nothing that you could think to chase that would make that any different.

58:24You know, I think a lot of people buy stuff because they have some type of insecurity about who they are and their identity or what they're trying to do. So they need validation from other people. You know, I think when you're truly grounded with where you are or what you're trying to pursue, it doesn't really matter about anything else. And like if you truly have self-confidence and like do what you say you're going to do, that's where true happiness lies really. Yeah. What about navigating friends and maintaining relationships and friendships in pursuit of growing? Like you've grown so much in your career, in your business and in your life in the last four years.

59:04And I'd imagine that with that becomes a potentially a challenge to maintain the same friends. Has maintaining friends during this rapid growth been a challenge? Have you been able to navigate that well? It's been a huge challenge for me. I think that I've really thought about the term friendship more in the last four years than I did in the first 24 of my life. There's a difference between a friend and a drinking buddy or someone that you grew up with or someone that was a part of this team with you. You know, like there's a huge difference. And I think I didn't know the term as much, but for me, the last four years, I have lost so many friends, but I don't see it as a loss.

59:54I honestly, I did at first, but I think that now I'm so aligned with, I have the core people in my life that I know are like family to me. And I have my family. And those are the only people that I need to feel joy in my life right now. I mean, you know how it is. Like when you're building something and you're so locked into what you're doing, you miss everything. I've missed birthdays, weddings, you know, funerals, holidays. Like I've missed it all. People that I was really close with, family, friends, everything. And when you're sitting there working on the thing that you're trying to accomplish alone on Christmas Eve by yourself, not with friends and family, you really start to think, and you're like, is this worth it?

1:00:41So it puts it into perspective and I think it comes down to really truly loving what you're doing and knowing your purpose because then it is all worth it. But I've lost a lot of friends in the process, a lot of friends that I don't really associate with anymore because they don't just align with where I am in my life. Well, understanding what friendship actually means. Shit. because friend is such a loose term, you know, but you don't think about it until you actually need a friend. Yeah. Fuck. Defining what friendship actually means. I'm looking at this and going, the ones, so true friends are the ones that understand that they don't need a call every day to realize that you care about them.

1:01:36and true friends are the ones that are going to be there for you even when the launch of that business didn't go the way you wanted it to because they believe in you and they know that you're going to crush it at some point um and so maybe when you pursue a route that is you know public facing that is extraordinary you're going to get tested and your friends are going to get tested and it's going to force you to go, okay, like what actually is a real friend? And what does that, what does that mean? Yeah. And that's quite a powerful thought to ponder on because it does, you can get in your head for me, it's been my biggest challenge is maintaining friendships.

1:02:17You know, Chris Williamson talks about that lonely chapter, but I feel it's not a chapter. It's chapters with every single leap that you take because you grow away from old friends into new groups of friends. But then because you're growing so quickly, you do it again and again and again. And so it's actually coming to peace with finding people that are not there for what you can do for them, but what you actually are and who you are. Yeah. You know, I think I really learned the value of friendship when I met my business partner and manager who's here, you know, with us today. And, you know, we met at a business dinner a few years ago and didn't know each other from a hole in the wall.

1:02:58and it was like we knew each other for the last 15 years. It was the most out-of-body experience I think I've ever had and we were so aligned on everything. And I think, like you talked about before, as you walk up the ranks of success and fame and whatever, everyone always wants something from you. They're like, how can I benefit from Chris's success? And I think he was the only person in my life at the time who didn't do that. And he, I brought him into my business. He didn't ask for anything. He, all he wanted to do was make sure I was okay. You know, how I was doing and how we could grow this thing.

1:03:40He didn't ask for anything. We didn't talk about any of that. Like that's how our friendship started. He was the first person in my life that didn't take anything from me or didn't need anything from me, just wanted to help. And he believed in me. And I think that's not really friend. That's family. It really is. yeah and it's not to disregard the fact that he probably thought that there was some upside in it for him as well it's not about disregarding the fact that there is a transactional element of going like i do believe in this guy and if i do stay around him it's probably going to benefit me it's not about disregarding yeah no for sure you know it's because like at the end of the day we do want people that add to our lives and so if a focus for our life is business and we meet someone that we get along with.

1:04:25It doesn't mean that we don't need to ever do anything with them or make any money from what they're doing. But I think the moment it becomes the priority and it becomes the thing that overtakes you as a person, that's where I'm not, it's not a price I'm willing to pay. You know, one of the one things that I wrote down for this year as a price that I'm not willing to pay, I got clear on prices that I wasn't willing to pay in order to achieve the things that I wanted. And if it meant that I needed to take a longer route, I'm happy to take that longer out. And one of the prices I was not willing to pay was transactional relationships.

1:05:01And those people that treat you like the most amazing person and are so lovely. And then the moment they put a price tag in front of you and you don't buy it, they don't text you, they don't message you, they don't hang out with you. It's flooded in LA. This is why I'm in Malibu. It's like, it's like, get me out of that noise. And I call it noise because it's just, it's so consuming. You look at them and then you don't want the thing because it's not aligned with what you're trying to do. And then they're a ghost. Yeah. Like you're done out of their life. Yeah. And one of those things was like, I could play that game and I could win it and I could crush everything.

1:05:41And I was like, but what's the point? Yeah. What's the point? Yeah. And so that's cool to understand friendship and defining that as a whole. Yeah. It's very interesting when you really start to look at it from a different perspective. What's exciting you at the moment? There's a lot. I mean, like I said, opportunity is probably my biggest distraction right now. Saying no to things I've been doing a better job of, but I think this year is going to be really special. I think the last few years, we were putting the pieces together, and this year, we're just going to explode. And I think the brand is going to do some amazing things this year.

1:06:20I have some cool opportunities that I can't really talk about yet that's going to come to fruition this year that I'm really excited about. I think it'll definitely push me physically and mentally in ways that I maybe didn't know that I could. So I'm excited about that. I love challenges. I love doing new things. So there's a lot of cool things with the brand. there's a lot of cool things with, you know, just really everything as a whole. I think I'm excited to spend a lot more time with my family this year. I've made that, you know, a big priority in my life as one of my first two goals on my goal sheet for 2026.

1:06:59I was very into my purpose last year, and I want to make sure that I take a trip with my family and I take care of them. And, you know, getting older, you know, and that's something that is really value to me and something that is of my morals. But yeah, I mean, it's, I think this year is exciting. Like I said before, we live in a cool world where if you have a cell phone and wifi, there's no excuse not to pursue your goals. And that excites me. Unreal dude. I appreciate you coming on. I think it's really cool. I'm grateful for the connection. I'm grateful to be able to help each other grow and and support each other wherever we can.

1:07:38But I appreciate you. And I'll leave all of your details in the show notes description below. You mainly focus on women with coaching. I'll leave all of those links in the description. So if you're a woman and want to have the best team, help you get in shape and change your life and turn it around, then you can find that in the show notes in the description below as well. But I appreciate you coming on, man. Thank you so much. Thank you, brother. I appreciate you. Respect you. Thank you. Thank you. Signing out. We'll see you guys very, very soon. Bye-bye. Love it. Stitch Fix. Stop shopping. Get styled.

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