Hour 1: Caleb Williams and Jayden Daniels Injuries, plus Saints and Deshaun Watson Reactions

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2:24Rich Eisen:Well, hey, everybody. Welcome to this edition of the Rich Eisen Show. Otherwise known as Rich Eisen Show is going to Rich Eisen Show. Certainly on a Monday. And the Rich Eisen production crew is up and running over Reaction Monday. Chris Brockman and I have recorded it. Let's go. YouTube.com slash Rich Eisen Show for the latest episode or however you get your podcast. Marcus Spears, who is in town for Monday Night Countdown, the Week 2 game between the Giants and the Rams on Monday Night Football on the ESPN Disney family of networks. He's going to be here in person, top of our number two. You threw out at 844-204-RICH, number to dial right here.

3:05Rich Eisen:Great weekend in college football. LSU and Ole Miss was as great an atmosphere as you can imagine in college football. And that game did not disappoint, to say the least. We'll talk about it again throughout this three-hour show. So good to see you over there, Chris Brockman. Hey, Rich, what's up, man? TJ Mikey D is in these nuts. Good to see you, sir. Go Rams. TJ Jefferson candle lighted up. Is it candle lit? Candle's lit. The quote to Bengals, just another manic Monday. I didn't see that one coming. Let's get it. I didn't see that one coming. I guess your head's got to be on a swivel. All right.

3:36Rich Eisen:Let's talk Mahomes. Wait a minute. Sorry. I could do that better. Hold on a minute. Oh, come on. Oh, really? He's right. You're doing the slides. That's it. Let's talk Mahomes. You got to do it like, let's talk about Patrick Mahomes. Hey, listen. He's the man, bro. For Collinsworth, he's just in a bad spot because everybody thinks all he's going to do is glaze Mahomes. And then Patrick Mahomes shows up in the first six days of his 2026 season looking like he didn't miss a beat. He didn't have a single thing repaired in his leg. I mean, he looks as good as he's ever looked, and you've got to give it up to him.

4:25I understand Chiefs fatigue still exists in this country in a significant way. There really isn't a pill for it. There should be. We've got a pill for everything. There's nothing. Yeah, but look at the side effects of the pills. It'll kill you. Everybody's got to take a pill if you have Chiefs fatigue because guess what? But they are back. And they had a significant opponent in their building last night in a desperate Indianapolis Colts team, desperate to prove week one was an outlier,

5:01Rich Eisen:desperate to prove that they have a championship squad, desperate to take this national TV audience and show everybody all of the above. And they did. Jonathan Taylor is as good as there is. I know Mike Tomlin said that K-9 was the best back in the game. I'll push back on that. I know Kenneth Walker looks terrific. He does. But Jonathan Taylor is as good as he's ever been, and he was running away from people. I know those touchdown runs that he had were on the plus side of the field. If the blocking was the same way on any part of the field, he'd have run it in from 80 yards out the way that he was going.

5:44and Daniel Jones was making plays and bless the Colts, Alec Pierce gets hurt after just a catch and who the heck knows when he's going to come back. But the Chiefs took hits from Indianapolis and kept absorbing them and kept throwing it back in their direction. And this game goes into overtime. Even with Mahomes going off, looking like the way that he looked and Travis Kelsey looking the way that he looks. And Kenneth Walker looking the way he looks. And the defense looking the way it looks, even though they were giving up yards and points. And in overtime, you know,

6:33Rich Eisen:when the Colts won the toss, and Cam Bynum, you know, gave the sign of, I defer. And Mahomes is like, we'll take the ball. Yeah, just immediately. Yeah, okay. You know, basically, or actually, no, like, you can have the ball. Like, you defer, meaning if you defer, you're deferring your decision in overtime. Right. And that was a funny moment, actually. I think Mahomes actually was talking about that after the game because he's just like, yeah, we'll make the decision if you're deferring the decision because we're asking. That's why, you know, Mark Rolstead, the ref, he kept on saying, do you want the ball over and over again in the same way, you know, James Franklin was saying hello to the reporter Michael last week.

7:26Rich Eisen:Kept on that until he got the answer he was looking for. Well, you're supposed to say kickoff. You can't defer in overtime. Like, if you defer, then it's my decision, you know? So then I was like, well, now I want to kick off, you know? So that's just – we have a guy named Frazier that tells us the rules, and you're supposed to say kick off. He said defer. So I said, I'll kick off then. That's the rules, I guess. But it didn't work. That's pretty funny, actually. Frazier. Frazier. I didn't know. I'm listening. I'm listening. And based on that soundbite, beautiful necklace right there. Yeah. Black diamonds and scrambled eggs?

8:03Is that what it is? He had those last week. I was looking them up. I bet you. Can't afford them. Oh, come on, really? Me personally. Well, CZ's, TJ. You know what I mean? All right. Listen.

8:17Rich Eisen:See, the Chiefs have the benefit of having a quarterback in Mahomes where he knows the rules. He also knows he would like to have the ball second because he wants to know exactly what he needs to do in overtime based on what the team that gets the ball first does. That's how he won a Super Bowl and how Kyle Shanahan got torched the entire offseason because he said, we'll take the ball first in overtime in the Super Bowl. Problem for them is they only scored three. So Mahomes knew all he had to do was go down the field and get three to keep the game going and just screw it. We'll just score a touchdown and walk off and get the confetti.

8:56Rich Eisen:So that was that problem. But the ultimate problem is the Chiefs have a quarterback that knows we'd like the ball second. But if you want to give it to me first, I'm pretty good at that, too. I'm pretty good at that, too. Especially when I am lighting it up. To the tune of 382 passing yards and three passing touchdowns for the 19th career game with that stat line. tying Dan Marino for the fifth most all time, and he just turned 30. That works. And remarkably, the Colts hold him to three. And half of overtime is done. And I hate the fact that there's only 10 minutes in regular season overtime. Give me five more minutes so we could see more changes of possession, because that would be interesting to me.

9:48Rich Eisen:But I understand the league is just like, let's wrap this thing up. It's something called the regular season, and we've got a ton more football left to be played. But that said, Shane Steichen getting the ball back after having his team hold Mahomes to just three points and then going up top to Laquan Treadwell. What a sick play. Was a ballsy call. The only way to put it. A ballsy call. And then the ball gets juggled. And then the ball gets juggled and caught and fumbled and the game's over. except for the fact that we're reviewing this thing. And sure enough, Laquan and Legereus come together, and Legereus touches Laquan's hip with what looked like, you know, the tip of his gloved fingers, just as Treadwell collected the football.

10:44Rich Eisen:The ruling on the field is a game-over fumble, so you need to see something indisputable to overturn it. And the refs do that, which means this. For all y 'all out there with Chiefs fatigue, I don't want to hear it anymore that the refs are in the Chiefs pocket. Because if they were, the refs in Arrowhead on Sunday night in front of a massive audience could have just said, game over. We didn't see anything. Let's have you guys all talk about it. You ladies all talk about it for the next week. Well, they tried. They didn't. Mahomes even knew that he wanted this thing to continue. That's amazing.

11:31He wanted the Colts to get the ball in the red zone after all this because he knew what the conversation would have been. A big play in overtime where we think we stripped the ball and they end up being barely touched. I was actually kind of glad because I didn't want to see Twitter's reaction if they would have called it a fumble. So we got to prove it the right way, get the stop there, and then go back out there and get a field goal. This is what's so nuts is that Mahomes is fatigued of the Chiefs' fatigue conversation. Don't read the comments, bro. Hey, guess what? Good luck. He could do whatever he wants because we're all paying rent in his world.

12:08Rich Eisen:And the thing that I didn't get is the couple running plays afterwards because I know Steichen kind of realized that if we don't score here, I need to take time off the clock. But that's counter. That runs counter to the aggressive play call. But the aggressive play call was supposed to end it. It didn't end it. But rather extended. The game and then. Wound up having a fourth and eight that it looked like for a split second. that it looked like for a split second Shane Steichen was going to go for it. I would have been so ballsy. And he was asked about that after the game. And this is what he had to say on this front.

13:01Rich Eisen:Shane Steichen flat out after the game was asked about what in the world he was thinking by sending that team out there. and after the game he basically said it was a look that he was looking for so if he got the look they were going to run a play? they didn't even try to draw him offside they just kind of stood there draw him offside for what? make it 4th and 3 and do it again? and it's kind of like one of those horror movies that here go ahead and roll we had the right look I was like shoot if you love it man let's go at it let's go win this thing but if it's not the right look like shoot Let's kick the field goal here.

13:38Rich Eisen:Yeah, they kicked the field goal. And again, it was just like one of those horror movies where you knew the calls were coming from within the house. I mean, TJ called in the group chat like this game was over. I thank you for pointing that out. Because the Chiefs are back. They really are, guys. Mahomes doing his thing. Travis Kelsey, 27th career game, including playoffs with 100 receiving yards and a receiving touchdown. that ties Gronk for the most in the history of the NFL by a tight end he's going to pass that one would think because he's got games against the Chargers left and he you know he he could tell the Spanos family I own you right and the Chargers don't look good at all we'll talk about that on this three-hour show marriage has revitalized him well and I love that moment too where you know they show he scores and his uh his lovely points to her ring finger and Taylor Swift's like, that's my husband.

14:37Rich Eisen:I love it. I don't care what anyone else says. By the way, she's on camera like aggregately. I don't even I can't. 60 seconds. I can't believe we're going to have this conversation anymore. But that's the Chiefs fatigue. People have so much Chiefs fatigue. They even have Taylor Swift fatigue. I don't know how you have that quite frankly. Didn't we do this three years ago? We do it every year because the Chiefs are back. The Chiefs are back. That's why. You had one year off, folks. One year off from it. one year off. By the way, Travis Kelsey has 120 yards after the catch this season. That's the most in the first two games of a season in his career.

15:18Rich Eisen:And then you look at the chiefs in terms of being back. You know where they're going next? It's the Miami dolphins home opener next week. Yikes. Yep. That's next for them. And then there, by the way, this could be the Akbar bowl because he predicted it was going to happen. Week four, they're at the Las Vegas Raiders. That's their schedule the next two weeks before a bye. And then they're home for the Chargers. And then a Sunday nighter at Seattle before an opportunity to open November with a season sweep of Denver before the Jets and they visit Atlanta, home for Arizona the Thanksgiving night game at Buffalo kicking off their toughest stretch of the season which is three on the road at Buffalo at the Rams at Cincinnati before a home date with New England and San Francisco so Chiefs are back I think everyone can safely say that their rookies are balling out their receivers are balling out they're making plays Kelsey looks as revitalized as ever and Mahomes looks like he didn't have a single ounce of surgery as for the Colts real quick the Broncos did him a favor Broncos did him a favor by coming back on Jacksonville in a terrific comeback by the Broncos because it looked bad it looked like the the Jaguars were out physicaling this Broncos team for a second straight week the Broncos looked like they couldn't do what they wanted to do they had an idea of what they could do and they should do but couldn't execute it and then boom it happened against the Jaguars team that had won nine in a row dating back to last season in the regular season and Bo Nix connected with Jalen Waddell this is what we're talking about and the Broncos overcame a massive injury problem in their running back room.

17:28Rich Eisen:Like spinal tap drummers. Look it up, kids. They kept on dropping off one after the other. A gutsy home win. Jonah Coleman, congrats to the kid that we interviewed, sitting in the front seat of his car, wondering where he's going to get drafted prior to the draft. He scores his first career touchdown. Bo Nix, 288 yards. The Broncos defense steps up, picks off Trevor Lawrence. That flipped the script, to say the least. And the Broncos did the Colts a favor. So the Colts are 0-2, and the Bengals did the Colts a favor. You could say that the Colts had an opportunity to jump into first place after two weeks, so they're not too far off.

18:13Rich Eisen:And that was a truly gutsy performance by them as well. because you know i'm talking about the chiefs being back daniel jones doesn't look like he's been he's coming back from an achilles injury himself he played well last night and josh downs stepped up when alec pierce had to step off hate to see them lose that game they played really well and your guy from penn state ton of warren is really good too yeah beast okay and the offensive line so listen the colts are are are feeling it right now because dating back to last season they've lost nine in a row it has been too long since they have tasted victory and i'm sure they feel the pressure as the owners taking notes literally um but chiefs are back folks note to everyone literally that is a fact yeah that is a fact and a lot of people didn't think it was going to happen but it's a september and it that means my homes is winning football games he's now 23 and 6 in his career in september and that's only going to improve one would think with next week's visit to miami we'll see what the vegas raiders can do in week number four because they're 2-0.

19:18Rich Eisen:Yeah, buddy. They're 2-0. If the Colts had pulled that in overtime, we would be talking about the first place all by them. They're lonesome Las Vegas Raiders. Ah, so close. And so let's take a break because we have so much to talk about. It was so many upsets on Sunday. And then two massive quarterback injuries, one that has since given us, we've since gotten an update on one and a sunnier skies for one of the franchises that lost their franchise quarterback to a golf cart on Sunday. And then there's you at 844-204-RICH. There's Overreaction Monday in your RSS feed or on the YouTube channel of The Rich Eisen Show, youtube.com slash Rich Eisen Show.

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22:09Rich Eisen:Hello, we do. So let's talk about the two dynamite quarterbacks chosen first and third, first and second overall in the draft a couple years ago that are out. And the question is, they're down and out for how long? Who knows? Caleb Williams was first up in the Chicago rain 6-3 game Ben Johnson decides to go for it rather than kick a game-tying field goal because that's what Ben Johnson does sure enough they pick up the first down and from that Caleb Williams is running for his life or trying for a touchdown who knows his hamstring gives way or the rest of the free football world thought it could be his Achilles given way because the way he could not I think stand the pain he could not withstand the pain by standing on his own he needed help off he's getting carted he got the the towel over the head which is an indication of I cannot believe this has happened to me because this is as significant as it gets and then you know Ben Johnson says we we know it's not his knee that's good and then you see photographs of him leaving soldier field on his own power with no crutches no nothing well that's good then you hear florio on sunday night saying well it might just be a grade one strain we imagine that's better than any other type of strain i don't know i don't have a numerical system for strains three's the worst yeah right sort of like defcon though it's worse if it's one, right?

23:50Defcon 5 is better than Defcon 5. It's been a while since I've seen war games. And then our buddy Tommy P of The Ringer. Tommy P's putting out there today. Test confirmed today. No major injury. And the team's not even ruling them out for next Monday night against the Eagles. Hey! And there's cheers from Hallis Hall all the way to Bristol, Connecticut, because that game's on Monday night. Cheers in our call screener. Adam Chudwin said he took a nap. He was so depressed after that game. And he never does that after a Chiefs game. All right. So wake up, Adam. It looks like Caleb has avoided serious injury.

24:39And I don't know if this is a cat and mouse. I'll tell you what. Philadelphia's not going to lose any sleep trying to – Like, or let me just put it this way. Vic Fangio has been through so many defensive coordinator wars that I think prepping for Caleb and getting Tyson Bajan

25:02Rich Eisen:is not something that's going to keep him up. That said, what a relief. But the Minnesota Vikings just took a road game in division back home with them to go 2-0. Big comeback win against the Packers. And then a big win on the road in Rainy Soldier Field means they're not just 2-0. They're the best type of 2-0. In division on top of it. Holding serve at home when it looked like they were about to lose. and then going into Chicago and holding on in the fourth quarter for a second straight year. This time with Carson Wentz. Well, them apples. Okay, Aaron Jones looked good. And Wentz. Yeah, Aaron Jones looked good.

25:57Rich Eisen:I mean, listen, 9-3 is not going to light up any fantasy scoreboards or any scoreboard at all. Of course not. But it doesn't matter. You are what you are, and what the Minnesota Vikings now are, are 2-0 moving forward in an NFC North where we're wondering, okay, it's not significant on an MRI machine, but when do we get Caleb back for this Bears team? The Lions just got lit up on Thursday night. They're having trouble defensively. The Packers had a comeback, down 10. How about this? They lost six in a row with four of the six, the Packers, with them having a two-score lead in four of those six games.

26:37Rich Eisen:And this time, they're down two scores against a Jets team that's feeling good about themselves in MetLife, and they come back and win that. And the Vikings now have started 2-0. Not too shabby. And we'll keep an eye on what's going on with Kayla Williams, but apparently, as of right now, A few hours before Monday Night Football kickoff on ESPN and ABC and everybody else, Caleb Williams looks like he has averted major problems. Because that looked like, as he's carted off with his towel over his head and the way he was reacting, that we were going to see Tyson Bajant for the rest of the year, which would have been a heck of an arm wrestle.

27:27Rich Eisen:So there you go. do you where are you falling on uh because now it's a big thing online right now that caleb was overreacting and now he's basically paul pierce like he's turned himself into a meme who cares honestly yeah in his mind he probably thought that that was it so i don't know if it was the tears because of the pain or the the mental anguish guess what he is caleb freegan williams He's the Iceman. He is, by the way, looking swole as well. And being a meme. Listen, he survived, you know, people making fun of him because he was crying on his mother's shoulders in college. First overall pick, dynamite kid, dynamite setup.

28:11Rich Eisen:Life is good for Caleb. Let's just hope, let's get him back. Who cares if he's a meme? That's my take on that one. He's emotional. I didn't even know that. Yeah, it's a thing today. All right. Well, those people should get lives. Now then.

28:28Rich Eisen:You're Dan Quinn. You're staring into the abyss. You're 0-2. Not just 0-2, but the worst type of 0-2. You're 0-2 in division. Okay? And your quarterback, Jaden Daniels, at the end of the game in the loss to Philadelphia and in the first half of this game in Dallas, flat out looks like the Jaden Daniels of his unicorn rookie season. Right? The offense is looking good. He's looking sharp. He is as elusive as ever and smart about it.

29:04Rich Eisen:And there's two seconds left in the half. You're getting the ball on the other side of halftime. And you don't kick it. And you put your quarterback under center to take one shot at tying the game in Dallas because Dak is showing up with CeeDee Lamb looking all gotty, okay? So I can understand why, and this is a total 2020 hindsight second guess because Dan Quinn, as he's going through the pros and the cons and the risk factor, he understands i can take the points 17 13 i get the ball second half i can take the lead then let's just play it simple play it safe we got this the risk is i get no points out of this and that is a big time problem you know in the long run but we can go into the locker room and just tell the guys attaboy we're trying to be aggressive and that's the downside if somebody told him the downside would be that one of his own linemen would step on the foot of his quarterback, who then, embracing his fall, would use the left arm that he dislocated last year to try and brace himself from falling.