Hour 1: Bills-Texans Recap, Joe Burrow’s Status, plus Actor Jake Lacy In-Studio

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1:33Rich Eisen:This is the Rich Eisen Show Live from the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles Today's gasps Actor Jake Lacey NFL Network insider Tom Pelissero Plus your phone calls and more And now, it's Rich Eisen.

2:25Rich Eisen:uh espn radio presented by progressive insurance hello to that audience as well as sirius xm channel 80 and to all the podcast listeners all three hours available every day how you get such shows we greatly appreciate everybody who hits us with a subscription there or subscribe to our youtube channel as well youtube.com slash rich eisen show uh just had a very nice chat with jake lacy chris brockman you're about to get a plus one and the patriot fandom here in the studio. The actor, Jake Lacey, many of you may know his work from the White Lotus or when he was the new Jim on The Office. And he's in a terrific show, All Her Fault, available now for streaming exclusively on Peacock, an eight episode series with a terrific cast.

3:09Rich Eisen:He's going to come out here and be first up on this program today. Tom Pellicero will join us in the middle of this program on a what's more likely Friday as well to tell us if Joe Burrow is going to start. News just flashed out of New Jersey Interestingly enough Jackson Dart Is not going to play this week Oh So we got lots to talk about on this program 844-204-RICH Number to dial We've already said hello to Chris Brockman Hello Jason Feller What's up Jay Felly What's up Rich Good to see you TJ Jefferson Is the candle lit over there? I see it's already out What's going on? It was lit And the wick was small So now it's out So we gotta work on that Yeah we do Gotta work on that I got another one over here Sounds like a wide pick I will place it when I'm off.

3:53Rich Eisen:That is the worst John Wick sequel I've ever heard of. What's up, fellas? Good to see him. Listen, we start this show with some breaking news. I've been told Josh Allen just got sacked again. And wait a minute. And he just got sacked again. Yeah, okay. I'm getting real-time updates from this. Yeah, yeah. Oh, my word. Hey, Houston Texans fans, your team, once upon a time, 0-3. Not anymore. They're above.500. The Ravens aren't the only team that has been roosting atop its division that has been coming on strong. Davis Mills will talk about the Texans later on. I'm sorry, Texans fans. But you gotta start with the Buffalo Bills team that is on a rollercoaster right now, man.

4:43Rich Eisen:One week, they beat the Chiefs to go 6-2. Then they go down to Miami and they They lay what is known as a big fat egg. And then they wind up bringing the Bucks, a big helping and heaping serving of a 40 bird on a plate. And Josh Allen scores three times on the ground, three times in the air, and you're wondering why that day? Because I was going against him in fantasy. Of course.

5:16Rich Eisen:44-32 final. to score Gami this. And then five days later, they're now seven and three, feeling good about themselves, and they go into Houston, and it's Saka Palooza. One after the other after the other. I believe this one on the screen, this photograph, Will Anderson Jr. He good. Landing on top of Josh Allen because Allen had stepped up in the pocket instead of taking off, trying to make a play down the field. gave Anderson just enough time to come up with one of his takedowns of Josh Allen that, believe it or not, was not one of his two-and-a-half sacks because— Two-and-a-half? Two-and-a-half.

6:00Rich Eisen:Seemed like he had 13. Two-and-a-half sacks, by the way. Great follow-up. Tell Ashton he's now out of that production. That's not a sack. That is not. It is not because his momentum pushed him to a two-yard gain, as a matter of fact. But it was not enough, nearly enough for a first down. And that was the moment where I texted Mike Hoskins, Rich Eisen's show coordinating producer, and the biggest Bills fan I know.

6:30Rich Eisen:Did you stop breathing for a second? He said his entire body went numb because Josh Allen looked like he had broken his hand or something. And then all of a sudden he gets up, pops up, goes back to the sidelines. His hands are fine. He's looking at the tablet. and I'm sure he's looking at the tablet going, yep, sacked again. He might have been like, how did you have 13 guys? And by the way, it started great for the Bills with James Cook popping one on a third and short for the whole distance. Great opening drive. And when the Texans put their foot down and started to gain some traction of their own, I guess Ray Davis was watching my conversation with Luke Russert in support of his Hallmark movie about the Buffalo Bills saying Ray Davis was in it.

7:16Rich Eisen:I'm like, oh, it's just the latest example of Ray Davis in when you expect James Cook to be. But this was on special teams. Took that personal. I mean, a spin move on a kick return to give the Bills the lead right back, but then the Texans march down the field, take the lead back again. Allen threw a pick. Yeah, he did, because he had to be all over the place with his head and his mind and his eyes and everything because, good Lord, the Texans tying their single-game franchise record with eight sacks. Last time they had that was week 12 last year. Tennessee Titans fans may remind that. They also had eight sacks in the final game of 2015 as well.

8:03Rich Eisen:The only team with more sacks in the game this season, the Denver Broncos against the Jets. I saw it. I called it. It was in London. Can confirm. And the Buffalo Bills now up and down, up and down. Second full game with zero offensive touchdowns in 2025. He only had one in his MVP season last year, Josh Allen. This is coming off a game in which he personally scored six or had a hand in six. And the Bills fall to now 2-7 in Allen's career when he has zero offensive touchdowns. Consecutive games with two interceptions for the first time in three seasons. But the worst thing was, you know, it was right there still.

8:51Rich Eisen:They ran a hook and ladder. That was unbelievable. On fourth and forever. On fourth and forever. And they convert on a hook and ladder. Khalil Shakir in the fourth quarter was making moves that was ridiculous and the Bills had a chance to go down and tie the game and as a matter of fact, you know, maybe they go for two right? Maybe they go for two or they have a tie they missed a PAT they would have won it, my bad yeah, they missed a PAT in their first touchdown so that was also another mistake that was coming home to Roos they couldn't just kick a field goal which, by the way, they would have had an opportunity to kick that field goal to tie it off of that hook and ladder rather than a fourth down play that all the folks, at least on my Threads feed, was like, why would Josh Allen not throw it to a wide open tight end and try and force it into one-on-one coverage?

9:46Rich Eisen:It didn't matter anyway, because the reason why the tight end on that final play and that final interception was so wide open, it was an offensive pass interference call, so it didn't matter. That game was crazy. The referee got hurt. The referee, it looks like he blew out his Achilles. Oh, my God. So a cart comes out for the ref, but not for Josh Allen, who looked like he was done for the year, and then he pops back up, and the Bills are still in it. It was wild. Despite being sacked all those many times, and zero offensive touchdowns for Josh Allen.

10:21Rich Eisen:So the fourth down play call, though, where James Cook just ran it right into the middle of this defensive line, and then you look at Josh Allen saying, you know, what the F are we doing? And you could see Sean McDermott barking into his headset at somebody. I think we can find out who the somebody is. This was Josh Allen after the game on that subject matter, and that's what I think will linger in this mini-bye week for the Buffalo Bills. Hit it. I mean, just frustration on my part. You know, just, yeah, in a situation like that, probably should have just banged a timeout. Just getting, getting, we got to playing late.

11:06You know, didn't give ourselves a chance there.

11:08Rich Eisen:So you could see Josh Allen in the answer, you know, why were you saying what the F are we doing? You could see, he's like saying frustration on my part. You could see like if I give the answer that he eventually did get around to that we didn't get the play call in. in a timely fashion that that winds up on the lap of his offensive coordinator, who I would imagine is the individual on the business end of Sean McDermott's headset screed. Write that one down. Not a bad fantasy name. The avatar is the head coach of the Bills barking at somebody. and you know McDermott is the type of guy who wants to be the coach of the team that's sacking the other quarterback eight times and hitting him a dozen that's what he's about and without Ed Oliver and without you know the people that we've been used to seeing there in in Buffalo, and then seeing Deion Dawkins go in and out of the game, but also flailing at times, just as one of the five offensive linemen on the field to try and protect Josh Allen, who would step up in the pocket, and that's where usually he would take off or make a play, but that was where the second wave of either a rushing Texan or one of the Texans' rushers circling back.

12:41Rich Eisen:I mean, all of them are incredible. Hunter and Anderson, just to name two, obviously. My goodness gracious. They couldn't do a thing, McDermott, after the game, when he was asked if they got out-tuffed out of physical. Well, when they hit their quarterback 12 times, you know, that's – I don't like that. I don't like that stat at all. And it's not a healthy way to play or a healthy way to keep our quarterback healthy through the remainder of the season. So that's just not a good formula right there. Okay, so the Buffalo Bills who have, as you know, basically taken over the AFC East house and coming into this season and coming back on the Ravens to start the season and beating the Jets to start the season in New York and then beating Miami at home to start the season 3-0.

13:40Rich Eisen:and then go to New Orleans and have New Orleans come in, and it was a little dicey in before-and-oh. That team is now looking up at the New England Patriots, and they're two and a half games behind them. Two in the actual column here, but we all know the Patriots won that week five game to hand the Bills their first loss of the season, and they are, as of that moment, under.500 in the last two months of this campaign.

14:08Rich Eisen:so not looking good looking like if you look at the afc standings where the bills are the afc standings where the bills are now currently behind the chargers in the sixth seed right now it sure looks like the bills uh as the chargers are off this week they are now neck and neck uh looks like the bills are going to be i just went a little high register uh looks like the bills are going to be a wild card team and i don't know about i don't know about that why would you say that oh you mean you mean like falling out of the playoffs entirely yeah what you're saying yeah there's some i don't know man there's some teams catching fire but i understand that it's also a team that we saw what they did against the bucks and what they did against the chiefs and they have a tie break against the chiefs every time we always talk in there remember i told you that That Bills-Chiefs game was different than any of the other ones where everyone's like, well, it's just the regular season.

15:06Rich Eisen:Let's see what happens when they face each other in the postseason. Well, that win might be the difference between the Bills making the postseason and the Chiefs not. Yeah, for sure. So, yeah. The two teams that you mentioned, like, they could fall out because other teams are coming. They've beaten the Ravens. They've beaten the Chiefs. Not bad. Problem is they now don't have a tie break with the Texans who might not win the division because the Colts are so damn good and in front of them. We'll talk about the AFC South in a minute, which is interestingly enough, the Chiefs could help matters for the Texans by beating the Colts, which would make things a little bit crazier in the AFC going into the Thanksgiving week.

15:52Rich Eisen:But it looks like right now the Bills are going to be a wild card team unless the wheels fall off the Patriots wagon. The Bills coming off of their mini buy have the Steelers next. They're in Pittsburgh before they face, yeah, it's going to be Joe Burrow because I think Burrow is coming back to take on the Patriots who the Bills would visit after that game. And then at Cleveland and home for the Jets, winnable games, obviously, with the Eagles coming in. And that may be must-have for both teams. Bills to either still have a shot at the division or stay in front of teams that are right there with them for a wild-card spot.

16:37And the Eagles might need it for a one seed,

16:42Rich Eisen:depending on what happens between now and then. But this is the way things are with six games left on the Buffalo Bills schedule after they started 4-0. Oh, and then they go three and four. And here's the final six. And they got to protect Josh Allen. This just in. My goodness gracious. I mean, the most important piece of China in their cupboard. And there were pieces all over the floor last night. And at one point, I thought Josh Allen was done for the night. So did Amazon Prime. My man T-Man, the producer. of Thursday Night Football. And that crew got a shot of Mitchell Trubisky with his helmet on real fast.

17:28Rich Eisen:And I think that may be exactly the moment when Mike Hoskins went numb. Because he didn't look like Osweiler. Let me get that helmet out there. No, he was like, I have to go in this game? Against those guys who were sacking everybody? Like 51. Wait a minute. I was told there would be no math on this test. Daniel Hunter? Okay. By the way, speaking of him, there are some big boys on that Texans defense, man. We'll talk about that later on. We've got that on the docket. We've got an ovary out. Pardon me. We've got a what's more likely Friday. My other games in week 12 that I'm looking forward to seeing.

18:07Rich Eisen:We've got Tom Pellicero with the information on is Joe Burrow going to be playing or not. The best ability that he's got is his availability as we know. And he could be available against the Patriots. T. Higgins is a great soundbite on that front that we're going to play for you at the end of the first hour. But let's take a break and bring out the actor Jake Lacey, his first appearance on the Rich Eisen show. It's going to be a lot of fun. Again, plus one on the Patriots coming up. Let's go.

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20:08But ultimately, you're reading that script as kind of the bedrock of what you're building off of. At no point was I on set. You know, in Chapter 6, actually, this happens. I don't know if we want to drill set. I should do it this way.

20:23Rich Eisen:Plus, what a great cast, too. Jay Ellis, who we saw in the clip. He's been here as well. Same thing with Michael Peña. We'll tell you he's a better golfer than he is an actor, whatever. He would spend so much time on say he'd be like my knees all messed up because the way that I swing I can't seem I'm about to roll dude like I'm not lying then right I mean He flew in I hadn't met him yet we get we're like we've been there for 24 hours or whatever We're both jet lagged as hell and I get there I go you done a fitting or whatever he goes no I just came from the golf course like he flew in and they drove him to play 18 holes and then he's like, it helps me get over the jet lag.

21:03I was like, okay, dude. What? I love it. What? I love it. He's fully committed.

21:08Rich Eisen:What an excuse that? I got to use that. Okay. Yeah, that's great. So I'm working so hard and I'm so jet lagged, I got to play golf. Oh, and you got to, I got to. Look, I'd love to come straight home. I'd love to, but I'll be useless to you. Dakota Fanning in this as well. I mean, my goodness. And Sarah Snook, all her fault available now for streaming exclusively on Peacock. eight episode series. Let's talk about kids who are found. Uh, Drake may. Oh dude. Right. By the way, I love your reaction. Oh, so stoked, dude. Okay. So now you're, you're born in Massachusetts, raised in Vermont. Yeah. Okay.

21:45Rich Eisen:And so Patriot fans since birth. Yeah. Full on. Now we live in Connecticut. Like, well, that's the Mason Dixon line of New York, Boston sports brother. I lived in Brooklyn for a long time. I'd be repping socks, hats everywhere. NYPD guys giving me dirty looks on the platform you know like just not a lot of love there right and now we're in connecticut and you know like my kids play hockey they're little they're like six and eight they're just getting going okay and it's like rangers junior like learn to play and all the kids are out there and like rangers get up you're right and they were like we can get them a jersey and i was like now we're gonna keep the bruins ones on that's all right thanks so like It's just two little like Bruins kids out there You know skating around in a sea Of like red and blue But at least we're far enough out in Connecticut Now that people are like alright Like it's technically New England Right so you're east of Hartford Is that where you are?

22:41Rich Eisen:No we're like we're in Weston If anyone wants the address I spent seven years at ESPN So I know exactly Again like 20 minutes north of Westport Right, yeah. So you need to, if you're West, you're closer to New York, so that's why. It's understandable. I get why there's a lot of Yankees fans out there. Okay. I do feel like there's, I mean, people rightfully so should be a little embarrassed to be Giants and Jets fans, so I don't see a lot of that being repped wherever we are, you know what I mean? Just get your freak flag fly, Jake Lacey, okay? No, but you have every right to feel really good about what's happening.

23:22Rich Eisen:It's unbelievable. It's so cool. Chris, I love that reaction here where I just mentioned Drake Ney, and you're like, oh, dude. Oh, somebody was calling him Drake Maybe for the first couple games, and I was like, watch it, dude. Just watch what happens. Drake Maybe. I hadn't heard that one. Cousin Sal came up with Drake Maybe. Oh, okay. That's not a bad one. I like that. Well, since he came up with Drake Maybe, he's won eight in a row. Yeah, but he's gone on a tear. It's where it's worked out. Enjoy those words, my man. Just dig in. And he's gotten – he's in sights of a record that Dan Marino set for a certain age to win as many games in a row with a passer rating as great as it's been.

24:03Rich Eisen:That's right. See, he's tracking down something that Marino did in 1984, which is – I was looking at, like, what the next three games are. They're winnable games. Well, Cincinnati – Jake, they're all winnable. We're moving on to Cincinnati. at him. Burrow's taking reps, right? He's got some snaps going. He's taking reps. I think he's playing. You think he's going? So Zach Taylor just said that there's no distinction. They're going to wait as long as possible. They have until 4 o 'clock tomorrow to remove him and put him on the activist. But he's questionable right now. You know, let me ask you this question.

24:35Rich Eisen:How do you think it's going right in New England right now when somebody says to Vrabel they won't say if they're playing Burrow or not? Do you think he's losing sleep about getting ready for flacco instead i mean joe cool okay you know yeah borrow come but this is okay let's linger on your pats here for a minute because they are they are they look terrific and they are set it's so exciting they are 100 percent set so did you go to foxborough when there were just the old you know metal seats and stuff like that or that was that was still by the time i got to go to a game it was cleaned up okay but like i used to go to fenway as a kid and there was still i guess it's still there but like the urinals are just a trough you know it's like ancient rome stuff like that yeah yeah and like that was before you could sit on the monster and things like that or like um you know before td garden you know just like some of that old kind of scuzzy Boston sports.

25:39Fleet Center. Fleet Center. I was born in 86, so like as a kid got the tail end of being like a losing region and then the insanity of the Celtics, the Bruins, the Pats, like winning in the same year. Parades everywhere, man. Yeah. Again, are you an obnoxious Patriots fan, New England fan?

26:03Rich Eisen:Be honest, Jake. No, I don't know. Are you a mass hole or not? No, no, no, no. No, I'm not that far gone. But like I did. We had this discussion in the house. Like, you know, my wife is from Eastern PA and then grew up in Jacksonville, you know, after she was 10. So like the Jaguars are also like kicking around in our house a little bit. OK. But we're, you know, boys are born in New York and we're living there. And and she was like, let them let them like support whatever team they want. And I was like, they can be whatever they want in this world. They can do whatever they want, love whoever they love.

26:40I don't care. But like, it's a non-negotiable. This is a Boston house. Like, I don't know what to tell you. They're Sox fans. Like, there's just no other way this is going to work out. Like, genuinely, whoever they want to be, whoever they are, let's support it. But like, this is what's happening. And it's worked out. You know what I mean?