‘Beef’ Season 2, Episodes 4-6: Against the Grain

19:21Rob:Okay. So this is, we're new-ish L.A. people. We are. Right? So we're new to a town that is like an industry town. Oh, yeah. So most of the people we meet are connected to in some way the industry that we are somewhat connected to. And so by virtue of that, in a way that it was never true for me in the Bay Area, there is this approach that you can. You weren't in like crypto? What was going on? I'm not a tech pro. No? I hate to break it to you. There is this like approach that certainly I would not say not everyone, not the majority of people I've met in L.A., but certainly more than I've ever encountered in my life of this, what can you do for me sort of approach that people have in this town?

20:04Rob:Have you experienced that? Is that something that feels new to you or? I haven't experienced that so much here. I mean, I think we've all experienced at one time or another. And we need, I think, a German word for that very specific, like soul falling feeling of like you're having a conversation with somebody at a mix or at a party, at a wedding, whatever. and you can feel their eyes drift from you behind you to find the next person that they want to be talking to. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it feels terrible. Do you feel like that happens to you less because you're so tall and it's like hard for them to sort of like find someone fine?

20:36Rob:I don't think that's true. I would like if that were the case, but it comes for us all. I just, when Josh was talking about, if I do this for Troy, maybe will Troy help me later? Gave me real like welcome to LA sort of energy. Last but not least, sorry, before we get into our categories, do you have an MVP of this or an MVP moment of this stretch of episodes? That's a great question. Honestly, like the main core ensemble feels really balanced to me. I don't feel like anyone is necessarily outshining. I would say for this stretch of episodes, if I had to pick one, it'd probably be Carrie Mulligan.

21:10She kind of has the most to do in a lot of ways.

21:13Rob:The most despair over Burberry. Right. I think in particular, her like - The most murdering of coyotes. Yes. Yeah. You know, she's got the action. She's got the emotion. She's got like the I'm mapping out a search grid based on where the light last shown last to find Burberry. Pretty impressive. Genuinely. Also a depression fleece in the mix. Like, yeah, we're doing it all. And by the end of these episodes, the main kind of like machinations that are accelerating the divorce or intensifying the divorce. So I would say she's probably mine for this. Prop comedy with a giant present, getting hit by a child.

21:45Rob:The snake. The snake prop comedy was also very good. How are you feeling, though? Do you have an MVP? there was a moment so i think overall it's hard because when i when i've been taking notes and sort of going back through and awarding things charles melton is coming up a lot like charles melton is carrying the comedy in a very significant way which is very key and the conscience i would say they're all amazing but but i think kaylee spaney for and i and i said this before but there's a moment in this stretch i think it's episode six uh yeah where eunice comes into the office and is like trying to get the the invoices right the forbidden invoices um and you know they're doing the whole like i love your style i love your style let's go shopping but when she first comes in ashley like pops up to hug her and you the way the shot is framed like unice's the back of unice's head is to the camera so you get ashley smiling at her and then going in for the hug so her face comes around the other side and it's a completely different i fucking hate you face and she gives her like a brusque slap or two on the back on the back is and then she comes back across the frame to the other side and it's pasted back on i was like that's some good shit from kaylee spandy kaylee spandy's got it she's really good in so many different ways and just like one of these actors who i would i would just hesitate to pigeonhole her into anything i would love to see her in just like the widest variety of roles possible over the next five years because of this sort of like transformational potential we didn't talk about uh romula like alien romulus like what What was your experience watching her in that?

23:18I mean, she was dope. She was great. That's a perfect example of like, would I have picked her for that role? I wouldn't have known to, but I'm glad somebody saw it.

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24:40Rob:What do you say to that, Rumi? It's not a battle. So glad the Saja boys could take breakfast and give our meal the rest of the day. It is an honor to share. No, it's our honor. It is our larger honor. No, really. Stop. You can really feel the respect in this battle. Pick a meal to pick a side. Ba-da-ba-ba-ba. And participate in McDonald's while supplies last. Each character's worst decision. Starting with our guide, Josh. I think Josh's worst decision in these episodes is to say over text, I heard you met David. You're welcome. Like, that's a text that ruins your life. Horrible. He was already in trouble when Dr.

25:22Rob:Allen came in and was like, hey, if you could have gotten to me sooner, I could have helped you right away. But then the gloat. The turning gloat gets me every turn. The staying gloat gets me every time. I think that, like, but I don't think he meant it that. I don't think he's aware. That's the thing. Yeah. I think there is an obliviousness in that moment where he kind of thinks he... maybe didn't do the best thing because of the whole waiting room situation. And we're going to talk more about that. But I think this is him thinking he made a half measure to reconcile it and doesn't fully realize how fucked a thing that is to say.

25:54Rob:I have trying to leverage Ashley's medical care in the blackmail scheme. Like that's just doing that in the first place. Yeah. We're in the emergency room. Like have a moment to think before you decide to make that the time to bargain. This is where I want to double dip because you and I had a conversation last pot about what makes a manipulation diabolical. This is fucking diabolical. Okay. Right? Like this is crossing the threshold of, you know, this is a bad thing, but then specifically using that leverage to try to get the video deleted, spinning it into this person you're trying to squeeze, suffering life altering consequences because of the precious hours that she was sitting in this waiting room too long because of your shit.

26:39I mean, that's diabolical.

26:40Rob:So, okay. Okay. Last time we were sort of disagreeing about the definition of diabolical and I was like saying it more about the intensity of it and you were saying more about like the longevity or the steps inside of it. I think it's both. Yeah. Yeah. It's like the intentions themselves obviously need to be twisted. Yeah. And in a very particular like cruel sort of way. Like you know better. You know this is a terrible thing to do to somebody in a bad moment and you're choosing to do it like Josh does here. But then also, I think the implications have to be more than just like it was a tough conversation for them.

27:11Okay.

27:12Rob:In that sense, your answer is better than mine. My answer for that for the diabolical manipulation category is Ashley pretending to have pain from her surgery that she doesn't have just to get in the conversation. Tea. Chamomile and the big mug. Big mug. Like, girl, no. Well, let's just go fully down the manipulation chain while we're here. I do want to give like special honorable mention to the guy at the shelter who brings out the dachshund and is like, by the way, this is not a no-kill shelter. That should be illegal. You should not be allowed to do that. It's Argyle from Stranger Things just doing his business.

27:47Rob:I would say also the entire Ava gambit. So like Lindsay and Ashley working as a duo on the golf course. Pretty good. Really good. I enjoyed it. I mean, this is the thing. We love a con man story, a con woman story. We do. This episode really turns into one. And when like your target is a rich dummy, I can't be mad about it. I'm in favor of it. Ava deserves everything she has coming towards her. But she's the only person in the story dumb enough to be happy. You know, it's like and yet not so happy that she won't find flaws in herself that she desperately needs to fix. We live in a capitalist society.

28:20Rob:If we can buy happiness, we will. Let's go back to worst decision. Lindsay's worst decision. I think it's going to a kid's birthday when you don't even talk to the parents anymore to try to fish out marriage, or sorry, divorce advice. Free divorce advice from Meredith. A free divorce consult in a way that, like I was saying, kind of escalates everything that's happening around the divorce. I think Meredith, what really saved that scene for me, I mean, it was a good scene, but what really saved it for me was Meredith's like laugh when she was like, you have to get into the bouncy house now. This is the transaction.

28:52Rob:This is what you have to do. Really good. How did we not get that? How did we not get I really agree. A Carrie Coon on the trampoline-esque moment from Lindsay here. Let the Wu-Tang play. What was, there was something kind of uncanny about the, I couldn't tell if like all of that was happening in the background was actually there. The party. Or if they like green screened some of it. I couldn't quite tell. That's a great shot. It didn't bump for me, but I'd be curious to revisit it. Like some of the foreground stuff was real, but I thought maybe some of the background stuff was not real. I couldn't tell.

29:23Rob:Austin's worst decision Well did you have a separate one for Lindsay? I think we're aligned on that Okay For Austin I think for Austin It's just allowing This PT thing to go on This long When do you pull the plug Rob? Is it when an Olympian walks in? I mean there are certain things You can't fake And one of them is the rehab Of Suni Ali A fucking national treasure Like There's just no way Like she knows so much more About her body than you And this may be If you are reality inclined with this show. The idea that an Olympian would go to a random country club to find their like team of PTs would literally never happen.

29:59Certainly someone of Sunni Lee's caliber. But Austin had to eject at some point before this. He's way overextended.

30:07Rob:His basal metabolic rate. Yeah. Yeah, it's hard to pick one thing for Austin in here because it's just like he's in a bit of a free fall of his own making. He's going to really hurt somebody. It's one thing if you're just like helping people stretch. And if it's Josh, then we're not that worried about it. Nor Eunice, who clearly doesn't need any particular help in this way. But even if Chairwoman Park gets in a session, you could really injure her. When Austin's like, if you want to talk sometime before dinner in a public space, and Eunice is like, nah, I'm good. That's not what I want from you, my guy.

30:43Rob:A conversation is not what I'm after. It's pretty great. The scintillating repartee. Not what she's fishing for. Can I be honest with you? I would enjoy a long conversation with Austin. I would think you would find it really fun. All right, Ashley. Yeah. How can it not be the break-in that leads to Burberry getting out? It's got to be. I think sneaking into the house to get some revenge, orange juice theatrics included, if that's what you want to do, I'm not going to say fine. Orange juice theatrics at gmail.com if this were longer. There's a blood orange joke in there somewhere. I'm not going to make it.

31:15Rob:Do you want to reconsider doing the charades for Sydney, Sweeney, and Euphoria? For this, I absolutely do not. I will not be, you know what? We're just going to keep it moving. But yeah, like leaving the door open in the way that she does leading to Burfari's death, which she clearly takes very hard in addition to us, unacceptable. Really tough. All right. Whitest white nonsense. It's got to be the lady next door, right? That's a really good one. Get to the Hispanic walking down the street. That's me. You're Greek. Even just my son set this up for me. Now he lives with a woman in Guam. He married a woman in Guam.

31:50Rob:Are you Polynesian? Like, she's just... Very good. She takes the cake. She takes the chestnut pate. I think you're right, and she's on my list, but number one on my list is Lindsay apologizing to the coyote for being on its land before she kills it. Land acknowledgement to a coyote is wild. Before killing it is the ultimate white lady move, I think. Also, Lindsay, I mean, with love and respect to Burberry, Like, Lindsay running down the street yelling, cry yelling, Barry, mummy loves you, while squeaking the monkey. That felt fairly Caucasian to me. All of that. Her in the woods at the end before the coyote just yelling treats into the woods for sure.

32:34But I don't want to spare Josh from this, too, because when they're searching, he's driving around yelling, Burberry, it's your father.

32:43Rob:This show is so good. It's very good. But, oh, and last but not least, I will say Meredith, who is being bothered at her own child's birthday party, but nonetheless has time to tell her horrible child everyone is in charge of their own body in a way that felt fairly Caucasian to me. Gentle parenting. Yeah. Somebody has been oversubscribed to Instagram feeds. Yeah. I would rough it up that parenting on good old Jimmy is what I would do. So, yeah. Yeah. All right. A 24-iest moment. A 24-iest moment. I think this is just the fact that Burberry actually dies. and I say that because A24 for all of the like I don't know the ways that they can be satirized now in the lane that they've kind of drawn themselves into in terms of the sorts of things they produce when they want to get nasty they get their hands dirty it's James Franco sucking off a machine gun like it is neo-nazis running through a club it's a priest putting on an explosive vest like they'll get their hands dirty in a way that some other production companies like want to faint at They want a gesture to the darkness, but they're like, let's do it.

33:47Rob:Classic A24. I love that. The ants are back, though. The ants are... Not only are the ants here on Josh's coffee table, but Ashley has a whole... The ants streaming in and out of the tarot trap, and then in the morning, they're all dead. Yes. The time-lapse ant crawl. Yeah. With poison. You know, I did think everyone involved in this story at this point is just not concerned enough about the ants. I love a tarot trap. They're very effective. Very effective. Yeah, yeah. But even then, it's like you have an ant graveyard and nobody's exactly sweeping that stuff up. And then when Josh sees a bunch of ants streaming in around his food, he just quashes one quietly and emotionally.

34:30Rob:Rob, you know why? Why is that? There's rot in the mulch. There's so much rot in the mulch. And they're just ignoring the problem. I agree that they're ignoring the problem, but if you busy yourself by cleaning up the symptoms that surround the problem Sometimes it makes you feel better. Oh, is that better? It makes you feel better. Is it better? Remains to be seen. I will say also the vending machine full of red Gatorade felt very A24 to me. The hospital dream sequence. And then when Lindsay looks at the older woman enjoying her dessert and her newspaper, like sort of wistfully, like. Could be me.

35:02Rob:Could be me. Yeah. Without a man in my life. I love this future for me. That felt very A24 to me. Very A24. Also literally very A24. the whole like buffo trip that Josh goes on which somehow I would say takes him to like the very specific dark void from under the skin do not bring any drugs into my life that take me to that place I'm not interested in going there would you do toad hallucinogens is there a circumstance you would what if Charles Melton was there yeah I would need a Melton style guide Melton on chat GPT helping you through no see that actually has experience and doesn't just not even convincingly seem like they have experience You need a bufo sherpa.

35:40Rob:Yes. Okay, guys. A real bufo bro. Yeah. And he pretends to be one, but he's not one. Guess who I never want to meet in my life, a bufo bro. No. Absolutely not. Like, 10 times worse than an ayahuasca bro. Oh, that's for sure. And that's a bad vibe. Okay, we've already talked about diabolical manipulation. Realistic shot fire during an argument. There's a lot of candidates for this one. I think there's going to be a lot of candidates for every bunch of episodes we do. but I think it's the way that Burberry's escape turns into Josh and Lindsay like taking very direct aim at each other and I have written down specifically you do this you always need someone to blame so you distort reality to build some absurd narrative yikes in that same argument it would be Lindsay bringing the literal receipts when she goes oh you fucked up you fucked up wonderful brass doorstop order for you you goddamn fucking idiot with the date on it and then Josh on the other hand imitating your accent doing the like not so not so not so yeah like getting really petty inside of that and that argument will come back up in other categories obviously but that's it was a tremendous performance the ramp up of the pettiness between them has been wonderful and kind of culminating for me in the lindsey like I'm gonna fuck every guy over 5 '9 at this club very good again just knowing exactly what dagger to pull out to wound the person you're with yeah yeah um alright we've you've already touched on some himbo-ious, bimbo-ious stuff.

37:08Rob:Remind me what you called the JFK runs on our love story coverage. That's a trauma jog joke. Yeah. Austin going on some trauma jogs to avoid Lindsay post-surgery. Going through it. Him saying, it's a broken system faux show.

37:25Rob:And then when the aforementioned Olympian comes into his facility and he goes, what ails you? And strikes a sort of like thinking man pose. Very pensive. Yeah, very good. What else do you have? As far as other like himbo-y stuff, I think just having to recite the Gatorade sequence to himself as he walks down the hall so he doesn't forget it in 30 seconds. I would do that though. Would you? Yeah. I think you could remember. No, my memory's bad. You couldn't remember the list of four flavors? I might not have recited it out loud, but I would recite it in my own head, yes. Wow. Red, blue, yellow, no, purple, baby.

38:01Red, blue, yellow, no, purple, baby.

38:03Rob:I would already know my partner's Gatorade preference. That's the damning detail. Yeah, absolutely. Anything else? Turn a cold plunge into a gold plunge? Look, I think it's natural to be a little intimidated if you are pretending to be a profession that you're not, incredibly underqualified, and then met with Suni Lee, and being told that you're now responsible for her rehab and treatment. You're going to say some dumb things. Feels reasonable to me. Name drop slash celebrity cameo. I'm going to say it again. They got Suni Lee on the show. So an incredible cameo I was not expecting. Does it top Barry Davis for you?

38:42I think it does. And like all due respect to Suni Lee. Very much like athlete acting. Like pops in.

38:49Rob:Ditto Michael Phelps. Ditto. For sure. Like yes. Delivering some lines. Very brief appearance I imagine. Wooden. Woodish. Yes. Yeah. But they're doing their best. And in this case I found it genuinely shocking in a very funny way. Not Childish Gambino sharing the missing Burberry post. That one is very funny. Not Troy's Hans Zimmer call. Also great. Not literally Hot Chip showing up after you called out Hot Chip. I wanted to save that for another category. Okay, great. And then actually my favorite, weirdly, in the name drop, not actually showing up, is when they're giving Ava the hard sell on the trip and Ashley pulls out the like Shakira.

39:26Rob:And Ava goes, Shakira. Like repeats it back with reverence. To be clear, as far as celebrity endorsements go, if you told me Shakira did almost anything, I'd be like, it must work. I'll do it. It makes sense. The hips don't lie and neither does Shakira. This is the thing. You know? Okay. Most cutting critique of Gen Z. I actually thought they went a little lighter on the Gen Z. On both. Yes. Both generational things. And some of that is what you're talking about, right? We've shifted from generational to a little bit men and women being juxtaposed. I my question for you is, is it a critique of Austin or of Gen Z that he is such a pushover that he gives up the one flavor of Gatorade that that feels like an Austin?

40:02Rob:That's more of an Austin thing than a Gen Z thing. In that case, I'm going to go with Ashley's like being performatively very open. But as you said, we'll just like feign pain to get out of any conversation she doesn't want to be a part of. That's a great one. You really think Gen Z is an avoidant generation? shit not to play the stereotypes but like that to me is the social version of like pretending you're neurodivergent so you can have more time on the test not saying everyone's doing that i'm saying some people might be doing that okay um i think uh austin going straight to chad gpt for all of his needs but lindsey does it too does she when did she go to chad gpt so when she goes to talk to her friend about like her friend penelope who's getting divorced she was like she looked up on chat GPT and said she might be entitled to future wages.

40:49Rob:Cross-generational. Okay. We're all dead. Not knowing what a deductible is. That's every young generation. That's true. I remember when I was like, explain it to me slowly. Sometimes I still need greater insurance systems explained to me. The daily check on the phone as like a relationship repair. Is that a generational thing or is that cross-generational? That might be a generational thing. I suspect that's just like a certain kind of relationship period and a certain kind of person in that relationship period. But also, is the precipitating event for that just that he wasn't totally forthcoming about the Eunice situation?

41:22Rob:And it's weird because she's the one who took his phone and used it to text Eunice. And he knows that. Yeah. That's not a secret. I love the whole thing where she, like, she, you know, we're all very cognizant of the recently deleted it's come up a couple times. She goes in there. He goes in there to look for it. And it's gone. But then he very quickly has, like, Like Detective Austin on the case, he puts it together pretty quickly. Gotta give him credit. Yeah, just really shedding the himbo reputation left and right. Elder millennials. I do think it's lighter in the broad strokes, but throwing yourself ceaselessly into work because you don't know how to process your emotions only to then realize that all of the relationships in your life are transactional and the very delicate architecture you've built around everything that you are is crumbling around you.

42:09who could relate?

42:10Rob:If you show up at a manic state and ask everyone how the scones are, I will have some questions for you, Rob. I do think overall, we talked about Josh's hairstyle. It's getting increasingly harried. Like, whatever party is happening in the back is not a party I wouldn't be attending. Lindsay's saying you find yourself as a 40-year-old without the faintest idea of who you are. Oh, yeah. I have a bonus here. Yes. Which is, William Fichtner is technically a boomer. I looked it up. He's not even Gen X. He's a boomer. It's a straight boomer. These apps are killing us, man. It's the truest thing said on this show.

42:47Rob:Okay, boomer. Like, but complimentary. Okay, boomer. But in association, door dashing yourself a meal every night does feel like a very millennial thing to do. All right. Needle drop. See, I think this has to be like, again, Lindsay wandering around town in agony looking for Burberry as Josh has jet-setted to the ski chalet to wear a fur vest as he synthesizes with Hot Chip? Who gave him that fur vest? Where did it come from? I like to think one of the members of Hot Chip had it. Or do you think Troy just has like a closet full of fur accessories for people? Honestly, you know he does. There's a whole like room of skis, all the equipment necessary.

43:22And of course, the furs.

43:23Rob:The fur. The fur room in the chalet in Park City. Those are that saying. Okay, great. Oh, and also the way that that episode then bleeds into a Father John Misty outro. Father John Misty real love. Yeah. That's it for me. All right. Pop culture reference. Here's the thing that I've been dying to text you since I saw it. I think I know what it is. What do you think it is? I think it's the Top Gun Maverick bullet train situation. Is it not? Almost, but not. It's the Mezcal, Mezcal night. Because that is something I would quite literally die to attend and or throw. I had written down, we might need to get the whole prestige family together for a Mezcal, Mezcal night.

43:57Rob:I would love it. And After Sun is definitely included in the experience of the Mezcal, Mezcal night. have I ever told you that in college my friend and I used to throw what we called the bail features which were two Christian Bale movies back to back and we went through his entire filmography that way I love a pun name inside of a movie event that's my favorite thing to do so mescal mescal night I was like uh-oh do is Josh my soulmate or am I Josh on the pun front I've attended two like movie marathon screenings one Denzel Washington called the Denzel watching thawne great uh went to a tom cruise one cruise control great great uh this is how i know we're kindred spirits though joe is i and some friends would celebrate leonardo dicaprio's birthday every year november 11th with come you come in costume as a leo character at we started out watching like two to three leo movies it has become over time now almost not existent but like maybe we watch one and we would usually order pasta because he mentioned in like a teen people magazine interview When did you start doing this?

45:05I can't even remember. You were a teenager? I want to say it started when J. Edgar came out. So this has been a minute. So not a teenager, but into adulthood.

45:13Rob:And what a great, exciting project for you to start with. I'm animated by many things. So DiCaprio? Yes. The great problem, though, was in the same interview, he mentioned, this is like teenage Leonardo DiCaprio is being interviewed saying. Pussy Posse era. Yes, absolutely. Said his favorite food is pasta, so we got to get pasta. and he said his favorite drink was Fruitopia which is very hard to find now. I think we successfully did it one time. We sourced some. It did not hold up well. But if you have Fruitopia out there I'm interested in buying it. I genuinely if you have a Fruitopia hookup.

45:46Rob was like too stockpiling. That's the whole reason that we've done this podcast.

45:50Rob:Is there a fun name for your DiCaprio event? There's not. This is what I'm realizing. I fucking missed the boat on that. Okay. Press HGV at Spotify.com if you know what Rob should name his DiCaprio event. Yes. Yeah. I it's my literal favorite. There should be like a tie in food theme. Yep. A fun name. Naturally. And a movie of some kind. The reason I was wondering if it happened when you were started when you were a teenager because you were able to cite a teen interview of his favorite food. That's just deep research. My friend. I'm not like a I actually do not give a shit about the royal family.

46:24Rob:But when we were teenagers, my friend Hillary and I every year used to make all of our friends celebrate Prince William's birthday as a joke. we would make a cake and then we would watch royal themed movies on Prince William's birthday this is a great bit I know bits are fun movie marathons are fun party planner Joanna Robinson High Marks all around Mescal, Mescal night is so good again I think it might have to happen for us let's do it alright I love that but yeah the Top Gun Maverick moment so good also Zero as Oppenheimer was also a great shots fired from from our girl I also think as far as like relationship critiques and snipes go having secret resentment because you couldn't go see Top Gun Maverick because your partner had COVID.

47:03There is a reality to that.

47:05Rob:And also your hatred of Bullet Train where you just like, what a downgrade from Top Gun Maverick to Bullet Train. I mean, that's your guy. He's not my guy. I just like him better than you like him. Okay. David Leitch, Joanna Robinson, the number one super fan of David Leitch. My, actually, my, on the Atomic Blonde DVD case is a pull quote from my review. What's it?

47:28Rob:I think that's the only DVD case I'm on is the Atomic Blonde DVD case. You're not going to dodge the allegations. No, I guess not. I'm sorry to say. All right, eat the rich. What do you have? Where are we eating the rich this week? I actually think Troy does an extraordinarily nice thing for Josh in these episodes in terms of whisking him away and trying to get his mind off it. Organizing a chalet party. A chalet party on a moment's notice. Hot chip on speed dial. But that's the thing. Like getting a hot chip and a full party within, I don't know, two and a half hours. How long does it take to fly to Park City?

47:57Rob:Yeah, like a couple hours on the PJ. They were wheels up in 40 minutes, very short flight, then to the chalet. The turnaround on that is pristine rich people shit. I have to wonder though, well, there must be a private airport outside of Park City because it takes a minute to get there from the Salt Lake City airport, but there's probably something. For the PJs, yes. For the PJs outside of Park City. And along those lines, I did look up, Joe, the Yamazaki 25-year whiskey, single malt that they drink. Would you like to take a guess at how much it costs a bottle? A bottle, not a glass. Let me give you, I mean, just off the top, notes of sandalwood, persimmon, some ume, some ginger.

48:36How much do you think one bottle of Yamazaki 25-year-old single malt whiskey costs?

48:41Rob:Four figures. Yes. $7 ,000 a bottle. That's why Josh is like, yeah, you know what? I will have some. And fair enough. I was really judging, like, honestly, under worst mistake, I kind of think going to Park City when your dog is missing and not yet declared dead. And he's like, we're all grieving Burberry in different ways. And Lindsay's like, I'm actually out here looking for Burberry was a pretty big mistake. I do think, oh, shit, we're in your chalet. This is not bode well is like a great line. Here's where I'm eating the rich. I'm eating the rich in the steam room. And here's why. Eucalyptus steam, honestly, 10 out of 10.

49:17Rob:It's a great experience. And I, too, have been to a spot where the eucalyptus steam was not eucalyptusing. And I didn't complain, but that is like a different. But you thought about complaining. No. You registered the complaint internally. I was just like, this isn't the same without the eucalyptus. It's not hitting. But here's what I hate about the rich people who attend this club, how they're always asking for free shit from Josh. Can you comp this? His doctor friend, right? Like, you know, can I get a free round of golf? Not during peak hours. Okay, during peak hour. So that's four people, right?

49:47Yeah, exactly.

49:48Rob:And like all the, you know, the people in the steam room, Josh is like, I'll comp this. I'll comp that. I'm just like, these people have more. These people can afford$7 ,000 bottles of whiskey and they are constantly cheaping it up. It's eat them. Eat them up. This is the secret about rich people is they all want free shit. Eat them up poached in eucalyptus steam. You know what I mean? All right. Last but not least, living out with the beef. We're just straight back in the pit. This is an episode of the pit. Okay. When Austin was like, where are the Filipino nurses? Princess Perla, where are you?

50:24Rob:Anything you want to say specifically? I'll say this. Not to like harsh the mellow or whatever. But as part of like my whole health thing last year, I had an oophorectomy and that's when I learned what that was. So when I saw Ashley on the table and they're like oophorectomy, I was like, oh, fuck, they're taking her ovary out. Like I know that specific word. And so when she woke up and they're like, everything's fine. I was like, this is a fucking like even before it became like very clear. It was a dream. I was like, this is no way. There's no way she's OK. $27 ,000 debt over a DiGiorno. Here's over over maybe Hot Pocket.

51:03Rob:No, they're eating DiGiorno as they're talking about their debts. But yes, chicken bacon, chicken bacon ranch. Hot Pocket. Wouldn't recommend. Um, and I would say the app we signed up for to help with our finances canceled. The writing is very good. Writing is very good. I do think just the general extended comedy routine around the insurance industrial complex. It is a broken system for show, as you mentioned, Joe, like even just like they can't target you. There's laws and stuff like all of these ways in which they are trying to wrangle. Yeah. Being in the hospital, paying for being in the hospital.

51:39Ashley's like, it's kind of heartbreaking, but also kind of funny how much she's like being told, like we removed her ovary and she's like, how much did it cost? Like it has to be the first reaction to basically everything.

51:48Rob:Is this covered? That's a billing question while she's like under anesthesia. It's a billing question. It's heartbreaking. But the terrifying parts of being in the hospital, also kind of living out in their own way. This is a more hellacious ER environment than anything we saw in the pit. The moment where Ashley is looking across at the person in the other bed and there are like four different bodily fluids pooling at their feet. That's what I mentioned in the A24 sort of, like, what were those fluids? And then when the 5150 walks by, like, tit out, just being like, it's too late, like, what's happening?

52:22Rob:I miss that on the him... Well, tit out. Tit out. Yeah. Just the one. I miss that on the himbo category. Austin trying to pull the, like, 5150. She's the 5150. That's not... Well, as we discussed on The Pit, who like the greatest villains on that show have been over the course of season two. Is the blonde nurse the greatest villain on this show? Kind of. But maybe also Josh withholding medical care. Josh, very bad. Yeah. Ashley's dad, not the greatest villain, but like sucks. I'm saying absentee Gen X is kind of interesting. What's going on with her mom? I don't know. We will get a consummated contact with her mom this season, I would think.

53:03I hope so.

53:03Rob:So is that why she's like latching onto Lindsay in an interesting way? I don't know. I wouldn't be surprised. I don't know. All right. Anything else you want to talk about in this stretch of episodes? I am eager to see how the greater concerns about Chairwoman Parks' businesses. We haven't touched on that at all. But like, you know, that's, I mean, she had someone killed. She had, so if I'm tracking this correctly. Yeah, let's talk about Woosh. Woosh is her first husband's, her ex-husband's son with another woman. That is my understanding. The question I had when she was having that conversation with him was like, he was like, well, then I wouldn't exist.

53:42Rob:But like the way she responded to that, I was like, was there overlap? Was this a child that he had with another woman while he was still married to her? She seems to have a lot of regret around, you know, he seemed to have been like maybe the love of her life in some way. or I don't know the nature of their divorce, but that all seemed quite messy. And then she has looked out for him in his life. I love that when she was like, you know you look more like your mother right before she offed him. Also, here's the thing about, the reason I was surprised by that, I wasn't surprised that she wasn't going to promote him to VP, that he was in trouble.

54:17Rob:It was the alacrity in which she had that, because when did she make that call? Yeah. he got hit on the way out of her house. Does she have a little button under a table that she, you know, it's like a Matt Lauer button that she pushes and she's like a truck comes speeding by a hundred percent. Those people are on speed dial. This is like a very powerful woman who is not fucking around. Is that truck just idling around the corner and just waiting for the button to be pushed? I guess there is like a non-zero chance. Actually, there's not that it's pure coincidence that it's not chairwoman park orchestrated has to be her.

54:51She definitely killed that himbo. Just with the swiftness.

54:54Rob:Yeah. He went out full of lasagna. I mean, I would like to. If I'm going to pick a time, there are worse times to go. And so, yeah, Woosh is her not son, son of her ex-husband, who is, at least as far as we understand now, not related to her in any actual way. I don't believe so. And Eunice is her translator and aide and confidant in the way that those translators tend to be, but not actually biologically related to her. But they were all sleeping and staying in the same house. Right. Yeah. And Woosh had the invoice information, but Eunice has a clue as to what is on the case about what's going on with this malpractice.

55:29Rob:Yeah. She is actively snooping in a way that Woosh just had to have the evidence thrown at him by Ashley, basically. And I do think if there were an investigation, right, into Chairwoman Park's broader enterprise vis-a-vis Dr. Kim's medical practice because of a wrongful death in Korea, would they really be like interviewing Woosh? No. Eunice, yes. Woosh, I don't know why Woosh is on the witness, you know, the inquiry list. Other than maybe there's some impression. Well, because he's involved in the clinic because he was like. well but getting people to go to the clinic but at that point it was like under the table i would think like relatively quiet maybe maybe he was on commission or something in like a more formal capacity than we've been let on but i guess credit to the soul police for being incredibly thorough um we we know that they are we know that they are okay um yeah but chairwoman park i'm interested to see how that all angles of this story i'm really excited for episode seven and eight i think how those elements of the story continue to impact what's going on with Josh and Lindsay and Austin and Ashley.

56:36Rob:Do you think we're going to Korea? Like are Lindsay and Ashley and Ava going? Girls trip? We've already been. On the PJ? We've already been some. No, but like are we like is the whole story going to Korea? I would love it. I would love it too. I really hope that's the turn it's taking. You can only stay at the country club so long. You know? Let's get out. Let's stretch our legs. I think we've lingered too long at the country club. Too much eucalyptus steam up the nostrils. Maybe so. So to recap, If you have access to Fruitopia, please let Rob know. If you had an idea of what he should call his annual Leonardo DiCaprio celebration.

57:0811-11.

57:10Rob:Follow-up question. Can you please now list—I'm so sorry. I did not do my due diligence. Yeah. What are the various DiCaprio characters that you have shown up as over the years? I'm so glad you asked. Definitely when it's him in the basketball diaries. Definitely when it's him in Catch Me If You Can, specifically when he shows up to the airport and is waiting outside and tilts up his sunglasses just so to gauge whether the police are there. I knew it was going to be because she can't. I mean, got to be in there. Actually, I know we've talked about this before because I've shown you one of the costumes, which is a Vanity Fair photo that he took in which his neck is wrapped by a swan.

57:42Rob:The swan photo. I don't know that you told me what event it was, but you did tell me. You dressed up as DiCaprio with the swan around your neck. I have seen that photo. As one does. And that's because we had to open it up. Over time, it's like there's only so many roles despite his massive filmography. Like you got to broaden your horizons. And so it became, if you can find a photo of Leonardo DiCaprio and emulate it, the world is your oyster. Whether he's talking about pasta or not in that interview. It might be. Is the swan around the neck, is that the best DiCaprio costume that has happened or has one of your friends outshone you in any way?

58:16I mean, it's definitely my best. I made the swan. So like, I mean, that's, these are the levels I'm willing to go through for Leonardo DiCaprio apparently.

58:25Rob:You're a very special person. Thank you. All right. So, yeah, please get back to Rob about Fruitopia or naming his DiCaprio event. Thank you to Dev Rinaldo for their work on this episode. Jacob Cornett, thanks to Kai Grady. Thanks to all of you for listening or watching us. We'll be back with 7 and 8 sometime later this week. And more Euphoria continues at pace. Can't wait. See you soon. Bye.

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