Marina Is Wrong About The Best Bond Theme

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2:02Hello and welcome to this episode of The Rest is Entertainment, questions and answers edition. I'm Marina Hyde.

2:08Richard Osman:And I'm Richard Osman. Hello Marina. Hello Richard, how are you? I'm very well, looking forward to answering questions. Soon we're going to do an episode where we're not answering questions, so we are again on the lookout for questions from our audience, this time for... Tom Hanks. Heard of him? Yes, Cinemas Tom Hanks. yeah from the movies the guy from Big you know Tom Hanks smash yeah Tom Hanks they got him he has had a long and amazing career and we are taking any and all of your questions and we're going to be talking to him fairly soon so get them in please to the rest is entertainment at goalhanger.com that's such a question I love the way we always have to look at Jerry we've done this so long I'm really it is he's given us a thumbs up the rest is entertainment at goalhanger.com any question you've ever wanted to ask Tom Hanks you never ever let us down with those things so um looking forward to that but shall we get on with our questions now please do Bridget Mayer or Bridget Meyer has a question for you about the roast of Kevin Hart which is on Netflix why are Americans obsessed with roasts it seems quite an arcane format but the Kevin Hart roast on Netflix looks like it has been a great success it has been a success the roast format is basically comedians taking the piss out of somebody else in this case also a comedian but not always it's funny we think of them as I don't know whether it's just that our whole British culture is like this so we don't actually feel we're always taking the piss out of everyone and putting them down so we don't really feel the need to have a dedicated thing whereas they're always building everyone up but every now and then they like to have a sort of a safe space a safe space where they can say the worst things imaginable but they really are I mean genuinely shocking you know I mean Kevin Hart is sitting there listening to all of his infidelities being listed yeah people like insults comedy they really like it the reason I like them is because I think I just really like jokes and if people have crafted a beauty because you know you don't have long lots of people come into the microphone you've got a short space of time so and it's kind of a it's a competition it's like sport but amongst comedians you can say the worst possible thing here but but it's still be funny yes you really look awful if your thing is cruel funnily enough you actually everyone just thinks or if it's interesting there's sort of a if x then y that you have to absolutely balance it that if it is incredibly cruel it has to be incredibly funny it has to be what always has to be one degree funnier than it is cruel and then you get away with it i agree with you and there are lots of so what's nice about it is that there's that sharp writing there are callbacks there's it's only one night i mean it's like a million we live in a kind of reaction gifs thing of we've discovered and people like watching people's reactions to things.

4:45Will the target take it? That's the thing. It's sort of the comedy of awkwardness as well as the comedy of insults. You can see what fans do like and they do like deadly precision, as you say, not cruelty. It used to be always a Comedy Central thing. Comedy Central used to have this thing entirely sewn up and actually the biggest rating ones and the most memorable kind of cultural moments were Charlie Sheen. That is the number one. now that was because he was he he had that extended pub he has had a number of public meltdowns but this was the really extended one it was totally unpredictable and it was before audiences actually became fragmented in the way that they are now with streaming and also as a

5:26Richard Osman:comic there are four or five different angles you can come up yeah and it's happening now it's like a live news story um the justin bieber one is is a huge kind of this is probably the next down from that there's a trump one and then some are not successful and people it just it feels off for some reason it never quite catches fun there's a james franco and a bruce willis one but they've now sort of gone to netflix they don't happen that often yeah because it's quite it's quite a lot the tom brady is immense it's far it did far better than the kevin hart one even tom brady in america is so famous over here you have to love the sort of you know the iconic quarterback he's like Beckham for America exactly and it's there's something about sports audience they brought that brought in a sports audience maybe something slightly different he is huge as you say there were really uncomfortable moments in that I mean there's a bit when he says don't say that shit again but that has those elements that as I say that you know it is unpredictable you know that Kevin Hart is not really going to he's going to be able to handle it because that's his job he's had a million worse things shouted at him maybe less artfully but he has in a weird way i found it was quite a it was a bit of a marmalade dropper when tom brady comes on in the in the kevin hart one because the tom brady one is the more iconic one but i do think that people do think the world is sanitized and lots of and perhaps the reason it maybe has kind of cross-cultural appeal if i can put that in a kind of politically neutral way even though i am really talking about politics is because people think, oh, hang on, anything goes here.

7:06This isn't being censored. It's not a sanitized world.

7:10Richard Osman:This is very, very unsanitized. But because you are in an American tradition that you know that there are no rules and the gloves are off, culturally they get away with it, which is why I found it really, really interesting because there's stuff, there's material there that you would not see anywhere else. Everyone has agreed. Everyone on stage has agreed that they're going to do that. Everyone watching signs a contract. that is oh it's a roast so we are all in this space where we go oh we can literally say any joke we want and they really do say any joke they want i yeah so i like i like it and it's all on one it's on one it's one person but actually there was a lot there's a lot against other comedians those riyadh comedians got took quite a haste yes the ones who went to the riyadh comedy festival but you know i do have a sort of weakness for those sorts of things and i think that in the culture when they're super revered i always loved ricky gervais's opening monologues at the golden globes which were so brutal and um they and they just didn't really know how to deal and also you never know who's coming for next in that so you're just people sitting there having to smile glassily while he's saying you work for the most disgusting companies in the world you work for apple you are for amazon and they all just have to sit there on their artistic night so i like all those things But actually what I really like of those things is the craft, is that there's such few words in a way.

8:31And just to kind of make it funny, but also incredibly vicious. I think they're great, but I think it's just in our culture. Just we do it all the time. So maybe we would.

8:40Richard Osman:That's exactly it. You know, we're used to doing those jokes. I mean, these go further. It's definitely, I've said before, I'm sure that the readiest joke I ever heard on television was aimed at Joan Rivers in her roast. I mean, something absolutely extraordinary. But it is, yeah, there, of course, you know, what you can joke about on terrestrial television when, you know, you've got responsibility to an audience is sort of ring fenced. And this is one of the few occasions where you are outside of that ring fence and everyone agrees. So we just say, look, we're just going to do it for tonight.

9:12Richard Osman:Do not watch if you are offended at all by anything, for sure. But I thought it was a very interesting watch for lots of reasons. A question from David Richard. I've read that Jimmy Fallon is going to be producing a new game show based on the Wordle puzzle game and due to air on NBC. The detail that caught my eye was that it will be filmed in Manchester, England. Do they really film American game shows in the UK? What's the attraction? Yes, they do. We'll get on to what the attraction is. It probably won't shock you, but we will get on to that. Yes, so Wordle they're doing over here with Jimmy Fallon, which feels weird to me because one of the biggest game shows in the world is Lingo, which is sort of a TV version of Wordle but whenever we announce any TV show people go, oh that's just like that and you go, no, we thought of that, I promise you that's just, you know so I imagine it won't be the same as Lingo so they're filming that in Manchester it has become a much more common thing recently there's a couple of reasons you'll do certain shows like this Golden Elevator show I'm doing where every territory in the world comes to the same place that happens to be in Belgium just because that's where the set is.

10:21Richard Osman:That's where the production hub is as well. So that's often the thing that happens. But more recently, Americans have started taking their really high volume series to the UK. So recently, I was talking to a brilliant producer who I've worked for years and years, Michelle Woods, who's just done Trivial Pursuit and Scrabble in the UK. They're both American. I mean, they're absolutely nothing to do with the UK at all. They're both for American networks. Craig Ferguson did Scrabble and LeVar Burton did Trivial Pursuit. They, again, filmed that in Manchester. Manchester, England. Manchester, England.

10:59Richard Osman:Yeah, I don't know if you've heard of it. Funnily enough, this always happens. It's probably Salford. Yeah. Because that's where the studios are. It will be Salford, yeah. It'll be Salford. But I guess the Americans think that they can say Manchester and people would have heard of it. So they'll film those things in Salford. the reason for doing it and by the way this is not a sort of oh let's find some Americans who live in Cheshire and bring them in, all of the contestants come from America as well, you get the odd one who's from the UK because that's a bit cheaper but it is cheaper for the Americans to fly over members of their public every single contestant every single executive every single person from the channel every single member of a production team it's cheaper to fly them over to the uk have a uk production team make it they know that the uk production team will make it you know michelle and her team they can make these shows they're brilliant at it they know it will be brilliantly made and they know it will be cheaper and it is i mean it's a union thing i mean it is just an awful lot cheaper to do it over here it is cheaper to fly every single person over here film for a five a day in saulford fly everyone back home and then put it out than it would be to do the whole thing in america and it's yeah it's this is quite this is actually quite quite a recent thing that that thing of having a production hub like doing total wipe out in buenos aires that's been going for years and years and years and years and that's when you've got a big set but the set of scrabble or trivial pursuit or this is i mean you could literally put that anywhere just but this idea that you know you're going to shoot 100 shows and you're going to go over to salford to do it because it's just going to be cheaper for you in production terms and in labor cost to do that that's a sort of new thing as always as a great supporter of the uk entertainment industry i'm all for it i suspect if i was a an american entertainment ap or researcher i'd be less for it it's good business for uk production teams and it's good business for american networks as well and there'll be more and more and more of it but it is weird yeah it is weird you know there it is that's the international nature of television now question for you Marina from Jake Magary, big fan of the pod that's how he gets your question, in fact that's all he says, sorry big fan of the pod, question mark, big fan of the pod ahead of its May release the title song for 007 First Light by Lana Del Rey has been released, my question is what is the likelihood Lana Del Rey thinks she made the song for a Bond film rather than for a game?

13:28Okay, with Lana Del Rey she is very very great and smart, various people who know her dummy, she has got a very fascinating mind so you can be sure that she knew exactly what she was doing. She has submitted a Bond song before and she wrote a song for Spectre and they didn't use it as they used that Sam Smith Writings on the Wall which I think is the only Bond song that ever went to number one maybe. Yeah. You'd know more than me. And Lana Del Rey she's got that voice hasn't she? She'd be great. She's a great Bond voice. I have a weakness for the Bond I prefer my Bond themes to be sung by women.

14:03There's something about it I don't know why it is what it is. I prefer the Bond to be a man.

14:10Richard Osman:It's so weird that you didn't say that to Paul McCartney. But anyway. Well, I mean, that's not one of the great Bond themes and I didn't bring it up. Whoa. Sorry, you don't think Live and Let Die is one of the great Bond themes? No, I don't. I prefer the ones that are women singing in that kind of slightly kind of moody, noir-ish, ethereal way. Have you lost your mind? No, I haven't. You don't think, wow, you don't think Live and Let Die is one of the great Bond themes? It's a very, very good Bond theme, but I prefer, if you think I think it's as good as Skyfall, don't be stupid. I like Skyfall.

14:44Skyfall is brilliant. Skyfall is everything about, the movie is brilliant, everything about it, the tone of the movie, the whole sort of story of what's happening, and Adele is so perfect.

14:55Richard Osman:yeah three best bond themes are in my opinion skyfall of course live and let die and nobody does it better i was against i knew you're gonna say nobody does it better you're correct on skyfall and um oh god what um i don't see like diamonds are forever or something don't go obvious no i'm gonna sheena easton all is it all time high no that was rita coolidge all time high sorry all time high is great but it's too up okay let's just leave it with me i'll come back at the end the Irish no I love it but no anyway sorry can we get back to Lana Del Rey for just a minute well no because my mind has slightly been blown by this anti Paul McCartney rant right it's a friend of ours he's a friend of the pod it's not an anti Paul McCartney rant I just prefer is it pro Paul McCartney I just prefer when women sing them okay for some reason understandable it's James Bond not Jane Bond love you know what I mean okay so this Lana Del Rey one who I think this one that she's done for the game is written by David Arnold who's the original composer of Bond he scored I think not the original no no but he's an original composer and I think he scored four or five films and they're really good people involved with all these games now it's like extraordinary what do we know that has happened it has been acquired by Amazon fully they have control we know they're going to be building it out into a universe I would say that doing that song and the song is great by the way if you listen to the song it's called First Light as well and it's really good if you listen to it.

16:24But again, this can be a springboard. She doesn't really need to get in with them because she's already done things for them. But you can definitely see Lana Daray doing a Bond track at some point. And also, there will be more Bond tracks, as you can see. Obviously, we're not going to be just seeing one film however long. There's going to be many different parts of this universe. There's going to be series. There'll be TV stuff. There'll be all sorts of things. And that's not to say that they're going to completely overflog it and overfarm it and whatever. I'm not suggesting that I know a lot of people worry about that they haven't done it so far we'll see but there will be many more opportunities and I 100 % think her vocal is very suited to it

17:01Richard Osman:and also you'd imagine the house style would be they would have original songs even for the spin-offs because that's something that keeps of course it's part of the whole it's part of the furniture of who they are and how they do it and all of that so yes so the good news is Lana Del Rey knows what she's done and she knows what she's doing but what about hang on what about Gladys Knight yeah I agree with you. It's all time high. I didn't say all time high. What did I say? I said, A Spy Who Loved Me. Nobody Does It Better. Nobody Does It Better is an absolute, and it's also an absolute classic Carly Simon song.

17:34Richard Osman:Agreed. Sky 4 without any question. Agreed. We need a terrible choice for number three. Are you not just going with something like Licence to Kill? Me? No. Are you not just going with Gladys Knight, the two-time singing Licence to Kill? No? I don't think so I think that Chris Cornell and Morton Harkett would like a word Okay If you had to have a man in there Well it would be that Oh hang on, what about, I mean Louis Armstrong Yeah that wasn't an official I mean it's not Duran Duran let's face it Okay That's fair enough We can agree on some things Yeah okay Alright let's just put it to a vote What is Top three of our listeners top three of our listeners we will send it out to our members okay members you'll be able to reply to that we'll we'll email you and then you can vote on your top three so that will actually be quite interesting yeah i think i'm forgetting things in the moment i'm forgetting songs but we also there's a lot of work for our listeners to do because on tuesday's episode they have to answer the question of have you heard of a phenotype or have you heard a big break that's not what the question is you'll see what you're doing that's a form of false polling it just depends entirely how you answer the question anyway let's go to a break now

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22:34Richard Osman:welcome back everybody don't pretend we haven't been arguing through the efforts welcome back everybody helen smith has got a question save us helen my husband and i love the great british menu she says but we're baffled by judging day how long does it take to film and how do the judges manage to taste so many dishes in a single day eight mains or desserts in one day seems almost impossible i love that question helen thank you because it is there's a there's a lot going on in the great british menu by the way that's very quietly been built into such an important franchise for the bbc it's incredibly impressive what they've done so i asked sarah eglin who's the executive producer of great british menu helen and i'm just going to read out what she says verbatim because i love it when producers tell you about how they put their shows together sarah thanks you for your question helen she says it takes a whole day to film each episode with four chefs cooking in the morning and four chefs cooking in the afternoon.

23:27Richard Osman:Tom Kerridge actually goes to a nearby gym and has time to do a full workout and shower before returning. Wow. So in the middle of the day, that's his secret to making more space for the calories. Our food is served hot, which is not always the case on these shows. So once the chefs say the food is ready, it takes under a minute for the food to leave the kitchen and arrive with the judges. One of the challenges for the crew is filming Tom's plate before he finishes eating as he is an extraordinarily fast eater. No judge has to finish their plate, but most plates return to the pot wash empty. We have a separate serving which is used for filming the graphic shot of the dish and the crew take it in turns to eat this afterwards.

24:01Richard Osman:So that is quite often you have a lovely cutaway of the dish and they'll do a lovely shot of that. That will be done like Race Across the World when the crew go back to the route and do lovely GVs and everything. Although one time Andy Oliver accidentally ate the remaining pieces of a beautiful sharing loaf before it had been filmed. Andy. During dessert finals, we have cheese and biscuits on standby to help with all the sugar. And this is the one lunch break where the judges might join the crew for lunch to get more savoury food into their system. I could do dessert day without. I wouldn't need a single bit of non-sugar.

24:35You've trained yourself. Yeah, I really have.

24:36Richard Osman:You're a professional. That I could do, Sarah, if you're ever looking for anyone. The mains final. I love this. The mains final is not for the faint-hearted. That's Marine. I think I could, yeah. In fact, look, here's a friend of yours who's on it. I was momentarily worried we might kill National Treasurer Sir Stephen Frears, who judged eight main courses with us. None of the chefs buy their ingredients. They submit the recipes in advance, and our home economics team supplies all the food within our budget. Some chefs do use their own money on presentation props, but spending a fortune is discouraged, as if that chef wins, we won't be able to replicate it at the banquet finale episode when the production supplies all the presentation for 80-plus guests.

25:13Richard Osman:The Great British Menu moved production to the Midlands over seven years ago, so we rely on persuading famous people to come to Stratford-upon-Avon for the whole day. I didn't know it was in Stratford-upon-Avon. I didn't either. I love Stratford-upon-Avon. Yes, I know you do. Yeah. You'll be visiting relatively soon, I believe. Yes, we're going to see Mark Gatiss's play. I really want to see that. Yes. Anyway, that's absolutely by the by. We're talking about Great British Menu. And our studio, Sarah says, is the old Teletubby studio. I still remember Peter Hook, the bassist from New Order, being a fantastic and hilariously entertaining guest judge during the music-themed year for dessert finals some years ago.

25:48Richard Osman:Dessert finals. I mean, I would just watch that. He explained he'd be able to eat every last crumb of his eight desserts, as sugar was now his acceptable drug of choice. But he was done for speeding on the way back home on the M6, and it might have had something to do with all that sugar. That is fantastic, Sarah. Thank you so much for those. She sort of answered about four different questions there, but I loved all of them. Marina, a question for you from Tasha. Tasha asks, when two high-profile celebrities start dating, do their respective managers or agents team up to agree on how and when they'll go public with their relationship.

26:21Richard Osman:I'm thinking of Kim Kardashian and Lewis Hamilton. Is Insta official now old hat? Okay, that's interesting. First of all, I mean, those two, I don't think he would think about things like that in quite the same way. She would think absolutely with a team about almost how everything she does, but that's just perhaps the nature of the person. In the old days, you know, it would be quite simple. You'd be photographed together. maybe then people started doing joint magazine features about their love paid for. The Beckhams had a press conference to announce their engagement. It's really weird watching that take that documentary that was released on Netflix, which is really good.