Exclusive interview with Nikki Blackheart, reactions to the Judgement Day taking out Finn Balor and the Uso's taking out CM Punk

24:19Nikki Blackheart:That's just like because in AEW, Christian Cage, his entire character is talking about wrestlers dead fathers. He not only Nick Wayne, his father passed Buddy Wayne. He took him under his arm and then he brought his mom, Dukes, into the for into the fray. Like everything about Christian is talking about someone's dead father. So I can't believe the fact that Punk said what he said would elicit such a response because a man over here is his whole character. Let's talk about people's dead dads.

24:52O'Shea:It's wrestling, bro.

24:54Nikki Blackheart:And you think he came out and just said that on his own?

24:57O'Shea:Yeah. Like just out of the blue? So like, I didn't jump on this. Oh, man. Phil needs to rely. People talking about now if Roman bring up Larry. Like, bro. Which he should because. It's wrestling. it's like we know what we looking at and people are just are so selective and what they want to be reacting to now the things that i was going off about yesterday is the same shit that i've been saying since before punk even came back like this has been this was my my whole thing during Roman's reign and people act like they forget. When I see this still happening, I gotta react. It's not to get on Punk when Punk's worst thing, I'm so worried about because I know what I'm watching and he's in his bag.

25:53O'Shea:What happened last episode, the one thing I hit Punk about, I said, Jimmy caught you with that right hand. Oh, by the way, yeah.

26:06Nikki Blackheart:Obviously not

26:06O'Shea:purposely, but that one landed a little bit. He caught your ass with that right hand. He said, I'm suing. But, yeah, I'm like, that's it. I've had no issues with either side.

26:16Nikki Blackheart:I'm just one-to-one. From outside looking around, it seems like you're more on the punks, or the Roman side than the punks.

26:22O'Shea:Well, I do not expect Roman Reigns to win. What? No. He shouldn't. He shouldn't. Everybody's telling me he never here. Why would he win?

26:34Nikki Blackheart:Because he's Roman Reigns. because he's Roman Reigns this is why you gotta watch

26:42O'Shea:I don't expect him to win really? no that's interesting if he win I'm gonna be like I will be so annoying but like I don't expect him to win everybody where you look everybody's talking about like is he even gonna even be here so why the hell would you put the belt on him? because because it's Roman Reigns He's Roman Reigns. He's Roman Reigns. And then when that belt go away, then what?

27:09Nikki Blackheart:We going to make another one? You're going to mock this because that's what you do. But you're like me when I see the Clippers play the Sixers. No matter who, no matter, even when I lose, I win. You know what I'm saying? So I'm just trying to give you an example. So you're saying no matter what, no matter who wins.

27:24O'Shea:Don't you ever listen.

27:26Nikki Blackheart:The point being, no matter who wins or who loses, you're going to win. I mean yeah but like

27:33O'Shea:even when I lose I win yeah shout out to LaVar it is really great for me this is yeah this is the first time that's ever gonna happen in a Wrestlemania main event but yeah either way I mean I'm chilling it's my favorite versus my friend I don't expect my favorite to win because he's never here he's never here if he's gonna be here then that's different the Uso thing is adding a new layer so let's talk about that

27:59Nikki Blackheart:but like that's predictable now Let's get back to that. That's the thing, right? Because all of this other stuff was your opinion on Twitter, but this really happened. So, like you said, Uso's about to dip. Jimmy is, you know, he's always a little bit more controlled. Jay's a little bit more of the hothead. So Jay's already a little heated still about what Punk said. Jackie Redman says what she says. Now they got to go back out. The way Jay was going off is kind of what you expected, right? Little hot head. You gotta apologize. But the way Jimmy was like, he was more like Jake the Snake Roberts, right?

28:37Nikki Blackheart:Honestly,

28:38O'Shea:a really good look for Jimmy, by the way.

28:40Nikki Blackheart:Yeah, because the thing about, like, when we always talk about great promo guys, right? One of the guys, or a couple of guys I loved growing up were always Arn Anderson and Jake the Snake Roberts. Why? Because while most guys, especially back in the end, would yell and scream and rant to get their opinions and their thoughts crossed. Arn and Jake would just stare right down the barrel of the camera and they would tell you something and they'd pull out some type of reference like a four horseman or something that Jake the Snake would say that you were like I don't even know what that is but never raised their voice and they would look at you cold and calculated and they would tell you what was about to go down and you'd get DDT'd or whatever.

29:21Nikki Blackheart:That was kind of Jimmy. He didn't really yell and scream and rant. He was just like look this is the fact this is what happened this is what you need to do and so shout out to big jim i mean you were mad at big jim for a few months because he's still mad at big jim i'm still mad at him what because big jim liked to netflix and chill too much and he messed up one of the greatest storylines that we've had but she'll be back big jim got me nervous about uh bianca and montez kicking it at the house bro it's been a long time bro but yeah so you know they're basically like you need to apologize and then punk went on this thing about how he spent time with the wild samoans how he was closer to offer than seca but still you know and he babysit babysat their cousin lance and then he brought up samu quick tj story somebody shout out to someone on on youtube the other day that was like tj has a weird connection to almost everything and i was like yeah i've been around samu from the wild samoans the head shrinkers back in the day at altoona at the Jaffa Mosque.

30:22Nikki Blackheart:I sat next to his wife one day when I was in junior high and talked to her and she let me come behind the arena with her to meet him and he sat in his minivan with me and he let me as a young journalist do a story on him, man. So always shout out. I don't know if I've ever told that story here on the show, but shout out to Sam Muda Samoan because I'll never forget that. Just sitting in his minivan when the side doors open and he's just talking to this kid who loved wrestling, man. So that just kind of popped me when i heard his name i want to thank him for taking the time because who knows if he doesn't do that maybe i'm not here doing this but the point being he made this connection to the whole family you know and he talked about spirituality and could seek a hear what was going on and all that was going on and then he's like i'm sorry but the way he said i'm sorry yeah and then he called the usos young boys now for those that Don't watch New Japan.

31:21Nikki Blackheart:Young boy is like, they would put these young wrestlers that were training in the dojos. They're the young boys. They clean up after the stars. They do their laundry. They cook for them. When you watch New Japan, you'll see these guys around the ring in tracksuits. The Padawan. Padawan, exactly. These are all the young boys. If you go back and you watch like 10 years ago, right, you'll see stars of the day now. You'll see the Jay Whites and the Finleys and guys like that who are all now players, they all started out over there as young boys. And it's crazy when you go back, you will even see, like, Okada, I believe, as a young boy.

31:57Nikki Blackheart:You'll see Tanahashi as a young boy back in the day. But that is not something that you say to veterans, to multiple-time tag team champs, to a former world champion. You don't call them young boys, man. And so that is why he got starched. And, like, if you were watching it, you were like,

32:17O'Shea:dang it really seemed like they should be stomping them out or anything right it was one quick little

32:22Nikki Blackheart:hit and then they backed up the one crack medevac as they say on the island one crack medevac look i want to get into this with you more and i'm sure we will but we got a special guest man at the door you and i have been longtime fans of since we both looked at twitter one day and saw a picture and we the next day we were in the studio going um we need to be in the business of this person immediate. Yeah. And we did. Yeah. It happened.

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33:50O'Shea:I think it's always fun when we have somebody revisit, you know, the No Contest Wrestling Podcast. And, you know, somebody who's been pretty busy as of late, it's an old friend of ours, Nicky Blackheart. Hey. Welcome back to the No Contest Wrestling Podcast.

34:10O'Shea:how's everything how's everything been we hear through the internet there's been things that you've been a little busy about but how are you so far i'm doing awesome ever since i saw you guys

34:23TJ:a lot has been going on like you said i've been pretty busy and very blessed to at the same time um you know as you guys saw i've been going to different promotions different states obviously recently had the WWE tryout. So, yeah, I've been doing a lot lately.

34:40O'Shea:Now, with you going to all these different promotions, you know, going around to different states and things like that, where have you had the most fun at? You know, is there any city that's really stand out to you? And also, talk to us about that journey of, you know, taking the internet by storm when we first spoke to you and kind of what your wrestling career has been like going to all these new spots. Yes. Nikki Blackheart.

35:09TJ:I want to say the most fun so far because I got to do so much and meet so many different people would be Wrestlecade. I did a couple of different shows in the same week. And like I said, I met so many, so many people. So that's definitely something that's going on in the memory bank. So that was really exciting. But overall, I always have fun. I tried my best to, you know, do whatever I need to do to have fun. Because for the longest time, I wasn't having fun. I know I mentioned that to you guys because I was, like, taking everything so seriously and trying to be a perfectionist all the time. But the second that I stopped putting that pressure on myself, everything became a lot better.

35:44Now, you blew up over social media.

35:48Nikki Blackheart:There was a picture that came out. And people were like, who is this? Where does she wrestle? What's this all about? And that's how we became aware of you. So in that time, since that happened till now, since the last time we spoke with you, if I could ask you, like, what's the biggest thing that you've learned about this business since that happened? Since we all became aware of you?

36:16TJ:I think that applies to the entertainment industry. And I know you guys can relate to this where it's like everything happens very quickly. It's like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. then it's like rush rush rush rush rush and you just have to be ready for anything because you could be you know here one day needed the somewhere else the next day there's just like so much going on all the time and you just never know when you're going to fit in the role that they're looking for at that point so you just got to be ready and I feel like like I said that applies to entertainment overall so the biggest biggest thing I would say is stay ready because you never know when you're getting a call for an opportunity you never know when you're going to run into somebody that, you know, might help you to your next thing that you're doing or the next step in your journey.

37:00TJ:So for me, it's always been like, stay ready, whatever that looks like for you, but whether that's your in-ring cardio, your look, um, you know, having proper gear, just like whatever that means for you, just, just be ready. Cause you never know when it's going to happen. Everything moves very fast. Cause all of this, I mean, the picture came out beginning of June, then you know i posted that power slam like second week of june and then ever since then everything's been very very busy so things move pretty pretty quickly that's what i would say stay ready is there

37:33Nikki Blackheart:is there a particular podcast that you got to do throughout all that time that stands out as maybe your favorite since you really blew up i mean obviously you guys have done so much for me and

37:45TJ:And you guys know that's the first one I did. I know, right? Really? I'm pretty picky with where I go because, like, you never know who the heck you're talking to and what the heck they're going to do with that content and how they're going to edit it and make you sound crazy out there on the internet, you know? So I have been pretty selective with where I speak. So, you know, you guys know I'm so grateful for you. Stop it.

38:14O'Shea:oh but um yeah uh so that uh yeah that power slam you know the power slam that took the internet by storm but tj yes sir her drop kick is kind of crazy as well right i just want to put it out there because we did a list of drop kicks we did our favorite drop kicks and her uh hers kind of hit the internet after we did that episode i was like we look so stupid we could have just said Nikki and it would have been great. But yeah, your moveset, we've definitely been watching you. The box jumps alone make everybody else inadequate. Yeah, I'm thinking those are AI. Bro, I'm so mad. I'm like, damn, I'm lazy as shit, dude.

38:58O'Shea:But so you've also ran into a friend of the show on your journey out, Bayley. Bayley is a Black Heart fan, dude. and and you know she always bigs you up talk to us about uh your time at lodestone yeah oh my

39:18TJ:goodness i love that you're asking this question because i'm like i can't talk about it enough so it was so crazy because i was just with athena um palmer this this weekend yeah i got to train with her yesterday and i was telling her i'm like dude like i'm so grateful for you because it was like a, I'm not saying that this is what did it, but it definitely helped because like I got booked in her, you know, who runs the world women's show, which is so amazing that she's giving a platform for many women in wrestling to, you know, to, to showcase their talent and do everything. So, you know, I got booked to that show.

39:53Bailey happened to be back there, you know,

39:56TJ:supporting the show and, you know, I got to talk to her and this is after I had submitted my application and all that. And again, I'm not saying that this is what helped, but it always helps to put a face to the name. So that was my first time actually meeting her in person. And then when I got the email back that I was selected as one of the Lowstone girls, I mean, I obviously sobbed because I'm a freaking marshmallow. So I started crying like a freaking baby. And going out there, the first thing that I noticed is just like her love and passion for the business, her love and passion for women's wrestling.

40:29TJ:And as I'm not saying like, it doesn't happen to men, but as a girl and as a woman in a male dominated industry, it's really hard to feel like you fit in a lot of the times you're like, you're included because for the longest time, the mindset was like, Oh, we're all fighting for like a spot, you know? And the theme throughout the entire time that I was there was, you know, Charlotte said it, Bianca Belairi said it, Bailey, you know, really honed in on this is that it's always collaboration over competition. The more that we collaborate, the more that we help each other, the further that we go, you know, share your, your girls booking stuff.

41:06TJ:Like, Hey, please book this girl, like not just me, you know, and not be that person. It's like, Oh, I want to see you do well, but not better than me. Because at the end of the day, we're all so different. What I do is not what someone else does. Like my spot is designed for me. If that's what they're looking for your spot to sign for you if that's what they're looking for because i'll tell you right now maybe later down the line but you're not going to see me in the top of doing no moon so okay so there's a girl out there that's gonna be doing that that no matter what i do i just it's not my role you know so um so that was like the biggest thing and then obviously like getting to be there with girls from different places different experience levels it was just it was amazing and like I said, Bailey put together such an amazing thing.

41:49TJ:We were busy the entire time. We learned so much. We ran matches. Freaking John Cena was there. Like it was so surreal. And yes, I cried the entire time I was there because I was like, I don't know what I've done to deserve this, but I'm so freaking grateful. And I wouldn't, I want to say that that's probably going to be one of the biggest things that shifted my wrestling career because my mindset was like, you know, I kept getting told, oh, you didn't grow up watching wrestling. You're just a pretty girl that can't, you know, all these hate comments that people get in their journey. And I was like, dude, I bust my butt 24-7.

42:24TJ:I'm trying to get this thing. I'm really, really trying. And then I started believing in myself the more that I did it. But it wasn't until that moment that I was just like, you know, Bayley told me, she's like, there's a reason I picked you. There's a reason that you're here. You know, there's a reason that you're doing all these things. And yeah, did the power slam help put me out there and get eyes on me? And yes, did the picture do that same thing? But I kept the momentum going by putting the hard work in and continue to show up to training and continue going to the gym. Even when I haven't gone to a trustee, there's times that I don't.

42:55TJ:Oh, shit. Like, oh, my God. I'm like, there's times I don't want to be there. I promise. So, you know, but it was like the biggest thing. It's just like it instilled this like belief in myself that then once my mindset shifted after that it's like do like my only limit is me at this point like i have full control of what happens from now on because all the tools are there i just gotta use them and for people who

43:18Nikki Blackheart:don't know just always like to have people caught up loadstone was something because you're a professional teacher yeah well you know this is what i do for a living bailey had a camp for women

43:27TJ:and was it in orlando yes okay it was a seven yeah like a three-day seminar seminar right where she put the call out right shay you are an independent female wrestler email me we're

43:40Nikki Blackheart:going to put something together i don't think anything like that had ever existed before i'm sure she got thousands of hundreds you know thousands of women applying for this how many women were selected 22 22 so she pared down to 22 i know we sent emails in with your name or tweets in with your name a few times from the no contest site so 22 women she you guys just had to take care of your transportation there right right and then she put you guys up and what an airbnb took care of transportation and everything else while you guys trained and learned yeah we had

44:15TJ:shuttles her biggest thing is like i don't want you guys to worry about anything while you're here um i know that you mentioned that live morgan actually paid for meal prep which was amazing You know, the fridge was always full. Like we all we had to do was just like whatever little things we needed and whatever else we wanted to get. We went from there. But she made sure that we didn't have to worry about anything while we were there. We can just focus on learning and, you know, just being present.

44:42Nikki Blackheart:And they're doing another one, April 16th, Vegas during WrestleMania week. So 22 women come together from all over. I guess the world, right?

44:56TJ:Germany, UK, we had girls, you know, local from Orlando in South Florida. You know, we had girls from all over the place, really. Washington, I mean, all over.

45:08Nikki Blackheart:And so you guys came together, you know, you learned, you traded secrets, you helped each other, you boosted each other up. And I think that's really, really dope because a lot of times, you know, sometimes they'll say women tear each other down. Right. But yeah, this case is definitely due to, but that's kind of just a weird thing that they happen to say. Right. Yeah. But in this case, it was nothing but it just seemed like these women got together and just uplifted each other and tried to make everyone better. And that is super dope.

45:42O'Shea:Yeah. You remember we I don't know if you know this, Nikki, but we interviewed John Cena. You know, we kind of important. Yeah, it kind of blew up a little bit. Yeah, you know, a little bit. Oh, you know. But, yeah, so when we interviewed John, he was talking about how, we were talking about how, like, you always want to speak up for yourself. But a saying that I had told him that my father taught me was that the squeaky wheel gets the oil. And he talked about how that can be predatory sometimes. You know, like sometimes people can use that to kind of get over on others, stab people in the back and like, you know, climb that ladder.

46:24O'Shea:And, you know, he just always did everything to avoid that. So for you to speak about everyone there being aware of that and choosing to kind of be one band, one sound, you know, like everybody wanting to be there to just have a healthy environment is great. it's amazing to hear for the growth of the business and especially women in wrestling when John Cena comes in for what Bailey told us was 8 hours what is that like we asked him for 1 hour he gave us 2.5 and we were like this is the greatest day ever we did a 2.5 interview he probably

47:03Nikki Blackheart:stayed for closer to like 3, 3.5 hours chopping it up with us

47:09O'Shea:sign everything to pictures with everybody had about 98 pieces of merch for him to sign and he signed hyperbole for the internet but what's that like to have him give you that that time yeah

47:23TJ:yeah i mean he is very giving and i feel like i i want to like touch on this very briefly before i get like you know any heat or anything like that but i know that i take my time and i'm always like try my best to thank fans and you know engage with them on social media because people forget that at the end of the day they are who put gives us you know a job like if you guys don't acknowledge that they exist it's like what are you doing it for and I think that that's something that has helped him a ton also is that he's not just like that with fans he's also like that with other talent especially people coming up and you know all that he just like spent so much time and giving his time because at the end of the day like you know it's all of our jobs to entertain whatever that looks like but I'll leave it there I'm just saying like you know giving people attention is very very important um and yeah I think like you know at the end he was just like oh I thought I was gonna come in here and talk for like 30 minutes and instead you know um it was like he came in he watched all our matches because we have practice matches and And he took notes and, you know, he was like talking to us after the matches.

48:34TJ:And then he's like, oh, yeah, I took notes. And then I was just like, oh, do you mind if, you know, we just take pictures of the notes just so that we know. And then he's like, I'll do you one better. I'll get in the ring with each of you and then I'll break down all the notes that I took for you. Whoa.

48:51Nikki Blackheart:Bro, what a God. Damn it, John.

48:54TJ:So 30 minutes turned into eight hours, literally.

48:57Nikki Blackheart:You got to wrestle John Cena, essentially.

49:00TJ:No, not wrestle him. But I mean, I will say he was getting in the ring with people and he's very visual. So whenever he was giving examples, like he's like, oh, yeah, and then you get down on the knee and he's like, like showing you what what he means. He's not just like telling you what to do. He's just like showing you. And he's like, you know, when you're doing this and that, and I'm not going to get too much into the details because I don't know what I'm supposed to say or not. but um you know he he just like took all the examples and we're giving us the examples and breaking things down and telling us why you're doing things and you know the things that I learned there it's like you can't pay any seminars to learn now you can't you know go anywhere and learn those things it's just like one of those things you just had to be there you just had to be in the room I mean and this is a week before he's retiring like you know what I mean this is the week before he retires that he's spending so much time giving back.

49:49TJ:And for me, that was insane. Like, yes, I respected him. And I mean, he's freaking John Cena, but after that, it was just like, dang, like you didn't have to do that. And he took the time to do that for us. That's insane.

50:01Nikki Blackheart:I kind of feel the same way. I always respected the grind and hustle, right? Because you're going to stay on top that long. No other wrestlers ever had a run on top as long as John. So you got to respect that whether you were, let's go seeing the scene of sucks. But after sitting here with him for the amount of time that we did and just listening and seeing how he goes about his business, it's just the dude's just so professional. Like, and he just gets it. Like, for instance, our producer, Don Bowie, his daughter painted John a little picture. And it was so amazing to watch because she hands it to him and he looks at it and he's like, I'm going to take this.

50:41Nikki Blackheart:But you have to do a favor for me. she's like what and he's like you have to take a picture with me and she's like and i was like this dude just he gets it man damn it he gets he just gets it you know like it was true it was an eye-opener to have that talk with him and see how he views things and i'm nicky i was a john

51:03O'Shea:cena hater all right i was a hater and he told him this too but yeah i was real you know like I get it. We got the interview. Yeah. Yeah. He was a scene of sucks guy. Yeah, man. Cause I was just a big, I was a fan of the rock. Like the rock was my guy. And I'm like, there's obviously letting this dude just come in and just like, you know, he's the guy.

51:24Nikki Blackheart:Oh, he said, that's why he wanted to talk to us too. You made that, that speech. Yeah.

51:28O'Shea:Cause like I, I, when John retired, I thought, yeah, we could have just a recap episode, but I wanted to thank him, you know, as you know, from fans or just from me, just like from no contest, you know, that was the important thing is that we give John a gift. And so I thought of a little six minute monologue, you know, just to kind of to rich eyes in it a little bit, you know, Scott Van Pelt, like Stuart Scott a little bit. And we channel all those people here. Yeah. Yeah. And, and, and it got to him, it got to him. He loved it. He sent it to his family, and he wanted to do our show after that.

52:13O'Shea:John Cena asked us to come on. Yeah, exactly. We kind of big shit.

52:17Nikki Blackheart:We didn't have to go. John Cena goes, I want to sit with them.

52:20O'Shea:Exactly. Come on. So I wasn't a fan, but I respected him. Seeing him, talking to him, and just seeing what type of man he is, he is beyond what is advertised. And I can't stress this to people enough. The dude is a machine. He truly is special. The prototype. The prototype, TJ. That's why you're the man, bro. So you got to do the Lodestone thing. That experience. Priceless. Man, working with John. Talk to us if you can. If you can. Just me. You know, that's just, what's it like to go to a WWE tryout?

53:08TJ:Well, the rumors are true. It's a lot of work. Yes. You have to be ready for it. You have to, you have to be ready for it. And I will say I had three weeks to really prepare, but honestly, because I was just like on that mindset already, especially after Lodestone, like I saw how intensely we went. I mean, we were there for hours. We ended up, you know, the first day we were there with Ivy and her husband and they ran us through a CrossFit workout. And then, you know, we just changed and got in the ring right after that for hours. And that hard work is a little glimpse of what to expect, not only in the tryout, but the training that you would get, you know, when you're preparing to be in the PC.

53:52TJ:So after seeing that, I was just like, okay, you know, there's a lot more that I should be doing and could be doing. So if I'm being honest, I just started really preparing from there. But truly getting in the ring and doing that type of cardio, probably three weeks in advance. But yeah, it's a lot of cardio. There's a lot of in-ring cardio promos. I mean, your promos have to be on point too. And then for people that were experienced, because they divided us into two sections. So there's the independent talent to have experience in wrestling. And then we had athletes that never stepped in the ring before.

54:26TJ:So we got separated into groups. the ones that had experience we did practice matches um and then you know the athletes are learning their rules or bumps and all that good stuff so i will say the biggest thing is just again be ready because if you get that call and let's say they're like oh yeah you know you get to try out next week a week is not enough time to get that you know cardio going i don't think three weeks was, but because I had already been in that mindset and working towards it, it wasn't, was it very difficult? Yes. But I was still hanging. So that made me feel really good. Because if you would have asked me this like last year, I don't know how, you know, we would have been huffing and puffing a little bit more last year.

55:14Nikki Blackheart:So, you know, Nick, my, my philosophy is I stay ready. So I don't have to get ready. And it seems like you were staying ready. Also shout Shout out to Ivy Now, man. We picked her up a few weeks ago, and she started following us. Remember, I texted her. I'm like, Ivy Now just started following us. You know, big win for her. You know Ivy Now did something just off the convo a little bit, but she did something the other day on Monday that Rhea Ripley's never done, and that's pin EO. But anyway, just wanted to put that out.

55:45O'Shea:There you go, stirring the pot. She focused right now. And you're going to bring up that she's never beaten EO again. I'm just saying, bro. But yeah, I know that tryout was not fun. She smiled one time. It had to be. So that had to be some tough work. I was smiling the whole time.

56:05TJ:I will say that. I was smiling the whole time. Are you tired? I'm not tired. I don't get tired. What are you talking about? Tired me? I don't know that word. Like, what? You're crazy.

56:16Nikki Blackheart:To go back before the tryout, some of the people, some of the women that you got to work with at the camp at Loudstone was there was Rhea was there, right? And Bianca. Charlotte Flair, I know that she was there. How was it like getting to meet? I'm assuming maybe you've never met any of them before?

56:35TJ:I've met Rhea before very briefly because I ended up doing it was like a commercial for the 2K25 video game. I got casted just to if you look at the trailer, I'm like in the I'm pushing the cart in like the background. I got to meet her and, you know, but to actually talk to them, this was like the very first time where I got to really, really talk to them. I got to talk to Rhea. I mean, you guys know, I, I love her. I get a lot of my inspiration from her, but I also get a lot of my inspiration from Bianca and I got to talk to her too. And there's something that she said that stuck with me a lot.

57:14TJ:And because I relate to it because she didn't grow up watching wrestling either. And it was one of those things where it's like, it's like meeting the love of your life. Like you know, all the qualities that you're looking for in somebody, you know, you, you know what you want, but it's not till you meet them that you realize that that's the love of your life. And that for me was wrestling too. That's something that stuck with me. Cause I'm like, yes, same, same. Like, I didn't know, I didn't know this man, but here I am head over heels. Like, you know what I mean? So that's kind of like the same, the same energy that, that, you know, she was portraying there and then, you know, Charlotte Flair, freaking amazing human being.

57:51TJ:I mean, took the time. She actually came to the house while we were having breakfast and talked to us and did the workout with us too. So that was really fun. And she had to go because, you know, they're still working during this entire thing. So she had to catch a flight right after, but still spend time with us, give us a lot of perspective of how it is being a woman in the business too and in her time because obviously you know they all got into it at a time where women's wrestling was just coming up like it was just getting put on the map as other than you know the the typical stuff that you see on tv where it's like that was women's wrestling back in the day but they've gotten to experience what it's like to be the new generation of women's wrestling where it's actually respected where people are starting to look like you know there's a lot of women that are doing things very, very well compared to what we're used to.

58:46TJ:So there's more eyes being set on women's wrestling. So it was really cool to see their experience, honestly. Roxanne got in the ring there with us too. Elena Black was present. Maxine was there also. She got in the ring with us. So, I mean, and then obviously Lyra. I mean, Lyra was there at the workout. Her coach Katie was there too. so you know they got to teach us a lot of stuff and yeah i mean just like solid solid group of women that were there that i'm like there's so much to learn like there's just so much to learn and then of course we get the freaking legend to top it all off and and show us her you know routine that she usually does in the dungeon natty was there and you know nat yeah um and it was just awesome to hear her talk about her experiences um i ended up going to the dungeon two weeks ago too so i got to get in there um and i'm going to be seeing her next week so just just a lot of amazing information i could talk forever oh she got you into the dungeon she got a million dollars

59:51Nikki Blackheart:a game for free 99 right here is what it sounds like so much it was like i am it's in the best

59:59TJ:way possible of course i'm just like i wish there's so much like digesting that it took me like a couple of days to be like What the F is my life like? What is my life like? Like, is this, like, happening right now? This is crazy.

1:00:12Nikki Blackheart:So did you go to the dungeon in the Hart House, that dungeon? Or is there another, like, she has her own dungeon, though, right? She has her. Yeah, yeah.

1:00:19TJ:No, the one in, yeah, the 2.0. I was thinking they went up to Stu's basement.

1:00:24Nikki Blackheart:That's crazy. No, no, no.

1:00:27TJ:The modern, modern dungeon. Yeah, you always see the one in Florida.

1:00:30Nikki Blackheart:Instagram pictures of people training there. and there's always people from various organizations and companies and looking like they're just having the best time in the world. Dude, Lodestone, bro, where's the show? Right?

1:00:41O'Shea:Can we produce a Lodestone reality show? We gotta talk to Bailey because we... We just spoke to Bailey for WWE 2K. Shout out to 2K. I was watching.

1:00:57TJ:I did see it.

1:01:00O'Shea:That's family. like that no contest but yeah we're part of the black card army you know oh also shout out 2k because my code worked tj oh did it yeah you know i got the game for free but uh they're gonna love that in the comments but so we were talking to bailey and yeah we would definitely try to like we would love to try to figure out something i don't know if it'll be able to happen this year but i mean i'd be down like something to help push lodestone and just everything that's happening You had a great idea about Lodestone. Oh, yeah. Lodestone needs to be in the game, 2K. I don't care what camera I got to look at, but there needs to be something for the female career mode.

1:01:45O'Shea:Yeah, for the female superstar that you get to create, she should definitely have to go through Lodestone in order to build her stats up. Just throwing it out there another time, another time, 2K.

1:01:58TJ:That's awesome. That'd be so cool.

1:02:01O'Shea:We definitely want to support Lodestone and everything that's going on, but we also want to support what you got going on. So what's happening right now in your wrestling world, Nikki Blackheart?

1:02:13Nikki Blackheart:Or even your personal life. You get a new car, what's going on? It's like, you know, you got a cat. Like, what's up with you?

1:02:21TJ:I'm not a person. It's like there's like this weird meme where it's like his head's about to explode and it's like, oh, this is me when I get you a present. like I just can't shut up it's been like really hard to keep allotted because there's a lot I can't say yet but just know that there's a lot of amazing things coming up soon you know obviously God willing I'm super Jesus fan but a lot of amazing things are going to be happening here soon a lot of it has been the same stuff like I said you know the tryout happened I've been still wrestling like i said i just wrestled the who rounds the world three um it was myself and priscilla kelly which i got to learn so so much from her amazing wrestler and like i said athena she's she's such a gem to the to the business and another powerful woman that just wants to make sure that you know women's wrestling is put on the map that it's you know highlighted um because she does so much for women too um but yeah i mean like i said i've been blessed to be around all these women and all these amazing wrestlers and just like learning so much from them so right now what i'm looking forward to is just utilizing all those things that i learned and just applying them moving forward so that's that's all i can do as a right now and say we're trying to get you in no trouble yeah fingers crossed you know we're we're rooting for you

1:03:45O'Shea:obviously you know our our friends at uh ccw uh were the ones who who linked us up so we you know we are still fully supporting season. And you know, you're still running things over there, but I mean, like we're leaving today and entering a world of Mickey mouse,

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1:05:03Nikki Blackheart:She's one of the things that know contest always. Yeah, right. You know, one of the things I happened to do, we were in Indianapolis for the show that I work on, The Rich Eisen Show, two weeks ago. I got a chance to talk to the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys, Brian Schottenheimer, my favorite team. I wanted to get to know him on kind of like a personal level. I want to ask him about offense or defense. I want to talk to him like man to man and get to know him. And the question I asked him actually made him tear up. And it was like a moment. I'm not trying to do that to you here necessarily, but there was a pretty amazing tweet that you point out that you put after, you know, all of your travels.

1:05:42Nikki Blackheart:And I think we, we have it here. And man, this was just an amazing, amazing tweet that you put out. Can you just share what was going through your heart in your head in that moment?

1:05:54TJ:Oh, my God. Guys, I've been crying the last freaking week. I can't do this right now. I just put these lashes on. All right. Where do I start? I mean, you mentioned CCW. You'll never forget, obviously, your first championship. And obviously, they've given me so many opportunities and a platform for me to develop and learn so much. But what stood out to me is that when I got the championship, it was, and you can see it there with the dates, obviously, it was on my mom's anniversary of her passing. It was June 14th. So obviously that was a big thing because I'm a big symbols person. Maybe they don't exist, but they keep me sane because I'm like, oh, my God, you know, you saw what happened.

1:06:39TJ:It's a sign. But it was one of those things that I'll never forget it because of how it happened and the significance behind it. But when I decided to go there, I mean, I did it too. When I graduated college, I took my college degree, all my, you know, all the strings are called ropes. I don't know. Like all the things that you put around your neck when you graduate, I brought the ball to, to the gravestone. It was just one of those things where it's like, yes, I know that I have an angel watching every, every step of the way, but it was, I needed to do something tangible. And I was just like, Hey, mom, look, this is what I'm doing.

1:07:20TJ:So I decided to, you know, go there and bring it there and just like, not only pray for gratitude and, you know, being able to do this safely and healthily and, you know, being able to do so much and experience so many things that some people dream about doing and never get to do. And I'm obviously very, very grateful for everything. but it was also like a okay this is what I got going on and I'm gonna need your guidance every step of the way because there's a lot of amazing things that I wish I could you know pick up the phone and and call her and I'm not able to so for me it was one of those things where it's like let me just the best that I can do is just like feel the closest to her and and just again say thank you and also please help guide me through whatever I have going on and make sure that I achieve everything that I've set my mind to moving forward.

1:08:13Nikki Blackheart:She got you. I'm sure of that. Absolutely.

1:08:17TJ:Guys, I can't do this right now.

1:08:19O'Shea:I'm like, TJ, man. It's just because he goes, he gets in his Barbara Walters mode and like, there's no way to stop him after that. I'm sorry.

1:08:29TJ:I got through it.

1:08:31O'Shea:I got through it. But, you know, TJ, TJ, he's got, his tie to wrestling is through your grand phone correct yeah and um you know my uh my man andrew rest in peace uh was a a kid i've known since he was four years old and he passed away at 19 last year when we were like first going with the show really yeah that was rough for you yeah and um yeah so you know wrestling we all have our people that we you know we are our angels that we have these moments with and on the John Cena thing. Like, man, I can only imagine what Andrew would have did if he would have saw that. I got to interview Cena. He saw it, though, dog.

1:09:14O'Shea:Yeah, so it's, we feel you. We feel you 100%, or your mom is watching. And no matter what happens, you know, anything can go any type of way. But, you know, we're rooting for you. Absolutely. We know that your mom 100 % is rooting for you as well. So either way, you'll have our support too over here, man. I mean, she already knows.

1:09:39Nikki Blackheart:I think she already. But a lot of times that I've tagged her on Instagram posts, I'm pretty sure she might even be sick of seeing us on all of her mentions. I don't know. It's like, am I doing too much? Support and roles. Just support. Yeah, man.

1:09:56TJ:No, I'm a very intense human being. Like, I'm very, I'm going to say I'm like, I don't want to use the word clingy, but I'm like, I just always want to know what people are like, you know, they're doing well and they're cause like this life is hard, man. You know, like everything, life is like so hard. So it's like, if we can just be good people and just, you know, you never know what someone's going through and you never know what your acts of kindness can do to change somebody's world. So there's a lot of crappy stuff that happens, but if you can continue encouraging people and, you know, sharing positivity and letting them know that like, Hey, like, you might not think of me 24 7 but here and there check in and be like i'm still here it's a good feeling to know that no matter what you're doing in life you're gonna have people that are supporting you and and pushing you that are in your corner no matter what so i don't i'm never discouraging support because at the end of the day it just takes one thing sometimes to change the entire course of your day entire course of your life and you just never know what people are going through

1:10:57O'Shea:So that would be, you know, because you you are a unique one of our, you know, most unique guests because you are, you know, we interviewed you during fairly new, you know, fairly new into your career. And now you've got a bit of a rocket on your back. You know, like you you are a name that rings bells out here. No pun intended, TJ, but relax. and um i saw him pointing i'm like so i would say what is some advice you can give a a young girl watching this right now and uh maybe something that has been the hardest thing for you to kind of maybe adjust to that people might not realize in this this wrestling life that you've taking on now and now you're traveling more and and having to uh going to different schools being taught by legends is there any new challenges mentally physically that you wish you would

1:12:04TJ:have knew about when you started it sounds so cheesy and it's because it is it's like so corny but it's like your belief in yourself i'm telling you because it's there's so many people especially people get threatened by success and it's insane what people do when, when they're threatened, they're going to say things about you. They're going to, you know, go around and, and create these lies just because it's like, Oh, I'm not there. So let me make sure that I changed the perspective of how other people see them, you know, and it's such a crazy thing. I'm like, ew, like last time to do that. But anyways, they do clearly.

1:12:42So you're going to encounter

1:12:46TJ:many naysayers, you're going to encounter a lot of negativity, especially, and again, I don't want to make this like a gender thing, but like as women, you did say like women have this tendency wanting to tear other females down. And my advice, and this is crazy because like, I just gave this advice to this little girl at the show this past weekend. And it's just like, you need to believe in yourself and know that you're doing everything possible to be successful. I mean, you're taking a step in an industry where the success rate, I'll be honest with you, is not that high in entertainment. It's not.

1:13:19TJ:It's very competitive. There's so many moving parts at the same time. But if you don't have your solid foundation of your self-belief, your morals, the things that you believe in, how you carry yourself, how you express yourself, if you don't have those things solid, then you're pretty much going to crumble pretty quickly. So everything starts from the inside out. And if you don't believe in yourself, no one will. There's going to be a lot of people in life that are going to think that you can't. You can't be the number one person to think that. So for me, it was just like the second that I realized that I'm putting in the work, I'm showing up every single day.

1:13:56TJ:I'm the one taking all these bombs. I'm the one going to the gym. And I'm freaking hungry, tired, like sore. you know i'm still showing up and i'm still you know making sure i respond to comments and and still active on social media and making sure my bookings make sense and you know i'm just like being pulled in a million directions but i'm not able to do those things if i don't believe that i'm capable of doing it and for the longest time i didn't think i was capable of doing it i'm like okay you know you didn't grow up watching wrestling so maybe you don't deserve this or you know just like so many different things but when you block out the noise and you just put those blinders on and the only direction that you're going for is forward, then I promise you things are going to pick up pretty quickly because when you don't have any distractions, you get things done a lot faster.

1:14:44TJ:So believe in yourself, find a core group of people that love you, that support you, that, you know, you can talk to them. They don't have to be other wrestlers. They can be, you know, whether that's a significant other, friends and other verticals or family members just find a solid group of people to remind you on those days when you are down because you're going to have them it's life you're going to have them in everything you're going to have down times where you're like it's like dude i suck like what am i doing you know um you're going to have those days but one you have to remember your why why you started because your why has to be stronger than all the excuses that you're going to set yourself and then find those people that are going to be like you know slap you a little bit and be like wake up like you're doing that thing stay the course and don't give up before the miracle because you could be you know running fast you stop and then you never reach breakthrough because you decided to quit before you actually made it happen so no that was long before the miracle yeah don't give up before

1:15:40O'Shea:the miracle yeah listen i feel you because there's tj i've told you this but every single time i've gotten a role or been on set or been in my trailer, there's a moment where I'm looking at the sides and I'm looking at my lines for the day for the first time and I think fuck. Like, oh my god. They're gonna realize they picked the wrong guy. How is this my job? What am I doing? Can I even do this? Like, it is the worst until you get your feet wet. Until you get out there and like get hit for the first time you know like then you start to like realize oh yeah i can do this i you know i'm in my bag i just uh i get in my own way sometimes so that's it happens you know but don't stop for

1:16:26Nikki Blackheart:the miracle bro you can't come on dog and what you said about finding that core group i find that to be so true because you know a lot of times people i'll just use los angeles as an example people like oh la's fake or the la's this that and the third but the thing is right if you want it it's here but you do have to find yourself a tribe you got to find yourself a village of people that will hold you accountable that will hold you up and then that you know you can be honest with them and they can be honest with you and if you you have that then this is the best place in the world if you ask if you ask me but if you're trying to do it alone just like anything else

1:17:05TJ:of course it's going to be tough for you emphasis on the accountability because accountability can look in like so many different ways. And I know, you know, sometimes I, I kind of really gets a little bit of resistance because I'm like, Oh, I don't want to hear that. I don't want to hear that. I'm not doing what I need to do, but you know, but you have, you know, like I have my coach that for the longest time, I kind of believe it was really hard on me. Um, but at the end of the day, looking back, you know, there's a reason that he was so hard on me and that's because he saw more in me than I did in myself at that time.

1:17:40TJ:So he wanted to like bring that out. And I resisted it so much as I'm like, he freaking hates me. He hates me. We're talking gang grill. That's my, oh yeah. He hates me. Like you just, there's no way he doesn't freaking hate me. You know what I mean? Like just because of how tough he was on me, but like looking back, you can't survive in a world like that if you don't have thick skin. And looking back now, it's like a lot of the things that he was saying I'm starting to see and I'm like ah you know it makes sense why he was so tough on me um and yeah accountability looks so different sometimes you don't want to hear it but it is what you need to hear and something that I realized is like when someone's taking the time to tell you something it's because they care about you and it's not because they like you know want to bring you down or I mean yeah criticism looks some some are constructive some are just like straight up hate I'll be honest with you but when it's constructive of criticism where it's like, hey, this is what you're doing wrong.

1:18:35TJ:This is what you should do, you know, to make it better. That means that that person cares about you and they just actually want to see you succeed. And the biggest way to show someone respect is just like actually applying what they're telling you because there's a reason they're telling you. And, you know, there's people that have been through it or have been where you want to go and they've done it and they've been successful at it. There's a reason that they're taking the time to tell you those things. Listen, you're no better than anybody else. You're doing life for the first time now. So don't resist what people are trying to tell you because there's a reason why they're doing that.

1:19:06TJ:Never have an ego because everything you have can be taken overnight and you will have nothing to show for it. See, I hear

1:19:16O'Shea:especially it's so crazy, Nikki, because I hear my podcast partner talk about having a tribe and having people have your back and everything. But if I tell TJ, love you, bro. Nikki Blackheart

1:19:34Nikki Blackheart:what I wanted to talk to you about was

1:19:38TJ:am I a mediator right now? you're so toxic I'm listening

1:19:41O'Shea:it is crazy you were talking and like the fans like y 'all can look back on the show you started saying that bro when I tell you like I tried to rub my face I tried to do everything I could not to break into your little speech you full of shit how good what listen man how can you say that listen this dude has been been my podcast partner for almost a year and a half now now one time have i gotten on i love you too not even on my birthday

1:20:16TJ:oh and see that you've made her sad again for a big moment watch she's just like saving it

1:20:21Nikki Blackheart:yeah that's what i'm doing that's exactly what i'm doing yeah man yeah totally look sometimes you don't always have to say those

1:20:30TJ:these three words

1:20:31Nikki Blackheart:nobody sings it you can show it your actions right because sometimes words are hollow right you know you can just sure you can just say it you know you can just say oh blah blah blah but to me I'd rather the action you know what I'm saying Nick like you show the love you know because you're saying you saying it what's that mean it don't mean nothing

1:20:57O'Shea:You see how my podcast partner was just like, you know, it's not about, you know, the words is hollow. It's all about the action. Actions speak louder than words. But let that shit be Roman Reigns not saying I'm sorry. And then all of a sudden now the actions don't matter, right? The words is what's important, right? It came right around back, bro. It ain't a word. It came right around back.

1:21:20Nikki Blackheart:It is a word.

1:21:21O'Shea:Unbelievable. I can't believe you this episode. Well, say it one more time and see what happens.

1:21:25Nikki Blackheart:Say it. Yeet. He doesn't want me to say it. Sorry, Nikki, you had to see that. We're fighting in front of the company. She's not company. Like, Dom was like, don't fight in front of the company. Nikki knows where the house keeps...

1:21:38TJ:I'm like that one cousin. I'm sitting in the background. She knows when we keep... And I'm just like, it's not my business, but I'm here for it. Like, I'm listening.

1:21:49Nikki Blackheart:She knows when we keep the spare key. She ain't company no more. You know what I mean? She got a spare room upstairs, so... Listen, do you have anything else to ask? I have so much to ask, right? But what I want to ask, I won't, because I don't even want to put you in a position where you might let something slip out that you're not supposed to. We don't want to know. But here's what I know. Can I just tell you what I know for a fact without being told? She had a tryout. There ain't no way they ain't signing her.

1:22:19O'Shea:Oh, my God, TJ. There's no way. You got to knock on wood. What's the matter with you, dog? I'm not knocking on wood. There's no way.

1:22:28Nikki Blackheart:There is no way. Bro, you're tripping, bro.

1:22:30O'Shea:Don't mess with the sports gods, bro.

1:22:32Nikki Blackheart:I'm putting it out there to the universe, man. I think this is what you want. So I say a prayer for you, and I hope you get it. And I'm like, look, if you guys were smart, you wouldn't let this one get away. That's all I'm saying.

1:22:45O'Shea:Smart, bro. We yell at WWE every week. That's a good point. Don't do this, dog.

1:22:50Nikki Blackheart:That's a good point.

1:22:51O'Shea:But, Nikki, man, you are welcome here anytime, anytime you want. Yeah, anytime. Like, you got a match, or is there anything that you want to promote from CCW that you got coming up?

1:23:05TJ:I have two matches coming up. CCW, March 21st anniversary in Port St. Lucie at the Mid-Florida Events Center. Doors open at 7, show starts at 8. I will be there defending my title versus Marina Tucker. and then I don't think they've announced the venue yet, but I'll just tell you guys because by the time this comes out, I'll be fine. It'll be tonight.

1:23:24O'Shea:It'll come out tonight. Hold on.

1:23:27TJ:March 28th, Vivo at the Dolphin Mall Vivo show Vice City Slam. I will be there also defending the title hopefully, maybe. I don't know. We'll see how March 21st goes, but depending on the outcome of that, I'll still be wrestling the 28th at Vice City Slam and I will figure out who my opponent is. We'll see. We're not together.

1:23:52Nikki Blackheart:CCW doing an LA show so we can actually see them in action. We will be in Vegas

1:23:58TJ:April 15th. So if you guys are out there for Mania Week, April 15th.

1:24:06Nikki Blackheart:Okay. I will be there. Well, we don't know. We haven't gotten any. We don't know what we're doing. Oh, we're going to be there.

1:24:13TJ:I'm still looking at April and finalizing April. So I can't say anything yet because I don't know what I got going on here.

1:24:22O'Shea:Absolutely. Well, we will be awaiting results everywhere for Nikki Blackheart. And just make sure you don't forget about your boys. Just don't forget about your boys on NCAA.

1:24:33Nikki Blackheart:Because like I said, I foresee, let's put it out there again, I foresee a day one day where she's headlining WrestleMania and then we might want to get an interview. And she may be like, who? Yeah. Who? I don't know.

1:24:46TJ:I don't forget anything. Okay. Nothing leaves my brain.

1:24:53Nikki Blackheart:Well, we wish you the best, obviously. I hope the tryout did go well. And I really do hope that you get what you want and what you deserve. And so I'm looking forward to going on social media soon, hopefully, and reading about the good news that I know is coming for you. Fingers crossed.

1:25:11TJ:We'll see.

1:25:13O'Shea:ladies and gentlemen as always nikki blackheart thank you for your time appreciate you nikki blackheart man just how can you not root for exactly you know uh always been cool um we yeah we really were she really is somebody who was just like a um we're just watching her success happened um couldn't be more proud and uh just want big things for that trial we know how much it means to her uh and pretty much a fair amount of people who choose this profession that's the finish line you know that is like they want to get that try out they want to get passed and uh into the wwe um and we hope the best for always got support from us at ncw you and hopefully we will have a a celebration episode one day right now just gonna keep it

1:26:13Nikki Blackheart:but like but like i said you were trying you're trying to stop me but i'm being dead serious like from what what i've seen of her the personality the work in the ring her overall body and i'm saying body in the sense that you can see how serious she takes this you see the amount of work she puts in to have a happy build like how like i just i i just i don't know man i just can't see any way that they don't take her. But for me...

1:26:38O'Shea:I thought Booker T was going to be Triple H.

1:26:41Nikki Blackheart:All right, you're going to keep giving me... I'm trying to be positive. And you keep bringing it down. But I think for us, she's kind of like... In music, when people find that indie band, right? Before they blow up and you become kind of like, not possessive, but you're kind of like, I knew them before they got the record deal. It's kind of how I feel with her. We, like a lot of people, saw her on Twitter. Like I said earlier, We talked about let's get her on, and now we've been following her. And she just keeps getting better and better in the ring. Her name starts to become more and more well-known.

1:27:15Nikki Blackheart:And it's just super cool that we ran at the bottom floor, I guess, to say, the ground level.

1:27:23O'Shea:I mean, that's the power of the No Contest Wrestling podcast. I don't know. I'm not saying we did it. No, no. We were there. We was there. A little water on the sea.

1:27:34Nikki Blackheart:Hey, a Chia Pet grows in three days. I always say that. Come on, man.

1:27:38O'Shea:What were we talking about before she came in here? Who knows?

1:27:41Nikki Blackheart:Probably something about Roman and Punk and how Christian used to always talk about people's passed away fathers.

1:27:48O'Shea:Oh, AEW. They got... That's right, man. They got something coming up.

1:27:52Nikki Blackheart:They're in town. Yeah.

1:27:53O'Shea:Oh.

1:27:54Nikki Blackheart:Quickly go over that. They were down at Staples. I don't know what the name is, but we calling it. Mama named him Clay. Yeah. I'm going to call him Clay. Right. We calling it Staples. Staples. And this week they got AEW Revolution on Sunday, March 15th. We're going to see MGF versus Hangman. Hangman? Yeah. Page for the men's world title. There's a stipulation I absolutely hate. If Hangman loses, he can never challenge for the title ever again. I don't know why they keep doing this. They fell into this trap with Cody. You're not going to take the belt. Ain't no way. You're not taking the belt off of MJF right now.

1:28:27Nikki Blackheart:There's no way. So what's the point of doing this? I don't know. I don't like it.

1:28:31O'Shea:You know what? I don't know. I don't know if they're not taking the belt off. Hangman. Tony Khan? Crazy. Oh, yeah, right. MJF. I don't. Tony Khan is wild. And he's wild about his Hangman. Like, bro, that Samoa Joe thing, I was shocked. Yeah, that's true. I was shocked, dude. I didn't expect the second run yet. So, like, I don't know.

1:28:51Nikki Blackheart:Isn't that what's great about wrestling, though? When you don't know?

1:28:54O'Shea:Yeah. Dirt sheets.

1:28:56Nikki Blackheart:Right. Sorry, don't yell at us, bro. Chill out, chill out, chill out. We got a women's world title match. Tekla, you know, this is going to be tough for me. This is as tough as me watching Bayley and Asuka on Raw because one thing you know is I was going to be happy and I was going to be mad in the exact same time frame. Tekla against Chris Statlander, two out of three falls for the AEW Women's Championship. Those are two of my favorites there. I'm going to adopt LeVar Ball. Even when I lose, I win. That's how I'm going to feel about this one. We got the Continental Championship match. No time limit.

1:29:31Nikki Blackheart:Jon Moxley against Takeshita. And I know I love Takeshita, but you really love.

1:29:36O'Shea:Yeah, and I hated how that last one ended. That last fight between him and Moxley. I was like, come on, man. But now you have it with no time limit. Yeah, because it was a time limit. It has to happen. Somebody got loose.

1:29:50Nikki Blackheart:All right, I'm tired of this. So shout out to the Alpha, man. We got a world tag team title match, FTR, against the Young Bucks, a trios championship match. The Don Callis family, I think you and I are the only two people not in the Don Callis family against Mystico and Jet Speed. That'll be a fun one. Our favorite, Toni Storm, is going against Marina Shafir. Everyone's banned from ringside. No Death Riders, no Orange Cassidy. We'll see what's going down, but you know how we feel about it. Who needs that? Who needs to win? I mean obviously Marina needs the win

1:30:28O'Shea:but I ain't never picking against timeless Tony's I know but like Marina need that win like bad

1:30:36Nikki Blackheart:character wise you gotta give it up to her man she went from being that one promo you know me people mocked her to now working with the Death Riders everything Marina's put in the work man she's just improved so much I remember she used to work in a coffee shop in Venice Beach, dog. And now look at her going up against Tony Storm. And we got the national championship, 21-man Blackjack Battle Royal. Ricochet, your bald brother, against everybody. What's great about these matches is you never know who's coming up next in this. It's going to be somebody new who's going to pop up on the scene. You know, I see Ricochet holding on to the belt, you know, even though he sometimes clowns us on Twitter.

1:31:18O'Shea:Yeah, but he had my back on Twitter one day. He did. I didn't see recently because nobody has my back right now. But, yeah, man. So, Rick O'Shea, that's my boy.

1:31:31Nikki Blackheart:21-man Blackjack Battle Roy. I think he's going to return, but that is going to be fun. I got to make it to stables. Yes.

1:31:38O'Shea:All right, brother Shea. I mean, honestly, I might need you to hit up Colby. For? Because I might need a mask and a black hoodie to go to that. that you're doing. Well, you know he got a whole chunk full of them. Yeah, I know, man. You know, I don't know how they feel about me in there. But it might be interesting to watch. Well, people love Shea. People tend to like you. I just don't know who don't love Shea. That's a good point. And right now, I am the main character of Twitter. That's because you're brought upon yourself. You know, I will be nice again, everybody. I will just continue to be the enemy of NBA Twitter.

1:32:17O'Shea:How about that?

1:32:17Nikki Blackheart:Let's even get into that. Yeah, man. Speaking of, though, we were talking about the man in the black mask. That just made me think we didn't talk about this. Judgment Day, kind of the ranks got slightly smaller this week as we kind of knew it was coming. They excommunicated Finn Balor from the group. Issued him a critical beatdown. J.D., how dare you? Right. You're Irish brother. Your Irish brother. That's crazy. Hey, Finn, one thing you got to know, it's always your own people. It's always your own people. Not only the people in your group, but your countrymen. Yeah, bro. Liv and Raquel, putting the boots to him.

1:33:04O'Shea:Yeah. I was like, hold on, the ladies? Yeah.

1:33:07Nikki Blackheart:So you know where this is going. Ed too, Raquel? We're getting right now for WrestleMania, what we know so far for WrestleMania 42. Talk to me if you don't walk with me. we got the world heavyweight title match which we talked about between punk and roman we got the undisputed wwe championship against oh we didn't even talk about how remember last week i said i'm gonna be mad oh my god i'm gonna be mad if drew loses and now for two reasons one because we're drew mcintyre stands here at no contest and to the fact that cody rhodes against randy orton just made way too much sense for it not to happen.

1:33:45Nikki Blackheart:We can't have another instance like the Rock and Roman where we let it go by because time ain't promised. You had to do it. So we had to get Cody against Randy, even though it came at the expense of Drew McIntyre, which half of me is angry about, but the other half goes, I get it. It makes sense. It's best for business. Cody against Randy for the championship. We got the Women's World Championship match so far, Stephanie Bacare against Liv Morgan. I feel like I haven't seen the devil's kiss in like three months. I don't know what's going on, but we're going to see it probably night one of WrestleMania.

1:34:20Nikki Blackheart:And we have the WWE Women's Championship, Jade Cargill against Rhea Ripley. Things seem like they're getting real personal there. Is it the work? Is it the shoot? I don't know. I don't care. I'm just looking forward to it regardless. And that's what we have, I think, on for sure. You got to think Dom and Finn. Dom and Finn is coming. I have to assume, I'm waiting for it, we're probably going to get Asuka and Kyrie for as sad as that's going to make it. You know I love Asuka, but she's been tripping on Kyrie lately, and Kyrie's doing some incredible work. She's just great. Who knows, we might get Io and Julia for the U.S.

1:34:59Nikki Blackheart:title. There's a lot of things that can happen, but we do know for right now those championship matches are going on.

1:35:05O'Shea:And let's not forget, Brock Lesnar's still looking for a WrestleMania opponent.

1:35:09Nikki Blackheart:Now, here's what I read. The word is that Brock and Paul are saying that Brock shouldn't lose again until he retires. Well, right then and there, we can't have an Obafemi against Brock match because we can't have Oba losing.

1:35:22O'Shea:Listen, for as long as I've known them, Paul and Brock have never thought Brock Lesnar should lose. So, like, this isn't news. It came out. Yeah, dog. So, like, I don't know. I don't know what to do with that, but I do want to point out something. Because in a time where we felt like it didn't feel like the road to WrestleMania, and some people are feeling some type of way about the matches happening as quickly as they're being put together, but even still, with the people being upset about Drew, for you to get Cody versus Randy, and then Roman versus Punk. Two matches that seem like they are night and day to each other, but they're mirroring one another.

1:36:21O'Shea:You have the guy who was the man and the young dude that he brought in. Now the young dude is on top and wanting to do his thing. And Punk is the same thing with Roman and the Shield. So now you have these two matches that are a bit of a mirror image of each other, but are getting delivered in different ways. And it's just very interesting to see for night one and night two. I still think that, I mean, you helped, but I still think it's proper for Roman and Punk to be on night two, even though you kind of nudged that. Listen, I did what I had to do. I did what I had to do. You kind of nudged it.

1:37:01O'Shea:What do you want me to do? But, yeah, I just wanted to point out that mirror image. I like where things are headed. I'm excited to see where they're going. But can you tell the people where to find us?

1:37:11Nikki Blackheart:Yeah, well, if you're looking for us, what you got to do is you go anywhere you listen and take your podcasts in. We're ESPN, Spotify, Apple. You'll find us there. On Twitter, we're at There's No Contest. On Instagram, No Contest Wrestling Podcast. On TikTok, No Contest Wrestling Pod. Of course, you go to YouTube. You type in No Contest Wrestling or you go to the Rich Eisen Show YouTube page. Over a million subscribers. You look us up. You'll find all of our episodes from episode one to episode 76 with up-and-coming future superstar Nikki Blackheart for the second time. Nikki, two times. Let's go.

1:37:52O'Shea:I'm sorry, everybody. He's not. Is that what y 'all want me to say? I'm sorry. He don't think so. I'm sorry for cussing at y 'all. Now, make sure y 'all have a good day. I'm sorry that y 'all forgetful, all right? That's what I really want to say. I'm sorry that y 'all so forgetful about everything that we watched for four years straight. But I digress. Make sure you have a good day, but not too good, because who the hell do you think you are?

1:38:18Nikki Blackheart:Yeah, right.

1:38:19O'Shea:Bye, Ms. Parker.

1:38:29O'Shea:shot clocks big shots upsets aces tgl playoffs are here first atlanta drive starts their repeat run against los angeles golf club then rory's boston common golf and tigers jupiter links face

1:38:40Nikki Blackheart:off in their playoff debuts who will advance keep up its playoffs tune in tuesday march 17th at 6 30 p.m and 9 p.m only on espn and the espn app