What Comes After the Iran War? — with Rep. Jim Himes

22:57And so there's really nothing we can do to stop them from controlling it. Now, the way I think this will play out is, and I'll give you the sort of medium term and the long term. In the medium term, the president's going to make some kind of deal and it's going to be ugly, right? The Iranians are going to reserve the right to provide services and insurance to ships transiting the Strait of Hormuz. Well, the magic is going to be in the fees and services and insurance that the Iranians reserve the right to provide. So it's going to be a really crappy deal. And then secondarily, while that is in place or not, you know, we'll be working like mad with the Gulf states and Saudi Arabia to basically make the Strait of Hormuz irrelevant to the flow of energy in particular.

23:40So we'll build more pipelines across the Arabian Peninsula. We'll figure out other stuff. And the reason I highlight that, this is really important. The reason I highlight that is that the Iranians, again, they're very savvy, very, very savvy. And they know that they know that having played this card, it runs out bad metaphor, but having played this card, it's no longer valuable five years from now when we've built pipelines across. So guess what I think they're doing to maintain the leverage they've acquired. I think that over the next five years, they're going to work like mad to develop a nuclear weapon because they look at Pakistan, they look at India, they look at North Korea, and they say, you know what doesn't happen to those three countries?

24:21They don't get invaded. They don't get bombed. And so one of the byproducts of this war, I think, is going to be taking an awful regime that was ambivalent about having a nuclear weapon and creating a regime more ideological, more extreme, who now says, guess what? Now we have to build a nuclear weapon, because eventually the Strait of Hormuz is not going to be a point of leverage.

24:41Scott Galloway:And how does Israel respond as they get intelligence? My understanding is when we ripped up the air, when President Trump ripped up the JCPOA, the IRGC had nuclear material that was enriched to 3.7 percent. My understanding now is that intelligence says it's around 60. If it gets to 80 or 90 and they get within, you know, spitting distance of a nuclear weapon, do you think Israel most likely preemptively strikes? I mean, aren't we just setting ourselves up for what could be a pretty ugly confrontation here? Yeah, yeah. You know, except for that period of time when the JCPOA, the Obama-Iran deal, was in place.

25:24You know, the Iranians have always had 60 percent. They always had little bits of 90 percent. There's no peacetime use for 90 percent. And that's probably where they are right now. Now, it just so happens that all this stuff is at the bottom of a lot of rubble in three or four locations in Iran. It's still there. Um, but yeah, I mean, the answer to your question is a hundred percent clear, you know, the Israelis, uh, you know, the Israelis, and this isn't even a Netanyahu thing. They will do everything, literally everything in their, um, in their arsenal to keep, uh, Iran from getting there. The question is, can they, you know, if this 300 billion reconstruction fund gets set up, how many of those 300 billions get used to get used to build a, you know, hardened, a hardened facility, even more hardened than the old ones that the Israelis can't get to.

26:18So, yeah, at one level, of course, Israel is always going to regard a nuclear Iran as as unacceptable. But it's an open question about whether they'll be able to. I mean, look, if this rift between J.D. Vance and President Trump and, you know, and the growing alienation of the American political apparatus from providing weapons to Israel, if that were to go further south, that could be a real military problem for Israel.

26:49Scott Galloway:We'll be right back after a quick break.

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30:24Scott Galloway:let's move on to sunnier sky so to speak let's talk a little bit about ukraine and the sense or the thesis i would put to you is that this has been an incredibly pivotal or positive few months that ukraine has gone from playing defense to playing offense which is a victory for the west specifically europe and ukraine itself what's your assessment of the situation there yeah i was just there three or four weeks ago um and i'd been three times i I would completely agree with your assessment. I was in Kiev and Odessa, and I'll tell you, it's a weird schizophrenic feeling there now because on the one hand, missiles are flying in and hitting schools and, you know, creating five, six, seven fatalities a day or whatever, really tragic stuff.

31:07On the other hand, there's such a spring in the step of most Ukrainians because they now understand that they're winning this thing. You know, they're taking the fight to Moscow. They're imposing shocking, I mean, the brain doesn't process the number of Russians that the Ukrainians are killing every day. I mean, between now, you know, between now and the weekend, the Russians are going to lose the same number of men that we lost in Vietnam in 13 years of war there. And so the Ukrainians really feel like they're winning. Now, they're realistic, right? Winning doesn't mean that, you know, all of a sudden the Russians are pulling back to the pre-war borders, but they do know two things.

31:47Number one, that anything that gets negotiated is going to be a radically better negotiation for them than it would have been a year ago. And number two, I think they think that there's some chance that the Russian people are going to do what they do every 50 years or so and decide we've got to get rid of the czar. And again, I wouldn't tell you that anybody thinks that's a high probability thing, but it's certainly a heck of a lot higher now than it was a year ago.

32:14Scott Galloway:Do you think we're close to some sort of negotiated settlement or peace?

32:43years from now may very well try this in Estonia with all of the implications that has for us as a NATO partner. And so, you know, quite apart from my own belief, I think the Ukrainians feel the same way, which is we're on the march. You know, let's position ourselves even better for an ultimate negotiation.

33:07Scott Galloway:How insecure do you think Putin's position is amongst Russians right now? You know, I'm not a Russia guy and I listen to people, you know, and there's the school of thought that says the Russians are the people that fought the bottle of Stalingrad, right? You can never break them, you know, and then there's a school of thought that says, you know, the oligarchs that support this guy, you know, are getting pretty tired of not being able to go to their houses in London and seeing their bank accounts emptied and their yachts confiscated and their, you know, kids denied admission to Stanford and Oxford.

33:47So the honest answer to your question is, I don't know. What I do know is that the situation for the average Muscovite or, you know, So a middle class person in St. Petersburg is a hell of a lot worse than it was two years ago.

34:05Scott Galloway:You're the ranking member on the House Intelligence Committee. And most recently, the president appointed Bill Pulte as acting director of national intelligence, replacing Tulsi Gabbard, who announced her resignation at the end of May. And Bill Pulte currently heads a federal housing finance agency, no national security background. He's led many of Trump's legal crusades against opponents, including Lisa Cook and Jerome Powell, pushing for mortgage fraud charges. You've said it's, open quote, probably the worst appointment into the Intelligence Committee you've ever seen. Can you share more about your reaction and the intelligence community's reaction to this news?

34:43Yeah, I mean, you walked through the resume challenges there. you know, you could have just pulled somebody off the street in Cleveland, Ohio, with zero national security experience, and you'd have Bill Pulte. The problem is, you know, what did Bill Pulte spend his time doing at this obscure federal housing agency that almost no one's heard of, the FHFA? What did he do? He dove into records to find, you know, to examine Adam Schiff's mortgage history, Letitia James, the Attorney General of New York's mortgage history, to look at Lisa Cook, you know, governor of the Federal Reserve's mortgage history.

35:22And then he tried to get court cases built up against him. So we know who this guy is, right? And he's a hell of a lot worse than that guy off the streets of Cleveland, Ohio, because he's dedicated to being a servile, you know, eunuch to Donald Trump. And, you know, I mean, even when he gets elevated to a national security position, does he change his stripes? You know, does the sort of seriousness of his office change him? No. Like, look at his Twitter feed right now. You know, every 14 hours, he's posting a loving Pyongyang-like portrait of the dear leader. And there's a couple problems with that.

35:58One, you got a lot more tools in the, you know, in the intelligence community to go after Americans. None of them are legal or acceptable because they're all designed to be used against our enemies abroad. But, you know, the intelligence community has surveillance authorities. It's got skills. It's got, you know, in the extreme, guys who know how to repel out of helicopters dressed in black with guns. So it's just a much more serious thing. And I worry about that. And then secondarily, you know, it's not a much discussed thing. But the intelligence community is comprised of tens of thousands of extraordinarily capable patriotic people who could be making far more money in the private sector because they're mathematicians or linguists or you name it.

36:41Wonderful analysts. And, you know, when they have to deal with sort of nonsense, it's just that many more of them head for the doors. And, you know, there's serious threats out there. And I don't want those folks heading for the doors.

36:55Scott Galloway:It feels as if VALT has taken precedence over competence. Is this just at a senior level in the intelligence community, or has it been hollowed out? How worried are you about the general corpus and competence of the intelligence community? Yeah, it really varies by agency. And by the way, it's not uniform. I've been a little tough on Pulte. But, you know, the director of CIA, John Radcliffe, I know him very well. And we used to serve together. and I wouldn't put him in the same category. Anybody who works for Trump needs to do lots of annoying North Korea genuflection. But I think differently about John than I do about Bill Pulte.

37:35I would say the same, by the way, for the president's original nomination of Jay Clayton. I happen to know Jay very, very well. And if I were president of the United States, would I appoint him DNI? No, I wouldn't. But in the Star Wars cantina of cabinet secretaries and purported leaders, you know, Jay would be very much on the good side. So it's a, it's a little bit of a mixed bag, but I think the most important thing I can tell you, Scott, is that, um, these political types don't penetrate too far into the agencies, right? So, you know, just down the road here at the defense intelligence agency or up the road at the national security agency, you know, 99 % of the people are, are, are, are real professionals who are steeped in a culture of objectivity, who are studiously nonpolitical, and they're human, so they will from time to time respond to the incentives that come from the very top.

38:28But by and large, I think they're doing a good job. I have no doubt that if Bill Pulte ordered the CIA to hover a bunch of helicopters over Adam Schiff's house, that you would see mass resignations at the CIA rather than compliance to that. So, you know, there are some safeguards in the system.

38:44Scott Galloway:I want to speak more broadly. You chair the New Democrat coalition, the centrist caucus, and that lane feels increasingly uncomfortable, even untenable in today's party. Where do you think the center actually lives right now? Yeah, I always object a little bit to the notion of the center. You know, it's not a mathematical thing. You know, the way I think about it, I've been around this place for a while. The way I think about it is that there are people who are more inclined to do what the software of the Constitution and Washington demands, which is to make the compromises to actually get legislation passed.

39:24And look, it sucks. But if you don't have 60 votes in the Senate and you have a filibuster, you're going nowhere. And it sucks that you have to pull together big coalitions to actually move something in the House. But the software of the system demands that. And there's some people who are really comfortable with that. And then there's some people, and I'm making no value judgment here because I think both instincts are important. There's some people who are kind of more activist in orientation and say, no, here's the North Star and there's where we need to go. You know, so it's It's more, which camp do you fall into rather than, you know, centrists are trying to measure the extremes and get halfway between.

39:58But let me put forward just a couple of principles quickly, Scott, that I think are really important that are maybe being lost here. First, this country of 350 million people has two political parties, two. That means both of those parties are going to have internal dynamics that are really, really hard. So the fact that I, representing Fairfield County, Connecticut, don't have quite the same orientation, you know, that Zoran Mondani does, it should not be a surprise and should not be a problem. And I've argued this on the right side of the party before. I've lost enough elections and seen Donald Trump reelected enough times.

40:37I haven't personally lost elections, but I've seen the House lost. I've seen the Senate lost and the presidency lost to know that you better lean hard into including diverse viewpoints. Right. So I've usually thought about it like, gosh, in the Democratic Party, could we tolerate somebody who's pro-life? There are people who say no. I would say, you know what, if you share 70 percent of the values, but you disagree on some, you know what you need to govern this country? a majority. So here's my take on the folks that just won primaries in New York. First, it's New York. You and I know New York, right?

41:16It ain't America in any way, shape or form. Number two, those candidates, including the mayor, tapped into something really important, which is that people are pissed off, and rightly so, our lifetime, financial crisis, Iraq war, catastrophic mistakes done by the establishment. And they are pissed off. You better grapple with that rather than what we all did in the Biden administration, which is to say inflation is transitory. My God, right? And so number one, it's New York. Number two, they've tapped into something important, not just on substance. And by the way, I'm not validating the substance.

41:51I happen to believe that rent control is not a good idea. And every fact out there suggests that that is true. I think if you want to lower the price of housing, build a hell of a lot more housing. So I'm not validating the, the, the policy positions. Um, but again, back to what I said before, I appreciate that these folks that are far to my left are saying, shut up about everything, except how are we going to make healthcare and housing less expensive? Now I may disagree with their prescriptions, but I think it's great that they're doing that. My one request to them back to what I was saying about the majority is you're joining a team.

42:29And I'm not on the Gottheimer team that says that if you call yourself a socialist, you don't get to be on our team. The critical aspect of being on our team is acknowledging that you go nowhere without a majority. If you don't have a majority, you're just talking. That's all you're doing. You're getting paid$174 ,000 a year to talk. So you want a majority. And if you want to win a majority, say and do things that don't damage our ability to win seats in North Carolina, Ohio, Michigan, Georgia. Because if you put out crazy stuff that alienates those people and in this era of social media, when you say something a little crazy in a basement in Brooklyn, it is about three milliseconds before it gets broadcast in Arizona and Michigan.

43:15comport yourself in a way that is consistent with winning a majority. That's my one. That's my one. Oh, and by the way, don't be anti-Semitic. I'm cartooning things here.

43:27Scott Galloway:Right now, it feels as if the Democratic platform is, can you believe he said that? And I would say that we need to move from indignance to ideas. As the Democrats think about their messaging around 26 and 28. What does Representative Himes believe is the right message that moves just beyond the anti-Trump message? I have one obvious thought and one non-obvious thought for you. The obvious thought is that we need to be ruthlessly focused on the cost of healthcare, the cost of food, the cost of energy, and resist the temptation to chase the squirrel. And that sounds like a no-brainer, but we're terrible at it.

44:15We're terrible at it. You know, we're going to, some crazy immigration thing is going to happen in Houston and we're going to take three days to stop talking about affordability and talk about that crazy immigration thing in Houston. And then the next week, you know, something is, some vile thing is going to happen to a transgender individual in the United States Marines or whatever it is. And we're going to chase that for a week. And we're going to get to the end of the month and we're going to realize we didn't actually talk about affordability. Now, now let me be very clear here. I'm not saying that immigration policy, cultural issues don't matter.

44:48On the contrary, you know, I'm enormously proud of my party that we fight for decency and immigration and equality for the transgender population. But how you sequence these things again, back to winning the majority. If you're not convincing people that each this is what Momdani did, right? If you're not convincing people that you are all over the thing they care about most, which is expenses, the expensiveness of life, they're not listening to you on the other stuff. So we got to get that right. Second thing, this is the non-obvious piece. We got to actually do it. You know, I've been thinking a lot about why there are always these swings, right?

45:2206 and 08, big swing to the Democrats under Obama. 2010, there's, you know, we get obliterated. 2018. I think the way we stop that pendulum and actually gain traction as a party is not because we have a perfect housing policy, but because we actually do something. I mean, I can't tell you how frustrated I am thinking back over the four years of the Biden administration. When I campaigned in 2024 on we passed the biggest infrastructure bill since the Eisenhower presidency and we passed the biggest investment climate change, you know, ever. And you know what we actually did in the state of Connecticut?

45:54Nothing. Nada. Zilch. and voters know that, right? They listen to some blowhard like me say, oh, we passed this incredible bill. And they're like, wait, wait, I'm looking around here. The shitty little bridge on the post road is still not built. And so anyway, the non-obvious thing I have to say is that actually doing it is going to be as powerful as getting it right. So, and I got nothing good to say about Donald Trump, but I do admire this administration's bias to action. Now, half the time it's illegal, but I'll tell you what, the Democrats better get a big infusion of no, no, no, no. When we allow for Medicare to negotiate drug prices, it happens tomorrow morning, not five years from now, because, you know, Americans are just so sick of the rhetoric and the blowhards in office and not seeing anything change.

46:49Scott Galloway:We'll be right back.

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48:13Scott Galloway:We're back with more from Representative Jim Himes. We were talking off mic a little bit about our backgrounds. Can you provide us with your backstory? story? Yeah. As I mentioned to you, it weirded me out a little bit because it's a lot like your own. Single mom from age 10 onward. My parents split up. Little town in New Jersey. Worked in the hardware store, the pizza place, the drugstore, delivered papers, etc., etc. And then went off to college. And I don't want to paint too much of an Oliver Twist story here. my parents had good college educations, ultimately wound up after grad school, like you, in investment banking.

48:53Like you, didn't love it, but I learned a hell of a lot. I got pulled in because the first 10 years of my life were in South America, and I was fluent in Spanish. And so the bank said, doesn't matter that this guy doesn't know a thing about banking, he speaks Spanish. And so they hired me on that basis. And now I'm doing what I sort of suspected I would always be reasonably good at doing, which is public policy. And it's crazy polarized times, but I'm very lucky to represent a thoughtful, pragmatic constituency.

49:25Scott Galloway:So you're at Goldman for 12 years. I imagine you're a VP or maybe an MD. I don't know where you were at that point. And you're making really good money. I know you didn't grow up with a lot of money, or at least that's my sense. And what's the decision to leave a job and take a pretty substantial pay cut and go to work in public service? What led you to public service? You know, the answer is I never really thought about it that way. In fact, I think I stuck around the bank too long. You know, like you, it didn't move me. It didn't sort of satisfy my soul in any meaningful way. It was great. I learned a lot, made a little money and got skills that I use to this day, but it didn't move me in any way the way policy always had.

50:08And both my parents were service-oriented. My dad was at the Ford Foundation with UNICEF. My mom did a lot of education stuff. So that was always kind of my inclination. And this comes through a little bit in your book too. The question is more, if you do go into a bank, you had the wherewithal to say the hell with it after two years. I sometimes counsel young people, go to the private sector, go investment banker, or be a consultant, but have an exit strategy because you can get pretty used to the lifestyle. And you can get 10 years in as I did and say, wow, I'm a little off track of what I thought I would be doing.

50:47And as you know, those organizations make it pretty hard to leave. I was a little lucky in that I was doing technology banking when the technology market went completely belly up. So I sort of looked around and went, wow, not much going on here. But yeah, so then I was able, you know, and the one thing I give, you know, a lifetime spent following directions and decisions. The one thing I do give myself credit for was in 2007, I'd gotten pissed off about George W. Bush and Republicans at the time. Little did I know what was coming. But in 2007, after helping a woman who ran for this seat twice, and she lost twice, I said, what the hell?

51:29I'm going to run. I'm going to lose. I know I'm going to get my clock cleaned, but I'm at least going to be proud of myself for having tried. And I would have lost, but out of nowhere comes Barack Obama. And man, I grabbed those coattails in 08 and hung on for dear life.

51:45Scott Galloway:And having served in public service for now, what, 17 years? Is that right? Yeah, coming on 18, yeah. Coming on 18. Compare and contrast working in the private sector versus the public sector, and what surprised you most to the upside and the downside around serving in Congress? Yeah, you know, I get irritated with the, you know, the mantra that, oh, government just needs to be more like business, right? It's a fundamentally different thing, right? Every business has as its objective to make money at the end of the day. They have lots of different ways of making money, but it's just a very clear objective.

52:21And good leaders and CEOs, you know, get rewarded for making lots of money. Government is a fundamentally different thing. We don't have a bottom line. Government is the division of power and resources amongst a massively fractured population of 350 million people. It's an exercise in compromise. It's how you bring the evangelicals in Idaho together with the Amherst graduates in Westport to have some sort of coherent national policy. There's no bottom line and there shouldn't be. Now, by the way, government should be efficient, no question about it. And it makes me nuts that it's not. But it's a fundamentally different exercise.

53:00So I really reject that. My own view, Scott, is that a life well lived and maybe in the service of our country should include a little of each. And obviously, I'm talking my own book here. Maybe it's just me rationalizing and being self-satisfied. But I do walk around the hallways here and see folks who have spent time in the military or in law or in the private sector. And it tends to be those members who really bring the kind of perspective to legislating that I think is hugely valuable.

53:35Scott Galloway:You're a father of two girls and married. Any thoughts? A lot of young men listen to this, listen to this pod. Any thoughts or learnings on what you've gotten right and what you've gotten wrong in terms of being a dad and a good partner? A couple of thoughts. Number one, I got way too old before I learned the power of saying, I don't know. I mean, it's funny. Now that I'm a guy of some power, I guess, coming on 60 years old, I feel very comfortable saying, I don't know. But when I was in my 20s and 30s, I was uncomfortable saying that because I thought that it would indicate that I was dumb and that people would be like, oh, he's the idiot in the room.

54:13And as a consequence, I learned a lot more slowly than I might have. This bleeds into something that I think is denigrated by MAGA conceptions of manhood, listening. Listening is a more general characterization of what I just said about asking for help. I think good leaders listen more than they transmit. I was in a couple of, I've been in the company, both in the private and the public sector of people and, you know, powerful people in rooms, board rooms, you know, cabinet rooms. And usually the individual with real influence, the real leader is the one who doesn't speak first, who reserves his or her counsel.

55:04And then, you know, 20 minutes in the meeting says something and everybody just sort of turns around and says, wow. And so, you know, I think that's an attribute to be admired and, you know, strived after. A couple other things. I just jotted down the notes. Maybe it's elsewhere in your book. I think one of the most transformative things that a boy or man can do, and I don't mean this to be exclusive. It's probably true of women as well, but is to develop competence in something. You know, the discipline and the artistry and the commitment and all the things you need to do to become a great piano player or rower or beekeeper or speaker of the Farsi language.

55:51I think the process itself, you know, helps you become a, I'll say a man in full since we're talking about men, but I would not in any way exclude females. It helps you become a person in full by pursuing something, really chasing competence. I think that can be transformative.

56:09Scott Galloway:Jim Himes is the U.S. representative for Connecticut's fourth congressional district, a seat he's held since 2009. He's also the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, serving as its ranking member. He joins us from our nation's capital. Representative Himes, very much appreciate your time today and your good service. Thank you, Scott. Pleasure being with you.

56:48Scott Galloway:Algebra of Happiness My son's high school graduation was on Friday And it's been the fastest four years a lot of mixed emotions and not all of them positive. Some of that is my depression and anger kicking in. When my son and his mom decided it would be a good idea for him to go to boarding school, I now look back and I kind of resent the decision and I feel like my son was taken for me early. I did not like having him at boarding school. He was told to me that he'd be home Friday and leave Sunday night. He comes home Saturday afternoon. He's gone Sunday afternoon. He's basically at home for just a day.

57:29And I missed him terribly during those years.

57:34Scott Galloway:And the first thing I remember when he got into these two boarding schools, I took him for a walk and I told him which boarding school I thought would be better. And he agreed or, you know, I thought it's either here or there. But driving up to this school, and this is a story of privilege, because he went to an amazing school and most people don't have that opportunity. But the first thing I remember thinking is, I wish my mom were alive because she just, it's a boarding school outside of London. She just wouldn't believe that her grandson got to experience something like that. And his first year was tough for him.

58:09Scott Galloway:I didn't realize how tough until later, but he didn't do well academically. I think he felt a little bit ostracized as one of the few Americans at his school. I thought that'd be a feature, it wasn't. I don't know. He did fine, but not great. And one of the reasons he ended up getting into a great school was his momentum kept building. Anyways, the thing that just struck me and that has made me sad, I was fine Friday night at his graduation celebration, but I got very upset Saturday morning or melancholy, is that there were all these things we were going to do, right? We were going to, or I planned.

58:44Scott Galloway:I wanted to buy an old car and try and renovate it with him. I think it would have been a ton of fun. I'm not handy, but, you know, I wanted to, you know, I wanted to go to Alaska with him. I had never been to Alaska and I thought you and I are going to go to Alaska together. There was all these things I was planning to do with him and now he's gone. And when he was a young kid and it was the right decision, I focused on work and economic security. So I was there, but I wasn't, I was gone a lot. I would sometimes be on the road for two or three weeks. If I had speaking gigs or work in Europe, it just made sense to stay over there.

59:20Scott Galloway:And I would come home and notice that my sons had physically grown. So I missed a lot, kind of zero to eight. And then eight to 12 was great. And then he kind of left when he was 14. And I just feel like there's this part, this real sadness, like there was so much we were going to do that we didn't. And now he's gone. And it's kind of heartbreaking. and I'm very proud of him. He's done really well. He's going to a great university in the fall. But this, you know, you lose your kids. It's like, I think the reason we're so in love with our kids is the same reason why luxury brands are successful.

1:00:00Scott Galloway:It comes down to scarcity. The 10-year-old you have at home is not going to be there in a year. They're just going to be different. And you still love them and you still have a similar relationship, but they're an entirely different person. And I had so many plans. for us. And a lot happened. We went to a lot of Premier League games. We traveled a lot together. We took trips on our own. I took them on a college tour. I think I've been more present than most fathers, mostly because I have the resources. But I just am haunted by this notion that there was so much we were supposed to do that we didn't.

1:00:38Scott Galloway:And it just goes, zero to two went slowly, two to eight less slowly, eight to 12 went kind of fast, and 12 to 18 just was over in an instant. And there's no profound insight here or wondrous aha other than the following. To the extent you can, plan those things. If you want to go to, you want to show your son the Imperial War Museum, buy tickets and go. If your kid's into Pokemon and you think I should go to one of those Pokemon conferences with him and take the train to Heathrow and go to that thing because what they say is true it goes fast and there's just no getting around it. I have a pretty large

1:01:29Scott Galloway:void about the things we were supposed to do.

1:01:36Scott Galloway:This episode was produced by Jennifer Sanchez and Laura Janere. Cami Reek is our social producer. Bianca Rosario Ramirez is our video editor. And Drew Burrows is our technical director. Thank you for listening to the Prop G pod from Prop G Media.

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