Five Questions With Craig Kilborn

23:41Now he has his own commercial. He's a commercial director. He has his own company called Hungry Man.

23:46Rich Eisen:Yes. But he got Alan Brose. I don't remember that name. Of course, I remember Alan. I left to go to the Daily Show. They had to cut me out of Don't Walk, the campaign. And they were like, come on, man. I was like, just keep me in there. If it's such a hassle, keep me in. But they cut me out of Don't Walk. But that's funny. That was your first day. It was my first day on the job. And I'm like, what the hell is happening here? That's funny. So, yeah. So you got cut out of it because you walked. Right? See? Well, I like to keep my pivot foot as much as possible. but uh quick first you get a haircut and you know short haircut you feel a step quicker like quick first step like stockton used to drive on michael jordan i just feel great after a haircut by the way can i tell you something yes this is for the guys here you guys like a good rich eisen story i have no idea where this is going i am i am such a rich eisen fan like if i go my closet to get rid of clothes.

24:49I have some vests. I say, these are nice vests. I'm going to give these to Rich. I'll give my old tube socks to Carl Ravitch. But the vests, I'm going to give to Rich. So I'm going to play for you my outgoing message. This is when people call me. I think it's your best work. I used to have Dave Zinkoff on my voice.

25:09Rich Eisen:Oh, the Philadelphia 76ers. That's how I went.

25:14But anyway, so I have Rich on my outgoing message when you call. So if Rayo's from Hollywood calls and they say, Mr. Kilbourne, did you want to leave a 35 % tip? And I say, yes, that's fine. So I think this is your best work. I don't know if you'll be able to hear it.

25:31Rich Eisen:Just play it up to the microphone. You'll hear. Wait a second. Let me go back here. Okay. Here we go. I had no idea I was in such a position of honor on your phone. It's not playing there. I go to this other place.

25:54Please leave a message at the beep. Okay, hear the production value. Rich, it's in Dinkle. I was actually up in Carmel hanging out. It was 6.30 or 8.30. You're doing the game in London, and do we love saying Van Ginkle?

26:13Rich Eisen:By the way I always think of Ray Finkel laces out Ray Finkel from Ace Ventura with his hair, he's the king of the pick sixes, you know I'm glad I nailed the call at least on that one Van Ginkle picks off Aaron Rodgers I mean, Van Ginkle's pretty special, he's cat quick coming off the line and so there's the outgoing message, it's either that I really do that or it's just for this show, the production Whatever you guys want. We're going to believe that you really do. Whichever is a better story, I'll take it. I'm honored, Craig. Thank you for that. You do a great job. Do you enjoy doing those games?

26:49Rich Eisen:I do love doing those games. You going over there again? It's not yet announced, but I'm doing two of them in London. The Vikes are playing back-to-back games here. They are the first team in the history of the National Football League to be playing back-to-back weeks in Europe in two separate countries. That's never happened. They're going from Ireland, and then they're going to the U.K. They're playing the Steelers and Aaron Rodgers, so Van Ginkle can get him again. Yes. And then after that, they head to London and take on the Browns. So that's that right there. It's so interesting because I really believe we love KOC.

27:22He's awesome. He's 0-2 in the playoffs, but we love him. Yeah, yeah. Great coach. Love Brian Flores. And we seem to be kind of stacked. We went out and got a really good offensive line. We spent some money.

27:35Rich Eisen:Yeah. And I come to you, Rich, and I just say a lot of pressure on J.J. McCarthy. Oh, yes. I mean. I love him. You're going to love him. He's going to be great. I truly believe it. I know he's got a lot placed on him. I totally get it. But he's somebody who is ready for the challenge. He's really a mindful kid, and I think he's going to be that person who is an excellent avatar for what Kevin O 'Connell wants to do. He is a deep, I don't know if he's a deep thinker, but he quotes a lot of famous philosophers. And my advice to him is you better start quoting Larry Bird if you want to take it to the next level.

28:15You go up to Patrick Mahomes and you just say, you're playing for second place, man. I need Larry Legend in there because he's doing a lot of these Socrates and all this stuff. Right. But we're excited. I don't know. So are you saying J.J.

28:29Rich Eisen:McCarthy would be upset if a white guy is pass rushing him? Because didn't he famously not like... What a great reference. Did you like that one? Larry Legend always was like, you're putting the white guy on me? There's only one Larry. There's only one Larry Legend. Someone said, Rick Riley once said, and I think Costa said it and all that, but you take Michael Jordan, the greatest player of all time. Yes. Larry's a better shooter, passer, and rebounder. If you break that down. because Larry was a pure shooter, shot a higher percentage from the free throw line, unbelievable passer, better rebounder.

29:03Obviously, Jordan's the best, but I don't know if you can name a player who's better than Larry in those three categories.

29:10Rich Eisen:Did you ever meet him? You ever meet Larry? I did meet him once. When was that? That was out at the Smokehouse in Burbank. Wow, good place. Another friend of mine, Stacy Wall, was shooting a commercial for Budweiser, and they said, you know, Larry, the dialogue's these two guys noticing Larry Bird. Larry's sitting in a booth and he just needs to talk with someone and I want him to have fun, so just chat with him and we won't hear the audio. I asked him every question I've ever wanted to ask him. Like, you know, he bent his finger and he broke it playing softball at Indiana State right before the NBA draft.

29:44His pointer finger here. And his friends in college said, oh, he shot well in the NBA, but you should have seen him at Indiana State. he never missed because it didn't heal properly and it's bent and I asked him about that yeah I asked him about shooting left-handed against Portland because he said I'm just going to play left and he said I saved my right hand for the Lakers he has a bunch of lines Larry's wasn't that

30:10Rich Eisen:a bet didn't you bet was that Shaughnessy he bet like I can or is that um why am I afraid was it Ryan was it Bob Ryan told him Bob Ryan told a story that he he made a bet with a reporter that that he would shoot only left-handed against a certain team or something like that. That's the legend. Yeah, and they tell the story, and it was up at Portland because they had finished their road trip, the West Coast road trip. This was the last game. Right. And when Bill Walton tells the story, he goes, poor Jerome Kersey. He was scoring like three quarters. He had 27 points left-handed. Craig Kilbourne here on the Rich Eisen Show.

30:49Rich Eisen:We're just chasing basketball heaven right now. That's what we're doing. Look at us. It's a new for 30 for 30 podcast that premieres next week on Tuesday, July 22nd. I just love that you mentioned Hank Perlman's name and Alan Brose. Those were two of the individuals who are behind that. This is sports campaign. And I just remember, again, when I went there and those guys would show up and it was time to shoot sports center commercials. They would have this book of all the, you know, 10, 12 spots that they were going to shoot. Yeah. And they would always hold it like right to their vest. Like it's a poker hand.

31:22Rich Eisen:They didn't want anybody to see what was going on because it was always a question for a sports center anchors. Like, are we going to be in these? And which one am I going to be in? And is it a speaking role? Or am I just background with like, you know, the Philly fanatic? You know what I mean? And we all wanted to be in as many of them as possible. Right. But I always thought to myself, you never had to worry about that. You knew you were going to be in a bunch of them. Well, the guy Hank Perlman is still a friend of mine. and but i didn't know he said again he was at the ad agency white and kennedy right in portland and you know he lives in new york now he loves new york right but he moved out to portland and he wanted me to do the i met him he came to town he goes um he wanted me to do the voiceover for espn hockey promos and i said well i'm not the hockey guy he goes i don't care i want you to do them so we kind of we became friends right we have fun arguments and he's he's kind of silly Like he'll argue about, he thinks Paul McCartney, he's the fourth most talented Beatle because he doesn't like Paul McCartney.

32:25He makes himself look bad. He's kind of malcontent sometimes, but he's very funny, very talented.

32:31Rich Eisen:Which commercial did you, are you most proud of that you were in? Which one did you, like what is Craig Kilbourne's number one SportsCenter commercial? He was reminding me the other day, Hank, because I put up, I put up one on my iconic Instagram, Mr. Craig Kilbourne. I put up the one where I heard Charlie Steiner and Bob Lee on the phone doing some very intense stories, breaking some intense stories. And I interrupt. I say, excuse me, you guys prefer hurt me or spank me? And Charlie goes, spank me. And Bob goes, spank me. So that was one I put up. But Hank liked one where I was talking to somebody in a soft tone saying, how old are you?

33:14Do you need tickets? I'll give you a tour. I was talking to some young co-ed, and he liked that one a lot. I like the Glenn Jacobs one.

33:23Rich Eisen:Glenn Jacobs, who was a production assistant at the time. Yeah. One of the many you referred to as Sparky, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, I was very dismissive with him, and I told him he should get a new career towards pizza delivery, something like that. Was that in the line, or did you ad lib pizza delivery? Oh, I could say I ad lib. Let's give it to Hank. Team player. Give it to Hank. Team player. Team player. Oh, man. Yeah. I remember that. The first SportsCenter commercial that I was in was the one where we passed Kerry Strug around. Yeah. Remember she, you know, because Bella Carole carried her in his arms after she hurt herself in the Olympics.

33:59Rich Eisen:And we were passing her amongst all of the on-air anchors. And the last one, I think it was Gary Miller, passed her to the Michigan State Spartan mascot. And that was the end of it. And I think her mom was behind the scenes not happy about her being passed around amongst a bunch of sports center anchors in the newsroom that one went well i mean it was as good as as good as any uh craig kilbourne here on the rich eyes and show we have some elements we have some producing elements for you love when you guys put the effort in you guys are great well the effort is i might have just called somebody from our past and say hey how would you like to help produce a segment with craig kilbourne i love gus we love gus i love gus as well uh first one uh we have for business uh for craig kilbourne we play a little game around here called celebrity true or false where we ask about things from your history oh and see if they are true or false and we've got some excellent production value because i know you appreciate you appreciate production value yeah come on roll it go for it celebrity true or false you can't handle the truth all right uh celebrity true or false with the one and only celebrity craig Kilbourne.

35:08Rich Eisen:Just got two for you here. All right. First up, true or false, Pooh Richardson once sent you a fruit basket as a thank you for all the shout outs you gave him on SportsCenter. That is true. That is true. A Pooh fruit basket. And I immediately gave it to Carl Ravitch. Why? Because you're not a fruit guy? I don't eat fruitcake. But it's a fun word. Was it like an actual like you're sitting in Bristol, Connecticut one day or you're in the offices and a fruit basket came to the city? Was it a fruit cake or a fruit basket? What was your question? Fruit basket. You said a fruit basket. I thought it was a fruit cake.

35:44Yeah, it was a fruit basket. And I gave it to Carl because I'm a good person. And there he is. Played for the Wolves. Played for the Clippers. Knock, knock. Pooh's there. We did all of them. And then people would toss them to me. The cold and poo season. Pooh, poo, kachoo. That might have been the best. That might have been the best one, right?

36:04Rich Eisen:Pooh, poo, kachoo. So that would be true. He sent you a fruit basket. Thanks for all the mentions on SportsCenter. Yeah, yeah. Oh, my God. All right. Second one for Craig Kilbourne. True or false, Robin Williams once sent you an autographed Jumanji movie poster that's framed. I almost followed up the Pooh story by saying, and I also got, but yes, that is true. He did? Yeah. No kidding. Yeah. Do you still have it somewhere? I know. These things were in the garage. I don't collect a lot of memorabilia. You know I have from the CBS Late Late Show. I think they're worth something. But a lot of NBA jerseys.

36:50So when like the Sixers played against the Lakers in the finals, that's when Allen Iverson stepped over Tyronn Lue in the corner. The Sixers, we had somebody on from the Sixers, not Iverson. but they brought me a jersey sixer jersey with my name on it signed by alan iverson so i have a bunch of at least eight jerseys yes are they worth anything they're in the garage what should i do ebay charity or what should i go to give them charity or just well you're the collectors in

37:19Rich Eisen:the room bring them in here we'll assess yeah we'll take a look at it worth something probably what you've got like a jeweler's loop yeah exactly like that's what for for a jersey or We'll go over it with a fine comb tooth and we'll figure it out. I've got a Kevin Love jersey signed, Timberwolves jersey signed. Okay. Yeah, a bunch of them. Do we know if Robin Williams was just a fan or did somebody arrange for it? I assume it was the promotion company, the people in that department saying, Robin, just sign this. We're sending it to this guy that you know nothing about. You never know. And so you and Gus got together and decided, like, I'm going to say Jumanji when balls jam through the hoop.

38:05Well, I don't want to ruin it for people. I had a lot of these in my head, but I always encouraged Gus. And in the control room, he just whispered it in my ear right before the show.

38:15Rich Eisen:Gus is a genius. We would do pop culture references. I remember after, I thought Letterman did a great job hosting the Oscars. And sadly, they never invited him back because, you know, they criticized him. For the Uma, Oprah, Oprah, Uma thing? That's the one I did for Stockton Malone, Uma to Oprah. Yeah, I did that. For Stockton and Malone? Yeah, Stockton Malone, Uma to Oprah. Yeah. But joyous times. They were, Craig, I have nothing but the... It doesn't like staying awake until 2 a.m. Well, you did 2.30. Yeah. It wasn't 2 a.m. They were the 2.30 half-hour sports centers before they got re-aired all throughout the day.

38:52Rich Eisen:Yeah. Can you imagine there's a ESPN used to put a nine hour old program on in the late morning? Yeah. You know, like that, that would never happen again. Yeah. That will never happen again. But that's what you, you just were paving the way. Yeah. Craig, you're just paving the way. Craig, back to ESPN again, 30 for 30 podcast. It premieres next week on Tuesday, July 22nd. When we come back, I got a five questions for you. Oh, here we go. We're taking a break. I'm ready. We're going to take that break. Yeah. Rich Eisen here. Running a small business means every hire matters. A bad hire costs time and money, but the right one helps your business grow.

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40:25Rich Eisen:Back here on the Rich Eisen Show. Right here on the Roku Sports Channel. Craig Kilborn hanging out with us for the rest of the hour. How many ESPYs did you ever go to? Did you ever go to an ESPY or no? No. Never once? Never went to an ESPY? I was asked to host it once when I was at Daily Show. so you left ESPN they cut you out of the don't walk commercial because you had the temerity to walk and then they circle back and say would you like to wind up hosting the ESPYs anyway and they said don't tell I declined I was busy I didn't want to do it I was trying to focus on the daily show but they said please don't tell people we asked you to do it and I haven't until today so how many years is that well I've been gone 22 years so this has got to be over a quarter century old piece of news you pulled it out of me Rich look at this I think the statute of limitations or the non-disclosure I would disagree with that I would disagree with that so you were asked to host an ESPYS was it back in Radio City?

41:33Rich Eisen:I was in New York and it was at Radio City who was it? was it Walsh? who was it? The guy who went to the NFL Network? Fred Goodelli. No. Stevie B? Stevie B. Asked you to do it. Rich, do an imitation of Stevie B. You'll do the show? I don't care if you left. Whatever. Is that Rocky Balboa? No, no. I got this cough I can't get rid of. Steve Bornstein is my rabbi. He's smart enough he hired me twice. You know what I mean? the ESPN and NFL Network okay so that would have been wild because you know Stu and I were as Dan and Keith called themselves the old Muppet men up in the radio city side booth and when Dan and Keith were done with that show Stuart and I did it they did the pre and post show you know at the ESPY awards so wow could have looked down and seen you on the stage of Radio City Music Hall look at that i know you did the cable ace awards yeah i did that one i know yeah yeah because i was sitting i was sitting in the um uh the audience uh with john walsh and norby williamson who are former executives at espn um and uh we you know john is uh one of my favorite people on the planet and um i was sitting in between them as sports center lost to mlb network oh for the first time.

43:09Rich Eisen:They were not happy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Even if it was a cable-ice, they wanted it, you know? So you were on the stage, I remember that. Yeah. Craig Kilbourne. We go way back like a car seat. You know what I mean? We're getting older, but we look the same. I agree. Well, I'm just trying to follow your lead, sir. So, okay, we've got... I have one J.J. McCarthy question for you. Sure. What do you got? Is he going to be better than Bo Nix? Wow. Great question. I'm surprised that Bo Nix was that good. Okay. Yes. But I have more than one question. But what is the ceiling? I'm a Troy Aikman fan. Yes.

43:46Both as a broadcaster, but as a football player. I loved his pass to Alvin Harper in the championship game up at Candlestick Park when they went on to win a Super Bowl. Yes. But will he be as good as Troy Aikman? Because everyone, you're saying this. He's a Hall of Famer, Craig. I mean, three-time Super Bowl champion.

44:04Rich Eisen:Listen. How good is he going to be? All I can tell you is this is a kid who's still a kid. So when you're talking about Troy Aikman, that's very high praise. Back on the Rich Eisen Show radio network with Craig Kilbourne asking me, is J.J. McCarthy going to be as good as Troy Aikman? I can't tell you he's a Hall of Fame quarterback, clearly. What I can tell you is, and you asked, is he going to be better than Bo Nix? Bo Nix, the reason why he was good in two different ways, in my estimation, is one, the coach he was attached at the hip to is Sean Payton, aces. Two, he also had 60 starts in college.

44:39Rich Eisen:J.J. doesn't have that. But what J.J. had was two stellar seasons with Jim Harbaugh in his ear. And now he's bringing what he did, obviously, at Michigan to the next level. And he's attached to the hip with the reigning coach of the year, who is dynamite when it comes to connecting with a quarterback. So the fact that he's got Kevin O 'Connell in his ear in Jim Harbaugh and his DNA is some outstanding footing. And he's also a kid. He put like a smiley face on his hand to remind himself to get out of your head. You know what I mean? Because he said he used to take football way too seriously. And so he's mindful.

45:20Rich Eisen:He's mindful. He's athletic. He's got a big heart. And he also knows what's in front of him. And I don't think he's like, you know, I'm a national champion. Look out. He knows he's got to earn it. and he knows he's got a quarterback coach slash quarterback and coach together with Justin Jefferson right there and terrific teammates around him. So he's set up is what I'm saying. Okay, a couple things. I heard someone say he can be just, if he's just an average quarterback or slightly above average, solid, Vikes are going to do well. Don't screw it up. Correct. And the other thing is if I'm KOC, especially at the beginning, especially at Soldier Field at Chicago.

46:03Rich Eisen:Monday night. Monday night. Run the ball, like protect them a little. Run the ball. Yeah. And then pick your spots. Right. I mean, obviously, and they picked up Jordan Mason from San Francisco. Yes. So you can split the carries. Exactly. Amongst, you know, with Aaron Jones, who's terrific. They're set up for success. I just, I can't tell you that J.J. McCarthy is going to be a Hall of Famer, but obviously I love the kid. There's one other stat I want you to know. You probably know this. You know, they said he didn't pass a whole lot at Michigan because of it. Well, they ran it quite a bit, right.

46:37Rich Eisen:But the stat was on third down, he was really effective on third down. He's terrific. And he also had weapons that he would find. And, you know, he beat Ohio State a couple times and one time with his arm in Columbus and shut the whole place down, and it was great. You know, but that's my opinion of J.J. McCarthy for you right there. 844-204-RICH is the number to dial. It's furnished by Granger with professional-grade products for every industry. Granger has you covered. Call ClickGranger.com or just stop by. I've got five questions for you, Craig, before we go out of Dodge right here, if you don't mind.

47:10I don't mind, and I'll get in trouble if I don't mention my mighty Timberwolves. We've back-to-back Western Conference Finals. Yes, sir. As my friend Kyle Teige likes to say, these are the golden years of the Timberwolves, and maybe, just maybe, we'll win a championship in the next few years. Who knows?

47:25Rich Eisen:Craig Kilbourne is caping for his T-wolves. Why not? All right, five questions with Craig Kilbourne. I need some music, Mike. Why don't you play the music you play for Chris when it's a non-NFL piece of business for our top five list and stuff like that. Five questions with Craig Kilbourne, everybody. Here we go. First one, start, bench, cut. Bud Grant, Mike Zimmer, Kevin O 'Connell. Start, bench, cut. Well, that's a really tough one. I'm a big fan of Mike Zimmer because he used to sleep at the office and he's tough as nails. This is really difficult. I can't. Bud Grant, I have to show respect.

48:07I'm going to start Harry Bud Grant, Horseshoe Harry, played for the Minneapolis Lakers, led the team to the Super Bowl numerous times. If he would have had his version of Spygate, we would have won a Super Bowl.

48:21Just to stay, I have to bench KOC. I'm going to cut Zim only because he's retired, but I love Mike Zimmer.

48:29Rich Eisen:Understood. The correct answer is anything. Any order would have been correct. That's number one. I take the game seriously. I don't cop out. Any of them. Number two for five questions with Craig Kilburn. You can listen to only one Barry Manilow song for the rest of your life. Which one do you pick? I'm glad you asked because I always choose one that's not quite as popular. Right. It's called Somewhere in the Night. Oh, that's a great song. A lot of modulation, a lot of crescendo. I interviewed him, and I said, you build and you break through the wall, you modulate at the end, and I'm on a man of high when I listen to Manilow.

49:07And he said, you get me, Craig. And backstage when he met me, he looked up and said, you're such a tall boy. Anyhoo, Barry Manilow.

49:17Rich Eisen:Unfortunately, the correct answer was Mandy. Yeah, Mandy. Very popular. She came and she gave without taking. But the key thing also is there's always a key change. Don't forget the key change in the Manilow song. There's always a key change. Boom, boom, boom. All right, number three and five questions with Craig Kilbourne. Bear versus trampoline. Scary or hysterical? For me, because I'm a little more sophisticated than people. Civilized. I think it's scary. The young people love it. It's an old video we used to show on the Late Late Show. There it is. They think it's hysterical. so what's your answer uh i just gave right okay scary if i can say if i can do anything with bench starter cut i can say anything i want here but i'm saying for me for me it's it's uh for the kids it's hysterical okay that's the correct answer hysterical uh here's the geography portion okay number four uh within 10 how many municipalities are there in the great state of montana within 10 uh 23 129 is the correct answer all right you're counting you're counting uh butte

50:29Rich Eisen:craig kilbourne everybody fantastic uh five questions with craig kilbourne right here to close out our number two on the rich eyes and show here we go last one on your last late late show you danced one last time what was the song you danced to oh um i think it was by the ohio players love roller coaster yes wow the big finish you got it right wow love roller coaster by the ohio players remember that song of course how do you get your kid i I don't know if you know this, guys. Ohio players. Wasn't that a fun down memory line? You're such a tall boy. Greg, it's Tuesday, and I just want to dance, dance.

51:19Rich Eisen:Why'd you choose that song? Something about some of the instrumentals, the arrangement made me laugh. It was easy to move. The Love Roller Coaster. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Love Roller Coaster. Love Roller Coaster, an interesting intellectual. We'd have some of the guests come out, like Carmen Electra, to Me So Horny by Two Live Crew. What's the guy's name? Luke? What's Campbell? Luke Skywalker. Luke Campbell. Uncle Luke. He sued the production company. It was a long process. Because we were kind of taking chances at the beginning with walkout music. Okay. And we were playing Miso Honey when Carmen Electro would walk out of one of the Victoria's Secret Miles.

52:04And we'd play that song because it made us laugh. And then we got sued and I didn't.

52:11Rich Eisen:Well, Worldwide Pants did, right? Worldwide Pants. So Letterman got sued. Yeah, yeah. Did you hear from Dave? Not on that, but we didn't. I don't know what happened after that. We just played really basic music, like generic music or something. permission uh rather than forgiveness no thank you yeah you know what i mean like you gotta go you gotta do the other way around sometimes yeah you gotta you're making omelets man yeah some eggs gotta get cracked it doesn't matter it doesn't matter craig kilbourne as i live and breathe uh a new 34 30 podcast premieres next week next tuesday july 22nd chasing basketball heaven and the life gorgeous podcast with craig kilbourne that's available everywhere you get your podcast Great to see you, brother.

52:51Rich Eisen:Great to see you, too. I love that right there. The ascot, the drink, the whole thing. Get that wherever you get your podcast. Great to see you, Craig Coburn. Thank you, sir. Anytime right here on the Rich Eisen Show, when you go back in the green room. Is he here already? Christopher McDonald's back there. Oh, cool. It shall be indeed. The great Christopher McDonald coming up here in hour number three on the Rich Eisen Show. 844-204-RICH is the number to dial right here. Don't you dare go anywhere. Craig Coburn is here on the program. and good to see you pal. Thanks brother. You got it. Did you park?

53:22Rich Eisen:Do you need validation? I'm good. You sure? That's what you do in Los Angeles. I'm going to walk a little bit and then get in the car. Got to work out, get the miles in. Getting in the steps right here on the show.

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