Exclusive Interview with Comedian Brad Williams

27:41O'Shea:Jamie Lee Curtis had like 12 minutes of screen time. Yeah, so yeah, it is possible. It can happen. But you see what I'm saying? But you don't put the entire film's success on those 12 minutes. Yeah, so I love Roman, but he wasn't there every other week sometimes. So, I mean, I personally... You know who got busy? The mid-card cats. Yeah. Had to carry those shows. Yeah. My point. I personally... I still acknowledge my chief, though. Don't get it. I fully believe that you can't be... There's no way it's one guy putting in anything. No. You know, Hulk Hogan being Hulk Hogan. But, like, Macho Man Randy Savage is still here.

28:17O'Shea:Roddy Piper was there. Like, you still got, like, there's still people here. That people want to see. And also, you got to go up against somebody. Those villains, those heels, they are there. Stone Cold Steve Austin. It's still Triple H, Taker, and Rock here. You know? So, like, it's never just one guy. But, you know, tip of the spear is the tip of the spear. And, yeah, right now, I think they are in a great spot as far as the men's midcards. The women's midcard, I felt like, was gutted during these let-go's. What did you call it? What did you say? You said, I have been something three times. What word did you use?

29:01O'Shea:Yeah, to describe when you got let go from a company. Oh, surplus. Yeah, surplus. Yeah, you know, that word surplus. Shout out to AT &T. But it's opportunity. Like we said, with the Oscar thing, there's a window of opportunity right now, and we need to see people that step up. I didn't like, recently, I think Shawn Michaels did an interview. I think it was with Stephanie? I can't remember what. Shawn Michaels did an interview where he said, I told Mello that, you know, this is the business here, and sometimes the best guy doesn't always win. and like don't shelve me like that you know cause like we're all rooting for Melo and just when he was getting hot they took it off of him and like he ain't got nothing to say to Trick like writers that's gotta come right we going back to him vs Sammy again he won a lot of people didn't like the gingerbread thing but it's like wrestling right there's room for comedy.

30:06Yeah. I thought the Gingerbread Man funeral was funny, man, but people were, but I did, I think more people did like it than dislike it. Yeah.

30:14O'Shea:I saw somebody, somebody said the Gingerbread Man was so attitude error-coded and somebody retweeted it and was like, no, it wasn't. I had to retweet that and be like, bro, do you know the ridiculous things that we saw during that era? Yeah, right. Just simply ridiculous. Yeah, hand at gobbledygooker. Yeah, like, wrestling needs that wackiness. Like I told R-Truth when we interviewed him, he is a palate cleanser. He is a breath of fresh air. Everybody's so serious. And then when you see him, it's like everybody happens. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, you know, so, yeah, there's no, maybe it shouldn't have ended the show.

30:55O'Shea:I didn't like that. That was basically the main event of the Go Home show was the funeral for the gingerbread man. But it's okay. It's not the end of the world. This isn't like, I'm never watching this again. People love that threat. And then tweet about it next week. And Trix just proven how talented he is, right? You want him in something serious, he can do that. You want to put him in a little bit of comedy, he can do that. When he came out two weeks beforehand and the dude was trying to tell him, I think, that Sammy was in the Gingerbread Band concert, the costume, and he pimp slapped the dude?

31:30Yeah. Come on. Shut your mouth, bro. Backhand. I mean, come on. Shut your mouth. Trick. We talk about checking boxes. A.K.A. Dwayne Booker T. Johnson. He checks all the boxes. Yeah, man. But here's the thing for TKO. Who are you repped by? Who's your representation? W.M.E. All right. So you know when I wrote my book as a published author, you know who my representation was? W.M.E. So you got two clients here. I don't know. I don't get the Christmas cards anymore.

32:03O'Shea:Hey, William. Hey, Morris. But, yo, man, TKO, if you want some super fans who are also part of your family because you took 15 % of my book, talk to us. We'll fill you in on some history of WWE and wrestling. Yeah, man. Come on now. Things of that nature because I'm not sure if they got people there who really get it sometimes. Yeah. Listen, I know we're yapping, but that's why you show up every week. We have to get some things off our chest, but we got a guest. Yeah, man. I hear him knocking. Let him in. Let him in. You know, our guest is the talented comedian. By the way, Carol sucks. You'll figure out that later on.

32:45O'Shea:But Brad Williams is here, and, you know, he's got some stuff to promo. So let's check out this promo for him first, and then let's get to the interview. Brad Williams live on Short Street is doing numbers right now on YouTube. It premiered April 12th. My man's already at 700 ,000 views. You guys got to make sure you check him out. There you go right there. That's me. All right. Rock on. Thanks for not getting the full body shot. Now you do. See, now it's like I don't feel cool because you guys are chilling. You guys look great. I got my legs dangling. It's hard for me to – I'm glad I'm married.

33:19I'm glad I'm not trying to be out there at bars trying to pick up on women with my legs dangling anymore. It's really hard. It's like, hey, can I buy you a drink? It doesn't work. It's good to see you, man. The last time we saw you, Brad Williams, we were at the Roxy in West Hollywood. Soraya, a.k.a. Paige, she had her book release party. Yeah. There was a lot of notable folks in the building that night, and one of the most notable, of course, was you. We were kicking it with you that night. It was a lot of fun, and I know who you guys are. I'm a fan of you guys, and it was nice to have that happen there.

33:57It's like, oh, because I was worried I was going to get there and I was not going to know anybody and not just mark out with whatever wrestlers are there. But I'm like, okay, these guys talk about wrestling. Cool. Right. So we good.

34:11O'Shea:Yeah, we were there. We were all fully prepared to mark out. Yeah. I marked out. I did it. Yeah. Sorry, guys, that was just my kendo stick. Right. As you say, you mark out your kendo stick. Do you have a cookie sheet that's going to fall from the sky, too? You never know what we got underneath the ring here. Is Hornswoggle underneath this thing? You're going to find out. Ladies and gentlemen. What a show. They're actually two different people. We thought we're the same guy. How many times have you run into that? Bro. It's always there's a dwarf of the moment. So when I was coming up, it was Wee Man from Jackass.

34:51And then it was Dinklage for a while, and then it was Hornswoggle for a while. So it's like people can't comprehend that there's more than one. What? Successful when they do things. Literally, I was on an interview this morning where the guy's like, and with all that you've done in comedy, you still find time to get in the ring with WWE. And I'm like, nope. Other one. Yeah, man. Other one. Well, speaking about the beginnings. Yeah. You know you guys have something in common? Yeah.

35:19O'Shea:Is that your dad? Is he? Wait. Because if he is, there's a word I got to say. I got to get off my chest. I've been holding it in for a long time, you know, trying to be polite, trying to be nice. I feel you. I feel you. But if Cube is my dad, oh, my. Let him fly. I got to pass. Let's go to Compton and say it. Oh, my God. Let's have fun. Yeah, yeah. No, you're both Trojans. Oh, yeah. Fight on. Fight on, brother. Fight on. I didn't know you were Trojan. Let's go. Nice on the road, baby. Yeah, man. I did not graduate. Me neither. I was a year away from graduating, and then I started doing comedy, and I was like, well, that's what I want to do, so I dropped out.

36:00But I was going to get a communications degree, so it's not like when I dropped out we lost a cancer cure. It's not like, oh, where will humanity be now that Brad Williams doesn't have his communications degree. It's fine. Shout out to Annenberg. Oh, man.

36:16O'Shea:Shout out to my buddy Nate. What were you? Screenwriting. screenwriting yeah yeah i was i was at the school of cinematic arts and yeah in the middle of my second year my dad's like hey we're taking this nwa movie pretty serious and i'm like oh yeah good for you all right he's like no in a perfect world i want you to play me so i was like all right and then i dedicated myself to that i was going to uh aaron spiser's acting yeah yep studio like all the time and convinced him to let me leave school because like this is what i was going to school for anyway. So now you're going to go do it. Here we are.

36:50Isn't it wild that I believe they pretty much have a Dr. Dre building now? Yeah. On the USC campus? Never went. You know, that's fine. Like, if you would have told me, top 10 people that will not have a building at USC, and certainly the 90s, and then any time after that, I've been like, well, Dre would never have a building. But now Dr. Dre has a building at USC. Yeah, so it's like, all right, man. That'll do it. Love it. I don't think I'm going to get a building. I'll take a bench. If I have a bench. Yeah, but one that's lower so my legs could actually touch the ground. That would be hard. That would be my bench.

37:33You guys sit on. Your knees will be up. You'd have to be like Phil Jackson. I'm still sitting on the Brad Williams. Exactly. Do it, buddy. The Brad Williams would be hard. So you're a lifelong Laker fan, Trojan. You're a wrestling fan. We might be brothers. I'm telling you, bro, it's pretty good gig. The similarities, I'm saying. A thousand percent. It's fine. Just take down the shading a little bit, and you might get there.

38:01O'Shea:A little sepulatum. So I guess before we get into the wrestling, my thing is I like to know the person. Sure. Talk to me about you as a kid, man. What was life like growing up? Oh, life was like, all right, if I'm ever on a podcast and I'm like one of these guys that says like, hey, man, comedy comes from pain, comes from trauma. I had a rough childhood. Slap me. I did not come from trauma and pain. Grew up in Orange County, California. Mom and dad stayed together the whole time. You know, they're fantastic. They're great. They love me very much. Only child? I have a sister who is 15 months older than me who is not in the entertainment business.

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39:51So if you look and you shake my family tree, Ringling Brothers ain't falling out of that thing, okay? Like, it's just me, okay? But, yeah, I grew up. This is where we will differ. Okay. Because I played hockey as a kid.

40:06O'Shea:Yeah, no. No, no, no. I found hockey late in my life. Yeah? Yeah, never played. Oh, yeah, because you're a Kings fan, right? Yeah, go Kings, go. There you go. I'm from Orange County, Ducks. So, you know, we're a little bit of a rivalry right now. We're still in it. Yeah, respect. As of this podcast, who knows tomorrow. But, yeah, so grew up playing hockey and just going to Ducks games and Angels games and stuff like that. But always liked comedy. Comedy was how I made friends. you know comedy is how it was the defense mechanism someone comes at me uh has something to say then i fire back with a joke and they're like all right all right yeah we cool and uh yeah uh went went to went to usc and then started doing stand-up and once i found stand-up comedy i was like oh this is this is the thing to do ever been a goal ever been a well like to be a comedian is like to say i want to be a comedian is like saying i want to be an avenger you know it's like I don't really know how.

41:08It just looks awesome. I'd like to do it. But then it's like anything. Anything that you want to do, the best advice is to just start doing it. If you want to be a director, start directing shit. What? Whatever you can. Direct whatever you can. Yeah, you want to write stuff? Write stuff. You want to be a comedian? Start doing stand-up. Wherever they have a microphone. I can't tell you how many coffee shops I drove, like two hours because they had an open mic night for me to talk for five minutes in front of people that are just trying to enjoy a latte like that's but that's how that's how you come up the beautiful part about stand-up comedy and it and it's there's no book you can read no class you can take no piece of advice that you can hear that will instantly make you good you just have to be good by doing it just doing it getting better put in 10 000 hours whatever it is the guidewell method yeah yeah and uh that's That's how you get better.

42:03So I was an opening act for about five years and then started heading out on my own. And now I blinked and I'm 42. I've been doing comedy for 22 years. I'm married with a six-year-old. What happened, man? Life, man. Good life. Yeah. Snuck up on you. So whenever now I'm having some success and people now I walk into the club and people look at me like, oh, that's the elder statesman. Like Brad's doing some stuff. I'm like, I'm still the kid from Orange County. I don't get this. When did I become the dude for some people? Yeah. Oh, I know what that means now. Do white guys have unks? Yeah. I hear that, right?

42:44Well, we don't call them unks, and we don't call them ooze, but we got them. Sir? Yeah, we have sirs. We have sirs. That's what we have. Dude, I didn't know what Unk was until I went on the Club Shay Shay podcast. Oh, my God. I learned so much stuff. He'll learn you. So much stuff. And then I had a gig the following week after I was on Club Shay Shay. I had a gig in Austin, Texas. And my opening act, great comic. His name is JB Ball. He's black, right? He's a 6 '3 black guy. So we're all walking around. And all the black guys in Austin are coming to me like, yo, Club Shay Shay. Like, respect. and I'm like giving me fist bumps and everything.

43:30And then my actual like black opener is like, no love. Nothing. Nothing. Y 'all come up and dab up the white guy. Yeah, he wasn't on Shea Shea. Dude, I hadn't had cognac until I went on Shea Shea. Shut up.

43:42O'Shea:Oh, wow. I hadn't had cognac, bro. That's the time to have it. That is the time. And he's not a sponsor of this podcast, but it's good. All right. Okay. It's very tasty. I got to get on there. Give me some of that cognac. Yeah. I got a bone to pick with him. Oh, no. You got beef. He tripped out recently. Yeah, he said that the Lakers weren't on TV before LeBron James. What? The Lakers? The Lakers? He said, yeah, the Lakers weren't on TV with Kobe. That's that CTE, bro. I tell everybody, bro. That's real. By the way, the reason why there's any kind of regional sports networks is because of the Lakers.

44:25Jerry Buss invented Prime Ticket. You and I remember Prime Ticket. I don't know if you were in the Prime Ticket days. I'm older than everybody. Okay, so yeah, you do. Chill out, man. But that's where they own their own network. They had the broadcasting rights deal. A lot of people in this league are making a lot of money because Dr. Jerry Buss had the Lakers on TV.

44:45O'Shea:He played foosball. Yeah. He played foosball, bro. Oh, but you're a Bronco. Yeah. You got a soft spot for him. I do. Yeah, you do. I do. So, yeah, I'm a lifelong diehard Broncos fan because people ask me why because I grew up in Orange County. Like, how does that happen? And I say, well, my dad went to Stanford, and then he wanted us to support a Stanford-led team, and that was either Elway with the Broncos or Plunkett with the Raiders. And the joke I make is I don't have face tattoos or priors. So I know you're a Raider fan. No, no, no, no. No, you're not? No, I'm a Ram. You're a Ram guy. I'm a Ram, man.

45:20O'Shea:Pop is a Raider fan. Yeah, Pop is a Raider. It has caught quite the divide. Yeah, so I just have to worry about Ice Cube coming after me. Yeah, that's fine. That's fine. My goal is to have a rapper, any rapper, drop my name in a track. It could be a diss. It could be anything. I'll work on that for you. I want anything. That's going to happen two hours after this airs tonight. I want that. When I heard Pitbull drop Cat Williams' name in a track, and I know that's about as white of a rapper as you could get, but when I heard that, I'm like, oh, I want that. I want a rapper to drop my name at something.

46:06Just say short like Brad Williams, small like, something like that. Bam. Yeah. It's going to happen.

46:11O'Shea:It immortalizes you. I love it. I love it. Yeah, 100%. Now, there's something that also you and I share. Okay. You see how I piggybacked off that? Wait, who are some of your exes? No, no, no. That's so funny. I was about to bring up an ex. Welcome to the Eskimo Brothers.

46:30O'Shea:I didn't know. My ex, shout out to Jade. My ex taught me the truth about pit bulls. Yeah. Pit bulls are good dogs, bro. They got a bad rep. Yeah, I got two of them, man. You got two now? I got two pit bulls. I got Diego and I got Daisy. We just got Daisy recently. And so I got Diego and Daisy and my wife's Chinese. So those are the only double D's I have in my house. Dude, I love pits. They're the best. I was one of those guys, too, that I thought pit bulls were these aggressive, violent. Yeah. DMX comes out and starts always having them on the chains. And you're like, oh, shit. That's the scariest dog ever.

47:15And then you get one. you'd be around one that hasn't been corrupted by a aggressive owner and then they're like oh you guys are the sweetest you guys you guys the absolute best they're they're they're massive and let me tell you walking down the street as a four foot four guy with a pit bull best oh man the the the ego boost when i see guys crossing the street when i when i see people crossing the street because I'm coming down. I'm like Omar from The Wire. I'm just like, oh, yeah. Brad's coming. Yeah, Brad's coming. Brad's coming. And I just got two pits. It's the best. Oh, that and when I have two pit bulls, it just looks like I'm like a snow dog and just like, it just looks like that.

48:03It's awesome. I love pit bulls. They're amazing.

48:06O'Shea:It's the eyes. It's something about their eyes where you just can't be mad at. So sweet. And that and I feel for pit bulls because they're like me. They have giant heads. I have a giant. See, if you look at the forehead, I'll tip this up. I don't have dreams. I have movies. That's a giant head. I keep trying to tell people pit bulls. Mike Myers in So I Married an Axe Murderer. Yeah. Head, paper. I remember that one. Yeah, pits are the damn best, man. Everyone thinks I'm going to own a chihuahua. Like they look at me. But see, all right, and chihuahuas are a lot like the dog. All right, here's my thing.

48:53Smaller dogs are actually more aggressive because they can get away with it and no one corrects them. A chihuahua yaps at you. You don't kick the dog. You don't, like, get mad. You don't scream. You don't call for help. You just go, ah, you know, and that's it. That's why you meet a lot of the larger wrestlers. You find out they're just big sweethearts because they know that if they... It's done. It's done. I think we've all met the big show here. I think we've all met the big show. Bro, I did a podcast with him. I did an episode of Talk is Jericho with the big show. And it was just him and I comparing our lives.

49:34It was really shocking how he's a giant. I am the opposite of that. And we had very similar lives in terms of like, oh, clothes are hard to get. Travel kind of sucks. Showers in hotel rooms are weird, but for completely opposite reasons. You know, him, he can't fit me. If the shower head is crooked, I look up like, well, all right. I got to call somebody. You got to spend 60 bucks to have somebody come in. Yeah. Yeah. I got to have a guy just come in and do that. And plus, with you and him, I'm sure you just get the dumbest compliments, compliments, conversations from people asking you the dumbest stuff.

50:19Yep. That is something that we both get. But Sho is a sweetheart, absolute kind. I'm good friends with Lance Archer, the murder hawk monster, one of the sweetest men you'll ever meet he hates it when I say this on a podcast he's like I'm the murder rock monster it's like dude you're a you're a teddy bear he's the sweetest guy ever but then you get a lot of little guys and I'm talking 5 foot 2 not dwarves like me that mid, that 5 foot 2 they got the Napoleon complex they can be like because they think no one's going to swing on me because you can't hit a little guy and I'm like ah they can they will and you're not gonna like it and it just now hit me i totally forgot i did meet big show it was after wrestlemania 21 it was here nice in la yeah so i have a yeah definitely did meet big show one time and i have a picture with him i don't know why this just escaped me but he's holding a snapple bottle okay and the snapple bottle looks like you know those mini cans of soda it looks like he's holding one of those right and i measured his fist literally went from my chin to my forehead.

51:29It's ridiculous. That guy hits you. Yeah, just a punch in the face. And it worked. He does a punch in the face. You're like, yeah, I'm down. I'm out for three or more. I don't want to fight anyone. It's over. Yeah, it's great.

51:45O'Shea:So, I mean, we got to end the wrestling, though. Yeah, let's go. Dude, let's go. Hot tag. Let's go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Here's what I love about wrestling fans is we're all like hiding in plain sight and then like as soon as you're at a party you're out and about you're at a social function bro and you find out someone else is a wrestling fan you're like oh right get over here we gotta talk same same yeah we gotta talk you like you you like point up you like put up you're like do we acknowledge do we acknowledge all right let's go and then that then that's your friend at the party right it's your friend for life yeah i used to work at mtv right years ago and I was working on the show Punk'd.

52:28Yep. And there was a guy who was working on Pimp My Ride. And I would always hear, hey, you ever meet John from Pimp My Ride? He likes wrestling too. And I'm like, really? No. And one day we met each other in the bathroom. And he's like, are you? And I was like, are you? And then we've been friends 20 years later. I love that you say you met him in the bathroom. Well, you know. It's what happened. We were at the sink, guys. We were at the sink. Yeah, you both had your Singapore canes in your hand. Let's say. Yeah, well, you both had that. You know what the kendo's doing. so i watch wrestling with my wife and my wife uh is a martial artist she was a taekwondo yeah she was a martial arts instructor and she's actually just got back into it and uh so when the kendo sticks come out she has this like ptsd because that was literally used to correct when she was in the martial arts schools so she's like and like so and when people get hit with him like a lot of people when they when they watch wrestling if someone gets hit with a kendo stick they're like yeah but it's it's fake it's all it's like she knows nothing nothing fake about

53:30O'Shea:that yeah when he brought up those the first thing i did was like yeah you kind of go against your forearm your hand like oh this has some this has some oomph and then don buoy who you met he was like i don't think it's gonna hurt hit me with it and i was like are you so i i laid it in at about 35 % and he was like oh that didn't hurt so then I hit him about 60 % and then I think he was like okay I see how it can hurt yeah I can't imagine like being a pro wrestler and you're out and about in public and people meet you and the people that come up and go give me a chop I could take it and you're like why would you do that to yourself and then you have to lay it in oh if you're the guy you have to this is for the boys yeah you gotta let them know like this hurts you know this this is this is real uh have you guys ever run have you ever had a chance to go in the ring and run the ropes a little bit i've had a chance to go into a wwe ring and i felt the ropes and i was like yeah yeah sweaty yeah against your bare back bro constantly because we hear from a lot of wrestlers we always ask them we'll ask you this question maybe not this question but one of the things they say is like you know what's one of the first things you you felt when you got into a wrestling ring you know what hurts what doesn't hurt and everyone's like running the ropes welcome the wrestling moment I've run the ropes and you wake up the next day and you are sore you will have rope marks all on your body because you haven't built up that callus yet so yeah people think they're rubber bands it's not we have this idea of because there's so many naysayers about oh well they're not you know there's nothing what's the risk what are y 'all keep talking and so we said that at every PLE just put a ring on the outside have fans line up run these ropes yeah just run the ropes don't even take a bump the easiest thing you think we do just run these ropes run the ropes they'll run too and be like ah like am I doing it right yeah you are but then we told Jacob Fatu this last week and he took it a little further he goes how about let me punch him in the face like listen definitely not the same like category, bro.

55:46Yeah. We'll start off with the basics. We want to terrify him. Yeah, and like, you know, it's also, it's Jacob 5, too. It's not like it's mini Danhausen. Yeah, no. Which, by the way, not me. There was some speculation online that I was one of the mini Housens. I was not one of the mini Housens, but here's my camera right now. Danhausen, you and I have partied together on the Chris Jericho cruise. If you need another mini housing, I'm there. You don't, you don't, I'm not saying like, Oh, we have to say it's Brad Williams. No, I'm not looking for anything like that. No shout outs. Don't plug. Do it.

56:28Nothing. I just want to do it. I just want to do it. Let me curse some people. Let me be, let me be a mini housing. I love it. Another thing. So at the end of this, Brad Williams, what you're going to get from doing the no contest wrestling podcast is you will be featured somehow on a rap track. and Dan Housen will have you as a mini Housen I love it Williams Housen? Brad Housen? Dwarf Housen? Let's go Brad Housen Brad Housen is hard I want that and I'm so happy for that guy I'm so happy for Dan Housen you know going online when he made his debut there was a lot of people that didn't understand they didn't get it a lot of new fans a lot of marks like ourselves we know Dan Housen from the Indies from AEW.

57:14I know him from Pro Wrestling Tees having the number one selling t-shirt for like 10 years in a row. Yeah, for like all that. Like we knew what was coming and then it's been so fun to see how they use him because Dan Housen is one of these examples that I love where I go, hey, wrestling can be Chad Gable and it can be Dan Housen. It can be like the most insane Bret Hart technical guy and it could be funny. it could be silly it could be ridiculous are true yes you could have both of those they both are allowed to exist i'm like that with comedy where people where people go like oh i don't like that comedian he's a prop comic or he's a clean comic or he's whatever comic it's like no man there's enough room for there's so much comedy out there that you can like what you like it's okay and just because you like one thing doesn't mean you have to hate everything else so it's the same with wrestling.

58:07Dude, you bring me as a comedian. I love the Dan Housens. I love the Orange Cassidy's. I love the funny wrestlers. I love watching the old clips of Santino. That was something I wanted to ask you. Who were some of your favorite comedic acts throughout wrestling? Oh, okay. Man, funny wrestlers. I mean, the thing is, is then you get a guy like The Rock, and The Rock is both. Yeah. Yeah, he's that, but then he's also a funny wrestler. and my favorite would be any time a wrestler who's not known for being funny would do something funny Kane had some dude that one promo with him and Hulk Hogan it's Kane, it's The Rock it's Hulk Hogan and they're all going to have a triple threat tag match that night and The Rock is talking The Rock says we gotta go out there, we gotta entertain the people and then Hulk Hogan starts going and we got to do, you know, let me tell you something, brother.

59:04This is what we got to do. And then Kane, who's been silent the whole time, goes, let me tell you something. There's going to be millions of, there's going to be the millions of The Rocks fans. There's going to be all the Hulkamaniacs. There's going to be 10 ,000 Kananites. Kananites. Kananites, right? And what you going to do? And then Kane just goes into it. And I'm like, that, I love that. That came out of nowhere. Because wrestling can be whatever. It can be you treat it like it's an Olympic sport. And then you get a guy like Kurt Angle, one of the funniest dudes and one of the best overall athletes to ever do it.

59:44He could do both. He was silly. The promo he cut against Rey Mysterio where he's like, I'm a man and you're a boy and I love playing with little boys. Wait, wait, wait, wait. It was so good. I love that stuff so much. I like the range.

1:00:05O'Shea:When did you fall in love with wrestling? Bro, my dad took me one time to the Anaheim Convention Center, and it was a house show, and Hogan was on the house show. And I, as a kid, he ran out to do a run-in at a battle royal to help Bret Hart win it. and him running out there, I've never heard anything that loud. Where he just, you just heard, like, Brett was in trouble. I forgot what wrestler was beating him up. And then all of a sudden you hear, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. And the place just goes, Abe. And I was just like, ah, man. But as a kid, I get why I liked wrestling, because it's like these are real-life superheroes.

1:00:49These are comic book characters. This is the Hulk, but in front of you. You can see the person. You can touch the person. you know so that that was it and then of course all through the attitude era that for me that's my golden era okay yeah attitude is my golden era that's the that's the stuff i loved when uh you know yeah who were your wrestlers from oh bro um rob van dam was my guy Okay. Love RVD. Mr. Monday Night. Dude, the stuff he would do, and I followed him in ECW. There's matches with him and Jerry Lynn in ECW.

1:01:25O'Shea:Going hard. Go. They're going. They're doing, like, you think Osprey's doing movesets. Like, go back. They just go, go, move, dodge, block, flip. Like, it's this whole thing. So, like, yeah, I loved RVD. of a kind by the way yeah great song banger banger of a song here i see when i look in your eye we did our we did our top five favorite uh wrestling theme songs we both had rvd on two different songs yeah oh i had pantera i had the pantera one he had the other one yeah yeah it's so good and uh when you come see my live show if you get there early um i there's a pre-show playlist that just plays while people are taking their seats, you'll hear a lot of wrestling theme songs that way.

1:02:14You'll hear the old Raw theme from the Now get the guns in my generation and do it all. I love like peeking through the curtain and just watch people go I have Cody's playing too. For me, I love Cody's theme because there's a line in there that's a comedian speaks to me where it goes out the curtain, lights go up, I'm home. And I'm like, oh, that's this shit right here. Put it in my veins. Yeah, man. So it's like, I love all that. But yeah, I loved RVD, loved Chris Jericho. I like the technical guys. Okay. So I know it's not fun to say. I already know where you're going to say. But you know where I'm going.

1:02:59It was what it was, man. You know, it's like saying, like, oh, you're not allowed to like Bill Cosby jokes? No, you could say that Bill Cosby was funny. You can say that. You can say, I'd stand up. I liked him. Every Chris Benoit match, that dude would put it all out there. Yes, problematic, off the stage, horrible shit. You can like the work without endorsing it all. I remember the Royal Rumble match where Chris Jericho put him in the walls on top of a ladder, and it looked like they were in some sort of spider. It looked incredible. He was an incredible performer. yeah i love i love all those guys i love all like the technical performers were you and eddie herrero back in the day thousand percent because he's another one funny yes funny funny and technical and now i love that instagram that i can go through my reels and see other wrestlers talk about how much respect they had for eddie and you know you hear uh diamond dallas page tell a story about how it was Eddie's idea to do the diamond cutter out of a powerbomb.

1:04:10I just saw that clip. Not the page talking, but the actual clip of him. Yeah. And I'm like, why has no one else done that? Yeah, Eddie's on his back, like a powerbomb. Yeah, he spins him. Yeah, and then Eddie flips over and catches it. And you hear Mysterio talk about how Eddie would put together their matches and just what he was able to do. there's a clip of Billy Gunn talking about how he was going to gorilla press slam Eddie and then Eddie while he's up there goes drop your left arm and Billy's like the fuck what and he goes drop your left arm now so he drops the left arm and he holds himself up and make it makes Billy look like he's just holding him up with one hand so then he looks makes Billy look good and I I love inside baseball stuff like that because there's so much of that stuff that you miss especially with wrestling where is it predetermined yes but there's so much unscripted and improvising that happens in that ring that when you hear about that when when you hear how finishes are changed and what people uh uh how how matches develop in the psychology of it you're like holy these guys are storytellers yeah just like comedians just like musicians tell a story hear something there there is a good guy why does that good guy want to fight that bad guy because the bad guy that's not enough why give me a why why why are they fighting why is this joke funny why why am i telling you why i'm going to the store to get milk or whatever there has to be a reason so that those are all instructions that you can learn from wrestling watching wrestlers put together a match is it's something else in itself because it's just like they talk about it and it's super quick and yep and it'll It'll be like, okay, so you and me, then we'll do the thing, we'll do the flip, then you come back, hit the thing, blah, blah, blah.

1:06:01Watching, like, being backstage and watching wrestlers go over their matches is so funny to me because it's like. I almost don't want to see it. Yeah. It's like when people do football talk that know football. They're like, oh, I write Tye 37 all on wing go. And you're like, I have no idea what the hell that means. Like, that wasn't in Madden. I don't know it. But then wrestlers, they're all backstage and they're all like, all right, and then I just come in and I'm like, boom, and then you do the, but they all know what they're saying. And they get it. They all know what they're saying. Then we do a gory special and you're like, oh, right, yeah, okay.

1:06:35Like it takes me a second. But I truly respect what they all do as storytellers because that's what – and when there's such a – when pro wrestling works, when it's at its absolute best, there is a magic. There is a magic when you have, you know, 80 ,000 people, one, two, three, cheering. When a good guy's getting beat up and you hear the other good guy music and the whole place pops because they know, oh, he's coming out to save him. Like, when you have a moment, like, you know, for instance, just it's a popular one, but like Hogan turning and going to the NWO and the whole place just collapsing onto itself because their hero just became the bad guy.

1:07:21It's the absolute best. I'll take prime pro wrestling over, no offense, but a prime movie any day of the week because it's right in front of you. It's so great. Yeah, when wrestling is done right, man, it's just... And I also say this to people who like wrestling, you never have to give them a reason. Yeah. But if you don't like wrestling, there is nothing I can say to you that's going to make you get it because you just in your mind you just don't want to see it. Yeah, you're like, oh, it's predetermined. I'm like, okay, so you're like, it's not real. It's like, cool. Do you watch The Bachelor?

1:07:54Yeah, I love The Bachelor. Yeah, that's not real either. That's not a love.

1:07:58O'Shea:Jurassic Park is so enjoyable when I don't have an asshole telling me that the dinosaurs are fake. You know, all those dinosaurs are CGI. Yeah. Yeah, right. Yeah, I'm aware. You know when he fell off the 90-foot stage and there was a crash pad there? Yeah. Because if he doesn't hit it, he explodes into a bunch of atoms. You idiot. Yeah, it's fun. I took my daughter to medieval times not too long ago. And then the knights are fighting and all that. And literally I had this thought while it was happening. I look around and I go, there's someone in this audience that is enjoying the shit out of this right now that goes, pro wrestling is stupid.

1:08:39That's such a good point. That's the dumbest shit. Just turn your brain off for a second. Suspend some disbelief. And fucking enjoy it. Have a lot of fun. That's kind of how I felt about Dan Howes in this past backlash. If you are a fan and you just like wrestling, you could sit there and enjoy that. But if you were someone who's on the fence, or that was the first time you were tuning in on the SPAC, and you already don't really like wrestling, then you're looking at this like, this is the dumbest thing ever. But if you can just have fun with it. What is he? He does this and a sparkler goes off.

1:09:15Yeah. And I'm like, yeah. That's a curse. It's awesome. It's a curse. And curses aren't real. It's like, ask the Knicks. Right. Exactly.

1:09:23O'Shea:Because when he took that off, they've been on fire. They've been on fire. They should retire. Depending on how far the Knicks go, they'll have a Knick banner for the season and then just like a little outline of his face paint. Yeah. So good. You know, you spoke of Eddie Guerrero earlier. Yeah. And so I got to tell you this. When we went up to Stanford a few months ago for the 2K26 release, the night before we were in a hotel and we were in the same hotel as Mark Henry. So we sit in the lobby. We're chopping it up with Mark. Awesome. What a beast. First of all, the amount of people that Mark Henry has turned on to wrestling, and I don't mean fans.

1:10:00I mean, like, actual wrestlers of personalities like, you know, Braun Strowman, Bianca Belair. Oh, no shit. Samantha Irvin. I love hearing that. Who else did Mark see? And there's been a few more that I'm drawing a blank on. But he's seen someone like he saw Bianca and DM'd her and was like, you need to be in wrestling. And the same with Braun Strowman because of the strongman thing. But Mark's telling us these stories that you always hear about, right? Backstage fight stories and stuff. But it was even funnier to hear it from a guy who was actually there and saw it. And as he's telling the stories, he's throwing in the voices of the people.

1:10:35So you mentioned Eddie Guerrero, and he was telling us a story, and everyone probably knows this if you know anything about wrestling. Eddie tried to get in a fight with Kurt Angle after a match, and he went to shoot, tried to shoot on an Olympic gold medalist. And Mark was just telling the story, and he's doing Eddie's voice, he's doing Kurt's voice, and it was just the best story on earth. And I was like, Mark, what did you do? He goes, nothing. I just sent him back and watched. Yeah, it's Mark Henry who can do whatever he wants. Whatever he wants. Because nothing's going to, you know, nothing's going to get the world's strongest man off a track.

1:11:08No, those are so much fun. Jericho has told me, oh, he's going to hate that I brought this up. Jericho's told me the story from his perspective of him choking out Goldberg backstage. Okay. What did he say? Because, you know, again, that's something else you've heard. Yep. The history of it. But to be fair, he was very calm about it. He was like, yeah, you got mad at me. He ran at me. Front face lock. Front face lock, pulled back, and then all of a sudden, and Goldberg goes down.

1:11:40O'Shea:Technique will save your ass. It's no shit. So, yeah, just doing that. And just it gives me so much respect. And they all say sports is a game of inches, whatever. Wrestling, it's a game of inches because one way, it just looks awesome. The other way, it's an actual move. Like, you do the figure four on someone. One way, it's Ric Flair. It's a great showman. It's whatever. And then you do a little bit more, and holy shit, you're going to break someone's leg. It's insane when you think about stuff like that. Were you more into WWE or WCW? I wasn't a WCW guy. I was a WWE guy. And then one thing that has been, once again, I'll shout out to all.

1:12:28It's such a great time to be a wrestling fan because you can know what's going on now and also respect the past. Hearing all the stories of the Monday Night Wars and everything and, like, backstage politics, people switching sides, people who may have a final say in their contract so they change certain finishes at the exact last minute because that don't work for me, brother. Yeah. That's brother with an E-R and not with an A.

1:12:57My opening act, J.B. Ball, has this great joke about Hogan where he's like, how did Hulk Hogan say the N-word when he's been saying the other word his entire life? Yeah, right. He's been saying brother his whole life. His whole life. It's right there. It's right there. That's a good point. That lets me know he did it on purpose.

1:13:16O'Shea:When Hogan passed, we found ourselves in a weird position. How did you do that as a black wrestling show? You know, we handled it with decorum. Look, and I love the fact that you said we're a black wrestling show because we are very, like, we shout out, you know, Black History Month. Yeah. And, you know, we're very, you know, it is what it is. But I went on the Rich Eisen show, which I'm on, and I said, well, and what did I say when he died? I said it was very complicated and blah, blah. And I got destroyed. Destroyed. And like all of a sudden I went from you, John Sally telling me I had the blackest corner of any sports show he's ever seen.

1:13:55The people coming at me, calling me like mom or something because I didn't, I'm like, I'm on a national sports show. I'm not going to come out here and, you know, I have to have some decorum because a son and a did lose his dad. Yeah. You know, there is death and, and what Hulk Hogan did didn't personally affect TJ Jefferson. So yeah, it was easy for me to be like, look, man, Yeah, I can understand. And I do see what he meant to wrestling. Sure. So we handled it like that. Separate art from artists like we do with Chris Benoit and God knows how many others in the wrestling business. But the problem is I don't know who was the good guy.

1:14:34I don't know if Terry was the good guy, Hulk was the bad guy. So I've been watching the Hulk Hogan Netflix documentary. Didn't really learn too much that I didn't know. But it was like death, man. Yeah. And also the thing about when you watch the Netflix doc, they talk about it, but I'm like, dude, play the audio. Yeah, I haven't gotten to that. Play the audio. It don't because it's like when someone says like, oh, this guy got hit with sexual assault charges. You're like, well, what does that mean? Did he grab a woman's ass? Did he go way further? like what so when you say like oh he said some inappropriate things about black people it's like play the tape because that's good it's the ray rice situation where where you're like you hear about it you're like oh yeah he had a little dust up with this lady and then you see him yeah and you're like because it was man what he said it wasn't just like you know joking around like with the soft a not but like right the things he said were so personal that like man and then we talked to Mark Henry again.

1:15:39And Mark's thing has always been like, yo, all you have to do is apologize. Yeah. And he refused to do it. So at that point, it's like, all right. Oh, you meant that. You meant it. You meant it.

1:15:49O'Shea:And when you tell the locker room, you know, make sure, you know, the words you say, you never know who's got a camera around. Yeah, that's not wrong. Look, that's not, I'm sorry. So that's not taking ownership. That's not like apologizing. That's you being like, yeah, I said it. And I'd say it again. I just make sure no cameras were. So we acknowledged his passing. But then I got to get my dig in a little bit. There's some other stuff there. So TJ said his piece, and I said, TJ, that's well said, brother. And remember, folks, that's brother with an A. Yes. Not with a hard ER. On my podcast, Height and Babble, it's me and my opening act, J.B.

1:16:31Ball, and we have a soundboard, and we have the Booker T. Oh, Hogan, I'm coming for you. I'm coming for you. And then a word I will never say. But we have that. And, yeah, it makes me laugh every single time.

1:16:49O'Shea:I can't wait to ask him about that one day. Bro, because you see him delivering and he just goes, I'm fired. She starts smiling. At the end of the day, Hogan could have and should have been celebrated for what he brought. But you know what? That's the path you chose. That you did. It's everything. Take ownership. I guess he did take ownership. He didn't want to try to amend what he did wrong. And as a fan, that didn't work for me, brother. Sorry. So I booed you out into it. I didn't boo. I just merely turned around. A lot of people booed. I stood up and just turned around. Good for you. I respect that.

1:17:29Boo! Me, Eric Andre, Wale. Boo! see i i i respect that i got nothing but respect for that talking about old wrestling man since i know you you know you love it yeah i'm sure to go back this might be a tough question but if you could change one booking decision from the past what would it be like what is something that to this day if somebody brings it up it's just like like there's a few that just will set me off man Wow. There's so many. What do I? How do I? Oh, here's one. Kofi be champion longer.

1:18:14O'Shea:Oh, my God. You hate Velasquez? Oh, my God. I think the problem with that, too, right, is, okay, Brock Lesnar should beat Kofi Kingston. I don't think anyone in here is going to argue that point. But the thing about Kofi Kingston is, right, he's athletic, and he's smart. He's smart. Kofi, when he does all those things to avoid the rumble, he's smart. An intelligent wrestler like Kofi Kingston would not bum rush Brock Lesnar for any reason. He'd stick and move. So for him to just completely bum rush him like that and get F5 and lose the title in seconds, yeah, I can understand that. That's one where I was like, man, because when Kofi won that belt, like the same way in the NBA there's championships and then there's championships there's ones that mean a little bit more you know and Kofi winning that belt was one that meant a little bit more I feel like that's coming at the hands of Daniel Bryan who everybody loved I was kind of into that like you know the earth champion thing I was like people were kind of he had that belt and I was kind of like Let's just see what this guy can do with this.

1:19:31But then Kofi Mania came and was like, all right, I love you, man. But like, let's go. You got to ride this wave right now. Let's pass it on. So, yeah, I would have Kofi keep the belt for longer. And that would have been one. I would have now I don't want to be wrong here because everyone will be in the comments. But I don't. Did Piper ever get a world heavyweight championship run? Never. The closest he got was he was the Intercontinental Champion, and then at WrestleMania, or the Rumble, I guess, and Ric Flair won the championship, that Rumble. He was one of the last guys, I think, in the ring.

1:20:10Yeah. So he could have been a double champ, I think, at that point. The fact that Piper never had a belt who arguably— Well, he had the IC belt. Oh, yeah, never had the strap. The world type. The strap. The big boy. Never had the big boy. Never had the winged eagle. that is one that bums me out where I go man that guy deserved if anything if anyone deserved the belt because you can talk about how Hulk Hogan and Mr. T sold Wrestlemania but they needed a villain a hero needs a foil you couldn't just put anybody in there and have it work you had to have Piper in there I'm glad you're saying this now I can ask you guys because I was going to ask this on the IZN show but sometimes that might not go well just because of the level of wrestling knowledge.

1:20:55But I can ask you too. The thing that made wrestling so big, Rock and Wrestling back in the 80s, was you had Hogan, of course, but you had Cyndi Lauper. You had Captain Lou Albano. Celebrities making the crossover. So let's just say 2026, right now, wrestling is just at this point where it's just like flatlining. But we're going to have the first WrestleMania. who would who from today could play those parts like who is the equivalent of Cindy Lauper remember Cindy Lauper girls just want to have fun MTV was just starting humongous stars by the way another person who deserves to be in the Hall of Fame is Cindy Lauper I can't tell everybody why she's not but like who today if that were to happen today who would be the Hogan who would be the Piper who would be the Mr.

1:21:44T who would be the Cindy Lauper I think about this all the time and Yeah, that is really interesting. I would. Would it be, I mean, Taylor Swift, would she be the Cindy Laupert? Dude, Sabrina Carpenter. Sabrina Carpenter, one of those. I don't think she's as big as what Cindy Laupert was. No, but so I'd say, I mean, Taylor is beyond anything. But yeah, I can't imagine if Taylor Swift or Beyonce supported a wrestler. like if Beyonce came out and you have a heel like I almost called him Walter if you had Gunther come out and do something to Beyonce and then Obafemi comes out and saves Beyonce let's go well this will be every Beyonce music video from here to the end of time so awesome That'd be so great.

1:22:47I always think about that, man. Who could play those roles? A thousand percent. I guess it would have to truly be Roman. A hundred percent. Okay, so then who would be the actor, though? Who would be the tough guy actor? Would it be Jason Statham? Would it be, you know, he's always playing the tough guy. Honestly, it might be The Rock. Yeah, he's a big action star. We should put him in there.

1:23:14O'Shea:it just works it just works there's this guy I saw I watched in the movie The Marine this John Cena guy that might be fun dude one year for Christmas I got my sister Karima a DVD copy of The Marine 6 that's what the men say and no Christmas would be complete she opened it she's like the marine six yeah have you seen the first five let me tell you about mr kennedy she started at six oh that's so funny you're a horrible gift giver it's hilarious to me I had a great time yeah I would it's funny because yeah do you do like a Vin Diesel yeah that's right man we're family cut some wicked promos uh maybe maybe you go old as hell and you'd be like well liam neeson you're taken yeah right let's put liam neeson in a singlet it would be like he would play gunther in his life story it seems right yeah dude that plays uh zangief and uh street fighter that's the biggest human i've ever seen so uh Yeah, the guy, he was in Reacher.

1:24:40Oh, yeah. Olivier. Oh. Is that who you're talking about? Yeah, yeah. The guy we said. Let's go. WrestleMania, yeah. All right. We have a picture with him. Now, D-Lo, I'm going to need you to put this in right here. I think I know who would be the Mr. T part. Jason Momoa. Oh, solid. He's in everything. Yeah, he's in everything. He's got the build. You know, he's still like, yeah, I think that'll work. I think Jason would be playing Roman in the Roman Reigns story. Oh, man. Yeah. Yeah, Jason Momoa also happens to be my wife's hall pass. That's weird. You know? For real? Yeah, for real. Jason, if you're watching, I know you're a wrestling fan.

1:25:17You know, if you're into 5 '7 Chinese women, go for it, man. All right, well, so it's only right to ask Brad Williams who's on your hall pass. Oh, my hall pass? See, I can't. We're making all things happen for you today, Brad. I can't have a hall pass list because I'm actually touring, so I might actually meet these people. I want you to have a happy home so we'll not take that question I asked Carol you jerk thank you thank you for those of you who don't know my wife has a friend named Carol who I fucking hate I'll go on every podcast talk about her she said some really horrible things to me and so I talk about her on the specials and dude thank you sir and I'm going to keep talking about her because as I said in my special I am daring her to sue me.

1:26:04I am daring her because then she'll literally have to be in court being like these are the reasons why I'm not a bitch and I'll be like objection and I'll and I will overrule that. So yeah that's a real, people ask me all the time is that a real thing and I go yeah. Carol sucks. And the thing is I never say her last name so literally it's just like You can be talking about Carol Baskin. Exactly. You don't know what I'm talking about so that's when of my get out of jail free cards. I'm explaining my whole strategy here. All I did was I said, Carol's a bitch, and you went, he's talking about me.

1:26:43Hit the alcohol. Yeah, maybe don't say something and no one would be like, yeah, that bitch over there. Yeah, that'd be Carol. Yeah, man. That's real. Dude, shout out to you. I got you, bro.

1:26:55O'Shea:Fuck Carol. O'Shea Jackson Jr. I'm going to get that clip, and I'm going to send it to her. then he's gonna get sued that's about Carol Baskin yeah it's about Carol Baskin you know she'll sue yeah she will she's a very very religious alright so let me jump into this Brad Williams you are I'm sure you know you'd be touring the country I know your bank account is fat Brad Williams you are now starting the BWWA the Brad Williams Wrestling Association alright so here's what I'm gonna need you to do as I pull out my my pen here with the multiple colors like I'm back in grade school for the bwwa yeah you need 10 wrestlers 10 to start your organization with any promotion any promotion yeah okay you need 10 because you know the trucks are ready you're about to go on to the tickets are already sold but you got to fill up you got five you know you got matches you need promote you know you need everything this is fun so give me 10 people it doesn't have to be just a wrestler either.

1:27:57Oh, okay. So it could be like announcer, manager. All right. Because, all right. So number one draft pick for me, Will Ospreay. Okay. Yeah. Bruv. Bruv. We hung out with Bruv over WrestleMania weekend. That's right. You hung out with him, Bruv. Yeah. Oh, dude. How's Vegas treating you, Bruv?

1:28:16O'Shea:And you're right. You take shots with him. Yeah. When you're around Will Ospreay, you will have a drink in your hand. That is just That is just how that works. I drank with him on the Jericho cruise along with the entire boat. We're going to talk about that too. Yeah. I would go Will Ospreay number two just because I would love to see them have their match again. They had a great match at the G1, and it was Lance Archer. I love Lance Archer. He's my friend, but also I don't think he's gotten enough respect. I think he's a beast. He's a monster. He's in his mid-40s. He can still move. He can still work.

1:28:55He's awesome. Everyone must die. Yeah. What a great catchphrase. Everybody. Yeah. Everybody dies. Everybody dies. Yeah. So it's like, I would go him. Everybody dies. Man. You got to do Kenny Omega. Okay. I'm going to do some WWE, guys. Hold on. This is the BWW. Yeah. Full disclosure, I'm mostly an AEW guy. Oh, so you got to get MJF as a heel Got to Right now he's my favorite heel in the business Is that five? That's four Okay Alright, we'll go with WWE guy I love Chad Gable Oh, nice I love that

1:29:39O'Shea:Now, are you getting him or are you getting OG Americana? Why would he get OG Americana? Why would I get him? I want to check him Because they know each other, bro He said he has his number Yeah, but that doesn't mean you would take one for the other Yeah, that's fine Well, I mean, I'm not trying to take up his picks they got the same moveset is all i'm saying i haven't seen chad gable in almost almost a year i hope he's doing well yeah oh no we did see him i saw him at the airport no well we was uh i saw him in vegas right and i was like what's that gable doing yeah right i i i'd love to see him back in the ring i'd love like a dream match would be him and el grande americano that would be whoa that would be a damn dream you want to talk about hunter get on it you want to talk about feeding generations yeah let's do that so will osprey land sarcher kenny omega mjf chad gable those yeah first five uh and then um just remind people we're building the bwwa to yeah williams wrestling associate uh he could still go he's a great worker he could sell like crazy i'm going uh nick nemeth yes dolph ziggler listen when we were talking about uh wrestlers setting up matches backstage.

1:30:50O'Shea:He's the dude I was thinking of. He's just bouncing on his tippy toes, talking about, yeah, from there you just do this. He made it seem so easy. My God. Dude knows it like the back of his hand. Underappreciated. Yeah. Very underappreciated. See, I'm trying to build with some faces and some heels. So I like having a little bit of everybody. This man's career is amazing to me. It's gone in waves, and I think he's having a bit of a resurgence right now, and I love it. I would throw the Miz in there. Card is working, man. You got to throw some vets in there, man. You could have some young, exciting guys, but then you also got to throw in some vets that know how to storytell it, know how to hold it down, that can put on those types of really entertaining matches.

1:31:34Well, Miz told me on the Rich Eisen show last week when I was trying to give him a guess who might be Dan Housen's tag team partner, he got mad at me because I said Jacob Fatu was a better interview than him, and he threatened to slap me in the face, and he wanted me to be Dan Housen's tag team partner. So, you know, if he's there, I'm bringing this kendo stick. Yes. See, now I'm thinking which one of. We've got three spots left. Yeah, which one of the bloodline would I put in there? Because I got to put somebody. Jacob, that dude.

1:32:06O'Shea:Yeah, all gas, no bricks. All gas. That's what I mean. That's a beast. All right, let's go. Yeah, let's go Jacob. Okay. Jacob Fatu. Then he can cook. Really? That's what he said in our interview. I love that. He can cook it, bro. And I'll go Penta. Penta. That's our guy. Yeah. All right. Hey, Penta, you made me cry. He made me cry legit tears. How so? Because I was watching one of the AEW pay-per-views. They had the cage match with the Bucks. And that was an amazing match. You know, they put thumbtacks on their shoes. Right. And then they were delivering super kicks. and as a father right when the match ended you saw him go up to his daughter and you saw him be like daddy's okay daddy's okay damn you Penta I'm sitting here sobbing I got a six year old I'm just like yeah daddy's okay real quick when you have a kid I tell people I used to be cold and ruthless I was a ruthless warrior TJ my heart was ice now any wholesome moment.

1:33:16O'Shea:I'm like, you know, I'm like, it gets you, dude. When I'm on TikTok and I see like soldiers coming home. Oh, yeah. That's going to get you. Soldiers coming home. The dog recognizes the soldier. He's been gone for six years. A good commercial put me down, bro. You talking about like, throw me a Subaru with the puppies. I'm crying. Do I got one more? You got one more? Oh, Oba. Yeah, come on now. Let's go Oba. That is the future of this business. Let me tell you something. I'm buying a ticket to come see the BWW. Yeah. Ospreay, Archer, Omega, Friedman, Gable, Nemeth, Miz, Fatou, and Oba Femi. That'd be some fun matches in those 10.

1:34:02Because you want to see Archer and Oba just have a big meaty man slapping the meat. Meat slap fest. And then you got a net. Oh, man, yeah. You can get busy with this one. Yeah, exactly. No, there's fun matches, and a really great part is that right now, like comedy, there's just so much. For pro wrestling, there's so much out there. You can like the WWE. You can like AEW. You can like what they're doing in TNA. You can watch NXT. You can watch it all, and it's so good. They all have their different styles. They all have their different ways of going. They all have their different stars, different people that they're pushing, and it's fun.

1:34:43it's just fun wrestling is fun

1:34:46O'Shea:are there any wrestlers that you don't know that like there are certain people where I'm just like I will never move it no matter what no matter flipping from heel to face Bianca Belair for me Roman and Baron Corbin that's my boy Baron Corbin's my boy great finisher in the days easily top 10 finishers of all time an amazing finisher It doesn't get, I'm putting that, you know what's going to go down is an amazing finisher, like once it's all said and done, if she can keep doing it, soul snatch her. Oh, my God. Every time she hits, I'm like, God. Yeah, bro. That thing's pretty insane. I love that move so much.

1:35:31But, yeah, it's, yeah, like there's all these different types, man. It's so, wrestling is so fun right now. It's in a great spot. The tribalism is so dumb to me. because as wrestling fans we're all in a little bubble, everyone thinks we're weird anyway, but now we're going to divide ourselves even more that's just stupid you talk to the wrestlers, they don't care they don't give a damn they're like, oh someone signed with such and such great, good, they're getting paid they're working, awesome they know how hard this business is and they're supporting you asked me a question, I dodged it I don't want to act like I dodged it it was something about finishers No, no, no.

1:36:11O'Shea:It was, who's a star that you don't know personally that you will never boo? Oh, okay. That I don't know, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Man.

1:36:24Bro, it's tough because he's like the super face, but I can't boo Cody. I feel that. I'll never boo Cody. I feel that. There can be some Cody haters out there. Totally fine. I'll never boo that guy. to go and have the path that he did. You know, you could say Nepo Baby, whatever. Nepo Baby's up by a billion, by the way. That's his bio. Nepo Baby's up by a billion, baby. But then at the same time, you look at wrestling, there's a lot of Nepo Babies in there. A lot of people come in. Vince and Tony. Yeah. Come on, baby. So, yeah. So, it's like coming in, not getting it right exactly his first run, going out in the indies going aw building up that cody roads character blonde hair the whole thing dressed up like captain america to come back then to the wwe and be what he is put on the matches and just truly be an ambassador for pro wrestling i will i will never boo that man and uh i will

1:37:28O'Shea:never boo john cena uh you oh man i made a career out of booing him you now but you won't boo him anymore. No, he's a great guy. Dude, that's the thing is that once I found out he had the record, you want to talk about emotional shit, the record for the most make-a-wishes granted, it's like, I can't boo that man. Yeah, right. I told my dad and he was like, really? That's impressive. It really is. That's all he got. Yeah, you can't boo him. There are just some people out there that are just really, really good people. Yeah, what they do. Yeah, it's great. So those people now, there might be some guy going like, I met Cody.

1:38:06He was an asshole. I don't know. He's always been really nice. He was a heel when he met him. Yeah, exactly. I love that you could always blame that on, oh, I was a heel. Yeah, come on, dog. Well, that's like comedians with roasting where you're like, oh, you said some horrible shit. I'm like, yeah, roast. That's what you do. You don't like horrible shit, don't watch a roast. Don't be involved in a roast. Don't go to a luau if you're a vegetarian. okay like it's like that's what's gonna happen there tells me nuts uh you're the director of laughs what's up the chris jericho rock and wrestling rager yes the director of last director tell us about this job do you have cards that you yeah i wish um yeah i book all the comedians on the chris jericho rock and wrestling rager at sea uh it's uh it is something that i love because it's pro wrestling, heavy metal, comedy on a boat.

1:38:58It's amazing. It's so much fun. If you buy in, you just have a great time. Yes, we've had some amazing comedians on there. We even got Fluffy to do it one time. Because Fluffy wanted to. He's a big wrestling fan. He said he wants to come on the pod. Sometimes he has people that work for him that are like, no, you're not getting paid enough. No, it's not worth your time. Fluffy's the man because he was like, no i want to do this and so i get to book some of my friends and comedians who get it who love wrestling whether it be uh you know like uh and and also there's a lot of comedian or there's a lot of wrestlers now they're trying comedy like yeah good at it nick nameth he's good at it he did it he's been doing it for years yeah you know so he so he's doing well but that all came about it was crazy i did a show one time at the tampa improv and this woman comes up to me after the show and she's like oh man i had a great time and my husband's in entertainment so i get it and i was and i'd go who's your husband okay and she's like chris jericho and i'm like oh oh nice okay she's like i'm gonna tell him you're really funny and i'm like sure that'll go nowhere and then sure enough two days later and into my in my dms hey it's chris jericho yeah what's up man i'm coming to la uh my wife says you're really funny would love you to hop on the podcast i was like alright and then he started doing the cruise and I literally texted him and was like I don't care you don't have to pay me let me go on this cruise let me perform let me do something and he likes the fact that I'm a wrestling fan and I get it and I go to all the all the events like I'm not just the ones that I'm on I'll watch the wrestling I'll do I'll go watch the live podcast you'll get in the ring if necessary I have been let's talk about the quote our brother trick another guy will never do yeah talk about a little pop a pump here bro yeah bro that's the craziest story because i have a fan who literally was like hey i make these little chain mail things like he loves renfares and stuff and he goes like i i make chain mail stuff i'm a big fan of yours can i make you something out of chain mail and i'm like racking my brain like what am i gonna need a chain mail thing for and then i go oh yeah pop a pump steiner he had the chain mail thing okay cool make me a steiner thing so he makes me that and i bring it to the jericho cruise because why wouldn't you because why wouldn't i and then i have no intention of what i'm going to do with it i'm just go let let me just have this yeah and literally before the main event happens uh on the jericho cruise i get a text from jericho where are you and i'm like i'm out here ready to watch the main event he's like get back here now and i ran i ran back there he's like okay we were gonna do this thing with steiner doing a run-in but steiner but steiner went to bed so so like we need someone he goes do you want to do the running and i go yeah you know i have this chain mail in my bag i run i grab it i put it on everyone's like holy shit it's a little pop a pump perfect and you know and the music hits and i come out with the sunglasses and the chain mail and i'm flexing harder than i've ever flexed in my entire life and uh all the wrestlers are great man i got to give a couple of belly to belly suplexes they made me look really awesome but nothing and i do mean nothing as fun as that was there have been some memories that was great I got to give a Dudley boys what's up headbutt to the guns that was fun that was great got to be in the ring with Ultimo Dragon I'm wearing his shirt but nothing will top me and Hornswoggle on the Jericho cruise where we had been feuding all week and at one point like we were avoiding each other on purpose we didn't even know what was going to happen on the cruise we're like let's just keep this going and we pass each other one time completely accidentally and literally a crowd forms around us as we're passing each other going oh so I'm like oh shit we gotta do something so I look at Dylan and I'm like hit me he goes hit me cranks back slaps me across my face the whole place goes nuts and then i'm gonna start yelling at him this is not over this is not over so then main event uh uh at the jericho cruise that night um there there's a match and the referee gets knocked out uh swoggle comes out he's wearing a guest referee shirt everyone's like okay swoggle's gonna count for the good guy and he goes one, two, stops the count, double birds to the good guy, which I think was Flip Wilson.

1:43:39Flip Gordon. Flip Gordon. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Flip Gordon. And then he double birds to Flip. Everyone's going nuts. And then I run out. And then we stand like I come up and I just kind of tap him. He turns around. We're standing eye to eye, which is the only person I could do that with. And then the crowd starts chanting, holy shit holy for a stare down and i'm like this is amazing and um swoggles looking at me he's like hold hold hold yeah and he's telling me to milk it which thank thank you because i would have rushed the punchline so i'm like hold okay cool and we're just staring at each other the crowd the crowd's chanting and then i just kick him in the stomach stunner the the boat goes nuts And I'm just like this, just that, just that little dip my toe into wrestling.

1:44:33Just that little, yeah, just right there was enough for make me to go, oh, that's why these guys do this shit. Because that pop was just like, oh, my God. It was so great. What was better, that or just telling a joke that you constructed for a while and have it hit? No, the stunner. I'll take that. I see my buddy Jelly Roll and he gets to go into the ring and he gets to do some stuff. And he's taking it seriously. I was with him last week and we were talking about it. And I'm looking at him like, oh, I want to do this so bad. I got to see Wee Man got to body slam Sami Zayn at WrestleMania. That was so cool.

1:45:17That was fun. And I'm looking at that like, I want to do that. I want to do something. So Danhausen, like I said. Right. Speaking of Danhausen, right, I know you were saying that you wanted to be one of the – but are you sure you never did it before? Wrestling? The Danhausen thing. Oh, I've never done the Danhausen stuff. Are you sure? Positive. I saw a picture. There's no way we pulled this off.

1:45:50O'Shea:How much money do we really have? That kind of looks like you. That is incredible. Please show. Dan Housen, you know I can be in your corner. I can put a little curse on someone. Just a little curse. That's incredible. Bring that picture back up. Can we pop that back up? Print that shit out. It's weird how it kind of looks like Seth Green. Stop it. Seth Green? A little bit. Dude. It's the eyes. I would love to have a King of the Ring with me, Seth Green, Kevin Hart, and Cat Williams. And just see who is the number one short guy. Let's have it out. That's my dream match. Brad, this has been dope, bro.

1:46:36Glad you came in the stop. But before we let you go, there's a question that we got to ask you. Because everyone has to answer this question. Shay, hit him off with it real quick. Ask away. Yes, sir.

1:46:45O'Shea:It's a troubling situation, brother. you're at a bar there's 50 dudes at this bar oh I know what I'm going to answer there's 50 dudes at this bar and they do not like Carol sent them these are all Carol's uncles her neck Carol's thugs and you were telling some jokes that they did not like so I need you to pick a team of yourself and four other wrestlers of any promotion of any time to make sure that Brad is getting home to Diego and Daisy. Ooh, I love that. The one name that popped into my list immediately because of just the stories I have heard, Haku. Of course. The Hall of Fame! We kind of got to the point at one point where we were going to do this question and say, name anyone but Haku.

1:47:35But Haku. Yeah, but Haku. When wrestlers say that that's the guy they want, back them up, I'm like, that's the guy. Okay. So I go Haku. You would think I would go Lesnar, but I know that prime Kurt Angle could take down Brock Lesnar as a wrestler. So I would do prime.

1:47:59O'Shea:Broken freaking neck. With a broken freaking neck. He would do it. So I would do prime Kurt Angle. Let's see. So I got four? You got two more. All right. Two more. Mark Henry. Yep. Let's go. bro i asked him his personal record he said i squatted a thousand six like come on that's that's stupid that's a video game that's street fighter taking out the car with a hundred hand slap like that's not all right and one more uh one more tough guy that if i'm in there i need to know that i'm coming out alive with hot what first of all i think i would just need haku but Haku, Mark Henry. Oh, easy. Prime Andre.

1:48:43O'Shea:Yep, that's exactly what I was thinking. Prime Andre. That's the second time in a row Andre has been picked, by the way. Bro, how do you not? I love the story of him teaching the Ultimate Warrior to slow down. Slow down. Slow down during your matches. Boom, just hold out the fist. He's learning. The thing about Andre is, like, if you're of a certain age, you started to know about Andre the Giant, I'd say, around, you know, 84, 85. So you already saw the Andre a little bit older. You go on YouTube, you look at young Andre. I'm talking from, like, 1976. Bro doing drop kicks. Drop kicks. He's seven foot tall.

1:49:18He's 370 pounds. Yeah. Yeah. So you, Andre, Mark Henry, Haku, and Kurt Angle. No. No one's walking out. We're all walking out without a scratch on us. There you go. With that one. Andre just swings. Anybody want a peanut? Love that. I'm walking out a free man in the line. I think you're just sitting on the bar having a beer. Oh, I'm enjoying it. I'm just laughing my ass off. Aren't you sad Carol sent you? Yeah. I got friends, motherfucker. Ripping throats. All right, Brad, tell us about your tour dates, man. Where can everybody see you coming up, my brother? Go to bradwilliamscomedy.com. By the time this comes out, I'm taking the summer off.

1:50:04But then right when my daughter goes back to school, I'm going back on the road. So starting in September, I'm going all over the country. In December, I'm going all over the world. I'm going to Scotland. I'm going to Sweden. I'm going to England. I'm going to Amsterdam. So, yeah, bradwilliamscomedy.com. That's where you can also check out my podcast, Height and Babble with B and JB Ball. And then that's where you can also watch my specials, Starfish, which just hit 9 million views. That was the last one. And now this one live on Short Street. it is my favorite it is fun I had a good time I'm really glad you guys enjoyed it don't wear flip flops around Brad no no just run around if you meet a Carol tell her fuck that bitch love it man Brad Williams ladies and gentlemen thank you Brad Brad Housen you are cursed

1:50:57O'Shea:Carol we coming for you Brad Williams Super chill. Yeah, man, that was fun. It's always fun when we can have a celebrity fan. Yeah. I dig that. I dig those shows. We told them we're trying to get fluffy. I might steal my dad's phone to see if we could get Snoop. Ooh. Come on, man. You a Hall of Famer. Snoop's been in this studio multiple times. Damn, man. He used to be the, for the Super Bowl, he was the Rich Eisen show guy who went around to interview the team. Oh, that's hard. He was the Rich Eisen show correspondent. Okay. As he said, he was doing analyzum. Okay. All right. Yeah. I used that word yesterday.

1:51:46Hey, pause.

1:51:47O'Shea:But, yeah. Hey, man, I need to get off of that job. You know what? Let me talk about this real quick. I have been coming to this studio a whole lot over the last year and a half. And I am a series regular on the Rich Eisen show. You know, it's not one picture of me around here. Yeah, so? He over there hugged up with Jimmy Smith or whoever the hell and people all in the hallway. Not one picture of me. Why would there be? You work here. bro it is a crime you work here now there's pictures of you no there's not not on the wall how come there ain't no brothers on the wall rich well that's the thing there are brothers I made sure that TJ you are D-Lo be ready to bleep don't bleep this up alright god you're not getting your picture on the wall man I need a picture on the wall man I'm the black son around here I'm here unbelievable anyway thank you Brad Williams TKO we on you we love you we just want you to love us back right and I'm saying I'm a serious TKO if you need to bring in a couple brothers tell us about the history of this what that's what we're here for Charles Rice what up Chuck come on baby am I still a client I mean I ain't got a Christmas card in a while I'm saying bro invite me to the little Oscar party and That's it.

1:53:17O'Shea:You don't call. You don't write. Anyway, if you want to know how to get a hold of us, TJ, tell them where to find us. All right. So to watch this great interview we have with Brad Williams today, just make sure you follow us on socials. First of all, you go to the YouTube. And I said the YouTube. That's right. And you type out Rich Eisen's show or just type No Contest Wrestling. You'll be able to see every episode from one to this one, which I believe is 84. It might be 85. 85. 85. 85. We're the Ocho Cinco? Yeah! Ocho Cinco! 185. Or on socials, you follow us on Twitter at There's No Contest. Instagram, No Contest Wrestling Podcast.

1:53:57On TikTok, No Contest Wrestling Pod. And everywhere, you know, you listen to your podcast. ESPN, Apple, Spotify, Amazon Music. We're everywhere, basically. Yadda da me.

1:54:09O'Shea:You know, Ocho Cinco is not how you say 85? Yes, I do know that. That boy is crazy. He changed his name to that. Yeah, Yeah, right. Full 85 episodes, G. Yeah. 15 to 100. Donde esta biblioteca. I do not speak German. That's right, man. On behalf of myself and TJ Jefferson, make sure you have a good day, but not too good. It's who the hell you think you are. Oh, look at this. We got Danny DeVito. We got Billy Bob Foote. Look at this. There's Shaq. Look at this, Shaq. Look like a silhouette. Let's see who I am. There's Will Ferrell and John C. Reilly. Yep. there's Ken Jeong I believe that's Superman down there there's Chris Webber you know what I mean oh he went to Michigan Anthony Anderson and look at that a spot for Shane Michael Douglas you ain't beating Michael Douglas on the wall you know Michael Keaton's name is Michael Douglas I did not know that yeah he had to change it because of Michael Douglas by the way speaking of Miss Parker oh yeah yeah I did not like the way they put her and Callie Armstrong against one another I didn't like the way they're playing with us Yeah, I ain't like that at all.

1:55:15We're going to have to get to the bottom of that next week, all right? Don't make me bring my kendo stick to floor. You heard?

1:55:20O'Shea:Kendo stick. Oh, bye, Ms. Parker. Oh, yeah, bye, Ms. Parker, again. That's two times.