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The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway: Episode Summary
Episode Details
- Title: Is the Golden Age of Luxury E-commerce Over? The Nuances of Remote Work, and How Does Scott Manage His Time?
- Description: Scott Galloway discusses the current state of luxury e-commerce, the implications of remote work, and strategies for effective time management.
Key Topics and Discussions
- State of Luxury E-commerce
- Current Trends:
- The luxury e-commerce sector is facing significant challenges, including:
- The sale of Matches Fashion for only $66 million after failing to meet business targets.
- Farfetch's financial struggles, which involved a $500 million bridge loan to avoid bankruptcy.
- Industry Analysis:
- Scott argues that the luxury e-commerce market is evolving into oligopolies as larger players gain dominance.
- Historical context: Similar patterns occurred in traditional retail during the 2000s, where established brands adapted to direct-to-consumer models.
- Key Point: Luxury brands that once resisted online sales (e.g., Chanel, Hermes) are now embracing e-commerce due to changing market dynamics.
- The Rise of Remote Work and Gender Dynamics
- Emerging Trends:
- The concept of the "remote husband" is gaining traction as men increasingly take on roles that allow them to work from home while their partners, often women, pursue in-person careers.
- Data Insights:
- A McKinsey survey indicates that a higher percentage of men have options for remote work compared to women, revealing gender disparities in work flexibility.
- Scott's Perspective:
- He recognizes that remote work can provide significant benefits for caregivers but warns that it could hinder socialization and career advancement for younger workers.
- Conclusion: Balancing remote work with in-person opportunities is crucial for long-term professional development.
- Time Management Strategies
- Scott's Approach:
- Scott emphasizes the importance of leveraging a good team to manage multiple roles effectively.
- He categorizes tasks into three buckets:
- Have to Do: Essential commitments (e.g., obligations to investors).
- Want to Do: Personal desires (e.g., leisure activities).
- Should Do: Tasks that are not essential or desired; Scott advises eliminating these.
- Practical Tips:
- Outsourcing tasks (e.g., cleaning, meal preparation) can free up time for more valuable pursuits.
- Focusing on core competencies and delegating non-essential duties can enhance productivity.
Key Takeaways
- Luxury E-commerce Challenges: The industry is shifting towards consolidation, with larger brands overshadowing smaller players due to market forces and evolving consumer preferences.
- Remote Work Dynamics: The rise of remote work offers flexibility but may also impact socialization and career advancement, particularly for younger employees.
- Effective Time Management: Identifying and focusing on high-value activities while delegating or eliminating lower-value tasks can lead to increased productivity and satisfaction.
Conclusion Scott Galloway provides a multi-faceted analysis of luxury e-commerce, remote work trends, and time management strategies, emphasizing the need for adaptation in rapidly changing environments. His insights highlight the importance of leveraging resources effectively to thrive in both personal and professional spheres.
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Transcript
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1:21Welcome to the Profit Pod's Office Hours. This is the part of the show where we answer your questions about business, big tech, entrepreneurship, and whatever else is on your mind. In last week's Office Hours, I answered your questions surrounding TikTok, the toxic culture of investment banking, and being an older dad. That hurts. That hurts. I think my producer just called me old. You should see me naked. I look 58 and 7 8ths. The propaganda tool is off the table. I think it's going away, but they'll say, well, if we're definitely going to lose the propaganda tool, we don't want to lose a quarter of a trillion dollars.
1:53And I believe they will come to some sort of accommodation that makes the White House comfortable and where ByteDance gets to keep that quarter of a trillion dollars. I don't think your TikTok is going to go away. I think this will end up in an agreement. People should care about you. And whoever your bosses are that are letting you work to the point of exhaustion, to where it's really impacting your mental and your physical health, then quite frankly, that's not B of A. It's those people's fault. Whoever is the VP that you're, or the VPs that you're reporting into, whoever runs your group, are not decent people.
2:32You should look forward to having kids. It's never the right time. I find it's kind of never the right time to have kids. You just kind of kind of, I don't know, pull the goalie and see what happens. You don't need to anguish over this. You're going to have to be in a relationship, to have kids with someone you like, to have a good job. 40 years old and having a kid, that is the sweet spot. Today, we'll answer your questions about luxury commerce, the rise of the remote husband, and time management, the rise of the remote husband. Jesus Christ, what the fuck is that? Okay, here we go. first question.
3:06Hi, Prof G. This is Toby from the UK. Given your background in luxury and e-commerce, what do you think happens next in the luxury e-tailor space? The recent downfall of matches fashion, sale of Farfetch for a song, and with private equity said to be circling some of the remaining players, is luxury e-commerce of third-party brands any longer a viable model, than was it ever in the first place. Thanks for the podcast, your candor, vulnerability, and humor. I'm a Londoner, and I'd love to take you for lunch when you're next in town. Thanks for the thoughtful question, Toby, from the UK. So is the golden age of luxury commerce over?
3:45So many experts think so. Some context with respect to some of the things you reference. Matches fashion was recently bought in December and then shut down by the Fraser Group. Although it was once worth over a billion dollars, It was sold for only$66 million because it routinely missed business targets. Then things worsened when new owners took over. Brand partners left due to delayed payments, and the firm endured harsh cost reduction strategies in December 2023. So just a few months ago, Farfetch, which was a darling, another major player in luxury commerce, barely escaped bankruptcy after Korean e-commerce group, I think it's called Coupang, acquired the firm and propped it up with a$500 million bridge loan.
4:21And experts believe Farfetch's financial struggles reflect broader issues within the industry, including poor management decisions, overstocking, and a crowded market. I think what happened with luxury commerce basically happened to traditional retail back in the aughts. And that is there were – so big companies are slow. So you had companies like Williams-Sonoma or Sephora kind of taking their time, not sure how they wanted to approach some of the brand challenges of selling online. They weren't set up for direct consumer fulfillment of sending things in onesies and twosies. And into that void slipped a bunch of e-commerce companies that started selling stuff.
4:59Do you remember Gilt? G-I-L-T. That was after 2008, there was a tremendous inventory overload. And a lot of these companies needed cash quick. So they sent their stuff. I think even brands, you know, luxury brands sent their stuff to Gilt. And they cleared it out for them and got them cash fast. And then when the economy came back, they no longer needed to sell stuff on discount and recognize that that was bad for their brand. And then a lot of the brands themselves from William Snowman to Sephora started going direct to consumer. Even manufacturers brands like Estee Lauder built their own websites and developed really strong direct to consumer e-commerce sites.
5:30The last holdouts were luxury. Chanel did not have, did not sell online. I remember advising Chanel and them saying, and Hermes said the same thing, we will never sell online. And it's easy to, in retrospect, put yourself on the back and I'm saying, of course you're going to sell online. You're going to sell through every channel. Why wouldn't you? Their view was that online was the septic tank and it was bad for the brand and they needed the full experience in the store. And of course now they're all selling online. And so that void that was temporarily filled by players, including Net-A-Porter, remember them, has been that gap, if you will, or that void has been filled by the manufacturers' brands themselves and the bigger players, the really big players.
6:12I still think that Amazon, you know, Amazon doesn't have the luxury players, but it does have aspirational brands on there. And so the combination of the proprietary product catching up in terms of technology, the capital, and then one player that commands 50 % market share of online purchases, you essentially don't have a lot of room for undercapitalized players or for players that don't have access to proprietary brand or distribution. You know, Hermes just isn't going to distribute through a third-party player unless it's a second-hand thing. So what you've seen is effectively everyone's been crowded out.
6:48This goes to a broader issue in that I believe almost every industry is turning into an oligopoly and that if and when we finally decide we need to address our ills in terms of too much debt, spending way too much money on the next generation's credit card to prop up our own prosperity from the kind of the incumbents, I think one of the things we're going to need to do to oxygenate the economy and maintain growth is is essentially we're going to need to fertilize the entire economy. Every industry, I don't care if it's pharma, chicken, search, social, big tech, cloud, for God's sakes, AI has created more shareholder value than the entire global auto industry in the last 90 days.
7:27And what do you know? It's the same old players. They do this jazz hands. Oh no, it's called Anthropic. Call it Amazon. Oh no, it's called OpenAI. Call it Microsoft. It's the same fucking players. And despite their attempts to pretend that they're not in charge and it's not the same players, It is. The world is concentrating way too fast. Two companies, Alphabet and iOS control all handheld operating systems. How on earth did that happen? 95 % of messaging in India is the same one that's dominating messaging in Nigeria and dominates social media in the United States. What's it called? It's called meta.
8:01Meta of meta analysis that was right there. Anyways, it's way too concentrated. We absolutely need to break this up. And you're seeing the same thing in the luxury market. As the bigger players have come in and taken back distribution, or you have the really big players at the near luxury, there just isn't room for these startups. And now that they don't have access to cheap capital, Farfetch probably never made sense. Did Net-A-Porter ever make any money? I don't know. I don't know if Gilted, I don't know if these companies ever became profitable. And this goes to a bigger issue as an entrepreneur and how I've gotten rich.
8:37I've always sold too early. Now, what do I mean by that? I sold my first company profit for, I think, a valuation of$28 or$33 million in 2002, 10 years after I'd started it to Dentsu, a Japanese ad agency. It was doing well. It was going to do better. It has done better. But the amount of risk, the amount of capital they've had to take on, the fact that it's sort of a management-run company, not a shareholder-run company where they keep giving themselves more shares and paying themselves more money. Effectively, I'm pretty sure that what I sold my shares for 22 years ago is more than those shares are worth now.
9:15And I wish I'd sold earlier a red envelope. Instead, I got emotionally involved in a battle with venture capitalists, and I held on too long, and it went to zero. What I always tell entrepreneurs is always sell some along the way. I sold L2 in 2017 for I think 158 million. Was it doing really well? Yeah. Would I have made more money if I'd held on for another couple of years given the boom? Probably. But when you're younger, you need to bank a certain amount of money, have a base, and it's worth losing some potential upside. Distinct of all the stories you hear about Mark Zuckerberg not accepting$10 billion, get to bust a move to financial security or some semblance of financial security absolutely as fast as you can.
9:59I know one of the founders of Net-A-Porter, and they were smart. They sold early. They recognized, sure, could it have gone public? Could it have been a multibillion-dollar company? but I think they sold it for 350 million bucks, which is real cabbage. Is that company worth that now? I don't think so. So I'm that guy, I'm that board member telling people to sell a bit early. But back to your question, luxury e-commerce is going the way of all e-commerce. It's gonna be manufacturers' brands, the brands itself. And the thing about luxury is these brands are built over generations or the bigger, the really, really huge players that usually are named after a river.
10:34Anyways, thanks for the question. Question number two. Hey, Prof G. Got a quick question on your thoughts on the rise of the remote husband. I'm not sure if you've seen the articles lately. There seems to be an upward trend where women are going into the office or the hospital. Maybe they're a partner in a law firm and their husband is staying at home and working remotely. Do you think there'll be any long-term or short-term positive and negatives on this with men work from home? For example, speaking personally, I'm a fully remote senior software engineer. My partner goes to the office every day.
11:07I'm finding myself doing a lot of chores, a lot of cleaning. But if I'm honest, we are both a lot happier. Do you think I should stay fully remote or should I go and get back into the office, earn more money in the short term so we can have that long term gain? Let me know what you think. Huge fan of your work. Love the algebra of happiness and have been listening since the Amazon HQ2 predictions from Dublin in Ireland. Thanks for the question, Anonymous from Dublin. By the way, my son just went to Ireland and had the best time. He just loved it there. And he's not of drinking age, so I know it's not the beer, but he absolutely loved it.
11:46And I remember going to Ireland with my father and thinking it was one of the most beautiful places I'd ever been. It was one of those father-son trips. He was getting into his 70s, and his passion his whole life was golf. And so I thought I'll take him to Ireland, kind of the, you know, some of the better courses in the world. Anyways, a little walk down memory lane. So a new trend is emerging, the rise of the remote husband. Why is this happening? Men and women tend to specialize in different kinds of work. According to The Economist, men are often found in industries including computer science, engineering, while women dominate teaching and nursing jobs.
12:20And although professions including law and medicine have historically employed more men than women, that's changing. Now more women than men enrolled in law school and medical school. These industries where women are outpacing men typically require in-person work. On the other hand, industries including coding, technology, architecture, engineering, and business jobs that attract more men report high levels of remote work flexibility. A McKinsey survey revealed that 38 % of working men had the option to work remotely full-time, while only 30 % of women have this option. Also, about half of women surveyed reported that they cannot work remotely at all compared to 39 % of men.
12:55Okay, so this is somewhat situational. I don't think you said whether or not you have kids. So in some, in some, I think remote work is an unbelievable unlock for certain cohorts. There's some nuance here. I'll start with my favorite topic, me. Remote work and the comfort with remote work or a cultural shift in the acceptance of remote work has been an absolute game changer for me. best years of my life, COVID. And I feel self-conscious saying that, but it was more time with Netflix, more time with my kids and my stocks skyrocketed in value. And I used to, I built a studio, my tech guy's a genius, Drew, he built an incredible remote studios in all my homes.
13:38And he comes in via the cloud. He sets them up basically such that if I'm doing a TV hit or a talk. And back then all of these companies were trying to keep people together. So they were doing remote talks. I made great money. It was amazing for me. Again, another transfer of prosperity and well-being from poor people who had to load up their Diet Cokes and their diabetes medication and then head out into very dangerous environments, driving an Uber or waiting on people who they had to remind to put up their mask back on. But if you were an incumbent, you already had some money and you could do remote work.
14:09COVID was much less damaging on you than the rest of the population, kind of the services population. So what do I think? I think that remote work is a tremendous unlock for caregivers. And I would like to see a new classification of worker called the caregiver who is taking care of kids, taking care of aging parents, and maybe even taking care of their own mental or physical health, who does make the kind of money where they can be close to work. I think a special accommodation and investment should be made so to those people can work remotely. Now, here's the nuance here. It's a fucking disaster for young people.
14:41Why? especially men, they need the socialization. What happens when you pull kids out of school? They come off the tracks. They need the socialization. What happens when you sequester a dog? What do they tell you when you have a dog? You take it to the dog park to socialize it. Well, guess what? Young men and young women aren't puppies, but they're adolescents and they need socialization. When I went into Morgan Stanley at the age of 22, I absolutely needed to do that. I needed to learn how to get up at a certain time every morning. I'd had some of that because I was an athlete, but put on a tie, look presentable.
15:14I used to get pulled out of meetings all the time, and it was a wonderful thing. And my boss would say, don't say that, or don't be a fucking idiot. Or occasionally might say, do more of this. You need the socialization. You need to learn how to read a room. You're also going to make fantastic friends. You might even find a mentor. And you're 38 % more likely to be promoted when you're in the office. Why is that? The decider always has three candidates for a promotion. And he or she will make that decision based on who they have the best relationship with. And relationships are a function of proximity.
15:45So the person they've had coffee with, the person they see physically working really hard, the person they see that's a good culture carrier, the person they see who dresses well and works out, which reflects discipline. And if you think I'm fat shaming, well, OK, fuck me. So that's the bottom line. It reflects discipline to be in good shape. It reflects a certain level of attention to detail to look presentable every day. It reflects a certain amount of discipline to get in the goddamn office. So it's a conversation with your spouse, right? What are the tradeoffs here? Because there is a tradeoff.
16:16You will lose some professional trajectory. You will lose some opportunity to develop relationships that will pay off later in life by being remote. Having said that, I get that it's a creative, especially with kids, especially if you're a caregiver, especially if you're managing issues around your own health. But be clear, my brother, you can have it all. You just can't have it all at once. Thanks for the question. We have one quick break before our final question. Stay with us.
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18:44Welcome back. Question number three. Hi, Scott. Thank you for being generous with your time and insights. My name is Arun, and I'm calling from Singapore, a place I'd love to hear your thoughts on. You juggle multiple demanding roles, a father, professor, author, public speaker, and many more. In each role, you masterfully blend effective storytelling with rigorous data analysis, making your points both relatable and memorable. It's clear you've invested much time in refining your approach. And while you've been very open about the algebra for wealth and how to go about it, I'm curious, how do you manage your energy and time to perform so well across these capacities?
19:23All the best for your new book. Arun, thanks so much. People under the impression I'm much more productive and I work a lot harder than I do. So I'll come back to that. But first, Singapore. I think Singapore is just an incredible inspiration, just a model. Anyways, so I do juggle a lot. But the reality is people constantly come up to me and say, how do you produce all this content? And I love your sketches. And I love your content. And you must work around the clock. And then I know greatness is in the agency. of others. What I am good at is finding and retaining really talented people. And the way you do that is that loyalty is a function of appreciation.
20:06And you try and be thoughtful about what they want from their career. You try and coach them. Sometimes that's giving them, I don't want to call it tough love, but most of the time, especially the young people, it's watering them, putting them on a path for economic security, trying to show that you have a vested interest in their success and that your success is directly connected to their success and vice versa. But if you can do these things and build a team, you can just get incredible leverage. So I think we do five podcasts a week. We're doing a book about every 18 months. We'll do, I think,$3 million in speaking fees this year with presentations that are very rigorous and deep.
20:43We have a really strong production team. We have tech people, video people, editors. So the key is finding leverage on your time. Now, that's not possible for all people. What you want is, obviously, you have to go. You have to be in the part of your career when you're a younger person is you're providing leverage to someone else or to another entity. Or you're using a platform for greater leverage called JP Morgan or Google. But once you get to a point where if you're going to be an entrepreneur where you have a little bit of capital, what you really want to be focused on, and I think this is true even if you're not an entrepreneur, is trying to zero in on what can I do really well and then trying to outsource almost everything else.
21:25And the very basic is at some point, you probably decide, okay, it's not worth it for me to spend four hours cleaning my apartment on a Sunday. I'm gonna get someone to clean my apartment and I'm gonna focus on self-care or working out or maybe a little bit of additional work, whatever it might be. And then at your job, once you get to a point of, I don't know, emotional or financial security, I have eliminated the should bucket. What do I mean by that? Life is three buckets. It's things you have to do If general catalysts who backed my Company section if they want to talk about if they want me to come talk to their Entrepreneurs the ceos of their companies of portfolio companies.
22:01I have to do that. They're good to me They've invest a lot of money in me. I have to do that There's things I want to do. I want to walk around soho I want to go to equinox later and work out And then there's things you should do and you spend most of your life doing should right I should go to my friend's daughter's wedding. I should go to this networking event. I should write an article for this to try and make a small investment. Well, I've gotten to a point now where I've eliminated the should bucket. I just think to myself, okay, is this something I need to do or I have to do or something I want to do?
22:33And then I eliminate everything else. I have someone else dress me or at least pick out my clothes. I have someone else plan my diet. I have someone else managing my calendar, setting up everything. I haven't planned travel in years. That's a position of luxury. But to a certain extent, as soon as possible, you want to be begin taking as much off your plate as possible. Once you identify something you are really good at and then double down on that one thing. And then when you get really good, you'll start making more money. And then what are you going to do? You're going to reinvest in people who provide leverage to you.
23:08People think it's me producing this content. Prof G Media is 14 people. It's 14 people and we get leverage on that. Books, speaking, podcasts. Greatness is in the agency of others.
23:24That's all for this episode. If you'd like to submit a question, please email a voice recording to officehours at prof2media.com. Again, that's officehours at prof2media.com.
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23:43This episode was produced by Caroline Chagrin. Jennifer Sanchez is our associate producer, and Drew Burrows is our technical director. Thank you for listening to the Prop G Pod from the Vox Media Podcast Network. We will catch you on Saturday for No Mercy, No Malice, as read by George Hahn. And please follow our Prop G Markets pod wherever you get your pods for new episodes every Monday and Thursday.
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