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23:15Not as tall as me, but who is? And in the supermarket once, he reached up and got something for somebody and his wife said, oh, if you ever do lose your job, you'd be a very good professional Reacher. Oh, that's hilarious. Reacher would be a good name. Oh, no, that's brilliant. It happened to me where there was a woman in Waitrose and she said to me, also, could you reach the sugar from the top shelf for me? And I said, of course, I got it for her. And she said, can I get anything for you while I'm down here? Oh, my God. That is the most perfect Waitrose interaction ever. Yeah, isn't it, Jess?

23:50That's just, yeah. So he wrote all of these novels, all of which are extraordinary. They had lots of adaptations that didn't quite work until a man called Nick Santoro came along. Nick Santoro is the guy behind the Amazon Prime version of Reacher. We're now on season three. I was having a big discussion with some very, very funny actors and writers who weren't enjoying it, and I love it. And then lots of other actors and writers joined in and said they loved it as well. So it is what it is. Some people will say, and that the criticism of Reacher is that, by the way, he doesn't say much, which I sort of love as a sort of leading character, but, you know, it's towns that can't deal with their own problems and he comes in and he fixes it.

24:34Yeah, yes. But I mean, lots of things have been formulaic forever. But yes, and sometimes people say that that's simplistic. Yeah. And listen, Columbo was formulaic, but it was still the best TV show ever made. No, I love Reacher. And it's genuinely funny. There's some very, you know, listen, there's a lot of, you have to look away sometimes during the fights, but, you know, the funny bits are properly funny. But Nick Santoro is an interesting guy. I used to be a lawyer, didn't want to be a lawyer like most lawyers. I know some lawyers do. And then he wrote an episode of The Sopranos, a spec script for The Sopranos, got called in.

25:12His first ever published thing on television was an episode of The Sopranos, the greatest television show ever made. In season four, he co-wrote an episode of that and then went on to do lots of episodes of Law and Order, which is a big breeding ground for American writers. so he'd done something unbelievably blue chip in the Sopranos and then he does this sort of telly that absolutely packs them in yeah as you often say the sort of tv people actually want to watch so after that his agent is going well look you can do another season of Law and Order he said I'd like to do something new I want I'd like to I'd like to branch out uh and so what should I do so his agent gave him every single pilot from that season uh in in America and the one he liked most was Prison Break.

25:55He said, I saw that and I thought that's the one that could run. And then he came up with his own show called Scorpion, which I've not seen, but I'm going to tell you, pray see it for you and I would love to watch this. Four super geniuses and a woman who has to sort of stand in the middle of them and teach them emotional intelligence. It's like he described it as being like Big Bang Theory meets CSI. So you think, well, that sounds amazing, doesn't it? So he's always done that thing of what's the big mainstream thing but how can we make it slightly funnier, which is why Reacher is such a huge deal.

26:26But the most interesting thing Nick Santoro did in the middle of all of this, and by the way, this is just to say that there are a million different ways to get into the world of having a big hit television show, and everyone's way through is very, very different, particularly in the case of Nick Santoro, because the next thing he did was he invented the reality dating show Beauty and the Geek, yeah which is beautiful woman yeah and geeky guy it's all about there in the title team up and do challenges ran for five seasons in uh in in america they did they've done it a couple of times over here david mitchell used to be the um used to be the vo so if you want to know the connection between jack reacher and david mitchell uh there it is in one step interestingly they bought it back do you want to know how social marys have changed in the uk yeah over the last 16 years.

27:17So in 2006, so they get usually a beautiful woman and a geeky guy, and then they describe them as something or other. So in 2006, one of the teams, in fact the winning team, was Terry Marquez, page three girl, with John Gethin, theologian. 2022, you think, well, times have changed, surely. And here's your team, Saskia Mastin, cheerleader, JB James, Lego creator. Some things never change. That's lovely. Yeah, isn't it just. He also, he also, wrote a film called Long Shots, which was directed by Fred Durst, the lead singer of Limp Bizkit. Yeah. So he's had a hell of a career, Nick Santora. My goodness, that is eclectic.

27:57Isn't it eclectic? That's the thing is, there's a million different ways into the business. If you look at Craig Mazin, who did Chernobyl, I mean, his previous credits have been Scary Movie 3, Scary Movie 4, Hangover 2. I remember when Chernobyl came out and people sort of went back through thinking, oh my God, I need to watch everything this guy's ever done. and I was like, okay, maybe I don't need to watch Scoring Me. But he's so amazing and it's just a question of, and obviously now he's co-creator of The Last of Us, but he's so incredible and it's such a sort of testament to just keeping going and you learn so much.

28:29As people often say, you learn more of the failures than you do of the successes. Well, that's it. So Nick Santori, he'd had failures of his own, things like Scorpions didn't massively trouble the scorers, but he'd done things like Law and Order, which you just have to keep writing, boom, you have to keep churning them out. And when you've got that skill set and then he finds something like Reacher, which feels it's absolutely in his wheelhouse because Reacher is very sort of macho, but it's kind of funny. Reacher knows he's a joke. Reacher understands his own irony. And Nick Santoro writes that very, very well.

28:57You know, there's lots of, you know, however much it might sort of feel like an episode of the A-Team. It's like he's all four members of the A-Team in one Reacher and Nick Santoro deals with that incredibly well. They were lucky with him. They were very lucky. Alan Richardson. Yeah, Alan Richardson is, I think he's a really interesting person in lots and lots of ways. He's had a really, that is someone who was around for a long time and went through a lot of stuff. And he's kind of, he's really interesting because he's very open about things and he's got a lot, he, you know, we talk about screen persona and I'm sorry, Tom Cruise's screen persona just isn't, in my view, compatible with the character of Jack Reacher.

29:34Yeah, Jack Reacher has to hide an awful lot all of the time. Yeah, because he's obviously a very moral person and that sort of sense of not really fitting in. And, you know, I mean, that is the whole point. He is the wandering hero. A stranger rides into town, that old fictional archetype of the hero, the Joseph Campbell archetype, that is Reacher. And I find him very interesting as an actor because of the way he talks. I mean, he says things like, first of all, he's very Christian. He says, but he says, you know, he hates the church, lots of the established church in many, many ways. He finds it disgusting.

30:07He says really openly, you know, I think it's when you think about who's watching this show. Oh, it's just, you know, Donald Trump's like the worst person in the world. He's a rapist and a criminal. And I can't believe that, you know, Christian Wright has sort of pretended that he's one of their people. He says, I'm bipolar. He says, oh, yeah, of course I take testosterone. How do you think? I mean, it's amazing that he's a very sort of candid, candidly troubled. I mean, he's very he's such a perfect fit. and he is very, very tall. He's not, he's like, he's actually sort of six foot two, which is basically a giant in television terms, you know, with President Company accepted.

30:45But in general, you know, he would, this is why he can look taller than anybody. He's super ripped though. I love it whenever he takes all his clothes off, which he does sometimes. Which he has to do once an episode for various reasons. Yeah, well, he's only got one set of clothes. He's got one set of clothes and a toothbrush. But I love it when he has to take his clothes off. He's always got these slim black pants on and there's always a woman around. The woman is literally just going, they're always just going, you just have to slightly look away and just go, okay. It's like you can't stare directly at the sun.

31:11Yeah. But it is hugely successful. And again, we mentioned this before when we talked slightly about it in the context of various other shows. You don't read one million articles about it. It's not all over every way. And yet it just is miles and by far and away the most watched thing. Yeah, by a million miles. And they're doing a spinoff, which unsurprisingly, Francis Neely, who was the private eye who used to be in his army unit. They're doing a spinoff with her as well, which I imagine would be an enormous hit. But yeah, so the biggest show on streaming in America. And shall we go through the rest of the time?

31:45I just wanted to sing the praises of Nick Santora there, because I think sometimes when you see a show like that, everyone can talk about Alan Richardson, everyone can talk about Lee Child, and sometimes it's so many things that go from page to screen don't work. And you get someone like Nick Santora, and it's just impressive what he's done, the apprenticeship he served, and then he goes, right, I've got this one. All those things contributed to this. This is for me. So in the rest of that top ten, I'll pick up a couple. You might pick up different ones. Family Guy is number two. Well, I thought Family Guy was tied with Bluey.

32:18Yeah, but I think it's just on... Is it just over? Yeah. I mean, that says a lot. Well, it says a couple of things. The reason Family Guy is there, well, lots of reasons, it's huge, but there's a lot of episodes. because, as you say, they do it per minute viewed and it's billions and billions and billions. And the streamers, in the same way that the streamers have just worked out that they can schedule things at particular times of the week and the streamers have worked out, they can put adverts in their programs, the streamers are just working out it would be great to start having returning series with lots and lots of episodes in it, which, of course, was the network business model forever because they're seeing, if you've got Family Guy, Gunsmoke, which hasn't been on since the 60s, recently went into the streaming top 10, Gunsmoke, because there's 400 episodes.

33:05And if you get hooked on it, you just keep watching forever and ever. So one of the big new calls they're having now is bring us returnable series, bring us things that can come back, bring us things where we can do 13 episodes and that are episodic and that are set somewhere and that there's kind of cost-effective for us to do. And they are literally step-by-step. Yeah, bring us network television libraries. Turning into network television. because they're absolutely eating through the libraries of these things. And we'll all, you know, in the same way we still listen to the Beatles, we're still going to be watching Friends in 30 or 40 years' time.

33:37But you do slightly have to keep, you know, putting new things into the pool. So I thought that was interesting. Yeah, Bluey, almost identical with Family Guy, which is incredible, isn't it? Again, making programs for kids is a huge deal still. The White Lotus was at four, which I think is, that is huge. I remember just before the season started, we were saying to each other, is the White Lotus sort of big enough that we might even do it before it's actually on air? And the answer before, you know, lots of these shows that get lots of buzz, they're not actually that high rating. And lots of things on HBO, which get huge amount of buzz and a lot of awards don't actually rate very highly.

34:14But the White Lotus, this has just completely tipped over now into some sort of kind of massive phenomenon that it should be up there at four. Because yes, by the way, it gets an unbelievable amount of coverage because people just write about it. It gets free advertising all the time because people write about feuds between cast members or, you know, oh, this is broken every taboo or whatever it is that you get this constant, constant free kind of media coverage, which you don't get for Reacher. You don't get for all these other things. But it's interesting that that has now gone that's gone stratospheric.

34:46and in the rest of the top 10 there's things like 1923 which is um which is one of the taylor sheridan shows moana 2 is up there and moana 2 is really the biggest thing it's just a cut per billion minutes yeah you know it's there's only one of them um love is blind is the only reality show up there but number nine on this list number nine in the top 10 number 10 is severance by the way and number nine on this list now this is america is a big country it's like it's like it's like the big entertainment capital of the world uh it's absolutely enormous in every way Number nine on the list, adolescence.

35:17Wow. Well, that, again, once something becomes a sort of cultural phenomenon and the controversy or the discourse of it all just takes on a life of its own, then, and I thought that, you know, once you start that, it's so propulsive, you'll continue with it. So to get people into that is kind of phenomenal. But it was like that with Baby Reindeer. Yeah. Suddenly everyone had a view on this thing and you sort of feel like you have to watch it and if it is sufficiently propulsive and Baby Randy was sort of helped in lots of ways, I think, by the fact that you could just binge it really quite quickly because whatever it was, seven half hours or some of them were a bit longer.

35:54But the same with adolescence. You couldn't take your eyes off it once you were in. But again, if you're Netflix, it is all well and good and adolescence is all well and good. But if you can have an adolescence where you can do eight episodes and then you can do another eight and then another eight and another eight, that's the real dream. I mean, Severance, you can sort of, they can keep kind of slightly going back to where they were but you know Reacher you can do episodes of Reacher forever until you know Adam Richland says no to it so it's that thing of it's great having these sort of um you know real marquee shows that everyone's talking about but if you can have a marquee show that everyone's talking about and it can come back and back and back and back that's the business the the the streamers are now and if you go see any streamer that's the thing they're looking for they're not looking for some big thing that they can put a massive star in and it runs for four episodes and it costs more than three movies put together they are saying bring me a big star but in the same way that used to sign them up for seven seasons in sitcoms in in uh in the us and drama series give us a show and we'll tie the star in for a number of seasons and that's the thing i think that's going to change massively um in netflix can i can i say one final thing about lee child yes um he uh i've talked before about how i named my characters he named so many of his characters after Aston Villa players.

37:09It's amazing. In his very first book, The Killing Floor, which is great. If you've not read Jack Reacher, you really can start from the very beginning, The Killing Floor. But in there, he's got Mayor Teal. He's named after Sean Teal, the Aston Villa player. Even in the second book, he's got Paul McGrath, which is a direct name. Yeah, just a direct name. He's got a character called Milosevic, which people assumed was named after the war criminal of Slobodan Milosevic, but was named after Savo Milosevic, the Aston Villa striker. He's got Skimeca. He's got Weirth from Peter Weirth, Gary Shaw. He's got Carbone.

37:38He's got a character called Graham Taylor. So he knows loads and loads of his characters after that. But as so often, we save the very best, the very biggest stories till last. Now, an awful lot of things have happened since this podcast began. The world has changed in lots of ways. Politically, the world of entertainment. We live in a slightly different world than we did way back when. But I think of all the things that have ever happened, this story might be the biggest. Yeah, and I mean, why wasn't it on the front pages of a lot of places? Catch up, guys, because Glenn Powell has launched a sauce brand.

38:14Let me tell you what he'll do you, Richard. It's called Smash Kitchen. Oh, that's good. Yeah, Smash Kitchen. He'll do you a yellow mustard, a Dijon mustard. He'll do you a ketchup. He'll do you a hot honey ketchup. Hot honey ketchup, my stage name. He'll do you an American barbecue sauce. Your stripper name. He'll give you an American barbecue sauce, a hot honey barbecue sauce, mayo and spicy mayo. and I'll tell you what he'll do, Richard, which is what makes this interesting, is that he will sell it via Walmart at an affordable price. None of that will cost you any more than$4.79 and some of it will cost as little as$2.

38:48Now. Sorry, did we go to adverts? Yes. No, none of this is sponsored, but although, Glenn, if you do want to sponsor, please, please get in touch. Send us some source. Just anyway, get in touch. You have to really just make sure it's sealed before you send it over. You don't want, you don't want. Well, I'm sure that he will have taken care of every detail, Richard. Now, this is selling through Walmart, which I think is really interesting, and I'll get into that in a minute, because lots of celebrities have got artisan this and that brands, haven't they? You know, if Brooklyn Beckham does a hot sauce and he has done one, you know, especially curated.

39:18Yeah, he's got a hot sauce, you know. I'm not a hot sauce guy. Oh my God, I absolutely love hot sauce. Yeah, yeah. I have many, many hot sauces, but yeah. Me, I have many, many hot sauces. But this is the one I want most, by the way. All right, Woodward and Bernstein. Now listen. Okay, so he had a big launch party and he had it in, you know, in Beverly Hills or wherever it was in Hollywood. And they had lots of sort of fancy celebrities went along and they had a French fries station, but whatever. So they did all the sort of glitzy side of it. Gwyneth Paltrow unboxed someone, whatever. It's organic, this thing.

39:57Actually, DiCaprio was there, I saw. DiCaprio. Yeah. I mean, you know you've made it in Hollywood if you do with sources. Stella McCartney. I mean, I think it's just like random famous people in town that night. But you think about the stuff DiCaprio must get invited to. Yeah. I mean, it must be sort of non-stop. He's got something, Richard. I'm telling you, he's got something. Powell? Yeah. Yeah, he sure has. Now, so, okay, why has he done this? Now, again, they've all got round. Well, no, he's got a backstory. Like, you know, you always have to have the backstory. We all made sauces growing up.

40:26My sister reminded me of my own. I made my own hot honey ketchup at seven years old. We slathered sauces on everything. You know, he's the family. We're all there. So his backstory is I come from a family that you sourced. That we made lots of sauce. Yeah. Okay. Look, it's will this do and it will do. Yes, it will do. Because I put a lot of vinegar on my chips and I've yet to release a wine range. Well, marketeers, please get in touch. Richard would like to partner on a vinegar range. Sarsens, come and get me. Yeah. Big sarsens will be after. I would love that. Now listen, but he, anyway, but what he's really saying with this is of all the things you could do.

41:00I mean, obviously, people do luxury things all the time or they do high-end alcohol brands. They partner with things all the time, celebrities. This, to me, is different, not just because it's Glenn Powell, but, you know, what he's saying is, you know, I'm from the great state of Texas. We love barbecue. I'm for everyone. I'm at a price point everyone can afford. Yeah. Still talk about the source, I think. Yes. I'm a price point for Red State and Blue. Once again, those very helpful Sydney-Sweeney romance rumors I see have, you know, reanimated. Yeah. Can't believe it myself. However, however, again, the Red State King and Queen, they were like, we're for everybody.

41:37And what I think about this is really interesting is that it's mass produced. It's for Walmart. He said, my long-term intention is to change every kitchen staple. Wow. Well, you're an actor. But anyway, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It's 2025. They have to all talk like this. But also, that's why I went into acting. Yeah. But, you know, nothing's going to cost more than$4 or$5. But he said, no one in our country is more than 10 minutes away from a Walmart and it's almost 30 % of the grocery market. Again, he is an actor, but we all talk like this in the year 2025, which I sort of love.

42:08What he's saying is, I'm a mass-produced mainstream star because he does want to get back. Remember I always tell you that Glenn Powell wants to get back to whatever Expendables he was in, Expendables 3, and he was with all the guys and they were all saying to me, oh no, this is what it's like being a movie star in the 90s. He's like, he can't believe it. He wants to tunnel his way back to that level of kind of mass appeal. So Glenn Powell is this source, Richard, as I suppose why I am saying it in lots of ways. But I'll tell you what it reminds me, because it's such a sort of direct callback to it.

42:35Also, so much of the things he does, that sort of, you know, that character in Top Gun Maverick, when he's sort of trying to, you know, basically sort of trying to do a, not a simulacrum of Val Kilmer, but a bit of one. And then this one, Newman's Own Source. Remember Paul Newman? Yeah. The story of Newman's Own Source is quite interesting. He started it with a writer called A.E. Hotchner, who was Hemingway's biographer. And one Christmas, in some barn that Paul Newman made, they thought, well, we're constantly talking about salad dressing. We make it, we bottle it for all our friends. They're constantly talking about salad dressing.

43:09Yeah, Hotchner's very funny about it. It's like he would ring me the whole time, just wanted to talk about salad dressing. I was like, we've got to do something with this. Anyway, so they make this sauce. They give it to some friends. Everybody loves it. They keep talking about it. And he's like, OK, let's think how we do this. Martha Stewart sets up a sort of blind taste test with proper judges. It's all done by the book. Everyone puts this Newman's own sauce, which is a salad dressing, I think the first one they do, first. And then apart from two who put it as second. So they're like, okay, fine.

43:35So they become a company that day. They make a million in their first year. Paul Newman didn't want his face anywhere on it, if you've actually seen the bottles of it, because it was a mass-produced item. Again, it went into every American supermarket. And he was like a proper big A-list, scarcity value stuff. Unbelievable. And one of the great movie stars. But he hated what he called noisy philanthropy. So he said, I don't want to be on this. And he didn't even want them to put 100 % of profits, which they still all go to charity. Oh, do they? Okay, I don't know. Smash Kitchen's profits, the whereabouts of them have not been specified.

44:11So I think they perhaps go to Glen Power and his business partners. But anyway. Fair enough. That's a traditional way to do business. I get it. But even back then, they were inventing all the stories on the packaging. So there was a thing that he said, there was organic pretzels and it said my daughter I had to forfeit my house to my daughter when she came up with a better I said you couldn't come up with an organic pretzel and she did and I had to give her my house and the daughter's like yeah no that's not true but and then he said some of them were stupid they were like I bought this spicy pasta sauce back myself from hell yeah so there were ones like that I remember for my book the World Cup of Everything I was doing chain restaurants and I was looking into Frankie and Benny's I love doing things like that and Frankie and Benny's menu is all kind of and Francisco and Benedicto came over from Napoli in the 1920s and I sort of looked them up and it was established in Leicester in 1995 or something.

45:03Yeah, tell me actually what, tell me, I'd like to know a lot more about Jack Daniel's Hollow than is on the posters. Every time I'm standing on a tube platform and I read about it, I'm like, yeah, I'd love to visit. It'd be like a horrible facility. Yeah, every brand should start. It was 2021 when two venture capitalists had noticed that tequila was doing particularly well. And they thought, how can we elbow into this market? It's that sweet sip and private equity. Yeah, well, OK, but Glenn Powell is the source. This is what I'm trying to say to you, that he is trying to be a mass market. So I find it absolutely hilarious that of all the, and also just that actors have to talk like that nowadays, which I just find genuinely hysterical.

45:43But do you think, shall I tell you why I think it is? because back in the day, they could be paid$20 million a movie. Yeah. Right? And Glenn knows that because he's gone on The Expendables 3. And what do you think he's on a movie? Eight? Yeah. Something like that. Maybe less. So he's got to think, how do I make$12 million a year? I'm just literally thinking, I'm in a business where it used to be I would be paid$40 million a year. I'm currently being paid$18 million a year. So I feel$22 million poor. But he sells it. He sells it. I believe every single word about this story. He's from the Grocery.

46:15state of Texas. Yeah, heard of it. He's not part of Hollywood. All of it actually contributes to the same overall brand. So whoever is Glenn Powell's sort of brand supremo, and there'll be about 50 of them on a team, that's another thing. You've got to pay those people. So whoever's creating the world of Glenn Powell. It was around about 2023 when three brand consultants working for Glenn Powell had a bright idea. Working for Creative Artists Agency. One of them, you know. Yeah, and they're going, Glenn, please, is it any story about sourcing your childhood? Just anything at all? I think once I mixed up a couple of sauces at home and I got in trouble.

46:49Yeah, so you invented your own sauce. I did two sachets. I guess so. Exactly. Occasionally I would put mustard and ketchup from the same thing on the same burger. So you made sauces. But his aim is quite simply to change every single kitchen staple. And they're going to have others. There's going to be more. I am here for every second of this rollout across Walmart and hopefully across the Atlantic Ocean. Actually, I'm going to America in early June. And if you don't think I'm bringing back some Glen Powell sauce. Yeah, I'm going to New York and I'm sure. Will they have it? Will it be available bi-coastally?

47:18I'm not sure because it's available in Walmart, but I'll see if I can find one in Manhattan. By the way, they're going to let you in. Yeah. Have you any recommendations? I do. Interior Design Masters has started again on BBC One with Alan Carr and Michelle Agundihin. And it's just a well-made show where someone gets kicked off every week, but you get to see lots of interior design and you're going to go, that radiator is absolutely going to see you on Michelle's sofa. I'm so sorry. it's a really lovely bit of TV the sort of thing we're going to miss in a few years time so let's enjoy it while we can Thank you very much, it was a lot of fun Thank you, it was lovely We will be back with a questions and answers episode on Thursday and also if you're part of our membership club which you can join by signing up to therestersentertainment.com we have part two of our two part series on the island of Dr Moreau one of the most catastrophic film productions of all time.

48:15The first episode was so ridiculous. I can't wait for the second one. It was so ridiculous. I think we're putting a little two-minute teaser at the end of this episode. If you keep listening, you might have to listen through some ads, but it's a couple of minutes of a free island of Dr Moreau material. Lunacy. Pure lunacy. Other than that, we will see you on Thursday. See you on Thursday, everyone. See you on Thursday.

48:48Anyway, the ultimate costume that Brando ends up wearing in this is one of the most iconic, ridiculous costumes you'll ever see committed to cellulite. But actually, once he commits, they think, oh, hang on, Marlon Brando's doing this. Who's this Richard Stanley guy? We don't really care. So they try and, behind Richard Stanley's back, they offer it to Roman Polanski, obviously who is living in Europe because he can't go back to the United States because he's been convicted of statutory rape. But, you know, this is... Hollywood. Yeah, Fugitive. He's a safe pair of hands. But Richard Stanley finds out about this and he thinks, OK, he is clever.

49:17So he thinks, I can see the only way I can get this to happen because it's all about Marlon Brando is if Brando likes me. So he says, I want a face to face meeting with Marlon Brando. And he also just from the neck up. Yeah, just from the neck up. And he also gets a warlock to place a protective spell over this project. That's such a good idea. As I say, Richard Stanley is, yeah, I know. I mean, you do that for every series of House of Games anyway. but back in those days it was relatively innovative. Anyhow, so Stanley gets to go and meet Marlon Brando. They sit down and he sort of charms him and he says, by the way, Wells did say that he didn't base Dr.

49:52Moreau on Colonel Kurtz, blah, blah. He based him on this explorer, the South African explorer, Henry Morton Stanley, which reveal Richard Stanley is the great grandson of. Brando's like, right, this is destiny. Yeah, that's a good one. Okay, fine. That's clever. It'd be amazing if he wasn't. Yeah, what a play. But Brando's like, okay, that's it. I will do it with this guy and no one else. So anyway, we should talk about the warlock just briefly because I said something about a warlock and then I just moved on. Now, the warlock, Richard Stanley's mother is very into witchcraft, the occult, all that sort of stuff.

50:24Now, Edward James Featherstone, a.k.a. Skip, not a classic warlock name, but maybe what do I know? Skip the warlock. Yeah, he practices something called invisible mending, which is not the same thing. They'll charge you a lot of money to do some actual, what I would regard as witchcraft for making, bending a hole in your jumper or something. You wouldn't know it'd ever been torn. No, but Polanski is off the project. So are you saying that the spell didn't work? I don't know. I'm just making connections. As they say nowadays, I'm just asking questions. Just asking questions. I'm just asking questions.

50:52So Richard Stanley's back on board and it all looks good again. Because of the warlock. Because of the warlock. And lying about being the great grandson of Henry Morton Stanley. Which just for the benefit of our readers, he actually is. He actually is.

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