Actor Colin Hanks

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1:07Rich Eisen:Congratulations to you on Micah Parsons is going to be in the Dallas Cowboys lineup on opening night. Now here's pressure. You know who said it? The head coach of the Dallas Cowboys. We feel like Micah's going to be out there when we're going to line up against Philadelphia. Live from the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles. Today's guests. actor Colin Hanks, Super Bowl champion linebacker Jonathan Vilma, Cardinal safety Buda Baker. And now, it's Rich Eisen. All right, everybody. Welcome to this edition of the Rich Eisen Show. We're live on the Roku Sports Channel. We're live on this Rich Eisen Show terrestrial radio affiliate.

1:49Rich Eisen:Smart enough to have us on the Infinity Sports Network. We are live on Odyssey. We're live on Sirius XM. We are live on everything that you need to take us in. YouTube.com slash Rich Eisen Show is also a nice backstop. Same thing with all three hours of this show available on our podcast. So much going on in this world of sports. We're going to cover it for three hours. We're going to have some fun with Colin Hanks joining us in 20 minutes time. He's been on the show for well over a decade. The first time he came on, we had a good time with him because he said he and his dad, when they watch football games together.

2:25Rich Eisen:They look at a head coach on the sideline and they wonder what sort of stepdad that person would be. They call it the stepfather game. Colin played that the first time he was here. We've got six more head coaches for him in the National Football League. And he's going to have some fun with that concept when he comes in in support of Nobody 2, which is in theaters near you. And we also have on this program, Buda Baker of the Arizona Cardinals is going to join this program as well. That's an hour number three for all of us. And you at 844-204-H being the number to dial. Chris Brockman is still in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, for his fantasy football draft, because it definitely needs to be two days.

3:11Rich Eisen:And so he's there. Suze was sitting in for him yesterday, but today sitting in that place is somebody who Susie helped create ladies and gentlemen my youngest son my 14 year old Cooper Isen today how are you Cooper I'm great how are you it's okay you're okay over there yeah I'm great okay very good he's feeling good in the neighborhood Cooper Evan Eisen is sitting in that chair today Coop you ready for what's more likely that Chris has provided you do you have the information in front of you um yes i do and i have learned from my mistake about that one more thing okay you have one more i did not know this so we can see listen it's called it's called repetition is the key to learning and you can improve upon it so we'll see it was a mistake but you do have what get ready for your one more later on okay we need one more Good to see you, Mike Dutton.

4:10Rich Eisen:How are you? I'll take care of Coop. I know you will. TJ Jefferson, candles lit over there. What's going on, sir? Well, candles lit is I'm feeling old. Like five years ago, you put me in this chair and Coop came over and we were talking and he was this tall. Yeah. Now today, I think I've only got about a quarter of an inch on it. I know. I don't like it. Coop, are you 6 '2 yet? I don't think so. You're 6 '1 for sure. I mean, we're going to find out on the other front. So good to see you over there, everybody. It's going to be a fun program here today on the show. Listen, yesterday we started the program by me congratulating you, T.J.

4:51Rich Eisen:Jefferson, on the Dallas Cowboys getting Micah Parsons back because the head coach, Brian Schottenheimer, said he fully expects him back. He's marvelous. Yeah. And as it turns out, that might be, what's the words for it? Cock-eyed optimism. Premature. Tonight, as soon as I'm done with this program, I'm heading over to NFL Network to host the evening's coverage of one big large Friday of preseason football, week number three. And on NFL Network this evening, the Falcons at the Dallas Cowboys. Yep. And in advance of that, Jerry Jones went on a little media tour with people he adores, Michael Irvin for his podcast and Stephen A.

5:36Rich Eisen:Smith for his show. and he said some things yeah micah as you know hasn't said anything radio silence well he's he's speaking with his twitter account but we'll get to that in a second first things first as we all know um clarence hill the man who's been covering this team the longest currently on the beat he told us about a month and a half ago that jerry and micah met with one another and had a talk over his contract that jerry considered a full-on negotiation and micah did not and jerry considered it a fully baked negotiation that once micah said talk to my agent jerry balked and never reached out to his agent and to this day has not had a conversation with David Muligeta who is a uh an agent of note uh yeah yeah and um sure enough as much as you think that a man in his early 80s having a conversation with a guy who is 26 about dollars and cents and structure and everything, as much as you think that that sounds a little bit nutty to consider that a fully baked negotiation, you're not Jerry Jones, and he is, and he's in charge, and it appears this is, in fact, the major sticking point in this negotiation.

7:17Rich Eisen:Certainly the way he told it to Michael Irvin and how he considered the agent's rebuffing of the notion that this was a fully baked negotiation between the owner and player, minus the representation, how he's, I guess he termed the way the agent informed Jerry that that's kind of null and void. I'll drop this one thing on you because this is, I remember. We wanted to send the details to the agent. The agent told us to stick it up. Oh, wait, wait, wait. Wait, now, see, I was trying. Just so you're clear. Wait, wait, wait. What do you mean? So, so wait, wait. What do you mean? Because people are going to ask.

8:02Rich Eisen:Mike and I talked. Mike and I talked. Yeah, Mike and I talked. And then we were going to send it over to the agent. And we had our agreements on term, amount, guarantees, everything. We were going to send it over to the agent. And the agent said, don't bother because we've got all that to negotiate. Well, I'd already negotiated. I'd already moved off my mark on several areas. And so the issue, very frankly, is we've had the negotiation in my mind. And the agent's trying to get his nose in it right now and try to come in there and improve off the mark that we'd already set. Well, we've got this thing resolved in my mind for the Dallas Cowboys.

8:51Rich Eisen:And we've got it done. And if the agent wants to finish up the detail, which is should, and do all the paperwork. And he can do that. And we're ready to go. But as far as the amount of money, the years, the guarantees, all of that, we'd negotiate that. Now, I mean, how does one talk about this? certainly when you're talking to a large audience like we do every single day here, including in studio, my 14-year-old son, we bleeped out the word ass, Cooper, because any time it's mentioned in a sentence that includes an assumption that something is being inserted, you've got to bleep it. You know, when you put something up or in.

9:38Rich Eisen:You can just say it, but you can't have any. So the reason why, though, I'm lingering on this, much to the chagrin of Cooper, who's not saying anything right now, because he doesn't know what to say. Exactly. Thank you. Can confirm. Yes. is because that's the most important line in the whole shebang because that's the way Jerry has interpreted the agent saying, listen, just because you spoke to my client does not mean this is binding in any way, shape, or form, and that these are the terms that we now, as a group, my team, Micah Parsons, must abide by. And he's viewing that statement as stick it up your...

10:24Keister?

10:25Rich Eisen:Hi, Dan. Right? Yeah. So how do you get past that if he's the one who's going to have to make this negotiation happen?

10:39Rich Eisen:And he feels he's already made it happen. Yeah. as it was evident again the way that he termed this to Stephen A. Smith when Micah Parsons brought his agent in, he's basically making it, he's infantilizing Micah Parsons with this analogy, bringing in mommy and daddy to the equation. hear it in it the spirit of not doing the old mother dad deal how many times have you seen the little rascal so clever go in there and mama told him uh-uh you're not going to get it and goes in to daddy who only sees him at after five and a half noon wants to love him and says you can have it son you can have that before dinner and he goes back in and says mama daddy said i could have it That's the old mom dad been around since the beginning of time.

11:42I'm not gonna go for that here That's what's happening You're not going for it. I'm not going for it. No, no, but we've had a very very strong negotiation now by the way Frankly it wouldn't have made any difference what the negotiation was Guess who has to be comfortable for this to work? Micah. And who else? You. Hello. There's not room for a third. There's not room for a third. This will be a good one.

12:19Rich Eisen:Now, Cooper, the reason why we bleeped out that word. Okay, we get it.

12:25Rich Eisen:And also, Coop, The Little Rascals is a television show that Mike Del Tufo and I used to watch in New York City. Did you watch The Little Rascals? Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. It was, I looked it up, originally a collection of short movies involving a bunch of kids from 1922 to 1944. So before you were born. For all of us. Yeah, even me. So for anybody who's one who read that references. I'm old. and so he considers Micah now wanting something else and he's running to the authority another authority in his life yeah we did that I did that this guy's not making a deal no no and he's putting that out there and which is why Florio who's come on this show from pro football talk and has posted about it thinks he's just gonna say I'll take Micah Parsons and his dozen sacks and his awesomeness for almost half of what Miles Garrett is going to get paid because he's under contract for it and I don't have to add another dime to it even though I did add many more dimes to it and even improve the offer after Micah came back and asked for it which led him to believe that this was a negotiation

13:54Rich Eisen:and so i mean i guess micah has learned in the future although i don't know if he does find a different place of business um and i imagine he you know at some point in time might have another negotiation in his career that might not involve jerry jones uh but he's kind of learned the minute this starts bring your agent in and don't go and say to jerry hey i've got uh i've got this i got that and then jerry's gonna improve it so he now thinks this is something even though again i come at it from a point of view of would i ever have a negotiation myself with um one of my superiors who is trying to negotiate a contract?

14:42Rich Eisen:No. Have I gone into a superior and say, once the negotiation has reached a brick wall, hey, can you get this past the goal line? I have done that. I have done that. That's different. But I will say that once that negotiation occurred, once I went into the authority and said, can you move this past the goal line? and this individual says to me, this is what I'm going to do, I'll do something, and it comes back through a third party, this is what's going to be done, there is no more negotiation. That's it. So I can see what Jerry's point of view is. Other than the fact, though, I cannot imagine, again, somebody who owns the Dallas Cowboys and has been in this business so long and is so remarkably successful at it that he's got a bust and a jacket can look and think a 26-year-old is doing his own deal right here, and this is the end of that.

15:44Rich Eisen:And I'm going to hand this off to the agent so they can dot some I's and cross some T's and go over the fine print. But everything else is handled. Like Micah's going to understand what a third-year guarantee means for injury and all this sort of stuff, and what a fourth-year this is, and how much money you're going to get up front. I don't know. And if Micah did go to Jerry and say, I want to improve this, I want to improve that, was that coming from his agent? Where did that come up? Well, he had a number, right? But the whole thing is, like, there's no other team that does it this way. No other team does it this way.

16:19Rich Eisen:You don't hear anything about this. You're not hearing from Mike Brown. We already made a deal with Trey Hendrickson. I'm not improving it. You don't hear from the front office management about what's going on with Terry McLaurin. This is just, it's Jerry's world, man. And Micah's response is to hold in, demand a trade, and now I guess his last move without holding out is removing all things Dallas Cowboys from his social media handles. That's the... And, you know, and then post stuff of him kissing goodbye, like making the kiss goodbye thing with... TBD. I mean... Oof. Oof. I don't know. You know, watching the Netflix special, right, you go back and you kind of, if you didn't know these things about Jerry, you learned them or you relearned them.

17:18Rich Eisen:And he pretty much stands on business, Rich. And once I heard him say I had a number and then I moved on from my number, kind of made me go, all right, this is. But you can't balk at the fact that the agent is just like, what are you doing? This is not the way it's done in the National Football League. I don't care if you had this negotiation with my client. And for him to say that, you know, it all has to be comfortable is my client is comfortable and I'm comfortable. There is no room for a third. The only way the client is comfortable, speaking as someone who has been a client, is when my representative says, I'm comfortable.

17:57Rich Eisen:You should be comfortable with this. And your representation that you have, and I have that, in the Jerry and Ryan Agents to the Stars is whenever I have a contract, I'm like, are you fine with it? And they're like, yeah. And I'm like, this is what I'm not fine with. And I want a representative to basically say, you're not going to get that. Move on. Yeah. And that's the way it goes. And everybody I've ever negotiated understands that I'm going to be bringing an agent into this. Exactly. And so for Jerry to sit here and go, I'm now offended that the kid that I'm willing to make the highest paid player in the position is now bringing an agent to take a few more million out of my pocket shouldn't come as a surprise.

18:52Rich Eisen:It should be like, oh, okay. I try to slip that one past the Parsons goalie. I know it's not going to work because Micah is one of the best in the business. And this is what the resetting of the market's going to cost. And I could have gotten it done maybe a little bit sooner. I wouldn't be in this position. He's not thinking that way. And he's getting more set in his ways, it appears. I mean, it's hard really to make a comparison, Rich, when we don't know Micah's side of the story either. We don't know what the numbers were. We don't know what was discussed. I get it. But Micah's side of the story is going to be this.

19:31Rich Eisen:Because it doesn't really matter right now what the Micah's side of the story is. Because it just makes sense that, again, you're a 26-year-old. The owner sits you down. You're going to be like, okay, let me talk. For sure. This could be easy. Oh, what, that's a number? That's a great number. Okay. We call my agent. And the agent's like, what are you doing? And then you go in and say, Jerry, I know this is, you know, you want to hear it, but can you talk to my agent, please? And he didn't think it was that provocative an act. But, again, we're assuming. Yeah. The side of the story for Mike is now is you're going to play for$24 million or you're going to sit out.

20:11Rich Eisen:Because that's the way it appears that Jerry's stance is going to be right now and he's not going to be like blinking. And the only way to make Jerry potentially blink on that is to sit at home on Thursday night's kickoff, September 4th. and you don't get on that plane of Philadelphia, and you let them play a game without you, and you go 0-1, and then you have the Giants come into your house. Maybe 0-2.

20:40Rich Eisen:And then you see what's what. Because Emmitt did that. Yep. And so I don't have an answer. A little bit different, though. Emmitt did not have a contract. No, I understand that. so i understand that it's all different different times different eras but man i'm i know i've been sitting here saying mike is going to be there but um this sounds like a very very very resolute jerry jones who considers something that's already been handled and an agent saying that's not binding or that's null and void. I don't know if the agent really did tell him to stick it somewhere. That's the way he's viewing it.

21:26Rich Eisen:And then he's viewing it as just like, A, how many times, Coop, have you heard from me about something and then you go to mom? Or you heard from something from mom and then you go to me? Have you done that before? Does this sound familiar to you? Okay. Does it ever work for you? No. Normally, yeah, it never works. Yeah. I feel like, I mean, this is just like, what do you say? Like, what if he doesn't play in week one or week two? That's the problem when people want, people need to get paid. He deserves to get paid, but when you can't find a number and then you notice up it's September now, so what are you going to do when you haven't been paid and it's football season?

22:10So, like, will he be traded at the deadline? I don't know.

22:14Rich Eisen:I don't think he's going to get traded at all. No. I don't think that makes any sense until maybe next year. I think they said the Packers or the Chargers made an offer. The Packers, I believe it was. All I've been told is that if Micah's going to be staring into the abyss and boldly go where few have gone before, I've heard he's the type of person who's going to do that. Wow. We shall see. Let us take a break. Colin Hanks is here, one of our favorites, coming on out. Nobody, too. also he's got this great doc on john candy and the great stepfather nfl coaches game coming up

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24:34Rich Eisen:We were just talking about your beard. You got a little bit of gray in it. Is that from the San Francisco Giants? Colin Hanks. See, I'm just going right in right now. You're going straight for the jugular, which is somewhere behind this beard. Yes. I mean, it's definitely the Giants are just... What the hell, man? They got Rafael Devers and I thought, like, here we go. A buddy of mine on my Giants text thread said the best, said, guys, calm down. It's still just spring training, 2026. We're just jumping ahead to spring training right now. Oh my gosh. Yeah, it's pretty rough. Didn't you go to a game recently?

25:12I went to a game last weekend. I took my daughters and I was sitting with Larry Bear, you know, a big guy there. So yeah, they were the good seats. And he told me that at that point, they had not lost that many home games in a row since McKinley had been present. Oh God.

25:34Rich Eisen:And by the way, he's probably not exaggerating, right? No, he was not exaggerating. The Giants have been around forever. It was fact. They hadn't lost 13 in a row at home since they were the New York Giants. Oh, my God. And McKinley was president. That's not a joke. That's an old Gen stat. That's legit. Yeah, you know, look, baseball can be a cruel, cruel, cruel, cruel, cruel sport sometimes. Right. and sometimes August is the worst month. Oh, my gosh. Because, I mean, you know, the Dodgers keep doing what they're doing and the Padres are there. You need to get on the stick right now. Yeah, I know.

26:16And, you know, Devers just can't seem to, you know, I think he just needs to get this season done so that he can be comfortable and start fresh and just be like, this is where I'm going to be. Well, he's going to. I mean, he's going to be there. That's it. that he's not going anywhere else. I'm really hoping that next season we're able to sort of start fresh and start new and just get all of this out of the way. Because it is painful to watch.

26:40Rich Eisen:I know. I don't know. The team has just completely fallen apart. Completely. I know. Colin Hanks here on the Rich Eisen Show. And hockey season's around the corner. I know that intrigues you greatly. Yes. Cannot wait. You're one of those few... The few, the proud. Well, you Los Angeles Kings fans are very tough to keep down. You guys are nuts when it comes down to it. Yeah, we are. We are a vocal bunch, because if we're not, you wouldn't know that we actually existed, here in Los Angeles, at least. No, massive Kings fan. And no, I mean, incredibly excited for the season. I mean, any time I can take someone who's never been to a hockey game to a hockey game, instant fans.