Hour 1: Eagles-Bears MNF Reactions, plus ESPN CFB Analyst Josh Pate

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1:02Rich Eisen:This edition of the Rich Eisen Show, live on Disney +, the ESPN app, ESPN radio, Sirius XM, Channel 80, everybody. 844-204-RICH is the number to dial right here on the show. Week three of the NFL season is now in the books. It's going fast. Josh Pate's going to join us to talk about college football later on in this show. Cam Hayward in his usual spot. He's going to join us right in the middle of a short week, fresh off of beating the Bengals, trying to beat the Browns. Everybody in the NFC, AFC North is two and one through three weeks of this campaign. And then in hour number three, what a dynamite combination.

1:40Rich Eisen:I'm so thrilled that I'm able to do this show every day for you to listen to or take in by watching us. We're putting Sean Payton of the Denver Broncos and Sylvester Stallone in the same hour. Sly Stallone's got a new book called The Steps. It's a memoir of his career. And Sylvester Stallone's going to be joining us after Sean Payton does. And that's what we're doing here on this program. It's an overreaction Monday on a Tuesday. And J.J. McCarthy got traded. Both the Giants and Vikings reacted to that trade. Both head coaches talked about it. Soup to nuts. We're going to be hanging out together.

2:21Rich Eisen:Good to see you over there, Chris Brockman. How are you? Hey, Rich, man. I'm already stressed, thinking about 5 o 'clock tonight. That's right. The baseball playoffs are beginning in just a couple of hours between the Braves and the Phillies. You're referring to the Yankees and the Red Sox having at it later on. All four series are in action. Best of three starting today and tonight. ESPN Radio has everything. Good to see you over there. Rich, I'm awake. I'm sorry about the beginning of the show. It's all right. And TJ Jefferson, candles lit over there. How are you, sir? Yeah, Caleb inspired me last night.

2:54Rich Eisen:He looked comfortable in the locker room in his robe, so I decided to break out. You got your Cowboys robe and everything going on. And him looking like a Unabomber on the sidelines. That's incredible. Okay, fantastic. We're all set. I thought you were talking about you getting chopped from the game. We're all set here on the Rich Eisen Show. We'll talk about everything on this three-hour program.

3:15Rich Eisen:So, coming into this Monday night football game, We were wondering who was going to start for the Bears at quarterback. Certainly with Tyson Bajant, the backup quarterback, who the Bears gave money to, to be the backup quarterback, being in the concussion protocol and not practicing, but he got out of it over the weekend. And apparently Ben Johnson had seen enough from Case Keenum during the week of practice to say, we're going to go with the old hand who's practiced rather than the new kid on our block. and we're going to go with somebody who was playing when new kids on the block was actually a thing.

3:52Rich Eisen:The right stuff. And I'll say this. Coming in, you're wondering, okay, Case Keenum hasn't played a game in forever and he's going against the Philadelphia Eagles whose defense is not really to be questioned as much as the offense has been questioned despite the team starting 2-0. And this is going to be a tough assignment. I mean, you heard Marcus Spears on this program on Monday saying, if they don't run the ball, this thing's a wrap. Right. And I'm like thinking, okay, this is going to be potentially a long night for the Bears. Ben Johnson in his time as an OC and an HC has never put a quarterback on the field who wasn't a first overall selected quarterback.

4:37Rich Eisen:Wow. Case Keenum's the first. Not named Goff, not named Caleb. and then I saw his pregame interview on Monday Night Football and Case Keenum was present and by that I mean not just checking a box and saying here coach he was present to look at this moment and soak it in like a wedding day you have to stand in the corner and just make sure you take a few minutes to soak in what's happening because your head could be spinning otherwise. On any momentous occasion, you've got to be present to enjoy it and to have your best day possible. And Case Keenum, at age 38 and 223 days, knew what was in front of him.

5:35It's not something to be concerned about

5:39Rich Eisen:or nervous about or anxious about, but something to be calm and present in the moment about. And I saw that and I'm like, he's sitting there thinking, just a couple of years ago, I'm accepting, you know, an offer to be the backup quarterback in an insurance commercial, right? The backup a trailer. Like that's, he could have, he's probably sitting there in that, on that commercial set thinking, when am I going to ever get another opportunity to start? And I'm going to, I'm going to keep grinding because I love the game. And Ben Johnson gives him a call and says, we need you. Do you want to come into our system?

6:26Even though he's not one, but two heartbeats away from getting an opportunity.

6:33Rich Eisen:and he's sitting there thinking my kids or my young kids are gonna are old enough now to remember this rather than when i was starting rather rather than my previous you know nationally televised start against the eagles on an nfc championship game he had to be sitting there thinking i'm minnesota miracle the team into philadelphia and i was one game away four quarters away from the Super Bowl in my career, but couldn't get past this team. Everything had to be just swimming around his brain and his heart and his gut. And he just seemed calm and smiling and present. And I thought, okay, I got a little high register.

7:17Rich Eisen:Maybe the Bears can win this game if they could run the ball. And what they do is they come out and they start winging it with Case Keenum. What? Immediately. Luther Burden here. Oh, Colston Loveland. who had only one catch for the first two games. There he is. He still plays football for the Chicago Bears. And they wing it around. And they march down the field, and they flip one to Luther Burden inside the 10-yard line, and he pushes his way in the end zone, and Case Keenum has a touchdown. Right off the bat, passing touchdown to the kid Luther Burden. Beast of Burden. And that was something else.

7:56Rich Eisen:and yes the rest of the game begins to play out and they do establish the run and not just with the duo of swift and mcnonguy that ran amok on this team last year the day after thanksgiving to the tune of 281 yards rushing in philadelphia but this time around they ran for a buck 28 and the 240 something yards wasn't on the ground it was in the air case keenum 24 34 247 two touchdowns in the air and yeah he vultured swift and monongai one on the ground three touchdowns for case keenum what an incredible night and the Eagles turned out to be you know sort of the Washington generals in this globetrotter type performance metal lark Keenum curly Keenum you know what I mean you hit it good the first one okay I say that with the ultimate respect to the Eagles because they did show up in the first half of this game.

9:19And they did have a wild sequence that we'll get to in a minute that left them with no points

9:28Rich Eisen:inside the five-yard line, inside the two-yard line, which is an automatic for them because their automatic tush pusher was in the blue tent getting looked at. But the Bears defense balled out. Three takeaways. Their eighth game with three or more takeaways since the start of last season. That's the most in the NFL in that span. And they are 8-0 in those eight games. And Keenum against the Blitz. Let's Blitz the old man. Let's see what we can figure out. Vic Fangio rolled the Blitz out at him. 11 times Keenum passed and he saw blitz come in his way he was 11 for 11 in those times didn't miss buck 45 and both passing touchdowns came when an extra man was sent his way Kalief Raymond had 90 receiving yards Burden 61 receiving yards Swift had 84 on the ground including a big 15 yarder at the end of the game that may have axed TJ from our guillotine league the last second but that's for another i mean people don't care about that but the bears are two and one now and caleb williams showed up on the sideline looking like the unabomber and finished looking like thurston howell the third with his robe i know that's an old school reference so name anybody who wears a robe in pop culture that's it mr hefner bruster bruster's millions i don't know again caleb was watching and tyson bajant was backing up because he didn't have enough practice time and case keenum's like i got you got it yeah he was present he was present and accounted for and after the game you know seeing him with his family family family on the set um you know of the post game and seeing him at the podium afterwards we'll play later on for you the locker room moment where he got a game ball but case keenum had this to say about his journey to Monday Night Football and the victory last night.

11:35Rich Eisen:I mean, you want to. I mean, that's a kid and you're dreaming about it, you know, that you feel like you can. I don't know. I don't know if you think about the week that it takes, the work that it takes in the offseason to clean up your diet and work extremely hard to get your body back to where it needs to be, to go through a training camp as the three and grind out some reps that you're getting a few reps a day to get a shot again to do it like this. I mean, yeah, you dream of it. That's why I'm still here, still doing this, why I'm still getting up. When I get knocked down, I've been knocked down my whole career.

12:21Rich Eisen:I just keep getting up, keep coming to work, and just keep bouncing back. that's why you do it man i love that and that's what a backup quarterback needs to do keep the ship afloat we've already seen instances in this previous three weeks crazy how many times we've already seen it already in just three weeks uh i mean we're getting to the end of september october football's right around the corner we've already seen so many instances of a backup or a third stringer getting in and not keeping the ship afloat and that's what case keenum's done now you gotta wonder against the jets gotta start him right over tyson bajin i know you gave bajin the money but good lord brocklin thinks that bajin should no i i you know we we can debate it and i'm not but i do want to get to the eagles before josh paid we we can we can have that conversation over the next couple of days as the bears have a short week to get the jets get ready for the jets um but you know it was a great what an incredible night for him incredible night it's awesome great story um and coaching matters man that guy can dial it up and he can breathe life into you know a team and ben johnson can get this team believing and he can get quarterbacks ready and he can dial up plays and he was in his bag man they were they they were doing inside handoffs They were doing jet sweeps.

13:50Rich Eisen:They were, they were, he was hitting his back foot and hitting people. And it was not going to be, let's get the hands on 10 and two. Don't screw it up. And, you know, they, they went for it. Now the Philadelphia Eagles, let's hit them. I don't know how many times in this show over the past few years, certainly since Jalen Hurts has taken over that I have treaded lightly into addressing Philadelphia Eagles fans to tell them to relax, right? Sometimes I've been right because the Eagles go on to the Super Bowl. One time they won it. You know, another time it was, you know, Carson Wentz out. In comes Foles.

14:37Rich Eisen:Another time was, you know, last year. Relax after the Bears smacked him down. I'm like, the schedule's good enough for you to make the playoffs. make the playoffs. I don't know about the Super Bowl, but you're going to be in the playoffs. I was right about that. And then the Eagles fans were kind of right about them not making the Super Bowl. Right now, I don't know. I don't know. I think this is still a playoff team. They're 2-1. They're not 1-2. They're not 1-3. They're 2-1. That second half is concerning. Not going to lie. One thing you should definitely do is make sure that another player on the other team who used to play for your team isn't listening to your plays as you call them in the huddle man i might actually pick him yeah but he said that didn't matter i know no one's gonna say that and that much has been an angle too it was pretty sick though they also you know tj edwards was right where he needed to be and hurts threw it to him like he was on the eagles still that's true you know i'd say yeah um and and then you know man that sequence we we we found out the the person who can we've been wondering who can stop the tush push in the NFL.

15:50Rich Eisen:And we found out the individual who can stop the tush push in the NFL is an independent neurologist. Because just when the Eagles were set up to tush push their way in the end zone, Jalen Hurts is in the blue tent because he got blown up on the sideline. Sure did. Okay. And he's in the blue tent. And Andy Dalton is handing off to Saquon a couple times, and now it's third down. And I'm like wondering, should Sirianni pop off a timeout here or not? But he doesn't have the benefit of what we have, which is the Monday Night Football cameras zooming in and seeing Jalen Hurts popping his head out of the blue tent, sort of clear-eyed, full-hearted, saying, we can't lose if I get in.

16:38Rich Eisen:Anybody around? I'm ready. And Dalton throws an interception. Oy, oy, oy. And the Bears get off the field and the Eagles come away with no points when 99.99999 % of the time they're getting six. As they did with no time left at the end of the half. That was crazy. So that turned out to be those points at the end of the half. as Nick Sirianni pointed out in his post-game press conference that hey if I fired off a timeout to see if Hurts is coming back I don't know if Hurts will be able to come back but I needed that timeout for us to score at the end of the half what have you but if you can queue up Hurts on the second half struggles listen this I know is frustrating to Eagles fans because Hurts will never tell you something that you can hang your hat on and say, okay, this is what's wrong, and I have full confidence it's going to be fixed

17:46Rich Eisen:because he will never add fuel to the fire, and you just got to trust the process with Hurts, which is what I would always counsel Eagles fans to do because he's really good at playing, and I know that it's frustrating to watch sometimes, but this is what he had to say afterwards. We haven't been good enough coming out of half. We have not scored on the first drive of half. We've gotten the ball every time. Situationally, I've got to play better ball. Third down is a very big down for us. I think that's been a very big down for us in these first two games. Today, we were not good enough, and I wasn't good enough.

18:24Rich Eisen:and fourth down I wasn't good enough as well. So we were able to put some drives together. Situationally, I've got to be better and find ways to do some points. Yeah, that's a fact. What more could he say, though? Nothing. That was... Nothing, man. What happened? There isn't. I mean, the positive is that Saquon almost had 100 yards rushing. That looked better. They were getting first downs on first downs for the first time all year. That's a good thing. Operationally, though, I mean, in the second half, they take a delay of game on fourth and one. My old colleague from NFL Total Access, you know, the first two analysts in the history of NFL Total Access, Ken Norton Jr.

19:09Rich Eisen:and Seth Joyner. Seth, I saw his comments after the game. I don't know. Did you see this? He said that the moment that they had a delay of game on that fourth down, it cemented in his mind. And he flat out said it. he says he mentioned the reason why sean manion's in the booth and not down on the ground is because nick sirianni wants to have some sort of control over this offense and hurts and he doesn't want hurts having direct face-to-face with manion okay so this is the conversation going on in philadelphia i'm paraphrasing everybody should go check out what sean said also there's a fourth one that they didn't go for that that was kind of weird dude he's saying that that he that that was an indication to him that Sirianni was chiming in on the offense in a way that he wasn't for the first two weeks, why it looked a little choppy.

20:00Rich Eisen:And that that's something to keep an eye on about Mannion's free hand compared to Sirianni's level of interest here. So I'm just trying to give people an idea of what's being discussed in Philadelphia. And their next game is the battle between two teams that have a terrible taste in their mouths over the last two games of week number three. Rams are coming into Philadelphia. Oh, baby. That's a big win up for grabs. And then the Eagles have Jacksonville in London. Hello, bruv. Winnable games on the schedule, people. It's still, we're marathoning. We're not sprinting. And at the end of the day, the Bears may just have the Eagles number.

20:44Rich Eisen:That too. That could be the case. Ben Johnson is out scheming. Oh, my. Yeah. Oh, my. 844-204-RICH, number to dial here on the program. A SoFi personal loan is here to help you achieve something once thought impossible, overcoming high-interest credit card debt. Walk the tightrope of your finances with one low fixed-rate monthly payment, no fees required, and as soon as the same-day funding. That's correct. Pull off your own debt-defying stunt with a SoFi personal loan by visiting SoFi.com slash trick to learn more. Loans originated by SoFi Bank and a member FDIC. Terms and conditions apply. NMLS 696891.

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24:10Yes. That's what I'm choosing to do. I'm willfully choosing to do that.

24:14Rich Eisen:That's a heck of a compliment. This might as well be burnt orange. I know it's not, but it might as well be burnt orange. That's the number one team in the country, Rich. Don't we have to show them? No, I know that amount of respect. And then again, they call him Mr. Simmons. Wow. And spell it out. M-I-S-T. Oh,

24:35Rich Eisen:man. Fantastic. And then we didn't even talk about how the season began with clock issues or the clock in Michigan Stadium. and then my team boy I wish there was more time left on the clock uh against Iowa which is taking on Ohio State which may have the Heisman winner playing wide receiver and and Jeremiah Smith is now maybe bagged the defensive coordinator we got a coaching change on that front in Illinois I mean you see where I'm going like I don't know if I'm if we're just more hyper aware now in these days but it seems to be just off we even talk about P.J. Fleck going you know yeah what was that oh you know, smearing his players' blood all over his face like the frigging Braveheart.

25:19Rich Eisen:Wait a second. Hoops amongst us hasn't. That's Thanksgiving for my family. Every year I see that scene. You know, and if we're here in Michigan to talk about Kyle Whittingham is different than the rah-rah coach that we're used to having, and he's going against a guy who's smearing blood all over his face, you know, like this week, it's off the rails. Yeah, there was that small incident with Dante Moore in the Coliseum And then Oregon's backup quarterback just pantsing USC. That's like an annual pantsing. You can set your calendar by it. That's embarrassing. That was a big, big, big deal. It's a big deal for Oregon to win the game.

25:57It's a big deal for USC. Like, I think that's cooked for USC. You remember last year? Like, around this time last year, remember Oregon, ironically, went to Penn State. And that's after months and months and months of buildup. really a year's worth of buildup for James Franklin, that this is going to be the year. It's championship or bust. You're going to get over the hump. And everyone circle that Oregon game like we'll find out if Penn State's for real and our expectations are validated by the result of that Oregon game. Oregon beats them. Season off the rails and down the cliff. And there's just a plume of smoke.

26:30They got beat by UCLA. They got beat by Northwestern. Franklin's out of a job by October. The impact of that was more than one loss because of how much that had been invested from an emotional standpoint into the outcome of that game. If you talk to USC people, everything that applied to what I just said about Penn State last year applied to this last weekend's game against Oregon. They've waited. They've had half a decade's worth of patience. They have let him go through multiple defensive coordinators. They just peeled the sticker off brand new facilities. They just signed the number one class in the country.