'Talladega Nights' With Craig Horlbeck, Danny Heifetz, and Danny Kelly

8 Sep 2026 · 2 h 8 min · 52 chapters

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In short

The Rewatchables episode discusses Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Bobby (2006), focusing on why it’s still funny, Will Ferrell’s influence as a 21st-century comedy star, the Ferrell/Adam McKay creative partnership, and a “most rewatchable” rundown of iconic scenes and quotes (including the dinner scene, hospital knife scene, Amy Adams’ speech, and the final footrace).

Guests (backgrounds)

Craig Horlbeck, Danny Heifetz, and Danny Kelly are the hosts of The Rewatchables. The transcript doesn’t provide their professional bios beyond their roles as co-hosts and their personal perspectives on the film.

Key claims

  • Talladega Nights is described as Ferrell’s defining comedy and a “no skips” movie with no meaningful drop-off.
  • Ferrell and McKay pitched the film without a script—Will Ferrell as a NASCAR driver—and Sony immediately greenlit it.
  • Ferrell’s sports-movie physicality and athletic movement are presented as a major comedic advantage.
  • The supporting cast is called “phenomenal,” with multiple later awards.
  • Ferrell’s later career is framed as having fewer “unassailable” ideas, making this era feel unmatched.

Notable examples

Eleanor Roosevelt quote title card; “I Piss Excellence” montage; “praying to dear Lord, baby Jesus” dinner scene; “don’t you stick that knife in your leg” hospital scene; Amy Adams’ “speed and chaos… ride it” speech; “Now you see me” magic-man moment; final footrace to the finish line; fake commercials/bloopers (e.g., Jackhawk 9,000, Big Red, Fig Newtons).

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Introduction to Talladega Nights

1:27 to 2:25

Discussion of the film's release and impact in 2006.

“Angry Orchard is a hard cider with other natural flavors.”

Personal Experiences with Talladega Nights

2:25 to 3:56

Hosts share their experiences and memories related to the film.

“And where did it kind of fall in the Will Ferrell ranking at the time?”

Comedy Elements and Quotes

3:56 to 5:48

Discussion on the quotability and pacing of the film.

“I was shocked at how quotable it was going back and re-watching it.”

McKay and Ferrell's Collaboration

5:48 to 7:35

Exploring the history of Will Ferrell and Adam McKay's partnership.

“When they pitched this movie, it's funny.”

Will Ferrell's Influence on Comedy

7:35 to 9:26

Analysis of Will Ferrell's impact and status in modern comedy.

“And the two of them, you know, they were hired at SNL on the exact same day.”

Physicality in Comedy

9:26 to 11:40

Discussion of physicality and its importance in comedy performance.

“Yeah, I always felt like Seth Rogen himself was not like the Will Ferrell style draw.”

Future Directions for Ferrell

11:40 to 14:00

Speculation on Will Ferrell's upcoming projects and comedic directions.

“I do think athleticism and like frame, body control is like one of the more underrated parts of being good at comedy.”

Will Ferrell's Comedy Legacy

14:00 to 19:30

Explore Will Ferrell's iconic roles and the evolution of his comedy career.

“Like, I mean, what would be, like, the next sport that you'd want to see him do that's even, like, more ridiculous than this?”

The Challenges of Sustaining Comedy

19:30 to 28:02

Discuss the difficulties of maintaining comedic quality over time and the impact on leading actors.

“like never cared about taking his shirt off he was never super in shape didn't care would always like poke fun at it he's huge hairy super tall.”

Box Office Success of Talladega Nights

28:02 to 28:43

Learn about the financial performance and cultural impact of Talladega Nights.

“elite supporting cast again no misses across the board Jack McBrayer, David Koechner everyone in it's great the movie made $163 million on a$72 million budget.”
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Box Office Success of Talladega Nights

28:46 to 29:48

Learn about the financial performance and cultural impact of Talladega Nights.

“things that actors did to prepare for a role.”

Most Rewatchable Scenes Discussion

31:00 to 34:28

A detailed discussion on the most iconic scenes in Talladega Nights.

“and then you pick your favorite one at the end.”

Ricky Bobby's Character Analysis

34:28 to 39:55

An exploration of Ricky Bobby's character and memorable quotes from the film.

“Yeah, I mean, think about Watch the Throne literally starts by clipping Blades of Glory.”

Key Moments and Themes

39:55 to 42:00

Discussing the key moments and themes that define Talladega Nights.

“And he's like, when you have the stereo turned on and the TV, how do you handle the volume?”

Amy Adams' Motivational Speech

42:00 to 42:55

Discussing the impactful motivational speech by Amy Adams in the film.

“hairy on your peaches or what i love real simple son gary cole is great uh okay we have that we You have the Amy Adams speech.”

Amy Adams' Career Context

42:55 to 43:45

Exploring Amy Adams' early career and her role in Talladega Nights.

“Susan, I've never heard you talk like this.”

Memorable Scenes and Quotes

43:45 to 45:40

A lively discussion on standout scenes and quotes from the movie.

“just see her glasses and a ponytail for the entire time.”

Commercials and Fake Ads in the Film

45:40 to 49:23

Analyzing the effect and humor of fake commercials in Talladega Nights.

“they're just kind of playing and they're cutting between.”

Enduring Quotes from Talladega Nights

49:47 to 51:44

A discussion on the most culturally impactful quotes from the film.

“I want to do just like, what is the quote or moment or joke or anything that has culturally lasted the best?”

What is Most 2006 About the Film?

51:44 to 54:24

Identifying elements that define the movie's era and cultural references.

“The other one is just at the end, something I totally forgot about is the son who takes over the team is like really trying to get Halliburton to sponsor the car.”

Aging of the Film's Scenes

54:24 to 56:00

Discussing which scenes and elements have aged well since the film's release.

“So the Floyd Gundoli buttered my ass and the lollipops in my mouth award for something I just enjoy.”

Driving a Stick and Movie Techniques

56:00 to 57:05

Discussing the use of real sports announcers and the authenticity in 'Talladega Nights'.

“Oh, and this is something that I've just noticed about a lot of movies, sports movies from that era and from other eras.”

What's Aged the Best in 'Talladega Nights'

57:05 to 59:40

Exploring the standout performances and memorable quotes from 'Talladega Nights'.

“And then, yeah, like her performance as a trophy wife, just like that.”

Best Character Names and Awards

59:40 to 1:02:38

Debating the best character names and the unique awards from the film.

“I will say, Brian Johnson's just trying to do this now.”

NASCAR Events and Movie Names

1:02:38 to 1:07:24

Discussing NASCAR events and the naming of the film 'Talladega Nights'.

“I mean, the biggest sporting event in America is the Indy 500.”

Accent Critiques and Performance

1:07:24 to 1:10:01

Critiquing Sacha Baron Cohen's performance and accent in 'Talladega Nights'.

“Talladega Nights, I mean, this is maybe an obvious question.”

Discussion on Sacha Baron Cohen's Performance

1:10:01 to 1:18:41

Analyzing Sacha Baron Cohen's accent and comedic delivery in 'Talladega Nights'.

“It was like, it felt like he was, his whole mouth was numbed with Novocaine.”

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1:18:41 to 1:19:43

Information about Tremphaya for Crohn's disease and ulcerative colitis.

“For adults with Crohn's disease or ulcerative colitis symptoms, every choice matters.”

Hottest Takes on NASCAR and Comedic Value

1:19:43 to 1:23:39

Discussing the appeal of NASCAR and comparing the comedy of 'Talladega Nights' to other films.

“Some maglutide injection 2.4 milligrams, a GLP-1.”

High Budget vs. Low Budget Comedy

1:23:39 to 1:24:00

Debating the impact of production budgets on the effectiveness of comedy films.

“While watching this movie, did you ever get the impression, I kind of felt this a little bit, that it felt like it was too high budget.”

The Impact of Production Quality on Comedy

1:24:00 to 1:25:15

Explore how the budget and production quality affect the humor in films.

“I did kind of have the thought when I was watching it, I was like, this feels like too Hollywood.”

Nostalgia for Earlier Film Aesthetics

1:25:15 to 1:26:16

Discuss the preference for movies from the 90s and early 2000s over modern films.

“I think that the spaceship in the beginning of Star Wars and in Space Odyssey looks better now than the spaceship at the beginning of like Avengers.”

Casting What Ifs: Talladega Nights

1:26:16 to 1:27:42

Delve into alternate casting choices for key roles in Talladega Nights.

“For Cal Naughton, it was not supposed to be John C.”

Character Analysis: Reese Bobby

1:27:42 to 1:30:04

Examine the potential for a spin-off film centered around Reese Bobby's character.

“I understand why that was being considered.”

The Dion Waiters Award Discussion

1:30:04 to 1:33:06

Evaluate the performances that qualify for the Dion Waiters Award in Talladega Nights.

“This will be interesting because typically I have differing opinions than the host of the show.”

Half-Assed Internet Research Insights

1:33:06 to 1:37:42

Share interesting trivia and behind-the-scenes facts about Talladega Nights.

“I forgot until prepping for the show that he comes, like Reese, it's weird.”

Product Placement in Film

1:38:00 to 1:38:56

Explore the extent of product placement in 'Talladega Nights'.

“everywhere and they're not paying a dollar for that yeah alright that shocks me alright so stepping on it on that.”

Behind the Scenes of Filming

1:38:56 to 1:40:08

Discover insights into the challenges faced during the filming of race scenes.

“His name is Roy Lee Ferrell which is a great name.”

Memorable Lines and Performances

1:40:08 to 1:41:54

Discuss favorite lines and performances in the film, especially Jane Lynch's.

“And Adam McKay is like, we have two hours and 53 minutes left here.”

The Cultural Impact of Will Ferrell

1:41:54 to 1:43:54

Analyze Will Ferrell's status in comedy before and after 'Talladega Nights'.

“Yeah, I mean, another mini hot take is sometimes I like watching the bloopers just as much as I do.”

NASCAR's Rise and Decline

1:43:54 to 1:46:58

Examine the peak of NASCAR and its representation in film during the mid-2000s.

“It's hard to say exactly whether it's like this Stepbrothers or Elf.”

Product References in the Film

1:46:58 to 1:48:42

Discuss how products like Shake and Bake gained popularity after the movie.

“Yeah, but like that was, it was very real because NASCAR was very, it was kind of a risk for them to allow this.”

Plot Holes and Character Motivations

1:48:42 to 1:51:47

Delve into inconsistencies in the film regarding character wealth and actions.

“Two years later, he's in for getting Sarah Marshall, and 30 Rock's still going.”

Nitpicking Talladega Nights

1:52:00 to 1:54:00

The hosts discuss minor plot issues and character developments in the film.

“Maybe he trapped it in a, somewhere else.”

Sequels and Spin-offs Discussion

1:54:00 to 1:56:00

Exploration of potential sequels or spin-offs for Talladega Nights and their viability.

“where Ricky Bobby goes to Europe to do Formula One.”

Character Relationships in Talladega Nights

1:56:00 to 1:57:50

Analysis of the relationships between key characters in the movie.

“So I admittedly, I'm not Chris Ryan with the impressions and I'm not Sean Fennessey with the Oscars, but I had to ask you a question.”

Unanswerable Questions About the Movie

1:57:50 to 2:00:40

The hosts pose and debate humorous unanswerable questions related to the film's plot.

“oh that's true Ricky has Susan yeah did you now I wish I was there for that I wish I would've been there for that That's like an insight.”

Favorite Movie Memorabilia

2:00:40 to 2:02:10

Discussion about the memorabilia the hosts would want from the movie.

“engage my uh unanswerable questions I have how many people do you think have been conceived in a wrestler steakhouse bathroom okay Probably hundreds.”

Life Lessons from Talladega Nights

2:02:10 to 2:04:30

Exploration of the conflicting life lessons presented in the movie.

“You just want a six pack of the malt liquor.”

Final Thoughts and Best Double Features

2:04:30 to 2:06:01

The hosts share their final thoughts on the movie and suggest double features.

“Because those seats I imagine were fantastic.”

The Future of Comedy

2:06:01 to 2:08:23

Exploration of upcoming trends in comedy and potential hits.

“We need like an obsession style comedy hit where it's like some movie made for five million bucks pops off.”

The Future of Comedy

2:08:29 to 2:08:51

Exploration of upcoming trends in comedy and potential hits.

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0:05The Rewatchables is brought to you by the Ringer Podcast Network, where you can find the Ringer Fantasy Football Show with us three. I'm Craig Horlbeck. I'm here with Danny Heifetz and Danny Kelly. He's got two first names. Oh, I knew that was coming. Anyway, Talladega Nights, The Ballad of Ricky Bobby is next.

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1:51All right, guys. 2006. This movie came out August 4th, 20 years ago. Directed by Adam McKay. Written by Will Ferrell and Adam McKay. Starring Will Ferrell. Produced by Judd Apatow. Made a bunch of money. Everybody loved it. What a time to be alive. Goddamn. Take me back. America really did used to be built on hot, badass, nasty speed. You know what I mean? And we're not anymore. Eleanor knew what she was talking about. So Eleanor knew what she was talking about. I guess we can start here. When this movie came out, did you see it in theaters? How old are you? And where did it kind of fall in the Will Ferrell ranking at the time?

2:31And now? I was 26. So I feel like I got to experience this the most. Because it was, sorry, not 26. I was 24 in 2006. Just I'd graduated college. And yeah, it was awesome. I feel like in that era, it was just every year or even like a couple times a year, they were coming out with these get your butt to the freaking theaters and watch this because it's going to be the best thing you've ever seen type movies every year. I'd say this is like that near near the height of Will Ferrell's powers, maybe not at the absolute height. It was right there. But yes, I remember just being so excited to go to the theater, see these movies.

3:09it felt like every movie was simultaneously more ridiculous and had longer titles like the subtitles of these movies are always just crazy. The Ballad of Ricky Bobby yeah I think Step Brothers was going to have the title something about the Catalina wine mixer was going to be in it and they decided to pull it the funny thing about these types of movies I feel like is you and I were like 12 like I didn't see this in theaters I'm assuming you didn't either or did you?

3:35Danny Heifetz:I think I did see it in theaters but I was not allowed to see Anchorman in theaters. So I saw this movie before Anchorman because I think there's a big difference between being 9 and being 12 or 13 or whatever for a Will Ferrell movie. This is the defining comedy of my childhood. This is number one? This is the number one. I don't know if it's the best comedy made in the 21st century, but it's my favorite. And probably it's the one I've seen the most. It's funny. I was shocked at how quotable it was going back and re-watching it. I've seen this movie 20, 30 times. Because I didn't see this in a theater, but it was just a movie that was on all the time.

4:06It had the DVD. and you can just throw it on whenever. Every scene in this movie is funny. Like, I think there are some comedies where it dips, and there's like 20 minutes where it's like, oh, they're building the character, or there's an arc coming, or there's the action scene at the end of the movie. Literally every scene of this movie is funny and has iconic quotes. It's pretty remarkable.

4:26Danny Heifetz:The pace is unbelievable in this movie. They literally just are like, all right. You always talk about this, like, make movies shorter, but there's no filler. There's no backstory. they just are like kid weird dad he's a NASCAR he's a driver and he has everything and it just absolutely rips and then I was also amazed how many of the funny stuff is like the first 50 minutes and also the back nine is way funnier than I even remember and that's like the hardest thing to do in a comedy usually the last third is the least funny I don't really feel like this movie drops off a whole lot not like pancakes it's not what do you mean not like all exciting at first but by the end you're fucking sick of them I will note like so Heifetz you said this is your favorite Will Ferrell movie It is my favorite Will Ferrell movie.

5:06Would you say that for you, Craig?

5:09Danny Heifetz:It's really hard. I know Anchorman and Step Brothers are probably more beloved and more quoted overall. But when I think of comedies, I think of Will Ferrell. But when I think of Will Ferrell, I think of Talladega Nights. Yeah, I think when this movie came out, I think it's grown more now. I don't know if people, when you ask them, name the best Will Ferrell comedy. I don't know how many people say Talladega Nights. I think they would say Anchorman or Step Brothers. Or maybe Old School. even though he's like not the technical lead. But I would probably say it's Anchorman or Step Brothers. But I agree with you.

5:40This movie sticks with you. It's aged beautifully. Like all of the jokes still play. The acting is great. The supporting cast is phenomenal. Oh my God, yeah. Like the awards that all of the supporting cast has won over the years is like crazy. When they pitched this movie, it's funny. There used to be a category on the rewatchables, a flex category that's not there anymore, called what is the five word pitch of this movie? McKay and Farrell actually did pitch this movie without a script on six words. The pitch was Will Ferrell as a NASCAR driver. And Sony was like, we're in. Sign up. Sold. Cut the check.

6:11This is from Ferrell's agent. There was a great piece in The Ringer written by Jake Kring's Shrifles about an oral history of kind of like Will Ferrell as a sports movie icon and Talladega Nights. And from Will's agent, he said, there was no movie, there was no script, there was nothing. And Sony greenlit the movie. I don't know if anyone's ever done that in history. Yeah. Is there like a ringer pod equivalent of that? It's like Chris Ryan smoking cigarettes ranking movie bars. And you're like, fuck, I'm in. What pitch would it have to be? Let's talk about Farrell and McKay, who kind of one of the all-time comedy duos.

6:51Yeah. Who I think in my head made more movies together than I thought, but it's really only four? I also was surprised going back. I want to sit eight or ten. So it's what? Anchorman? It's Anchorman 1 and 2. So if you combine those, it's the Anchorman franchise. It's Talladega, Step Brothers, and the other guys. Those are the only movies that McKay directed that Farrell acted in. McKay also did the story for The Campaign and Get Hard, which starred Will Ferrell, which are two movies I have not seen, actually. I think I've seen Get Hard. I forgot The Campaign. Get Hard is Kevin Hart and The Campaign is with Zach Galifianakis, right?

7:27I've never seen The Campaign, actually, I don't think. It's like a political satire. but McKay didn't direct those. So it's really only four movies. It's Anchorman, Talladega, Step Brothers, and the other guys. And the two of them, you know, they were hired at SNL on the exact same day. They became great friends. They started Funny or Die which I don't know if you're, one of the first videos I remember seeing growing up was the Pearl video. The landlord? Yeah, the landlord. She's so mean. Which was McKay's daughter. Right. Oh, really? Yes. Oh my God. Which was like one of the funniest, that was like the very beginning.

7:57You need to settle down. The primordial ooze of internet videos.

7:59Danny Heifetz:The Funny or Die one I always remember is the Batman one. For Batman. It's sleepy time. Oh, yeah. Pete Holmes. And in a word that would surprise you. Ass mouth edge. And they started Gary Sanchez, their production company. So, yeah, I don't know. They split up in the late 2010s, which is a lot of interesting history about why they split up. It's been written about that. It was basically McKay wrote and created Winning Time, the show about Jerry Buss, Lakers. And Farrell wanted to play Buss. and McKay didn't want Farrell and picked John C. Reilly. Oh. Oh, shit. Yeah, which is crazy. And McKay has spoken about this in interviews and is like, yeah, I didn't tell Will.

8:42I should have. And I kind of like fucked up the whole thing. And I get it. And I get why he's upset. And I get why he's upset. That's pretty crazy. Did they ever make up? I mean, I don't think they've really worked together. Again, maybe they've been like producers on things, but I don't really think so.

8:56Danny Heifetz:Why would you not want Will Farrell is Jerry Buss. He's basically Ron Burgundy, but just older and wealthier. Also, like, so many more people would have watched that if Will Ferrell was playing Jerry Buss. Yeah. You know? Yeah. So, yeah, it never ends well. You know, you always, you have like a 10, 15 year stretch and then it's hard to keep these things going. In general, with comedy, I feel like we can talk about Will Ferrell now. I think he's the most influential comedy figure of the 21st century. Probably not a hot take. I think he's also the last great American comedy star, probably comedy movie star i mean that's kind of what i was saying before is like if he's in a movie i'm going to it that's why they were able to sell this movie without like with no script or whatever yes for basically like 10 12 years it was like whatever will ferrell's doing i'm in um yes because since since he kind of entered a different part of his career no one's really taken the mantle it was like melissa mccarthy in the 2010s i think had a couple big movies obviously Bridesmaids and like Spy and Heat.

9:56What about Seth Rogen? Yeah, I always felt like Seth Rogen himself was not like the Will Ferrell style draw. It was more about like the ensemble, the concept, like the Apatow gang is what brought you in. When I was like 14, it was like, I want to go see Will Ferrell. He can do any character. Rogen is not really doing characters like Will Ferrell. Shameless pandering to you hosting this episode.

10:20Danny Heifetz:Okay. But Will Ferrell actually to me is like the Steph Curry of comedy in that he somehow has the highest three-point percentage, even though he's also taking the most threes. Like, he just made a lot of movies. And you're right. And there's like a way of like, same way actually the Steph Curry misses, you kind of just forget about. Like, we literally forgot about the campaign and Get Hard. All those kind of get like, like he doesn't get punished for it, but it's kind of like the way his style is just actually making jokes, where it's just so many jokes that you end up with like gems. But that was kind of the style.

10:48Danny Heifetz:He was just cranking out movies. I don't know who, like right now, you could say Tim Robinson's trying. I think he's really funny and I think he's kind of even trying to do the same character style of like the cocky idiot, the underqualified, overconfident guy. Right, right. You know? But his style is just more niche. Yeah. He also just doesn't have the commanding presence. Do you think this is maybe just like too simple, but Will Ferrell is huge. Yeah. He's like a big man. And also, I think he's like, you can tell he played sports. The way he moved, like he can pull off an athlete. He did so many sports movies.

11:23He can pull off an athlete, even though he's obviously not super athletic anymore. He can move like it, like he's done it before kind of deal. And I don't know if anyone had sort of the actual physical gravitas that he had. Maybe Vince Vaughn, who was, I think, one of like maybe one of his rivals in terms of like biggest comedy stars of that era. Ben Stiller was quite a bit smaller. But it still had a physicality to him. Yeah, he did. I do think athleticism and like frame, body control is like one of the more underrated parts of being good at comedy. Yeah. You go, like you look at guys like Belushi and Candy and all these guys who you look at them and you wouldn't think anything of them but they're also, they're like secretly very athletic and coordinated dudes.

12:05Danny Heifetz:Even the big guys have the like the Trent Williams athleticism where it's like you wouldn't know what their shuttle time is. Great footwork and it matters. Even Jim Carrey, like they all know how to move their body because comedy is half physical. Dude, I was reading about Will Ferrell was like closely connected to USC during the P. Carroll era. Yeah. And he like went to one of their practices one time and put on, you know, like full pads and helmet and everything was like running routes. They're like, who the fuck is this guy? And then he took off his helmet and was like, oh my God, it's Will Ferrell.

12:32Danny Heifetz:That's the other thing about Will Ferrell is like, the ubiquity is, it's almost hard to explain now how much, he was always putting out a movie, but he was always doing weird stuff. Like he was an usher at a Lakers game. He was doing stuff like that. I forgot till I read that Jake article in The Ringer that he did the, I want to play nine, positions in a baseball game or 10, I guess, technically. Oh, right. And then I was like, I forgot that he went to 10 or five different teams to play because he was like only going to do two positions, but he's always doing some kind of viral stunt. Yeah. So he was just always around doing stuff.

13:01And it never feels forced with him. Like it's all love of the game stuff. There's, you know, there's kind of like the Bill Murray lore. It's like Bill Murray showed up at my dinner party and blah, blah, blah. Farrell's the same way, but it doesn't feel performative. He truly just does it because he thinks it's funny. He'll just show up and like do that. yeah, the Lakers game where he dresses as a security guard, but he's like not trying to go viral. I feel like he just loves jokes. Yeah, it's a good bit. Yeah. You talk about Will Ferrell playing sports though. He might be the comedy sports star ever.

13:31I mean, he rattles off kicking and screaming Talladega Knights, Blades of Glory, and Semi-Pro in four years. And it's kind of like after Die Hard, when they just started ripping off Die Hards and it was like Die Hard on a boat under siege. It was kind of like Will Ferrell plays. Will Ferrell plays sports? Yeah, totally. And you could just get away with that for five years? I mean, after they did NASCAR, which, you know, is, they were, like, trying to be careful not to be making fun of it, but NASCAR is very, like, has a spot in American culture. And then they're like, how can we top that? So we're going to do figure skating.

14:04Like, I mean, what would be, like, the next sport that you'd want to see him do that's even, like, more ridiculous than this? I was looking at his IMDb and his upcoming projects. It says, and this was part of the interview on the Ringer piece, that they've like bounced around. They've basically gone through every sport and they're like, what would be the funniest? Yeah. It says he has an upcoming e-sports comedy in the works. Okay. But then the logline is like exactly what you think. It's like...

14:27Danny Heifetz:Will Ferrell plays video games? It's like washed up. Former athlete thinks he can get back into the game with e-sports. It's like every other story. Yeah. But sure, I'm in. I mean... Well, he's doing golf right now. He's doing the Hawk on Netflix. I do want to read... I just want to read Farrell's run from 01 to 2010. And just how unassailable and ridiculous it is. And we'll probably never see this again in comedy. This is what he does. Some of these are supporting roles and some of these are lead, but still it's worth mentioning all of them. From 2001 to 2010, he goes, Zoolander, Old School, Elf, Anchorman, Starsky and Hutch, Kicking and Screaming, Wedding Crashers, Talladega Nights, Blades of Glory, Semi-Pro, Stepbrothers, and the other guys.

15:12Danny Heifetz:All of those are actually incredible and still funny. I would say five of those are among the most iconic comedies ever made, at least for the 21st century or people in our generation. I think what's craziest about that list is the fifth funniest movie on that list is probably The Other Guys, which has some of the best jokes I've ever seen in any movie ever. Super underrated. It has to be the most underrated Feral movie. I don't know if people were just getting sick of it by then, but that movie, I just watched it the other week on a plane. It was amazing. And the movies that you mentioned that he is a minor character or sort of like an extended cameo.

15:43He is arguably the funniest person in that movie and some of those movies, like the Mugatu and Zoolander. You could toss in Austin Powers too. He makes a brief. Yeah, and he's the guy who's like, I'm very badly burned. I'm glad you're here. Hold on. I'm very badly burned. I'm very badly burned. Yeah, that's the thing is not only can he lead a movie and dominate it, he's the Dion Waiters every time he shows up for 10 minutes. Like Chaz, what's his name in Wedding Crashers? Chaz.

16:08Danny Heifetz:Literally the most best part of Wedding Crashers he's the best part of Eastbound and Down. Yeah. When he's just, he's basically just showed up and wanted to make Danny McBride laugh. Ashley Schaefer. Let the boy watch. Let the boy. A swelter in a, a bluish hue. I said, no, let the boy watch. Ashley Schaefer. Also underrated, the names in all these movies, elite. I have it written down. They must have spent so much time. Farrelly McKay, and the whole Farrelly, they know how to name a fucking movie character, man. Like, all of these are just off the top of the head. You know it. Ricky Bobby, Ron Burgundy, Buddy the Elf, Frank the Tank, Chaz, Michael Michaels, you have Dale and Brennan, and Jackie Moon.

16:47Yeah.

16:47Danny Heifetz:I'm glad you brought that up because there's so many times where I neither know, I just never know the character's name and I just call them by the actor's name. Yes. And they somehow have Will Ferrell be really famous, but we call him Ricky Bobby. It's something, whenever we do rewatchables and I'm watching like Bill, Chris, and Sean, I'm always so impressed at how well they're able to remember the character's names and they can speak about them as the characters. I'm always like, oh yeah, when Gwyneth Paltrow does this. Yeah, yeah. But you don't have to do that with Will Ferrell movies. Frank the Tank.

17:13Yeah. Frank Ricard. It's perfect.

17:17Danny Heifetz:Blue. Just everything. Yeah, my boy, blue. Also, they just almost make yellable names. Ricky! Yeah. Brick. Brick. John C. Rowling was supposed to be Brick. His name's Brick. So I'm stepping on the categories. We'll get to that later. I do want to talk about, though, this always happens with a comedy. It's hard to sustain. Yeah. It just is. after The Other Guys in 2010, here are the next movies he did from 2010 to basically 2020. So he does Step Brothers in 08. He does The Other Guys in 2010. And then he goes on The Office in 2011. Remember that? He replaced Steve Crow, right? He replaced D 'Angelo Vickers.

17:55Totally forgot about that. Which I loved The Office. I never loved seeing Will Ferrell, though. I didn't really watch that era.

18:01Danny Heifetz:I liked Robert California more than most people. I didn't like it on The Office, to be honest. It was a classic. It's like every time they do it, when like Charlie Sheen leaves two and a half minutes like just end the show. But he does The Office in 2011. He was 44 years old. And then he does The Campaign. He does Anchorman 2, Get Hard, Daddy's Home, Zoolander 2, The House, Daddy's Home 2, and Holmes and Watson in 2018, which was officially, I remember when that came out and I was like, oh wow, Farrell and Riley are back. Yeah. It didn't work. And I remember thinking if they just didn't do British accents, the movie might have worked.

18:35That was my friend Chris's take and I was like, Did they do that the whole movie? It was a great take. I'm like, if they just didn't have the accents, it probably would have worked.

18:40Danny Heifetz:The list, you reading that list reminds me, I just saw an interview with like 50 Cent the other day where they're like, are you making new music? And he's like, no. I got a lot of money. He's like, I'm not able to make rap anymore. He's like, what am I going to talk about? Doing the laundry and like filing my taxes? It's just hard to keep going. I think, you know, it was around his mid 40s when it started to taper off and really when he got into his 50s. The list is very short of comedy movie stars in their 50s still crushing it. So he was 38 when he filmed this. I looked it up because I was like I can't actually figure out how old he was he's kind of ageless he plays like a 20 he plays like someone a little bit younger I think in the movie but he's always kind of doing that I never Farrell always just seems like 40 to me yes he has been eternally 40 he does have the Bill Murray thing where Bill Murray looked he looked old young 45 48 years old from 30 to 60 yes well also I always liked that Farrell like never cared about taking his shirt off he was never super in shape didn't care would always like poke fun at it he's huge hairy super tall.

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19:38He has that weird like crease in his belly. He just like doesn't give a shit. I don't know where that's coming from. Which is also a huge part of comedy just leaning into it. Ferrell's great just because I think he had the it at least felt as though he was comfortable with other people being funny with him in movies. He didn't need to overpower every movie. Yeah. He really surrounded himself with other people who were super funny. Like him having like a counterpart and most of the movies he did whether it's like John C. Reilly or you know like the crew in Anchorman. And I kind of respect that.

20:07Like you said, Steph. It's like Steph was okay with having Clay. And I think Will was fine with being able to play off other people.

20:14Danny Heifetz:He needs Clay. Like you need someone to actually reach that level. I mean, I think he needs a John C. Reilly. Totally. You can see it in all the bits too. Like Craig said, he's not trying to overpower everyone. He's like, as they're going through scenes, there's so many scenes in this movie where you can see them just on the verge of cracking up. Oh my God. Every time. Like the knife in the leg scene. I mean, just. get the knife out with the other knife cut around the meat cut around the meat they're in a hospital cut around the meat I don't know why there's no one helping cut around the meat don't you put that knife in your leg it really is a no skips movie like every scene I was trying to find the weak link and I was like I don't I can't I don't have one I don't think there's a scene you can cut because like even you could say oh maybe like you know the grandma teaching the kids how to but I'm like that's great all the Gary Cole stuff is great.

21:07Are we doing a weak link right now?

21:09Danny Heifetz:No, no. Just to your point, though, about the fall off is, ironically, Will Ferrell went on the shop with, it was LeBron and Maverick Carter and our co-worker here, Rich Paul. Right. And they were talking. I consider Rich Paul and I colleagues. We're basically colleagues. Yeah. Same level. And he literally just is like, Will Ferrell says, I don't make films. I make movies. Yeah. It's like films are nuanced and planned. And we kind of just show up and we're like, yeah, I want to rehearse. Nah, let's just go. Yeah. And I think that over time you run out of ideas. And I think the perfect example of that is Anchorman 2, which I think everyone wanted to be good.

21:45Danny Heifetz:There's that stupid thing where they like are in a lighthouse with a shark, the shark and he's like pretending to be blind, but he can see. I'm like, that's just the Talladega paralyzed scene. And it's like, he just, he did 15 years of uninterrupted, incredible ideas. and then he kind of just did them again in the next movies. Yeah. I know. It's interesting. Like my brothers-in-law are in their 20s and one's 25, one's 28. And the 25-year-old, his relationship to Will Ferrell is not as strong as I thought. Like there are movies I could pull up. I'm like, oh, have you seen Tall Day Good Nights? And he's like, oh, maybe.

22:17I don't know. Wow. And it's just so shocking to me that, I don't know, we're just in such a weird place now. I don't know what it's been. I mean, here and there, there are good movies popped up. Like Game Night's great. That was in 2018 and book smarts good. And I remember when blockers came out at the end of the 2010s. I was John Cena. Yeah. And I thought blockers was okay, but we've been in such a weird spot and no one's been able to replace Will Farrell. And I think it's made me appreciate him even more. And I think it's made this movie and this run age even better because there's just you, it almost seems unfathomable now that there could be a star that could be doing this where every year they're in a new movie and all of America is going to see it.

22:57Danny Heifetz:That's what I wanted to ask you about. Who else could do this? Is it Shane Gillis? Could Shane Gillis do this again? I think it's Shane Gillis. Although, I don't know. I think what Farrell is able to do is he can really play characters. I know he's kind of always doing the same thing. But Farrell's ability on SNL as somebody who can just morph into anyone really works. I don't know if Gillis has that. Sometimes the stand-up becoming a huge movie star, it obviously works sometimes. But I don't know if I can see Gillis. He just plays himself in everything. Yeah. I think it would have to be him, though.

23:30Even he's making a TV show right now on Netflix, Tires, which is really funny. But he's just basically being himself. Right. And I don't know if it's like Shane Gillis is a ping pong player. Shane Gillis is a cook.

23:40Danny Heifetz:I kind of think people would go see that, though. I kind of think it would work. Well, he's the most famous comedian in the world, and it would have to be him. I don't really know who else would be doing it. Like I said, Tim Robinson, I think, is too niche. And outside of that, there's no crew. Like, the Farrell-McKay crew, Stiller and Owen Wilson and all them, and then you move to Apatow and Seth Rogen, which became, like, even more improv-heavy, and it was just, like, stoners in a room improvising. And then after that, once we got to, like, this is the end, whatever, it dissipated. No group has replaced them.

24:10And now we're just in No Man's Land. I do think the Tim Robinson parallel with Farrell, though, is, and maybe there's probably a bunch of examples of this, but in that era, in the 2000s, 2010s even, we communicate like my friends and I communicated through movie quotes like we could do an entire conversation it's just just movie quotes from Will Ferrell like all different like Anchorman was huge you know and I think like Tim Robinson is kind of similar to that like we so many Tim Robinson quotes the memes he is really really memeable and that's like become part of you know the zeitgeist or whatever like we just talk I haven't even seen I think like all of I think you should leave and I still quote scenes I haven't seen.

24:50I got to figure out how to make money on this. There's a new Marvel movie out that's supposed to be nuts. I totally agree.

24:57Danny Heifetz:To that point, I actually think if you deleted all the Will Ferrell lines from my brain, I don't think I could have a conversation with my friends. I don't know how to communicate with other men without Will Ferrell. It is weird now. Do we just become best friends? Memes are becoming bigger than the source material. I have not seen that many episodes of I Think You Should Leave, And yet I know like 50 quotes. Yeah, the hot dog, the 55 burgers, like all that stuff. You don't even have to have seen those episodes and you get it. I just think you're here for the zip line. It's just so odd that that's where we are.

25:29It's like almost like now how they say how many followers you have is less relevant. It's just like how many views the video gets.

25:35Danny Heifetz:Yes, it's like in TikTok, it's like it doesn't even matter necessarily if you have a million followers or 10 ,000. But you're right. You can get the quotes in the cultural water without actually having digested it. Yes, like I think you should leave. I don't know how popular it is. I think it's relatively popular, maybe more cult following. And yet the memes are ginormous and everybody knows the memes even though people maybe didn't see the show. We're all trying to figure out who did this. You know, like the hot dog. I haven't even seen that scene. There you go. I don't think I've seen the zipline thing.

26:03Yeah. Oh my God, the zipline.

26:04Danny Heifetz:I've seen the 40 second clip. I've never seen the full thing. Yeah. Ronnie, I think you're just here for the zipline. He's like, what? And then there's like the maintenance guy. He broke it. He's like, shut up, Mike. Anyway, this movie is John C. Reilly, who, one of the best character actors ever, can do drama, do comedy, has worked with like PTA and Martin Scorsese and then just slipped in and became Will Ferrell's number two. Kind of like Jeff Daniels with Jim Carrey. Yeah. And honestly, it's kind of like Cal Naughton to Ricky Bobby in real life with Will Ferrell. He's the number two. I mean, he's happy to do it.

26:42Danny Heifetz:Clearly the real life thing, like what you're saying about the winning time thing where John C. Reilly gets to be Jerry Boss and Will Ferrell freaks out. That's literally the, well, if you win, how am I going to win? And he's like, yeah, you're right. Adam McKay thought that through and was like, I want to try this in real life. He's like, magic man. Now you see him. Now you go. Ah, damn it. It's actually awesome. Yeah. Yeah. And Reilly got his shot. I mean, after Talladega, he gets Walk Hard, which I know is a good movie for you. I really like it. Walk Hard is hilarious. Didn't that kind of pause all those music movies being made for like 10 years, the way Austin Powers changed James Bond.

27:18I never, yeah, I never had a stronger relationship to Walk Hard. It didn't do very well. And I think it's why John C. Reilly didn't really get another like lead comedy role shot. I think that was it. And it didn't really work. And then they kind of like, he went back and did Step Brothers. Just a little bit too much full frontal penis in Walk Hard for people's taste, maybe. I don't know. I think it's a classic. I actually rewatched it like a month ago and it still holds up in my opinion. I'm cutting back. I'm cutting half pretty bad. the weed scene's great the weed scene is you don't want any of this shit sounds expensive it's the cheapest drug there is the movie also has Sacha Baron Cohen, Jane Lynch, Gary Cole Amy Adams Michael Clark Duncan and Molly Shannon elite supporting cast again no misses across the board Jack McBrayer, David Koechner everyone in it's great the movie made $163 million on a$72 million budget.

28:14Not bad. Yeah. But this was in the DVD era where it's like the budget, you can't look at the Wikipedia budget. That's probably half of what it actually did. It made like 90 million in DVD sales and then I'm sure a ton more beyond that. It was the largest opening of Will Ferrell's career at the time. I think it still might be the most profitable Adam McKay movie. No Roger Ebert review. But we will take a quick break and then we'll get into most rewatchable scene where there's like 15. The whole movie. This episode is brought to you by ZipRecruiter.

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31:11All right, all right. All right. Opening title card, not a scene, but Eleanor Roosevelt quote fucking sets the tone. Yeah. I know exactly what I'm getting into. Honestly, that's the quickest tone setter I've ever seen for a movie. Eleanor Roosevelt. I completely get the entire ethos of the movie with just a title card. Yeah. Three little vignettes to start the movie. The birth and the car. the kid stealing the car in class or at the grocery store, and then Reese Bobby at career day. It's like these three tight little vignettes you get if you're not first or last. And then we get the Ricky as an adult, I don't know what to do with my hands, and then he starts winning montage.

31:52We get I Piss Excellence. Car handle real good. Just put him out. Just put him out. Now the guy just very gently touches his hand. Just put him down. Car had a real nice. I just love it. So good. That's just stuff that like, you just, that stuff's not in the script. I just love that. He's probably saying. Car had a real nice. You get the, Ricky Bobby's got two first names. I was trying to think of the owner, the Dennetts. Yeah. I want you to, what's the football comp there? What's the NFL owner comp with the owner of Dennett and then the son taking over?

32:31Danny Heifetz:It's got to be Jerry and Stephen Jones. Is that? Yeah, you might be right. But then who is Ricky Bobby to Steve Jones? Who do you got? Good question. Roma was the layup, but I mean. Is there an Al Davis, Mark Davis? Oh, that's pretty good. Yeah, microwave John Gruden. It's not bad. We have the dinner scene where we meet Walker and Texas Ranger. My beautiful son. TR, as we call him.

33:05I don't know there's a summer's been ready for hours I've been slaving over this for hours her accent's perfect dear lord baby Jesus Leslie Bibb is great yeah I love the way he's talking to you Chip you brought this on yourself Chip that's what happened when I see Kai speak up to Heifetz I love the way he's talking

33:24Danny Heifetz:to you Heifetz you brought the heat she said I have a lumpy butt and then I said fuck you and she yelled at me and I pissed in my pants I love that he pissed in his pants. There's so many. This scene is one of the more iconic moments of the movie, I would say. Praying to dear Lord, baby Jesus. Eight pounds, six ounces. Newborn infant Jesus. Don't even know a word yet.

33:48I like to think of Jesus in a tuxedo t-shirt. Hey, Cal, why don't you shut the hell up? He's like, yes, ma 'am. Yes, ma 'am. That relationship's great. I'm all jacked up on Mountain Dew. I'm coming at you like a spider monkey. there's just a remarkable amount of quotes I threw grandpa's war medals off the bridge sounds like a good day

34:09Danny Heifetz:dude you know the meme like I'll put it in the Louvre literally this scene made ape shit a thing oh I'll go ape shit on your ass you know what happens a few years later Jay Z makes a song with Beyonce called ape shit and then they film the music video in the fucking Louvre with the Mona Lisa you think saying ape shit in this movie inspired Jay-Z? Yeah, I mean, think about Watch the Throne literally starts by clipping Blades of Glory. Yeah. One song, one song only. Like, no one knows what it means it's provocative. That's a Jay-Z Kanye song and then starting with a Will Ferrell movie and then two years later they make a song called Ape Shit.

34:47Is that a half-assed internet research or is that just your opinion? Like, did you see that online?

34:51Danny Heifetz:Strong theory. I do not think that Beyonce and Jay-Z make a song called Ape Shit without this movie. Wow. And they literally shut down the Louvre at night to film there. Heifetz invented to the piano key necktie. I did. I don't think that's true, but I like to think it's true. He has really good half-day tears. I'll ask Rich to ask Jay-Z, and then maybe we can get an answer. Honestly, we might be closer to him than we think. You're right. Degrees of separation aren't that many. Mini scene, I love Ricky Bobby winning the race in reverse, which would just be like the biggest story of all time. Just flipping him off?

35:25I don't know. That was just fucking cool. Do they go that fast backwards? I was wondering that. I don't want to step on the Vincent Chase. Can they go as fast backwards as they can go forwards? Definitely not. Should I live Google that? I don't want to step on the Vincent Chase

35:36Danny Heifetz:so they're good at the job, but all the other race car drivers in this movie suck. Oh, what are you going to, really? We're going to do that? I mean, imagine losing a new guy who's going backwards. I'm just saying. It says here, ape shit was invented in the 1950s. But I think he's saying that it didn't. What the fuck? Did you Google it? What are you talking about? I did. I was curious. He's saying it inspired Jay-Z. You were alive. Did anyone use that term in the 90s? Oh, absolutely. yeah I feel like it exploded after this movie like I never heard it this movie this says no gas powered cars cannot drive as fast in reverse although they don't have as many they only have one gear what are you talking about it says electric cars have the physical capability to do so oh wow so eat that no fucking chance okay um I like that mini scene then we get the bar scene where we meet Jean Girard right and I love um when the music's playing and what's his name he's like turn that off he's like his brain's about over Like making him short circuit.

36:30Danny Heifetz:We keep it on for profile and purpose. It's jazz.

36:35Jean, we meet Jean. He breaks Ricky's arm. We get the crepes. Really thin pancakes. Him drinking the beer sideways is what he's like. I'm going to get a beer. You are disrespecting me. He's like, don't do it, Ricky. These colors don't run. I had a whole mess of crepes this morning. A whole mess. That's another quote that we used to say. I had a whole mess of crepes this morning. Very thin pancakes. It's fair compromise, no? He compromises immediately. I feel like Jaune was reasonable in that scene, actually. Super reasonable. Kelly breaks his arm. He gave him a compromise, dude.

37:08Danny Heifetz:Compound fracture. I mean, if he had just said really thin pancakes, it would have been fine. Then we have the montage of Jaune winning. We have Ricky's crash. Yeah. And then we have the hospital scene, which I feel like is the next kind of keystone scene of this movie, where we have, I hope you both have sons. Handsome, beautiful, articulate sons. Articulate. And they have their legs taken away from them. Don't you put that evil on me, Ricky Bobby. No, he's like, no, no, no, no. He needs to know. Beautiful, articulate sons. Articulate is unbelievable. I can't believe he chose that word. You know it was improvised too.

37:52Danny Heifetz:How many times have you, I feel like for me, it's 10 ,000 where it's like, don't you put that evil on me. Oh my God. Yeah. It's one of the top five quotes from the movie, I would say. Yeah. Even the brief scene where he's in a wheelchair playing basketball and he's kicking people. I think he gets up and takes the ball. Random line that stays with you. Like the first time you watch it, it's like, you know, all the, you know, first or last. But the line that I actually cackle every time, he's like, Cal's like psychosomatic. so you mean he can start a fire with his thoughts the doctor's like no it's just all in his head using the second knife to pry out the first knife which is maybe one of the funniest the sound it makes when it goes to the squish when he like bangs the second knife in with like a hammer it's crazy I think I had to watch that 70 times until I realized that they're in a hospital it's really good I'm paralyzed you are not you are not paralyzed don't you stick that knife in your leg oh what he does it's a noise it makes it's like like a squelch noise um so then we have kind of Ricky's fall and then we have the wife swap scene or like the family swap scene oh god which is I imagine he's like kissing his like this uh Walker and Texas Ranger on the head as he comes there playing a game together that's like me coming home week eight after Luther Burden is officially a flop and Liz is just with Heifetz and I'm like what's going on?

39:20And she's like, sorry, Kristen Watson was a better pick.

39:22Danny Heifetz:I was gone for three hours. Luther Burden was hurt for one game. Ricky, your marriage was a hollow shell. He's like, what? His whole house is like, they're playing Jenga? Everyone's got his arms around the kids? Dude, she's like, this marriage has been over a long time. He's like, no, I honestly did not know that. I did not know that. I did not know that. You're wrecking my life. We get magic, man. Now you see me. Now you don't. mini scene that I love is when Cal calls Ricky at night from Ricky's old house. So great. And he's like, when you have the stereo turned on and the TV, how do you handle the volume?

40:01And he's like, why do you need to listen to stereo and TV? Because I like to party. He's like, obviously. Why am I talking to you, man? He's like, all right, I'll call you tomorrow.

40:14Danny Heifetz:I feel like a thing I never even noticed until like this time is that he's like, I think your house is haunted. and he's like, it's not haunted, it's a new house. And then he's like, and then he goes out, he's eating a banana. That could have been like a whole part of the movie, honestly. Probably was. I do always watch these Apatow movies and I'm like, man, there actually is somehow three amazing games that they just never finished. Three hours of B-roll that they just didn't get. Oh, yeah. I mean, there was like Anchorman, they had enough for a second movie. All these movies, I feel like the first cuts are super long.

40:43Danny Heifetz:Anchorman, I'm convinced that it was supposed to end with the bear smelling the menstruation, which they had like literally set up perfectly, but then the bear almost killed somebody and they were like, we're done. We can't do that anymore. That was Jelly, the bear. Three more. Applebee's. And you get kind of the first or last realization, which is sad, which actually hits. When Reese is on the street and he's like, hell, Ricky, how's high when I said that? Hell, he'd be second, third, fourth. Even fifth. He'd be fifth. It kind of hits. I like how the dad just gets itchy anytime it's like even close to harmony in the family.

41:20It's like, ah, I got to start a fight. I got to start being mean to somebody. That's how I feel like when my family's playing a board game and everything's going fine. This needs more anarchy. Yeah, he's just like, you know what, fuck it. You guys are cheating.

41:33Danny Heifetz:And then it's like, no, we're not. And then it's in a fight. Reese is literally the most outlandish character I've ever seen. But then he just has that one line. He's like, I don't know what bone people have that makes them act right, but I wasn't born with it. I'm like, that actually was oddly cutting. That's a thing. um apologies i missed a scene one of the best the other of like the pantheon scenes is the cougar reese bobby getting ricky where'd you get a cougar i trapped it real simple son cops are coming there's a kilo of colombian bam bam under the car what do you do you get hairy on your peaches or what i love real simple son gary cole is great uh okay we have that we You have the Amy Adams speech.

42:13Oh God. Which I have to imagine would be Harrison Bucker's favorite speech a woman could ever give in a film. It includes the lines. I'll read it for you. Harrison Bucker would love this. You need to rev your engine. You need to fire it up and you need to grab a hold of that line between speed and chaos. And you need to wrestle it to the ground like a demon cobra. And then when the fear rises up in your belly, you use it. And you know that the fear is powerful because it's been there for billions of years. And it is good. And you use it and you ride it. You ride it like a skeleton horse in the gates of hell.

42:43And then you win, Ricky. You win. And you don't win for anyone else. You win for you. And you know why? Because a man takes what he wants. He takes it all. And you're a man, aren't you, Ricky? Aren't you?

42:51Danny Heifetz:Ricky Bobby is not a thinker. You're a driver. Butker's just torched watching that. Susan, I've never heard you talk like this. Flex category, the Harrison Butker Award for... Speech that would make Harrison Butker see it. Kind of an amazing moment. Amy Adams just comes out of nowhere. she I didn't realize now that like she wasn't really famous when this movie came out is that right? no because I'm like why is she in this movie? it's an incredibly small role she did Catch Me If You Can she was like the brief love interest three years before that and then she did a movie called Junebug that she that she wrapped on when she booked Talladega Nights so she ended up getting an Oscar nomination for Junebug but she that all happened while Talladega Nights was happening so I'm not saying she wouldn't have taken the role had she been an Oscar nominated actress.

43:38But it was like right as Amy Adams was about to take off.

43:42Danny Heifetz:You always joke about the glasses ponytail. It's funny to literally just see her glasses and a ponytail for the entire time. She takes the glasses off, lets her hair down. Fantastic scene in the bar. Oh, amazing. Are we about to get it on right now? Everybody turn around. Look away. Or we make an animal sounds. And then we have the final scene, the final race, the foot race, which I have to say, I got chills. When they start running on foot to the finish line, I legitimately get chills. you're just a sports fan. That's a, it is moving. Stirs the soul. So what do you got? What's most rewatchable?

44:14DK. Well, can we add more? Oh, sure. The commercials and commercial bloopers. Yeah. I have that for my gondoli, things I just enjoy. Yes. Butter in my ass, things I just enjoy. Fake ads in commercials. I mean, fake ads in movies are just, they always work for me. Yeah.

44:32Danny Heifetz:I literally have the same thing for that category. It always works. just these like nothing for christmas like the jackhawk 9 000 jackhawk 9 000 the holidays are just around the corner what better gift to give a loved one than the jackhawk 9 000 available at walmart jackhawk we're competitors on the racetrack but we want to talk to you about something very serious packs of wild dogs controlling most of the major cities controlling most of the major cities if you don't chew big red then fuck you i have said that one million times in my life and dude And I know it probably hasn't aged great. When he's doing the prune candy ad, when I first, as a 13-year-old, that fucking killed me.

45:11Danny Heifetz:Dude, the Fig Newton, this sticker is dangerous and inconvenient, but I do love Fig Newton's. Bodies that look so good, you're going to want to talk to it. For McCready's funeral services. The funeral of what's the best one. These bodies are going to look so good, you're going to want to talk to it. 98 % of people will die at some point in their life. Did you guys watch the extended cut or the original? The original. Because I think some of the lines you're quoting are not in the original. No, the best bloopers, those are during the end credits. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the end credits, they're just kind of playing and they're cutting between.

45:43Danny Heifetz:About snow blindness and cats. Snow blindness and cats. Scares the living shit out of us. I would love nothing more than to watch Will Ferrell do fake ads for like seven hours. Oh, 100%. I think the best scene, it's hard because like you said, every scene is great. My favorite scene is probably the dinner, honestly. The dinner and grace. I want you to do this grace good. The dinner, the, yeah, the grace, the baby Jesus, six pounds, seven ounces. Never known a word. He had a beard. He was a man. He had a beard. I feel like we do that all the time. I know, we say that probably once a week. I think.

46:23He was a man.

46:24Danny Heifetz:He had a beard. I make the money. I picked the Jesus. Dude, I think this was the most. $21.6 million. Ow. Love that money. I think this was the most quoted scene of my childhood. I think that's right. It's got to be up there. Because you have, I'm going to be on your ass like a spider monkey. I'm all jacked up on Mountain Dew. Thank you, Lord, baby Jesus. Like, if you just kind of go down the line, like, the amount of quotes that I've just, are just stuck in my brain from this, I think it was the most quoted line until, I mean, I guess maybe things later, but I don't think even my friends were even quoting Anchorman as much as this movie.

47:01It's a good call. It could be up there with one of the, volume-wise, the most quotes of any scene in the 2000s. Yeah, quotes per minute. Quotes per minute that still stick to this day. I love the way he's talking to you, Chip. Yeah. The tuxedo t-shirt thing.

47:16Danny Heifetz:Dude, that one is, he's like, I picture Jesus in a tuxedo t-shirt because it's like formal, but I like the party. He's like, Leonard Skinner. He's just hammer drunk. And I'm just hammer drunk. Big eagle wings. Why don't you just shut the hell up? Yes, ma 'am. He's like a changeling. You ever seen Manimal? A changeling. It is really good. I mean, this is like the perfect example of that era where they would do 18 different takes of a line and just like see what stuck. So funny. Domino's, KFC, and the always delicious Taco Bell. I didn't even remember that he had sponsored the Grace. He was outpowering.

47:54Danny Heifetz:this great we have contractually obligated to mention the upcoming flavor i don't remember what the flavor was blue power blueberry mountain mist yeah that's kind of a new level of sponsorship i didn't know it's possible grace is having to do sponsorships in the privacy of your own home to just your family i mean that's like guerrilla marketing right to spread the good word yeah so do you have the dinner the dinner scene i think it has to be the dinner but i do want to shout out the bar scene because i think the bar scene is sneaky actually unbelievable and how also how funny it is because the whole like, what did France ever give the world?

48:25Danny Heifetz:It was like, democracy, existentialism, and le ménage à trois. Those are some good things. But the other one is just the crepes. These colors don't run. He's like, actually, Rick, I had mess crepes this morning. But also just the conversation into the bar where they're like, yeah, my grandmother, her birthday's coming up. I don't know what to get her. She's turning 85. Get her a coffin. I love that that scene's in the movie. Doesn't need to be there. It's great. That was my that guy. We'll get to that one. Yeah, yeah. I think it has to be the grace. I agree. It's dinner. Supper. Supper. Supper's ready.

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49:23Danny Heifetz:You actually do drive us in that car, actually, all the time. That's right. Smooth drive. Front seat, back seat, fantastic. It's a great car. Okay, new category. In the spirit of Bill Simmons, I'm springing it on you without telling you. What is the number one enduring liner joke from this movie? What has lasted culturally the longest? There's a kind of a category called, like, the 4chan most gifable moment. But what do you think? I don't want to do the gif. I want to do just like, what is the quote or moment or joke or anything that has culturally lasted the best? If you ain't first to your last, maybe.

49:58It doesn't make me laugh anymore,

50:00Danny Heifetz:but I think that is the quote that has lasted the longest. I would agree. I would say first or last the hands thing. I don't just do it with my hands. I think it's like, I feel like everybody still reference that. Yeah. Don't you put that evil on me, Ricky Bobby, but it's gotta be first. if you're not first, your last is now just a part of the lexicon. Yeah. People, everyone knows that quote, even if they don't know where it came from. Right. Like a, like a Tim Robinson meme where it's like, I haven't even watched the show. If you're not first, your last, I'm almost like, man, that sounds like such a, like a common quote.

50:30I can't believe this movie came up with that. Like, is that the first time that has been uttered? If you're not first, your last?

50:34Danny Heifetz:Was that like Marcus Aurelius? No, it was actually, no, it wasn't. This was one of my facts. It was actually a playoff of Vince Lombardi. Really? Yeah. he basically said I mean in more proper English I guess if you're not first you're last it's like basically winning is the only thing that matters and then Vince Lombardi said I'm a big hairy American winning machine I wake up in the morning I piss excellence I'm the best there is I piss excellence did you find that online or did you just remember yeah no I found that online his famous quote was winning isn't everything it's the only thing and I think that was it kind of turned into if you're not first, you're last.

51:12Did McKay and Farrell talk about that? Or is that something that you connected the dots on yourself? No, I think this was like on the just random facts I found. I don't know. I agree. It's if you ain't first, you're last. Okay, what is the most 2006 thing about this movie? I had a great time putting this list together.

51:28Danny Heifetz:It was excellent. Heifetz, what do you got? There's a few, but I think you have to start with the Nextel patch. Like, dude, Nextel. I couldn't even remember what they did. Cell phones? Cell phones, but that is just such a specific era. Yeah. Sure. The other one is just at the end, something I totally forgot about is the son who takes over the team is like really trying to get Halliburton to sponsor the car. Oh, that's why I put that down. Halliburton references. Halliburton was like a reviled company in that era. It's like Dick Cheney's company. They're just like late stage capitalism. Is it oil?

52:04It's like an oil services.

52:06Danny Heifetz:Oil product, like oil logistics, basically. I think they're doing rigs and stuff. He's like, I'd love to get some of that stock. I would love to get my hands on that stock. And the guy just kind of nods. That was like Adam K. Just put that in. And then he went and made Vice 10 years later. What else you guys got? I got a couple here. Making the villain a gay French guy. I literally said, the butt of the joke being this guy's super gay and French. Yeah. It's pretty 2006. That is very. These colors don't run being something they say. That was like very much that era. the sideburns soul patch combination.

52:42Several of my friends had that. It was a really big thing. Not like outlandishly. People just did that. Like really long sideburns. Where'd those go? We don't do that anymore. Rightfully so. I'm not sure. Most things have come back. I don't know if the long sideburn will come back. To play off of the Nextel thing, the mention of Circuit City. He's got more plugs in him than a Circuit City. Circuit City being a thing. When Carly says she wants to pull the plug on him. Yeah. He's like, Ma 'am, he's just asleep. I've never heard him make noise like that. And he just yawns. That's like looking up Yasmeen Bleeth's skirt.

53:20Oh, yeah. Great. Had to look that up. Yasmeen Bleeth means something to people of my generation. Baywatch? My specific generation, yes. Bill, if he's listening to this,

53:29Danny Heifetz:is like, okay, finally someone. Yasmeen Bleeth was... Had no idea who that was. Yeah, super, super attractive. I mean, also, just Jean-Gerard having lunch with Elvis Costello and Mos Def? Yeah, Mos Def. It was actually them. He's like, was that Elvis Costello and Mos Def? He's like, no. The other one is like, will you be my Katie Couric? Oh, that, yeah. So what's your winner? I think it has to be Halliburton. No. I mean, that's like fine. The most 2006 thing? I think it's making the villain a gay French guy. I have Amy Adams being a tiny, small side character in a movie. That's kind of, yeah. Can I throw out one other one?

54:08Danny Heifetz:Sure. I kind of think it's Sacha Baron Cohen in a way. And I know that he had a career after that, but I feel like you're like, oh my God, this is like Borat. That's not bad. Borat came out three months after this. Yeah, we'll get to that. But I just kind of, I don't know. That just, you know. What do you guys have? So the Floyd Gundoli buttered my ass and the lollipops in my mouth award for something I just enjoy. I have the fake ads and commercials. That's great. I had fake ads and commercials. I got 95 % of us will die at some point in our lives. The darkness is creeping towards you, whether you want it or not.

54:38Danny Heifetz:The other one I just had for things I just enjoy, one, the sound of race cars is unbelievable. Molly Shannon was on or something. We'll do that later. We'll wait. Let's wait. That's like your Wayne Jenkins. Yeah. We're going to let him just not. We're not doing it right now. The other one I want to throw out is just getting into a muscle car through a window without opening the door. You like when people do that? Every time. Dude, Ricky Bobby's dad does that at one point later. I'm like, I'm pretty sure the door is open in this car. It does. Because it always hits. And the last one is just champagne when race car drivers win.

55:09Danny Heifetz:It's a great... Yeah, I like that. I thought about that. The only other thing I have is Rob Riggle and David Koechner just kind of being in every comedy. I just want them in every comedy. Give them four lines each. I love seeing them. They're a floor raiser. Always great. I agree with that. Something I really enjoy, shifting gears in a car to music to aggressively pass someone. Just feels primal somehow. I love when they do that. You know, I'm not a huge, like, chasing guy, but I'll watch people shifting gears to, like, change speeds for two hours straight. Do you like the movie Baby Driver? There's a lot of that.

55:45Yeah.

55:45Danny Heifetz:Well, it's like cell phones, kind of like, they had to almost invent ways for people to not have cell phones in a movie. When there's all, like, driverless electric cars, they're going to have to invent reasons for people to use the stick shift still, because I don't even know how to watch a scene with a car without a stick shift. I almost put shifting gears into the 2006 category. Do you guys know how to drive a stick? Absolutely not. Hell no. Hell no. No. Well, I do. Let's see. Oh, and this is something that I've just noticed about a lot of movies, sports movies from that era and from other eras.

56:16I love using real-life sports announcers in the movies about the sports and how they do voiceovers to kind of set the stage or whatever. I just think that's really fun. I like that. And so in this movie, I had kind of forgotten that they do that. And they use B-roll of like real NASCAR events, which I think always helps as well. All right, what's age the best? I got a couple. I think in general, the racing looks great. The way they filmed it. It's like a big budget. Has completely held up. They filmed a lot of it in North Carolina. It just looks really authentic and really good. And the crashes look phenomenal.

56:48It's just really high end. You can tell that this is a comedy that they put a lot of work into on the production side. It looks awesome. I have Leslie Bibb, who we haven't really talked about a whole lot. Her performance stands out more to me now than it ever has. She was perfectly cast. Perfect. You could not have replaced her with anybody. Yes. She's phenomenal in it. And then, yeah, like her performance as a trophy wife, just like that. I don't work. I don't work. All of that, I just feel like, has gotten sweeter over time. They said that, so apparently, because NASCAR was very - That's good, baby.

57:19I like what I love when she's like pep talking to them when they're talking shit. It's so good.

57:24Danny Heifetz:With NASCAR, I guess, because NASCAR was very involved in making this movie. And I guess the head of NASCAR basically was in the test screening and no one would laugh until he laughed. like it was like, you know, like Stalin rush or something. And then the wife thing where he's like, I'm a race. I'm a driver's wife. I don't work. And he bust out laughing. And then everyone else was like, apparently that was like a big sort of inside joke inside. Like the NASCAR community is like, there's a lot of gold diggers. I mean, is that, I feel like across probably a lot of sports, but yeah, a lot of gold diggers and a lot of crazy ass kids.

57:53Yeah. Is what I heard. Walker and Walker and Texas. My beautiful sons. Walker. What do you guys have? Heifetz.

58:01Danny Heifetz:what's each of the best? I have Ricky trademarking if you ain't first or last and literally saying to the camera, if you ain't first or last and also that is a trademark phrase, you are not allowed to use that. Like watching that three weeks after Jaden Daniels said, you can't use my own. This is what I said to you. I was like, this is incredible. I was like the very blatant, like marketing. This movie's fucking great about marketing. The Applebee's commercial during a crash. That's the other one. Fucking great. Dude, literally the Apple energizers. Yeah, like when someone's like in football, someone's writhing because their legs are snapped in half.

58:32And it's like two for one antitizers, quesadillas. I almost couldn't believe that that had happened

58:37Danny Heifetz:because we've been joking with that. That was like four NFC Championship games ago. And it's like the new chicken finger crunch sandwich, 1999. All right, we're back. Oh, my leg. That's great. So good. The really PC track announcer somehow has, it's aged well when he's like, ladies and gentlemen, that is a new track record as it stands now. Jean Girard is sitting on the pole, which is a statement of fact and is no way a comment on the driver's sexual orientation. He also has a line that I missed. He goes, the Wonder Bread is toast when he crashes. I missed that. Oh, I didn't even notice that one.

59:15Yeah, the Wonder Bread car is toast. The other one I had of what's aged the best is Rick saying, oh, no, nobody can live forever.

59:23Danny Heifetz:But I mean, with modern technology and advances in science, I think I can make it 245, 300 years old. 245? is the funniest number you've ever said. Craig's saying he can go three for five from three in an NBA game. If I'm in a corner spot, three for five, planted, no one around me, easy money. Feet set. Famously how NBA games work. I will say, Brian Johnson's just trying to do this now. That's right. Well, now he's trying to dunk. He went from, I want to live forever to I'd love to dunk. He's taking the bar down a little bit. Well, I can't live to 200, so maybe I'll just try to have a 43-inch vertical.

59:55Danny Heifetz:He's realizing that if he doesn't get it in now, it's just not going to happen. you have any more I had some ones that we already talked about with like the post race interview thing was I just think it's so good Big Kahuna Burger Award best use of food or drink we could go crepes we could go big red gum we go dinner scene with all the takeout Laughing Clown Malt Liquor this is like one of those sort of things they don't really mention during the show but he's got his car is sponsored by Laughing Clown Malt Liquor And then later his dad is drinking a can of Laughing Clown. He's drinking that Tallboy, that black can the whole movie.

1:00:33I think that's Laughing Clown malt liquor. Always with the Tall Can, the Tallboy is so good.

1:00:38Danny Heifetz:I wanted to do the dinner scene for this, but the truth is they don't eat and you don't see any of the food, so I don't know if that's a violation of this category. Eh, it's fine. Does 20 kilos of Colombian Bam Bam work as food or drink? Oh, the Lucky Charms. The only one I want to throw out. Don't snort these. The part that gets me is every time when he's like drinking the coffee during driving and he's like, you spilled my macchiato. Macchiato. I think it's the Lucky Charms. I think that's a good call. All right, cool. Great shot, Gordo Award, most cinematic shot. There's one crane shot that is pretty cool on top of the racetrack where the cars are going and a crane literally swoops down over all the cars and goes into the driver's seat with Ricky.

1:01:16That I thought was really impressive. Yeah, that's good. I mean, I thought like the long crash where they're tumbling in slow motion and you can like see there's a fire happening in like the engine block. and as it's spinning. And there's also an earlier one where he's like, oh, I'm flying through the air. This is not good. This is not good. There's also just cinematography making me want to be at a NASCAR race. There's a scene where they're kind of like introducing the race. And I think they're doing like the start of the flag and then they do like a flyby with like four fighter jets. I'm like, fuck, that might actually be really fun to go to.

1:01:50Have you ever been to a NASCAR event? I haven't. Sitting on top of an RV in like the middle of the race. on a little lawn chair, I'm like, I'll try that. I'll do that.

1:01:59Danny Heifetz:I have not been to a NASCAR event. I snuck into the Monaco Grand Prix. Oh, that's right. Last year. Classic crisis. I watched it. Fucking James Bond. The only person in the world who made money on it because then I went to the Monte Carlo and I won 25 bucks and offset my$22 on trains. Playing what? You won 25 bucks? Wow. It was a great day. But the number one thing, though, is those cars are so fucking loud. He won 25 bucks. He's like, it was a great day. It was a great day. I made money on it. Don't ask how much. It was a dollar. It was a euro 90. You broke even. But you walk out. The cars are so loud.

1:02:32Danny Heifetz:Like unbelievably loud. And everyone's like, yeah, they're so quiet now. But no, that's always the thing. The NASCAR, it is an experience. I mean, the biggest sporting event in America is the Indy 500. Yeah. You have like over 100. You have, I think, 200 ,000 people go to the Indy 500. It looks pretty fun. Chess Rockwell, Brock Landers Award, best character name. I don't think we try to get to it. Where do we even start with this? I think it's Ricky Bobby. I think we just we keep it simple more than Walker and Texas Ranger Ricky Bobby is the most iconic yeah no it's right you're right I mean it's relative to like yeah the Texas TR Ranger is a funny joke in the movie but relative to this is the name of a character of the star of the movie of the star of the decade and it's in the title where does Ricky Bobby rank among the best names of any characters ever had good question is it better well the real question is is it a better name than Ron Burgundy yeah Ricky Bobby.

1:03:25Have you ever met anyone with the last name Bobby? You ever met anyone with the last name Burgundy? Well, fair. I don't know. Ron Burgundy or Ricky Bobby? I'm going Ricky Bobby. I'm Ron Burgundy. You stay classy, San Diego.

1:03:41Danny Heifetz:Ron Burgundy, I just laugh because I think of him as Ron Burgundy, but Ricky Bobby is also just kind of funny on its own. Which name do you think is more famous? I think Ron Burgundy. I don't know. I think it's Ron Burgundy. Yeah. I think it has to be. Which movie had, which one made more? They were similar. I think Talladega made more. On this note, I wanted to. The same title thing you're talking about. Anchorman is not called Anchorman. Anchorman is the legend. Anchorman colon the legend of Ron Burgundy. I was going to ask you about this. The Ballad of Ricky Bobby. Do you think they had to call it Ballad because they had just done Legend of Ron Burgundy?

1:04:13Danny Heifetz:And they're like, what's another legend-like name? Honestly, that's a 2006 thing is titling movies like this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like one word colon the blank of the blank. It's like Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark. Things like that. Wow, it's a good question, though. It's kind of an unanswerable question. Ricky Bobby or Ron Burgundy? I don't know. We should put a poll up on Instagram. Who's more recognizable? On the rewatchable's Instagram and have people vote. I'm curious. Kid Cudi Pursuit of Happiness Award. Best Needle Drop. I have four that I loved. I have King of the Road to start the movie, which is wonderful.

1:04:45The opening scene when he's giving birth. Painted Black in French. Oh, yeah. When Jean Girard's taken off. Faithfully by Journey when they're in the bar, Amy Adams and Will Ferrell and they're about to get it on. And then at the very end, TNT. Oh, yeah. ACDC. When they initiate the slingshot and Cal Nott is back on the rookie side. I like Faithfully. That's interesting. I have two others. Okay. I mean, all those are great, first off. Audio Slave, Cochise. Early in the, I think it was like the first montage of him racing and like starting to get great at it or whatever. If you know that song, you recognize it.

1:05:23It's just like a kick-ass riff. And then I didn't know who this was by, but Saliva with Click, Click, Boom. Oh, yeah. Click, click, click, boom.

1:05:34Danny Heifetz:And that's like what he's like shifting. That's like a classic Need for Speed song that would be on every soundtrack in a racing video game. Click, click, boom. I think my takeaway from this category, this soundtrack was like shockingly good. What's the final song too? Like, We Belong To... We belong to each other. We belong. That song is like a choice. That one is... I did a Westworld pod. It's Pat Benatar. I did a Westworld pod and I really wanted it to be the Paint It Black in French. But I actually think that song is the answer. What, the We Belong? Yeah, I kind of think that is the best needle drop in the movie.

1:06:10Danny Heifetz:Because you have to nail that song. It's like a perfect choice. It is good. People like the ending of this movie and this song is pretty important to the ending. Is there a better title for this movie? So, in the research, it says during development, NASCAR didn't like the name. They wanted to change it. It was going to be High, Wide, and Handsome. I was going to ask you. It's a terrible name. Why was that? That's not even a line in the movie. Maybe it would have been or maybe it was a scene that got cut. I don't know, but that's not a good name. Talladega Nights is, I think, a fantastic name.

1:06:38I think Talladega Nights is, you don't want to mess with that.

1:06:40Danny Heifetz:Was that the name? Or, because I think the kid who plays TR was saying that like, oh, all the chairs and everything on the set. Stop saying TR. Texas Ranger. Texas Ranger. It's his government name. Texas Ranger. I'm surprised Chuck Norris wasn't in this movie. Yeah. Could they not get him? Just in Dodgeball. I don't know. I know. How could they not get him? They had just done the fuck you Chuck Norris in Dodgeball. You can't just run back Chuck Norris. They did though. Chuck Norris is a - Walker and Texas Ranger. Yeah, but you can't get him in the movie. He was just in a movie at the end of a movie.

1:07:07Danny Heifetz:I think my question is, do you think that was like the project code name for the movie? Or they actually were going to call it High, Wyatt, and Henson? it says they were going to call it that. The other thing they were going to call it apparently was Red, White, and Racing. That's not bad. I like Talladega Nights. I think Talladega Nights is... Talladega Nights, I mean, this is maybe an obvious question. Is it a play on Days of Thunder? Well, I don't think this movie is like a direct parody of that, but it is parodying movies like Days of Thunder. John C. Reilly in Days of Thunder. In Days of Thunder.

1:07:37Danny Heifetz:Yes. Well, I feel like that was the big thing. I feel like that's the reason... Also Tom Cruise. I might be stepping on a cat. They're making it again. Days of Thunder 2. Are they really? What? They just announced it. Oh, wow. Tom Cruise and Anne Hathaway. Wow. Is he going to be Dick Trickle? Huh? Isn't that his name in the movie? Tom Cruise? One of the people in that movie. Let's look it up live on air. Cold Trickle. Cold Trickle. Dick Trickle. There is a race car driver named Dick Trickle. He's not lying. There is a Dick Trickle. There's no connection. Okay. Dick Trickle. Your head was just in the gutter.

1:08:12Dick Trickle. that's an all-time name alright DK yeah you have a flex category oh yeah yeah yeah I went with the I used to fuck guys like you in prison award for craziest quote okay also I looked that up that's from Roadhouse that's fucking great dude that that one is insane it's so serious he's like in his ear I used to fuck guys like you in prison holy shit it's actually insane it's the craziest line in the movie then he rips that guy's throat out anyway the 80s were the best so craziest quote I mean this is a comedy so there's gonna be a million funny quotes but like to me are we about to get it on because I'm about as hard as a diamond in an ice storm right now is something I say all the time I'm about as hard as a diamond in an ice storm you say that all the time yeah I do I love that her name is Susan Susan Susan you might be the weirdest little girl I've ever met Carly and Susan I could have used another scene stop staring at me You're the weirdest little girl.

1:09:13I could have used another scene of Carly and Susan. The other one that I thought was great was Gary Cole, the grandpa, talking to the kids. He goes, shut up, you potlicker. I'll put you in a microwave. I'll put you in a microwave. I'll put you in a microwave. That was fucking great. Also, he had another great line late in the movie when he is introduced to Susie for the first time, Susan, for the first time. And he's like, I'm his lady. We had sex. He's like, is that right? He's like, well, I wish I could have been there for that. I think Reese Bobby is maybe one of my favorite characters also another great name Reese Bobby Reese Bobby alright Butch's girlfriend award weak link of the film I don't typically like to do this but I don't I don't I don't have anything do you?

1:09:57I think if it was just like a quibble okay Sacha Baron Cohen's accent is just like too much too French it's like it takes him too long to say anything I thought he did I thought he had a chance to be funnier in this movie if he could have just like talked a little more normally. It was like, it felt like he was, his whole mouth was numbed with Novocaine. It took him forever to get out any word.

1:10:19Danny Heifetz:You sound like a dog with peanut butter on his mouth. I don't know. I just thought he could have been funnier, honestly. And so I thought his accent, like the way that it kind of limited what he could do. He goes like very deep into the character. Yeah. More than he is trying to be like big and broadly funny. I am from formula. Yeah. I don't know. Like the scenes where they kind of get, tight talking with him and Ricky Bobby. And he's like, I just love the way that Ricky Bobby is like so dismissive of it. He's like, all right. He's like, and next, there is war. And Ricky Bobby's just like, all right.

1:10:55When they're like nose to nose and they're just like, I play for Keats. I play for Keats. Okay, what's age of the worst? I have this is like a half age of the worst, but there are a lot of cultural references that I have no idea what they're talking about. Oh, yeah. And I actually it's tricky what's age the worst because I actually think comedy should be doing this. I think references in the moment are good for comedies. And I know you're trying to like play to the whole world now. So you don't want to do that as much. But I like it. What were the what were some examples, you know, in 2006 when when Carly's like, if we if we want a couple of wussies, we would have named him Dr.

1:11:32Quinn and Medicine Woman. I never have no idea what that like. That's a show that today show from the 90s. It's about a female physician from Boston who moves to a rugged frontier town in the 1860s. It's a funny joke, but I have no idea what that is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Rue McClanahan from Golden Girls? Oh, come on. Classic. I'm a middleweight guy. Classic. The movie Highlander is referenced. It won the Oscar. I watched Highlander. It was shit. It was shit. It won the Academy Award. For what? Best movie ever. but like again these are I like when movies do this but Katie Couric and Diane Sawyer people watch now probably don't know what that means Yasmin Bleeth's skirt love that I had no idea what that meant so it's like it has literally aged the worst because I think a lot of people who watch it now have no idea what they're talking about but I personally like when movies do that I also watched the trailer for Highlander have you guys seen that movie yeah I have not it looks really bad it's like a it's a really bad it's a really good bad movie It's about an immortal Scottish swordsman who lives in modern New York City and has to fight another.

1:12:39That could be only one. I've seen that scene. I do love it. I watched the Highlander movie. It was shit. That was DK about Transformers. I watched the Transformers movie. It was shit. Like smoking one of those long cigarettes. You literally say you watched Kingpin. You were like, I don't know. I love that they can communicate while driving. They can just hear each other. It was shit. Screaming out the window. The homophobic humor, obviously, was 2006 and would never play now. What else do you guys have? Anything? I had that, you know, the scene where the grandmother takes in the two kids and they're out of control.

1:13:20And she talks about this is granny law. And granny law just involves hitting the kids. She like slaps them to straighten them out. Oh, interesting. You think the soft parents of 2026 would not. I'm just saying it didn't age well. Hitting kids didn't age well. Those kids are little devils. Those kids, they literally rain water. So just so we're clear, you guys are defending hitting children. Look, everybody has their own, whatever you want to do. That's within reason. I don't know. Within reason. I'm just saying it aged poorly. She gave him like one slap. I know. It was a joke. Give me a break.

1:13:52Your joke is factually correct. I'm like, okay. Cal talking about how Carly was unconscious every time they've had sex. You know what? I don't know what that meant. I don't know why that was in there. They need to be there. I don't think they needed to mention them having sex. That was very odd. I agree. That's all I got.

1:14:09Danny Heifetz:I mean, the cougars named Karen. I know that age well. That name has aged. Well, just that name, you know. Down, Karen! Karen. Cougars just named Karen. Is that all you got? I don't, yeah. No, I mean, I think you guys said it. All right. The Ruffalo-Hannah-Rubinick-Partridge Award for overacting. It's a comedy. It's a comedy, yeah. Like, Molly Shannon is, like, fucking going for it, but I would argue it works. But she is... What are you referencing? She's one of the highlights of the movie. What are you talking... I don't remember what you're talking about. Deacon, can you remind us? Where did I have that?

1:14:45Because I want to make sure... She was my Dion Waiters. She just fucking goes for it. You're getting ahead of the categories. Yeah. Well, that's his fault. He wanted you to do the quote. Do the goddamn thing. I know. I was waiting, but I'll try. I'll try. Hold on. Okay, so...

1:14:58Danny Heifetz:It's the overacting. Yeah. She's drunk in every scene. Yeah. She's belittling her husband's career choice. He's like, this is my life. She goes, who cares? Who cares? He's like, I will tell you the one thing about coming to these races, the vibrations of the cars. Oh, I love it. I just love it. She's like shaking. When those cars whiz by. I realize I've been saying it wrong. It's whiz by. Oh. Which is great. The vibrations. The motor. running up my legs. Larry Dennett's like looking around hoping nobody is watching. I like the silverware clattering. The other motor. Okay, Heifetz, you have a flex.

1:15:44Danny Heifetz:So I realized that the flex categories I copied and pasted your email wrong and there's like 30 more that I realized. Okay. So I was like, oh, I thought there were more of these. So can I crowd it? Can I pool now? Sure. Because I was kind of like, why weren't there more of these? I just found this out what did you have before that? before I had I was like well I was going to be like a race horse name but I also just only found the first seven and I saw that there were three more pages of flex categories I like how there's a whole smoking subcategories oh yeah sure should we take this opportunity while Bill's not here to just go through these flex categories there's like 40 I know I realize that we're not going to go through 40 categories the we can skip it no I don't want no I can't skip my flex category I know this is a disaster for you no I know it is what are some of your favorites Craig the Sean Fentasy stealth movie homage that gives you a criteria orgasm I don't even this probably isn't referencing this but there's a scene when Ricky Bobby signs a woman's chest and it's exactly like Happy Gilmore when he signs the woman's chest oh right and I wonder if that is referencing that movie that's a good one I hope it says no the Sean Penn I brought my own pack award excellence in on screen smoking that just makes me laugh as a scene did you think that Jean Girard was good at smoking the little petite long cigarette I felt like he didn't do a great job it was a bad cigarette so that would be the Tom Cruise which end do I light award for terrible on-screen smoking.

1:17:28Danny Heifetz:That's right. There you go. I wanted to ask the question about what exactly the It's a Book About Metals Award award was. Yeah, but later the best quote. Is that just like when you rewatch it, you're like, oh, they're setting something up. It's supposed to be a plot where it's rewarding or it's just a quote that's good later? It's a quote that didn't stand out the first time you watched it, but upon the 20th viewing, you're like, oh, that line's actually great. I want to give it to It's Psychosomatic. There you go. You can start a fire with your thoughts. Great one. Okay. Actually, let's take a Wait The other one I have The best name for a racehorse We talked about Ricky Bobby But do you know what has not come up In this episode yet?

1:18:03Hmm A little bit of shake? That's actually shocking And bake Shake and bake is good Is that a catchphrase? Or epilepsy? Shake and bake Shake and bake

1:18:15Danny Heifetz:What does that mean? What does it mean? Great one I kind of think of a horse Named shake and bake How did we not say shake and bake? I don't know Or the magic man That's fucking crazy It's like, I'm going with El Diablo. What's that? It's like a fighting chicken or something. That's awesome. They love each other so much. Mexican fighting chicken or something. All right, we'll take a break and then we'll be back with the hottest take. For adults with Crohn's disease or ulcerative colitis symptoms, every choice matters. Tremphaya offers self-injection or intravenous infusion from the start. Tremphaya is administered as injections under the skin or infusions through a vein every four weeks, followed by injections under the skin every four or eight weeks.

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1:20:39You want to start a NASCAR pod? You just want to watch NASCAR I'm like, maybe NASCAR You can turn it on The hot take There is no hot take really, I guess It's just that NASCAR is actually way better than I thought Oh, interesting. Yeah. Okay. You're going to start getting into it? Have you ever watched a NASCAR race? I have actually watched NASCAR back in the day. Okay. It's kind of crazy to actually go like 500 miles. That's insane to me. But yeah, it's kind of fun to watch. All right. Heifetz, tough to follow that.

1:21:06Danny Heifetz:I want to watch a NASCAR race. My hottest take, this is the funniest sports movie. Ever made? Yes. Like, period. I mean, if you want to be like Caddyshack, sure, but 21st century, you can draw the line. But I think we all love Happy Gilmore, but I actually think if you show someone Happy Gilmore now and they're 40, it might not be that funny. This movie holds up. You didn't just have to be 11 years old to see this the first time. I think this is my favorite and the funniest sports movie. Waterboy. We have Kingpin. Kingpin. Longest Yard, Caddyshack. We have the other Will Ferrell movies, Blades of Glory, Kicking and Screaming, Semi-Pro.

1:21:42I think second is, it's locked in at second. I would not put it above Happy Gilmore. I think it's more universally loved than Happy Gilmore. And I think it's probably an easier sell to somebody. I think if I had to show Happy Gilmore or Talladega to somebody who hasn't seen either, I would be more confident that Talladega would hit.

1:22:01Danny Heifetz:I think Adam Sandler is a lot like Jim Carrey in that whatever you saw before your brain was sealed at like 21 years old is forever. But after that, it's just hard to break in. And we were watching this, I was just like, This movie, every part about it is still incredible. Dodgeball, also there. Yeah, yeah. That's a good one. My hot take is that this movie has aged better than Anchorman. I think it has. I think the humor in Anchorman... It was like very that era. It's more esoteric, yeah, and more specific to that era than Talladega Nights, which I think plays way better now. And I think Anchorman is a much more famous movie.

1:22:36I think looking back on it, it's more beloved. But to be honest, I think if I go back and I watch Talladega versus Anchorman, I am I like Anchorman because of my memories of watching it and the humor at the time and the jokes I would make as a 12 year old but I think Talladega right now is funnier than Anchorman right now I think I agree with that I don't but that's why it's a good take like I think a lot of Anchorman is like it's that like really kind of dry Ron Burgundy improvised sarcasm real bits of panther like shit like that yes 60 % of the time every time right I don't know No, I think this humor is bigger and more universal, and I think it holds better.

1:23:16Danny Heifetz:I don't disagree. I always thought I was biased because I saw Talladega before Anchorman, and I just feel like my friends quote Anchorman, or Talladega more, and so I was biased, but I do agree with that. I think there's a chance, if I show Anchorman to like a 20-year-old right now versus Talladega, I think there's a better chance that Anchorman falls flatter than Talladega. I kind of see what you're saying. That's my hot take. Here's a half-baked hot take that I just thought of while we were talking, and this might not even be close to right, but I want to throw it out there. While watching this movie, did you ever get the impression, I kind of felt this a little bit, that it felt like it was too high budget.

1:23:50Like sometimes I want my comedies to be a little bit low budget and campy and use physical comedy more than special effects and explosions and races and things like that. I did kind of have the thought when I was watching it, I was like, this feels like too Hollywood. Too glossy. Yeah, this feels too big. Interesting. and I think sometimes comedies hit harder when they're low budget when it feels like friends making it in the backyard right which like Happy Gilmore feels a little bit more ragtag like there's the only special effects in that is like the ball like the long drives I mean it's also it's like a movie about golfers this one had to be higher budget I guess but yes because if the racing looked really bad in this movie I don't know if it works as well

1:24:33Danny Heifetz:it's good that they went to the places and filmed everything yeah I agree with that That was just a thought I had when I was watching. I was like, this feels very like Hollywood. I agree. I mean, it touches on something. I find that we over rely on CGI to convey humor now. Like Blockers is a great example. It started to like, when they were doing things that weren't humanly possible or that clearly looked fake, where it was like, or I remember in Neighbors, was it Neighbors 2? When like Seth Rogen is sitting on the chair and the chair explodes and he hits the ceiling. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it looked so fake.

1:25:07Yeah. And I'm almost like, I'd rather it be, I'd rather you just find a different joke that you can film practically than use CGI to like deliver something that feels hollow.

1:25:14Danny Heifetz:I was saying this the other day on this trip while we were in Los Angeles, I was saying, I think that the spaceship in the beginning of Star Wars and in Space Odyssey looks better now than the spaceship at the beginning of like Avengers. Those are like miniatures that they filmed in real life versus just on a computer. I agree with you. I'm trying to think of if there's, if there's, I'm sure there are bad examples where I'm completely wrong on that take. But like for the most part, I feel like I like when comedies feel a little bit more just grounded in the dialogue and reality versus like the action.

1:25:45Yeah. I mean, honestly, you can extend that beyond comedy now. Yeah. Everything feels like it's filmed inside of an Airbnb now or like super CGI'd and everything is touched up in the background. Everything's like really bright. Nothing feels as lived in anymore. A lot of the streaming movies just like don't look real. And I think it's why I love movies and TV shows from the 90s in the early 2000s because it's like, and I watched Superbad. I'm like, I feel like I'm there at a normal high school and this looks like how it would look. And now if you filmed a high school movie, it would just like look too shiny and not real.

1:26:15Yeah. So I do agree with you. Casting what ifs. Couple good ones. For Cal Naughton, it was not supposed to be John C. Reilly who, you mentioned this earlier. I did not know this. John C. Reilly was originally supposed to be Brick Tamlin from Anchorman. Oh, was he? Yes, and he couldn't do it because of scheduling. He would have made to probably be a funny brick.

1:26:35Danny Heifetz:I think he would. Yeah. It's crazy to think Steve. It's weird to think of anyone other than Steve Krell doing it, but John C. Reilly. What was the internet character that John C. Reilly played where he was the doctor? He's like, for your health. And he was always drunk on wine and stuff. Do you know what I'm talking about? Oh, vaguely. There was like a whole series about it. I want to say it was, I can't remember where it was based. Like a Tim and Eric maybe? I think it was Tim and Eric. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good call. But that blew my mind. I mean, I kind of can't, it can't not be Steve Carell now in the Brick role.

1:27:07Danny Heifetz:But even the funniest Brick lines are actually like, Brick killed the guy with the trident. Will Ferrell's saying that. You know what I mean? Other than I love Lamp, the actual funniest things about Brick are said about Brick. Yeah. Up for the role of Cal Naughton, Jack Black, Billy Crystal, and Dennis Quaid. That feels weird to me. Dennis Quaid and Billy Crystal, I would like to say no to. Jack Black, I could see. Jack Black, I think, would have been funny in it. I think he's too silly and big. John C. Reilly is really good at letting Will Ferrell be the winner. I mean, literally like what Cal Naughton is good at doing, John C.

1:27:39Reilly is good at. Right, right. It's meta. Jack Black, I think, would steal too much thunder.

1:27:44Danny Heifetz:Yeah. You're my best friend. I love you. What? Nothing. But Jack Black, I get it. I understand why that was being considered. Yeah. And then for Jean Girard, Michael J. Fox, Seth Green, and John Stamos. John Stamos? Yeah. 2006 John Stamos Seth Green? Seth Green is a disaster I don't know That one wouldn't have worked I don't think Michael J. Fox also feels very weird John Stamos I could kind of see Yeah I could see that too Yeah The good looking slick back hair the French you know thing I feel like that would play Yeah I assume they knew Borat was happening when they decided to cast him in this It's a good question I don't know because I don't know how long it took to film I mean I imagine this took much longer to film than Borat Borat came out three months after this movie He was doing Borat bits for a long time before.

1:28:32I was going to say, Borat had to have taken longer than this. He had a whole show. We had the Ali G show. The Ali G show, yeah. So he'd been doing the Borat thing for a while before the movie came out. So people knew about it. Yeah, but he was more of like a, that show was popular in the UK more. Yeah, he was sort of like an up-and-coming comic at that point, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. David Caruso stuff of, I'm doing my own flex category, which Bill never does, but I'm taking over. the David Caruso Stuff of Legends Award for the character who definitely should have been spun off into their own sequel.

1:29:02Reese Bobby could have a whole damn movie around him. the backstory with Reese Bobby where he's like mixed up with the Colombian cartel and doing God knows what. Yeah. He's like running drugs over the border in a car or something. Yeah, he's drug running. He's doing street racing. He's like knocking women up. I want to know how many kids. Does he have like 12 kids? Can we get it in like a real serious prestige TV style though where it's not funny? It's just him doing serious shit. Yeah. Like, I would love if he had like 12 children, I want him like going to each one and trying to ingratiate himself into their family.

1:29:34I love when Ricky first goes to see him or when he delivers the pizza when Reese keeps ordering pizza so he delivers it and he goes, close the door. Close the door and come in. I got weed in here, cowboy. He punches him in the face and is like, son,

1:29:47Danny Heifetz:did this go well? The first thing he says is, how long has it been? Three, four months? Ten years. Ten years? I got to lay off the peyote. Peyote. Come in here and close the door. I got weed in here, cowboy. At the end of the movie, he's like, I'm starting to get a little itchy. I'm starting to get a little itchy. The Applebee's waiter? He's so mean to her. I said, no onions. I think you did that on purpose. Okay, the Joey Pants Award. Best that guy. This will be interesting because typically I have differing opinions than the host of the show. That is my true quibble with this podcast. is just...

1:30:24Danny Heifetz:I try to fight for it. The standard is insane of like knowing people's names. Ridiculously high bar. I kind of think for regular people who watch movies, the ultimate that guy is actually Gary Cole where it's like he's the guy in Veep and also he's Ricky Bobby's dad and most people don't know his name Gary Cole but I know that that somewhere Bill was just serious about that. What else was he in? He was in a bunch of stuff. A bunch of stuff. He was Lumberg and fucking Office Space. Shit, Lumberg fucked her.

1:30:54I think beginner level, it's Gary Cole. Yeah, okay. I think if you want to go expert level, to me, it's Ted Manson as Chip. Oh. I do not know that guy's name. But if I see that guy, I go, oh, that guy from Talladega, Grandpa from Talladega Nights.

1:31:08Danny Heifetz:Yes. I don't think anyone knows his name. And then the middle level is the guy who's on the race crew that's also in Forgetting Sarah Marshall. David Koechner? What are you talking about? He's the one that gets all squirrely when the jazz music comes on. No, not David Kichter. No. I went with Ian Roberts, who is the getter a coffin line. Sure. Which is like just so random. He is, by the way, the literal doctor from Arrested Development. Oh, right. That guy. That is a great call. He's going to be all right. Ah, I hate this doctor. I'll kill this doctor. It looks like he's dead. That is a great call.

1:31:47I'm sure Bill, Chris, and Sean will be mad at the Gary Cole selection. Yes. Well, I'm sorry. I know he's Gary Cole, but I do think... No one's like, that guy? Oh, obviously Gary Cole.

1:31:56Danny Heifetz:Jack McRae, who's, I think, he's also in 30 Rock, but I'm like, do people know that guy's name? Kenneth from 30 Rock? Yeah, exactly. I would argue that Larry Dennett, the guy who plays the Sun, that guy's a bad guy. Yeah. His name's Greg Gurman. I'm sure people would be like, no, of course. To me, that's a bad guy. Anyway, all right. This is the most important category of the show because this is a real, like, five-headed race. Dion Waiter's award we have Molly Shannon who is in like two or three scenes crushes every single one of them she's always drunk she's like tenderly touching the guy from Halliburton's face I love gives him a kiss on the mouth I love right before that right before that when she's like you won't let me see you naked to her husband and just under his breath right before the executives walk in he goes it's not a fear thing it's a trust thing it's so good you're afraid of letting me see you naked it's not a fear thing It's a trust thing.

1:32:50I think Amy Adams definitely qualifies. Oh, yeah. Do not think she's in the movie that much. The speech is iconic. Yeah. Grandpa Chip in the mix here. What was the line he said? I'd forgotten he made this line. It was like, the mouse is fast, but the owl can see at night. And then he like laughed at him. I can't remember what the exact one. The field mouse is fast. I don't think Gary Cole qualifies.

1:33:17Danny Heifetz:This was going to be my question. I think Reese Bobby is in it too much. Here's my thing with him. I forgot until prepping for the show that he comes, like Reese, it's weird. He starts the game, which maybe is bad for the Dion Waiters Award. Yeah. But he starts the game on a 12-0 run. The first 15 jokes of this movie are just Gary Cole. Literally, he does, and maybe it's too much for Dion Waiters, but Gary Cole comes in and says, 10 years, I got to lay off the peyote. No smoking here. He's like, don't worry, darling, I'm a volunteer fireman. In front of the five-year-olds, he's like, I'm a semi-professional race car driver and an amateur tattoo artist.

1:33:55Danny Heifetz:Fastest who gets paid and the fastest who gets laid. And if you ain't first, you're last. That's the first four minutes of the movie. All of that is in the same scene, and then he leaves for an hour. I also love that every time he gets kicked out of places, he's always resisting. He's got like, we were so made scary. I'm a veteran. I'm a diabetic. He's just screaming at me. I'm a veteran. I'm a veteran. He's getting kicked out of the elementary school. And then he gets to the car. He puts his two feet up in the door jam. It's always the two feet pinned against the door. Then he pulls away. He's like, see you when you're growing up.

1:34:26Danny Heifetz:But then he's gone for like a full hour. I think it's too much. I think he's too important of a character. It's like in The Godfather. You know, Vito Corleone is not in the movie that much, but he can't be the young ladies. If we're calling Reese the godfather of Talladega Nights, then I'll take that. I'm just saying run time. you might be right, but I think he's just, he's too important of a role. So I would also give you Michael Clark Duncan, rest in peace, who is awesome in this movie. Our sponsors will shit a chicken. That's great. And then really many one, I did not know this until doing the research.

1:35:02The original driver for Dennett Racing at the start of the movie, Terry Chaveau, is Adam McKay? Yeah, yeah. I was going to bring that up. I did not know that. He's like, hold on, I got to take a piss. I think he is so funny. I was going to be like, who is this guy? He's great. it doesn't matter Lucius we're in last place relax jeez I gotta take a wig get off my ass that is so fucking funny you gotta check these burgers are really good he goes I'm gonna make a phone call let me eat this then I gotta make a phone call and then I'll be back him being like I gotta make a phone call let me eat this during a race I think he crushes it and is the definition of like one scene yeah but do you think it's Molly Shannon I think it's Molly Shannon I think so okay she's fucking great I agree Molly Shannon All right, recasting couch director of city.

1:35:48I don't have anything. I would not recast the director. I would not recast any of the actors, I don't think. Maybe small stuff. And then the city, it's like, this is mostly filmed in North Carolina and they're on actual racetracks. I don't have a ton here. Christopher Nolan apparently loves this movie. He does. He just said that. So, remake? That's interesting. Like a remake where you can't hear anything? Like, reboot it into a very serious... You know how the old Batman movies were, like, campy and whatever? Oh, he Dark Nights it. And then he Dark Knighted it. Dark Knight Talladega Nights. He should do Days of Thunder 2.

1:36:22Talladega Dark Knight. There we go. I think that would be fun. Days of Thunder 2 directed by Christopher Nolan starring Tom Cruise. That would do well. Sign me up. I agree. Like, the cast is kind of perfect. I would like to see Tim Robinson do something like this, but that...

1:36:38Danny Heifetz:The only person that I felt like could go... And Sam Richardson. he'd maybe be Cal yeah the only person that I was like watching this movie and was like could they go toe to toe with Will Ferrell or was like I kind of was wondering if Danny McBride could try either role yeah but I don't really want to change it I feel like he was like so from that era though that it doesn't it's like too close you could have swapped Danny McBride maybe for John C. Reilly but I don't I don't need to change I think everyone's kind of crushing it Half-Assed Internet Research we talked about a few things shot in North Carolina mostly they got a lot of real life tidbits from NASCAR drivers and commentators some of which are in the movie like Earnhardt's in the movie.

1:37:13I mentioned that John C. Reilly was in both Days of Thunder and this movie. Sony did not actually charge... Sony, the studio that made the movie, did not charge brands like Wonder Bread, Old Spice, or Perrier to feature their products in the movie. What? Yeah.

1:37:27Danny Heifetz:Okay, so that was going to be my unanswerable question is how much did they pay? And you're telling me that they paid nothing. Didn't charge. How does that work? I actually don't know and I wonder... I don't think that would be the case today. What do you mean that they just put... Because here's why that's funny to me. Wonder Bread's in every fucking scene in this movie there are times where there are 12 logos at the same time in Wonder Bread and they just got that for free yeah and then the brands promoted it apparently which obviously I get but yeah that's shocking a special time I don't know things were different in 06 I guess I don't even know it's not like it was 1974 so Budweiser is just everywhere and they're not paying a dollar for that yeah alright that shocks me alright so stepping on it on that.

1:38:09Danny Heifetz:One of my probably unanswerable questions was, is this the most product placement ever in a movie? Ooh. That's a good question. I mean, NASCAR, part of NASCAR is branding. It's all sponsorships. It's all sponsorships. All the teams are sponsored. I think the answer is probably yes. You know, it's hard to make those claims. I mean, there's the Wayne's World joke about all the sponsors. The Wayne's World joke is kind of condensed to one scene, really. But this movie, it's ever-present. I'm just shocked that it was free. I guess they felt that they would have to, like, give up creative control for that much brand.

1:38:39Danny Heifetz:I just assume. You guys have any other half-assed internet research? Will Ferrell's dad played sax and keyboards with the Righteous Brothers for like 20 years. He has a song that's in this movie. Very cool. His name is Roy Lee Ferrell which is a great name. Kind of like a feels like it's made up for this movie. The other thing that I thought was funny is there was an ESPN article from 2016, Ryan McGee, and he talked about how Will Ferrell and all the guys from the movie got like a test drive on the track to start out. And they were going like 70 or something, like not very fast relative to what these guys are doing.

1:39:22And they were like terrified. And then when they did the scene where Will Ferrell is trying to come back, he's going like 26 miles an hour. He was like, that was like kind of an homage to that. He said that was like literally what happened. But yeah, the cars went by. Were those the other cars?

1:39:38Danny Heifetz:What was that? What was that? But no, apparently what happened. So they booked this place. I think I forget if it was Talladega or probably Charlotte Speedway. And it was like Richard Dent Training Academy. And they took him there and they had that book for three hours. And then John and then Will Ferrell did a run for 60 seconds and came back and was silent and white as a ghost. Do you know how hard it is to get Will Ferrell to say nothing? and then John C. Reilly got in the car for 60 seconds and they came back and he said nothing. And they're like, we're going to go. And they left. And Adam McKay is like, we have two hours and 53 minutes left here.

1:40:13Danny Heifetz:And they got to the car and John C. Reilly was like, we can't beat pussies. We literally, during a race car movie, we have to drive a race car. And then they begrudgingly went back. They wanted to leave. NASCAR is a sport I would say I'm the least interested in participating in. Sure. If somebody was like, you want to hop in a fucking race car? I'd be like, I think I'm good. I don't want to do that. Yeah. Any other research? The other one that I thought was funny when I saw this was Gary Cole and Jane Lynch, who are Ricky Bobby's parents in the movie. They are 11 and 7 years older than Will Ferrell in real life, which I love.

1:40:47Also, this is super random. I just forgot to talk about it earlier, but the line where Jane Lynch is recounting his conception, and he's like, it was like in some Texas roadhouse bathroom. Rustler's Steakhouse Rustler's Steakhouse ladies room he chose me and then Will Ferrell Will Ferrell goes a ladies room I just thought that was such a good line I love a ladies room Jane Lynch we didn't talk about her a lot but she's awesome she's always good I've always liked Jane Lynch

1:41:16Danny Heifetz:she's fantastic in this movie but even little things that you talk let's talk about lines that you like forget and then you rewatch it later it's like the little second scene like the baby's born and she said I'm gonna go get in some milk and cry I'll be right back the other half-accident research is the gray scene, the dinner scene, took a whole day. And apparently, Will Ferrell's feeding lines to the kids. And multiple shots were ruined. And obviously, the camera operator, I assume, is not always calling cut. The camera operator had to say cut because he was laughing so hard. He was shaking the camera because he couldn't contain himself.

1:41:49The kids are really good. They got really lucky because you never know with kid actors, both of them nail it. There's the... I love the McKay style. I know we kind of talked about this, but where they're doing like just like 10 cuts 20 cuts like right in a row just like feeding them lines and stuff there's a famous uh blooper reel from anchorman where they're talking about uh will ferrell and paul rudd are talking about what breast implants are made out of and they're like just riffing and and whatever and then in the background so they're like yeah it's apparently made from like cottage cheese or whatever they say a few different things and then he's like you can see paul rudd's trying to think or something in the background you can just hear Adam McKay go nickels and then they like try and get through the scene by saying nickels and it's just like I'm like that being on the set with that group of people would have been like experience like Michelangelo painting or whatever that

1:42:42Danny Heifetz:should be the hottest take is they should there should fuck the Zack Snyder cut there should be McKay cuts like would you not want to watch like this this seven hour cuts of all these movies should be released. And it's been 20 years later. Yeah, I mean, another mini hot take is sometimes I like watching the bloopers just as much as I do. Oh, 100%. Oh, yeah. If you're ever in a bad mood, just put on bloopers from Anchorman or whatever. I think Bill's talked about this before, but like, there needs to be a 2B channel that's just bloopers. I'd watch that. Yeah, 100%. The amount of times I'll just like Google the office bloopers or always sunny bloopers or something, it's amazing.

1:43:12The darkness is creeping toward you. Whether you know it or not. Body's so good, you're going to want to talk to it. Oh, God. There's just so many quotes. Real simple, son. Also, Colombian Bam Bam. There's a kilo of Colombian Bam Bam under the car. Time to be a man. Apex Mountain. Will Ferrell. It's right around here. I feel like yes, right? Well, I think Step Brothers. I think you could argue it could be Elf. It was just after SNL and Elf was massive. And then it was like, okay, Will Ferrell's now. But this movie was huge. Stepbrother was huge. It's like 04 to 08. Right. It's hard to say exactly whether it's like this Stepbrothers or Elf.

1:43:58Do you think this movie is bigger than Stepbrothers? Like from a... Not necessarily like how much money it made, but just from a cultural... where it stands? I do. Okay. Oh, interesting. I'm not sure. I think Talladega is bigger than Stepbrothers culturally. But Elf, I think, is the biggest movie he's...

1:44:17Danny Heifetz:Like commercially? Yes. But coming off... I just... I don't know I mean this movie Omega's Elf made more money I don't know I'm not going to sit here and pretend to know exactly how Apex Mountain works but I just feel like off this the whole point is Will Ferrell again they literally pitched this on six lines on six words Will Ferrell drives a NASCAR is a NASCAR racer isn't that like the premise of Apex Mountain he had so much juice they're just like done blank check isn't that like the hypothetical question Bill always asks and like that's the literal story of this movie that's pretty good yeah but you can argue he can only do that because of what he did before.

1:44:51Danny Heifetz:But yeah. Like, you know what I mean? So this movie is because of his Apex Mountain. He gets this movie? Kind of. Fucking A. So, goddammit. Well, because this is coming off of Anchorman. And then he's like... But then this made a lot of money. He doesn't have Anchorman in back-to-back years. But didn't this make more money than Anchorman at the box office? It did. I also assumed that this had made a ton of money on the sponsors, and I guess that throws me off. I assumed the box office was way undercounting. I assume that there was like 50 million more dollars from Wonder Bread and Budweiser and all these other sponsors.

1:45:22It's hard to tell. He comes out of SNL. He does old school elf and anchorman. And so you could argue it's right then. But then I guess he does Talladega Nights. And then two years later, he does Step Brothers. Maybe it is Talladega Nights. The point is the two year window is probably right here. John C. Reilly. I would say yes, because I believe this movie greenlit him getting his own star role in a movie, which is Walk Hard. and he never really had that again. And although he's had a great career, he's done amazing good movies, Boogie Nights, he's been in a bunch of stuff. But doing this and then getting your own lead comedy role, I think it's got to be now.

1:45:58Danny Heifetz:Yeah. I could see that. NASCAR movies? This came out the same year as Cars. Right. You could argue 2006 was the apex for NASCAR. Oh, easily. I was just going to say NASCAR. See, that I have less of a sense on. I don't think we're qualified to answer that, but I do think the NASCAR movies is true. It's got to be. I read that this is like, who knows? I don't, I'm not a close follower of NASCAR. I don't know where it is like right now, but I read that viewership peaked in 2006 of NASCAR. It was number two to the NFL in terms of live watching at that time. Number two to the NFL. Wow. And I don't think it's, I don't think that it's at that point anymore.

1:46:37And then we got F1 kind of coming in and stealing some of its thunder.

1:46:41Danny Heifetz:It's a lot like Premier League coming in and people are gravitating toward that. But I do think NASCAR and maybe NASCAR the viewership, but NASCAR movies for sure. Because the other reason, the other thing that stands out on a rewatch is how few drivers are in the movie. You have Dale Earnhardt Jr. for literally about five seconds, maybe ten. Like it was a metamoment. Don't tell the other driver. Yeah, but like that was, it was very real because NASCAR was very, it was kind of a risk for them to allow this. Because they were very much like, are you making fun of us? Are we in on the joke? Are you laughing at us or with us?

1:47:10Danny Heifetz:And it worked. but I feel like everyone was, all the drivers basically were like, we don't want to be part of this. We're afraid we'll be like, maybe the sponsors also. That might've been why they didn't have sponsors that paid is because I think a lot of the sponsors for the real cars were concerned that it was going to be bad for their image or whatever. Yeah, I think back in the day, it felt like sports leagues were more open to letting their likeness be involved. Now, you don't see it as much, but like, you know, you watch Ace Ventura, the Dolphins are like, sure. Yeah, the NFL today would never.

1:47:41No. Yeah. It doesn't happen as much now. Amy Adams, no. Sacha Baron Cohen? I mean, it has to be. I mean, Borat three months later. It has to be Apex Mountain. It's right now. Yeah.

1:47:52Danny Heifetz:It's literally three months later for Borat. It's probably after Borat comes out, but this year for sure. Yeah. I mean, Talladega and Borat in the same four-month period is pretty crazy. It's crazy. I was going to say Shake and Bake. Got to be Apex Mountain for Shake and Bake. I thought about that. Are you talking about the product? or the well I looked it up like apparently Shake and Bake has exploded in the last like 10 years really? you're trying to tell me that Shake and Bake Apex Mountains I wrote down Shake and Bake but then I was trying to figure out like just sales by year and apparently it's just gone up a lot in the last like 10 years no it's what do you tell come on I'm open to that it's one of the most iconic phrases of a really popular movie it's not now have you ever eaten Shake and Bake chicken or whatever I don't think so I'm not like I'm just saying I looked it up if you smell a nice crispy delicious smell after this podcast it's not your tailpipes a little bit of shake I love what he does in the oven and bang put it in the oven open the oven a little bit of shake and bang and bang sideburns in movies yes or no no the American it has to be Gangs in New York Billy the Butcher he had that on he was ready for that that's the best sideburn of all time when was that?

1:49:12Danny Heifetz:yeah it was 04 listen here you meat headed shit sack don't give a fuck about your moral conundrum I don't know wow okay this is come on I don't know these sideburns everyone's got sideburns in this movie there is a lot of sideburns Craig it was a real it was a real thing that was people were doing sideburns were a thing Jack McBrayer I'm saying yes this is the first year of 30 Rock And he became Kenneth. Oh, wow. From 30 Rock. Two years later, he's in for getting Sarah Marshall, and 30 Rock's still going. You could argue it's then. Mm-hmm. Right around now. Gary Cole had a great run in Veep. He's done a lot.

1:49:49Hard to kind of pick what that would be. Jane Lynch did Glee. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And Role Models. Yeah. I forget when that was. I'd probably say Glee for Jane Lynch. I think it has to be.

1:50:01Danny Heifetz:You got any others? No, I just wanted to make sure we just acknowledged how fucking big Sacha Baron Cohen was sure in 2006 yeah Cruiser Hanks as Ricky Bobby it's gotta be Tom Hanks Tom Cruise did the NASCAR movie it's gotta be Hanks I agree I just don't think it would be funny with Tom Cruise I don't think Tom Cruise is the right fit Hanks I could actually see doing the southern he has the accent over the top like American race car driver thing like like Forrest Gump adjacent yeah yeah Forrest Gump later in life becomes a NASCAR driver. Oh, yeah. Like, he's driving the little fucking lawnmower, but actually just wants to go fast.

1:50:41With that said, if Cruz did it, he would actually drive the car. And you could probably get some insane shots of him, like, actually racing up, like, Dale Earnhardt. But it's got to be Hank's, I think. Picking knits. Look, this is a comedy about a race car driver. Sure. Hard to get too specific here with quibbles. The only thing that I think about is, like, when Ricky is down on his luck and is out of NASCAR and he has no... Isn't he still incredibly rich? Where's all his money? Cal took it. Why does he have to go deliver pizza? They literally said the number 21.6 million dollars. This year. He made 21 million dollars that year.

1:51:17I think Carly was embezzling it. It was all under her name. He had no money. I think Cal and Carly embezzled all of his money. Stole all of his money. He took his house, took his wife, and his money. Yeah. You're ruining my life. I just love that he has to go live in his mom's basement and deliver pizza three months after being the most famous driver in the world.

1:51:40Danny Heifetz:There's nobody. I love that one. Couldn't do a commercial? Never thought of that. That's funny. The other, yeah, I feel like you're not going to overthink things like the cougar in the car. Those are bits. A cougar would kill you. It would probably kill you. There's also no cougars in North Carolina. Well, we don't know where he got it from. He did. That's true. He did just say he trapped it. Been feeding an old pizza. Maybe he trapped it in a, somewhere else. I love when Ricky he comes back home after his long days like got mauled by a cougar. Ruined my shirt. Ruined my shirt. Got mauled by a cougar.

1:52:10Danny Heifetz:The only knit I'll have that actually as I watch it I'm like bothers me is the openings part with the owner the dad. They're like I love Ricky Bobby. And then they just transition and the son's running the team and they never actually acknowledged that the dad was gone. Yeah. And they never just like he's just running the team but it's also I don't think he's dead. I was like looking at it up too I was like well I assumed he dies. But he apparently doesn't. He's not dead. Like in the lore of the movie? I don't know. But I don't think he dies. It was like probably one scene that they just took out.

1:52:40And there was a continuity thing. And they just were like, it's fine. They needed like the rich spoiled son to take over. I just assumed that there was a scene they cut where he dies. I still thought it was kind of like, this is a nitpick. It's like the reason Dennett Jr. moves on from Ricky is because he refuses to win the points title. It's like, that's... It's a huge nitpick. It's like, okay. It was the only other big one I had. I'm like, Ricky's winning every race. He flipped a guy off and lost some points or whatever.

1:53:05Danny Heifetz:Scotty Scheffler's the Grand Slam, and he's not going to win the FedEx title. Ricky's also a huge dick to him. I do understand that a little bit, but it's like, okay. The only other thing with it is, this is not a knit, but it's just upon re-watching it a hundred times, I'm like, I kind of forget sometimes that the race, it's not really for anything. And Talladega doesn't have a ton to do with this movie other than just being the ending. And it's a good name. And it's a great name. And it's kind of like the joke in Seinfeld where they make the, it has to be Titleist. for Kramer hitting the golf ball, though it has to be that.

1:53:34Danny Heifetz:I'm like, Talladega, to my knowledge, NASCAR doesn't necessarily be, like, the most important race. Yeah. You know what I mean? And I don't think I ever thought about that. Like, call Talladega Nights, and I'm like, it's kind of just the next race after he has a mental breakdown. It's more personal stakes than it is actual professional stakes. Yeah, there's zero. Yes. Okay, sequel, prequel, prestige TV, all black cast are untouchable. This 100 % could have been a sequel, and I'm glad it's not, but they could have totally done it. They thought about it. McKay said they had an idea. where Ricky Bobby goes to Europe to do Formula One.

1:54:04I was going to say, that's the obvious thing, yeah. And it's like, Ricky Bobby in Europe,

1:54:07Danny Heifetz:that's funny, but... I think that still might happen solely because now they would get all the sponsors and they would get to pay, kind of like Happy Gilmore 2, like all the people you could get involved, the drivers, Michael Jordan would probably do a NASCAR cameo or you get Formula One, like a lot of people, more brands would pay to be in that. Yeah. McKay and Farrell, I don't know if they would do that together. Oh, that's true, yeah. Farrell hasn't done a ton of, like, true sequels. They did Anchorman 2. Anchorman 2. Zoolander 2 happened Daddy's Home 2 I'm glad that Farrell and McKay have not really together ever made a sequel other than Anchorman 2 because it just it just it never it usually doesn't work there are certain types of comedies like the Austin Power parody movie spoofs you can do more of like Naked Guns like comedies about you know subverting expectation you can't do it twice when you know who Ricky Bobby is it's just this is not going to be the same yeah so I would say Untouchable is this movie better with Wayne Jenkins Fergie the florist Zane Lowe Robert Evans Dr.

1:55:03Charles Nichols Ted Levine or somebody else

1:55:05Danny Heifetz:god damn Ricky I don't know I was working with Magic Man and El Diablo I was just going to throw in Tom Brady because I was like what am I going to do Zane Lowe I'm not going to do Zane Lowe and disrespect CR like that like you just did I'm trying to it's an homage I know I'm not Chris Ryan but I just I wanted him to be with us here in spirit no it's good Bernthal is aware of this show he was asked about it he knows that CR does Wayne Jenkins, which is incredible. I was just thinking, what if Tom Brady was doing the play-by-play? The play-by-play. He's like, we got a lot of juice here for Team Dennett Racing, KB.

1:55:38We are watching some high-level driving out there on the track today. Great stuff, KB. KB, it seems like he's going backward,

1:55:45Danny Heifetz:KB. I love a competitor who, I love that he's just, he's never giving up, KB. He's not on fire, KB. He looks to be on fire, but he's not. It's all mental. It's in his head. just one Oscar, who gets it? It's Will Ferrell. So I admittedly, I'm not Chris Ryan with the impressions and I'm not Sean Fennessey with the Oscars, but I had to ask you a question. Okay. So this year, so this is August 2006. Yeah, so it'll be 07 Oscars. February 07 Oscars. Was Mark Wahlberg was nominated for The Departed as a supporting actor at the Oscars. Is he actually better in The Departed than John C. Reilly is in Talladega Nights?

1:56:23Danny Heifetz:I know comedy that doesn't happen. That's the question. Of course not. There's probably, you can pick three comedies every year where somebody is putting on an incredible performance. They rarely nominate comedies. I know there's like five spots and they should do more, but I just also, I mean. But if you had to give an Oscar, you would give it to John C. Reilly in this movie, not Will Ferrell? Well, is the rule give him an Oscar in this movie or is the rule you have to pull the Oscar from that year? No, you are the Academy and you can give an Oscar to whoever you want. It can be the script. It can be cinematography.

1:56:51It can be an actor.

1:56:52Danny Heifetz:I mean, the lame answer is the sound is actually shockingly good. the NASCAR I know that's fucking lame you're overthinking it the sound you're gonna give it the sound over Will Ferrell well so you're saying I don't I I have to because who won the best actor that year it doesn't matter don't the Oscars if you can give one Oscar to anyone in this movie then it's Will Ferrell okay I thought you were asking me to pull the like the Oscar away from Forrest Whitaker the last king of Scotland I'm like okay you think he deserved that I actually I mean come on man it's a good role probably unanswerable question so kind of what happens with Cal and Carly now I know I was wondering about that Carly kind of slips away as this movie ends they kind of just like don't because like what's going to happen I'm assuming she would leave Cal for a different driver yes is that what happens I imagine so but Cal won yeah and he still has his sponsors in theory oh that's a good question but now Cal and Ricky are friends again I think they just go back and they just kind of get over it but Ricky's got a new girl you know they had sex oh that's true Ricky has Susan yeah did you now I wish I was there for that I wish I would've been there for that That's like an insight.

1:57:58That's like, I always say that shit with my friends. Oh, I wish I would have been there for that. Well, because I feel like the whole movie, there's this subtle hint that Cal kind of being into the two of them. I feel like Cal and he's like, I'll hold her hair. Yeah. And when they're making out, he's kind of into it, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So what? Carly's just out of the picture. I like to think they stay together. I think they could be a throuple. I feel like Cal would want to stay together. Yeah, 100%. But is Ricky, allow Cal to date Carly. Yeah, because he's sorry for, he felt bad for making him get second the whole time.

1:58:30Danny Heifetz:This should have been my flex category, which is the Dennis Peck relationship test. Okay. But it really, will Cal Naughton test this relationship? But no, I actually think they could be a throuple and be totally fine. What about Susan? Oh, fuck. A throuple. I feel like he should just be with, maybe they could just be, like, I think Cal stays with his wife and then Susan. They still live in the house. It's still haunted. It's all fine. That's the spinoff I want to see, by the way, a horror movie that's just about the haunted house. Get out! I think Carly's dating Dale Earnhardt in a month. Oh, yeah, probably.

1:59:00Jeff Gordon. Um, alright. My next unanswerable is does the slingshot actually work? I was gonna ask that, too. Is that real? 100%. This is the entire Tour de France. It's like you're just drafting off of them and then you go around.

1:59:13Danny Heifetz:I don't understand how that makes sense. This is how geese fly. It's like you're breaking up the air. Oh, it's how geese fly. Why don't you just say that? Obviously. I don't know how geese fly. In a V, famously. Yeah. But it's because the most effort is the person at the crook of the V. I understand that the person in the front is taking the most wind. Right. And the person behind is not receiving any wind. But the second they go outside, doesn't the wind just hit them immediately? I don't get it. I think there's a brief vacuum of air that happens for a set amount of time. Where your velocity can keep up despite moving into the tunnel of wind.

1:59:46Danny Heifetz:Famously, I'm a scientist, but think about a boat. Think about water for a second. And your boat. We're really having him explain this. Think about the wake, the disruption. And like, but that's happening in the air. Yeah, but you're, if you're behind, if you're in the wake, behind the boat, I get it. But the second you leave the wake and you're now just like everybody else, why does it shoot you so fast? And does this happen in NASCAR all the time? I don't know. I mean, this was happening in Need for Speed, so I assume, but. Let's ask someone who knows about physics, not Heifetz. I mean, Tour de France, this definitely happens.

2:00:14Danny Heifetz:My question is, why don't they do this in horse racing? Why are there no teammates, teams horses? Why can't horses work together? I mean maybe you know two running backs one should just run behind the other oh like a fullback fullback for the air you know what I mean like maybe DeAndre Swift should be behind Kyle Menungai a push push yeah that's good Justice Hill behind Derrick Henry slingshot something like that I had the same question Craig yeah slingshot engage my uh unanswerable questions I have how many people do you think have been conceived in a wrestler steakhouse bathroom okay Probably hundreds.

2:00:49The ladies room?

2:00:50Danny Heifetz:The ladies room? He chose me. I asked you before. I do wonder if it's the most product placement ever in a movie. It's a good one. I want to know where I can find the cow spread for Playgirl magazine. He said he pulled his butt cheeks apart. Mike Concho. Mike Concho. There's a world in which that's a real thing that took place. They filmed that just for fun. That photo shoot exists. Oh, 100%. I bet Adam McKay has that in his garage. Right. Just files. The lost tapes. He just got them everywhere. It's called Boogie Nights. The other unanswerable question that I do think is important is, do you think Ricky's right about the praying to baby Jesus thing?

2:01:27Danny Heifetz:I think you can pray to whichever version of Jesus you want. I agree. It's kind of a good point. Yeah. It's very open of him, actually. Yeah. He's like, your Jesus can be whatever you want it to be. This is my Jesus. Can't even think yet. Can't even think yet. Don't even know a word. Newborn baby Jesus. He was a man. I love how he's like, can you please heal my wife's father, Chip, who has a horrible, horrible leg. It smells terrible. The only thing you've ever done is make a hot daughter. The dogs are always bothering with it. Horrible leg. horrible leg the dogs are always bothering with it okay almost done here the memorabilia you'd want most I think it's gotta be the Wonder Bread hat see I had that for like Halloween so I kinda it's like 40 bucks so I kinda want something like the car this is memorabilia you get the real one the real one it's probably sweaty as hell man I don't know I think I want Will Ferrell's Crystal Gale shirt hmm I kinda want the cougar the cougar mannequin oh like the like the stuffed cougar I want both I want the real cougar like people got those it's following me real cougar first of all it's probably dead you think it's dead that's too bad that was 20 years ago what do you think happened to the car where is that car now it's probably in a back lot somewhere that's what I want you want the car the old Sunset Gower they had all these random cars from other movies parks and I was like man no one's using those I kind of want that car I want Game War and Wonder Bread suit and hat and hat I want Game War and Reese Bobby's wardrobe robe.

2:02:59He has some great clothes. He does it. You just want a six pack of the malt liquor. Hell yeah. I love when the cougar, when it's clearly this, see what you're talking about with CGI, when it's clearly the stuff cougar, it's even funnier. And they're like adding in like they're adding in like growls and stuff. It's following me.

2:03:19Mr. Miyagi Award for Best and Worst Life Lesson. I think there are two life lessons that are in conflict and we have to decide which one is the ultimate enduring lesson of this movie, which is, is it either are you first, you're the first or last, or is it you could be second, third, fourth, or fifth?

2:03:38Danny Heifetz:It's the latter. That's the point of the movie. You could be second, you could be third, you could be fourth. No, but the point of the movie is you should be winning for yourself, not for anyone else. You should do it because you love it and it's for you. I think that's the obvious lesson of the movie is you could be second or third. First or last, or you could be second, third, fourth, or fifth, which lesson would you go by? you could be second, third, fourth, or even hell, even fifth. That's loser mentality. Yeah. I kind of think it has to be the lesson of the movie's first or last. Greatness was built on first or last.

2:04:07Sure. The other lesson that I thought was very poignant in this movie is sometimes people don't change. Reese Bobby. I mean, he put out tickets for him every week, his whole life. The scalping of the tickets immediately after finally showing up is the best bit in any movie ever. 60 bucks a pop. I just want to leave that much money. Dude, it's so good. Because those seats I imagine were fantastic. Yeah, it was amazing. I believe he got some tickets for me. But then he just watches from outside the fence. Who needs tickets? Reese Bobby has great, I always admired his like hitchhiker mechanics, the thumbs.

2:04:43Oh, yeah. He's really good at it. He's a natural. He is, man.

2:04:47Danny Heifetz:Very cool. And he's just like, fucking all these balls. It looks really good and he's doing the both ways thing. Oh, it's so good. It's great. The way he's like watching from up in the behind the stands, behind the fence afterwards and like shaking his can. It's always just about empty. This is not his first rodeo. He always has like backwash left. Hey, dad, where are you going? Does it matter? You're like, oof. Yeah, kind of like unexpectedly heavy that scene for a moment. It does hit. Best double feature choice? I'm going Blades of Glory. Really? Yeah. I feel like it has to be Anchorman or Step Brothers.

2:05:20No, I want Will Ferrell playing sports. I know. The Will Ferrell playing sports thing does make sense with Blades of Glory. Yeah. I want Feral and John C. Wright. I kind of like, I think I would rather watch Anchorman and Talladega Nights together. You do Anchorman? Yeah. I think it's Anchorman. Also, Cars was released in the same year. That could be something. You could watch them together. Just the classic Cars to Talladega. Or just watch Days of Thunder. Blades of Glory is underrated. Blades of Glory is funny. The movie's good. Yeah. All right. Last but not least, who won the movie? I think it's Feral.

2:05:52Danny Heifetz:I think it has to be Will Ferrell. not Cal got to have sex with his friend's wife consequence free got his got his house like then he won at the end he won the race and he has all his sponsors no it's Farrell Farrell wins the movie yeah over McKay I mean McKay and Farrell if you could combine them you would do that but it's gotta be Farrell who's like the biggest movie star in the world basically defining comedy guy those were the days will it come back yeah god I don't know I don't really have I hope so. Okay. We need a couple things. We need like an obsession style comedy hit where it's like some movie made for five million bucks pops off.

2:06:34It'll happen. Or we need Shane Gillis and whoever to be like, screw it. We're doing a huge comedy. Por que no los dos. Yeah. Both need to happen.

2:06:44Danny Heifetz:The YouTubers are just making movies, man. This is the beginning. Yeah. There was some report about Shane Gillis doing some big comedy in the next year or two. Oh, interesting. Yeah. I saw it in The Hollywood Reporter or something like that. Well, you said your favorite movie, your favorite comedy of the last like 10 or 15 years was, what was it? The Invite? No, what was it? Well, The Invite came out this year, which I thought was an amazing movie. Really funny. Seth Rogen? Yes, but that's like more of a, that's not like a big broad comedy. It's not an ensemble comedy. No. We need like Step Brothers again.

2:07:13Things like that. This was fun. Danny Kelly.

2:07:16Danny Heifetz:We'll see if we'll be back on this show. Yeah, we'll see if we'll be back. We'll be on the fantasy show though. listen to that. This is, this is like, it's Labor Day. This episode is coming out. So, it's the same day as the Take Purge on the fantasy football feed that we do. So, check out the Take Purge, which is kind of all professional credibility is suspended for 60 minutes and we give takes that we've been holding on to all offseason. And then we'll be with you throughout the entire NFL season. Four shows a week. Four shows a week. Fantasy, the fantasy offseason is finally coming to an end.

2:07:44Wild. I know. You guys are headed back to your homes. Tad. Yeah. we spent a long time together 11 days this is the longest we've ever spent together right? I think we did this last year

2:07:55Danny Heifetz:we did we didn't do two weeks last year you were home we were traveling for two weeks is that right? you were going the entire time interesting well I've treated you to some nice dinners I'll take you to the west side tonight sure Heifetz, DK thank you we'll see you next week on the rewatch version alright thanks

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The guys say a prayer to 8-pound, 6-ounce newborn infant Jesus before rewatching Adam McKay's 2006 comedy, 'Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Bobby,' starring Will Ferrell, John C. Reilly, and Sacha Baron Cohen.

Producers: Craig Horlbeck, Chia Hao Tat, Eduardo Ocampo, and Matt Pevic

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