Exclusive interview with WWE NXT Superstar Tony D'Angelo

26 Mar 2026 · 1 h 12 min · 29 chapters

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In short

Tony D’Angelo exclusive interview on No Contest Wrestling Podcast, previewing his NXT Championship Fatal Four-Way at Stand and Deliver (April 4, St. Louis) and discussing his rise, character work, and wrestling background.

Guests

Tony D’Angelo (WWE NXT Superstar; amateur wrestling standout; former NXT North American Champion who ended Oba Femi’s 273-day reign; also claims/mentions being first to win NXT Tag Team Championships, Heritage Cup, and North American Championship). Host guests: O’Shea Jackson Jr., K.A. Petty Guerrero, and T.J. Jefferson (podcast hosts).

Key claims

Tony says he’s thriving on chaos and expects the Fatal Four-Way to be chaotic; he says his “family” gimmick was his idea and came naturally; he describes his reset/hiatus as personal-life related (wife pregnant) rather than injury; he predicts he’ll win the NXT World Championship and become a “Grand Slam” champion.

Notable examples

his amateur credentials (state champ, national champ, high school/college All-American, D1 at University of Buffalo); early WWE training bumps (chokeslam no-sell, headbutt turnbuckle); third NXT match experience involving a WarGames-style situation; he says he beat Oba twice; he cites meeting Triple H/Shawn Michaels and legends like Undertaker, John Cena, and CM Punk.

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Recap of NXT Stand and Deliver Event

1:10 to 2:41

Discussion on the upcoming NXT Stand and Deliver event and its significance.

“Yeah, I had to sneak off into the office because my little nephew don't care about me recording, don't care about me, my show, or any of my success.”

Predictions About Brock Lesnar's Match

2:41 to 3:58

Hosts analyze Brock Lesnar's recent performances and predict outcomes.

“NXT's first standalone event to stream on YouTube in the United States.”

Wrestling History and Inaccuracies

3:58 to 7:10

Hosts correct previous misconceptions regarding wrestling history and events.

“Yeah, you know, that's just how wrestling has taught us to look at things, you know, when you're really paying attention and you're making you look good, look good, look good, look good, I must be getting the victory.”

WrestleMania Memories and Growth

7:10 to 9:05

Reflections on the evolution of WrestleMania and personal experiences.

“We were talking last week, and I was saying how I was watching WrestleMania 17, and they took out Ice-T's performance with The Godfather and D 'Lo.”

Guest Introduction and Background

9:05 to 10:54

Introduction of Tony D'Angelo and discussion of his reputation in wrestling.

“It was just WrestleMania, and I watched that.”

Tony D'Angelo's Wrestling Journey

10:54 to 14:01

Tony D'Angelo shares his background in wrestling and experiences.

“If you guys know, our number one question is our bar fight question, TJ.”

Early Wrestling Experiences

14:01 to 15:46

Learn about Tony D'Angelo's childhood wrestling experiences and training.

“I started doing I did wrestling, football, baseball.”

Transitioning to WWE

15:47 to 18:09

Tony shares his journey from amateur wrestling to getting a WWE tryout.

“So he got me in contact with him, who got me in contact with Jerry Briscoe, got the tryout, and now we're here.”

Learning the Ropes

18:10 to 21:15

Discover the challenges Tony faced while learning wrestling fundamentals.

“But at that, you're just concerned about the guy across from you.”

Developing His Character

21:16 to 24:10

Tony discusses the evolution of his wrestling character and its authenticity.

“You know, whacking people and stuff, you know.”
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Trust and Betrayal in Wrestling

24:11 to 25:29

Tony reflects on the dynamics of trust and betrayal in wrestling storylines.

“The process of you picking your family, was that you looking for people to work with?”

Personal Life and Wrestling

26:41 to 28:05

Tony shares personal anecdotes about family life intertwined with wrestling.

“That's what's going through my head, bro.”

Wrestling Talent and Heartbreak

28:05 to 29:19

Explore how unique wrestling talents are discovered and share fan heartbreak moments.

“So, yeah, well, you know, in a street fight, really there's, there's no rules.”

The Undertaker and Kane Revelation

29:20 to 30:49

Discuss the myth behind the Undertaker and Kane being brothers and how it shocked fans.

“A moment that just was like, oh, no way.”

Tony D'Angelo's Historic Achievements

30:50 to 33:18

Delve into Tony D'Angelo's significant wrestling victories and championship achievements.

“Speaking of something funny like that, I just saw on Twitter.”

Fatal Four-Way Championship Match

33:19 to 34:54

Get insights into the upcoming fatal four-way match and Tony's perspective on it.

“But I have heard, you know, I've seen on Twitter and whatnot about, you know, when I inevitably win the world title, I'll be the first Grand Slam champion that NXT's ever seen.”

Preparing for Stand and Deliver

34:55 to 37:31

Discuss potential outcomes and headlines for Tony D'Angelo's upcoming match.

“Well, hey, listen, man, I was kind of wondering where you were going with the whole, you know, I have something in common with the Three Stooges, man.”

Imagining a Bar Fight Team

37:32 to 42:00

Tony D'Angelo discusses who he would choose to protect him in a bar fight scenario.

“So, Tony, on April 5th, right, what are – let's just say April 4th, I'm going to be busy.”

Football Discussions and Fan Perspectives

42:00 to 45:00

Exploration of the Chicago Bears history and fan sentiments, tying into sports discussions.

“But the Indiana Bears just does not sound good.”

Meeting Wrestling Legends

45:00 to 48:20

Tony D'Angelo shares his experiences meeting wrestling legends and their impact on him.

“And by the way, you mentioned Capoeira with Trick.”

Fan Encounters with WWE Icons

48:20 to 51:40

A humorous recount of fan interactions with WWE icons and the excitement they bring.

“So then, you know, like everybody I meet, I got to, you know, like throw the alley-oop to my tag team partner.”

Personal Reflections and Career Breaks

51:40 to 54:43

Tony discusses taking a hiatus from wrestling and the personal growth that came with it.

“after party from WrestleMania 21, which was out here in Los Angeles.”

Maintaining Appearance and Grooming

54:43 to 56:00

Discussion on the importance of grooming among friends and the lengths they go to maintain it.

“My neck's all hurting because I, you know, I've been trying to hold it one.”

Tony D'Angelo's Hiatus and Reset

56:00 to 57:29

Tony discusses his recent hiatus, personal challenges, and a new perspective on life and wrestling.

“or was that just so you could kind of do a little reset on you?”

Goals and Championship Aspirations

57:30 to 59:29

Tony outlines his goal to win the NXT World Championship and shares his excitement for upcoming matches.

“the NXT World Championship on April 4th at Stand and Deliver.”

Dream Matches and WrestleMania Moments

59:30 to 1:02:59

Tony reveals which legendary wrestlers he dreams of facing in a WrestleMania main event.

“hardened by now, so I can withstand a lot.”

Fun Conversations and Reflections

1:03:00 to 1:06:19

A light-hearted conversation about fishing, wrestling history, and personal connections.

“so I think that'd be fine that would be crazy to get in the ring with him can I just throw you one random one sure because you like the fight and you like the brawl Tony D 'Angelo and Bruiser Brody you mix it up.”

Upcoming Events and AEW News

1:06:20 to 1:10:00

Discussion of upcoming NXT events and a sad update regarding Toni Storm's injury.

“The winner of the NXT Men's Championship match is a family member of the contest.”

Discussion on Wrestlemania and AEW News

1:10:00 to 1:11:20

Learn about recent wrestling events and their implications in the industry.

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Transcript

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0:20O'Shea:Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another Wednesday episode of the No Contest Wrestling Podcast. I am the heel that you love to hate. O'Shea Jackson Jr. Hey, K.A. Petty Guerrero. Hey, yo. It's me. It's me. It's the T-double-O. That J-I-double-G-2. Jiggy. T.J. Jefferson. What up, though? What's up, man? Man, I am. I'm on location, man. I'm telling you. I'm on location. You want some. It looks like a hotel room in an undisclosed parts unknown type environment. No, no, no. It's a. It's a. We're on family vacation. We're all family makers. We got the whole family. We got my brother and his kids. I got my baby girl.

1:05O'Shea:We stacked out here. We're in Maui. Yeah, man. My pops rented out a house. Yeah, I had to sneak off into the office because my little nephew don't care about me recording, don't care about me, my show, or any of my success. He will scream in the background. So yeah, man, but I'm in Maui, you know, without long hair like The Rock. But yeah, I'm here. I'm here doing big things, but I still, I got a job to do, TJ. And that's what you're doing right now. We got a special guest coming up today. You want to tell the people who that is? Man, the big man, Tony D, will be joining the No Contest Wrestling Podcast.

1:54O'Shea:NXT obviously got Stand and Deliver coming up. and we used to be the hub for NXT. I think there still might be. There still might be. Therefore, they came to your boys in CW to make sure that we make Tony D feel like the star that he is. And we will do that. You know that's what we do. Yeah, I'm sure we'll drop this again later in the pod, but just right now, NXT stand to deliver. St. Louis, upcoming live streaming event produced by WWE for NXT. It's the sixth annual Stand and Deliver. It'll take place Saturday, April the 4th at the factory at the district in St. Louis, Missouri. And this is the first Stand and Deliver to take place outside of WrestleMania week.

2:40And the first standalone event, NXT's first standalone event to stream on YouTube in the United States. So, you know, I remember last year we went to Stand and Deliver in Vegas. The car started at like what? 6.45 or something a.m.

2:55O'Shea:nine it was no yeah no that's yeah that's when they got in that's when the wrestlers got in yeah it was a long night for some because remember the hall of fame was the night before and sean was at least i'm sure the nxt kids were in bed but uh or whatever they were doing in vegas but sean was there booker was there yeah so it was a late night for them but yeah standing to deliver and uh tony d 'angelo will be part of a fatal four-way for the nxt championship between our guy and you know what here's the thing about no contest wrestling all four of these men have appeared or are about to appear on no contest wrestling that's the champion joe hendry ricky saints former champion ethan page and my boy all right so make sure if you guys to get ready for that go and check out all our past interviews with uh those three and then of course this one with tony d coming up but before we get to him let's talk about the big thing and it was uh oba got brock again man monday night he got brock again and now that really makes me feel like brock is most definitely winning this match ever 100 but he's putting him over right because you don't always like like your boy levar ball says even when i lose i win sometimes a loss is a win now of course oba could come out and just run through them, but it's just kind of how I feel, and I guess by your life, how you feel this is going to happen.

4:21O'Shea:Yeah, you know, that's just how wrestling has taught us to look at things, you know, when you're really paying attention and you're making you look good, look good, look good, look good, I must be getting the victory. So it's, people are going to have something to say about it if it does go that way, because we could be wrong. I mean, I definitely didn't see Brock dismantling John Cena the way that he did at Wrestle Palooza. So like, you know, we didn't see Goldberg coming in and just wrecking Brock when he came out, you know, was that SummerSlam that year? Yeah. So like, so like, yeah, we know, we know it can go either way just through past experiences with this beautiful thing that is known as professional wrestling would lead us to think in this fashion.

5:08O'Shea:And therefore, yeah, yeah. And it, once again, it's still a delicate thing that they have to handle. Still a few weeks. Yeah, and I think Brock's still going to make Ova look good. I think if he does get the win, it'll be one of those, the experienced warrior. I didn't necessarily powerhouse you to death, but I beat you off experience. And that's the only way that I can see it still making sense for both characters. So you're going to catch him in a small package and roll him up for the quick three? That would be kind of interesting. Yeah, one of them. Imagine if he does that, but Brock has his foot on the rope or holds the rope.

5:49Oh, yeah.

5:50O'Shea:You got protecting. Protect, protect, protect. So that'll be interesting. And also, speaking of Brock, bro, you know, we always like to make sure that the stuff that we say here is accurate and factual. Last week, you and I were debating. We were thinking, had Brock ever beat Seth Rollins? And the second the show was over, I was like, oh, yeah, that's right. 2019 Extreme Rules. Brock cashed in money in the bank on Seth. No, it wasn't like an advertised one-on-one match. So I think that's probably why it just escaped our minds. Yeah, didn't even come up on Google. Right, but if you remember, there was an Extreme Rules winner-take-all mixed tag team match.

6:28Seth was a universal champion. Becky was the Raw women's champion. This was pre-marriage. They were just dating. They went against Lacey Evans and Baron Corbin. And if Lacey and Baron had won, they would have won both titles. Seth and Becky retained. and then literally three seconds after Seth got the pin, that music that scares you hit, Brock comes down, and that's how it was. Brock comes down, cash in, F5, three count, new champ. That's how that went down. So we were off, and I just wanted to acknowledge the fact that he actually did get a win on him.

7:06O'Shea:Yeah, man, we knew we not Colin Cowherd. We'll tell you when we were on. Also, one more thing. We were talking last week, and I was saying how I was watching WrestleMania 17, and they took out Ice-T's performance with The Godfather and D 'Lo. Actually, that was WrestleMania 2000. I watched that right after 17. So I messed up on that one. And I should have known that, Shay, because I was in the building. I was in Anaheim. Oh, my God. I was there. I was there at WrestleMania 2000. The amount of historical events that you're at, bro, you might be our our nexus point you might be like our canon event like we have to protect you at all costs I completely forgot about it and there's something else funny I sat because I got my tickets before the William Morris merger Endeavor I got my tickets through Endeavor Endeavor had signed WWE a few maybe like two years a year before that so I got my tickets through Endeavor and I sat with a bunch of the wives.

8:05I was with Karen Jarrett, who at that point was Karen Angle, married to Kurt Angle. I think I was with Chris Jericho's wife and Christian's either wife or fiance. And I remember Karen Jarrett telling me, Kurt at that time, he was the Intercontinental and the European champion going into that match. He had a three-way against Chris's Jericho and Benoit. And she kind of told me before the show started that Kurt was going to lose both belts, but he wasn't going to lose, if you get what I'm saying. I was like, oh, okay. I think it was Benoit beat Jericho first for the IC title and then Jericho pinned Benoit for the European title.

8:42I think it was something like that. But anyway.

8:44O'Shea:Just more Vince McMahon mumbo jumbo. I bring that up, bro, because getting close to WrestleMania, I'm sure you do the same thing. I know I'd like to go back and re-watch some old WrestleManias. Like I said, I watched 17, 2000. Last night, I went to the beginning, bro. I re-watched WrestleMania. I can't even say one because it wasn't WrestleMania. It was just WrestleMania, and I watched that. It's amazing to see how far WrestleMania has come, truly. But even then, Shay, before it had a history, it was set up that you really knew that this was something special, even back then for the first one.

9:23And now we are, you know, 40 some years later, 41, I guess, years later. 42. See, I didn't know if that first one, so it's 2, 3, yeah, 42. You know, I'm more verbal than math, you know. I can't count.

9:40O'Shea:Yeah, man. It's incredible how much it's grown. And for you and I to be going to as many as we are, that is the beauty of it. I almost slipped up. Like I said, the sad thing is it looks like the streak might be coming to an end after this year. Oh, yeah, bro. Unless you're doing a movie over there. Unless Mickey Mouse wants to throw a bag. Unless Mickey Mouse wants to throw a bag. I don't see it bro they're gonna make Pete Rosenberg do it of course you know the other big thing was Roman and Punk we're still getting that going except this time there was a little little Jay kind of stepping up and someone was giving Roman an order and Roman followed it I don't know I was hyped I was like for him to be like Joe get him Joe and he got him and he got them.

10:39Got them real good. But that's been good. We'll see where that goes. Maybe we'll touch on that a little bit later. But I know I'm going to let you do your thing because I know our guest is ready. I'm sure you've got something real nice set up for the man. So the floor is yours.

10:53O'Shea:All right, our next guest. If you guys know, our number one question is our bar fight question, TJ. Yeah, people love it. And this guy, he's been picked quite a bit by other superstars as somebody that will make sure you will get to the car. This guy is also probably the only one that might have the recipe on how to stop over Femi. The man obviously got hands, but tonight he's got answers on the No Contest Wrestling Podcast. Ladies and gentlemen, give it up for 20, De 'Anse. What's up? What's going on? Happy to have you, man. Yes, sir. Thanks for having me. a lot of people pick you for our bar fight question man they say that you are somebody to have on their side to make sure they'll get to the car man what's that feel like to know that you're the champ and a lot of people are yeah and we're talking trick was one uh do you remember there was at least three or four other than haku your name's been mentioned almost as much Oba picked you as well.

11:59There was at least three or four guys early. Well, he knows, unfortunately.

12:08No, it feels good, man. You know, the roster knows when it gets thick, you know, you want me in the corner. So, you know, I got a lot of accomplishments outside of here that will say, you know, point them in the right direction. Let's talk about it, man. What kind of accomplishments would make me want to make sure that you're on my bar fight team to get me home? Well, I'm not afraid to scrap, really. I mean, it is what it is. But I come from an amateur wrestling background, state champ, national champ in high school, college All-American, D1. I have a nice little list of accolades in that department.

12:56So I think that helps my case for sure. Wrestled for the University of Buffalo there. Yes, sir. Yeah, I did a nice little five-year stint, redshirted my freshman year. It was a good time. That's where I met my wife, and I got a lot of good friends from that wrestling team.

13:16O'Shea:All right, now when did you get bit by the wrestling bug is a question we've got to ask everybody on their first time on the show. So, when I was probably elementary school, me and my buddy Jason, we used to watch and, you know, we found out who The Rock was. Yeah, that'll do it. I remember we were on the school bus doing the eyebrow thing and just, you know, lay the smack down on each other. You know, we'd be in the backyard doing dumb stuff, you know. but then I found out who Kurt Angle was and, you know, being an amateur wrestler and all, you know, I had some medals and stuff and I would put those on and pretend it was an Olympic gold and, you know, double legs, single legs, you know, Germans in the backyard, probably not good for your, you know, it was, you know, we had our own promotion that we, we had to, you know, make sure the fans got what they wanted.

14:22did you know the hardy boys route with the trampoline or was it on the mats or was it Mick Foley style on some mattresses uh it was just on the dirt man just no we didn't we didn't have time to think about it we were just going getting after it let me tell you something as someone who once caught a DDT in about I think ninth or tenth grade on a hardwood floor by a friend of mine that was sometime in the late 80s and i think i still feel that today like i felt it about 20 minutes ago on my head so i can't imagine yeah you'll remember that one or or you won't remember it you know yeah but uh just uh you know kids being kids messing around but uh i think uh After that, though, after the elementary school stuff, you know, I kind of got away from it.

15:21I started doing I did wrestling, football, baseball. So I kind of didn't really have time to do anything or watch anything. So forgot about it for a while. After college wrestling, I wasn't really ready to be done in the athlete realm. So, you know, I tried to figure out how I could get into the WWE thing. And funny enough, one of my high school coaches, he wrestled at the Olympic Training Center with Chad Gable. So he got me in contact with him, who got me in contact with Jerry Briscoe, got the tryout, and now we're here. So, pretty cool.

16:06O'Shea:Have you had a welcome to wrestling moment? either a bump that puts you on your ass or a lot of times people bring up the ropes, you know, their first time hitting the ropes. What was your welcome to wrestling moment?

16:23I think my first couple of weeks, you know, we were just learning how to do all the, all the bumps and stuff. And I took a choke slam and that, you know, I, of course, of course I no sold it, but. You know, I got up. I was like, yeah, you know, I'll do it again. Like, but what the what am I doing?

16:51Made you rethink everything. I did for a second there. But then, you know, I headbutt the turnbuckle and I forgot all about it. So, but yeah, that that that chokeslam, man, I'll remember that. That was real tough.

17:10O'Shea:I've never – the chokeslam and the powerbomb, people hate those. There's nothing nice about it. I feel like we've had a few superstars that are just like, yeah, the chokeslam and powerbomb. I mean, there's not really much you can do as far as protection, I guess. And, yeah, real quick way to knock the wind out you, I bet. You know, well, if you don't land completely flat on either one of those, yeah, you're going to feel it for a day or two, maybe a couple weeks, who knows. But, yeah, the Powerbomb, that one's – I don't mind that one, actually. You know? No. Case in point, I took about 60 of them from OBA, and then I was still getting up.

18:01you know right after you started man how long did it take you to become comfortable to the point where you're like all right bet i think i i'm getting the gist of this yeah uh well i think coming from amateur wrestling the the the moves and stuff felt comfortable you know it's kind of in that same uh realm as amateur wrestling but it was really the the psychology and the you know fan interaction that was kind of new to me um and especially you know my third match was war games so your third match ever i kind of just i kind of just got thrown in there and they're like figuring out so uh so i i think wow probably like six months in maybe a little sooner it was like instead of okay making sure i do everything right uh it became like okay i'm gonna put on a good show you know my my mindset kind of changed a little bit uh as far as that goes but yeah for for a minute there i was just like don't don't screw up you know don't embarrass yourself in front of you know a live uh crowd and you know that was all somewhat new to me i mean I wrestled at Madison Square Garden in college.

19:23But at that, you're just concerned about the guy across from you. All that other stuff is just noise. Here, a little different story. Absolutely. So that was your third NXT match ever? Was that that match, that War Games match? No, off the top of my head, that was you, Grayson, Braun, Mello. Just the four of you? Yep. I mean, Trick had a little spot in there where he came in. This was Trick before he made his ascension.

20:03I'll give you guys a funny story, actually. We got through that match. It was a war. We're all beat up. And they're like, hey, let's get some pictures of you guys. like all right you know and then uh we're we're sitting at the uh the photo shoot and we're like where's trick where's trick and they're like he's in medical i'm like he was out there for two seconds what happened but he was he was fine he just you know somebody threw a chair at him when he was climbing the cage. It's not good. It's that open. That one's funny. That'll do it. Yeah, that'll do it.

20:53O'Shea:When did you get comfortable with the character? Nowadays in wrestling, we don't see too many characters. People want to come out and be the badass. you know but but the gimmick and the character is a part of wrestling that's just like that that's at its core that's just one of those foundational things and it you know you took it with stride it seemed like you know just from watching on tv so what what was that process of hearing the gimmick learning what you're going to be doing and and moving with it well i mean to me it wasn't that hard because it's it's a part of who i am you know i'm italian or you know i we have sunday dinners and you know that that was just my life for a while uh well forever really but uh yeah so people people i've heard them go like i can't i can't believe they gave them that gimmick and blah blah blah and i was like well it was actually my idea So it was pretty, it was a pretty easy transition.

22:07Absolutely. Out of my realm at all. You know, whacking people and stuff, you know. I wasn't doing that in real life. Okay, man, okay.

22:20O'Shea:Nobody said that. Nobody said it. I want no problems here. was that the first character you pitched was that and even before that was that something that maybe you you know we always talk about when you're hanging out with your friends you're back at wrestling was that something that went back to those times or was that just you got there you knew you needed a name and a character you went wait a second uh no you know it wasn't really like going back to the kid stuff but uh funny enough when we first got in actually me and braun were uh in a tag together breaker that braun breaker um so we were doing that for a minute not on tv but like they were priming us they're like that's this is what you're going to do kind of like the the new age uh steiner brothers type of deal were you in a singlet too at that time i was yeah okay yep um which you know i was wearing a singlet before that anyway so it wasn't like wasn't the big deal foreign but uh yeah and then uh i just remember one day um road dog came up and he was like hey man like you're not we're not doing this we're gonna go and it's right when uh 2.0 first kicked off they kind of just clean slate you know everybody we kind of have a lane for you and i had to figure out you know quick what i was going to do so in one of the uh you know in-house matches uh i just turned it on and they were like whoa like where'd that come from type of thing uh you know and all that and then they were like yep we're running with this like this is it so yeah pretty cool bro so the process of you The process of you picking your family, was that you looking for people to work with?

24:18Or were these guys that you got placed with and you guys all came together? That was kind of not on me. But I didn't have a problem with the people I worked with. Until there was a problem. Until there was one. and that line of work it's it's not built for longevity I'll say that I mean you guys have seen all the movies and it doesn't last somebody always gets jealous and you know wants to be empowered tired of taking orders I mean you saw what Stash did he stabbed me in the back stabbed you in the back it happens he kicked me in the nuts is what he did

25:07That he did. That he did. I was mad at Stax for a minute about that, man. He couldn't even do it while I was facing him either. So I had no idea it was coming. He went against the family. He went against the family. You don't go against the family. That's what you're always taught. But maybe not in his house. I don't know.

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26:39O'Shea:Well, like, what's going through your head?

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26:45Just, please, man, I want to have kids. That's what's going through my head, bro. Like I said, you know, my back's to them, so I'm already like, just, please. He took care of you now? He got me. Oh, he got you. Yeah. But I'm happy to say it's all working just fine. My wife's pregnant with our first child. Oh, congrats, man. Thank you. Thank you.

27:18O'Shea:I was talking about NCW exclusive right now. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. It wasn't as bad as I thought it was at the time. That's hilarious. TJ, I'm sorry, bro. I love you, bro, but I could not. We cannot do that. I can't trust you with that, bro. I think it's part of the job, man. It's part of the job. Tony, I work on something called with Rich Eisen here in L.A. on the Rich Eisen Show, a daily sports talk show. And a few years ago, Paige, Soraya, now, she came on as a guest right before her movie came out, Fighting With My Family. and there was a moment where she wasn't medically cleared to do anything but she told us here that she could kick somebody in the nuts without kicking them in the nuts she said that was a talent that she had so we had two of our guys on the show stand there and kind of brace themselves and take it and she did it man she the kick looked and sounded like a million dollars and she did not grazed the jewels so yeah that's crazy well first of all i want to just say how do you find out that you have that talent you know there's a lot of trial and error i feel like she had to wrap some dudes to to get there well you know she she grew up in a wrestling family you know they're for they're londoners they're a little bit rowdy anyway so i'm sure she probably caught some people coming out of a bar one night and didn't pull it and actually contact.

28:52So, yeah, well, you know, in a street fight, really there's, there's no rules. So yeah.

28:59O'Shea:Let's get to the car.

29:04All right.

29:05O'Shea:So we, we heard about you, you know, you're a fan of the rock in angle. You watched it growing up. So that means that you are perfect for one of my favorite questions. As a fan, when did wrestling break your heart? A moment that just was like, oh, no way. And crushed you as a fan.

29:35When I found out that. This is stupid. But when I found out that Undertaker and Kane weren't brothers.

29:50O'Shea:I know, man. I was like, what? I was like, my life's a lie. Oh, my God. I've heard that many times from people. That was one that happened to you a little bit. I feel you to this day. I was tough on my little mind at the time. That makes sense. I still see people every now and then, I guess jokingly on Twitter, will go like, they still don't believe that's not true. And in their mind, they really are brothers, and you can't tell them any different. Yep. I mean, he comes out of the flames. Undertaker's a dead man. So, like, it could still be true. Right. Every time I see Kane, I just think, no, man, you killed your parents in a fire.

30:41O'Shea:This is what happened. There's no way around. Yeah, now he's a mayor. That's just a front. That's just a front. He's fine. That's not for real. You got a case pending, bro. Speaking of something funny like that, I just saw on Twitter. or it was one of the wrestling blogs that Kane and Glenn Jacobs were having a back and forth on Twitter like they were I thought that was funny so that person who I said that didn't believe they weren't really brothers that just added fuel to their fire it's real it's real it's still real so Tony you know we mentioned this man's name because right now he he's on fire and his character's on fire and that's the ruler obafemi and the thing is like she said you you got you got the sauce you're one of what two three people that we've seen actually get a pin on oba back in october of uh what was that 2024 i want to say you you you won And you defeated him, ending his record-setting reign.

31:57He had a 273-day reign as the NXT North American champion. And you came out and you ended that reign. And I think you were the first guy maybe that I can remember seeing that.

32:13O'Shea:A one-on-one? One-on-one. I mean, maybe he lost earlier in developmental before we really got to see him. But, you know, once he became a person of note, you were the first man to put him down. What did that feel like? Well, I mean, I'm sure. Well, I just want to point out I beat him twice. I was going to mention that. Yes. Yeah. There's a rematch and you got it out there. Get it out. I'm going to point it out. But, you know, I'm sure to everybody else, it seemed, whoa, can't believe Tony D beat him. But as you guys have found out on your show, everybody wants me on their team when it gets tough.

32:57I'm not surprised. It was not a surprise to me. So, you know, I just was out there doing what I was born to do. And that's bust people heads. And I'm sorry to Oba, but he was just an obstacle in the way of what I wanted. Wrong place, wrong town. Yeah. And you made history. You became the first wrestler, and I'm going to make sure I have this right, to win the NXT Tag Team Championships, the Heritage Cup, and the North American Championship. You were the first person to do that. Well, I'll be honest. I don't know if that's true or not. If it's true, very cool. But I have heard, you know, I've seen on Twitter and whatnot about, you know, when I inevitably win the world title, I'll be the first Grand Slam champion that NXT's ever seen.

33:55So, wow. Pretty cool. And speaking of that, you know, coming up, you're in the Fatal Four-Way Championship match for the NXT Championship. April the 4th, Stand and Deliver St. Louis, where you'll take on Ricky, Ethan, Joe, and then there's you. And you know what all four of you have in common, Tony? What's that? All four of you have been guests in our family of the No Contest Wrestling Podcast. I don't know how many in the podcast can say that, Joe. I don't know how many other people can say that all four cats involved in this major, very major Fatal 4-Way World Championship match have sat down with Mr.

34:37O'Shea Jackson and 2Jiggy himself, TJ Jefferson, and call themselves Family of No Contest. But, I mean, we can say it. I don't know about your part. I don't want to do that. I don't want to do that. That's what I'm talking about. Don't do it. Don't hurt him. I'll leave that to you, Shea. That's your language. Don't hurt him, bro. Don't hurt him, bro. Well, hey, listen, man, I was kind of wondering where you were going with the whole, you know, I have something in common with the Three Stooges, man. But if it's got to be that, I'm cool with it. You'll take that one? Yes, I'll take that one. Now, you said the Three Stooges.

35:12Let's talk about it as a guy you know well loves to say. What can we expect, man, out of this fatal four-way? well look as you guys saw um you know when i faced ricky it kind of turned into chaos at the end of the match and right now that's where i'm thriving i love chaos so in my eyes i got him right where i want you know joe he's flustered the other two they're bickering they you know they say they're on the same page no point intended or no pun intended or pun intended they're not really you know they both want the same thing how could they be there's no honor among thieves and if anybody knows that it's me so it's going to be chaotic and that's where I'm doing my best work right now so sucks to suck but it is what it is love it

36:16O'Shea:it always feels like whenever there's call-ups, you know, and the NXT roster, it always feels like it goes through like a little refresh of the ecosystem down there. And you look around, you are the experienced big man on campus right now. So just the idea of you being, I mean, the most dominant figure in this new wave, You got to be chomping at the bit right now to get in this match. I mean, absolutely, man. I'm ready to steer the ship. Yeah. You know, it's been a long time coming. You know, I took my little hiatus, figured some things out, and, you know, my mind's in the right place, and this is exactly where I'm supposed to be.

37:14So, yeah, man, I feel bad for those other dudes because they just, they don't really stand a chance, honestly. They might think they do, but, you know, they'll say they do. You know, they'll say they're the right things, but they know. They know. So, Tony, on April 5th, right, what are – let's just say April 4th, I'm going to be busy. I can't watch Stand and Deliver. I'm going to be watching Stand and Deliver, please believe it. But let's just say on April 4th, I can't watch Stand and Deliver. And the first time I'm able to go on social media is Sunday, April the 5th. And I get to wrestling Twitter.

37:52What is the headline going to read? Headline is going to read first ever Grand Slam champion and new NXT champion Tony D 'Angelo. That's going to be the headline.

38:06O'Shea:There it is.

38:10O'Shea:Now, TJ, I got to make sure we get it in. I got to make sure I get the question in. Pause. Okay. Uh-oh. Chill, chill, chill. Gotta make sure I get the question in, bro. For sure. So, Tony B, you're at a bar enjoying yourself, possibly after a victory. Yeah. Celebrate maybe a championship. Okay. There's 50 dudes in this bar that don't like Tony B. Yeah. They're Mo Green fans. They don't like the Don. So I need you to pick a team of you plus four other superstars to make sure Tony D is getting to the car. Listen, I don't even have to think about it. It'll be it'll be me. Brown Breaker, the Creed's Tripp Williams.

39:05I'll take I will take that squad over anybody. athleticism right there look man they're going to need more than 50 dudes so we got you Braun, Julius Brutus and Trick Willie you got three Division I All-Americans okay and you got really five all in D1 athletics Braun was a state champion and in Georgia. You got the Creeds, and then you got me, and then Tripp Willie. He's been doing that capoeira, so he's got the Tripp take down. He's got those long legs, man. He's going to keep everybody at a distance. D1 athlete, too. What's that? I said D1 athlete as well. D1 athlete, he was part of the Eagles organization for a little bit.

40:04He's a stud. That's the only thing I hold against him, is that he

40:07O'Shea:I was about to say, don't mention this shit around TJ, man. And I'm looking at your hat, and I'm pretty sure that's a Chicago Bears hat behind you. That, yes. So I know you ain't got no love for the Eagles. I'm a Cowboys fan. I don't like the Eagles, but I do dig the Bears. I like what you guys are doing. Yeah, they turned it around. But I really don't have any love for the Eagles, man. It's not really their fault, but I'm sure you remember the double doink. Doink, doink. season, that was rough. That was painful, I know. I mean, we mowed over the Eagles this year. It wasn't even close. And they were supposedly, you know, number one D-line, number one defense, and all the Jalen Hurts, Saquon Barkley, all the studs, and the group of misfits that they call the Chicago Bears, he took it to them.

41:01So, now I'm excited for this next season. Yeah, what are you expecting as a Bears fan? We know Seth Rollins, of course, huge Bears fan, Montez Ford. And we got a Rams fan over here. I know he's going to have something to say. But what are your expectations for the Bears this year, man? You got the quarterback right. That's the most important thing. You got the guy there. I'll just say one thing about the Rams, okay? Oh, my God. I'll say one thing, man. We had you. We had you. That was a crazy, you know, the last three minutes. It was a beautiful game. It was a beautiful game, bro. Crazy game. But the last two minutes in every single Bears game, it's always fireworks.

41:53You know, you just can't count them out. That last pass to put them into overtime, that was the most up and down uh flow of emotions that i've ever had watching a game so what are you doing oh man and then he chucked it up and then he caught it and i was like what a genius he did it look at that man that somebody has to have that tattooed on him someone in chicago has oh you better believe it or maybe someone in indiana i don't want to make you mad but maybe you know someone there might have it too the thing in uh the thing in uh i'm sorry i'm sorry i did i didn't want to say all right i didn't want to say it what what are you talking

42:38O'Shea:about well you know that's that whole situation is so dumb like that's whatever man i get it but I actually know I'm not gonna lie I don't get it but you can't be like it's such a historic organization you can't like they're these Chicago Bears they've been around since the beginning of football like of course Indiana's happy about it of course they are yeah they're gonna get it they're gonna get the Chicago Bears but I think they should just move on if they want to move move them to Arlington Heights, you know, even though it kind of sucks because the stadium right now is right on, you know, Lake Michigan.

43:25It's a cool area. It's a cool atmosphere. But the Indiana Bears just does not sound good. The Chicago Bears of Indiana. I guess. That's not going to fly.

43:41O'Shea:Put a little hyphen in there.

43:46O'Shea:yeah yeah man the thing with uh as a caleb williams fan because he went to my alma mater usc and you know i watched the kid for a while he uh he swings for home runs every time and sometimes we just gotta you know get on base baby you know it's not like yeah listen i agree I totally 100 % agree with you. But the past of the Chicago Bears, it hasn't been that. It's always, you know, five, ten-yard passes. Everybody's scared to, you know, chuck it down the field. But I think that's – I mean, we had a lights-out year. You know, everybody wanted to watch the Chicago Bears. Incredible. It's because he was making those crazy throws.

44:34and, you know, of course his passing percentage isn't going to be, you know, a Bo Nix who's throwing check downs the whole time. He's, you know, he's going for it. And in my opinion, you know, you got to risk it for the biscuit. There you go. It's a star.

44:52O'Shea:It's a star. There's no way around it, man. Yep. I agree. So that was – somehow we went from bar fight crew to football, but I love it. That's what we do here, man. We talk about whatever interests you. And by the way, you mentioned Capoeira with Trick. There's a movie called Only the Strong that came out in the late 80s, man. And it's about this. It was my first introduction. I remember in college, someone had this on VCR. I was like, what is this? And it was all about this guy in Miami learning how to do Capoeira. So if you have any interest in it, Only the Strong, it is one of those kind of cheesy, late 80s, early 90s movies, but well worth watching.

45:33And it had me and my friends out there trying to do Capoeira like we were from Brazil, and it did not work.

45:41O'Shea:Eddie Gordo, baby Tekken, Eddie Gordo. Listen, man, I'll leave that Capoeira stuff to trick, man. That's right up his alley. I'm sticking to the wrestling, the amateur wrestling, man. That's my bread and butter. Just don't let me get a hold of you. I hope your cardio is good. That's all I got to say about that. I know. With your time at NXT, you know, being in the Performance Center, you know, a lot of big names stopped through there. Who are some legends that you've gotten to meet or gotten to have words with that blows the little kid version of you's mind? You know, like that fan in you. got to meet uh i think when i first got signed um and that this was right before you know triple h had his uh you know hard thing but uh he was it was still black and gold and everything and just you know my crew you know braun trick crease all of us we were doing the security gimmick so just Just to have him just to go out there and, you know, Finn Balor and Karrion Kross and Adam Cole, all these guys are having, you know, their main event matches.

47:04And then we're getting involved and we're getting, you know, instruction from Triple H and a Shawn Michaels. Like the little kid in me is like, how did I get here? Like, how am I here right now standing next to, you know, Triple H and he's going, hey, what's up? Like, what's up, Joe? how you doing like yeah you know heard all about you i watch you you're great like just hearing this person of that caliber talk to me and show an interest in me was it was insane but uh yeah i mean cm punk the undertaker john cena oh man all all these dudes man just meeting them trying to you know i don't want to be that guy i mean you got to play it cool you know But you're tripping, man.

47:54It is. I get it. The little kid in me is like, oh, my God, like what? This is nuts. But, yeah, they've all been good to me. You know, they're all, you know, super insightful, giving me all the best advice with the best intentions. So it's very cool when somebody of that caliber is, you know, talking to you and giving you advice. that's really cool

48:21O'Shea:me and TJ we did fanatics fest and we got to meet Triple H I didn't even go in there yet I'm not even going there yet but now I have to you have to now so we meet Triple H and Stephanie same day right and so we trying to keep it cool as we can and as soon as they left that room Oh my god You can't tell me bro We marked out so tough And so we're Going throughout the day We ended up interviewing Rey Mysterio We're riding a high You can't tell us nothing And then It's at the end of the day We hadn't even been a podcast I think that was our sixth month As a podcast somehow we got invited to fanatics brand new meeting these people it was crazy and then we go to a little green room on the side after our show and taker's there and so I take my belt over and I get my attitude era with the F on it signed by taker this belt he got when he was like 10 years old by the way since I was 10 bro so I got that song by Mick Foley so far, Triple H, and Taker.

49:51O'Shea:I'm telling it right now. Absolutely. So then, you know, like everybody I meet, I got to, you know, like throw the alley-oop to my tag team partner. You know, I got, you know, like this is my boy TJ. But TJ, you tell your part of the story. Go ahead, bro. My buddy Mike McGinnis, he works for Fanatics, and we're up there, and he brings Undertaker over. So it's the four of us, me, Mike, Undertaker, and Shay. And I think I got caught up in the moment, Tony. And if you've watched this pod enough, we've probably told the story 20 times, and we'll probably have to tell it 20 more. And I think because, you know, he started doing his own podcast and, you know, the curtain, he finally, after being the guy who stayed in character the longest, he finally let the curtain peel a little bit.

50:43You know, pulled it back. And just without thinking, man, I turned and I go, hey, Mark, good to meet you.

50:50O'Shea:Oh, my God.

50:55And, bro, it took about two seconds. I went, oh, no. And I went, I looked at him. I was like, hey, I just want to apologize. I'm like, I got caught up in the moment. I called you by your government name. I'm really sorry. He goes, you know, it's fine. He goes, you know, I'm a little bit calmer about that type of thing these days. And I was like, oh.

51:22O'Shea:You're trying to get us kicked out, bro. You caught him. You caught him at the right time. I'm sure. a couple years before that, he would have probably just walked away. But I happened to show him this picture that I took of the two of us at the after party from WrestleMania 21, which was out here in Los Angeles. So I quickly pulled that picture up and like, no, no, I'm a fan. Look, and then we recreated that picture. So I think he let it go, which was like, oh, yeah, no, that's good. And there it is. Bring that. So there they are. Look at that. Yeah, the one is from. Oh, hey, hey, hey. What's going on with the beard in that one picture, man?

52:03Well, it was just growing in it. That's when I decided that, all right, I'm going to commit to this beard gang. And then 20-some years later, I'm fully invested. Okay. All right. That was us. Nice. Looks good, man. Looks good. Appreciate it. That's pretty cool, though. It looks okay now, Tom, to be honest with you. My barber, Benny Blades, he's been on tour with New Edition for like the last month. So I'm looking like a hostage right now. I can't wait for him to get home because my beard is not proper. We're locked up a little trim. Yeah, I hear you. I need something, man. But he's out there with Ronnie, Bobby, Ricky, Mike, and Ralph, and, you know, boys, the men.

52:39And he's cutting them up and, you know, left me here looking like this. Yeah, man. He's getting after it, though. Yeah, he's doing this. I will say when your barber goes out of town or is not available, It's like a piece of you is like, damn, I need. I don't want to go to someone else.

53:02O'Shea:But, you know. Outsourcing your face. You guys know who Spice Adams is? Yeah. He always does that meme or that video of how you feel before you get a haircut and then after. Yeah. It's the truest thing. No feeling like it. Absolutely. No feeling like it. Absolutely. I'll share something with you guys. This is so stupid. Normally I go see my barber on the weekend, right? So if he cuts me on a Saturday, right? Now, you know, we got to do the Eisen show on Monday. So I want to make sure the beard stays as fresh looking as possible. I can't believe I'm going to share this with you guys. So that whole weekend for those Saturday and Sunday, the way I sleep so I don't turn over and mess the beard up.

53:50because I at least want to get Monday. Like, let me get to Monday where it's still looking as fresh as possible. So I'll be sitting there on the weekend sleeping like...

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54:40Max$100 cash back per month. Try not to roll over. Try not to mess the beer. you don't got a brush just to fluff it out I do but I mean it looks so perfect when he does it I just don't want to mess it up man like I'm in the shower like trying to avoid TV oh man

55:04I guess you gotta do what you gotta do right exactly

55:09O'Shea:now I know you be in the crib street Transylvania Monday and Tuesday come to work. My neck's all hurting because I, you know, I've been trying to hold it one. You straight Nosferatu all night trying to keep your beard. Looking proper just for two days. You know what you should do? You should put on one of those neck braces. Just keep your neck going. Or a sleeping pillow. I got one of those from the plane. Sleeping pillow, bro. Tony, take it. Yes. That's what I'm going to do next. Well, like I said, he's gone until April. So, you know, they're out there cooling it now and Mr. Telephone manning it all around the country.

55:46So I got to wait till he gets back.

55:48O'Shea:But hey, go get you a neck brace or, you know, one of those pillows and then I'm sure it'll be good. That's the move. That's the move. But Tony, you said something earlier I wanted to bring up. You talked about going on a hiatus after the family, I guess it kind of run its course. You went away for a while. Was that hiatus? Was that injury related? or was that just so you could kind of do a little reset on you? Because I know I mentioned the Dawn before, but that is not, you know, the character now. No injury. It was just a bit of a reset. You know, I will say I did have a couple of personal things that, you know, came up unexpectedly.

56:33But honestly, you know, things happen the way they're supposed to. So it was just, it was good. I got a reset. I kind of got a different perspective on life and work. And, you know, like I said, in that time, my wife got pregnant. so uh it just you know you get in this bubble and you just so like you know lift work eat film like you're just doing that for so long you kind of forget uh you know why you got into this or you know there's life outside of this and uh so sometimes you need a little reset and i'm pretty thankful that I got that opportunity and now I'm what you see on TV. I have a whole new perspective and outlook on what I need to do to achieve my goals and take care of my family.

57:29And that goal, of course, is to win the NXT World Championship on April 4th at Stand and Deliver. April 4th, Stand and Deliver. It's St. Louis in the factory And I also want to point this out. This is the same venue where I defeated Obafemi for the North American Champions. Okay. He's got history in this building, people. I got some history in this building. So that's any telling sign. I don't know what else is. Good luck to those other three then,

58:01O'Shea:man. Yeah. I got it. I got to get one more in. I got it. I got to get one more in TJ. I got it. I got to ask because I know. Yeah. So, you know, you're on NXT right now, and the goal right now is to get the NXT championship, and you are staying focused on that. But we, I mean, anybody who's been a fan of you knows that, you know, the main roster could be calling at any moment. And with that main roster comes some main roster-type matches. So when you think of things like the Rumble, Money in the Bank, Elimination Chamber, Hell in a Cell, which one of those big matches has always been on your dream set that you just got to get before the career is done?

58:58Well, I mean, the cliche answer is, you know, have a WrestleMania moment. um of course everybody says that so that of course that's on the agenda but uh i you know i'm kind of a brawler bruisey type of guy so i think i would have a lot of fun in hell in a cell i think i think i would thrive in that environment just kicking the crap out of each other i'm into that you know and you know knock on wood you know you know my body's pretty hardened by now, so I can withstand a lot. I think Hell in a Cell would be pretty cool. But on a, you know, secondary, I think the Rumble would be cool, just because me and my buddy used to play that on the old WWE games.

59:50For whatever reason, we just liked the Rumble and just having a bunch of dudes coming out. The roster at the time, everybody was a stud. So, you know, that was one of my favorite things to watch because you never knew who was coming out. Yeah. You know, people coming back from injury or, you know, a retired guy coming back to, you know, do some damage. It was a fun match for sure. Well, Tony, man. Sorry, Shane, go ahead. Go ahead.

1:00:26O'Shea:I was going to say, we know when we see Hell in a Cell and Tony D, we know that in his heart of hearts he's having the time of his life yeah I might look like I'm struggling but deep down I'm having a great time well Tony you know before we let you out here man one thing I'd like to say to you that we'd like to tell everyone now you've done this you're NCW and you're NCW for life you know what I'm saying so you're family now bro when you come to Los Angeles I'll let you know where the spare key is come in help yourself to what's ever in the fridge you know kick your feet back on the couch and watch the tv chill out and there's something in the house though right we don't tell everybody this just our special guests that uh in the garage we we got we got a delorean a little time machine okay so what i'm gonna do is we're gonna give you the keys to this time machine okay before you go and we're gonna let you go back to any point in time and i want you to pick five wrestlers from any era that you would love to have a Wrestlemania main event with who would Tony D 'Angelo love to test his skills against throughout the history of wrestling I think Macho Man he's in there you see my shirt right now Tony oh yeah there you go I didn't even notice that Oh, yeah.

1:01:56I'm talking to you, Tony D, the guy with the big guns, brother. Yeah, dig it. Yeah. You ever seen Spider-Man, the Tobey Maguire one? Yeah. Yeah, of course. He was in that first one. Me and my buddy, Joey, we quote him all the time. He's funny, man. I would love to work with that dude, which was also in a cage match. Maybe that's where I learned to love it. I don't know. but uh i think macho man uh stone cold that makes sense loved it i mean you know that check after it's all said and done that's gonna be a big one what yeah absolutely uh him i mean the rock you know but i gotta go with him he's kind of the one that got me into it i think uh kurt angle and for the fifth one man maybe Rick Flair I think that'd be kind of cool yeah so I think that'd be fine that would be crazy to get in the ring with him can I just throw you one random one sure because you like the fight and you like the brawl Tony D 'Angelo and Bruiser Brody you mix it up.

1:03:16Yeah, I've been getting a lot of comparisons to that guy. Yeah, I think that would be an extremely hard-hitting match. So, yeah. I mean, of course I'd like to work him. I mean, there's a hundred names that I would love to work, but, you know, picking five is tough sometimes. Well, we asked the tough questions here, Tom. Come on, though. Yeah. I appreciate it, man. Make me think. Got anything else yet?

1:03:44O'Shea:No, man, this has been fun, bro. This has been a fun one. It's always great when we see you guys, you know, being the giants that you are on the screen, but it's always fun to have an interview like this where you get to know the guy a little bit. And yeah, man, we had a good time. Did you have a good time? I had a great time, man. I appreciate you guys having me on. Like, this is, this is great. You know, as I'm part of your family, you're a part of mine. I really enjoy fishing on my off time, so I'd love to catch some hogs with you guys at some point. Me and Brian, we're doing all the fishing stuff right now.

1:04:29I'd love to have you on the boat sometime. That'd be pretty cool.

1:04:31O'Shea:Listen, bro, I've seen the Sopranos. I know what happens when people go fishing. That was a threat. It's fine. I saw what happened to Fredo on that boat. Yeah, what was that, bro? We told you we liked you. Hey, man. It's a bass boat. It's not one of those big ones with a cabin where you can go do the best. I don't have any cinder blocks on the boat. Oh, okay. Well, then maybe there's a chance. We've got to worry about it. We're chilling. Well, again, thank you, Tony. And everyone, remember, you're going to catch this man, Tony D 'Angelo, April the 4th, NXT Stand to Deliver. He's going to battle for the NXT Championship against the champion Joe Hendry, Ethan Page, Ricky Saints and Tony D 'Angelo that's April the 4th and that is NXT's first stand alone event to stream on YouTube in the United States so make sure you guys check that out Tony D 'Angelo man Tony D what a guy what a great interview I had fun with that one yeah you can just tell like it's a good dude it's a good dude behind there And also, you could tell you do probably want, based upon what everyone else says, you probably do want him on your team if a bar fight ever breaks.

1:05:49O'Shea:Absolutely. And, you know, he's about to be a new dad. That is a home mode that he is not. Like, you just can't prepare for it, bro. It puts you in that I got to get it mode. So I know he wants that title. We know how these things go. but now I'm rooting for the dude. That's the problem with these interviews, bro. You start to like everybody. Yeah, I can't root for everybody. You know, it just don't work that way. Well, there's one thing I can tell you. One thing's for certain and two things for show. April the 4th, NXT stand to deliver. The winner of the NXT Men's Championship match is a family member of the contest.

1:06:31That's all I know. I mean, once you won't. I mean, once you won't. Even when we lose, we win. You understand? You heard? You heard? But yeah, man. So you're out. You are, as we said, you're out on family vacations. You're about to take a flight home. Hopefully the TSA thing doesn't hinder your ability to make it back home in a timely manner. What am I thinking? TJ. Don't even say it. What are we talking about? Remember, get out like, don't say that. My bad. My bad. My bad. My bad. Thank you. Get home safe, my brother. Yeah, absolutely. Hey, Shay, I want to give a shout out. I want to give a shout out to the Potters of Destiny podcast.

1:07:15Okay. They had me on as a guest this past Monday. I met my man Corey when I was in Indianapolis for the NFL Combine. He works and covers the Detroit Lions, but he and his guys also have a wrestling pod. We met there. He came up to me, you know, said he wanted to talk to me like a few days before, but he didn't want to bother me. Like, bother me. You know me. I'll talk. We'll talk about. But yeah, he told me about their pod, asked me if I wanted to come on. So we were able to make it happen this past Monday. I figured, you know, just like here, I figured, all right, you know, 40 minutes, 45 minutes.

1:07:52The interview ended when we all went, all right, Raw's about to start, so maybe we should end this. It was well over two hours that I got to chop it up with the guys. Hey, okay. you know spoke of course spoke about you our relationship they thought that you and i must have like been friends for years and i was like i had a general knowledge of him he had a little knowledge of me for years i'm like nah man this thing didn't get started really heavy until recently and i said the funny thing about it is you and i the first time we ever met i have it recorded on on on my phone which is weird in itself like the first time you and i ever met I was interviewing you here at the Rich Eisen Show in the green room.

1:08:35And now here we are, 78 episodes into no contest, you know, seven years later after that first meeting. So this is beautiful.

1:08:48O'Shea:Then we just got the chemistry, man. Where can I see this interview? Oh, yeah. You can see the interview, folks. Go to the YouTube. You know, YouTube. You've probably been on there, people. Go to the Rich Eisen Show YouTube page or just type in No Contest Wrestling. You'll see all of our episodes from one to our most recent one, this one with Tony DiAngelo. Also on social media, you go to Twitter slash X. You'll find us at There's No Contest on Instagram, No Contest Wrestling Podcast. On TikTok, No Contest Wrestling Pod. Of course, you can listen to us on the ESPN platform, on Apple, Spotify, wherever you listen to podcasts.

1:09:29O'Shea:you such a professional because I was asking about the interview that you did

1:09:37O'Shea:you went right into it baby I love that that one I'm not sure when it's going to come out but when it does we'll definitely tweet it like I said we had a great chat with those guys about wrestling and you and this show and you know just everything you know it is when you start talking about wrestling man we start geeking out and time just flies but yeah so we got standard deliver we're still on the road to Wrestlemania Stephanie and Liv you know O'Shea called into the eyes and show yesterday he was Martin from Hawaii he always tries to put on a fake voice he got me the first time he didn't get me this time but we talked about Stephanie and Liv man the way they man that brawl looked real okay that looked real on Monday you know so let's see where that goes a couple receipts was happening you'll be back next week so you'll be back and see what we'll probably be able to chop that up a little bit more I want to make sure you're able to get out of here and catch your flight but one last thing bad news out of AEW man we hear that Toni Storm our girl is out for the rest of the year the rest of the year is like nine months away so it makes you wonder I'm not putting anything out there but you gotta kind of wonder is it just so she can kind of heal up I don't know but man apparently tony storm is out for the rest of 2026 damn after they set up the ronda thing yeah so hopefully hopefully everything's all right with her and hopefully this is just you know just like an extended break but man i hope it's nothing too serious you know we are huge tony storm fans and uh hopefully everything's all right with her absolutely man um yeah i you know i gotta to get up out of here, but that's something to keep in mind for next week.

1:11:21O'Shea:On behalf of my podcast tag team partner, I am O'Shea Jackson Jr. This has been no contest. Make sure that y 'all have a good day, but not too good because who the hell you think you are? Bye, Mr. Parker.

1:11:45O'Shea:From 30 for 30 Podcasts.

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1:12:13O'Shea:Murder at the U. Listen now.

From the publisher

O'Shea and TJ welcome NXT Superstar Tony D'Angelo to No-Contest Wrestling. The former "Don" of NXT talks how he became interested in pro wrestling, when it broke his heart as a fan, fishing with Bron Breakker, his love of the Chicago Bears, defeating Oba Femi and much more. Up next for Tony is a Fatal four-way, NXT Championship match on April 4 at Stand & Deliver: St. Louis. The card for WrestleMania 42 is shaping up & NCW recaps some chaotic moments from this week's Monday Night Raw including another Brock Lesnar beatdown by "The Ruler" Oba Femi.
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