Brady & Flag Football, JSN Gets the Bag, NFL Draft Intrigue and More

9:33Chris Brockman:the thing is it's like kind of lose lose if you send the nfl guys and they don't win gold then

9:39Rich Eisen:what yeah no i i agree with you on that certainly if you're going to be going against people who do it for a living yeah or pretty much all year all year round yeah and know the sport and know how

9:50Chris Brockman:to actually play it and our teammates and have that vibe and chemistry but in the same way team

9:55Rich Eisen:usa flag football going out putting pads on and playing against these guys and actual tackle football that would not go well for them you wouldn't you wouldn't want to attempt that either

10:03Chris Brockman:like i mean who should's five seven like that's not a ideal quarterback height but this is um

10:08Rich Eisen:this was a um a great exhibition for them yeah and by exhibition i don't mean games that don't count i just mean to show off their talents um i think it was eye-opening for the you know flag

10:19Chris Brockman:football 28 initiative but you know nfl guys pushing like you're not on their level yet

10:24Rich Eisen:Especially since it was in the stadium where the actual Olympic Games for flag football will take place.

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11:32Chris Brockman:So, well, I totally agree with you on this one. Cool. Let's talk about some headlines now. Breaking news Monday morning. The Seahawks get JSN. Record-breaking contract 42 and change per year for him. I'm the highest paid wide receiver in the NFL. Yes, sir. Seahawks are going to regret paying JSN nearly$10 million more than Sam Darnold. Can't pay your wide receiver that much more than your franchise quarterback. Can't do it. Why can't you do it? What kind of dangerous precedent are you setting here? Are you saying JSN is more important to your team's success than your quarterback? No, what you're saying.

12:09Chris Brockman:Yes, you are. You are saying that because that's what the money's for, Rich Eisen. they're telling us how they view him more important than Sam Darnold big mistake or you are not

12:20Rich Eisen:looking at it the right way this is a massive overreaction this is as wide an overreaction as you've had in recent memory I don't know man I don't know about this because what this shows is to the rest of the locker room that if you ball out and it is your time to be paid you will be paid it does show the rest of the locker room we are willing to pay the guys that are here have been drafted and have shown every year improvement and also not just every year improvement on the field but every day consistency in the locker room in the community you do what you are being asked to do you are being uh you're excellent what you're tasked at doing and you also comport yourself in a way that makes us as a franchise even more solid in the community you are going to get paid and not just paid not just market level market changing market breaking dollars that is what it shows to everyone in the locker room that we're going to do and i understand the quarterback is the leader of the team i understand the quarterback usually is the highest paid guy on the team sam donald came in from somewhere else balled out and did everything that i just said that jsn is being rewarded for doing but it's not his time to get paid when it's his time to get paid we will see what happens we will see if he does make he will make you're gonna give him 60 million now because that's no that's the type of precedent that you've set i know that and it by this contract it will be up to the coach it will be up to the general manager to manage that situation.

14:02Rich Eisen:I don't think Darnold is the type of guy that's going to be like, wait a minute, you paid him market level. How am I not the highest paid quarterback in the league?

14:09Chris Brockman:He may not be, but his agents might.

14:11Rich Eisen:Maybe so. And then we will see what happens. And if it does not work out for the Seattle Seahawks, then they will send him on his way and they will find another Sam Darnold. Easier said than done. But that is all I'm saying. It does sound harsh. I'm not saying that will happen. I'm not saying that should happen. I'm just saying that if Darnold overplays a hand or an agent overplays a hand, this is what NFL teams will do. Jackson Smith and Jigba, it was his time where he could get paid. He showed up in a way that they were hoping he would show up after DK Metcalf gets sent to Pittsburgh. He showed up in a way that made him a standard bearer for the position in the NFL offensive player of the year.

14:58Rich Eisen:he was able to put the bag on the table and tell John Schneider and management, fill it up. And they did. This is why perhaps fans were, might've been upset that Kenneth Walker, the third was told, thank you for your MVP season. We're not franchise tagging you and we're running the risk of sending you somewhere else. This is part of the reason. That's part of the reason they knew that JSN would pay a running back or a

15:24Chris Brockman:wide receiver. Um, you're Mr. Running back. I know I'm Mr. Running Back. How important and valuable they are. When you're saying paying, what do you mean by that? I mean something like this. When you have Jackson Smith and Jigba. You don't think he has one-year wonder potential? No way. Was he the reason they won the Super Bowl?

15:40Rich Eisen:No. The reason why they won the Super Bowl was the quarterback. And the defense. Right. And the fact that he did what he did throughout the year, too. I mean, he's a major reason why. It wasn't the reason why they won the actual game in Santa Clara. But come on now. These are the things that have to happen in the NFL, and the rest of the locker room is going to take this exactly the opposite way that you are framing this in your topic bar.

16:07Chris Brockman:I think we've gotten a little carried away with these wide receiver salaries.

16:12Rich Eisen:Overreaction. What else you got?

16:14Chris Brockman:All right, let's talk a little bit of the draft. We talked about Mendoza earlier. We know he's going number one. The book on Ty Simpson is kind of all over the place. Yes, sir. Some mocks have him not in the first round at all Some have him late 20s I think I think this kid can play And I think he's going to be drafted higher than everyone thinks What is that? Top 15? Top 16? Top 15, top half of the first round Someone is going to trade up For this guy Someone's going to trade up for Ty Simpson I don't think so I don't think so What is the Steelers plan? That's a good question, I don't know I don't know.

16:55Chris Brockman:It's now March 23rd. I understand. Where's Aaron Rogers? I don't know.

17:00Rich Eisen:I have no idea. Will Howard didn't play last year. I understand that. They don't have to do anything right now. Except that is not a strategy. I don't think there's any need for a strategy. Other than the fact of, let's see what happens when Rogers is either ready to sign or we're ready to sign him. Let's see what happens in the draft. I don't know. I have no idea what their Steelers plan is. Their usual hire process that we see once in a generation spat out a guy who is of a certain age that does not match their previous generation's hiring process. Very true. He's also an offensive guy. And he's also a guy, as we all heard, is a quarterback whisperer, somebody who can bring a quarterback along, somebody who did actually bring one along with the Aaron Rodgers and perfect guy to have there.

18:05Rich Eisen:Yeah, Dak played really well under Mike McCurkey. Correct. Yeah. So getting him a young quarterback right away would be the smart move. Will Howard could be their answer. I don't know. Nobody knows. Why do they have to declare it? They shouldn't. They shouldn't before the draft. Certainly, if what you're saying is that Simpson's stock is going to rise to the point where you think he's going to be drafted higher,

18:26Chris Brockman:why wouldn't you let people think you would take him? I feel like we're a month out. This is about the time when this kind of stuff with the quarterbacks gets ramped up.

18:34Rich Eisen:When this kid has his pro day, it'll look great, and everyone's going to start talking about how great he is and all the top visits and top 30 visits and who's going here and who's going where, and then we'll see what happens on the first night of the draft in Pittsburgh. For the moment, though, as we're sitting here right now in March, the Monday after the round of 32 in March madness, this is more of an overreaction than anything else. This is a little bit of madness, you think? I wouldn't say madness. Let me set the scene.

19:04Chris Brockman:We're in Pittsburgh, right? Well, that's correct. And then the commissioner walks out. We have a trade. It's like maybe 13, pick 13, 14. We have a trade. The Steelers are on the clock. The buzz starts brewing. Ty Simpson gets picked. place goes nuts. That's a scenario that I think the league wants. I think Steelers fans could be actually excited about a quarterback for the first time. When was the last time Pittsburgh was excited about a quarterback?

19:30Rich Eisen:Why would they be even there was a bigger buzz prior to the drafting of Ben Roethlisberger than there is right now for Ty Simpson. About Big Ben. Correct. Coming out of Miami.

19:42Chris Brockman:I don't think anybody really knew Big Ben coming out of college. I was there for the draft. I get it. But he played for Miami of Ohio.

19:48Rich Eisen:I understand that. He didn't play for Alabama. There was a full conversation that maybe the Giants should go get him, and the Steelers definitely need him. He's a big dude. All right. They haven't had somebody like him, yada, yada, yada. Right now, don't feel that for Ty Simpson. Could change between now and the night that you're, you know, talking about.

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20:59Chris Brockman:Yeah, I know you are. We're on just refreshing everything. Mike Reese, all the local beat guys. Yeah, okay. Zolak. You're refreshing. What are we doing? Refreshing. Refreshing for Brown news. Yeah, I want Brown news. Okay. A.J. specifically. Not including him, however. we're going to get at least one more monster trade before the draft. I think you're right about that. It just feels like something. I don't know. I'm thinking like George Pickens, he's tagged. Somebody may make a move for him. Okay. And I think Dallas would be happy to let him go and take some draft picks. Devin H. And look, they say, they say not touchable for what price.

21:34Chris Brockman:Okay. Are they just saying that to get the price up? I like that you're calling your shot. And Max Crosby, I think is still, this is still a possibility.

21:41Rich Eisen:I think one of these three guys gets one. that's the one if anything if anything again right now we're trying to hunt and peck for um you know for any sign that crosby still wants out or at least has created a situation where the raiders uh agree it's better for him to go elsewhere everyone's saying the right thing right now everyone's well i mean everyone's saying that everyone's saying either what they believe which is you know Crosby's a raider um and a raider for life and Crosby saying you know it was meant to be you know it sucked that was terrible what I went through what I you know what I heard when I was in Baltimore how it was delivered to me the news you know I'm flying in a I'm flying in a DC and I'm driving up to Baltimore that that one was a weird one there was there's a lot of weirdness about it yeah and awkwardness about it and you're just wondering if that experience and the emotions that have left that the emotions that were created by that experience have superseded the emotions that Crosby was feeling the minute he was told he was not playing the last two weeks of the season leading to the trade the trade concept the concept of actually trading him right the concept of a trade right you know what I mean has the current situation and its aftermath superseded all of what led to it i don't have an answer for that just yet i don't think anybody does there doesn't need to be an answer now either he won't be medically cleared till june anyway right you know what i mean um so there's no need to have anything happen now midnight is not striking for at least another month let's see what happens that's the only one i i don't think the cowboys are going to reverse field on pickens and i don't think a chance going anywhere either he's so damn good but if you're bottoming out in miami like really bottom out i don't know if that's what you want to do with malik willis he still is a 20 million dollar quarterback yeah that's not nothing i don't i don't see those other two i do see the the crosby uh possibility okay and you talk about a concept of a trade that's the entire spirit of topic for, so I don't think you're overreacting there.

24:03Chris Brockman:Okay, and I want to continue on this idea. We're in the part of the offseason, non-playing season, where you hear about the leaked new rule proposals. Yes. This one, I think, is going to get some traction. The one the Browns threw out there. Five drafts, five years worth of drafts? The league should pass this, the Browns proposal. This would lead to more blockbusters. It would.

24:28Rich Eisen:I don't think it's a great idea. Why? Why? Because you're trading draft choices five years into the future. The NBA does it? Major League, all the other sports do it? The NFL changes coaches on average of almost, you know, what would you say, a quarter of the league changes coaches? Every three, four years? Right, or less than 20 % of the league changes coaches and general managers. If you're an owner, why would you ever want to handcuff a general manager? You want to hire a gentleman. John Eric Sullivan, for instance. Let's give this for instance. Let's just say this guy is the GM that all Dolphin fans are hoping he's going to be.

25:11Rich Eisen:Troy Aikman saw him, identified him. You should go hire this guy. And he would say, 100%, I'll take the job in South Florida and move to a state with no tax. Yeah, absolutely. I'll move to Florida. I'll be the Dolphins GM. I've always wanted to be a GM on my own team. You don't have a draft choice for the next four years in the first round? Oh, I'll stay put in Green Bay and I'll wait for another job.

25:34Chris Brockman:Yeah, but who would they have traded? But if you get down there and you're like, you know what? Hey, Mike Brown, here's four number ones for Joe Burrow.

25:42Rich Eisen:Yeah, sold. It's a perfect way for owners to try and keep a check on themselves. It's the sucker's play. oh why are we not just allowing us to dip years into the future plus why would i acquire a first round pick in the draft four years or five years from now so you're seeing a team right now for this draft for the 2026 draft yep should 27 28 29 30 for the 2031 draft should be able to say i want to trade you a 2031 draft if you're a team why somebody why would you not want to acquire those right now so what yeah you have no idea who that player is going to be you don't know where it could land the team that trades that's to you you're you're you're trading them somebody that's so damn good that suddenly they start of they start a dynasty and that 2031 draft choice is practically a second round pick now or they've been they'll be crappy for three years and then they'll finally hit it with the player you give them and then suddenly that draft choice that you're getting is not nearly as great.

26:47Rich Eisen:You can't identify where it will land in the draft. You can't identify a player that you would even take. That's not the point. Why would you acquire it? Why would you allow yourself to also mortgage the future in a way that will crush your ability to hire the coach you want if you're terrible, the general manager you want if you're terrible? It's a terrible idea.

27:06Chris Brockman:See, you're thinking about it from the seller's point of view. I'm thinking about it from the buyer's point of view also. No, no, no, no, the buyer's. Let's cross the board here. I told you you don't know where to peg it on the draft order or which player you take. Let's cross sport. You think Oklahoma City's feeling good about all those moves they made and all the draft picks they acquired right now? They not only have a budding dynasty. It's a different sport. Yeah, but the concept is still the same. It's team building and team management. This is something that is a good idea. You can also top five protect them.

27:32Chris Brockman:You could top ten protect them. It's terrible. No, I think the NFL should open this up.

27:36Rich Eisen:The NFL should become more like the NBA, where you can't follow your team's draft picks. You can't even, oh, I'm so psyched about this draft choice that we have. Wait a minute. It's lottery protected. What does that mean? We have an apron. We got this. We got that. Oh, wait a minute. We make that trade. We make that trade for somebody in the draft. And he's wearing the hat of the team that just drafted him. No, that's not going to happen. Oh, that's stupid crap. No, no. I'm talking about draft picks. Lord, the last thing you want to do is make your draft like NBA draft. I want more blockbusters.

28:04Rich Eisen:The NFL draft is the most popular draft for a million reasons. This would defray even that. I hate this idea. And I think it won't even be brought to a vote at the end of the day. They won't even bring this thing to the floor. They won't even bring it to the floor. It's so terrible. I bet this passes. It's so terrible of an idea. And every Browns fan knows, oh, perfect, it's our franchise that says, just keep mortgaging the future. Let's just try and not figure this stuff out. Get out of here with this nonsense. Or they're just getting ready to try and trade Miles Garrett, and they want as many first-round draft choices from somebody else's team to get it.

28:38Rich Eisen:By the way, great strategy. All right.

28:40Chris Brockman:You don't think that's a good idea? Miles Garrett for four number ones? What else you got? Somebody would do that. What else you got? Last one, Rich Eisen, and I want to have fun with this. Okay. You think about the best nicknames in sports. Okay. Right? The Great One, Air, all the fun stuff. Okay. We got a potential brewing in the NFL for a great all-time nickname. You got me. Color me intrigued here. What do you got? Caleb Williams. Okay. Going by the Iceman. Yes. I think has a possibility to be the best nickname in sports. It's pretty cool, man. I do like it. He filed some trademark paperwork this week for that.

29:17Chris Brockman:Kyle Brandt, obviously a huge Bears fan, is behind it. We saw the, I mean, he gave his vote, his say of support. We saw the big moment in the playoffs. He throws the bomb, immediately puts his hands back in the warmers. It's great. Ice man.

29:33Rich Eisen:Especially since if he doesn't do well, the other team can have a lot of fun with, you know. Sure, I mean, there's a possibility to go sideways on that. Iceman Meltif.

29:41Chris Brockman:You know, the New York Post back page headlines are good. I think this could be a great one. I have nothing but positive vibes for this kid

29:53Rich Eisen:and everything that he does. I have nothing but wanting the massive amount of success for him to be sort of the next iconic Chicago athlete, certainly since the way that he throws it against the grain of his body looks like one of the previous Chicago iconic athletes. Right, you know what I mean? So I think it's great. I think it is exactly what the Bears fans need and the Bears fans being engaged and excited is great for the league. I think it's great. It's a way for, you know, the Packers to have their fun with him. You know, in the same way where they put the cheese graters on. The cheese graters.

30:29Rich Eisen:Where they put a space heater on the head. You know what I mean? Right, right. I don't know. I just think it's great. and I can't wait to see what next year looks like. And I wish him all the best.

30:39Chris Brockman:Yeah, he's one of the guys, when you're talking about who could be a breakthrough MVP type guy, Caleb, I think, is at the top of the list.

30:45Rich Eisen:For the Chicago Bears, but, you know, we shall see.

30:48Chris Brockman:And I'm here for all the Top Gun and Val Kilmer memes. Oh, sure. You know, because that's what you immediately think about when you think Iceman. So who's Goose? Great question. Dunzey, Luther Burden, yeah, yeah. Whoever they may be taking the draft. Goose Mononga? Now we're talking. Now we're talking. And I think here's the thing, too, in sports. We've gotten away from the nicknames, and I think we need to bring those back. We kind of just say either their first name or their last name. Yeah, and add an Y on it or an I on it. Yeah, we need more nicknames.

31:18Rich Eisen:It's like the bus. Exactly. That's what I'm talking about. Because you could take kids to school.

31:21Chris Brockman:Exactly. Right, I understand it. So let's get the nickname back, and I think Iceman could be the next great one. I agree.

31:27Rich Eisen:Great way for us to finish, Chris. Well done, well done. That wraps it up for us right here on Overreaction Monday. we appreciate you taking this show in we're gonna, I think we got three more overreaction Mondays between now and the NFL can't wait if it's two, now I just bought a third and I got it right I knew you'd go Brady I had to, he looked incredible I knew you'd go Brady, I didn't know it would be right off the top but I should have even guessed that for Chris, I'm Rich, peace out for overreaction Monday

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