Former NFL QB Drew Brees

27 Aug 2025 · 51 min · 15 chapters

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In short

The Rich Eisen Show’s hour featuring Drew Brees, plus earlier segments predicting the AFC South and discussing NFL quarterback news. Brees focuses on coaching at Santa Fe Christian (a wing-T-based offense with added passing concepts), his relationship with Sean Payton, and his views on Bo Nix and the Saints offense. He also promotes the We Give Blood Drive with Abbott and the Big Ten.

Guests (and backgrounds)

  • Drew Brees: First-ballot Hall of Fame QB; now offensive coordinator/passing game coordinator at Santa Fe Christian football.
  • Other recurring guests mentioned earlier: Greg Olson (NFL on Fox analyst), Matthew Berry (NBC Sports fantasy expert), Chris Brockman (news update host), TJ Jefferson (division prediction contributor).

Key claims

  • Brees says his team’s offense is “wing-T” plus play action, screen game, empty passing, and vertical passing.
  • He describes Sean Payton’s offense evolution from “third grade math to calculus.”
  • He expects Bo Nix to “crank it up a notch” in a Sean Payton system and highlights Denver’s stout defense and run game/play-action setup.

Notable examples

Brees’ 2006 Superdome reopening Monday Night Football: Steve Gleason’s blocked punt and New Orleans’ early scoring drive after third-down conversions.

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Chapters

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AFC South Predictions

0:33 to 1:01

Discussing predictions for the AFC South division in the NFL.

“And a throwback flick at the local drive-in.”

AFC South Predictions

1:35 to 3:18

Discussing predictions for the AFC South division in the NFL.

“Our number three of the Rich Eisen show is on the air.”

In-Depth AFC South Analysis

3:18 to 7:59

Analyzing team strengths and weaknesses in the AFC South.

“Yes, real quick, guys, if we can give a shout out to Joshua Hines Allen.”

News Update Segment

7:59 to 14:00

Chris Brockman shares the latest sports and entertainment news.

“I mean, the AFC South is generally kind of a shrugger.”

Learning from Adversity in Football

14:00 to 16:38

Explore how adversity shapes players' careers and learning opportunities.

“and watching and learning and growing and working on the things you need to work on without the same pressure of being the starter.”

Drew Brees Joins the Show

16:38 to 21:26

Drew Brees discusses his coaching role and experiences in football.

“Rich, last one before we get to Drew Reese.”

Drew Brees on College Football and Big Ten

23:23 to 28:00

Brees shares insights on college football dynamics and the Big Ten conference.

“There are many ways that I can introduce our next guest here.”

The Expansion of the Big Ten Conference

28:00 to 28:50

Learn about the evolution and expansion of the Big Ten Conference in college football.

“I love the fact that we got the Big Ten.”

Drew Brees on Bo Nix's Progress

28:50 to 30:50

Drew Brees shares insights on Bo Nix's development and challenges in his second NFL season.

“Drew Brees, what is your best guess of what Bo Nix is going through right now?”

The Player-Coach Dynamic with Sean Payton

30:50 to 34:20

Drew Brees discusses his relationship with Sean Payton and the evolution of their offensive strategy.

“One of the first ones that Knicks might have experienced last year as going through in year two.”
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The We Give Blood Drive Initiative

34:20 to 35:51

Drew Brees explains the We Give Blood Drive and its importance in addressing blood shortages.

“that maybe fit their system or fit what they were trying to build.”

The We Give Blood Drive Initiative

35:57 to 36:10

Drew Brees explains the We Give Blood Drive and its importance in addressing blood shortages.

“And the school that gets the most blood donated will end up winning a million dollars towards their school and student and health care activities.”

Memories from the Reopened Superdome

36:10 to 40:30

Drew Brees recalls the emotional experience of playing in the Superdome after Hurricane Katrina.

“You do have loyalties somewhere up north.”

Sean Payton's Sideline Story

42:01 to 43:50

Learn about a humorous sideline incident involving Sean Payton and a credential mix-up.

“I'm standing on the sideline with Marshall watching the game.”

Chicago Bears Win-Loss Predictions

45:06 to 51:04

Join the hosts as they predict the Chicago Bears' performance for the upcoming season.

“We played them on Monday Night Football five weeks prior, and now we are back in the divisional round at Seattle.”
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Transcript

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1:00Rich Eisen:This is the Rich Eisen Show. This is awesome. Can you feel this magic in the air? Live from the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles. Travis Kelsey. No way. Asked. Taylor Swift. Yes. Said yes. Awesome. Your English teacher and your gym teacher are getting married. The Rich Eisen Show. She's the English teacher and he's the gym teacher. Earlier on the show. NFL on Fox analyst Greg Olson. NBC Sports fantasy football expert Matthew Berry. Coming up, Super Bowl champion Drew Brees. And now, it's Rich Eisen. Our number three of the Rich Eisen show is on the air. 844-204-RICH-NUMBER-DON. Drew Brees is going to join us.

1:46Rich Eisen:Come on now. And that'll be in 20 minutes time. So, first ballot Hall of Famer, ahoy, coming up right here on the program. Ahoy. and so already had fun with Matthew Berry and then Greg Olson in our number one if you missed it we re-air right here on the Roku Sports Channel also there's our podcast for those who want to listen on demand there's our YouTube channel as well youtube.com slash rich eisen show we're going to have a news update shortly on the program and just refreshing from yesterday's news we're still wondering how many Michigan people can be banned from Ohio Stadium. Right now, it just appears to be one.

2:29Rich Eisen:I'm sorry. I don't want to get you in trouble. That was Fox. Apparently, it was Fox's decision. Yeah.

2:36I mean.

2:38Rich Eisen:Okay. Trying to get your man fired over here. No, I'm not trying to get him fired. It was Fox's decision. 844-204-RICH is the number to dial on the program. Every day, we are leading up to the NFL season by predicting start to finish divisions. We're going to now return to the American Football Conference. We started this week with the AFC North. And then yesterday we did the NFC South. Now it's time for the AFC South. TJ Jefferson, you're first up. Let's predict the AFC South for our listeners and viewers right here on this very busy Wednesday. You have the floor. Yes, real quick, guys, if we can give a shout out to Joshua Hines Allen.

3:23Rich Eisen:Yes. Jaguar star. His seven-year-old son, Wesley, he got to ring the bell today. He's been battling leukemia. He finished his treatment. He's in remission. That's awesome. Thank you for mentioning that. I had no idea. Yeah, it just popped up on Twitter. Wow, okay. That's pretty awesome. Thank you for mentioning that, and congratulations to him and the family. What a relief that is at this point in time. Yeah, and so now he can just concentrate on this season, and now we're in the AFC South, and I got the Titans coming in at number four. You know, I like Cam Ward. I think he's going to do well, but Titans are, I think, pretty clear the fourth place team in this division.

3:57Rich Eisen:And I'm very confused. Two and three. This is it. I kind of. This is the conundrum here. I did the win last game before I did this. And believe it or not, I got these two teams tied. Same record. Colts and Jacks. I got a tie for the second place. What's the record that you have? I have them both at eight and nine. Okay. And the Texans win? And the Texans number one. I'm hearing so much. No, obviously, I haven't seen a lot of Texans preseason, Chris, but I'm hearing and reading a lot that this defense could be special this year. And plus, Matt Berry just got done saying they're going to air the ball out.

4:30Rich Eisen:Maybe C.J. Stroud goes back to that rookie season. Well, as you can see, they graphically supported your belief in 1224. Those guys ain't no joke back there, Rich. Or is that, oh, is the mentalist guessing your phone passcode? It was 1212? It don't matter. It's six numbers now. Guess that, O's. 1224 sounds like what O's guessed. He can guess your code. I bet you can't. And also your second grade crush. What are we doing? I ain't messing with O's. That crazy is wild. All right. My AFC South looks a little bit different than TJ's. I do have the Titans fourth. Love Cam Ward. I think he's going to be special.

5:13But everything else, it seems like they're kind of a mess. So they're going to be fourth. I have the Colts third. Quarterback, eh. Love Tyler Warren, Josh Downs, and Jonathan Taylor. Love those guys. But they're not as good as these other two teams. I think the Texans are second. I have Jacksonville winning this division. Oh, yeah.

5:35Rich Eisen:Do you have a win? I love Houston's defense. I think that's obviously strong. But we saw C.J. Stroud get killed last year. And, you know, they traded their best offensive linemen. That is true. To Washington. And who is running the football? Because Joe Mixon doesn't seem like he's going to play anytime soon. Nick Chubb has his own set of injuries that he's trying to come back from. Damian Pierce has been left for dead by the side of the road. And then they got Woody Marks. So who are these people? They're just going to let Stroud do everything? Who are these people? And he can't get a wide receiver to play healthy.

6:10Love Stroud. I think maybe, I don't know. I'm just going with Jacksonville. because Trevor Lawrence, are you going to show us something or what, man? It's now or never. You got the guy who resurrected Baker Mayfield. You got all these offensive weapons. You got Travis Hunter now. You got two good backs. Let's go, man. Well, not to pick nits,

6:33Rich Eisen:but Dave Canales was there when Baker first showed up, and then Liam Cohen took Baker. The last year Baker had his career season. I understand that. And I am high on the Jaguars, but not enough to have them win the division. I think the Texans are still the class of this division, sir. And I do have the Colts third. I am concerned for their season. Again, man, I'm hoping for a Daniel Jones renaissance for him. You know, Chris Ballard just had a press conference. We're going to hear that in our news segment in a second. I love Chris Ballard. As you know, he's one of my favorites. He said Daniel Jones reminds him of Alex Smith, a pros pro, comes to work every day and it's the same every day and he knows what he's he comes as a professional and everybody can follow along in that suit but the number of times you would just see him like really you threw it there really you didn't see that pre-snap really this was the plan and you held on to the ball really i mean the number of times giants fans will tell you about that and i saw it in munich last year against the carolina panthers i still just need to see it first and I'll take Jacksonville second with a shot to make the playoffs.

7:48Rich Eisen:You know, I feel about Travis Hunter and I think Liam Cohen is going to coach him up and I think defensively they're going to be better but the Texans are still the class of the AFC South and that's our predictions of the AFC South going into the season where we're three divisions in. Okay. It's fun. We all had something different. I like it. Okay. I know we did kind of switch it up. I mean, the AFC South is generally kind of a shrugger. The South, both Souths are kind of a shrug. You never know. You never know. Hey, before we get to our news update, is part of your news update that the Yankees are allowed to play the Washington Nationals every day for the rest of the season?

8:23Hold on. Let me just scan the document real quick.

8:26Rich Eisen:Are they allowed? No, although I did see. That's not a news headline? Aaron Judge has hit his 41st home run. No, I know. And it's just, it's great. You're back on baseball. Well, as long as the Yankees play the Washington Nationals. That's great. All right. So that's not part of your news update. It is not, no. Damn it. Sorry. All right, then let's get to the rest of it. You do realize that it looks like the Yankees and the Red Sox are going to play in each other. And it just depends, all three in Fenway Park or all three in Yankee Stadium. You know that's coming. I love it. I mean, that would be great for the sport.

9:02Rich Eisen:That's great for this show. Unless Seattle can knock one of the two of our teams down a peg. Right. Right. But that's right now, the Yankees and the Red Sox are going to be a half game separated or tied. Yeah. At the end of the day. Yeah. So we're two up on Seattle. You do realize that's happening, right? A half game up on you guys. Okay. Yeah, it's fun. Let's get to this news update from Chris Brockman brought to you by NHTSA.

9:32And now with a report of the day's news from the world of sports and entertainment, someone who is not a journalist or newsman by any definition of the word whatsoever.

9:44Rich Eisen:It's Chris Brockman. Hi, Christopher. What's going on? Hey, guys. How are you guys? I'm doing all right. What up, Doug? You know, he was doing really good at Spencer Rattler yesterday, named starting quarterback for the New Orleans Saints. He was on our show over the summer, July 3rd to be exact. Rich, you asked him, how does he fit into the Kellen Moore offense?

10:05Yeah. Yeah, he beat out Tyler Shuck. And of course, now he's the starter. And we talked to him over the summer.

10:11Rich Eisen:Alan Moore's offense, not to have you spill the playbook out here on the live Rich Eisen show, but how does it suit your game? Do you think, Spencer? I think just like he wants us to play like point guards, you know, distribute the ball, get the ball in your playmaker's hands. You see all the success he's had with, you know, Dak Prescott, Jalen Hurts, Justin Herbert, just a few of the guys to name. But all those guys can move with their legs a little bit. They could throw the ball. I think, you know, that suits my game really well. I think I can move around, make plays with my feet. But definitely my strength is throwing the ball and distributing the ball.

10:45So, you know, feel good with what he's calling

10:46Rich Eisen:and feel good about the playbook. Just want to keep diving into it. He was one of the top prospects in college football years ago. He was one of the highly touted guys coming out of high school. Yeah, five-star. And it's just like they put Caleb Williams in. He goes to South Carolina. Everybody forgets about him. He winds up a fifth-round selection. And now he's in the catbird seat, which is, again, Kellen Moore being the new HC. We all saw what happened in Philadelphia. I know you as a Cowboys fan knows what he can do in terms of scheming stuff up. I just don't know what they have around them and what they're going to be able to do.

11:24Rich Eisen:Chris Olave's still pretty good. I mean, Rihid Shahid and Rashid Shahid and Alvin Kamara's still there. Kamara's still there. What are we talking about here a little bit? They're kind of sneaky. But good for him. Good for him. And Tyler Shuck, you know, I know he, you could sit here and say he can wait. It's not like he's 21. He's 25, right? But he still, just let him develop and let him go. Spencer Rattler go. And if it falls completely apart. Arch Manning's waiting. What's going to be the alliterative way? You know, suck for luck, right? Right. Or the rhyming way. Yeah, I've heard the March for Arch.

12:06I don't love that one.

12:08Rich Eisen:You're not marching if you're tanking. It's not negative enough. We'll think of something. They marched on a boat for TJ. That should just be it. That I do like. I don't think America will have that resonate with them. Okay. What else you got over there? They want me to be happy. By the way, his first start, how about this? Spencer Rattler v. Kyler Murray. Oklahoma reunion. That's pretty fun. Right? A couple of shrug emojis. And then what's up next for him? Spencer Rattler v. Brock Purdy. Spencer Rattler at Sam Darnold. And then Spencer Rattler at Josh Allen. Best of luck. What else you got over there, Chris?

12:55Rich, we were talking about Indianapolis and the AFC South. Front of the show, Chris Ballard was speaking today to reporters. asked about Anthony Richardson and the quarterback competition that went on this spring. I know the negativity and it's easy to say, okay, he's done. And I don't agree. I've said this numerous times. I do not agree with that. I think overcoming challenges and obstacles along the way are good for anybody. I do. I'm proud of Anthony of where he's at, how far he's come. he's come miles. I mean, I want you to think back, you know, and it's tough on any young quarterback in this league, but for him to keep taking the growth steps that he has and to work so hard and then not get the goal for himself, all right, now to continue to do that, that's when we got a chance to see real growth.

13:55And there's some value, there's a lot of value in sitting behind a guy that's a professional and watching and learning and growing and working on the things you need to work on without the same pressure of being the starter. There is. There's a lot of good to that.

14:17Rich Eisen:You know, I totally believe that. I totally believe that, and I understand there will be some hard-bitten fans or just plain old fans that see that and say, Chris Ballard are just spinning because he blew the pick. But let me just give multiple examples here. He was asked if they were going to trade. He said they're not going to trade him. Why would they trade him? First of all, this whole like, oh, he's done, he's toast. Zach Wilson was toast and then five snaps in, Aaron Rodgers is done and you're back. Same thing could happen for Anthony Richardson. and why would they trade him? Number one.

14:58Rich Eisen:Number two, in terms of learning from adversity and failure, you're looking at one. 22 years ago, got handed a cardboard box, right, by ESPN. I thought, what the hell am I going to do now? Yada, yada, yada. We all know what's going down, right? Another, late 2019, get a call from DirecTV saying, Rich Eisen's show is finished. Finished on DirecTV. and I'm like oh god what now neither time did I think both of those moments were seminal moments in my career that would be massive opportunities massive talked about this yesterday Susie's first class at USC that she is the professor for co-professor for uh only by the only she said you want to be called professor Schuster that's so cool though I know I know I would basically like if I had that ability, I'd want you to call me that here.

15:57Rich Eisen:Right? Professorized. My grandpa used to call me that. You want to do that? But it's the only class at USC that's part of the Annenberg Communication School and the Marshall Business School. It's pretty cool. I'm calling you Professor Seuss. We were all talking yesterday about to these college students, failure is not the end. No. It's actually possibly the beginning and a great learning opportunity and also growth mindset and things of that nature. When we're done with this news update, which we're not yet, I'm going to throw a break. And you know who's going to join us is a first ballot Hall of Famer who once got passed over for Philip Rivers.

16:46Rich Eisen:blew out his shoulder his career was on the rocks at a crossroads wound up in new orleans yada yada yada drew breeze will join us as a first ballot hall of fame right again i'm not saying this is what anthony rich is in that he's going to wind up being successful bryce young last year oh why he's got to get out of carolina they don't like him They don't need him. They don't want him. They just benched him. What a horrible place for him to work. You see where I'm going with this? So. What else you got over there, Chris? Rich, last one before we get to Drew Reese. You know what? We've talked a lot recently.

17:26TJ, I think you acknowledge that about the Browns quarterback competition. We know Joe Flacco is going to be the starter. Looking at the depth chart, it's Dylan Gabriel number two. Shador Sanders number three. Kevin Stefanski was asked about Dylan Gabriel winning the backup job. I think you factor in everything, Scott, truly. You look at it from a bunch of different angles. So certainly we made the decision and feel comfortable with Dylan serving that role. Everything the guys did in the games was important. We also saw a lot of them out here in practice and how they are at their craft. And he's certainly somebody that we think is getting better and better.

18:07Rich Eisen:Scott, was that Hanson? Unclear. Okay. they clearly have more confidence in Dylan Gabriel than Shadour Sanders. It's that end of story. They selected him two rounds before. And let me tell you something. Dylan Gabriel is going to get some action. Oh, yeah. I mean, there's going to be at some point, right, where Flacco might not be able to answer the bell. He's got his bell rung or. Yeah, blue tent first. I don't know. I mean, like Dylan Gabriel is going to get out there. It's going to happen.

18:37Rich Eisen:first quarterback not named cam ward that got drafted this year who's going to see game action in the national football league we just started this new segment with tyler shuck is the second string quarterback in new orleans dylan gabriel and shador sanders two and three on the depth chart in cleveland jackson dart is third on the depth chart behind jameis and Ross. Right? I'm not missing anybody. Jalen Milrow. Jalen Milrow was the third round pick. You want to go there? Because apparently they got packages for him. Does that count? I want to see like he's under center. No, I want to see it. Yeah, I want to see actual leading a series.

19:15Rich Eisen:Right. It's not like, okay, you're at the 10 and you're Seattle's Taysom Hill. Yeah, I don't want no, no, no. What do you got? What do you think? Man, that's a good one. DJ, you want to? I'm going to say I'm going to say Dylan Gabriel. I'm going to say Dart. Dart. Dart because Russ gets benched? Just because I'll have to pass Jameis. I know, but all indications are he's looked really good, and I'm just hearing good stuff out of camp from him, so he's just the one I'll go with. And how about these apples? At the end of the day, it's Flacco and two kids, and the top kid is Dylan Gabriel. And Shador will be third, and I'm telling you, If Flacco struggles and they go to Dylan and he struggles, it is going to be loud in the pound.

20:04Rich Eisen:What did I say today, Chris? October 5th? October 12th. October 12th is what you said. October 12th, week five. That's where you predict Shador just because, what, he wears number 12? Just the first date that came to mind. Because that would mean you've gone through two. One might not be available due to health, but in the other one you're surpassing because of effectiveness. That would be a tall order to go through two by week five. No, that's just us sitting around chopping it up. I don't want someone calling a month from now and holding it down that I said this. What do you care? I guess I don't.

20:40Rich Eisen:You shouldn't. You shouldn't. You're TJ Jefferson. Yeah, that's true. With Arch Manning cards and a successful wrestling podcast. Exactly. Successful wrestling podcast and a way to go to work behind an airport. Future boat owner. You show up at work, you do fantasy drafts at work, and I don't care. And we interviewed Lola Weiss on Monday. That's a news update presented by NHTSA. Whether you get pulled over or get into a crash, drinking and driving will change your whole world. Drive sober or get pulled over, paid for by NHTSA. Drew Brees, everybody, hour number three, rolling on, right here on The Rich Eisen Show.

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23:15Rich Eisen:That's three months of free payroll at Gusto.com slash rich. One more time, Gusto.com slash rich. There are many ways that I can introduce our next guest here. One of them is the fact that he's joining us courtesy of the We Give Blood Drive. That's one way to do it. As part of his many ways that he gives back and is community-oriented. He's a first ballot Hall of Famer. When his time comes, that's another one. Someone I've known a long time as well because he was in year, I believe, three in the National Football League when NFL Network was born. Then, you know, covered his 20-year career. But he is the offensive coordinator and the passing game coordinator for Santa Fe Christian football.

24:00Rich Eisen:Ladies and gentlemen, Drew Brees on the program. How's that for the Drew? Did I hit him? I wasn't expecting that last title, but that had a nice ring to it. What does the Breeze-coordinated, cooked-up offense look like, Drew? What do we have here? It would be the most fun offense in all of high school football. If you could go back in time, Rich. Yes, sir. I'm not sure what position I would have you play yet. We are a wing-T offense. So I adopted and acquired a wing T offense that has been run for 30 years at my kids' high school. But basically I came in as the passing game coordinator to basically take that wing T offense and add play action and then some other, you know, fun, unique offensive elements to it.

24:48Build the screen game, build the empty passing game, build the vertical passing game. So we got a kid who can throw it. We got some kids who can catch it. And we play tough defense. So, you know, we're off to a good start. We're 1-0.

25:00Rich Eisen:Okay. We're airing it out, and we're gap-scheming the heck out of people, too. I love it. Is Balin in this scheme? Balin is a junior playing slot receiver. And then my middle son, Bowen, is a freshman. He's playing the X receiver. Oh, my God. And then I've got an eighth-grade son playing quarterback, and then my sixth-grade daughter is a gymnast. Dude, I remember these babies. They were babies. They were babies. And now you're coaching a junior in high school, man. Drew Brees is here on the program. It really is good to see you, sir. Do you miss playing football, Drew? Oh, yeah. Do you miss it?

25:36Absolutely. You do? I mean, look, I love the game so much. And, look, it's a reason why I coach. I mean, I coach obviously because my kids love the game and I want to be as part of as many things as I can with them. I love coaching their friends and being around the environment of being able to build a team. And I've always seen football as so much more than just playing a game. It's character and leadership development and faith development. And that's what we do at the school that I'm a part of as well, Santa Fe Christian. But also, I just I love the game. I mean, I always I've always seen it and processed it differently.

26:05Obviously, playing so long in the NFL. But man, I mean, I'm such a fan of the game. Like if you if you just called me up and said, hey, let's go to the local high school game just to watch ball. I'd be like, heck, yeah, let's go. I don't care if it's Pop Warner or high school or college. I'm taking my kids to the Texas Ohio State game this weekend. I'm taking Saints games every other weekend. I mean, look, we just we love ball.

26:25Rich Eisen:Did you, I imagine you must have known Arch Manning. You must have crossed paths with him quite a bit, right? Back in the day in New Orleans? My kids went to Newman, which is where Arch went to school in New Orleans. Right. So we crossed over my last two years. Arch was a freshman, sophomore. So watched Arch play from when he was a freshman. I mean, you could see right away, phenomenal athlete. Obviously got big Archie's athleticism. I love it. Yeah, go all in. Go all in. You know it. No, no. You know it. You know it. You know about Peyton and Eli. Go on in here, Drew. Go on in. Hey, here's the irony.

27:01Here's the irony, because we watched a couple of Texas games last year. Sure. You've got one of the best passers in all of college football, who was basically the Taysom Hill of the Texas Longhorns last year. They put him in to pound the rock and run all these QB design runs. And I'm sitting there going, like, this is one of the better passers in all of college football, fulfilling this role for Texas. You know, who would have thought? No offense to, you know, Peyton and Eli. But you didn't see Peyton and Eli doing that. No, I know.

27:33Rich Eisen:I think one of those moments led to a welcome to big-time college football playoff moment. I think he got smoked on one of them in the college football playoffs. But I am excited to see what he's got cooked up. And it's pretty cool that you're going to see this. and what an environment as well with Ohio State raising a banner. Saturday of the college football weekend, kicking things off. You're here courtesy of the Big Ten as well, back there in Big Ten country, Drew. It's going to be pretty cool for you. I'm excited. You know what? I love the fact that we got the Big Ten. Well, whoever thought the Big Ten would be 18 teams.

28:13Rich Eisen:That's right. And stretching coast to coast, you know? Right. But I can't think of more storied football programs than the ones we have in the Big Ten now. And adding SC, UCLA, Washington, Oregon last year, I'm going to go watch SC play at Purdue this year. I know Purdue travels and plays at Washington. I mean, it's crazy to think about now just kind of the reach that the Big Ten has. But just the level of competition across college football now is incredible. I love the extended playoff with the college football playoff. I mean, it just makes for a bunch of really, really exciting games throughout the year.

28:46Rich Eisen:Yeah, we'll get to the We Give blood drive courtesy of Abbott and the Big Ten conference that you're here zooming in to talk about in a sec, if you don't mind. Drew Brees, what is your best guess of what Bo Nix is going through right now? What do you think? I think he's extremely excited. Coming off a rookie season where, I mean, look, for any rookie coming out of college football to then go and start a full 17-game season now and then going to the playoffs, I mean, it's a grind. It's a grind. And now couple that with the fact that, you know, he's in a Sean Payton offense where obviously, you know, they require a lot from the quarterback position.

29:26And, you know, you're trying to develop that rapport and chemistry and everything with your receivers and the team as well and establish yourself. I know Bo was more than excited about coming into this second season, feeling like there was a whole other level of comfort. Man, he had a great plan for what he wanted to get better at this offseason, where he wanted to improve. Man, he's such a natural athlete. Tons of experience coming out of college, 61 college starts. There's a maturity there that, you know, most guys, I think it takes a while to develop. He was a multi-sport athlete, you know, so he's just got all – he's got this skill set and these traits, and I think this demeanor that really lent itself to being, you know, an exceptional NFL quarterback.

30:09And, you know, I think it's time, you know, for him, and I know he feels this way, just, man, crank it up a notch. Obviously you got the Kansas City Chiefs and the Chargers in that division that are, you know, kind of the bullseye on the Chiefs' chest. But, you know, you've got a really tough division to get through. But, man, that defense that they have is stout. I know Sean Payton wants to run the ball as well and establish the run. It sets up play action and everything else for Bo. So, I mean, shoot, I think they're poised to have a great season.

30:37Rich Eisen:Well, I mean, again, you weren't a rookie coming into Sean Payton's world. You were established, okay? And we all know what was going on in San Diego and how you arrived in New Orleans back in the day. That said, what was the tough love moment with you and Sean Payton? One of the first ones that Knicks might have experienced last year as going through in year two. Yeah, so see, to your point, you know, Sean Payton, his first year as head coach was my first year there, right? I was his second free agent signing. so I really felt like you know where that offense was then compared to how we evolved over 15 years together I mean it was night and day it went from like third grade math to calculus 303 you know but but that was an evolution over time that we kind of built together and we had this institutional knowledge with each other I mean like we could look at each other and say hey remember that play we ran in 2007 against the you know whatever on Sunday night football and you know blah blah blah And then, you know, so there was that just rapport that was created over time.

31:35And to your point, here's Bo Nix stepping into the situation where it's like, OK, well, this, you know, this offense is already at like a stage nine, you know. And so you got to almost kind of reel it back and say, OK, let's start from, you know, square one. It's basically learning in a completely new language. And you're only going to be able to do what you feel like the quarterback is comfortable with. But at the same time, you're trying to press him and challenge him to really, you know, kind of embrace it all. And I mean, Sean Payne is going to make that offense as complicated as the quarterback can handle it.

32:03And there's so much so many elements to it that I mean, look, I think for me, you know, Sean and I had that type of relationship where it got to the point where truly I knew what he was going to call before he called it. And a lot of that was just communication throughout the week. And as we would talk through situations and that sort of thing. But I mean, that's really where you want to be with the play caller. I mean, do we have those moments where you're coming to the sideline and he's pissed about something with me? I'm pissed about something with him. And you're trying to, you know, you're always recognizing that you're working together to come up with kind of the best solutions to problems and that kind of thing.

32:42At the end of the day, you know, it's the player-coach relationship. And you know he's always trying to bring out the best in you that, you know, just makes you want to play so hard for him. Like I always felt like I had something to prove to Sean Payton. And the largest part that was because I knew that he took a chance to bring me into New Orleans coming off of my injury from the Chargers. And so I just always felt really indebted to him throughout my career.

33:06Rich Eisen:Yeah, maybe Knicks feels that way too, right? She was chosen 12th overall last year in a draft where five other guys went and Bo was kind of viewed wrongly, obviously, as sort of like the last resort for somebody who needs a quarterback. in the first round, you might as well take them. You know what I mean? Isn't it funny? But isn't it funny that, you know, so six quarterbacks taken in the top 12 picks last year, right? Yeah. And yet each team that's selected really felt like they got their guy. You know, I mean, maybe there were teams that said, oh, had I had the first round pick, I would have taken Caleb Williams too, or whatever the case.

33:46But bottom line is, like, when Sean Payton told me, hey, I really wanted Bo Nix next to or above all these other guys. I believe that. And it just happened to be that Bo fell to being the sixth quarterback taken, even though that was the 12th pick, which is a really, really high pick. And Sean Payton's sitting there going, well, I could make an argument that he was the best of the bunch, right? So each guy kind of has their own evaluation process, their own reason for feeling like they got the guy that they really, really wanted. that maybe fit their system or fit what they were trying to build.

34:24But regardless, I find it fascinating that in an industry that is so precise and so exact and puts so much thought and effort into the draft process or how you're building the team or how you're kind of filling all these positions that you would have so many different opinions about who the better player is or how they fit a system a certain way. But bottom line is I think Sean Payton got his guy, And I think we're going to see that play out.

34:50Rich Eisen:It's exciting. That bandwagon's full, man. People talking about the Broncos this year and obviously what's going on with Sean Payton. A few minutes left here with Drew Brees. Let's talk about the We Give Blood Drive. What is it? What do you want people to know about, Drew? Yeah, it's fantastic. It's a partnership with global health care leader Abbott and the Big Ten Conference called the We Give Blood Drive. I'm encouraging everybody to get out and give blood. We're in a major shortage across the U.S. in regards to blood. Everyone who gives blood, first off, everyone every two seconds needs blood.

35:23That's an amazing statistic that I don't think we realize. When you give blood, you can save three lives, which is also incredible. All the blood that's given, over 25 % of it goes to help cancer patients. And so what's a better way than to also incentivize the Big Ten schools to have a little competition, a little friendly competition here to see who can actually donate the most blood. So right now, I would encourage everybody, go give blood at the local blood centers. If you have an affiliation with the Big Ten School and you want to participate, then go to BigTen.org slash Abbott and register your blood donation to the school of your choice.

35:57And the school that gets the most blood donated will end up winning a million dollars towards their school and student and health care activities.

36:06Rich Eisen:As you know, I can participate for my Big Ten School. You can participate. You do have loyalties somewhere up north. You could say it. That's awesome. Hold on. He's afraid he won't be let into Ohio Stadium on Saturday. Oh, yeah. He's going to the game. Don't poke the bear, man. They're real sexy. He's going to the game, Drew. I don't know. Apparently, Big Ten schools get upset if you talk poorly about them, and so they may not let you on the game. Okay. So I respect, I don't want to, you know, your whole family's going, it's a big game, I don't want to mess around. Look, I root for the Big Ten.

36:43I want to see the Big Ten succeed. Except when we play other Big Ten schools, then I want to kick their butt.

36:49Rich Eisen:I understand that. Before I let you go, I don't believe I've ever asked you about this, and you mentioned 2006, and you and Sean Payton showed up in New Orleans together. We all remember Katrina damn near wiped that city off the map, and the Superdome reopens, and NFL Network was there on this Monday night. I remember it was a big initiative, obviously, for Paul Tagliabue in the league to make sure that New Orleans was going to get their due and get the stadium and keep the team there, and it was a monster night. And I'm getting goosebumps talking about it because there's a statue outside the stadium right now about the Steve Gleason block punt.

37:27Rich Eisen:And I've never heard a stadium louder, Drew, in my 22-plus years with NFL Network. I've never heard anything like it. I was sitting next to Marshall Falk, Mr. New Orleans himself, and I remember Mike Vick and the Falcons are in. He fumbled a ball in the first possession, and the ball was loose, and the place went nuts, and then it rolled out of bounds, and it brought about a punt. I imagine you're standing on the sideline ready to take the field to score the first touchdown for the New Orleans Saints in the reopened Superdome. Correct? Am I right? Absolutely, yeah. The floor is now yours. What happened from your perspective?

38:01Well, it's exactly right. My mindset is I'm really not even watching the punt. I'm sitting there just – I'm zoned in on, okay, here's the first play. What am I looking for? And I'm more just focusing on, you know, what am I going to do when I step on the field to execute this first drive and what is the biggest game of all of our lives up to this point. And I hear it before I ever see it. Is this blocked punt by Steve Gleason? I mean, it was like a shotgun blast, and then the Superdome absolutely erupted. I mean, it was like it could have blown the top off. But just what that symbolized and also the person who was responsible for that, Steve Gleason, probably one of the greatest human beings, one of the greatest teammates ever.

38:44And we know his story and his fight with ALS. But that was a symbol to not just the city but the world that, you know, New Orleans was going to come back stronger than ever. And there was no way we were going to lose that game.

38:58Rich Eisen:Exactly. One of those where four snaps in, game's over. I sensed it. I felt it. It was unbelievable to witness it. It's so rare, right, for fans to get what they want so quickly in this day and age with a big moment that everybody in the building knew they will never forget the rest of their lives. I am wondering, though, in the first 15 scripted, what was the first play? I imagine, were you and Sean going to take your shot? That's a great question. I don't remember, but I do remember when we got the ball, the first possession, we did go down and score. But we had to convert a couple third downs.

39:37And I remember the Falcons had some exotic pressure packages. And I was just getting the feeling like, man, they need a little momentum shift here. So they're going to dial up one of these on the first third down. So sure enough, it was like third and ten. And we call one of my favorite pass plays. But they dial up one of these pressures, and they have a guy free. And he's bearing down on me. It's one of those where it's like, dude, just stand in here and deliver the ball. And I got absolutely rocked. But a completed pass, and then we end up – I think we end up running like some kind of a reverse to Devery Henderson and scoring and going up 14-zip.

40:10And it was just kind of like further putting the nail in the coffin as far as like how this night was going to go and how we're going to beat these guys. But, no, I just – I remember getting – I remember my back hitting the turf pretty hard, but then knowing, hey, we're going to score a touchdown and we're going to go win this thing.

40:27Rich Eisen:Unbelievable. I'll never forget that night. Never, never, never forget that night. Drew, thanks for the time here. Big10.org slash Abbott to sign up and donate blood for your institution of higher learning in the Big 10. Purdue for the man on the right. Michigan, obviously, for the man on the left. Or you can text the word donate to 222-688, which spells out Abbott on your phone. Great to see you, man. Great to see you. I'd love to continue chatting. And obviously we're going to see on Netflix Christmas Day, right? In the booth? That's exactly right. Okay. You're going to be either in Washington or Minnesota.

41:02Rich Eisen:Dallas versus when do you find out this assignment? Do we already know? Hopefully soon. I'm ready for either of them. But, yeah, I'm just excited to be in the booth on Netflix Christmas Day. Lions versus Vikings or Cowboys commanders. Great stuff. Drew, great to see you. Best of your fan, man. Thank you. You too, Richard. Ladies and gentlemen, Drew Brees, everybody here on the Rich Eisen Show. I'll never forget that night. I will never, ever forget that night. We were all there from NFL Network, and I remember Marshall Falk, Mr. New Orleans, the guy who once upon a time sold popcorn in that stadium.

41:40Rich Eisen:He says to me, and Steve Mariucci, game's over. Let's go grab some dinner. Let's go hang out. Marshall Faulk, Mr. New Orleans is saying I will be your social Sherpa after one of the biggest nights in the history of New Orleans please finish this story and Mariucci says I'm tired I'm probably just going to go back to the hotel and have room service what an epic fail and I said to Mooch, Marshall will attest I said to Mooch you know what Steve, makes sense next time there's a storm of the century that damn near blows this entire place off the map and then you come back and it's a big reopening that starts with a block punt that no one's ever going to forget then we'll go out

42:33Rich Eisen:we'll do it then next time and that wasn't enough he still went back and speaking of also going back Marshall will tell you the story I'll tell it Marshall because if he's ever watching this back, he's like, is Rich going to tell the rest part of the story? This was a Monday night game on ESPN. I'm standing on the sideline with Marshall watching the game. Security guard comes up and says to me, you've got to go. I'm like, what are you talking about? He goes, you don't have any proper credentials to be here. And I'm like, I showed my credential, not during the game. And he turns to Marshall. He can stay.

43:10And I'm like, we have the same credential.

43:13Rich Eisen:I understand he's Marshall Falk, but what gives somebody from ESPN complained that I was standing on the sideline, didn't want me in the shot. That person, I believe, once upon a time recently got called out by an individual. Oh, interesting. Who might rhyme with schmatch McAfee. As I found out subsequently. Well, that ain't going to happen anymore. You don't sign shoes anymore. That shoe shine box is a cardboard box. Our credentials are good here. Drinks are on the house. They're on the house. 844-204-RICH, number to dial here on the Rich Eisen Show.

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45:04Rich Eisen:Seattle is hosting New Orleans in a playoff game. Correct. In Seattle. And we played them earlier. Played them early. in the season. So it's not uncommon. We played them on Monday Night Football five weeks prior, and now we are back in the divisional round at Seattle. Only it's a little different. We're staying over across the water in Bellevue. And so the first thing in the morning when I get up is I have a waffle, you know, the whipped cream strawberries, and I'm flipping through the networks trying to get either ESPN or NFL Network. Who's going to give me the forecast? There's NFL Network. I got it.

45:43And they're going to these sites where the divisional games are going to be played. And they're talking about, this is sunny here, and then to Seattle, and they get to the Seahawks stadium, and I know that it's going to be, and you can see the wind. And I'm eating my waffle, and they pan down on Russell Wilson and Drew Brees throwing a football. on the field in their graves. I'm going to tell you where I'm supposed to be at that moment when they're throwing a football. I am supposed to be meeting with the officials, discussing the inactives, all right, and getting ready to say the Lord's Prayer and give our players a pep dive.

46:25That's where I'm supposed to be at that moment. I stumble out of the bed. This is my worst nightmare. I know I'm a half an hour away from the stadium, and I'm thinking to myself, National anthem. I'm in my underwear late to the game. Right? That's the nightmare that I had. Wow. And I just saw Breeze and Russell Wilson warming up. And I run to the shower, call my assistant, can't get him. The waffle is spilled on the floor. I get back. My assistant says, hey, what's up? And I said, when did the buses leave? No one called. He said, coach, the buses haven't left yet. They had taken B-roll from the Monday night game.

47:06Rich Eisen:Someone in the tape room ran the wrong tape. Can you imagine? I text Falk. He's on set with Rich. I said, what are you guys doing? I had a cow. I'm telling you, you have no idea. We're talking about being like, this is the divisional playoff game, not being there for the kickoff as the head coach. That's how late I was. And Sean, just Marshall showing me the text. We went back and forth. I arrived. This guy now is live on the field, and I peek out at the stadium only because of the conditions. And I take a look, and Rich says, good to have Sean Payton here at the stadium. Just some slight comment that not one person is going to understand until we tell this story.

47:53Amazing.

47:55Rich Eisen:True story that happened. That's so good. True story that happened. Sean Payton, one of my favorites, man. go way back with him. When they won the Super Bowl, here's a story as well. He came to the set and was so amped that he didn't shake hands. I extended my hand to shake hands. He slapped it. And he slapped it so hard I got a stinger. I'm serious. It went right up to my elbow and I couldn't feel from my elbow down in my hand for the first five minutes of the interview. I'm not kidding. Thankfully, I went to the left hand. I didn't feel my hand was buzzing. I didn't feel it. Fired up. And he was fired up, but he also loves Marshall because he was Marshall's position coach at San Diego State when Marshall was having his Heisman robbed by Gino Toretta.

48:51Rich Eisen:Back on the Rich Eisen Show radio network, 844-204-RICH-NEMOTADAL. Guess what? Don't call in right now. because is there anybody manning the phones right now, Adam? I don't think so. Okay, very good. Adam Chudwin is here, our call screener. If you call in, this is the first voice that you hear. And you want to play the win-loss game for the Chicago Bears? I do. At this point last year, I was in this chair, and the Bears made me look like an absolute fool for my prediction. Well, this happens every year, but let's do it. We have the end of the hour. Adam Chudwin's annual win-loss game for his beloved Chicago Bears.

49:29Rich Eisen:I predicted 12-5 last year. We went 5-12, but I'm so optimistic. I'm not going to let that dampen my enthusiasm. Okay, what happens on Monday night football against the Minnesota Vikings? Big game, divisional rival J.J. McCarthy. First game, comes back to the Chicagoland area, but guess what? The Bears open up the playbook. You see what Ben Johnson has to offer, and the Bears get a first big win. Okay, we only have about a minute and 45 seconds to go. At the Lions, what else? What's next? I think the Lions win the NFC and we take the loss in that. One and one home for the Cowboys. Sorry, TJ. We're getting the win.

50:05Rich Eisen:Yes! Let's go! Two and one at the Raiders. Vegas vacation for all the Chicago people. We dominate that stadium and we get the win. All right, into the bye. Three and one come out at the Commanders on Monday Night Football. Rematch. You're giving me PTSD, Richard, last year. I know. I think we take a loss again, unfortunately. Three and two home for the Saints. That's a win. 4-2 at the Ravens. That's a tough game. That's a loss. 4-3 at the Bengals. I think we surprised the Bengals and upset them. 5-3, a little high register. Home for the Giants. I don't think the Giants are going to be good, although I do think Abdul Carter will be amazing this year, but the Bears win.

50:43Rich Eisen:6-3 at the Vikings. That's a tough game. I think we take the loss there. 6-4, home for the Steelers. This game I think I care about more than any game the entire season. I get it. We have to beat Aaron Rodgers. I get that. So you do. And we do beat Aaron Rodgers. 7-4 at the Eagles after Thanksgiving. Another brutal game. We take a loss. 7-5 at the Packers. Yeah, Packers. We beat them there last year. It was awesome. And I don't think it happens again, though. I think we lose this game. 7-6 now. Loss 3-4. Home for the Browns. There's 30 seconds left here. Win. Home for the Packers. We get our get back.

51:20Rich Eisen:We win. At the Niners. Win that game. Ooh. Home for the Lions. We finished the season strong with a win. With four straight wins. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven. Ooh! Let's go Adam. And six, Adam. Which means they're going six and eleven. Adam's cheering everybody. Thank you, thank you.

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Rich and the guys predict how the AFC South will shake out this season, discuss Spencer Rattler beating out rookie Tyler Shough to win the New Orleans Saints starting QB job, Anthony Richardson’s cloudy NFL future after losing the Indianapolis Colts’ QB competition, and Dillon Gabriel being named the Browns backup quarterback to starter Joe Flacco over fellow rookie Shedeur Sanders.

Future Pro Football Hall of Famer Drew Brees tells Rich his impressions of Texas Longhorns QB Arch Manning, what Broncos QB Bo Nix is learning from Super Bowl-winning head coach Sean Payton, what it was like to witness Steve Gleason’s momentous blocked punt for the Saints in the Superdome’s first game following Hurricane Katrina, his involvement in the ‘We Give Blood’ blood drive efforts, and more.

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