Oscars, Clichés and Cool

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0:44Because we had a row. A lot of people on social media, I was very touched, they said I don't like it when mummy and daddy row. We had a discussion. Oh, it was an argument. It was a full on argument. It wasn't. If you didn't listen to it. Oh, buck up. See, do you think we're having a row now? No. Do you? I think a little bit, because you just told me to buck up. Someone asked a question about what we considered to be cool. Marina had, I thought, a very traditional version of it, a sort of Steve McQueen-type version of it, and I was trying to expand the definition of cool. You were trying to expand it infinitely, weren't you, to people you liked?

1:18Pierce Bosn, I said, was cool. He's suave, Richard. I give 100 % of him that. Let's let listeners weigh in, rather than... We can't refight the Second World War. I'm told that the support was overwhelmingly for my position in the inbox. massively in your favour. I would say that, but that's not always... Wow, how cool. You're out on the edge. You're an outlier. Sounds like it, right? Yeah. I said Pierce Brosnan was cool. You don't think he is. I think he's suave. I said Victoria Wood was cool. I said Stephen Hendley was cool. Shall we go through what a few other people said? As you say, most people agree with you.

1:48I have to say, Gemma Meade says, I'm with Marina. A lot of the messages started with I'm with Marina. Yeah. I'm with Marina or hashtag Team Marina. Richard was naming brilliant people, but not cool. Cool is different. End of. If only that were the end, Gemma. Megan Morris says, it was all a bit personal. She said, I would say that Marina is cool and Richard is nice. Oh, man. I'm not cool, though. Pierce Brosnan is absolutely not cool and nor is Victoria Wood, says Megan. OK. Paul Williams, I'm 58 and from the era of big snooker. Same. As much as I love Richard, Henry was never cool. He was the least cool of all the snooker players ever.

2:24If I had to go for one, it'd be Big Bill Werbenyuk. Oh, really? I thought he was going to say Jimmy White. OK. No, Bill Worthing, it was cool. Come on, let's not do... Let's not go back to snooker. Chris Ship, great name. If you say it quickly, it sounds like Cruise Ship. So people must think if he's on a crackly phone, a cruise ship is ringing me. Anyway, Chris Ship says, Again, a lot of this cuts fairly to the quick for me. Couldn't help but feel Richard's coolest was close to what I assume Alan Partridge would say. Wow. Wow. Listen, I get it. I do get it. Andrew Knight says, I too like Piers Brosnan, but he is not cool.

2:59My wife certainly doesn't think so. On our honeymoon to Bora Bora, it's a hell of a place to go on a honeymoon, isn't it? It's a bit White Lotus. He and his wife were in the same hotel in the next bungalow to ours. Oh, he's got a bit of money, Andrew Knight, if he's staying at the same resort as Brosnan. Because, listen, he may not be cool, but he's loaded. He said, my wife found him to be overly flirty, even while at dinner with his wife. Nine months later, when our daughter was born with very dark hair, we joked that Brosnan was the father. You just read that out? Yeah, well, he told us. he's written it in I'm not saying Brosnan was the father he's just saying that, you know I had a lot to say last week but I'm speechless at this moment carry on so listen, most people agree with you Paul Oliver I think sums it up best when he says as usual, Marina is right Richard has just described people my nan likes oh Sam Rucker it's interesting this isn't it, because sometimes and this was my point I think is I thought your definition of cool was very traditional and surely it's changed since the 50s.

3:59I know that James Dean used to be cool. The words mean different things than they did in the 90s. That's interesting. Yeah, they do and this is one of them. Does definition mean the same thing? Sam Rucker, okay. Sam Rucker says this, he or she, you can tell he or she is young because he starts with Marina, I think you are sick. He means that in a good way. Semantic shift, word has changed. Semantic shift, exactly. We haven't said that on the show before. I think you are sick, but Richard is right about cool. The definition has 100 % changed and the fact that you don't know that, is very much uncool.

4:28These days, you can be sensitive, intelligent, and maybe even slightly nerdy, and be very cool. Thank you, Sam. That was my point. Well, then you can be anything, can't you? You can be an infinite number of qualities. Well, we're not going to get back into it, but I do believe there has been contact. Yes, there has. I said, and I stick by it, Stephen Hendry is cool. And the reason I said Stephen Hendry is cool is because he comes across as very uncool on television. And when you meet him, it's very different, and he is very cool, especially for a snooker player. You, and I have to say 90 % of our respondents, disagree with me strongly about that.

4:59Should I tell you someone who agrees with me that Stephen Hendry is cool? Stephen Hendry. Take a listen to this. Hi Richard. Thank you all so much for your compliments, saying that I'm cooler than Johnny Depp. As you and I know, it's without question. And Marina, I'm very disappointed. What's not cool about spending your whole life in a dark room potting balls with a wooden stick on a 12 by 6 table for 6 hours every day wearing a dinner suit every day as your work clothes what's not cool about that? way cooler than what's his name? Captain Jack Sparrow cheers guys you see I love Stephen Hendry but he is actually I'm sorry that's a real Rorschach video there because he's agreeing with me.

5:54He's making a joke about it. And you could say there's elements of cool indivisible. He's not making a joke about it. Oh, please. Of course he's not. Wearing a dinner suit as your work clothes. Yes, he is making a joke. I'm sorry you couldn't hear it. Oh, my God. Wow. So I'll tell you something else I'm going to do. At the premiere of Thursday Murder Club, I'm going to get Brosnan to come and talk to you. All right? I'm going to give him... Yes, please. He's so suave, Richard. He's so suave. You know what? I'm going to give him ten minutes with you. And after this, I'm going to say, do we still think he's suave or do we think he's cool?

6:21If you still think he's not cool after that, I will let it lie. But I'm going to give you 10 minutes alone with Brosnan. Great, you've just booked an item for that week's podcast. So I'm in. But thank you very much, everybody, for your many responses. But yes, listen, almost everyone agrees with you. But listen, I'm very, very used to that on this podcast. I'm a voice in the wind. I really, really understand it. No, you're not. Yes, I am. No, you're not. Let's get to some questions, Richard. Yes, let's do that. And let's hope there's no rounds this time. We'll start with a topical one from Kate Bradley.

6:50With the Oscars soon, just wondering how they decide who sits where. With road seating, how is it decided who sits further at the front? And with rows and tables, do big names get to veto who they sit next to? Any tales of people refusing their seating allocation? Ah, that is interesting. This has been fraught with danger and politics, this particular thing. There was a guy called Otto Spowery who did it for about 20 years. He gave quite lengthy interviews. He stopped doing it, honestly, about 20 years ago, but he gave quite lengthy interviews about the whole process. And I think the first year he did it, he put some people who he didn't realise they'd had a relationship together.

7:26So he thought, after that, I did my homework. Oh, really? Yeah. But there's so many things to consider. The most important thing to consider with the Oscars is that it is a TV event. It is entirely made for television, and it has to be a show. So if you've got someone in the wrong place and they've got to do a 25-second walk to the podium and you have a few of those, the producers are tearing their hair out because it takes so long. So you need to get them close. Everything has to be guessed. They don't get told. As you know, do you remember, there's this whole sort of thing like it's chained to an accountant's wrist or whatever, these things.

7:57And it's like, yeah, but you still awarded best picture to the wrong, you know, when they awarded it to La La Land instead of Moonlight. Anyway, but before, they'll have pictures from the theatre and you will have those pictures of where everyone's going to sit and it will be their kind of acting directory, headshot in the seats and where they're going to see. But they have many, many seat fillers. I think they have 300 seat fillers on the night because you're supposed never to see because this thing goes on forever. And when people want to go to the Lior, go out for whatever reason, you can't see empty seats at the Oscars because who wouldn't kill to be there?

8:30So they get them all done up in their gowns and their whatever. And you're not allowed to speak unless you're spoken to, but you're kind of bust in and you can see someone leaving in one of the ad breaks and you have to go and sit there. But the main thing you see, everything, think about this show as a television programme. So you have to have clear shots, camera shots, lines for the reaction. So you have to think, we don't know who's going to win best actor, but I want to be able to see each of them look so happy it wasn't them. So glad that it was... Camera three has got Adrian Brody, for example, and you've got a clear shot of him and no one tall is in the way of that person.

9:03So the director knows exactly where everyone is. And you need to do that with a ton of categories. So they've got... By the way, listen, I know that I'm on TV a lot and I apologise, but there was a cutaway of me and my brother and Ingrid on Match of the Day. I know. Oh my God, I was so excited. I was like, oh my God, I'm on TV. That was one of the best things that ever happened to me. On Match of the Day as well? On Match of the Day. I was so happy. It's so weird, like, of all the things you've been on and you're like, oh my God, I've been in a cutaway on Match of the Day. That's it. I was really excited.

9:30So in terms of the actual sort of seating, it's obviously actors and Mr. Spielberg at the front, basically. and then the crafts categories are at the back because no one really cares about them although we do care blah blah but then there are weird you know there are local politicians there are like ABC dignitaries there are money people lawyers and they want to sit near celebrities if you've got someone who's giving you a lot of money or someone who's who is broadcasting your event then you put them as near to Jack Nicholson as you can you do but the academy makes 90 % of its entire but all of its activities off this TV broadcast from ABC so they need to make it a really good show.

10:07And they sometimes put movie casts together so you can see that we're all patting each other on the back when we get it. And the thing about the seating now is that we live in freeze frame culture. We live in a nightmarish world. It is so dangerous. Not only have they got lip readers on all the people, you have to be hyper disciplined because no one ever paused before we had digital TV, any of this stuff. But so many of them become a reaction meme. Most famous one of all, like Chrissy Teigen looking like she's crying. That's actually from the Golden Globe. We did a terrible one at the BAFTAs once because we forgot we were on camera We were very annoyed about a particular decision and yeah, we were on camera at the time Well you've become a meme forever Think of that one where Meryl Streep is in the audience pointing at the stage that I think Patricia Garchet had said something about wage equality or something Do you remember Nicole Kidman's really weird clapping with her fingers?

10:54It's so weird, Google Nicole Kidman clapping or you've probably just attached that meme to a million other things Andrew Garfield grunting his teeth in excruciation and Jennifer Aniston waving and not getting waved back because the person doesn't see her. It's like, yep, it happens to her as well. When Green Book won, Chadwick Boseman giving it real side-eyed, somewhere behind him. You become a meme, like, really quickly. And so every year yields new ones. So you have to be very, very disciplined. But I would love all these sort of seating plans. They used to have them on Concord, which was at Concord they only had.

11:25Certain people can't sit next to certain other people. Well, yeah, but also on Concord they had the first three rows were a complete, more than your stock price, more than anything. It was like your personal price as a, you know, like is Murdoch in 1A? And if he's not in 1A, then who the hell else is on that flight? Because all the seats are the same. And there are two on either side of a long aisle. And that was a huge thing. Where you sat on Concorde for certain people was absolutely massive. I was on two sides of one story once. There was a celebrity and they were saying that they were sat in there like seat 1B on a British Airways flight.

11:56and as they got there they realised that in seat 1A was Piers Morgan and they were like, ah. And so they swapped seats with one other person in their party so they sat in two and the other person was sitting next to Piers Morgan and then I saw Piers Morgan in his column just go, I'm not saying that I'm famous but I was in row one and XXX was in row two and I'm like... Yeah, it wasn't about that. No, it wasn't about that. So essentially it's a combination of there's like a social secretary who does all their research into who can't sit next to who and previous relationships and things and then you run it past ABC who are saying, we need this person here, this person there.

12:31Correct, but you can petition. And they always say, if you do it politely and explain, there's a reason we can't, and your people do it politely, then they do occasionally make, you know, alterations to their plasmo, as it were. And that does happen. Have you ever been at a wedding where someone's swapped a place? Oh, I mean, like almost every wedding, I think. Yeah, I'm not doing that. Yeah, at some ceremonies, people just go and sit next to each other. Celebrities, it's like people will say that Taylor Swift and Selena Gomez say, we're going to sit next to each other. TV Choice Awards. Either put them next to each other or just accept that they will simply do it and you're not going to go and say to those two, hi, you're not important enough.

13:06You have to, you know, so they can do it. But you can make representations, but in general, there's a lot of reasons for eyelines and whatever. And everyone who's probably worked, you know, worked a bit in the film industry understands that. Let's have a quick break and then we want to move on to more. We've only done one question. That's because we talked about cool for so long. We'll do a whole load of questions in the second half.

13:29Welcome back, everybody. Now, by the way, we get so many emails a week to this portion of the show. Email address is the rest is entertainment at gmail.com. But this one is actually slightly dated, but I think it's interesting because I think product placement is always really interesting. Poppy Hooper said she'd watched the Gavin and Stacey Christmas special and they're curious whether Samsung had some product placement in there. Everyone had Samsung phones. Rob Brydon's character had a very stage line about how good his Samsung phone is. is I thought product placement was allowed on the BBC so are there loopholes around this or was it not paid for at all the reason I thought was a fun question to answer is it's not about that at all on BBC it's almost impossible to have product placement but James and Ruth are both like I try and do you write about brands all the time because it's funny and you try and you think about characters in terms of what brands they might use and so that I think it's just one of those things where probably in another show they wouldn't have got away with it because Gavin and Stacey is so huge that you can slightly do what you want but they're incredibly tough on product placement on the BBC, they would say you have to have some because otherwise no one in EastEnders is driving a car.

14:30But you have to make sure it's different ones. But the reason I wanted to answer this is because of something which I became aware of recently, which I think is really, really interesting. It might be a spoiler for people, but the Apple, whenever they provide phones and things like that for television shows, they have a no villains clause. So if you're watching a whodunit and you're not sure whodunit if someone is using an apple phone or an apple laptop then they did not do it if someone is using a non-branded phone or phone that isn't apple then they probably did and so i just thought that was a uh one of those bits of product placement things which actually provide spoilers to television programs but they have they have a no villains clause that is brilliant i didn't know that i love that but it means that rob Brydon with his Samsung if he turns up in a murder mystery then he probably did it.

15:20Marina Laura Herbert asks if you could retire one overused trope or cliche in movies and or stories what would it be and why? Okay I knew this was coming and I genuinely believe this could be an entire separate always on podcast and I'm very sorry a lot of what follows may be controversial. Well why don't we we never ever do two-part answers but we could do two-part answers if If there's... Okay, here's things that are currently and relatively recently annoying me. Saintly dead wives, a character having a saintly dead wife, any form of rape to make you care about the character because you can't be bothered to make me care about this character.

15:56So you just visit terrible sexual violence on them and then it's like, oh, I guess this feels really important and I have to care. But that feels very wrong. You know my feelings about they've got a podcast counting as a B-plot. No. That's such a big deal. I think we talked before about why is an amateur person investigating a murder and if they've got a podcast that's why they're investigating yeah it's yeah there's a there is a lot of it six months earlier coming on the screen that and i've actually written something once it was very difficult around there was no really other way to get around the fact that you had to show that there were stakes to this thing but i don't like that kisses being interrupted and then it's like well they're not really together by the way if you've come that close to kissing then there's a thing happening between oh you mean you mean because of people getting close to kissing and then and then some events intervene and you're like okay nothing happened it did happen okay you nearly could do that's rubbish okay all the bathos and irony and that particular way of doing it like cheeky one-liners after sudden things which was sort of brilliant and die hard but it's now that absolute reductio ad absurdum in marvel things that I can't stand it drone shots are starting to piss me off oh really drone shots are pissing me off I could it's particularly the downward vertical going over like a pine forest or something can someone please divert this can we have a cat stuck up one of the pine trees like hang on what's that move back every Netflix documentary that starts here with a pine forest and one of those big water towers with the name of the town yeah But the thing I like about drone shots is they've made cheaper TV look much better.

17:16That's what they are. They make it look much more expensive. You know, you look at that amazing Mortimer and White House go fishing, and the drone shots just make that, they add so much to it. Yes, I agree. Given you can't afford a helicopter. You used to see lens flares too much, you know, and that very, very focused center of frame when the outside's all blurry. It's like an animal. Maybe they're using an anamorphic wide angle. This is such a piece of Netflix house style at the moment. I really just, it manages to look both cheap and like really tiresome. I don't know what you're referring to there.

17:44Tires and Lee Polis. Okay. Yes. That's annoying. Like when you're, like an animal is looking at something. No, no. It's very, no. It's very, very focused in the center of the frame and all the outside is blurry and it's a particular way of doing it. And it just looks so, it's so part of our house style now. They do it in so many things and I just don't like it. Never noticed it. Okay. AI being the villain. Pointless one shots. The director's got to do a really long one shot. Pointless the quiz. not the quiz sadly i'd love you to do that in one shot um we haven't tried to do a live episode but those one is where you're and you become so aware that it's like a dick waving move by the director that i'm thinking have they cut yet no they've not cut then okay they're not cutting oh i see oh oh right i get it they're doing a wanna they're doing a wanna they're doing a wanna wow they must be they must be a really cool guy superheroes not really dying we're just being able to be bought you know like no stakes stuff multiverses they can do one yeah uh kitchen islands.

18:37I don't know why they're starting to annoy me a lot. Kitchen islands. We went to someone's house recently and they had two kitchen islands. Shut up. Can you believe that? It was in LA, so I guess it's the norm. In the same kitchen? In the same kitchen. Yeah, I call them St. Kitts and Nevis. I love that so much. Two in the same, they were renting a place in LA and it had two kitchen islands. Exactly. What do you think about that? So I said to Megan, that's a lot. Yeah, that's a hell of a lot. That's a lot of islands, Megan. And Harry said, I've got more islands than that mate the kitchen archipelago yeah um okay passwords being something you can work out if you look around the room or know one thing about the person this is so ridiculous okay this is so ridiculous i always think when you're downloading something and it says loading in really big letters it tells you exactly what's happening on screen in a way that your computer doesn't say yeah well i'll tell you what that's the prime example of that which is another thing that pisses me off is timers that someone's bothered to have helpfully fit a digital display show there's no need.

19:35What were you doing this for? For the person that diffuses it, telling them how long they've got? That's true. It's absolutely totally unnecessary to put a clock on a bomb. Unless you're standing around with it, in which case you presumably know when it's going to go off. It's not an oven. And if it was an oven, it would be like an hour off because you wouldn't have changed it from daylight savings. But sometimes you need a clock in a bomb. Sometimes that's the mechanism. So I would say that's where they get that from. Is it 1961? You don't need one, I have to say, in the year 2025. You don't actually need a clock in a bomb.

20:03Oh, you know a lot about bombs. Yeah, I mean, I know that much. I look at the technology. I mean, you know, I can see. Where are you looking at the technology? In news stories, wherever it's being exercised against people. And you look at the thing and goes, was there a clock involved? They don't normally mention if there was a clock involved or not. They're like two bottles of peroxide they've bought off the internet. You can see what's involved. But I'll say this, which is sometimes we copy what we see on television. So perhaps bomb makers are thinking, do you know what? this is missing a digital clock.

20:36Speaking of which, villains that you don't know what they want or why. And by the way, world domination is not a reason. There has to be something more than that. I didn't mind this at first, but like modern music, like hip hop in historical dramas or whatever, that's starting to annoy me. At the first, it seemed like, you know, they're cool. They're just like our era. That can be quite annoying. Also like Miami-based hip hop on all property shows, like selling sunsets, selling everything, but it's all some sort of, yeah, sort of sub pitbull. The genre most likely to make you care about kitchen archipelagos.

21:10Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Oh, actually speaking from bomb clocks, I just, bomb clocks, 60 seconds taking longer in the time of you watching it than the 60 seconds on the screen. That's annoying. That's been going forever, by the way. That's not a new thing. When someone goes underwater on a television program, do you hold your breath? I love that question. I don't know. I bet you do. Yeah, of course. Because then you really understand the jeopardy. Oh, man, this is really... Because if I'm struggling with my lung capacity, then this person's panicking. I love that. You know I'm doing that forever now.

21:46Okay, fine. Same as when you go under a bridge, right? You've got to hold your breath. Go through a tunnel. Do you? Yeah, do you not? No. Wow, you're a monster. I'm just going to be doing this forever now. Yeah, the second you go under, you hold a breath. And then you... Yeah. I mean if you're ever in a traffic jam under a tunnel that's how I'm going to go eventually what happened to him? I don't know all I know is he was in a tunnel there was a traffic jam he was blue and we don't know what honestly we don't know what happened yeah and he was watching Skyfall on his phone as well he was watching the opening of that okay being able to be shot and be essentially fine no consequence major injury ultra violence that you can still like run a marathon practically afterwards I don't mind that Because I like it when Reacher is injured and he's still okay.

22:32But he's not like us. No, he's not like us. When it's people, ordinary people, relatively ordinary. It's Reacher. I just feel that he can rebuild in front of me. Of course. Exposition dialogue. Honestly, I'm seeing this more and more. I saw some written by a very good TV writer recently. And I just thought, I can't. Will that be in the reviews? Because I'm stunned that you can't just. You've dealt with about five minutes of on-screen action to make me care about why I care about this. by simply saying, this is important because. I almost know what the words were. It's important that people care about this because.

23:04Yeah, first episodes of things particularly have that. And I think it's got worse. And I think that must be notes. Because writers usually, you can hide your exposition. One of the key things in writing any TV or any books at all is you have to get information across, but it cannot come across in the form of information. It has to come across. You're doing something else and it comes across. And I think the Netflixes and Amazon Primes of this world want you to spell it out a little bit more. Yes. So I think we've seen more of it. I'm starting to feel that the eat the rich genre needs a little bit of refreshing, slightly.

23:37And my... Obviously, I said this could be a whole separate podcast. I'll do my last one. This is the thing that probably annoys me more than anything. Any form of stupid misunderstanding that could simply be cleared up by people talking about it, and yet it's allowed to continue and drive the plot for a third, a half, the whole episode, is so ridiculous. and it's just not how life works and it always takes me out of it because you think you would just ask one more follow-up question or something. No, I've got to go. I have to go. No, but the thing I've got to say is actually really important. It's so stupid.

24:06No, I've got to go. Sorry, talk to you later. Just shout it after them. Yeah. There's a bomb under your car. Ring back, text them. Yeah. I mean, this is so stupid and there's all sorts of different varieties of that but anything that could be sorted out by people talking in the way that people talk all the time to me becomes like oh, I'm just watching some sort of coincidence, coincidence thing and I can't. You see in police procedurals an awful lot, which is they're aware of the five things that are the pieces of evidence that are going to convict the person, but you have to drip feed them across.

24:36And for example, the second the fingerprints come through, we know that that's going to be the thing. So they just go, oh yeah, no, still haven't come through. You think, come on, really? They haven't come through and said, we'll move on to something else. You go, but yeah, but we're just waiting for that. When that comes through, or goes, yeah, Garth, can I just tell you something about this? He goes, sorry, I can't. I'm in a meeting. You go, no, you're a police officer he's literally just said he's looking through the cctv he's spotted something you're not going to go into a meeting with the chief constable even if you know your ass is on the line you are going to go oh what is it john they go oh just because i've seen the car that you know we were talked about and it's here which means he did he did the murder you know he has to go yeah later yeah come on no yeah anyone who says you can't report a missing person for 48 hours that might be very helpful to the plot of your television series but if you think that in this country if your daughter's gone missing they'll say come back in 48 hours and tell us your daughter's gone missing no they're not going to say that and in fact the sort of golden hour of when you can find people is really quite quite near the start so they're not going to make you wait for 48 hours but it might be helpful if you have to do it if you have to go and just track down this thing yourself a fun thing to look out for is how long forensics takes in different shows and i tell you should i tell you how long it takes it takes exactly how long is most helpful to the script so often they go oh actually we need this fingerprint thing now you go i've asked them to rush this through boss and they go why have they got that they got that through pretty quickly or they go listen they're absolutely snowed under there they said it could be 72 hours and it's like they take it it takes how long it takes but you know exactly how you just go okay that's going to be important but it's going to be important in episode four but and this bit of information we need now so forensics is that beautiful piece of elastic for any uh crime writer it can take as long or as short as you want and everyone goes oh i can't believe they're absolutely snowed under or wow it's amazing they got that through in 35 minutes yeah we got the phone records through you got the phone records through because on the last series it took you like two weeks to get the phone records through you seem to have got it through in 45 minutes this time that I don't mind because listen give us a break you've got to have something Laura thank you so much for that question we'll always remember it as Laura's question and we'll go back every now and again and say should we do a Laura Herbert topical this one from Pete Chow who writes the script for celebs reading the nominees at award ceremonies and why is it always so dreadful?