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24:27Rich Eisen here. Running a small business means every hire matters. A bad hire costs time and money, but the right one helps your business grow. The challenge? Finding that person without sorting through resumes. That's where LinkedIn Hiring Pro comes in. It screens candidates so you can focus on conversations with qualified talent. With Hiring Pro, you can hire with confidence and build the team you need. Join the 2.7 million small businesses using LinkedIn to hire. Get started by posting your job for free at linkedin.com slash eisen. Terms and conditions apply. Well, I mean, and that's why I'm wondering why you would go by the name of Matty Ice, Matt.

25:05That's why I'm wondering. I mean, that's a beer-infused nickname, and it doesn't fit anymore. Would you agree it doesn't fit anymore, Matt?

25:15Tom Pelissero:Is the natural coming back, or are we making a push for the natural here? No, I'm pointing out that certain nickname that you've had for a long time. I like beer. I do like beer. Right. So when it comes to it, though, you're not slamming them back, right? Is what you're saying. No, I guess I'm drinking responsibly. Okay. Something that would be a natural light of some sort, Matt? are you what are you drinking what are you drinking it's been a long time see you keep making my point why won't you take the natural for me man why don't you just why won't you do it i mean how many times do i have to ask how many times do i have to ask it's just nobody else wants it um are you aware i offered it to stafford your buddy is that right yes he didn't take it either.

26:09Well, I mean, he... That's a no, Matt. Hold on a minute. Excuse me. Hold on. I gave him full disclosure that it was a retread and that you had rejected it. Because I know you guys talk. I know you guys are tight, right? He forgot to mention it to me the last time I saw him. I can't believe that wasn't top of mind for him. Okay, so just on behalf of all my loved ones who are cringing right now, just tell me to move on, Matt, and I'll move on. Just tell me to move on.

26:36Tom Pelissero:Rich you gotta move on You gotta move on I love you but you gotta move on Thank you Matt thank you so much Even if I gave you a t-shirt Or anything Alright Matt I can take a hint after nine years or so In the studio right now

26:59We're on the air guys

27:01Tom Pelissero:I hadn't seen that before I was ill prepared for something alive, just flailing around. Tom Pelissero in for Rich today. So much to get into across the NFL. And it would not be a show, at least for the next several weeks here, if we didn't talk about Shadour Sanders. So let's bring in somebody who was there for the preseason performance that everyone will be talking about. The voice, the Cleveland Browns, our friend Andrew Siciliano. Good to see you. Great to see you, man. Good to see you guys. You're in the other chair now. It's been a while, man. It is weird sitting here. Because that chair is so low.

27:38It is so low. Also, I have the Granger read memorized, and so I kind of wanted to go along with you. Call or click Granger.com. But I got caught because I always said there was supplies and solutions.

27:50Tom Pelissero:It's now a professional-grade product. Oh, there's new copy. It's new copy. I haven't been there in like three weeks. It's very important. And I tripped up. That's how deep it's embedded. Do you know who the kicker was for the Niners in the 1990s? I was thinking about that last night because when we saw the Netflix thing, we're at the premiere. I'm sure you've talked about that already. But yes, I was trying to put names and numbers like when Michael said, you haven't. I didn't look it up last night. I couldn't remember. We didn't have Mike Cofer. We did not have to look it up. We just are Mike Cofer.

28:20Tom Pelissero:It was the main takeaway for me and Brockman last night was you both walked away going Mike Cofer. Mike Cofer. So we didn't sit together. And when Irv said, Michael Irvin in the documentary said, I came over the middle as a bang eight and I've never been. hit that hard in my entire life. And then they show the highlight, but you can't see who it is. It's 28. I'm like, oh, that's Dana Hall. And that was the entire, that was part of the game I was playing. And I generally do, when you watch old games, do this. It's like, can I get that number? Can I get that number? Can I get that number? Because you not only have, well, we all do, which is like the childhood memories, but somehow those names are sticky in your brain from being 10, 12, 15 years old.

29:00Tom Pelissero:But then you also did Red Zone for decades. You covered the NFL. You have more names probably stuck up there from just random dudes in the last 10 years. I think everybody from the 90s. I have to imagine you have completely weird running back names that are sometimes bouncing around when you can't sleep at night. All of a sudden, you just shout out. I don't know that I shout out random running back names, but I did. Keep John Vaughn! I did while doing, that's a good one, the bronze game on Friday. They have a new 35. Toa Tawa is his name from UFL, Michigan Panther, who only signed two weeks ago.

29:40Who's a great story. He was working at a golf course a couple of weeks ago. And now he's back and running the ball in the National Football League. But he's wearing 35. And I said, well, you know, he's wearing 35, running like Barry Redden, who wore 35 for the Browns, I remember. And had a great Thanksgiving Day performance back when I was like 15 years old. And I'm thinking to myself, maybe five people got that. But if you're like a old school Browns fan of my generation, I hope you might have thought. Oh, yeah. Barry Redden. I remember him.

30:06Tom Pelissero:The other part of the other part of my brain that's taken up is when I was on the beat covering like the Vikings and the Packers at various points from 2003 to 2010. And because you're there every day and you remember like the roster churn and some guy who had a number on for like a week. And so now, like I'll go to a Vikings practice. I still live in Minneapolis. is and like i'll see some guy run by in 51 i'm like oh lance johnstone and that's like no that was 20 plus years ago and that's definitely not him but somehow that's the name that appears in my brain yeah and it's like amazing well on multiple levels that you've covered the league this long right i think i did the math this is my 30th year somehow wow in some way shape or form like there are a couple of years you're you're doing national radio and you're going to the Super Bowl and doing Radio Roso.

30:53Is that really only is that really covering the league? We'll count that. They're like three or four years in there.

30:58Tom Pelissero:I count the years when I was at like the Eau Claire Leader Telegram and every now and then I'd get to go cover one game. I'm like, that was a year on the league. I'm going to count that. I had a credential for that year. I was going through my phone and I found a couple of weeks ago my the my credential for my very first regular season game, which was the Bears Cowboys week one Monday night opener at Soldier Field in 1996. Pre-renovations of Soldier Field at that point. And I looked at it and I was like, holy bleep, I am old. I unpacked an entire box of credentials that I had saved going back to like 2003.

31:36Tom Pelissero:And it is, it is a frightening experience. Also the credentials in like 2003, literally just a piece of paper. Now it's like a hologram on a plastic card that cannot be replicated and your face must match the facial recognition technology for you to even get through the gate. There's a sample of your DNA actually under the laminate as well. Right. Supposedly, yeah, I can just walk up to a stadium and like, it'll see me and I can come in. That's apparently if you're in the system, that's now how it works. The credentials I think are just to show people, but apparently, wow, if it recognizes your face and you're on the list, you're in.

32:11Correct. And you have to know where to sit because you didn't tell anyone you were coming. Right. And they may not have a seat or a flip card for you but right hey you can get a meal former NFL players still have that too yes you can go

32:21Tom Pelissero:and get tickets to any game just walk up and get tickets I I think they deserve them I don't know how long often that happens Browns yes let's get to it number 12 yeah he's good to doer Sanders hopefully that wipes out Josh Gordon anyone else who's wearing 12 at least for the moment are we already going down to 12 yeah he was all right you saw it live you called it and you've been around that team throughout training camp here. Shadour Sanders' opportunity comes in very unusual fashion. It's literally because everyone else is hurt, except Joe Flacco, who is 40 and might get hurt at any second.

32:54Tom Pelissero:So let's roll Shadour out there. It looked good to the eye test. I'm not an expert. We had Chase Daniel on yesterday breaking down the X's and O's. He went here to here in this read. I just know watching it, the stuff you heard, the good stuff about Shadour Sanders in college, which is he is going to be poised in the pocket. he is going to be very accurate with the football he's gonna be tough when he needs to take a hit that stuff showed up yeah it didn't look too big for him he looked the part and you're right I mean that's a great way to say it didn't look too big for him it looked like the guy we saw at Colorado which was amazing accuracy pretty good pocket presence we saw the good and the bad like we saw the very subtle movement on that second touchdown to Caden Davis where let's give credit to an undrafted rookie running back in Imani Marshall from App State right who you know crossed the face of the quarterback, got the blitzer, but Shador didn't...

33:42That's Chase Daniel. You're yelling Monte Marshall in your sleep tonight. Monte Marshall, 39. But he didn't flee the pocket. He just had the subtle movement, reset the pocket, and threw a dart into the end zone where only his guy can catch it. Shador Sanders is the, statistically, most accurate quarterback in Division I history. Only two years, but those two numbers... 70 % completion guy. Unbelievable. And you saw that there. He also we saw some of the bad and the thing that always people point out of Colorado And we have seen in the NFL now is him drifting backwards and kind of running around There's a great moment on the sideline there that the Browns caught up with their mic'd up and he was mic'd up in which He was saying to Miles Garrett on the sideline like hey I would love to do that against you and he's like yeah You're like you're a nice kid.

34:30Don't do that to me basically like I you don't you don't need that from me I'm coming after you. They've tried to coach that out of him. You saw that in the game, but you saw a guy that looked the part. The moment was not too big for him. And to be fair, he hadn't gotten a lot of reps. He is fourth on the depth chart for a reason. He was the fifth round pick. Fifth round picks don't start in the NFL. Russell Wilson's a third round pick. People point to Dak Prescott, but Dak Prescott, that was out of necessity. Tony Romo was hurt. Brock Purdy started because Jimmy Garoppolo was hurt. Exactly. you go back to the the bucks in the 70s the expansion bangles in the 60s that's the last time a quarterback drafted in six or seven or eight ever got to play when he was given the opportunity which is all you can ask for he nailed it and this week will be fascinating and so if

35:20Tom Pelissero:you're kevin stefanski and again you're around that team all the time like you you know the dynamics my understanding through the offseason was they truly wanted to watch all these guys Is it probably Flacco? Maybe. Yeah, probably. To get the credibility in your locker room, if somebody else outplays him, you start the guy who's going to give you the best chance. But it was going to be hard for both Shadour or Dylan Gabriel to learn an NFL offense. They both had a long way to go in terms of that. How realistic is it here? Again, if Shadour continues this over and we'll see how they handle the joint practices in the game this week, how realistic is it to say they give actual consideration to starting Shadour?

35:55I think it is, and let's not aggregate this or clickbait this. It's already happening. I think it is unrealistic. If you look at the Browns' schedule, it's home against Joe Burrow, on the road against Lamar Jackson, home against Jordan Love, on the road against Jared Goff, then home game in London against the Vikings, a well-rested Vikings team that would have played the week before in Dublin. Then no bye. And you come home on the road against Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers, and they will be rested because they played week four in Dublin and are taking their by week five. That's a gauntlet. There's no way you're playing a rookie quarterback right out of the gate.

36:33It's just not going to happen. So in my eyes, it was always either Pickett or Flacco, Flacco or Pickett. And right now, Kenny Pickett, we'll see what he can do in Philadelphia, just isn't ready for 11 on 11.

36:44Tom Pelissero:Which is likely Joe Flacco. If you're not ready for 11 on 11 on August 12th, what are the odds that you are going to be able to close the gap and be on the field? Dylan Gabriel also, he returned to practice yesterday through camp. Again, comparing can be difficult because everybody's out there. Some are against the twos, some against the threes. But Dylan Gabriel versus Shador Sanders, what did you see? It's a hard comparison to make because of what you just laid out. Dylan Gabriel is getting far more opportunities, at least through the first couple of weeks, than Shador Sanders. He was, if you want to pay any attention to preseason game packet depth charts, which you should not, right?

37:21But it's so fun. PR makes them? It says or about the starting quarterback. Let's tweet that 75 times. Fun fact, I'm doing Kevin Stefanski's pre-game interview last Friday. And we're on tape. This played on the radio. And I said, by the way, preseason depth charts, who makes those? And he looks over to PR. And he's like, I don't know. Does PR make those? I don't even know. Every coach blames PR.

37:52Tom Pelissero:Every coach blames PR. And in reality, I don't know if that's always the case. I'm not using Kevin of anything. I'm just saying I don't know if that's always the case. But there was this thing yesterday. Well, the week two depth chart is out. Nothing has changed. Can you remember in all your years covering the league when a preseason depth chart in the game book or the packet changed? It's not a horse race in August. Coaches don't want to tell you anything. They're not changing anything. Look at the reps. The only time is if you name a starter at a position, they might move it. It doesn't matter.

38:28Anyway, back to your question. Dylan Gabriel, much like Shador, has had good days and bad. He's had more opportunities with ones and twos to have good days. I was not at practice yesterday. I will be there for the joint practice tomorrow in Philly. From everything I heard, Dylan Gabriel had a really good day yesterday, but Shador did as well. So they're both rookies. they're both going to have those moments where you're like, yeah, you can't do that. I'm excited to see what Gabriel can do in a game. And I think we may get that this week because, like I said, Shador is the most accurate quarterback in D1 history.

39:01No one has thrown more touchdowns in D1 history than Dylan Gabriel. He's not a slouch. Started a lot of games to get there. He played six years.

39:11Tom Pelissero:Highly productive. Highly productive. And the way that they looked at him and teams looked at him was just, all right, the upside on him is he's mini Bo Nix. Same offense, same 60-plus starts, tons of touchdown passes, plays similarly. He's just small. He's short. Yeah. Not small. He's more thickly built, but he is short. He was standing next to Bryce Young in the joint practice in Carolina last week, just in between periods, and they were talking. And they are similar in height, but Gabriel is thicker. He's bigger, thicker. Bryce is slight. now dylan is not baker mayfield who's you know a brick you know what house right yeah and baker wears like the gigantic rib pads that make him look even bigger than he actually is like he is he's a square quarterback when you're standing next to him 15 in the preseason do we see flacco um i don't think so i'd be surprised mate so let's go back so the third preseason game next week is in cleveland and it's the rams coming to town sean mcveigh is not going to play anybody if sean had his choice he wouldn't even put his first team on the plane right right like why why do i want their back to lock up forget about matthew stafford he doesn't want anyone on a cross-country flight that isn't going to play the game matthew stafford wakes up and his back is like yes it is we're getting old i get it uh i i'd be surprised if flacco plays in the preseason here's the other dynamic here and there's two parts to this one when we're talking about playing a rookie quarterback part of the issue besides the fact that these guys have so much to learn and there is that curve is also if you do start the rookie and then he struggles against that gauntlet you talked about early in the schedule now you have to pull him yeah and most of those stories don't end up like bryce young where eight weeks later ten weeks later andy dalton's in a car wreck and bryce young who actually matured and led through his benching gets back out there and plays a lot better most Most of the time it's, well, that's it.

41:08Tom Pelissero:You kind of gave up on him now. And then what does that do to the dynamic? Flip side of it, if you're putting Joe Flacco out there and things don't look good, even in a preseason game. All right, let's get him out one series, get his feet wet. And that series just isn't very good because it's preseason football and you're not game planning and you're just kind of throwing whatever out there and it's not good. And then Shador comes in and lights it up against the twos and the threes. is just going to make this entire megaphone louder that we're talking about, keeping Flacco away until you get to the real games.

41:40There is a strategy that's potentially involved in that, too. Yeah, there is. And the hype train has left the station. I kind of feel... 100%. Do you sense a Tebow vibe? Literally talked about that on the show yesterday. Okay. This is the closest thing. So it's not just me.

41:55Tom Pelissero:Tebow was a first-round pick, and they traded up to get him, and it was Josh McDaniels hugging everybody, and it was its own story. But there was that effect where I don't remember seeing another preseason game. You were on the broadcast. I was watching it. And every time Shadour completed a pass, they would cut away in Charlotte to fans wearing Shadour's jersey and celebrating. Tom, we're on the bus. I don't remember that for anyone besides Tebow. Sorry, I cut you off. We're on the bus going to the game. And I pull up my ticketing app, right? And I'm like, all right, let's see what it is. Now, a lot of this is price gouging.

42:29People trying to get away with, hey, I'll put them up there. high. Chris and I go through this all the time when we try to sell our tickets, right? It's like, how high do you put them? I'm like, what's the sweet spot? Let's see what I can get, right? Lower deck seats two hours before the game. We're going for like$300.

42:43Tom Pelissero:For a preseason game? For a preseason game. Two and a half million people watched something other than the Hall of Fame game in the preseason. That is absurd, but with the Tebow thing, I almost feel like there's a Russian bot army out there. And I don't think there is. I'm not saying that. But you can just see I don't know if they're focused on Shadour. You can say his name and the slings and arrows because people are going to bring their own opinion and they're going to attack you regardless of what you say. You can heap praise on the kid and they're still going to come after you. It's just, I've never seen anything like it other than Tebow.

43:22Tom Pelissero:I guess the only other one that would be similar, I would still say like the most, like the world's colliding, viral moments colliding was the 2014 preseason, I believe it was, Michael Sam sacked Johnny Manziel and did the money sign. And I was like, this is everything all at once right here. I called that game too. There you go. Rams preseason TV. But even Manziel, there was a lot of hype around him. But I mean, that was another Cleveland guy. It wasn't this. And maybe that's because of the fact that he went in the fifth round. The fact that you had everything surrounding the draft. We got to take a break.

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46:00Tom Pelissero:Welcome back to the Rich Eisen Show. Tom Pellicero in for Rich. Andrew Siciliano continuing to hang out with us right here. Not only the Voice of the Browns, but you have a new show that based on the number of logos I saw in the promo graphic. Yeah, with a lot of logos. It appears to be on everywhere. Look at this. We've got inside coverage. Yahoo, YouTube, that's Apple Podcasts, Spotify, I believe. Those are the two standard Spotify, the two standard podcast platform logos there. Monday through Thursday, 6.30 Eastern. Tell me about it. Does it look like they put, like, eye black? Do I have black?

46:35I don't know. That's a weird look. That's what you look like now, Andrew. No, no, no. I guess so. Anyway, that's an old photo. Yeah, I'm excited. So it's a new project on Yahoo, 6.30 Eastern time, live on YouTube. All their great reporters, Jory Epstein and Charles Robinson and Frank Schwab and other guys like Nate Tice, who's amazing. Frank Harmon. Throw them all together. And yeah, going live on the YouTubes at night. Sensational. Yeah. 3.30 Pacific. Right. You're knocking off in time for happy hours. Tremendous. Love it. 3.30 Pacific. And that's fun. And also doing the Hard Knocks podcast as well.

47:12The official Hard Knocks podcast. Episode 2 is dropping tonight on HBO Max at 9 p.m. Eastern time. and had Ryan Fitzpatrick on the first one, on this one, have Pat Harris, who is now directing Hard Knocks this year. He has been one of the directors for the last decade. He has amazing old Hard Knocks stories. But what was cool is they gave him the job this year, and they said, hey, you're going to direct Hard Knocks. Okay, cool. And then they found out it was the Bills. He is from Rochester. He could ride his bike to St. John Fisher, played high school quarterback right up the road. Imagine you got to cover the Vikings.

47:47That was amazing, right? I got to do the Browns here. But like saying, hey, you want to produce or direct hard knocks with the Vikings. And that's what he gets to do with his hometown team.

47:57Tom Pelissero:It does seem, and I know this to be the case, they definitely don't want to go leaning into news. I don't think we're going to see cuts. We are getting, you know, a taste of the people. It seems like more than anything, right? That's the focus so far, at least in episode one. And in episode two, you see more of that, a lot of backstories. But you also do see some conflict because now there is some conflict, obviously. and maybe a resolution. Is James Cook acknowledged? Because I don't think his name was even mentioned in the first episode. It is acknowledged in this episode. It is. Yes. We're covering it.

48:25Yes. I don't want to spill the entire episode, but yes, absolutely.

48:31Tom Pelissero:That's going to be awkward if they get a deal done today. It's back on the practice field. That's going to be some quick late editing. Old school hard knocks right there. 9 p.m. Eastern time. 9 p.m. Eastern tonight. And then the podcast drops immediately. Podcast will drop, I believe, audio afterwards and then video the next day. Got it. Yeah. So excited for that as well. Who else is on that podcast? Just me. And me and whoever we have as a guest. Yeah. So last week, Ryan Fitzpatrick was Bill's legend. Like, he's played for nine teams. But, like, in his heart, he's kind of a Buffalo Bill. Still showing up shirtless on the field.

49:04And he's amazing. And then Pat Harris. And then a special guest next week as well.

49:08Tom Pelissero:I was going to say, speaking of shirtless, I figured Deion Dawkins, just anything surrounding the Bills, he would just show up. so you're not even invited but dion dawkins he's now on the podcast why i don't know he just he called in and is he not one of your favorite people he is awesome every time that he comes on comes on the insiders and like it's just it's always fun they he's such a gregarious dude he was one of the like driving forces behind this project line that's right award in the first episode he kind of freaked me out because he has his little daughter in the front seat while he's drifting in like an 80s era BMW but everyone's okay Coco's okay that's his daughter she loved it she loved it welcome back to the radio audience here the Rich Eisen show Andrew Siciliano here with me Tom Pellicero in studio right now uh Matthew Stafford as we're speaking here not on the practice field again you did their preseason games for years I know you know a lot of people over there you've also seen Matthew Stafford pull the oh is he not going to make it routine many times both in training camp and game weeks and then somehow he's always out there what is your level of concern if you're a Rams fan or somebody in that building right now about Stafford is back I would say it's a little bit more than it was a few weeks ago I think that is fair and natural we're getting closer and closer we're now officially inside of four weeks until game number one I think uh that gives you some anxiety at the same time it is still four weeks and he is the kind of guy that can roll out of bed without practicing and still go no look 30 yards down field, cover two hole shot to Puka and he's going to tap the toes and he's going to be back and everyone's going to be happy again.

50:43He can still do that. I think both can be true. They have one of the better backup quarterback situations in the NFL and Jimmy Garoppolo, a guy that came this close to winning a Super Bowl. Jimmy can play. At the same time, I don't know, this is going to sound like a shot, but I don't know that they're a Super Bowl contender if they don't have Matthew Stafford. I'll ask you, do you think if Jimmy Garoppolo's got to play the entire season, we're talking about this team in the Super Bowl?

51:07Tom Pelissero:I think they're a good team. They're a playoff team. In the rare events through recent NFL history in which a starting quarterback like that gets injured or misses the season, we have seen teams do aggressive things to find another solution. The Rams did it some years ago, even plucking Baker Mayfield and starting him three days later. In this case, there just so happens to be a guy who's currently making$27.5 million to be a backup in Atlanta, who suddenly might have a great deal of value to a Sean McVay-led offense that runs essentially the same scheme that Kirk Cousins came up playing with the Kyle Shanahan's of the world, and then also played in with Kevin O 'Connell in Minnesota.

51:50Tom Pelissero:So this would be as much as, and I know I've made this point on the show before, I don't know that Kirk would accept a trade just anywhere. You know, somebody who has no connection to him. You know, I don't even want to say a name and jinx somebody, but some quarterback goes down and it's like a totally different offense. He might go, I'm good. My family's here. I'm making a ton of money to not play football. I'll stay. The Rams open up? I would think Kirk Cousins would be pretty excited about that opportunity. I would ask aloud, is Kirk Cousins coming off an Achilles, now two years removed, that much of an upgrade over Jimmy Garoppolo?

52:27Tom Pelissero:The history would say Jimmy Garoppolo is not starting 17 games for you regardless. Correct. And then Stetson Bennett would be your backup. He's probably not making it the entire season. And Stetson Bennett played a lot of good college football, has not really played NFL football, and missed his entire rookie season, is now one step away. Correct. I don't know that they would feel entirely comfortable, despite Stetson's good performance this weekend. I don't know that they'd feel entirely comfortable as him as the number two. I think Jimmy Garoppolo is good. I also think there's a part of Sean McVay, I mean, of course, Jimmy Garoppolo is good.

52:57There's a part of Sean McVay that kind of wants to, not wants to, he doesn't want to be forced into this situation, but he would embrace the challenge of proving that he can go win a Super Bowl with Jimmy Garoppolo. Does that make sense? Oh, 100%. 100%.

53:14Tom Pelissero:A very friendly Kyle-Sean rivalry. You know what I'm getting at here. Yes, absolutely. At the same time, I think they're crossing their fingers and holding their breath that Matthew's back is going to feel okay. Look, he had that trailer. You saw that trailer in front of the field yesterday? Put that photo up real quick. What do we got? Does it not look like Jimmy Garoppolo has dreadlocks in this photo? Can we pull that back, the Jimmy Garoppolo photo? He has dreads? Look, right there. Does it not look like windblown hair is coming up? Oh, because is that Devontae behind him? He's got a new look, right?

53:47Tom Pelissero:Sorry. I just got lost in his eyes. Sorry. You got lost? But Andrew looks like they look like they'd be cousins or something. Someone said that to me once, and I'm flattered, to be honest with you. I get the Jake Gyllenhaal's a lot better than some of the other horrible things I see on Twitter making comparisons. If we created a nesting doll situation, you could be like two steps down from Jimmy. I'm flattered. I don't know what to say. I'm stunned and I'm flattered. Yeah. You got the new show, Yahoo, and YouTube, and Spotify, and Apple, inside coverage every Monday through Thursday, live, 6.30 Eastern Time.

54:21Tom Pelissero:What else are you excited to talk about going into the season? You'll be Browns all the time, Browns broadcast, Brown podcast. But when you get into the season, you're talking about everything. What are you looking forward to? Honestly, like looking at the rookies, looking at Cam Ward over the weekend. And I know people go on and on about, well, he's not getting respect. Now, there's a difference between respect and attention. I don't think they're the same thing. I know there's some overlap, certainly. I liked what I saw from Cam Ward. I'm still fascinated by how the Micah Parsons thing is going to shake out.

54:49you and I were there last night and Jerry got kind of needled about it and he wouldn't go there, which said something. Al kind of tried to ask the question without asking the question.

54:58Tom Pelissero:And even Al Michaels was like, I'm not going to derail this whole thing by doing this right now. I mean, how is that going to play out? And I'm also fascinated by the quarterback movement here. You mentioned Kirk Cousins. There are other veteran quarterbacks out there. If there is an injury, right? Like the Giants don't need Jameis. They don't need Jameis at all. I love him. Tannehill's sitting out there. He didn't play last year. Carson Wentz is hanging around somewhere. The Browns have two veteran quarterbacks. The Browns have six quarterbacks right now. They do have six, but they have two at the top there veterans.

55:33You're the best. Likewise. Thanks for being here, Andrew. Appreciate it. Thanks for having me. Goodbye. A lot more to come.

55:41Tom Pelissero:You know when you're locked in, focused and fearless. Welcome to the WNBA. Your vision narrows. You can't look away. Every assist, every stop, every logo three. From beyond the logo. Every did you see that moment? You bet. What records are going to be broken this season? All of it right here. Lock in. It's the WNBA on ESPN all season long.