AFC West Predictions

29 Aug 2025 · 51 min · 22 chapters

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In short

The Rich Eisen Show’s “AFC West Predictions” segment, plus surrounding NFL/college football talk and a guest interview.

Guests (backgrounds)

Mac Brown, former head coach of Texas and North Carolina; DeMarcus Lawrence (Seahawks defensive end) and ESPN’s Chris Fowler and NFL Network insider Tom Pelissero appear as earlier guests/mentions; callers include a Cowboys fan (TJ) and a Packers fan (Michael in Milwaukee).

Key claims

Micah Parsons’ Packers trade is framed as a “smart bet” that could accelerate Green Bay’s Super Bowl push, with an early schedule path (Lions/Washington/early division games) enabling quick sack production. In “what’s more likely,” the hosts pick Micah Parsons over any two Cowboys for sacks, and favor the AFC North over the AFC East for Super Bowl potential. For AFC West standings, they predict Chiefs first, Broncos second, Chargers third, Raiders fourth.

Notable examples

Parsons’ sack/All-Pro comparisons to Reggie White; Packers opener vs Lions; college opener Ohio State vs Texas discussed with Arch Manning pressure and noon vs night atmosphere.

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Chapters

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College Football Season Kickoff

2:15 to 5:00

Discussion about the start of the college football season and key games.

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Reggie White and Micah Parsons Comparison

5:00 to 7:30

Exploring the impact of Reggie White and Micah Parsons on their teams.

“Terzo, if I were to sign that, which I never would, but if I were to sign it, the Niners would be one of the last four teams that I would jump on the bandwagon of.”

Green Bay Packers Strategy

7:30 to 10:00

Analyzing the Packers' strategies and their recent moves.

“aren't now going to go, well, he, you know, he wasn't that good.”

What's More Likely: NFL Predictions

10:00 to 13:00

Engaging in predictions about NFL team performances this season.

“saying to Rodgers, our last gasp against each other, here comes Micah Parsons.”

Fantasy Football Insights

13:00 to 14:00

Sharing valuable insights for fantasy football picks and strategies.

“I wasn't sure because there was four teams.”

AFC West Predictions and Matchups

14:00 to 21:18

Discussion about week one matchups and player predictions in the AFC West.

“I will go Eagles wins as a higher total.”

Interview with Coach Mack Brown

22:42 to 28:00

Mack Brown discusses the upcoming football season and Arch Manning's challenges.

“Roku Joe Francetta is coming in with all sorts of hot takes.”

Analyzing Pressure on Young Quarterbacks

28:00 to 31:30

Understanding the challenges faced by young quarterbacks in high-pressure games.

“And then, of course, Eli and Peyton were two of the best.”

Memories of the Texas National Championship

31:30 to 33:50

Mack Brown reflects on the pivotal moments of the Texas national championship game against USC.

“Obviously, this Texas team is trying to do what the last Texas National Championship team did with you, is win it all.”

Coaching Changes and New Challenges

33:50 to 35:38

Discussing the impact of coaching changes at North Carolina and the future of the program.

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Honoring Lee Corso's Legacy

35:38 to 37:06

Mack Brown shares his favorite stories about Lee Corso and his contributions to college football.

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Closing Thoughts on Texas Football

37:06 to 37:34

Rich Eisen and Mack Brown discuss the current state and future of Texas football.

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Matthew McConaughey's Acting Journey

40:12 to 42:04

Matthew McConaughey shares the origins of his iconic phrase from 'Dazed and Confused'.

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Matthew McConaughey's Impact on Rich Eisen

42:04 to 43:05

Learn about Matthew McConaughey's memorable moments and quotes from his film career.

“where he barks at the crowd, all right, all right, all right, all right.”

Interstellar and Emotional Connections

43:05 to 43:52

Discover the emotional impact of 'Interstellar' on the hosts' lives.

“All of Matthew McConaughey's appearances on the Rich Eisen Show can be seen on our YouTube channel, youtube.com slash richeyesandshow.”

Listener Call-In: Packers Predictions

43:52 to 44:33

Join a listener's optimistic predictions for the Green Bay Packers' season.

“844-204-RICH is the number to dial on the program.”

Packers Win-Loss Breakdown

44:33 to 46:31

Analyze the Packers' game predictions and performance expectations from the caller.

“I think people are underestimating Dan Campbell.”

AFC West Predictions: Panel Discussion

46:31 to 47:22

Listen to the hosts' predictions for the competitive AFC West division.

“All right, it's time to predict the American Football Conference Western Division.”

Detailed Breakdown of AFC West Teams

47:22 to 48:24

Get insights into each AFC West team's potential performance and challenges.

“Yeah, but again, I think this is going to be a very tight division.”

Concerns and Hopes for the Chargers

48:24 to 49:11

Discuss the Chargers' roster and challenges heading into the season.

“I have Harbaugh and the Chargers finishing second.”

Overreaction Monday Podcast Preview

49:11 to 50:01

Preview the upcoming Overreaction Monday podcast and its content.

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Excitement for College Football Season

50:01 to 50:39

Anticipate the excitement of the college football season and key matchups.

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1:27Coming up, National Championship head coach, Mac Brown. And now, it's Rich Eisen.

1:36Rich Eisen:Our number three of the Rich Eisen show is on the air. It's a big hour for us and in the history of this show as we're live on the Roku channel here for this third and final hour of this month before Labor Day weekend. And I'm going to take a minute at the end of this hour for those who are watching right here on Roku to talk about our relationship with them because at the end of this show, this show is moving on to a different platform on a daily basis, but on a different portal. We will be here on Roku available. And for those who are listening on Infinity Sports Network in this hour or the Odyssey app, there will be an opportunity for us to be heard on this station throughout the rest of this year.

2:27Rich Eisen:But that's the business of this show. 844-204-RICH is the number to dial. We have a business to conduct. We've got a what's more likely in a moment. Mack Brown is going to join us in advance of a college football season that explodes onto the scene tomorrow between Ohio State and Texas. And I will be watching on television just like Dave Portnoy. 844-204-RICH. What? We almost made it. Sorry. Nebraska, huge win last night. College football is back. By the way, that kid, Rayola, in front of Mahomes, doing Mahomes things like this with his hand. Did you see that a couple times? In the intro, he runs down and does the Mahomes jump.

3:07Rich Eisen:He's just really going for it. I'm sorry, Rich, who was it in front of he was doing it? In Mahomes, in front of Mahomes. I mean, is that really who he was doing in front of? Well, I mean, it was in front of the Kelseys as well. I mean, yeah. In front of – oh, Taylor Swift was there. That's who he did. Well, they're playing Cincinnati. I know. Cincinnati was there in Kansas City last night. I text Rich last night. I'm like, yo, tell Zan that Taylor's at this. What, did I text you back? I said, I'm sure he's gotten many of alerts. He's gotten all of his alerts. Then I realized you were probably playing poker.

3:34Rich Eisen:I was indeed, sir. Okay. My bad for bothering you. 844-204. Bothering. Very good. Well put. 844-204-RICH is the number to dial right here on the show. Terzo in Iowa. All rise, everybody. All rise. Terzo in Iowa. What's up, Terzo? What do you mean? What's up, Rich? Hey, TJ, man, I feel for you, my dude. You know, I can't believe that this trade happened, and you being a Cowboys fan that you are, it just doesn't make sense to me. You don't get rid of a player like this, and especially shipping him to Green Bay. He's just giving me nightmares of Reggie White again, man. I don't like that feeling.

4:15Rich Eisen:I feel you on that, bro. Listen, Reggie White, though, I mean, listen, Micah did in the first four seasons. the only thing that we've seen before, 12 or more sacks, first four seasons since Reggie White. Reggie White was the minister of defense by the time he showed up in Green Bay. Before we start calling Micah the next Reggie White, let's see what he does there in Green Bay. Let's just see. Yeah, and I'm not saying that. No, I understand that. But he gives you vibes. I got you, gives you vibes. I understand. Yeah. And TJ, you know, at this point, you know, your owner's going to continue to lie to you.

4:51I think that's what he's doing. So why don't you just sign the release of Fathom? Oh, baby. Come be faithful with me, buddy. Come on. Terzo, if I were to sign that, which I never would,

5:04Rich Eisen:but if I were to sign it, the Niners would be one of the last four teams that I would jump on the bandwagon of. There it is. It's still blank. It's on the screen right now, Terzo, and it's still blank. Set fire to that thing. Hey, I can even notarize it for you, Teej. Come on, my wife. That's why we got Jay Feli here. No, no, he's not a notary. Don't forget. Don't forget. But that's in rare. Del Tufo just told Susie he was. I know, but for our purposes. And Susie actually delayed signing much-needed illegal paperwork to bring it in here, only to be told by Jay. You know, I'm just a mold remediator.

5:37Rich Eisen:I felt so guilty that day. It's not your fault, though. It was your fault. How many times? Thanks for the call, Terzo. All right, Terzo. Why would you feel guilty? I'm sorry somebody else told you I was a notary. Well, I went along with it, but I mean, when he started saying, oh, yeah, he notarized my stuff, I'm like, oh, boy, that didn't happen. Oh, boy, that didn't happen. I'm looking at Reggie White's stature. He was so incredible. Can we talk about this? My God. The guy had, in his last year in Green Bay, he was 37. He had 16 sacks, took a year off, came back, played the one year with Carolina, and had five and a half sacks at age 39.

6:15Rich Eisen:Dude, when he showed up in Green Bay, he was fully already a Hall of Famer. Yes. Micah is just on his way. Six straight first team All-Pros with the Eagles. Please. My God. Micah's been half of that, though, right? 198 career sacks. When he showed up in Green Bay, it was monumental. Mon-u-mental. Guys, this is monumental. Well, this is monumental because, again. Because this could put them over the top right now, like Stallone. That's the idea. That's the idea. But as I counseled Murph last night. How was he feeling? He's feeling great. Yeah. But as I counseled Murph last night, Green Bay took care of him.

6:58Right?

6:59Rich Eisen:Yeah. Did he put Jordan Love on his behind all day? Did he dominate that playoff game and say, we're not losing today at home? Nope. So, yeah, he's incredibly productive. He's very talented. He is a difference maker. But did he get you to the NFC Championship game? Nope. Yeah, but this isn't basketball. I get it. I get it. I just, we're not going to now, after hyping him up for all these weeks, aren't now going to go, well, he, you know, he wasn't that good. I am not saying that at all. We're talking about Reggie White, sir. Yeah, I mean, come on. Nobody's. And I'm also saying here that he's, it's, listen.

7:45Rich Eisen:In the NFL, you make your bets. You try to be smart about them. You try to push the right button at the right time. The Green Bay Packers have been building slowly. Post Aaron Rodgers. It is now time to push a button on something like this. Makes sense. Excellent bet. You're taking advantage of rivals, problems, to make it your personal gain. it checks every possible box to do great stuff same thing aaron rogers in pittsburgh matthew staffer wasn't coming i don't know if darnold said no to the money or they didn't want to pay him justin fields they had a close look at him and they're like that's not it russ there's the door can we get kirk cousins did they kick the tires on him don't know Rodgers at this stage of his life that's a smart bet I think it is a smart bet the Jets with Justin Fields smart bet the NFL is all about making smart bets to the best you can do and see if it works out the Packers just made a remarkably aggressive smart move at the same time and we will see if it does pay off and week one baby I'm just saying, again, you look at the Packers schedule under this microscope now and what Micah can do and what Micah is being brought in to do, you take a look at them and you got Detroit and Washington right off the bat, the team that won their division and the team that eliminated them from the playoffs last year, right away in Lambeau Field.

9:29Rich Eisen:You go 2-0 because Micah's getting like a 1-1⁄2, 2-1⁄2 sacks. Oh my God. We'll talk about this till the cows come home. And he's going to have to ramp up. They go to Cleveland, where it all started last year, last second with Dak and CD. Looked great, right? Didn't it look great? Then they're at, for Micah going there, and then they're at Dallas. Look out. You got to go for Joe Burrow. You got to chase down Kyler, Murray. And then that Sunday nighter in Pittsburgh saying to Rodgers, our last gasp against each other, here comes Micah Parsons. These are all smart moves. Philadelphia, that's the team that you got to beat.

10:16Rich Eisen:Minnesota, in your division, all those games. You're trying to get Lamar down on the ground a couple days after Christmas. Great move. Super move. Will it work out? We've got to see. And it's all going to be must-see. Let's get to what's more likely right here on the Rich Eisen Show on a Friday. Hit it, please. What? What's more likely? Never say never, but never. All right, let's roll. Let's roll. Friday, it's Friday, it's Friday. What's up, guys? How you doing? What's going on? What's up, man? You know who's doing great? I think Micah Parsons is doing pretty good right now. I'd say so. Who's more likely to have the most sacks this season, Micah Parsons or any two Cowboys?

10:59Rich Eisen:Oh, boy. Hmm. Combined? Combined. Jesus. That is. I'll go any two Cowboys. Just because I'm trying to be respectful. I mean, that's a great question. So let's say Micah has 12 again. So two Cowboys have got to get six. I mean, Dante Fowler Jr. is the guy, right? Oh, man. TJ, you want to chime in? Micah has 16, maybe. Personally, I hope it's the NE2 Cowboys. What's more likely? It's not what's more hopeful. What's more likely? To pile on to my anguish, I'm going to say probably Micah. Yeah, maybe so. I take my finger off the previous chest piece. He's going to have a chip on his shoulder. And there's Rashawn Gary, by the way, on the other side.

11:55Rich Eisen:He's going to get some attention. What else, Chris? The trade yesterday involved, obviously, the NFC North, the NFC East. Which division is more likely to make the Super Bowl? The North or the East? Hmm.

12:10Rich Eisen:Defending champs. I'll go North because I think there's more candidates. Oh. Yeah. I think there's more Super Bowl potential worthy teams in the North. Interesting. Which means I think the Vikings are a Super Bowl contender. Yeah, you do. Well, he won 14 games last year with Sam Darnold, sir. Yeah, but they ain't got him no more. Okay. That's a great point. They have the champion of Team 144 from that school up AFC North. Look, you know, we're fans. No, I know. No, I think there are more NFC North candidates than the NFC East candidates, so that's the way I will go with that one. So you're saying three teams in the North, then, you think?

12:49Rich Eisen:Two in the East? Definitely not more than two in the East. So you're saying no Cowboys, then, is what you're saying. I am saying I was intimating that, so let me now say it. I wasn't sure because there was four teams. I mean, I know it's a bit, but now you've forced me into saying the words. Well, I mean, with your chest. What else? Six days from kickoff next week. Eagles, Cowboys. What's more likely to be the higher total? Eagles wins or Cowboys losses this season? I'll go Eagles wins. I mean, Cowboys aren't losing 12, 13 games, dude. I kind of hope we do. Why not? Yeah, you kind of hope so if you're a Cowboy fan, right?

13:35Rich Eisen:Then get my brother and put... I don't know, man. We get this guy who's football curds behind you. I mean, Dak's not just going to roll over with Seedy and George Pickens and, you know, their tight ends and, you know, that's still Trevon Diggs there, right? Is he still there? Yeah, but he's... Okay, come on now. They could be this year's Bengals, right? Come on now. Come on now. Explosive offense. You think the Cowboys are going to be 5-12 because of this? I mean, I think. Okay. Stop it. They lost a great player. I will move on. It's not going to make us better. I will go Eagles wins as a higher total.

14:12Rich Eisen:I hope you're right. I think I am going to be right. What else? A couple of week one matchups. Let's look way ahead that we may not get to next week in what's more likely. How about this one? quarterback wide receiver combo with more touchdowns this season cam ward calvin ridley bo nicks courtland sutton oh boy i'll go bo nicks courtland sutton come on now i mean bo nicks is is a we've already seen his body of work so far and we assume he's going to get better i'll go denver yeah denver's going to air it out denver's going to air it out oh they're going to run it and they're going to air it out they're going to do both they're going to be really good Yeah, they're probably going to be.

14:51Rich Eisen:I am trying to collect Marvin Mims in as many fantasy drafts as I possibly can. Oh, man. A little sleeper on Marvin. I'm not sleeping. Pretty much every team I've had so far has got Marvin Mims on it. He's going to burn it. Come on now. I mean, Cam Ward's still a rookie, isn't he? I don't know. We just saw a rookie last year. I got it. Last two years. Last two years. Yeah, it was like Super Bowl. Cam Ward, he's feeling it. I'll go Bo Nix, Cortland Sutton. All right, that's fun. I'm glad you are allowing it. What's his? Your show, my segment, it's all the same. It's all good. It is all the same.

15:30Rich Eisen:It is all the same. More likely wide receiver. Our show. Wide receiver running back duo. What's a wide receiver running back duo? All right. More yards and touchdowns this year. Yes. Marvin Harrison, James Conner. Marvin James. Alvin Kamara, Chris Alave. I'll go Harrison Jr. and Conner. Cardinal Saints week one. Come on, man. Come on, dude. Can we be respectful of Kyler Murray a little bit here? He has not really earned that. Okay, stop it. Stop it. Oh, wow. Stop it. Stop it. Stay healthy. Do the playoffs. Got it. Harrison Jr. and Connor. Well, the playoffs wouldn't count towards this anyway, really.

16:05Rich Eisen:I like Kamara and Olave. You know, when healthy is good. Let's see what Spencer Rattler looks. We know. I mean, come on. Kyler Murray is the guy who's throwing the ball and handing it off, right? That we were talking about? Yeah, correct. We're not Clayton tuning it. We are not tuning it. Okay, very good. Did he make the team? Let me see. Go ahead. Keep going. Yeah. So you like those. You like the Marvin Harrison, James Conner. And it's not Clayton tuning. It's Jacoby Brissett. Hey. Jake Brisket's back. Jake Brisket. What else? Big college football weekend. Let's hit on a couple of these. You love this question.

16:42Rich Eisen:Quarterback under the most pressure tomorrow. So stupid. Arch Manning or Julian Sayan? So stupid. There's only one right answer. We know who it is. One right answer. You know what answer it is. Yeah, I don't even know who the other guy is. Stop it. Well, you know who the other guy is. He's the starting quarterback of the Ohio State University. The defending champ. Try to make a point. Ask at home. I mean, listen, one guy, if he doesn't perform up to snuff, will get another year at Texas or just leave to go to the pros. The other guy, if he doesn't perform up to snuff, will be the starting quarterback at Syracuse.

17:16Rich Eisen:just ask Kyle McCord how it all worked out I would gladly take it that worked out great for us I mean it's great for Syracuse but you know all the scorn all the scorn of the fan base that can't even countenance seeing Dave Portnoy in the stadium I mean my god allow him in a stadium of over 100 ,000 people and just we'd have to focus in on the one guy? I'm sorry. It's not. It's not. No, I'm sorry because I'm getting it wrong. Oh, right. It's Fox that hires him and is paying all that money to not be on their most watched hour. Fox is a decision. My bad. So now I'll choose saying, although, you know, pressure, whatever.

18:06Rich Eisen:They're big men on campus playing in the biggest game of their lives. Obviously, there's nerves, but good luck to both of them. I hope they perform as well as they hope to perform. Because that means we will enjoy a great football game. There's one that I hope performs better, though. That's Arch Manning. Right, exactly. Yeah. Right. That's all I mean. What up? Guys, some big names. College coaches, obviously, too, that are near and dear to our heart. Who's more likely to have a winning record this year? Deion Sanders or Bill Belichick?

18:39Great question.

18:41Rich Eisen:You know where I'm going with this. Yeah, Bill, obviously. No. Oh. No. I can't wait to watch Monday night. I don't know what either team's going to look like, to be honest. I know. But, you know, Prime's been at this college thing longer than Bill has. That's indeed. I literally just said those words. Indeed. Prime time. I wonder if Prime has any new trademarks. Prime time. Oh, God. About gold or digging? Perhaps either. That is insane, by the way. What a story that is. Either one, honestly. What a development that is. Onward. What else? All right, last one. Did you see what happened in Philadelphia last night?

19:18Rich Eisen:Kyle Schwarber, my man. I know, right? Had a chance at five home runs to set the record. And by the way, did you see it was a position player? A position player. And put one, an offense pitch right down the middle. Right down the middle. And Schwarber popped up. I know, I saw that. It was 57 miles an hour. I know, I know. Large, more likely large derriered slugger to get to 60 home runs this year. I'm going dumper. dumper or shorber who's getting it great one by the way large derriered slugger is it that's if we if we had a fantasy baseball name that's it obvious come on man i'm going cal rally or kyle shwarver great question so one's got 50 one's got 49 right i'll go on closer i'll go cal rally by the way the fact that schwarber did it in like an old like mike schmidt yeah it was the wheeze kids throwback like steve carlton that was awesome gorgeous that's what i'm talking about none of this city connect garbage or is that their city connect no not their city okay you know what i mean like come on now right there i shouldn't say garbage yeah i mean i know that's steve carlton right there that's it right the fact that he did it in that uniform was awesome he is i know it's fun cranking it out like that so great who wins mvp we talked about that yesterday i know and now I think they're both the MVP right there.

20:34Rich Eisen:I would love that. That'd be fun. That's it. That'd be fun. I think. You know, and at least our Rich Eisen show social media grand maester, if you don't mind me calling him that now, Jay Culp, at least he got a nice big night before your Mets come in and starts making his life miserable again. By the way, it looks like you guys are going to play each other in the wild card in Philadelphia, and it's still up in the air, which location. We're going to be playing against each other. This is going to be fun in October. Let us take a break. Mack Brown is going to join us next here on the Rich Eisen Show.

21:11Rich Eisen:Your phone calls as well. Stay on hold. Please listen to this interview because we're going to have time to take your calls on the other side. Oh, the AFC West will predict that still to come, too.

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23:16Rich Eisen:Well, obviously you would say that since you root for 90 teams. Listen, bro. Matthew McConaughey roots for only one team. And before we get to Mac Brown, I think, did you see he posted this video? The minister of Kwan, I guess. Culture. Culture in Texas. In advance of tomorrow's big game. Ding, ding. We're back in the ring. College football is back. Here we go. It's that time of year. Man, I'm really excited about the entire season, but specifically about this University of Texas Longhorn football team 2025. Love this, man. This team has real confident and quiet belief in themselves. I believe they're on a mission regardless of the number one ranking, regardless of all the hype.

23:59All the hype in the number one ranking is neither validation nor a curse to this team. They're above and beyond that before any of us even said they were number one preseason ranked or got all the hype around them. And I think that's what any great championship team's got to have. They've got to have their own reason and mission that they're on, regardless of what anyone else thinks, whether they're someone jumping on the bandwagon or whether they're over here catcalling from the stands being a naysayer. This team can give a damn about all that bull. They've got a mission they're on. They believe it.

24:37They're ready to earn it. It's a long season, so we'll see. But that's what I love about the makeup of this team. head, heart, and soul aligned in the belief

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24:47Rich Eisen:that it's theirs to go get.

24:52Rich Eisen:Welcome. That was awesome. Back on the radio. We just watched Matthew McConaughey on our Roku channel-only segment there. Talk about the Texas Longhorns. We'll talk a little bit about them right now as well. All right, all right. Dan Strayed, former head coach of Texas Longhorn football and is part of the Stampede, a podcast on Texas Longhorns football and its history. Vince Young is part of it. So is the CBS Austin sports director, Bob Ballew, and this man, Mac Brown, back on the program. How are you doing, Coach Brown? How are you, sir? I'm doing great, Rich. Just listening to Matthew puts a smile on my face.

25:30He and Jack Ingram and I have a charity named Mac Jack and McConaughey every year in Austin. They raised a lot of money and give them some back. And I got on them once about being a little late, and Matthew said, we're actors. We're entertainers. You're a coach. I mean, don't expect us to be on time and listening and paying attention. And I remember before the national championship game, Matthew started a song, They Don't Think So, We Know So. And he was beating his chest.

26:00Rich Eisen:Is he doing it? He was doing the beating his chest. And he had the entire team on the night before the game taking pictures in the Rose Bowl. and I'm sitting there looking at them and they're saying, they don't think so, but we know so. I mean, there are 102 of them singing it and going crazy. And I would say that when we're talking about jerseys of a guy going to a game and wearing a jersey that's not his two teams. Yes, sir. Well, I went through the Columbus airport today and I wore black. Because I was going to be really, really careful and make sure that nobody thought I was wearing burnt orange in that airport.

26:40Rich Eisen:Well, come on, no, Mac. Come on now. I mean, aren't you the one that's going to plant the flag tomorrow after the victory? Isn't that going to happen? I didn't plant it 20 years ago, and I'm not planting it tomorrow for sure. But this game is so cool, and the Ohio State fans were great on the plane. They were cutting up and laughing and taking pictures, and we're headed to the podcast. I'll put my orange on in a second. When we're joining podcasts with Ohio State players, then they've got a cornhole match tonight and give back to charity. In fact, Vin Cheung and Ricky Williams are giving the money they raised back to the flood victims in Texas.

27:19So college football is such a wonderful game, and it's so passionate. It means so much that somebody, or pro football, sports, that somebody would wear somebody else's jersey to a game and be so proud that they'd stand right in the middle. But I can't wait for this game. There's so many similarities with these two teams. It's the way to start off college football season.

27:42Rich Eisen:Mack Brown, your assessment of Arch Manning and the challenge in front of him is what? I think he's really good. He's big. He's tall. He's very accurate. He's smart. He was raised in a quarterback family. His grandfather has been kind of the go-to guy, and Archie was one of the best to ever play. And then, of course, Eli and Peyton were two of the best. And then his dad, Cooper, was a receiver at Ole Miss and very smart and very successful businessman. So very few people, I think, Rich, could handle the pressure of that name. And this young man's gotten so much pressure. They're talking about him winning the Heisman.

28:20They're talking about this, talking about that. And I've been around him quite a bit. He is so comfortable and humble that I think only a man can handle what he's having thrown at him. And that'll be a load tomorrow. I do think when we played this game, it was a defensive battle. And we made a few big plays to win the game. But I've gone back and checked the stats. It was a defensive battle. But it was 8 o 'clock at night, and you couldn't hear anything. And it'll be really interesting to see with the game tomorrow at noon, will that make a huge difference? I mean, will the fans be as loud at noon as they would be at 8 o 'clock at night?

28:58Rich Eisen:So then the challenge of Steve Sarkeesian to coach this kid and get him prepared for a game this big, knowing that it's more than just about this game this year, clearly. What's your opinion on that, Mac? Well, both of these teams have been labeled in preseason. Whether it's the defending national champ, you've got a new young quarterback that hasn't played, and saying you've got a new defensive coordinator, you've got a new offensive coordinator, all the things that are being said about Ryan's team. And these are two of the best coaches and two of the best programs in college football. And then Steve's deal is he loses four of his starting offensive linemen.

29:39I think these guys lost 23 to 27 guys to the NFL. I mean, they're just machines putting out NFL players. They've got C.J. Baxter back as a running back. They got hurt last year. They had to replace three great receivers. Both teams are great on defense. Coach Sarkeesian's got to figure out what Pat Patricia's going to do on defense because he hasn't seen him, and Matt hadn't coached defense for a number of years. So that's going to be a different dilemma, trying to redo the game plan in the first quarter. And I think, Rich, more than anything else, there's so much pressure on these two quarterbacks, and they're playing great defenses and they don't have a game under their belt, we're going to find out their identity tomorrow.

30:30So both coaches have to handle their quarterbacks, get them some easy throws early, make sure they can protect early, throw the ball outside, throw the ball deep, but don't throw it across the middle because you're hyped and a ball will get tipped. You'll overthrow it, be an interception. And most early games are lost more than one. And that sounds really strange. And coaches usually, a lot of fans hate it because they say, well, you're trying to keep from losing. No, you are trying to keep from losing. And you start talking about Julian. He was 5 for 12 last year. He has had very few opportunities to play, and especially in a game like this.

31:10And he was the number one dual threat quarterback in the country. So he can run. So I think taking care of the ball, who can handle goal line and short yardage situations and which quarterback will make enough plays with his feet to keep them alive on drives and have long scoring drives will be the ones that win this game.

31:30Rich Eisen:Mack Brown here on the Rich Eisen Show. Obviously, this Texas team is trying to do what the last Texas National Championship team did with you, is win it all. Were you surprised at the end of that game that Reggie Bush was not on the field, Mack Brown, at the end of that game? Well, I was, but Lindell White had gained about 250 yards rushing on the power play, off tackle. so it's if I was Pete I would have gone for it because they weren't stopping us and if I was Pete I would have handed it to to Lindell White now if Reggie should have been on the field if they'd made the first down it would have never been mentioned pretty much since we stopped them and we go back and score then it got to be a big deal but Pete's pretty good coach oh yeah I think we're good no I I know that I just that's part of the conversation even years later from all that.

32:26Rich Eisen:Your recollection then of that game and that night, Mac? It was really special, and that's why tomorrow's so special. It's different now because with the playoff, the team that loses tomorrow can still get the playoff and still win the national championship. When we played Jim Trestle's team, I think Ohio State's team in 05, the Texas team we had, and the USC team were the three best teams in the country. and the team that won this game was going to probably play USC for the national championship because Ohio State ended up having a great year too. And I thought it was really cool, Rich, even in the BCS, that there wasn't any question that those were the two best teams in the country, Texas and USC, and it was everybody else.

33:13And people didn't give us much of a chance, but they were a little afraid to say, Yeah, Texas pretty good. But two Heisman Trophy winners, Vince Young had just lost the Heisman to Reggie in New York. And he got on the phone with our entire team who thought he was going to win. And they're in the team meeting room back in Austin. I just remember him telling Rod Wright, tell them all, man, game on. Game is on. So probably Vince losing the Heisman was an early edge for us because he got everybody stirred up.

33:48Rich Eisen:Mac Brown here on the Rich Eisen Show. Now you're doing a podcast with him, huh? We are. And Vince and I are having a blast. And I told him, memories are really a weird thing. Sometimes they come out and say, remember when you said this? And I said, no. I never said that. He said, oh, yeah, Coach, we all remember you saying that. Nope. That may be what you heard. That's not what I said. But we're having a blast. and just talking about Texas past, Texas present, and college football currently and in the future. Yeah, it's the Stampede. So all you Longhorn fans and fans of college football, check out the Stampede wherever you get your podcasts.

34:26Rich Eisen:Mack Brown, in the tenure that you were with North Carolina and Texas and then North Carolina again, if I told you that when you left North Carolina, you would be succeeded as the head coach of North Carolina football by Bill Belichick, you would have said what to me? Mac Brown. I would have probably said, nah, I don't think so. It's amazing how things happen. But Lee Roberts is the new chancellor, and he has really committed to football. And it's a time where you have to. But Lee Roberts is committed to Coach Belichick in every way. and they have a chance to be as good as anybody in the country.

35:09And now they brought in 70-plus new players. Now that you can buy players, it's more like an NFL model. They've got money, so they can buy really good players. So there's Abs and Bill's arguably the best coach of any sport in his life. He's won so many Super Bowls. It'll be fun to watch them. We've still got some of our players that are there. I've got a lot of friends in that state that love North Carolina football And like I said, this is the first time they've really stepped up to the plate and committed to it, so it's going to be fun to watch.

35:41Rich Eisen:And before I let you go, Mac, it's a big day on ESPN on Saturday, College Game Day, as Lee Corso says farewell to College Game Day, and it's to him. Your favorite Lee Corso story, please, what do you have for me, Mac Brown? Well, the first thing, how many of us have always said, not so fast, my friend. Pretty much. I mean, just in conversations because of Coach. But Coach and I, he was a mentor of mine. When he first got in the business, I would talk to him a lot. We would go to different bowl functions. He was so successful, but he was out of the box, like he's been on game day. He'll say anything, he'll do anything, but he'll back it up.

36:24And he's a guy with stats, and he's a fun guy. And I remember when he would pick us, and he did many times, he was the only one to pick us for the national championship game. He would come down on the sideline and say, okay, I stuck my neck out now. You better win. And I mean, he would walk up and down that sideline, and he would be stalking you and staring at you. Is that right?

36:50Rich Eisen:Is that right? Is that right? His picks have been really, really important to him. There will never, ever be another Lee Corso. and he's an icon in our business. We're all going to miss the headgear picks. And it's just something I've loved about in the morning getting ready to coach. You always wanted to see if coach picked. And it was just because it was fun. And he's put fun into a very, very difficult business. And I know I'm really going to miss him. And I know many people will. Mac Brown, you're the man. Congrats on the pod. Let's chat more often. Obviously, Texas is going to be in the spotlight this year and your delight to talk to.

37:33Rich Eisen:And thanks for the time. Appreciate it. Have a great day. Thank you, Rich. Thanks for having me on. I'm going to go put on my orange now so I can go back. Go ahead and do that. And just walk around town. Just walk around town. I'm Matt Brown. Am I burnt orange? Who are you? You know what I mean? I will say, Rich, when USC and Ohio State fans come up and say, I hate you. I said, well, let's see. That means you're an Oklahoma fan. You're an A &M fan. You're a USC fan. You're an Ohio State fan. Ohio State, you ruined my life. And I said, good. Better me ruin your life than you ruin mine. That's it.

38:07Rich Eisen:That's it, Matt Brown. You go into that Columbus afternoon being yourself. Enjoy it. Thanks, guys. You got it. He's recording the latest episode of The Stampede. Everybody check it out where you can get your pods. 844-204-RICH is the number to dial here on the program. Phone calls, AFC West predictions, and a farewell. That's all coming up. Rich Eisen here for Gusto. After all these years talking to athletes, coaches, entertainers, and people at the top of what they do, one thing is pretty clear. Success usually depends on getting the details right. For small business owners, that includes payroll, hiring, onboarding, benefits, you know, the work that keeps everything moving, even if it's not the reason you started the business in the first place.

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40:16Rich Eisen:You told a story about the genesis of all right, all right, all right. Would you please tell that story? Here's where that comes from. So days are confused. Yes. Genius film. I'm in the right bar at the right time. And a guy goes, hey, you ever done any acting? You might be just right for this part. Legendary cast director and producer Don Phillips. And I said, yeah, I was in a Miller Lite commercial for about this long, but, you know, maybe I'm in film school at the time. And he goes, well, come to this address. You might be just right. Pick up the script. I go down, I pick up the script. There's three scenes with three lines.

40:51And one of the lines is Wooderson out front of the pool hall. The girls walk by. He checks her out going by. And his buddy says, man, you've got to cut that out. You're going to go to jail for that, Wooderson. And Wooderson steps forward and says, no, man, that's what I love about those high school girls. I get older, but they stay the same age. Legendary line. I call it a launch pad line. Like you're going to say, unpacking anyone, any character who says that and believes it, we can write a book on that guy. Right? So that was one of the lines. So I go work on those three lines for three weeks.

41:23I come back and they do what's called a makeup and wardrobe test, meaning they're shooting another scene one night. I'm just going to show up. Director's going to step off the set and come and look and go, great. I approve. Well, he comes and looks. He goes, geez, this is Wooderson. It's great. He goes, listen, you're not scheduled to work tonight, but we're over here at the top notch drive through. And you think Wooderson might want to pick up on the redheaded intellectual? And I'm like, sure. And he goes, want to shoot it? I'm like, sure. So I go get in the car. I shoot my first scene ever in a film.

41:56Of your career. Of my career. And I had been listening to a lot of 70s rock and roll at that time. And there was a certain live recording of a Jim Morrison concert in Amsterdam or somewhere where he barks at the crowd, all right, all right, all right, all right. Four times real aggressively, though. I'm not thinking about that. But this comes back. So I'm in the car, and I'm like, who's my man? I'm nervous. I'm about to hear act. Who's my man? Who's Wooderson? I said, well, I'm about my car. And I go, well, I'm in my 70s Chevelle. There's one. I said, I'm about getting high. I said, well, Slater's riding shotgun.

42:31You know, he's got a Dubois rolled up. There's two. And I said, and I'm about rock and roll. And I said, well, I got Nugent, Stranglehold in the eight track, man. There's three and I hear action. And I look up and in my mind, I go, and I'm about chicks. I got three out of four. Let's go get the fourth. All right. All right. All right. Wow. That was it. First words I ever said on screen. First words I ever said. And that was the three affirmations of those three things I had. There we go.

43:05Rich Eisen:All of Matthew McConaughey's appearances on the Rich Eisen Show can be seen on our YouTube channel, youtube.com slash richeyesandshow. I love that guy. Have you seen Interstellar again yet? You haven't seen it yet? I told you I saw it. No, I haven't seen it. Dude. I was so late to that party. Yeah, I don't think I've seen that one yet. Oh, my gosh. I love McConaughey. I told you it made me cry on the plane home. Yeah. And I got up, and I sought out Taylor, and I gave her the biggest hug. On the plane? Oh, so it's one of those movies, huh? Well, it's a girl dad's story. Oh, I got you. Among many other things.

43:46Rich Eisen:Sure, of course. I mean, I'm boiling down just one aspect of it. Girl dad story. Pretty amazing. So. 844-204-RICH is the number to dial on the program. Fun Friday show before a big Labor Day weekend is right here upon us, back on the Rich Eisen Show. Let's get a Milwaukee perspective. Michael in Milwaukee here on the Rich Eisen Show. What's up, sir? What's up? Not much, Rich. What's going on with you guys? What's on your mind, sir? I would love to play the win-loss game for the Green Bay. Now we are talking. The previous three have been done without knowing. Micah Parsons was going to wind up on the team the weekend before, taking on the Lions.

44:28Rich Eisen:What happens now, Michael, in Milwaukee, when the Packers are opening up against the Lions? What happens? I think people are underestimating Dan Campbell. I think the Packers and the rest of the league are going to come out a little cocky against them. I think we're going to lose the first game at home. Okay. Didn't they see that one coming? I mean, what happens when the commanders come into town just five days later? I will be at Lambeau Field watching Micah Parsons give Jaden Daniels hell, and the Packers are going to win. Now we're 1-1 at Cleveland. That's going to be a win as well. We're on a roll going into Dallas with Micah Sunday night.

45:00If Jerry doesn't regret that trade now, he will regret it then.

45:04Rich Eisen:Now you're going into the buy on a three-game win streak, coming out with the Bengals in town. That's going to be a win. 4-1 at the Cardinals. Win. Five straight wins before you see Aaron Rodgers on Sunday night football in Pittsburgh. Going to get sacked three times, and the Steelers are going to lose that one. By Micah. Is Micah doing the sacking? I'm going to say he'll get two. Rashawn Gary will get the other. That's calling a shot. Six wins in a row. Six and one home for the Panthers. That's a win. Seven wins in a row. Home for the Eagles on a Monday night. That's going to be a loss. All right.

45:40Rich Eisen:Now seven and two at the Giants. come on Ritz that's going to be a win 8-2 home for the Vikings I think that is a win there as well I think we had a real rough record against our division last year we're not going to have the same issue this year 9-2 at Detroit on Thanksgiving you have a history of ruining Thanksgiving in Detroit and history is going to repeat itself okay that is now 10-2 home for the Bears that's a win 11-2 at the Broncos That's a win as well. 12-2 at the Bears. We're going to go 2-0 against the Bears. 13-2, home for the Ravens on a Saturday. That's going to be a loss. 13-3 at the Vikings.

46:24Rich Eisen:And that's going to be a win. 14-3, says Michael in Milwaukee. Thank you, sir. After an 0-1 start. One seed. It certainly would be. All right, it's time to predict the American Football Conference Western Division. uh tj we'll give you the first up since you're licking your wounds the most i'm hurt son i'm hurt predicting the afc west sir afc west i gotta i'm gonna preface this by saying this was the toughest division so far and i do believe all of these teams guys are going to finish with a winning record okay but that being said someone's got to fall into each number so jay felly i told you earlier i don't mean any disrespect to raider nation but i got you guys coming in fourth, but again, I think your season's going to be pretty decent.

47:11Rich Eisen:What a jerk. I got the Chargers third, the Broncos second, and until Patrick Mahomes doesn't exist anymore on the football field, I'm sticking with the Chiefs. Chargers third, huh? Yeah, but again, I think this is going to be a very tight division. I think three of these teams are probably going to make the playoffs. Christopher? I have a feeling I'm not going to like any of your answers. I would agree. You know, TJ, you and I are lockstep. Excuse me, the exact same thing. The Raiders, I think, are going to be better than people think, but they're not going to be as good as the other three teams ahead of them.

47:44Rich Eisen:The Chargers, I have them third. I don't love the Rashawn Slater injury. Yes, I hear you. And I'm just wondering who else is going to catch the ball. I know that Keenan Allen's there, but he's 34 years old. We know Adidi is awesome. Really excited for Omari and Hampton. But they're not quite as good as Denver, who is not quite as good as Kansas City. I still think this is a Chiefs, though I don't think they're going 15-2 again. I'll tell you this. I am toying with the idea of the Chiefs winning the Super Bowl. I've got to come up with this for Tuesday's NFL Game Day morning season kickoff show on Tuesday night at 8 Eastern time.

48:20Rich Eisen:It's never a stretch. Chiefs winning the division. I have Harbaugh and the Chargers finishing second. Keenan Allen's back. And I am concerned about Rashawn Slater. but when they drafted Joe Alt, he was a left tackle. Yeah, I get it. He was doing great on the right side. I get it. At least they have that, though. You think? They have that. And Denver, I'm excited. We're talking to Sean Payton next Tuesday. He thinks they can win the Super Bowl. You can win the Super Bowl from finishing third if you're a wildcard team going on a run. Sure. And I think your Raiders will be toying with the idea of making the playoffs at some point this season.

49:01Rich Eisen:Okay, this season. Thank you. Of course. Dude, you know how I feel about Pete here. You know how I feel about Pete. Need to see it. They've got a lot to prove. Need to see it. A lot to prove, guys. Offensive line's a little shaky. Right. And the line we came up with the other day. Ashton Gentry. He's going to be terrific, but he's going from Boise to men. It's pretty good. It's a pretty good line. I didn't. We said that the other day because I missed that. No, no, no. It's coming. It's coming. It's coming. We recorded the Overreaction Monday podcast for Monday. I like that. It's coming. Boise to men.

49:33Rich Eisen:Yeah, the next Overreaction Monday podcast is dropping on Labor Day. Hopefully the end of the road is a long way down the road for him. I got to say, Rich came up with that on the spot. Slayed me. That's what he does. I know, I get it. He's got a huge smile as he thought of it. He was very proud. You watch the Overreaction Monday podcast on our YouTube page on Monday or get it wherever you get your podcasts. I almost walked off the set. I was so proud of that. It was really good. I almost mic dropped and walked off the set. Did you hear how I ended that for you, though? Hopefully the end of the road for Gentile's way.

50:06Rich Eisen:No, I didn't get that. End of the road was the very famous place to get to. Now that we've come. Okay. Texas wins, Ohio State wins. Texas wins, Ohio State wins. Hook him. Let's go. TJ. Gotta go to Texas. You already know. Yeah, gotta go to Texas. Come on. Okay. It's Arch season. I don't know. It's Arch season. Let's go. You know what my heart says, but I think that's a tall order, pal. I mean, Jeremiah Smith. For who? for my show. Yeah. I think Ohio State's going to win. I mean, they feel it. They know it. That's why Portnoy's not allowed to see it with his own two eyes. I can feel it. Oh, God, I can't get enough of that.

50:44Rich Eisen:Archibald is coming. Syracuse, Tennessee also, same time. You need counter-programming. We're going to sign off on Roku in a second. We're signing off on the Infinity Sports Network. this show could be is available throughout the fall and many of these stations and we appreciate everybody there at Westwood one I skip my shout out to to all those who have been so supportive Bruce Gilbert and you know my friend Teresa Gage as well back to sign off on Roku in a second you know when you're locked in focused and fearless welcome to the WNBA your vision arrows You can't look away. Every assist, every stop, every logo three.

51:33From beyond the logo! Every did you see that moment?

51:38Rich Eisen:You bet! What records are going to be broken this season? All of it right here. Lock in. It's the WNBA on ESPN. All season long.

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College Football Hall of Fame coach Mack Brown and Rich discuss the huge #1 Texas vs #3 Ohio State game featuring the first significant start for Longhorns QB Arch Manning, Bill Belichick’s foray into college football at UNC, and Lee Corso’s retirement from ESPN’s ‘College GameDay.’

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