Hour 1: 76ers Oust Celtics, ESPN’s Vincent Goodwill, plus RIP Yankees Legend John Sterling

20:37Rich Eisen:You know what? You know why he's always on the ground? He doesn't have any ligaments left, nor an appendix. It's all gone.

20:43Brockman:I mean, he's literally broken everything. How's he going to stand up? His face, his fingers, his hands. It's all gone. He used to have it. His body's pretty messed up.

20:51Rich Eisen:Now he's kind of like that wind puppet outside your car dealer. The car dealer, that big guy. He's going around. I don't have an appendix. I don't have any ligaments, but come buy a car. Unless you're from outside the greater Philadelphia area, now you're not allowed. They shouldn't be. That's so ridiculous. Look, I can't. Oh, God. I can't condone that. This is so amazing. Take that for data. Take that for data. It's going to be fun. Don't come down on your train ride, Nick Fan. You're not allowed. And they're so close. And it's based on your credit card address. How many people right now are going, screw it, 19 % of APR.

21:25Rich Eisen:It doesn't matter to me. I'm opening a credit card. I got a new address. That's happening. Yeah. That is for sure happening. You know what? You know what? I got a PO box One Nick Nurse Drive Lots of PO boxes That's where I live One Nick Nurse Drive Oh my god Is Chemical Bank still out there? You know where I live? I live on 12 Embiid Flop Lane Alright That's where I live 12 Embiid Flop Lane Wait a minute, what's that address? It's right there in Philadelphia Two tickets please

22:06Rich Eisen:could you imagine robin ficker you're not allowed to come because you're too loud you yell at us and you're not from philadelphia what happened to these what happened we used to be a tougher minded society oh you're not allowed oh you new yorkers we used to be mental you turn our home court advantage into a home court disadvantage in this country the rams won a Super Bowl.

22:31Brockman:That's football. That's different.

22:32Rich Eisen:In a home game for the other team. I wanted on the record I was at that game. I did not sell my ticket. Come on.

22:39Brockman:TJ, I sold my ticket. I mean, we could be talking about the matchup. Vincent Goodwill. I gotta send him to Zoom. Let's take a break.

22:46Rich Eisen:He knows how to get on this program. Vince, come help. Come on, Vinny. That's next. This is the Rich Ives. For the sake of the Rich Ives.

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25:05Rich Eisen:um vince goodwill is going to be joining us in a short amount of time i i uh we we have invited him and uh we'll see uh uh how quickly we can get him on the zoom line um man that that finish By the way, I don't know what the hell happened with the Rockets, the Magic, right? Having one of the – and then the Magic missed 23 straight shots in game. They didn't score for 45 minutes of real time. Of real time. They were up 22 at the half. Right. And lost by more than 10. Right. And then whoever's in charge of their social account started posting as if the game was over at halftime. Oh, geez. I don't understand.

25:59Rich Eisen:And then the Rockets in game six fell asleep. And the Hawks. The Hawks in game six. And the Rockets in game six. And the Magic in game six. All home teams had some of the worst offensive halves we have ever seen in basketball, let alone playoff basketball. Is it because of the three-point shot? Is that what it is? Let's keep hoisting them. Let's keep doing it. Let's see. What were their numbers? It's so bad. It's bad. And then in the middle of it, you had that corker of a game six that went to overtime in Toronto. R.J. Barrett hit that shot off the heel of the backboard that made the Tyrese Halliburton version of it in Madison Square Garden from the previous year look like a finger roll.

26:53Well, didn't Halliburton retweet like that looks familiar or something?

26:57Rich Eisen:Yeah, that's lovely. Yeah, the Rockets were 5 for 28 from 3. It's just, it's tough, man. 5 for 28? That's so bad. It's tough. once you start falling down, you can't, and the threes aren't falling. You know what I mean? Yeah. Let's see. The Hawks were nine for 35. Terrible. In that game. And what was the other one? Oh, the Orlando one. Let's see. Yeah.

27:31Rich Eisen:So Vince Goodwill's coming on the show right now. I'm sorry. We're just making sure that he's available and he is. And we'll get him set situated. because I mean Jamal Mosley we had Jamal Mosley on the show last year as the Magic were beginning to take off and that's pretty harsh you're up three games to one and you're moving forward and it looks like you might beat the Pistons and you can't do a damn thing otherwise and now you're out unfortunately I think this was kind of writing on the wall just on how the regular season went I mean obviously blowing the 3-1 doesn't help but I think he was going to be kind of bounced before they blew it all right joining us here on the rich eyes and show kind enough to to zoom in um here uh on a monday program even though he's um outside the philadelphia area we're still allowing him on the program uh vince goodwill here on the show good to see you vince how are you sir good to see you finally finally what's going on rich how are you good to see you man thanks for taking the time here um what's your takeaway from this weekend's um action we'll go macro first what's your takeaway at now that the first round is in the books vincent man it was long wasn't it felt like the first round started like a month ago for one um gotta do something about that but i think it's the first round of surprises i think maybe the pendulum is swinging back as opposed to three-point shooting all the great three-point shooting teams are gone and even though that's a great thing for the league from an entertainment standpoint maybe we're looking at it and saying it doesn't win uh also 3-1 deficits are not as difficult to come back from as they used to be I feel like now with the way that the seven game series work out and injuries and everything else and sometimes just talent catching up I heard you talking about Jamal Mosley and the Orlando Magic that was kind of predictable to me the Philadelphia 76ers coming up back from the Boston Celtics was not so I just think there's a lot to take away from the first round as a whole.

29:29I'm just kind of excited that we can get to the eight best teams in the league now and kind of have the adult conversations now.

29:36Rich Eisen:Well, I mean, you take a look at the way that the Sixers advanced and the way that the Sixers and Knicks hammered each other the last time they made the playoffs. This is a fascinating matchup. I'll give you the floor about what you think it comes down to, Vincent. Well, hopefully that's why ESPN put me on this Knicks 76ers series that I'll be chronicling for hopefully seven games. The rivalry part of it, I think, is really interesting. The Joel Embiid, Carl Towns of it. The Joel Embiid, Mitchell Robinson of. Remember a couple of years ago, Mitchell Robinson got dragged down by Embiid on the floor, wound up missing the rest of that series.

30:18Embiid has had some really big games against the Knicks in the playoffs. Don't forget about this. It's Paul George, a new equation to this whole 76ers-Knicks rivalry, along with BJ Edgecombe. Tyrese Maxey has put up big numbers against the Knicks as well. I know a lot of people are looking at the 76ers and saying, this is the most talented team in the Eastern Conference. Like top to bottom, you know, especially from the top line, the top four or five guys, especially if Embiid is healthy. But I wonder do they have enough sweat equity. I wonder if the grind of the playoffs is going to catch them.

30:53there is no additional days off, Rich. You're playing seven games in 14 days, and you're still wearing the cologne of the Boston Celtics right now. I wonder about the emotion of coming back from 3-1 and every game being an elimination game and then having to start over with a new team in your face. That's been waiting and has been playing markedly better starting from game four of that series against the Atlanta Hawks. The Knicks are being as confident as they could be coming into a series like this. And Philadelphia, to me, I wonder how their emotional tank, is it going to be filled? Is it going to be full?

31:30Or are they still going to be wearing the residue of that great comeback from that series? The first two games, I'm not sure if we're going to know anything about either one of these teams. I think we're going to find out something about games three and four.

31:42Rich Eisen:Well, I appreciate, to use your analogy, Vincent, the cologne that the Sixers are wearing. the cologne, I guess, according to Jalen Brown, is called flopper that Embiid is wearing. A little bit here, a little bit there. And on behalf of Knicks fans, it's great to have that placed in the mind's eye or in any way, shape, or form with the officials calling this series. And I'm sure that will be part of the pregame conversation before game one tonight. What's your opinion of Jalen Brown's statement based on your conversations with folks around the league that flopping has become a massive issue in the NBA.

32:25Rich Eisen:And the NBA has got to be sitting around going, great, now the regular season's over, we're done with tanking, now we're on to flopping. But what do you make of those comments, Vincent? It is rich in everyday conversation, in everyday discussion that officials have with the league office, that the players have with each other, that the officials for teams have with its players. Like I said on Get Up this morning that part of this is us. And by us, I don't mean me because I'm only 41. I'm talking about the people older than me who thought basketball was too physical and who thought that the NBA needed to clean it up.

33:01And what has happened is the pendulum has swung so far in the other direction that the players have realized all I have to do is pretend I got touched and like a sniper hit me and go down. and the official will call it a foul just because they want to keep the game in order. You want to get guys to the free throw line. You want to get guys scoring. You want to keep that scoreboard moving because they were under the belief that fans wanted offense. Fans wanted competitiveness. And I think that was a slight miscalculation on the league's part. That's why I think you see, Rich, basketball in the regular season looks like an exhibition compared to the playoffs.

33:39It looks like a completely different sport in the way that it's played, in the way that it's officiated. And yes, Jalen Brown has started this unfortunate conversation, though. Nobody really likes having, we'll put it like this. Nobody wants to hear that from the Boston Celtics. Nobody wants to hear that from Jalen Brown in the aftermath of blowing the 3-1 lead. Nobody wants to hear that from the team that takes far more threes than twos. What would they know about somebody flopping? They stand outside the three-point line all day. That's what people would be saying. Not saying that Jalen Brown doesn't have the case because Joel Embiid hits the floor a whole lot when it seems like there's very minimal contact.

34:15And for the sake of your New York Knicks, Rich Eisen, it is a great conversation to be having. And that was Madison Avenue and Olympic Tower right down the street from Madison Square Garden.

34:25Rich Eisen:Vincent Goodwill right here on the Rich Eisen Show prior to the Knicks and Sixers series that he's covering for ESPN, the NBA senior writer here on the Rich Eisen Show. So now a lot of folks for weeks, months, Spurs and the Thunder are going to be in the Western Conference Finals. You could put that in Sharpie. However, now that we have reached the second round, you've got a Lakers team and a Timberwolves team that are without stars to potentially throw a wrench into all of that. What's the scoop with Luka and Anthony Edwards? And are the Lakers and Timberwolves respectively going to have to go through the second round without them?

35:04Well, I think the Lakers and Timberwolves are in two totally different situations. I don't think Luka Doncic is close at all to getting back on the floor. My colleague Brian Wynor said that they haven't even begun the ramp-up phase of Luka Doncic. And when you're talking about a hamstring, you've got to be very, very careful about it. I know we don't think of the hamstring in the ways that we think of knees and some other ligaments, but the Lakers have to make a 10-year investment in Luka Doncic. And there are some players throughout the course of history who, once they messed up their hamstring and they tore it, they never got that quickness, that pop back.

35:39So I think the Lakers have to be careful there. For Minnesota, Anthony Edwards coming back is a little bit of the raisin and potato salad for people who want to see the Spurs and the Thunder playing the Western Conference Finals. Because I think they can be spoilers. I think the Timberwolves have made the Western Conference Finals. I think, I know. They made the Conference Finals the last two years. usually when that happens, that means we're expecting you to take the next step, especially when you have a superstar as great and as charismatic as Anthony Edwards. And as much as he looks like a certain baldhead superstar that we've seen decades ago, usually the pressure would shift, but somehow it hasn't, probably because of that seven foot alien.

36:20But when you look at the Timberwolves, the fact that they play the style that they play, they beat up on the Denver Nuggets, a team that we thought was going to give the San Antonio Spurs the requisite second round tune-up. They've once again outplayed a more favored opponent in the first round or second round. They've always seemed to be in this underdog status. And I don't think that they're too uncomfortable with going into San Antonio in this series with a hobbled or recovering Anthony Elvigin feeling like we can steal a game or two and make this really uncomfortable for them because they have the requisite experience to do so.

36:58I don't think they're nervous at all.

37:00Rich Eisen:Well, apparently you might be pushing to play a little bit earlier. Our colleague Shams is saying he's at a shoot around on this very morning. And by the way, in case you're wondering, I did understand that food reference that you just recently. Rich, I wouldn't say it if I did not think you could catch it. I figured you were catching what I was putting down. I caught it. Why are you laughing, TJ? Yeah, you know I was going to catch something like that. I believe I had some effect on you to understand. Okay. And I guess last one for you before we get out of Dodge here. The Jamal Mosley firing, you're saying that that's something you could have seen coming.

37:39Rich Eisen:And I understand Giannis is Giannis. But is there, take a look at what the Magic are building. Would you say the Magic is potentially a more attractive job? And could Golden State's job come open as well, Vincent? What do you think? That is an interesting thing. I think on a number of levels. Let's talk about Golden State for one. I wonder if Steve Kerr wants to go year to year. And if the Golden State Warriors franchise, if Joe Lake of the owner, wants to have a more firm commitment. Steve Kerr could want to go year to year to line himself up with Stephen Curry's contract in his age. Steph has a year left.

38:16Draymond has an option. Like those are the things I don't think Steve Kerr wants to go through an extended rebuild. Let's say Steve Kerr wants to go year to year. Let's say the Golden State Warriors don't want that. They want to have more stability. That's where some friction could happen. Ultimately, I think both sides will line up for at least one more year. Now, the Orlando magic is an interesting one. Usually when you fire a coach a day after being eliminated in the playoffs where you're without your second best player, where you took an unexpected 3-1 lead against the best team in a conference and you start to rebound a little bit and give team, give the league the impression that you were the team that people thought you were in the preseason, usually that means the organization wanted to fire you.

38:58And they didn't fire you because you lost a 3-1 lead. They fired you because they wanted to. They fired you because this was all in the plan and there was probably going to be very little to nothing Jamal Mosley could have done about that. I know that it probably put a strain on J.D. Bickerstaff staff because that's one of his, if not his best friend, but that's the business of basketball. And I do think Jamal Mosley will be in high demand when the next coaching cycle comes around for teams like New Orleans and who knows what happens with Dallas and some of these other teams. I don't think he'll be out of a job long.

39:28I do think Orlando with their young players, I do think that's an attractive job, a more attractive job than Milwaukee because you don't know Giannis' future. You don't know about his health. You don't know about the direction of the organization. So usually when you want to take a job, you want to take a job that's trending upward rather than a job that's trading water.

39:46Rich Eisen:Did I get all that in for you? It's great. Awesome. And I really appreciate you hopping in here, you know, in the first hour of the program. I'd love to have you back on, certainly, as this series keeps going and the playoffs keep going. As you know, when a guest cancels, it's like bacon in the matzo ball soup. And, you know, what? I've seen Seinfeld before. I got you. I got you. Just making my own food reference. Okay. I got you. Sorry, Rich, that it looks like I'm in a padded room. I assure you I'm not a hostage anywhere. No, you're not. The void. No, no. Again, you're just not from the Philadelphia area, so you're not allowed to be in that series.

40:30Rich Eisen:Oh, I'm told it's in New York, so it doesn't matter. Okay. Is that real, though? Did the Sixers really do that? Where they're like, you can't be from, if you're outside of Philadelphia, you can't buy tickets. through us they did that yes they absolutely did but guess what rich what there's called a secondary market and in the words of the million dollar man everybody's got a price vincent goodwill everybody right here on the show thank you vincent really appreciate you guys vince goodwill go follow him everybody's got a price be tough to follow him on this program but jeff passin will do so in

41:03Brockman:our number two um that was great it is true rich by the way what is true what we were thinking about the secondary mark. Yeah, I tried to buy a ticket and the message popped up and it was... From the Sixers, correct? Yeah. On the NBA side, yeah. From the 76ers. You know what? Soft. Xfinity Mobile Arena is located in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Sales to this event will be restricted to the residents of the greater Philadelphia area. Residency will be based on credit card billing address and orders by residents outside the Philadelphia area. You ask Elton Brand, could only people from Durham, right, buy tickets?

41:47Rich Eisen:You think Elton Brand, this has something to do with him? Daryl Morey? Oh, Daryl Morey.

41:52Brockman:Come on now. What's going on? I'm hoping these guys have something better to do than do this.

41:58Rich Eisen:You know, only Clipper Darryl could buy tickets to Elton's time, right? All right, we'll take a break. We come back. We pay our respects. Don't go anywhere.

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44:08Rich Eisen:the rich eisen show the podcast eisen show um all too often in this job I spend time eulogizing, memorializing people who I followed and fanboyed on in this profession, whether it's an athlete or it's a broadcaster. and in the case this is a broadcaster those who have taken in this show for as long as you have hopefully um for as long as i hope you have know that i'm a yankee fan and a diehard one and i follow the team 1977 78 76 is the first year i can remember being a yankee fan and rooting for the team so um to be on espn and sports center when the yankees started making the world series in the joe tory dynastic years was a blessing and you know obviously uh try to be professional and i got to meet so many people in that process and one of them was john sterling the longtime voice of the new york yankees who could not have been nicer could not have been more welcoming and could not have been more gentlemanly to me.

45:37Rich Eisen:And Susie, I might add, because Susie was covering at the time during some of those years out in Southern California. And she got a chance to also meet John when she was working on the Sunday Morning Sports Center doing a bunch of feature pieces. And you want to talk about old school throwbacks. Somebody synonymous with the team. I always remember seeing him in his sport coat with the pocket square cupping his ear, calling the action. An old school broadcaster. 5 ,420 regular season games, 211 postseason games. He called a lot of them with Michael K. or the current voice of the Yankees. He, we want to talk about a Lou Gehrig streak that won't be broken.

46:26Rich Eisen:5 ,060 consecutive games he called. 5 ,060. 24 postseason trips, seven World Series, five World Series titles, he called. And including the one that was so near and dear to me, because again, I remember being a kid in 1978, and then not seeing another one again until 1996, when he made the call of the Yankees winning the World Series. The stretch, and pitch, swung on and popped up again, off third, Hayes has room, Hayes makes the catch! Yankees win. The Yankees win. The New York Yankees have won the 1996 World Series. They have surmounted every challenge. They have climbed every mountain. And the New York Yankees are world champions.

47:24Rich Eisen:When you're a broadcaster, you obviously want to be remembered for your excellence. And you also just want to be remembered for being the companion. The number of people probably sitting around alone, sitting around in a car, sitting around at home saying, you know, I'm going to turn the radio call on. John was their best friend. their best friend a companion somebody that you could share these moments with and he always broadcast with that ear towards you he always gave his opinions and he always would talk about the Yankees in a way that I think pissed off a lot of the opposing fans but he was always a gentleman in that regard and a professional, a true professional.

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