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The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway - Episode Summary
Episode Title
What Mayor Mamdani Is Getting Right (and Wrong), Career Risk, and Letting Your Kids Go
Episode Description
Scott Galloway shares his insights on the new NYC mayor's early policy agenda and discusses key person risk in founder-led companies, along with a candid reflection on sending children to boarding school.
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Key Topics Discussed
- Insights on NYC Mayor Mamdani
- Early Policies:
- Partnered with Governor Hochul to launch free childcare for two-year-olds.
- Issued executive orders to improve conditions in homeless shelters and city jails, including an end to solitary confinement.
- Initiated a pilot program for modular public restrooms to improve sanitation access.
- Praise for Policies:
- Galloway appreciates the emphasis on child care and homelessness, arguing that government can sometimes provide better solutions than the private sector.
- Criticism of Housing Policy:
- Galloway critiques the mayor’s approach to housing and the need for reform:
- Advocates for "YIMBY" (Yes In My Backyard) policies to facilitate housing development.
- Critiques the local resistance (NIMBYism) that exacerbates housing crises.
- Comments on Immigration:
- Expresses a need for a balanced immigration policy that supports legal immigration while recognizing the contributions of undocumented workers.
- Overall Impression:
- While cautious about some policies, Galloway believes that Mamdani's youth and approach could provide valuable lessons for Democrats.
- Discussion on Key Person Risk
- Understanding Key Person Risk:
- Galloway defines key person risk as the reliance on a single individual (often a charismatic founder) for the success of a company.
- Advice for Employees:
- Smart employees should engage in transparent conversations with their employers about ownership and equity.
- Suggests that employees in small firms should seek equity to align interests and reduce risks associated with key person dependencies.
- Scaling Beyond Key Person Risk:
- Emphasizes the importance of developing a strong team and diversifying leadership roles to mitigate risks.
- Personal Reflections on Boarding School
- Decision to Send Kids:
- Galloway reflects on his initial reluctance to send his son to boarding school, highlighting feelings of loss and resentment.
- Pros and Cons:
- Pros:
- Development of independence and character in children.
- Access to high-quality education and peer networks.
- Cons:
- Emotional difficulty of separation for parents.
- Advice for Parents:
- Encourages parents to involve their children in the decision-making process and to assess readiness for boarding school thoughtfully.
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Key Takeaways
- Government's Role: Certain social services, such as childcare and homelessness initiatives, illustrate the potential effectiveness of government intervention.
- Housing Solutions: Transforming housing policy through YIMBYism and reducing bureaucratic hurdles can alleviate urban housing crises.
- Key Person Risk Management: Employees should seek ownership and engage in discussions about long-term company sustainability, particularly in smaller firms.
- Boarding School Decisions: The choice to send children to boarding school is deeply personal, requiring consideration of both child and family dynamics.
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Additional Information
- To submit questions for future episodes, listeners can send voice recordings to officehours@profgmedia.com or engage on the Scott Galloway subreddit.
- This episode was produced by Jennifer Sanchez, with contributions from Laura Genere, Cammie Reek, and Drew Rose.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VODiscussion on Mayor Mamdani's Policies
1:40 to 9:10
Scott analyzes Mayor Mamdani's policies and their implications for NYC.
“Or post your question on the Scott Galloway subreddit, and we just might feature it in our next episode.”
Key Person Risk in Small Firms
9:10 to 13:36
Scott discusses the impact of key person risk in small businesses.
“I recently left a very well-paid career in marketing because I was bored out of my mind and decided to join a tiny five-person consulting firm.”
Deciding on Boarding School for Kids
16:26 to 20:02
Scott discusses the pros and cons of sending kids to boarding school.
“Our final question is from Bina007 on Reddit.”
Transcript
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1:26Welcome to Office Hours with Prov G. This is the part of the show where we answer questions about business, big tech, entrepreneurship, and whatever else is on your mind. If you'd like to submit a question for next time, you can send a voice recording to officehours at ProvGmedia.com. Again, that's officehours at ProvGmedia.com. Or post your question on the Scott Galloway subreddit, and we just might feature it in our next episode. Question number one. I have not seen or heard these questions.
1:54Question number one comes from F. Sharfman on Reddit. They say, as a co-host of Raging Moderates, what do you really think of the new mayor, both in terms of changing the economics of NYC and as a potential model for Democrats to learn from both emulating and avoiding? Okay, some data on what MomDomini, the mayor, has done so far. I'm a Florida resident, so I'm speaking to this as an outsider, if you will. And what is probably as big as policy went so far, Mom Donnie partnered with Governor Hochul to launch free child care for two-year-olds. I think that's wonderful. When I was a resident of New York, something that made me feel much better about the incremental 13 % taxes we were paying while we were here was my son.
2:34My three-year-old, four-year-old son at the time was speech delayed. And story ends well. By the way, he just got into early decision to the college of his choice. So obviously he's thriving. But he wasn't speaking. Totally freaked out. Lovely young woman showed up twice a week and had him do a series of things to try and motivate him to start speaking again. And she was so skilled and so smart. And it was sponsored by the state. It didn't cost us anything. And I thought this must make people feel so good about government. There are some things the government can do much better than the private sector.
3:05And the Republicans' love of the private sector oftentimes makes a lot of economic sense. I think most things should be done by the private sector. but it goes too far. And really what they're doing is just cosplaying a love for lower taxes and small government because rich people can have their own government, their own health care, their own transportation, their own private security, their own schools. He's also issued an executive order to improve conditions in homeless shelters and city jails and moved to end solitary confinement at Rikers, enforcing a 2024 law banning it. This is a tough one, but the worst thing you can do to a human being or any mammal is to put them alone.
3:37Put your dog alone and see what happens. So I like that. Initiated a$4 million pilot program for modular public restrooms to improve access to sanitation citywide. Okay, fine. $4 million. See if it works. Launched task forces to accelerate affordable housing development and cut bureaucratic delays. I love the idea of cutting bureaucratic delays. I'll come back to that. Publicly reaffirmed New York's sanctuary city policies, which defines its stance towards federal authority and immigration enforcement. I don't quite frankly know how I feel about sanctuary cities. I think we should just have a sane immigration policy that embraces immigration but embraces legal immigration.
4:13And I think if we did a half-assed decent job of immigration, we would need sanctuary cities. And that is you're empathetic and you're thoughtful and recognize that the ultimate secret sauce is getting the best and brightest from around the world, but it needs to be legal immigration and that a lot of people wait in line for years on end and go through the right process and cost to be here legally. I do. At the same time, the Republicans and Democrats turned a blind eye to it for the last 40 years because the 20 or 30 million-odd undocumented workers—by the way, they're documented up the ass. They have phone contracts, Social Security cards, Netflix, driver's license.
4:52Why? Because we want to make sure we can document them to make money from them. But we just don't want to go through the process of admitting that we had the most flexible and profitable labor force in history called the American undocumented worker, where they would melt into the country to pick our crops and wipe grandma's ass and serve you your cob salad for a fraction of the cost that it would cost because domestic workers don't want to roof. I renovate houses all the time, and I can tell you no domestic worker wants to work outside any longer. And you think, well, it's putting pressure on wages.
5:26No, you just can't find domestic workers who will do it, quite frankly. Anyway, back to housing. I think his ideas on housing are pretty fucked up. And that is, if you want to solve the housing crisis, in Austin, rents have plummeted. Why? Because they got rid of nimbyism and they replaced it with yimbyism. And it's little tweaks. So for example, there used to be a regulation that for every apartment, you had to have a parking space. It is really expensive and difficult to build parking. You have to go subterranean, which is expensive, or you have to buy more land. They got rid of that. Effectively, what housing represents in America is this bullshit, awful, un-American rejectionism and LVMH-ing of our society, where once I have a degree from an elite university, I want to pull up the drawbridge and applaud the dean and the basic ideology of making it harder and harder to get in.
6:16When I applied to UCLA, 74 % admissions rate this year, 9%. Most alumni like that because it makes their degree more valuable. When people buy a home, all of a sudden they become very concerned with traffic and show up to local review board meetings, taking housing permits out of the hands of bureaucrats, and I say that affectionately, and putting it into the hands of homeowners is one of the worst things to happen to young Americans. And what we've seen is an acceleration in housing prices and an acceleration in the cost of college degrees. One, the best means of establishing economic security, a sense of family, and also the certification you need to continue or to thrive in a capitalist society.
6:57and we've decided to LVMH the whole fucking thing. And we've decided at universities that we're no longer public servants for Chanel bags and the same thing as infected housing in Minneapolis. So what do you do? You pass YIMBY laws and you provide tax credits to developers that make it economically feasible for them to develop. It's not a demand problem in New York that is killing people and creating a one-bedroom that costs$5 ,500 and creating only three classes of people that live in New York, either tech bros, finance bros, or parents whose kids are putting them through New York, it's the fact that there isn't enough supply.
7:31So you provide, in addition to regulation around Yimbyism, you weaponize the private development infrastructure with tax credits that encourage a massive amount of development. Rent freezes are just ridiculously head up your ass, make no sense, failed econ one. State-sponsored food lines, which is what state-sponsored grocery stores are. If there's one business we should leave to the private sector, it should be grocery. Is it a shitty low margin business? And the idea that the person from the DMV is going to oversee what produce you have to choose from makes absolutely no sense. In sum, Mamdani, there's a lot Democrats can take away from him.
8:11He was on message. He's young, ran an amazing campaign, weaponized social media, stayed on message around affordability. and I thought he kind of won the election in one moment. I was watching the debate and I think the moment that Mamdani kind of got wind in his sails that took him to victory was when he said, when they were all asked, where would you go? What would be your first place you would travel to after being mayor? And they all put on their virtue signaling and said, okay, I would go to Israel or Ukraine. And he'd said, I'd go to Brooklyn or I'd go to Harlem. I'm the mayor of the city.
8:46That was absolutely the right thing to say. I also think some people who immediately want to call him or just think the worst of him need to try and give him a chance, give him a shot, be supportive of him. So I'm trying, I'm purposely trying hard not to shitpost him. Anyways, great city. I think this city, whether he's good or bad, is going to survive him. But I think New York's in a fucking golden age right now. Anyways, thanks for the question. Question number two. Hi, Professor Galloway. This is Tom from London. I recently left a very well-paid career in marketing because I was bored out of my mind and decided to join a tiny five-person consulting firm.
9:23The work is incredible, the clients are global, and I'm more motivated than I've been in years. My one anxiety is this. The founder, my boss, is a once-in-a-generation hyper-charismatic leader. He is the product. If he got sick or decided to walk away, I'm pretty sure the business, and therefore my job would disappear overnight. I see some parallels with Prof G Media. So my question is, how do you think about legacy and key person risk from an employee's point of view? And what conversations should smart employees be having to protect their future? Finally, if we ever meet at Law of the Land, first pints on me.
10:02Thanks. Law of the Land. This is a great pub started by Guy Ritchie. Love the pub. Happy to meet you there. almost all small firms have key man risk or key woman risk. That's the nature of any small firm, specifically a services firm who controls or has relationships. I've had key man risk or key Scott risk at every firm I've started. At Profit, my brand strategy firm, I was the person that owned the relationships with our biggest clients. At Red Envelope, I raised all the money, at least initially, that L2, I was better at it. As I got older, I realized that the key to scale is pretty simple.
10:42And that is the team of the best players wins. And I talked to a lot of founders of services companies and they'll say to me, and I'm bragging now, Scott, you've been able to scale your firm and sell these things for a lot of money. And we're having trouble doing that. And I say, well, okay, show me your cap table. And they say, what do you mean? I'm like, your cap table, who owns your firm? Like, well, I own a hundred percent of it. I'm like, okay, that's the fucking problem. The best employees are the ones that act like owners. That's how you scale a company is you bring in a series of owners.
11:08You think about the company nonstop. And the only way to get people to act like owners is to make them owners. And that is by the time I sold L2, I owned 40 % and venture capitalists and employees own the other 60. At Profit, I owned 30 % and venture capitalists and my co-founder and employees own the other 70. At Prop G Media, as of last year, I didn't think this company was going to have enterprise value because of the things you're talking about. And then as of last year, the company is like, quite frankly, scaling. And my greed glands are going, I'm like, maybe there's enterprise value here.
11:40So I've started giving away equity. If you're in a small company, you're just going to have key man or key woman risk. And the key is, does that person, they don't have to be nice. You don't have to have friendship with them. But you have to believe that they have a vested interest in your success. And the easiest means of evaluating that is that are they giving you ownership that vests over four years? Are they giving you equity? Just don't talk to me if you're a service owner and you don't understand why you can't attract good people when you want to own 100 % of the firm. Yeah, no fucking shit.
12:09People aren't born just to make you awesome and rich. Anyways, I would just have a transparent conversation. I don't think there's a lot you can do. One, do you think this person is going to stick around? Do you think this person demonstrates excellence? Do you have upside relative to this person? So you're taking risks. But in a small company, you're just going to have to endure that key person risk. The question is, are you being compensated for that risk? Because typically the upside is greater. But from a founder standpoint, the way you diversify away from yourself, I think about this every day, is new products, outstanding people who kind of carry the ball.
12:45By the time I sold L2, we had several people, including people who now work at this company, at Propto Media, who were handling clients, handling revenue lines, distinct of me, without me. And one of the keys to, we got a multiple of eight times revenues when we sold L2. And one of the keys to that was I showed them my calendar and went through two-thirds of our members. We called it membership instead of consulting to get recurring revenue to get a higher multiple. but two-thirds of our quote-unquote members had not seen from or met with me in the last year. And that's how we convince them. But how do you do that?
13:22You just hire amazing people. That's the key to scaling beyond key person risk. And again, you're taking more risk than a big company, but you also should be getting compensated in the form of an equity grant. Thanks for the question. We'll be right back after a quick break.
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16:26Welcome back. Our final question is from Bina007 on Reddit. They say, how did you decide to send your kids to boarding school? What are the pros, cons? We are at that decision point. It would appreciate the advice. That's a great question. It was sort of sold to me by my son and his mom. I was not a fan of it. And quite frankly, I hold some resentment and regret around the decision because I just wasn't ready to lose my boy. And at 14, he was gone. He was sold to me that he'd be home on weekends. He's home Saturday afternoon because he plays football Saturday morning. And even when I didn't see him, I liked knowing that he was upstairs.
17:05But here's the thing. Being a good dad is it's not about you. And he's independent. And from the moment he saw these boarding schools, he just fell in love and wanted to do it. And generally speaking, almost everybody I know who went to boarding school loved it. So I think it's good for the kids. I think sometimes it's hard on the parents, although I do think some parents just outsource parenting to boarding schools. I personally, to be honest, it was hard on me. It's been great for him. I mean, the boarding school he goes to has something called the Wall of Honor, and it's got 53 names of it.
17:32And it's carved into marble all these names who died in World Wars I and II. He's basically living in a fraternity with 30 other guys, and his friends are great kids. The quality of the education is amazing. They're on their own. They've got to start managing their own shit and making their own bed or not, getting up on their own. I just think if you have an independent kid who wants to go to boarding school, you take a tour, I think that it's just such a personal decision. I don't have a checklist for who should go to boarding school and who shouldn't. And obviously, this is a question of privilege because a lot of people don't have the money to go to boarding school.
18:08It wasn't an option for me. I would have benefited hugely from the character and camaraderie of a boarding school. The pros is that they are pros developing young men and women. the good boarding schools. That's what they're in the business of, full stop. They're just very good at what they do. And they have the resources to educate these kids in a rigorous fashion and give them character and give them just the right amount of fun. And when they have to turn on their phones and when they don't, I mean, they're just very, I have found the boarding schools are very good at. The cons are really, really simple.
18:43Your kid's out of the house before you want. I mean, there's no getting around it. That's the con. And, you know, all caps, is you lose your daughter, your son sooner than you were expecting, or at least I did. I think most kids, if I look at my son's friends, are really high-character kids who've really benefited from the experience and have had a great experience. You know, I'd suggest you just talk about it thoughtfully with the kid. Is the kid up for it? Does he or she want to do it? Go spend some time at the school and just make a decision as a family. I don't want to propose an algorithm that gets you to do a yes or a no.
19:15I think this stuff is so personal. I did coach a friend of mine whose kid was at boarding school and was miserable. I'm like, okay, the first 30 days, yeah, it would kind of be weird if they were miserable or homesick. But if you're three, four, six months into this thing and the kid is miserable, then it's a do-over. You put him somewhere else or bring him back home. And this is what they did. And now the kid's thriving at a local school. I think that parents have a pretty good sense for this if you're really engaged in your kid, especially mothers. Yeah, that's sexist. I'll stick to it. I think mothers are more intuitive about how their kids are doing than dads usually.
19:45On the whole, it's been a positive experience for us. It's been in the short term a negative experience for years, truly. But my son is thriving and developing into a lovely young man. So I guess it's a, hands down, it's a net positive. Sorry, I can't be more specific here. Thanks for the question. That's all for this episode. If you'd like to submit a question, please email a voice recording to officehours at proptomedia.com. That's officehours at proptomedia.com. or if you prefer to ask on Reddit, just post your question on the Scott Gallery subreddit and we just might feature it in an upcoming episode.
20:21This episode was produced by Jennifer Sanchez. Our associate producer is Laura Genere. Cammie Reek is our social producer. Drew Rose is our technical director. Thank you for listening to the Prof G Pod from Prof G Media.
20:42Support for the show comes from Harvey AI. Law is craft, forged through repetition, sharpened by judgment, perfected in the details most people never see. Practice made perfect is Harvey's belief in relentless refinement, in turning complexity into clarity, pressure into precision, and experience into advantage. Legal work isn't just about knowing law, it's about applying it carefully, consistently, and under real stakes. Harvey is an AI platform built specifically for legal practice, helping teams analyze large volumes of documents, draft with precision and collaborate securely across complex matters.
21:14It doesn't replace expertise, it strengthens it, making teams faster, more exacting, more certain. Today, more than half of the AM Law 100 use Harvey as part of their workflow. Learn more at Harvey.ai.
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Scott Galloway shares his take on the new NYC mayor and what Democrats can learn from the early policy agenda. He also explains how employees should think about “key person risk” when working for founder-led companies, and reflects candidly on the pros and cons of sending a child to boarding school — including what he got wrong as a parent.
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