Hour 1: Eagles & Bills Unbeaten No More, Drake Maye’s It Factor, Big Ravens Concerns

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1:30Rich Eisen:That's right. Welcome to this edition of The Rich Eisen Show. We are the last remaining undefeated team in the National Football League. Right here on Disney +, the ESPN app everywhere, as well as ESPN Radio presented by Progressive Insurance. We say hello to those maybe listening on Sirius XM Channel 80, which is in the ESPN Radio dial, as well to our podcast listeners, all three hours available every single day. If you want to listen to us whenever you want it, you're right to do so. We don't deny you that, right? All three hours distributed through the Rich Eisen Podcast Network, thanks to our friends at the ESPN Pod Center as well.

2:07Rich Eisen:844-204-RICH is, as always, the number to dial. My buddy Mike Mayock from back in the day on NFL Network, he's going to be joining right in the middle of the show to give us his two cents on everything going on in week number five of the NFL that is in the books with the exception of tonight's big Monday night finale between the Kansas City Chiefs trying to get above.500 for the first time this season, taking on a Jacksonville Jaguars team that is at 3-1, wants to put their card on the table and tell everybody in the National Football League we belong as well as belong tied with the Colts atop the AFC South if they win tonight.

2:40Rich Eisen:Good to see you over there, Christopher Brockman. How are you, sir? Rich, I am spectacular. No doubt. You are a Patriot fan and feeling good about your life. Mike Del Tufo, an outrage that you're wearing a Dodger hat again because you are a New Jersey guy. Yankee suck, Rich. Thank you, sir, for that information. Way to jump off that bandwagon again, Mike. Yeah, I'm back on that. And TJ Jefferson, good to see you over there. How are you, sir? I mean, a winner is a win. I brought down Cowboys! That's right, there you go. No, they beat the Jets. I mean, why do you give me a... They beat the Jets.

3:10Rich Eisen:Rock it to my right. Come on, it doesn't count. All right, I'll give you a win. You've got to give him a drop, Mike. I'm so annoyed. I brought down Cowboys! That's the drop coming off of it. Thank you, my goodness. By the way, they look great. I mean, yeah. Excuse me, excuse me, excuse me. A winner is a win. Excuse me, sir. with you people around here. You denigrating a victory in the National Football League, and you should feel good about it, man. No seedy lamb. I can't feel good because a jerk's like him. Well, let's all get along. We've got a three-hour show. And we'll talk more about the Cowboys later on.

3:46Rich Eisen:I do want to start about the show with the defending Super Bowl champions no longer being an undefeated team. Same thing with the Buffalo Bills. The two last remaining undefeated teams in the National Football League all went down on the same day. Philadelphia in the, I can't call it an early window, in the earliest window was the Vikings beating the Browns on NFL Network. And the Eagles losing to the Broncos in the one Eastern hour. And then the Bills lose on Sunday night football to the New England Patriots, which we'll talk about. But the defending Super Bowl champs went down. And they go down to the Denver Broncos, and we'll talk about the Broncos in a second.

4:25Rich Eisen:But we linger on the defending Super Bowl champions that can't seem to put a full, complete game together. You take a look at their opening night win. There was that weather delay that kind of threw the Dallas Cowboys off, had the Cowboys caught one. From CeeDee Lamb, they might have won that one. And you know what? I did just start by saying you can't denigrate a win in the National Football League. so I won't do so. Bottom line is the Eagles were 4-0. They earned every last one of them. And they were playing games where they were making the most of a team's mistakes and beating you with it. That's the earmark of a defending Super Bowl champion.

5:12Rich Eisen:And in the first three quarters of the game in Philadelphia, the Broncos were making mistakes. They were not playing clean football. They were playing good defensive football. and they were stopping the run, but they weren't stopping the pass. And as a matter of fact, the Philadelphia Eagles were up 17-3 in this game, entering the fourth quarter. That's usually all she wrote. But then something happened. Bo Nix started happening. Cortland Sutton started happening. J.K. Dobbins started happening. R.J. Harvey started happening. The defense started happening even better. and an 18-0 fourth quarter by the Denver Broncos left the Philadelphia Eagles with their first loss of the season and everyone wondering what is up with this offense.

6:01Rich Eisen:It's kind of crazy that the entire week is spent talking about A.J. Brown's Bible verse and what it meant and how pissed he might have been and then you hear a report on Sunday that Devontae Smith is just as upset and A.J. Brown met with the coach and the general manager to air things out personally, and yada, yada, yada. The two of them together get 18 targets for 13 catches and 147 yards in the air. Devontae Smith with a season-high 114 yards. A.J. Brown just 43 of them. Jalen Hurts didn't run a lick. Neither did Saquon Barkley. The two of them together. That's crazy. The two of them together had eight carries.

6:51Rich Eisen:That's it. Eight carries. Sometimes the Eagles on a long drive just to take some air out of the ball and some time off the clock, the two of them might combine for eight carries in a single drive. And they only had it in a game. Saquon ripped one off for 17 yards. That's all he had. He did have the 47-yarder in the air to score.

7:19Rich Eisen:so the passing game everyone's saying what's wrong with the passing game then the passing game shows up and it's pretty darn good now everyone's wondering what's going on with the running game yeah and um and at the end of the game stuff happened that didn't go their way at the very end they didn't get a call and they didn't get a a hail mary coming down in the arms of a.j brown potentially because he was wearing Devontae Smith at the time. So you got two Eagles basically lined up to catch the ball, one on top of the other, surrounded by Denver Broncos. And that's the way Nick Sirianni strolled to the podium to talk about what's potentially wrong about a Super Bowl team that's 4-1.

8:05I think that the guys have worked extremely hard in preparation. I see the same hunger that was there prior to us winning the Super Bowl. So I don't think it's anything like that. Again, just the name of this game is always going to come down to detail. And as far as us as coaches and players, we weren't detailed enough today, and they were a little more detailed than us. And it's a good football team. Hats off to them. Coach Payton's obviously a really good coach. And a lot of respect for that opponent.

8:38Rich Eisen:So attention to detail. Let's drill down on this because this is now the parsing you're going to be hearing in Philadelphia and maybe nationally throughout the week. Jalen Hurts I think put his finger on it multiple times in this particular soundbite at his podium afterwards. Was attributed to start offensively and then start.

9:02Lack of execution. Lack of execution.

9:07Rich Eisen:You said some things don't get you until they get you. From your perspective, what got you today? lack of execution. Let me write that down. Lack of execution. The lack of an execution. We also heard from Mailato, one of the offensive linemen, throughout the last week or two, they're getting the plays in late from offensive coordinator Kevin Petulo, or they're coming in and Jalen's not breaking the huddle quickly enough. Nobody's really pointing a finger exactly at anybody in particular, but I'm sure it's going to be pointed at the offensive coordinator. This was Sirianni on that subject matter?

9:45No. Again, there's so many things that go into that. I feel like I didn't feel, you know, obviously we had the one that was a huge one on fourth down where we got up and kind of snapped it on one. A lot of things that go into that. Again, we're doing everything we can do to, you know, find solutions, not assign blame. And we're a team, we're together. so it's always going to be an us thing.

10:13Rich Eisen:Okay. Note to everybody in Philadelphia, no finger pointing within that building. It's incredible. I guess it's a Philly thing. Every single year that they constantly win, maybe even a Super Bowl last year, it was a conversation. What's going on in that locker room? Can Sirianni bring everyone together? And then they have a parade where the only blood that you see is on the forehead of the general manager who takes a beer off the dome. You know what I mean? So I'll just say this. Week five. Can't win them all on top of it in terms of getting things executed and getting things buttoned up. Negative is it's a short week.

10:55Rich Eisen:They've got a Thursday night game next up. The positive thing is it's against a Giants team that turned it over five consecutive possessions in New Orleans against a winless Saints team. and then they go to Minnesota that will be J.J. McCarthy's first game back as the starting quarterback of the Vikings apparently unless he's still not ready or Kevin O 'Connell wants to give a revenge game start as a thank you to getting us through the four games as it would be without J.J. McCarthy yes I was wanting to ask who Carson Wentz confirmed I I think it's all expected as they use that phrase here that jj mccarthy will be back after a bye week carson wentz having won two of three uh as the starter and then they're home against the giants before a bye week and that's the whole point here they've got three games over a span of 17 days to get all the execution stuff down and buttoned up with a bye week on top of it to get healthy because if you pop that schedule up one more time that's the meat of the order if you will at green bay home for detroit at dallas home for chicago at the chargers before they have the vegas raiders who are having their problems right now uh stroll into town then they finish up with three massive ones a home and home against washington wrapped around a visit to buffalo in what I do believe, let me get this correct, is in fact, no it is not.

12:37Rich Eisen:It's the second to last game in that old building. So there's tough games ahead, wittable games ahead for them to get ready to win the tough games.

12:50Rich Eisen:And more than enough time for them to put full games together. And then more than enough time to maybe not lose some games and everyone have their hair on fire and point the finger at the offensive coordinator and the head coach is like, it's all hunky-dory here. Look elsewhere. Look elsewhere. But that's what happens when you lose one at home, certainly when you have it in hand at 17-3 and then you lose the fourth quarter 18-0 in the game. And then let's give it up for your Denver Broncos, everybody. Because when you are the bandwagon in the national football, where everybody is buying tickets to get on, To the point where you need to offer free seats on future bandwagons just to make room for the crush of people who want a seat on the bandwagon.

13:38Rich Eisen:You don't do too well. And the Denver Broncos started slow. It didn't look pretty at home against the Titans in week one, but a win is a win. I don't see any pictures in the standings. And then the Denver Broncos lost two in a row that they could have easily won. Where the Colts, they had them dead to rights, and the Colts get another shot at a missed field goal due to a leverage penalty and win it. Then they're at the Chargers, who won it at the final gun. Denver then takes care of Cincinnati on a Monday night and a short week visit to Philadelphia before a full-on week in London. That is what we call a brutal stretch of games, but they beat the Bengals and then they took care of business against the Eagles in Philadelphia in total Sean Payton fashion, which is hit you in the mouth, come up with some gritty offensive plays and offensive play from your quarterback, and then just do bat guano crazy stuff like going for two and roll the dice so you can get a one-point lead rather than give the Eagles an option to try and take the game in overtime and win it.

14:54Rich Eisen:and the defense started balling out six sacks in week five they lead the NFL with 21 sacks through five weeks of the NFL campaign Cortland Sutton with 99 yards receiving and four of Sutton's eight catches and 76 of those 99 yards came in the fourth quarter in which Bo Nix was nine of ten for 127 yards and a touchdown that's the way to do it you hit him in the mouth, you surprise them with a two-point conversion by rolling the dice, and you are Sean Payton, and you're now heading to London right away. They're going to be getting ready for their body clocks and everything for the Jets who are at present the only winless team in the NFL in the history of the NFL to go 0-5 without a single takeaway by their defense.

15:50Rich Eisen:Then they come home because it was their option to take a bye week or not they said let's just come home and we'll play they're gonna have the giants and new york football is one and nine right now and that's the next two opponents for the three and two denver broncos who then have dallas and then at houston home for vegas and home for kansas city and that's the key here the question is is just how many teams will they be tied with at the top of the afc west through five weeks because the Chargers lost to the Commanders. And if the Chiefs win tonight, that'll make it a three-way tie at three and two atop the AFC West.

16:25Rich Eisen:And if not, then the Denver Broncos have a full game lead on the Chiefs going into this part of the schedule. They can make some hay. Sean Payton's got to be feeling really good about things. You know, there were a lot of reasons. You know, you could say you weren't going to be successful, but our guys did a good job of preparing. And I think the locker room prior to today felt like this was going to be the result. I mean, I've done this long enough. I've got pretty good instincts. And then, you know, as a coach, you're waiting to see. And at halftime, I felt really good. You know, despite the unsuccessful drives offensively, I loved where we were at.

17:10Rich Eisen:You should. What a win. What a dummy. What a win. Again, I know they're 3-2. They could be 5-0. But they're 3-2. And that's good enough. And don't forget, they're still paying Russell Wilson this season. They're done with that contract as of next year. When Bo Nix will be on year three. And they could just start loading up. Even more. Are they a good team? Physical team. Running at you. Sacking you. Coming after you. locking you down. Cortland Sutton had those 99 yards receiving. A.J. Brown had Patrick Sertan, the reigning defensive player of the year, travel with him on 48 of 52 snaps. Okay, so let's take the defensive player of the year and put him on the guy that's sending out Bible verses about how patient he needs to be.

18:10Rich Eisen:Good stuff, man. They can do it, and they just did it to the defending Super Bowl champs. As for the other remaining undefeated team entering week number five, they took it on the chin against the New England Patriots on Sunday Night Football. We'll discuss that. We'll also discuss what's going on with the Ravens in this first hour. What a dynamite game in the Pacific Northwest between the two Carolina Panther quarterback castoffs turned stud quarterbacks. And in the case of Baker Mayfield, you could make the case, and maybe we will do later. Your current poll position favored through five weeks of the National Football League is MVP.

18:59Rich Eisen:It's one of the topics Chris Brockman hit on Overreaction Monday, which is available for you to see and youtube.com slash rich eyes and show our uh our youtube channel every single monday that's already done it's already out for you to listen to as well as a podcast and maybe uh you can catch it later on for the first of hopefully many times knock on wood at 4 30 eastern time a half hour version of the show on espn2 leading to i believe this first hour that you're watching right now, either live or on tape. This is like the most meta thing I've ever done. Oh, by the way, is this our 11-year anniversary today?

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21:43Rich Eisen:Visit careers.progressive.com. so with the eagles going out the bills were the last remaining undefeated team in the national football league but by the way in case you're wondering the way the nfl and its stat heavy uh crew views this thing it it does it's it's not like poker who's lasted the actual longest um if you're out on the same day you tie as the last remaining undefeated team in the national Football League season. So the Eagles and the Bills are tied for the 2025 campaign as being the last undefeated teams in the National Football League. That said, I don't think a lot of people thought the Patriots could win the game, maybe give them a scare.

22:30Rich Eisen:Was that your higher register on Thursday, Chris? No, I didn't want to be a super homer. I went Seahawks for higher register. My higher register hit. Denver might be able to give the Eagles that game and actually pull it through. A lot of people are like, I don't know, Drake May has been playing well, you never know. And, you know, sure enough, Patriots come out, unfortunately they've got to settle. They don't want to ever settle. In Buffalo, train whistles are going, they're wearing their white uniforms, Tirico's having trouble, the Rolls Royce of Tirico is having trouble reading those numbers, because they were in silver.

23:07Rich Eisen:You know what I mean? A couple times he goes, that's Curtis Samuel, I believe. um that's a tough assignment everybody wearing white and here come the bills man marching down the field and guess what happens fumble bad operation Dawson knocks knocks the balls out of knocks the ball out of uh Josh Allen's hand and then off we go a three turn overnight for the bills ensue and uh even even the patriots were overcoming a fumble by uh remandre stevenson who gave that ball right back to the bills right after the takeaway here comes a giveaway stupid and um that's when every patriot fan i knew including a 14 year old in my house starts screaming at the screen and and you know this how diehard cooper is of a patriot fan um because he's also a diehard michigan fan i took him to the big house for the first time this weekend he starts screaming for a Buckeye to get out there all waiting for Travian to start taking the the diaper off to use a I'm sure Coop wasn't saying what I was saying in my house yeah another choice words but the diaper which is the phrase that a lot of old school NFL folks use about rookies that they're wearing their diaper the phrase that pays, though, that I heard one of the first times I was in the NFL Network, the old Parcells phrase of a rookie no longer playing like a rookie as he dropped his Huggies.

24:45Rich Eisen:Well, we talked earlier this, I guess a couple weeks ago, after Drake May and the Patriots came close against the Steelers, and then after that game taking care of business against Carolina and just spanking them, putting the most points on a team that had just shut out an opponent in quite some time in Carolina. We were talking about how Drake May was doing things that we hadn't seen statistic-wise out of a Patriot quarterback since Tom Brady in terms of efficiency, in terms of touchdowns, in terms of ratings, in terms of all of that stuff. well guess who dropped his huggies and basically removed them for good last night it feels like i'll be one drake may gents get ready for all you patriot haters out there coast to coast but they officially have a live one now we're back now we'll put a pin in that one sir which is you saying that is exactly why people hate the patriots coast to coast that said what drake may has done cannot be denied and what he did last night is exactly what josh allen and the bills have done to pretty much everyone else certainly in that building which is roll out extend plays and become unstoppably relentless us.

26:19Drake May rolling to his right last night was a nightmare for the Bills defense.

26:26Rich Eisen:An absolute positive nightmare. You could not get him down on the turf extending plays and making throws where you're like, where did he see that? How did he see that? How did he complete that? And again, the person you're normally saying that about in that building is Josh Allen. That's how good Drake May played last night, and he did it in the money crunch time. Certainly after the Bills came out after halftime and scored a touchdown. And no doubt, everyone in that building, with the exception of the guy who was wearing that Matt Milano jersey, ran out with a football. That was cool. Torrico's calling that was amazing.

27:05Rich Eisen:Everyone in that building went, again, when the Buffalo Bills took that 10-6 lead with the Curtis Samuel six-yard touchdown pass, everyone thought, okay, order has been restored. It's going to be the Bills' night. The Patriots, nice plucky first half out of you. Like, honestly, that I believe was the sentiment for most people sitting there watching Sunday night football, and certainly in that building, watching their players wear the ice uniforms or whatever the heck they call them. Well, especially when the Patriots settled for a field goal with one second left at the end of the second quarter.