Hour 1: Drake Maye’s Shoulder Intrigue, Vikes Fire GM, plus NFL Network’s Daniel Jeremiah

0:00Monster Energy. Everybody knows White Monster Zero Ultra. That's the OG. It kicked off this whole Zero Sugar Energy drink thing. But Ultra is a whole line up now. You've got Strawberry Dreams, Blue Hawaiian, Sunrise, and Vice Guava. And they all bring the Monster Energy punch. So if you've been living in the white can, branch out. Ultra's got a flavor for every vibe. And every single one is Zero Sugar. Tap the banner to learn more. Spring is here, and there's a whole new way to chai at Starbucks that's made perfect for you. Choose your sweetness, dial it up, or keep things light. Add a touch of pistachio, a hint of strawberry, or vanilla, or make it a spring classic with lavender.

0:45Because this season, there's endless ways to chai at Starbucks. This is the Rich Eisen Show. Hey, everybody! Can't get enough of the Rich Eisen Show? You're in luck! You can find us everywhere. Watch us weekdays on Disney Plus from noon to 3 Eastern. Miss the show? We've got a podcast so you can listen anytime. But here's the best part. Our YouTube channel. Subscribe at youtube.com slash Rich Eisen Show and you'll never miss a moment. Now, on with the show. This is the Rich Eisen Show. What's Eisen? The Rich Eisen Show. Are you slightly offended that you were only a$400 clue? Live from the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles, today's guests, NFL Network Analyst Daniel Jeremiah, NFL Network Insider Tom Pelissero, Bills Head Coach Joe Brady, Academy Award winner Casey Affleck, and now it's Rich Eisen.

1:51Rich Eisen:Well, hey, everybody. Welcome to this edition of The Rich Eisen Show here on Disney Plus, the ESPN app, ESPN radio series, XM Channel 80. We say hello to one and all, 844-204-RICH, number to dial, phone lines are already lit. I always appreciate that. We'll have a lot of time to talk on a what's more likely Friday around four guests. Hour three is particularly tight, highly trafficked. Joe Brady, the new head coach of the Buffalo Bills, is zooming in. And then Casey Affleck's been on this show before, but back in the day on the phone, he's coming in person. Diehard Pats fan, man. We're going to break down Super Bowl 60 from the New England point of view with Casey Affleck, an Academy Award winner in our number three.

2:35Rich Eisen:Two guys from the Senior Bowl. First up is going to be Daniel Jeremiah in 18 minutes time. And then Tom Pelissero getting us ready for Super Bowl week. Chris Brocklin, good to see you in your spot. Good morning, my friend. Good to see you, Jay Feli. How are you? What's up, Bridge? Is Dell 240 up in San Francisco? Yeah, he's somewhere. Okay. PJ, good to see you, bud. How are you, bud? Good to see you. Candle's lit over there. So, yeah, we've got too much time on our hands between now and when the toes meet in the football, when it's all kicking off in Super Bowl 60. And one week from today, we'll be two days away from the game.

3:18Rich Eisen:Fully talked out. I mean, 100 % talked out with a better sense of what we kind of don't know, I'd imagine, which is, what's with Drake May's shoulder? You know what I mean? I don't love it. Well, it's because it's not 100 % to use the phrase that we always hear. And we've heard Mike Vrabel basically say, yeah, not everyone's 100%. And I guess this is the difference between him and the Belichick era because, you know, he wouldn't even, Bill wouldn't even countenance it. He'd just stare daggers at you and go, you know, the injury report will be out, you know. And then he'll list 19 million people as questionable and there's only a 53-man roster and you're like, okay, I get it.

4:12Rich Eisen:You know, it's like, wait a minute. Why is Andre Tippett listed as questionable? That's right. He hasn't played in two decades. That's right. John Hanna questionable. Steve Brogan? Like what? Wait a minute. Tony Eason, he started your first Super Bowl. Why is he listed on Super Bowl 60? Okay. Mike Haynes is probable. It was the first practice in New England yesterday since the AFC championship game that left Drake May less than 100%. the play in question I think that left him grasping at his throwing shoulder is uh Talanoa Hufunga tackling him on a 13 yard gain in the third quarter that's where everyone's kind of pegging this yeah May kind of awkwardly slides and Hufunga kind of falls on top of him and then May gets up and kind of reaches real quick and you're not sure if he's fixing his jersey or if something twinged cost them the ball game didn't it wait a minute so uh may was out there practicing yesterday in a limited fashion is what it's being called nobody threw a ball while the media was able to watch so no joshua dobbs no pastor not throwing no cutlets no tommy devito cutlets um and um and drake may met with the media afterwards and this was the back and forth about his shoulder.

5:41Yeah, I'm feeling good. You know, a guy out there moving around a good bit today and I was able to do some of the jog through, so feeling good and looking forward to be ready to go. And this is the game you dream of playing in, so looking forward to getting out there and getting a chance to play in the Super Bowl.

5:55Rich Eisen:Were you limited at all and do you anticipate being limited moving forward? I'm just trying to do whatever I can to get back to 100%. And I think a lot of people in the locker room would say the same thing, having a two-week break, you know, it was nice to rest a little more and get back to get to know the Seahawks as good as I can. And from there, looking forward to getting out to practice and trying to transfer that to live, you know, game reps. Did you throw today? Did I throw today? Yeah, I mean, we went through normal practice. So, you know, did some reps and did some things where I'm looking forward to trying to get some more reps here and there and feel it out.

6:31Okay. Every year it's somebody's body part, right? Well, let's just put it in perspective. He's not walking around New York City in a walking boot like Tom Brady did one year and got out of the boot.

6:49Rich Eisen:This is different. I'm just wondering, can you show a guy's Don and Hoskins, can you show a screen grab or a freeze frame of the last moment of his press conference? this is res consulting at work right here because as you know the best thing about us is about us and we're we're experts at taking a look at this sort of thing is his left shoulder higher than his right is he favoring is he favoring his left shoulder to get the you know bear the the weight or is he or is he able to lean on the podium on his right shoulder which means he's fine what do you think great question i mean look at the face too that the face is is giving you know You know, I'm not 100 % for sure.

7:37Or it's a very De Niro Goodfellas looking face. A little bit. A lot of weight bearing on the left there. Talking to me. I don't know. I don't know. You know, I mean, he doesn't look 100%.

7:51Rich Eisen:He admitted as such. He's not. It doesn't. And we're waiting is what we're doing. We're waiting. This is what happens when there's two weeks. And he clearly needs to be brought along, and that's what this bye week is for. They'll ramp him up. He'll be out there. He'll be playing in Super Bowl 60. We'll sit here and wonder what we should look for in the first quarter of that game to see if there's anything problematic. And I'll tell you what the problematic thing is going to be, is if they don't protect him against this pass rush that gets after people and sits Sam Donald down for second halves of regular season games because it's over.

8:36Rich Eisen:Game's already over. It's a wrap. You know? And his legs are fine, and he may be running for his life and picking up first downs and scoring touchdowns anyway, just like he's done through the first three weeks of these playoffs. I'll tell you who I would be more concerned about than Drake May's shoulder is Will Campbell's ability to protect him. Yeah, how's Will doing? You know what I mean? Like, that's it. That's it, because it doesn't matter if he's limited or that or what have you. If he's constantly getting hammered in the pocket, if he can't, let's put it this way. The Patriots' MO in these playoffs have been slow first quarters.

9:21Rich Eisen:the other team has a by middle of the second quarter a distinct sense of momentum going in their favor and the one thing that Justin Herbert didn't do that the other two quarterbacks the Patriots have faced in the playoffs did do is he didn't just pull the pin on a football and flip it up in the air deep in his own end and hand it to the Patriots defense as CJ Stroud did or chest pass it as Jared Stidham did. I mean, they didn't voluntarily do that. They were forced to do so. They were, they were intense pressure. They had intense pressure in their face. They had intense pressure in their face.

10:12Rich Eisen:Yeah. And if Sam Donald has intense pressure in his face and does this in Super Bowl 60, that would be three games in a row. And all I'm saying is what we need to be taking a look at in the first quarter of this game is, are the Patriots starting slow again? Is Drake May under pressure again? Is Seattle going to be a team that has a lead in the second quarter against the Patriots again? and will they be able to avoid the mistakes that the Texans made and the Broncos made? And will they be able to get after Sam Donald like they got after Justin Herbert in game one? That's basically what I'm looking for in the first quarter of Super Bowl 60.

11:06Rich Eisen:Not Drake Mays throwing children. I don't believe, I'm not going to be concerned about that because he'll get out there and throw. And if he's hit, that's one way that that shoulder injury could start barking a little bit more. And if not, Ramondre Stevenson can take the pressure off. Travion Henderson can take the pressure off. Josh McDaniels can take the pressure off. And his offensive line can keep the pressure off. One week from today, we'll also be talking about who's in the Pro Football Hall of Fame, Canton class. and we'll be talking about that moment when the class is introduced and um what belichick throws his crutches away and he strolls out on that stage anyway oh come on that would be awesome i'm rooting for oh let's go a little seth rollins that's bill belichick's music wait a minute don van natta was finally wrong with wickersham unlikely correct on a what's more likely friday unlikely.

12:08Rich Eisen:Not likely. Unlikely. Those guys are wrong. Mike Vrabel was asked about the snub of all snubs. The mother of all snubs. Mike, any thoughts about Bill Belichick now getting into the Hall of Fame first? I'm sure Bill will get in. I mean, again, that's something that's well out of my control, and I know that the time here with Bill were eight great years and the teammates and everybody else that we had, and I'm sure that that bill will get into to canton so i'm doing the math here um 68 regular season wins for vrabel right okay and five playoff wins for variable including three this year one more to come ha attaboy i like your moxie sir um and so that is uh let's do them i carry the one 73 Okay, now let's do some other math.

13:06Rich Eisen:What's 333 minus 73? That's a zero. 260. 260. He needs 260 more wins in his career. And he needs to win this Super Bowl and five more to match Bill Belichick's final record. And Mike Vrabel is widely considered the favorite for Coach of the Year. I think one week from today we'll be talking about the Super Bowl 60 American Football Conference coach as the coach of the year, I believe.

13:43Rich Eisen:And I said this when I was on Dan Patrick's show today, just to put a button on this. I saw that. You were good. Thank you. I appreciate that since you were sitting right over there and I was there. You were there. I was here. I was here. You were there. Dan was there. I was here. I'm better than you.

14:02Rich Eisen:that just mentioning Belichick's coaching resume numbers in support while you're just talking about it. Because I was hanging around on a poker night last night with the guys there talking about it. Just like 333 all-time coaching wins and 31 playoff wins and eight Super Bowls, six as a head coach, two as an assistant. And you start saying it, and it's just like, why am I even saying these? Like, what's the point of it? It's just a conversation. You're like, why do I even have to? It's just eye test. And a couple of voters apparently applied a smell test to it. And it's just insane. and it's embarrassing at the end of the day it really is it's just like how is he not a first ballot pro football hall of famer and it's eric mangini's fault well for snitching okay and so bill got the stitches is what you're saying okay let's be real all right like shanahan was pissed he didn't think of it first i know that should tell you all you need to know i got it i got it i just find it so funny that you know you're just making the same arguments i do about the university of michigan that absolutely not bank away okay absolutely not all right same thing it's a different argument i is that right i mean that's what he said that's no i turn to you is the arbiter for this sort of thing.

15:50Rich Eisen:I mean, he's very convinced. It's just nuts. One week from today. I believe, I'm hoping to hear Bob Kraft's name mentioned. But the problem is, again, he's lumped in with the Belichick vote and the vote for Ken Anderson, Elsie Greenwood, and Roger Craig. I'd love to see Roger Craig up on that stage in San Francisco in front of the home fans. And then Brady. We've just got to hold our breath for when he goes in, right? Probably never. We'll never hold our breath for him or he'll never get in. He's never going to make it. Yeah. Yeah. The whole thing is nuts. But Drew Brees, Larry Fitzgerald, we should hear those names.

16:32Rich Eisen:I'm wondering if we're going to hear the other wide receiver names that have been waiting. Well, it's Reggie Wayne. It's big game Torrey Holt. Heinz Ward should already have been in. And we'll find out. We'll have the answer one week from today. Stafford or May you know is Josh McDaniels going to be the assistant coach of the year because that is an award that's up yeah Puka JSN or JSN could we is it entirely I'm wondering have we ever had a Super Bowl in which coach of the year MVP offensive player of the year are all represented in the game that's in the ether right now Drake May, MVP, Coach of the Year, Mike Vrabel, Offensive Player of the Year, Jackson Smith and Jigba.

17:24Rich Eisen:I'm wondering if we've ever seen something like that. I think 2007 was Brady, Bill, and Brady was also Offensive Player of the Year. I mean, I know they've come close to the NBA. That's off the top of my head, but then they didn't even win. Then they didn't win. Yeah. Which is what's keeping Bill out of the Hall of Fame, I think. Right, of course. Like we forgot about Bill's Super Bowl losses. losses Chris oh man those leave a mark man if he had only not benched Malcolm Butler against the Eagles at any rate stupid that's one week from today 844-204-RICH number to dial Daniel Jeremiah is going to join us from the senior bowl what is going on down there what are his thoughts about Super Bowl 60 the combine by the way is just around the corner as well that is so is this commercial break here on this Friday edition of the Rich Eisen Show.

18:21Rich Eisen:Save money and get a better view of the road when you replace your worn-out wiper blades at O 'Reilly Auto Parts. Right now, save$10 on a pair of Rain-X Latitude wiper blades. They feature beam blade technology to improve windshield contact for maximum visibility. The professional parts people will even install your new wiper blades for free. Choose Rain-X Latitude wiper blades at your local O 'Reilly Auto Parts store or online at OReillyAuto.com. Rich Eisen here. The tax deadline will be here before you know it, and you just want to know your taxes are actually being handled. But the old way?

18:56Rich Eisen:You hand everything off and then silence. Days pass. Weeks pass. You start wondering, should I send another follow-up email? It feels like you're chasing updates and getting nowhere. But now, taxes are different because your taxes are done for you by a TurboTax full service expert with Intuit TurboTax you can match with your dedicated tax expert and hand off everything right in the app and while your expert checks for every deduction you'll see real-time updates on your phone so you always know exactly where things stand suddenly you're not refreshing your inbox you're going for a run grabbing a coffee scrolling anything other than a just checking in message because your TurboTax expert is handling it and keeping you in the loop so this tax season, get your best possible outcome and every dollar you deserve without the guesswork.

19:46Rich Eisen:Visit TurboTax.com today to learn more. Real-time updates only in iOS mobile app, only available with TurboTax full-service experts. The Rich Eisen Show podcast. Daniel Jeremiah here on The Rich Eisen Show. Our radio audience has returned. We're one big simulcast family on Disney Plus and the ESPN app. The headline from the Senior Bowl is what, Daniel Jeremiah what is it I would say it's a you know good edge rush group and I think that's going to be you know kind of the larger draft class a lot of times down here in Mobile it's a little microcosm of what the the class as a whole will look like yes sir um so that to me and man it's been some some good edge rushers and Derek Moore your kid from Michigan's been as good as anybody oh yeah my boy Cooper showed me he who did he punk the the tackle from Miami Yeah, he was about 6 '9", 350 pounds, and he flat-backed him.

20:41So there's some exciting edge guys to kind of find in this draft. And I think really day two, if you've got a bunch of day two picks, it's really good value you can find amongst that group. Quarterback-wise, it's just been kind of okay. We've had years before where obviously we've had the big dogs here. We've had Josh Allen here. We've had Herbert here just a couple years ago. We had Penix and Bo Nix. Like, you know, that that group is that talent is not here at that position, which is going to inform what happens, you know, as we get through free agency. And you'll start hearing names like Malik Willis and does somebody want to trade for Mac Jones?

21:14And, you know, that's going to lead to an interesting market there. And I think Sam Darnold finding the success he's found on his fifth team is going to inform some teams that, hey, you don't necessarily have to always get these guys through the draft.

21:26Rich Eisen:OK, I'm going to ask you to turn that light behind you off. Actually, hold on. Yeah, hold on. Here we go. Let's see if we can just flip that one off. No, not that one. The other one. I think he's going to do that. He's got the camera that follows him around. Oh, my God. You turned the wrong light off. He doesn't know. That's better. Is that better? How's that? Is that better? How's that? It's slightly better, but we mean the other one. The other light. The one behind you, but now it's going to be. Oh, that one. Yes. You won't even see me. No, that's why you keep the other light on, Daniel. Well, we're waiting.

21:58Rich Eisen:Let's see if this works. Let's see if this works. Let's see if this works. That's much better, believe it or not. I feel like I should be talking to Delilah. It's all good. No, this is good. Delilah after dark. Oh, this is good. You got like a Harvey Dent thing going on a little bit here, which is fine. Delilah. Okay, very good. Careful. Don't sing on the... You know what I'm getting on you about humming a melody, DJ? It's the worst thing ever. All right, now turn the other light on, the first one you turned off. This is the Emmy Award material here? It probably is. This is going to work. I think this is the winner.

22:31Rich Eisen:I think this is going to be it. This is going to be the win. This is going to be it. This is for the win. FTW, yeah, baby. Okay. Okay. How about that? Much better. All right. So jumping into it, now we've got your mock draft, your first mock draft, right? We got that. That's out there. Okay. Here we go. Pop it up if you don't mind. So Fernando Mendoza is going to be a Raider at the end of the day. Not concerned about him going to a spot where he's not protected. The Raiders don't care. They're going to just got to get the guy when you're first overall. Is that what you believe? Yeah, and I think the Jets would effort with all the picks that they've accumulated to try and see if they could pry that pick away from the Raiders.

23:13And the buzz down here amongst all the teams is there's no chance the Raiders would trade off of that pick. You think the Jets would trade up for Fernando? I 100 % think they would. No kidding. 100%. But they're not ready either. they're not ready no but they're but it's not gonna it's irrelevant because they're not gonna pass up an opportunity to get Mendoza I don't think the Raiders would do that so Mendoza has

23:35Rich Eisen:people have fallen in that deep in love with Fernando Mendoza atop this draft oh yeah I think the way he finished everything up and uh I mean rich like to me when you look at how he did on some big third downs you look at how he did in the red zone um you look at how he did in big moments after getting drilled we talked about that on Sunday right um just how he's reacted to that So you get accuracy, you get toughness, you get somebody who's been big in big moments. That's a pretty good place to start. Oh, by the way, he's six foot five. He's big. You saw on the big run, touchdown run, he can move around enough.

24:08And I don't know that there's ever been a quarterback more equipped to not be distracted by Las Vegas than Fernando Mendoza.

24:15Rich Eisen:Okay. So the Jets are going to try and it's not going to, because I honestly thought, DJ, Jay, that the Jets getting picks in next year's draft is when they're going to be targeting their quarterback. And that may happen anyway. But you're saying it's because it won't be for a lack of trying to have the Raiders move off of Mendoza. Yeah, I mean, this is just kind of the that's the buzz down here was that, hey, the Jets. I mean, I'm not saying they would trade all their picks. Right. Accumulated. But, you know, they're this close to being able to get a guy that they would, you know, try and make an effort to do that.

24:48But it would be it would be a moot point because they're not going to move off of it. that the Raiders seem to be pretty in love with Fernando Mendoza. Did their homework, obviously, we saw, who was in attendance for the national championship game. And when you're in a position like this, it looks like a really intriguing group coming up next year, but there's no guarantee you're going to be in the right position to be able to get that guy. So right now, you're sitting on a guy that has all the measurables, has the intangibles. I don't see the Raiders listening to any of those offers.

25:19Rich Eisen:Okay. So if we put the top 10 up once again, then you would have, and we'll put a pin in the Jets for a moment as well. You've got the, because everybody's putting Jeremiah Lovin basically sharpie for the Chiefs. You think the Saints would jump the line for him. Is that what you're thinking right now? There is a lot of excitement around Tyler Shook and listening to folks down here as well, talking to some guys around that organization and in that organization. There's an excitement there and they want to give him some more toys to play with. And that's the best toy in the draft, in my opinion, is Jeremiah Love.

25:59So I know it's going to be popular. I've been beating the drum for the Chiefs to add a dynamic back to kind of help solve some of their problems that they haven't been able to overcome with teams playing this umbrella coverage across the league. It really started because of their success in limiting explosive plays, and they haven't had a run game to totally capitalize on those looks to help Patrick Mahomes. So I've been championing them getting it back. I would love to see Jeremiah Love there, no pun intended. But in this case, I found the Saints. Jeremiah Love's one of the top two or three players in this draft class, and you've got a chance to add him.

26:35You've got your tackles in place. They've got two first-round tackles with Banks and Foaga. Now you've got the quarterback. Man, now you could say, okay, now we add this running back in here who not only is a runner, but they know what it's like to see backs that can really catch the ball out of the backfield in that city watching that team, and this dude can catch the heck out of it.

26:54Rich Eisen:So just looking at your top ten again, you've got two offensive tackles. you obviously have the quarterback going first and you've got a running back there um at eight in everybody else's defense so that you just think that this is the way the top 10 is going to go edge line you're basically line play um you know i know sonny styles is listed as a linebacker but man is he just absolutely right right and we saw what bain did in the national championship game and also in all those games leading up to it for Miami. That's the way you see the top 10? Yeah, I mean, keep in mind, Rich, an exercise that you're doing when at the time, I think there were four or five teams had yet to hire a head coach.