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23:56Rich Eisen:So your season-long storyline arc that you're interested in is the Niners? Yes. Okay. I want to see what happens because it's like this. You're right. It's like a team that had this window. You just signed your quarterback. Where does this go? Are you actually a superpower in the NFC or is this a mirage? That went total 10.5, by the way, 49ers. 10.5, yeah. We had Jordan Rodrigue from The Athletic, who's awesome, on our show this week. and we were just talking about Shanahan and her being at camp and just the demeanor and the energy around him and how he's such a figure of massive respect in the league.

24:33He's just missing that chip. That's the one thing that separates him from being potentially like an iconic coach of this era. So let's see if he can do it. I think Stafford's back.

24:47Rich Eisen:If we got the green light there, Rams are the class of that division. Period. I understand the Niners have names that I adore. McCaffrey and Kittle and obviously Trent Williams when healthy. Defensively, they still have Bosa and Warner and they got Salabak, which is a secret sauce. I think Niner fans have been very vocal about them having been missed significantly defensively. but the Rams are younger. The Rams are last year showed what they can do. The Rams gave the Eagles their toughest punch of the playoffs last year. You know, I know the sentimentality rightfully so surrounding Cooper cup.

25:33Rich Eisen:They, they have Devante Adams instead. Puka Nakua is a top five wide receiver. Kyron Williams doesn't come off the field. I mean the Rams are not the class of the I can see that they are but Stafford's back feels like one of the biggest X factors heading into the season how long will it last he's had these injuries before I just I think that's kind of like kind of cross your fingers that he survives the first major seven hits he takes from BMF type individuals you're just you're a skeptic I'm seeing you Dan You're shaking your head. No, I'm not. Do you not know whose house it is? I am. Yes, it is.

26:14Rich Eisen:Ram's house. I understand that. They make that very clear. We're also. It's out. Yeah. Very clear. In case anyone's wondering, the owner of the domicile. Sorry, go ahead. I was just going to say we're both Yankees fans, Rich, and my hero growing up was Don Mattingly. And I just have a thing about backs and professional athletes and how sometimes they don't get better. And to Mark's point, they're going to keep Stafford in mothballs and protect him in every way possible. But once the Bulls start flying, how much do you believe in Jimmy G in 2025 if something were to go sideways health-wise early this season?

26:52And then it gets a little dicey. But to your point, they are a team that I think you have to give so much credit to Snead and McVay and what they've been able to do to win a title. And then everybody's like, oh, they bought that thing on credit, whatever that meant, which drove me crazy. oh now they're going to go in the tank for several years it's like nah they're just actually now going to switch up their uh policies they're going to draft well they're going to build this thing up again and they are a team on the rise it is the quarterback and his health that really is the only thing that has me as a skeptic handicap the nfc north for me what do you got what do you think lions are my team um it gets tough.

27:34I had the Packers with a much higher win total than anyone else on our show. Come on, Sassy. HTC Power Rangers, you had them number three. I just think when it all shakes out, Packers three. I had them at three and I got filleted for it and I understand, but it's like you got to project ahead sometimes with like a mystical feeling of what might happen to this team. Sure, of course. But I still think the way to handicap right now would probably be from a national perspective. Lions, Packers, Vikings, And then the Bears thing, like, we'll see. One of these teams has to take some hits, and we'll see about the quarterback, but they're a better team.

28:07Yeah, I feel like people are sleeping on the Vikings. I don't know if it's, you know, top of the division, but if this is, we have a quarterback whisperer in Minnesota. We sure do. We have one of the best young coaches in football, and he handpicked that kid. And he has a chance now to really build the team around him. And I don't understand. I understand maybe, what was it, 14-3 last year with Darnold. I'm not talking about that, but I think the general sentiment is that, yeah, like the Bears are on the rise, and they have two Titans in the division, and then the Vikings are just in the mix. I totally see them as a playoff team this season.

28:42Rich Eisen:The narrative I see is the Lions lost both coordinators, so they can't be as good. You hear the Packers, you just don't know who the heck is getting, other than Josh Jacobs, who's the one who's going to rule the roost and get the football, right? With Jordan Love taking a step back, can he stay healthy? and that's the Packers question mark about them. J.J. McCarthy is obviously the question mark of the Vikings. And then the whole idea is that the Bears are going to be better, but they might just be the best last place team in the National Football League. Like that's the way I see the NFC North being handicapped as we go into the playing season.

29:16Dan Campbell called it the best team he's had.

29:18Rich Eisen:I heard that. He said that he's going to be tough cutting roster, top to bottom. Well, it's because he's probably not seen so many healthy people in a long time. That's fair. You know what I mean? He's like, wait a minute. Everybody on this roster, you can play. You're not an injured reserve. But, you know, that's the idea. It's like, was Goff's success built off of Ben Johnson or not? And I think that that is a question mark that people are going to see. And then we'll see how much of a quarterback whisperer is Ben Johnson. I just love the fact that he is openly talking about this offense in a way that is a tough love so far.

29:55Rich Eisen:And I think that that's a benefit. I really do. They needed that. And such, obviously, a great football city, Chicago. They've never really had a truly great quarterback. I liked a lot what I saw from Caleb Williams in horrible circumstances last year. He didn't say a word, and everything that we found out from Seth Wickersham was borne out. All of his concerns about being drafted by the Bears was actually happening while he was getting his butt handed to him, and he didn't say a word. He didn't say a word. And he made plays, and if you look at his, I know counting stats aren't what it's all about, to a lot of people, but he had a pretty good year as a rookie when you consider everything in that Netflix quarterback series.

30:34Seeing Ben Johnson and Jared Goff, and I respect Jared Goff. I don't think he gets enough respect, but Ben Johnson, seeing the way they work together, it does make me wonder, yes, what Detroit looks like with him and Glenn gone, and also how much the Chicago offense can surge with a guy that knows what he's doing.

30:52Rich Eisen:Last one on the NFC for you, Mark Sessler, Dan Hanzus, the team that's more likely to take a step forward, the commanders or the Bucs? I only ask those questions that make people make that noise. I love it. That's a thorny one. I could see the Bucs as, I could see the commanders regressing just a little bit because late game situations, one score games, everything kind of went right, and it was this feel-good operation. I think they're a good team. I kind of see the Bucs as an NFC title team. I think they've shown a number of years in a row that they can go beat people in the playoffs, and they're stacked.

31:28And if you get the Baker-Mayfield from before, now it's another new coordinator. I mean, this is happening all over the league, but I've been into Baker as an old-school Browns fan, and I'm happy for him. But that is a loaded team that's been very consistently built by Jason Light.

31:43Rich Eisen:Yeah. He keeps bringing them back. It's unbelievable. He keeps them together. He does. And Godwin keeps coming back, you know, like the operation patient. but it looks like he's coming back again. And Abuka apparently is off the charts. He seems like he's a dude. Another weapon. I know, another Ohio State guy who can catch it. I think your question was who's more likely to take a step forward. Yes, sir. I mean, the commanders, that means the Super Bowl, right? That is correct. I can't get there. I can't go there, but it could still be a very exciting and successful season for Washington fans, and they deserve that as well.

32:18But, yeah, I think the Bucs, I think one thing I've learned and we've learned because we've both showered Baker with praise in this Tampa Bay run is that he's a guy that now I trust to handle the OC change. He's shown it twice and continues to thrive. And he's the type of guy that, and it's not a twist of the knife because we've talked about the Baker Browns thing. He's such a - For years. For years. It's such an easy guy to root for and does Baker have a January heater in him? Oh, that would be amazing. I think he does. He could if things fell the right way and then yeah if Jaden Daniels in Washington gets an NFC title game, so too could the Bucs.

32:59Maybe they both do get it. We'll get that answer. How about that?

33:03Rich Eisen:A Baker January heater. That might be a good fantasy team name. That could be a late ad. Just under the wire before we just choose our fantasy team name for a draft that's going on right now. So that would be amazing. And plus, again, it's after Brady. You never want to be the guy after the guy. You want to be the guy after the guy after the guy. And he shows up post-Brady. And Kyle Trask is no longer there. Apparently they're releasing him today. And so this is Baker's show. And Jason Light keeps bringing everybody back. They do have that defense that Todd Bowles can dial up. That's the sneaky NFC team that I think people might be overlooking.

33:47Rich Eisen:You never know. Mark Sessler, Dan Hanzo is here on the Rich Eisen Show. In the AFC, are you guys of the mindset it is the Ravens conference to win? Or people are saying that just because we just can't say the Chiefs again. People are just fatigued. I have fatigue of Chiefs fatigue. Does that cancel each other out? I think so. I think I'm really excited about the season in Kansas City. Okay, I know that fatigue of fatigue equals excitement. You know what I do have fatigue of, actually? fatigue of like this is Baltimore's year fatigue. I do kind of have that. That's been going on for a long time.

34:19But they are taking incremental steps right? It went from great regular seasons to puttering out in the playoffs and then last year even though it ended in heartbreak with the Mark Andrews two point conversion play Lamar led a spirited comeback and I thought put to bed some of this like oh Lamar in January stuff. So the only next step now is to get over the hump but man I kind of see them 1A and 1B in terms of the over-the-hump gang with the Buffalo Bills. Those are two organizations that are under enormous pressure to get to the Super Bowl, and they share a conference, so someone's going to be bitterly disappointed.

34:58Maybe both. Well, sorry, the Ravens had a very, in a way, an offseason that is atypical for them. They didn't lose a lot of players. They kept a lot of coaches. Like it's been consistent, but the Bills have also been so consistent for years. And it's like, I just kind of look at them the way that I looked at Ravens teams of old, where there isn't a lot of turnover. Like there's some young players on defense and we need to see some of the young players on offense. But I kind of view Buffalo as that team. It's like, when is this going to happen? I think it's happening this season or it maybe does not happen at all for Buffalo.

35:33Really? Well, I mean, Alan's not getting any older. I mean, you could tweet that out and I'll get destroyed by someone. But it's just it feels like how many more years can we just assume that Buffalo is going to win the AFC and they they don't do it?

35:45Rich Eisen:I don't know. It just seems we're in the AFC right now world where Chiefs, Bills, Ravens are going to make it in some way, shape or form. Yes. To the final four. Right. And it just depends on when do you face the Chiefs? Does it end your season? Could we possibly see a Ravens-Bills AFC championship game where somebody eliminates the Chiefs for the other and they make it? And the other certainty is the Texans are 100 % getting the first wild card window on a Saturday. You can write that in if they win the AFC South, which I think they're favored to do again this year. But it's not a revolving door at the Final Four spot in the AFC.

36:29Rich Eisen:They've made it two years in a row, and that's been the final four. And the question is, who can break through? Is it the Chargers? Could it be the Bengals if they put it together? Could it be another AFC South team? Could it be the Broncos? I mean, the Broncos have a massive bandwagon heading into the season right now. Massive. That's what I find too popular at this point. I was in, and then I'm kind of like over it. Maybe the popular thing could actually be true, though. It can. It can be. But we have a thing on our show, the team of HTC, and we like to get behind a team that doesn't have a ton of buzz.

37:03And I feel like when we did it in June, the bandwagon was pretty empty. Oh, you did it for the Broncos in June? Yeah, this summer. We were like, we like this Broncos team. People forget that now, but that was... We had our old friend James Palmer on the show. Nice hair. Yeah, beautiful hair. And information, not in that order. Great information. And then the way James tells stories, he's like, I was going out on the field at a Broncos facility, And, you know, the head coach, he just walks right up to me. He says, Jimmy, I love this team. I love this team. And I buy it because it is a great team.

37:33This is a loaded team. Yes. But in a loaded division. Yeah. The way you said it was very foreboding at the end there. It's just like, don't you? I mean, some Patrick Mahomes third and six roll out for six and a half yard game to knock out the Broncos. You can see it.

37:49Rich Eisen:You can see that about anything. Because Mahomes, you wouldn't talk about X factors that will determine the season. I think the number one is how Mahomes is internalizing the Super Bowl loss. And if he has internalized it in the manner that he's showing up physically, you could see he's in the best shape he's ever been in, entering a playing season. But he doesn't talk about it. He's not out there on men's health covers like Luka. You know what I mean? Honestly. Luka did a nice job there. He's not talking about, I heard what you all said about us losing to the Eagles. I heard what everybody's saying about we were lucky.

38:25Rich Eisen:I saw the meme from the Coldplay concert of a referee hugging me or I'm hugging a ref. Like, he's not saying anything like that. And I'm wondering how he's internalizing it. Same thing with Kelsey. You know, same thing with Kelsey. Same thing with all of them. They are a better team. They're better. They got better. Everyone's talking about this Josh Simmons guy finally being an anchor at that left tackle spot. He's a rookie. we need to see it first. You know, and obviously Khalil Mack and Harbaugh on the YouTube game in Brazil are going to test that out right away. But I'm wondering how the Chiefs show up this year and everybody's like just fatigue plus, you know, times fatigue equals excitement.

39:06Our like exhaustion does not have anything to do with what actually happens on the field. If you think about it, it's two separate things. But, and Andy Reid, I mean, this is like the eighth year in a row of they played extra games over every other team and he's found a way to get it new and refresh it each training camp.

39:21Rich Eisen:Right. So I trust, I mean, I kind of trust the operation. At the end of the day, though, who wins the AFC? I'm going to say the Bills. I'm going to say they're going to do it. I just think it's... Their final high mark season. I think it's their time. And, you know, the other, I do like the chances of a Joe Burrow maniac season. I just got this weird feeling about Burrow this year. You just had that, though. Yeah, but like one where they don't start 0-3 and it's kind of buried a little bit. Burrow going absolutely nuts. And maybe we get a Burrow-Josh Allen AFC title game. Which would, by the way, be amazing.

40:01Rich Eisen:Incredible. We are living in a very good time with quarterbacks right now. Certainly, you remember the quaint years, probably when you were starting your pod? What's going to happen with the AFC when Brady and Peyton Manning retire? Remember that? And Big Ben. And now, you know. Feels like two decades ago. It does, but, you know, Burrow and Allen and Lamar and Patrick and Stroud is now put together two nice seasons. We've never seen more quarterback talent in the NFL than right now. But it's easy to poo-poo you and it's enjoyable. That's what it is. Which I understand. And you need to bring up Justin Fields when we talk about that list.

40:41Rich Eisen:Well, let's do this. We're going to take a break. We're going to come back and we're going to get personal.

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42:31Rich Eisen:Radio audience returns in about three minutes, so let's continue this conversation here on the Roku Sports Channel with Heed the Calls, Dan Hanzus and Mark Sessler. We didn't discuss Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers. Your best guess as to how that season plays out. Why don't we start with the Browns fan and then we'll go to the Jets fan and they need to say that so we understand where these comments are coming from. I would say bland. But I do think that the defense will still be able to win them games. And Aaron Rodgers at this point is a mid-tier quarterback. I don't love their weaponry. And they just feel ticketed.

43:05We just mentioned all these powerful teams in the AFC. Yes, sir. And the AFC North schedule for each one of those teams is rugged.

43:13Rich Eisen:Because they play the NFC North as well and the AFC East. Right. So for Pittsburgh, like, do they strike me as a team that's going to survive and overtake any of these bigger giants? I don't think so. I think they kind of are who they are, and they could have maybe thought about a deeper rebuild, but they believe that they're still a wildcard team or a playoff-type team. I don't know if I believe that at this point. And in fact, I do not. Yeah, I think coming out of the last two years with the Jets, I came out of last season saying, okay, Rogers is, he's a quarterback that can be successful. It was troubling when the competition would go up.

43:51His play usually went down. And I just wonder if what the Steelers are expecting is to get the old, old Rogers, but they're just going to get old Rogers. And in that division, I mean, I see nine wins. I see him being in a Tomlin zone. Listen, I think looking at Rodgers' abilities this year

44:11Rich Eisen:through the prism of the last two is unfair. I really believe that. First year, blows out his Achilles. Especially that year. Second year, he comes back, blows out his Achilles. And, you know, three games in, being 2-1, they have a terrible home day against the Denver Broncos, and they're flying off to London, and the owner is saying we should bench him. And the head coach is pushing back on this sort of thing. And then the head coach gets fired. And then the defensive coordinator takes over. There's a new offensive coordinator that comes in. What a holy heck of a mess. Even Rodgers can't even navigate something like that.

44:50Rich Eisen:I understand his diminished physical abilities. I get that. Neck up, he's still one of the best. His arm apparently is as good as it's ever been. And we'll see what happens with DK. We'll see what happens. I understand that the receiving core might not overwhelm, but the Steelers seem to always find a receiver you're not thinking of. John Smith has added. We'll see what the running backs can do. The defense is pretty darn good. And the thing about Rodgers is that Steelers aren't asking him, please figure everything out for us. You know what I mean? But is he okay with that? I think he is. I think at this stage of his career, I think he absolutely is.

45:27Rich Eisen:Now, we did predict when you talk about Bland, right, But it's going to look like offensively bland. We were talking yesterday, TJ, Chris, and yours truly, that if I had to guess, there might be a week six, week seven story coming out somewhere that there's an Arthur Smith, Aaron Rodgers gear grind. Right. You know, and because neither of them, you know, suffer fools, but that could be fatigue plus fatigue equals excitement. They could cancel each other out. I don't see disaster here. I see that there is a plan, and if Rodgers can remain healthy at this advanced age, I see it working. But if we're saying nine wins, which is not a disaster at all, how many wins would you push for?

46:13Rich Eisen:Oh, I'll tell you this right now, not just because I have an answer, but the radio audience is about to return. Back on the Rich Eisen Show radio network with Hansus and Sessler of Heed the Call. Mark, you just asked me the number of wins for the Steelers. I'd say ten. I have the Steelers second in the division and I have them being a playoff team and in the same way that I'd love to see a Mayfield heater just Aaron Rodgers in a Steelers uniform in a playoff game potentially for the last time in his career um lock me in and it could be against Buffalo it could be against Baltimore it could be against the Chargers it could be against Houston it could be against the Chiefs just name it could be again a division one of those the Steelers always seem to play a division playoff game it seems like like one of those like sign me up for that sort of thing.

46:55Rich Eisen:But, you know, that's in the few minutes left I have with you guys. Mark, your opinion of the Browns sending Kenny Pickett out. And at the end of the day, after this long discussion of what the quarterback room is going to look like through free agency and in the draft, it's Flacco and two rookies. What do you think? Well, it's like this message we were given for weeks and months that they were going to keep for quarterbacks. Pickett always felt like the odd man out because I get that Flacco and Stefanski obviously can work together to start the season and their schedule is absolutely a nightmare.

47:30So I get you go in with Flacco. He's 40, so that's not the long-term plan. And then you don't ditch one of the two rookies. You're going to want to try to see them both. I think Cleveland is sort of overall trying to get so much younger. The picket trade gave them a fit and they have 10 picks in the next draft, two number ones. Anything's on the table for how they'll look. But this year, outside of I think the defense being a little feisty, I don't think they're going to be as bad as people think. They're ranked by most as like the worst team in the league. I think they'll coach their way out of some of that.

48:02But from another angle, it's like the 18th, 19th, 20th year in a row where if this were a relationship and you had a therapist, the therapist would say, get out of this and start to pay attention to your own needs and wants. So that lingers as well along with whatever excuse I can make for them.

48:20Rich Eisen:Okay. While we're on the subject of fandom and therapy. Yeah, right. How do you view the Jets season? I think the Jets season can be a successful one without having a winning record. It's nice to be back our head underneath the clouds and not thinking, oh, maybe we go to the Super Bowl. If Aaron Glenn can instill a program, if it could feel like the season ends where we're building something. And maybe the quarterback sticks and maybe it's a it's a bandaid until they can use a high draft pick next year, which is probably more where I see it. But I want to see I just want to see basic competence.

48:54I want the coach to have control of the sidelines. I want accountability. I want less penalties. I want Garrett Wilson and Sauce to play at the height of their powers. And I want the owner to stay out of it and let this team develop from the ground up. because Aaron Glenn came from a place that started out as bad as it can get. And by the time Campbell and him were done together, they were a Super Bowl power. The owner, Woody Johnson, needs to understand that's the only way this is going to work. You've got to let this thing simmer. And I do think Glenn is the right guy. I love that he's a Parcells guy.

49:29I'm a big Parcells guy. I love that he's a former Jet. I love that he's a former first-round pick that played a long time in the league. The players respect that stuff. and everything, the way he's handled and comported himself since he's been hired, makes me think they might have the right guy. Now, I thought Robert Sala was the right guy, okay? Like, we've thought 100 guys were the right guy, but all you can do as a Jets fan is just hope that maybe this is finally, they made a move that gets them going in the right direction.

49:54Rich Eisen:Well, Sala might have been the right guy, but Zach Wilson wasn't, right? And then Rodgers was the move, I thought, a wise one that blew up because we don't need to go down that road. I like the move that the Jets made. I mean, in terms of their options at quarterback, what to do? 20 million bucks a year on a flyer on somebody with a massive upside, potentially, and bringing him in and saying, it's your team, Justin, and we're going to hook you up with your old college teammate, who, by the way, we're going to re-sign. They re-sign the two right guys. They signed their rookies of the year. And they've made the right moves.

50:28Rich Eisen:We will see if they cash. Which rookie would you want, Mark, to see being two on the death chart in Cleveland? Well, Dylan Gabriel had the much better preseason, so he's earned it. So if you flip that around. You think so, huh? I mean, I think if you take a look at Bull, I mean, Shador had a much better first game than Gabriel had his first game. And then the second game, you know, a bunch of the guys whose names are going to get cut, Shador played behind, although he did not have a better game. I think it's a lightning rod scenario if Shador's in there. I'm very curious to see him. I don't care what anyone says.

51:01But Gabriel was drafted higher. he received much more of the training camp snaps they treated him like a higher ranking quarterback than Shador so it's like then if you flip that who's in charge of that decision Mark Sessler and

51:14Rich Eisen:Dan Hanz who's here on the Rich Eisen show to wrap up our number one everyone check out heed the call on Odyssey and more we're still here on Roku continue on if you want well I just I've always wondered like not to go on to about it too much but Kevin Stefanski inherited Baker Mayfield they moved on from him. And then the Deshaun Watson thing happens where it's like, did Stefanski really want Deshaun Watson? I don't see very clear evidence of that, and he doesn't fit with the Stefanski offense. Why is there a narrative that Stefanski's a hostage? Almost all the time when it comes to his quarterbacks?

51:47Because I think because the Deshaun Watson felt like it came from high up. And the same thing with Shador Sanders. It works for Stefanski.

51:56Rich Eisen:It takes him off the hook. Name me the quarterbacks the fans he wanted in Cleveland that he's actually coached. Is it Flacco? And that's the end of the list? Well, that's the only one that truly felt like a good story. I don't know if it's the end of the list, but I would say this, do we say this about Sean McVay and the quarterback he gets? Like, we feel like he goes and gets the quarterback he wants. Same with certain types of coaches. O 'Connell. In Cleveland, it feels like there's a committee, and they've called it a committee. And committee is problematic when you keep coming up with the worst possible decision.

52:29And Jets fans, Browns fans, dysfunction starts from the top down. We just want the top to not keep us down.

52:37Rich Eisen:Well, the neat thing is in terms of your new situation with the top being Odyssey, that they clearly are into you guys. They gave you a deal, and they don't have a problem with you booking celebrities as your guests and actors as your guests, because your guest on the next Seed the Call is who? None other than Chris Brockman. How about that? You are aware. Let's go. You are aware. I have an extensive rider. No, not an extensive rider. You've been booked before as a celebrity. That's true. That's true. At a celebrity golf tournament as an actor, right? At a golf tournament, correct. As an actor.

53:13Rich Eisen:Would you care to tell him the story? Or should I? You can do it. Kevin Rahm? Yeah, Kevin Rahm. His remarkable charity golf tournament. For St. Jude. For St. Jude in Jacksonville, Florida. Yeah, unbelievable. Once upon a time, had Chris come out and play, he was listed as actor. Oh, nice. Chris Brockman. We all wear masks, Chris. I mean, I've been in two programs, I think. And an actor. Non-speaking roles. There's a thespian over there. See, TJ, we just had a full football conversation. Didn't mention Michael or the Dallas Cowboys once. Which is exactly, you know, it goes against what the Cowboys wanted.

53:51Rich Eisen:That's right. They want to be talked about. He's giving Jerry what he wants. Yeah, that's what we're doing. Until we just mentioned him. Oh, damn it. Almost made it. Congrats on everything going on with you guys. Thank you. I look forward to coming on during the season. Can't wait. I look forward to that. Door's always open for rich eyes. Dan Hanzus and Mark Sessler. Heed the call wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, it's Ryan Reynolds here from Mint Mobile. Now, I was looking for fun ways to tell you that Mint's offer of unlimited premium wireless for$15 a month is back. So I thought it would be fun if we made$15 bills, but it turns out that's very illegal.

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