AI’s Power Problem, Have We Passed Peak Social Media? and How to Save Democracy

31 Oct 2025 · 21 min

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Podcast Title The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway

Episode Title AI’s Power Problem, Have We Passed Peak Social Media? and How to Save Democracy

Episode Description In this episode, Scott Galloway addresses listener questions regarding the increasing demand AI is placing on the U.S. power grid, the potential peak of social media usage, and how economic boycotts can serve as checks on political power.

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Key Themes and Discussions

  1. AI’s Impact on the Power Grid
  2. Energy Consumption by Data Centers
  3. In 2023, U.S. data centers accounted for 4.4% of total U.S. energy consumption.
  4. Projections suggest this could rise to 7-12% by 2028.
  5. Economic Implications
  6. Rising demand from AI and cloud services is driving up electricity prices.
  7. Data center expansions could lead to an 8% average increase in electricity bills by 2030.
  8. Government Policies and Infrastructure Needs
  9. Galloway criticizes the government for rolling back renewable energy projects, hindering potential solutions to the energy crisis.
  10. He advocates for a progressive tax structure to fund grid upgrades and offset costs for the middle class.
  1. The Decline of Social Media Engagement
  2. Trends in Social Media Usage
  3. Data indicates that time spent on social media peaked in 2022 and has since decreased by almost 10%.
  4. Particularly, younger demographics (teens and 20s) show a significant decline in usage.
  5. Shift from Connection to Consumption
  6. Social media is transitioning from platforms for personal connection to sites dominated by mindless scrolling and AI-generated content.
  7. Many users now report using these platforms to fill time rather than to engage with friends and family.
  1. Economic Boycotts as Political Tools
  2. Voting with Your Wallet
  3. Galloway discusses the efficacy of economic boycotts, like those against Disney Plus, as a means to address political issues.
  4. Targeted Actions vs. General Strikes
  5. He differentiates between broad economic strikes and focused boycotts that can attract media attention and drive changes in behavior from corporations.
  6. Challenges and Effects
  7. Specific boycotts may be more effective than general strikes in creating tangible change.
  8. The impact of economic actions is often linked to the media attention they generate, rather than direct financial consequences.

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Key Takeaways

  • AI's burgeoning demand on the U.S. power grid necessitates government intervention and infrastructure investment.
  • Social media appears to be reaching a saturation point, with users increasingly dissatisfied with the platforms' focus on ad revenue over genuine connection.
  • Economic boycotts can serve as powerful tools in the political landscape, but must be strategically targeted to garner real attention and change.

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Conclusion Scott Galloway's insights reveal critical intersections between technology, energy consumption, social media dynamics, and political activism. His calls for a more equitable tax structure and targeted economic actions highlight the need for systemic changes in response to contemporary challenges.

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2:10Again, that's officehoursofprofgmedia.com. Or post your question on the Scott Galloway subreddit, and we may feature it in our next episode. First question. Our first question comes from Reddit. Thank you, Mr. Uppercut asks, Hi, Scott. A lot of people theorize about eventual UBI when AI takes all the jobs. But why are we not getting an energy subsidy right now? Data centers across the country are using so much power, the demand is pushing prices up for everyone. Sam Altman recently said OpenAI will need 250 gigawatts to power their data centers. Why aren't these multi-billion dollar companies being forced to subsidize everyone else's rising electricity bills?

2:47What can be done to lessen the stranglehold AI has on this facet of our lives? Okay, this is becoming an increasingly interesting topic. AI models are incredibly energy hungry. In 2023, U.S. data centers consumed about 4.4 % of total U.S. power. The Department of Energy projects that could double by 2028, reaching 7 to 12 % of national demand. Meanwhile, companies are racing to build hyperscale campuses, often in states with cheap land, weak regulation, and fragile grids. This rapid growth is driven by AI, cloud services, and more compute-intensive workloads. But the pressure is very real, and data centers are very much behind the increasing prices on the supply side.

3:24Data published this month by the Labor Department showed that electricity prices rose 5.6 % over the past year. More broadly, consumer prices increased 2.7%. Research from North Carolina State and Carnegie Mellon indicates that data center expansion could drive up average electricity bills by 8 % nationwide by 2030. And here's the thing, as we're debating about how we can make big tech pay for the power it uses, the government is canceling the cheapest, fastest way to generate more of it. Nevada had the lowest increase in electricity prices in the entire nation despite rising demand, thanks largely to a massive amount of solar it's built.

3:58And what do you know we're counting subsidies to solar. Meanwhile, Trump administration just canceled the Esmeralda 7 project, a 6.2 gigawatt solar and battery farm in Nevada. It would have powered nearly 2 million homes, but it was scrapped as part of a wider rollback on renewables. The bottom line is, if you think of electricity as a public good, that means we're going to need big government. I'm a huge fan of infrastructure investments, and that is the Eurostar here, which can get you to downtown Paris in two and a half hours. It makes no economic sense from a shareholder perspective, but it makes sense from a stakeholder perspective as it increases fluidity and mobility and such that we can do more business with France or the UK can do more business with France and vice versa.

4:43And it's a huge unlock for people to see their families spend money, encourages economic activity. I think it's insane we don't have a high rail speed system up and down the West and East Coast of America. all roads lead to the same fucking place. And that is corporations who are paying their lowest tax rates since 1939 need an alternative minimum tax. It's not even their tax rates. It's the fact that there's so many loopholes around being able to, you know, now they can directly expense CapEx in the first year. The middle class is an accident. And the only way you continue to support it is with a redistribution of income.

5:17I don't think you can say to PowerCum or to AI, you need to pay for an upgrade in the electric grid grid. What I think you can say is that corporations need to have an alternative minimum tax of, say, 30 or 40 percent, such that we have the capital to upgrade the grid. What you can also do is as states compete for these large data storage or these large data centers, part of that might include, all right, you have to make some investments in the grid, because just this uptick in costs or this uptick in demand is likely going to hit middle-class households pretty hard. So just as I'm thinking the type of regulation, just as I'm thinking when they build condos in New York that are going to go to mega millionaires, they demand that they build a park or sometimes they demand that a certain percentage of the units go to low-income or artist housing to try and keep the city diverse.

6:12I think something along those lines. But then again, the states are competing against each other. I think all roads lead to the same place, and that is we need a more progressive tax structure on the wealthiest Americans and corporations, so we have the capital to make the kind of upgrades to our grid that will meet the additional demand, and also investment or redistribution from corporations and the wealthy to the middle class. And one efficient way for that redistribution is an investment in infrastructure and how do you pay for it with a progressive tax structure that just enforces the tax code.

6:50$750 billion tax gap, meaning that you don't have to raise taxes, you just need to collect the taxes that are owed by the wealthiest 1 % who weaponize the tax code, are very sophisticated tax attorneys such that they can delay, obfuscate, or just evade paying taxes. Not a hopeful message, not a hopeful message, but anyways, a thoughtful question. I appreciate you submitting your query. Power up. Question number two. I recently read an article in the Financial Times entitled, Have We Passed Peak Social Media? This tied into the trends I've been seeing with fewer friends on fewer platforms. Facebook has long been my favorite platform, but of late the algorithm seems to only want me to see lame videos and content from groups and pages that I don't follow, on top of the ads, of course, with increasingly rare posts from actual friends.

7:42I still have an excessive need for my friends and family to enjoy my obviously exceptional photography and excessively handsome and impressive boys. But whether from AI or influencer slop, the social media companies seem hell-bent on turning the product into anti-social media, only encouraging us to engage in content from folks we don't know or who may not even exist at all. I can't make sense of that as a sustainable business model. Can you? Thanks for your insight. Thanks for the question. So data from the FTE article shows that time spent on social media peaked in 2022 and has been in a steady decline since.

8:14At the end of 2024, users aged 16 and older spent an average of two hours and 20 minutes a day on social platforms, down by almost 10 % since 2022. Surprisingly, the decline is most pronounced among teens and 20-year-olds. The decline can be attributed to the evolution of social media from a place to connect and share with friends and family to one of doom-scrolling through hours of content posted by strangers and increasingly AI. It's now kind of, arguably, you would argue that it's anti-social media. And the number of people who report using social platforms to stay in touch with friends, express themselves, or meet new people has fallen by more than 25 % since 2014.

8:50And some, it's not connecting us, it's disconnecting us. More and more users have been reporting opening up these apps to fill spare time, making a shift from mindful social engagement to mindless browsing. Meanwhile, Meta and OpenAI have released new AI-generated social content platforms and what we've called the great slopification, if you will. So look, how do these companies continue to grow their revenues? They use AI to do a better job of targeting. I mean, I'm sure you have a couple of those moments where you just get chills down your spine where I'm talking on the phone about going to Paris and the next thing I know, I get served an ad for a hotel in Paris.

9:23It's like, okay, someone's listening. It's just their targeting has become so strong that they can just deliver to advertisers the right person at the right moment and the right product, if you will. and their CPMs are the prices they can charge have gone up. I haven't been on Facebook in 15 years. So that's not, I'm just not that, I'm just not that familiar with it. But I wouldn't worry about them. I think young people are actually smarter than we give them credit for. And a lot of teens are deciding it's unhealthy for them. I think my colleague, Jonathan Haidt, is having an impact. And schools are banning phones in schools.

9:57So I think just as it took 20 years to figure out opiates and then kind of 30 years to figure out cigarettes, It feels like it's taken us about 20 years to figure out sort of the phone and social media and recognize that the more kids are on social media, the worse they feel about themselves and the more likely they are to engage in self-harm. I'm addicted to social media. I go on it a lot. I'm probably on it, I don't know, probably like two hours a day. I'd like to think a lot of it's for learning. I like to get the clips of interesting news stories and interesting views from economists and who you follow and who you curate.

10:32but this business model of keeping you glued to your phone is working really well. 40 % of the S &P by market capitalization is from firms that either enrage you to engage you or sequester you from your friends and family and other media. So if you think about social media algorithms, they purposely put some negative comments in there, elevate content that will both inspire you, Great Danes playing with babies, which is what I like, but also content showing ice that just enrages me, but I can't help, but I can't look away. So they know how to keep you glued to your phone. And AI, quite frankly, you know, those prompts at the end, would you like bullet points or would you like me?

11:15My son's applying to college. So I'm curious about all these different schools. And I'll say, would you like me to compare this university versus this one? Or what is the likelihood that someone applying from the UK would get into these schools? And they're just genius. And they test a million times a second. what would be an offer for an additional prompt that would keep this person engaged. Now, are they enraging you on AI as they do on YouTube or with Meta or X? No. But what they're doing is making it almost impossible to look away from the screen such that you're sequestering from your friends and family and real world relationships and also synthetic relationships, which is quite frankly my biggest concern right now, that young people, especially young men who are more neurologically sensitive, are engaging in these low friction, low effort relationships with character AIs and starting basically to rush home and get advice from their AI friend or maybe get their AI girlfriend to take off her clothes and slowly but surely not engaging in the messy, difficult prospect of what is a real world relationship.

12:29And engaging in those real world relationships, specifically the friction and difficulty of them, trains you to be a more competent, skilled human being and develop real victory. And AI will just keep telling you you're amazing and being encouraging and empathetic, but don't cry for me, Argentina. you know, these companies are still sequestering you from more and more media. They have regulatory capture. They show up. They give the president a rub and tug or an engraved trophy from Tim Cook. I can't. What's the point of having all the fucking money if you've got to go bend a knee in the White House?

13:01But they're all doing it. And then so Trump tariffs everyone but the big tech companies. So that's the transfer of value from the companies trying to fit. Imagine how you're trying to plan your business if you're Caterpillar or Ford right now. So are you going to go to work for them and invest them? No, just invest in meta. And then the most recent AI legislation basically says to the AI companies that they can molest the IP of any company in the world and not have to pay them a licensing fee. So these companies, don't worry about them. They are doing exceptionally well economically. Appreciate the question.

13:34We'll be right back after a quick break.

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16:51Welcome back. On to our final question, which comes from Reddit user isophdjd, I think. And they asked, the boycott of Disney Plus showed voting with your wallet can work and work faster in the era of Trump. With Trump claiming that the U.S. is under attack from an internal insurrection, should organizations, including the Olympics, FIFA, and other high-profile events publicly call into question the viability of hosting these events in the U.S. if Trump's claims are true? This would hurt Trump's pride and cut into his grift of these events. Do you think this and similar efforts by businesses and community would help preserve our democracy?

17:27Okay, so what did Bob Dylan say? The money doesn't talk, it swears. Look, there are few organizations more corrupt than international athletic bodies, whether it's the IOC or FIFA. You know, they operate in this nether-netherland. They take bribes, and it basically goes to the highest bidder. Fine. They're not about sport. They're about making a shit ton of money. Okay. And by the way, I think the NCAA is corrupt. okay let's pay people in kansas four hundred thousand dollars a year to pass regulations and pay the white guy the white 55 year old guy the coach three million a year but the black 19 year old no no no he doesn't get any money on the basketball court because that the purity of the game they figured out a way to again transfer money from non-whites to whites but more so from young to old.

18:23So look, I don't know if that specifically works. What I do buy is the idea of an economic strike, and that is voting with your wallet. And that is what Trump listens to is the economy. The thing that scared the shit out of Trump and backed him off the tariffs initially was the 10-year spiking. And I wonder if right now America is a big bet on AI, and that is the reason why Trump feels emboldened to send troops into Portland and Chicago is because the S &P is up 14%. And America, who is increasingly just about, America for the most part is just, I want more stuff. That's how I would describe the promise of America.

19:03So as long as the markets go up, people think, oh, I should be able to buy more stuff. So whatever Trump is doing, regardless of censoring late night talk show hosts or sending masked secret service or secret police into a county. As long as my stocks are up and my 401k goes up, he must be doing something right. And that is being driven by AI right now. 75 % of the gains in earnings and 72 % of the increase in the stock market has come from just 10 companies. So the idea of an economic strike that takes the economy down temporarily or scares the shit out of a company is really powerful. Now, general strikes are harder to pull off.

19:45I think if I were going to try and organize a general strike, I'd want to play on or target, if you will, or try and convince the wealthy. The wealthiest 10 % of Americans now account for 50 % of consumer spending, and the wealthy could take their spending down 10 % or 20%, no problem. It's hard for the middle class to reduce their spending by 10 % because they're starting to cut into things like rent and groceries. But the wealthy, especially in this era, have become such conspicuous consumers, they could take it down by 10 % or 20%. Would they? I don't know. What has been more effective is a specific call to action with a specific outcome.

20:20So organically, Ted Cruz and Tucker Carlson are pissed off about a late-night talk show host being canceled. and then people on the left just don't like anything Trump does. So there's an organic pushback and people start taking pictures, screenshots of Disney Plus being canceled. That is very actionable, very visible, because typically it's not the economic strike itself that foments change. Most economic strikes or boycotts result in about a 1 % decline in that stock, so almost meaningless. The way they're effective is the media attention, the negative media attention they bring to the individual.

20:59So Bob Iger, basically, who not once but twice spent the knee to Trump, backed down when all of a sudden there was a ton of press around all of these people canceling Disney Plus and ESPN Plus. And he basically said, after speaking with Jimmy, yeah, fuck you, Bob. Jesus Christ, you're Neville Chamberlain in a cashmere sweater minus the dignity. So an economic strike against the Olympics? No, I don't think that works. When we boycotted Russia, they then boycotted us. I don't think it had any impact on either nation. But a targeted specific attack, if you will, or boycott that creates media attention and is somewhat organic, I think, words.

21:40I've heard ideas ranging from Home Depot, which has been accused of cooperating with ICE, to transferring or canceling your AT &T phone contract, who is also supposedly coordinating, I believe, with ICE and going to another phone carrier. So I don't think what you're proposing works, but I do think the idea of an economic strike has real merit. I'm beginning to believe that is probably the only, one of the few ways, one of the most effective ways that consumers could, if you will, check back or create a co-equal branch of government. I think it needs to be targeted with a specific company and a specific ask.

22:20Thanks for the question. That's all for this episode. If you'd like to submit a question, please email a voice recording to officehoursofprop2media.com. That's officehoursofprop2media.com. Or if you prefer to ask on Reddit, just post your question on the Scott Galloway subreddit and we just might feature it in an upcoming episode.

22:42This episode was produced by Jennifer Sanchez. Our assistant producer is Laura Janair. Drew Burrows is our technical director. Thank you for listening to the Prop G pod from Prop G Media. Thank you.

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Scott Galloway answers listener questions on AI’s growing strain on the U.S. power grid, why we may have reached peak social media, and how economic boycotts can serve as a check on political power.

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