Hour 1: Guest Host Seth Rollins, Aaron Donald & LeBron Latest, plus NFL Sleeper Teams Draft: Round 1

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1:33It's so classy, you know? It's so classy. I love it. Guys, I'm back in the chair. Hey! I'm back. I did it. And this time, we didn't have to wait an entire year, you know? That's right. It's just like a couple of months or something like that. Fake injury. Not even. It feels good. No, I have no fake injury. I do have a small back ailment that is legitimate. Legitimate. Well, you were out here stretching. I was. You saw it happening. It's either hard selling this or, you know, it's legit. No, this is the real deal. This is legitimate. This is me getting old. This is me hurting myself doing a box jump in the gym.

2:08Oh. And now I'm trying to get myself together because I got to get a title back in a couple weeks. Actually, one week. We're like a week away from SummerSlam. We are here. Rich Eisen show. I'm not rich. I'm Seth Rollins. So it's the Seth Rollins show. I'm here with the boys. We got Brockman. What up, man? Jefferson. Woo! We got a good crew. We got a really good crew, and I'm excited to be here. So, yeah, there he is, TJ, just hanging out in the corner. That's what I do. You look good over there, though, man. Did you guys plan this green thing? Like, green pants for TJ, green shirt for Seth? Look at that.

2:40Did not. You know, it's funny, speaking of wardrobe, though, I was at Bristol Farms the other day, and the kids were selling, you know, candy outside. And the first, of course, I said, I don't have any money. And I came out, and of course, I was going to buy something because I can't pass them up. And I bought some candy, and he was like, I really like the way you're dressed today. I was like, man, you already got the money. Well, that means it's a real compliment. Yeah, because he was like 12 and they don't just hand those out. No, no, no, no. Yeah, because if he's trying to get your money, he would have done it ahead of time, buttered you up, the whole not.

3:12And here's the thing about the kids these days. They don't just take the cash, so you can't even use the – they got Apple Pay, they got Venmo, they got PayPal, they got the whole thing, they got Zelle, anything in any way. Yeah, they'll do it all. They got the little thing. You know who really gets you in that are the Girl Scouts. Of course. They're like organized terrorists. Oh, man. Absolutely. Because they know you can't say no to them. You can't say no, but also they have an incredible product. I mean, the Girl Scout cookie is an institution. Do we have a favorite? Do you guys have a favorite?

3:44Tag along. Well, we got a plug named Emma, and she supplies us with some Thin Mints. Yeah, we're a Thin Mint crew here. That's disgusting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You guys are disgusting. yeah mint and chocolate don't go together really so you're not with the mint and chocolate anti no mint chocolate traditionally i am i don't like the ice cream but the thin mint cookie itself though i can't do it i'm with you what's your cookie mint and chocolate are not uh we are simpatico samoa's right yeah or the peanut butter patty peanut butter patty what is it about the mint and chocolate though is it like how it i don't like mint in a sweet environment i don't I love a mint gum.

4:25I love a mint mouthwash, a mint toothpaste. I'll do a savory mint even, like a little mint jelly on a lamb chop. I'm fine with it. That's fancy right there. Yeah. But a sweet mint situation, I'm out. I'm totally out. I'm with you. Me and my wife get along about as well as any couple can get along, I would say. This is our one disagreement. like we would get in a fist fight if you if i said i'm taking all the mint chocolate out of the house i would be out of the house before the mint chocolate 100 100 here's a here's a clue if your wife is named the man you probably don't want to get on don't want to no absolutely not absolutely not no there's no chance i mean look if you're married or you have a girl in the house you know you know who's boss you know happy wife happy life that's how it goes can i just talk about something real quick?

5:18Mint Jelly on a Lamb Chop. I wrote that down. That could be some type of fantasy name at some point. The song title, band name, album. That's like a Limp Bizkit album. Mint Jelly on a Lamb Chop, bro. Fred Grist, you're welcome. You only get that on a PJ, fellas. You don't get that on JetBlue. No. I feel like that's a common... Is that not a common accoutrement to a lamb, to a lamb shank or a lamb chop? Is this just the world I live in? I'm out of touch. When they say I'm out of touch, this is what they mean. I eat steaks from sizzling. If you have any opinions in the audience out there about mint chocolate or mint jelly on a lamb chop, call us 844-204.

6:00Rich, yeah, we're on Disney Plus, ESPN app. Listen to us, ESPN Radio, Sirius XM Channel 80. Follow Rich Eisen's show. You can follow me as well. I'm on social media as well, W.W. Rollins. Follow him. On Instagram. Subscribe to the YouTube channel. I'm not on YouTube. YouTube.com slash Rich Eisen show. Let's talk about sports, guys. Yeah. Enough of the mint jelly and cookie chatter. Let's talk about American football. Let's talk about the LA Rams, the odds-on favorite to go to the Super Bowl, to win the Super Bowl. We got a lot of football to get through. We're going to talk about some – we got a sleeper draft we're going to get to.

6:43We're going to talk about some sleeper teams or some teams that we think could outperform their expectations. That's going to be a lot of fun. I'm excited to see. I'm blind right now. I don't know who these guys are going to pick for their teams. So I'm excited to see who you guys got and what your reasonings are. But let's start with the Rams. And let's start with, I mean, we're on Aaron Donald. We are. Right, that's it. We're on Aaron Donald watch. We want to know, is he going to come back? Is he going to play beside Miles Garrett? The coach, Sean McVay, one of the great coaches in the NFL, had a little something to say about it.

7:11Let's take a listen. I have crossed paths with Aaron Donald. And, you know, what's special is we have a really special relationship, and it's way bigger than football. I've heard him say it before, and it means the world to me, and I feel the same. It's family with us. He's done so much for me. I love the man he is. I love the husband, the father, the son. You know, he represents a lot of the things that are right. And what he's going to do is he is thinking about this. He's going to go through his process. And the one thing about Aaron Donald is what he does, he does it full speed ahead. yeah i had this on as an overreaction monday uh topic that it's a matter of it uh when aaron donald comes back not if it just feels like all signs are pointing toward he's spotted at the facility he's really going nuts with the instagram workout videos and you know it's not that just like he's not throwing up 50s he's throwing up 110 dumbbells like it's not just any old like I want to keep my shape workout.

8:12This is like can I endure the rigors of an NFL season coming up workout. That's how it just seems and it's just all the chatter. The fact that it hasn't been completely dismissed. Like, nah, I'm not coming back. It's like, I'm thinking about it. There's too much smoke. Too much smoke. Right? Like, there's too much smoke. There's gotta be some flames here. It makes no sense. Now, look, one could argue Aaron Donald has been in playing shape since he retired. Like, the man is an animal when he comes to the gym. Like, he keeps himself ready at all times. Like, it feels like he retired just kind of and then stayed ready, waiting for the perfect opportunity to come back is almost what it feels like.

8:56And when you've got a beast like Miles Garrett just coming in, Defensive Player of the Year, like, it feels like this is the opportunity to come. I mean, come on, though. You know what I mean? Like, come on. It feels like it's not fair. It feels like we have rigged the system. Can you imagine the two of them on the same defensive line? Are we getting – do we think we're getting, like, prime Aaron Donald here? Well, TJ, no, we're not going to get prime. We're not going to get three-time defensive player of the year and first-team all-pro Aaron Donald. but I think just him out there, he's going to make plays and he's going to draw attention.

9:41And even if he doesn't, it, and it all goes to miles Garrett. Now, suddenly you're going to block Aaron Donald one-on-one. I don't care if he's two years removed from playing. Some of the other defensive players we were talking about yesterday that the Rams have, this is a team that could go for the all time single season sack record. You know, miles Garrett's coming off 23 last season, 25, Why not? Well, I kind of thought this. I came from Good Morning Football just a mere hours ago. And earlier in the week, I think last week, we were talking about this. And I said, I think he has a chance to break his own sack record.

10:22Yeah. Because, look, Cleveland was not good last year, right? So they were playing from behind a lot of the time. And so you're not going to get a lot of those situations where you know the quarterback is going to drop back and pass because they're just going to run the ball or, you know, whatever. They're not – it's not third and long, right? It's not happening because they're playing from behind so much. So I'm going on the opposite side of that. The offense for the L.A. Rams is elite. Elite. MVP quarterback Matthew Stafford, Puka Nakua, Devontae Adams. I mean, it's good. It's really, really good.

11:04So I imagine if it's anything like it was last season where they were the first in the league in big plays, they're going to be playing with a lead a lot of the time, which means all these teams are going to be trying to catch up, which means Aaron Donald, or oop, oop, oop, 40 and slip there. Miles Donald. Miles Garrett is going to get more opportunities to get after a quarterback. I mean, that is scary. That is terrifying. Yeah, you asked earlier, do I feel like he can be prime Aaron Donald? I'm not going to sit here and say he can't. Like, every professional athlete is special, right? And then you always have the 1 % who were, like, that much better.

11:40But like Shaq would say, Aaron Donald has G14 classification. I'm not going to sit here and go, yeah, he can't be what he was because we've all seen him working out. So you know the strength is there. So that's a big part of that position, right? and the fact that he doesn't have to be the man every single play because, oh, he's got this other genetic freak next to him. Well, that's what I'm wondering. Yeah, I'm not going to say he can't come back. And it's just when he comes back. Is he going to be right there day one in training camp or is he going to come in at the end of August? That's my next question.

12:13Is he going to float in week seven, week eight? Is it going to be a Thanksgiving situation and he's just there for the, you know, get his win back at the end of the season and then he's there for the playoff run? Yeah, what's the holdup? That's the thing that's kind of catching me a little. I'm like, okay, yeah, there's a lot of smoke, but what are we waiting for? What's the – I mean, has he really just not decided? He hasn't decided. Do you think that's it? Maybe. Do you think he really just hasn't made up his mind whether he wants to come back and play or not? Did we hear something the other day about someone said that if he does it, he doesn't want to come in in the middle of the season.

12:46He wants to grind with the team from the start. So that would lend itself to being we should hear, you know, an answer sooner than later. But yeah, I mean, training camp's right around the corner. We're almost a live football. Yeah, I mean, the Rams report on Saturday. So we'll see if he's there. I don't know. I haven't heard any indication on either side. But, you know, two years removed, it kind of takes a little bit to get your wind back and get your stamina and realize getting hit, Seth, you know, getting hit is a different beast when you haven't been hit for two seasons. I guess it's kind of like when you have kids, right?

13:23and you're through the toddler stage and then you all of a sudden have another kid and you're like, man, I got to go back into the toddler stage. We were already through this already. Yeah, I think that's the thing of it is like, I can imagine myself stepping away from wrestling for say a year or two. And then I would imagine the mental fortitude that you have to have to go, okay, I'm now going to step back in and I'm going to fully commit, not just for myself, but for my teammates. You know, you can't just like, oh, jump in, jump out. Like one thing that everybody that's ever played with Aaron Donald has ever said is that he is the best teammate.

14:02And, you know, you mentioned he wants to be in the trenches. He wants to be grinding TJ from start to finish. Like he's not a guy. He's not a Roman Reigns, right? He just don't want to show up from time to time, you know, toss the title around, look at my rings. You know, he's a man's man, right? he's a he's a he's a fighter he's a seth rollins he wants to be in there in the mix with his boys all the time so so i i feel like you gotta mentally kind of steal yourself and get ready for that like that's like okay to me that's the commitment more than anything i think physically dude he could go in and do the thing i think mentally it's like right am i gonna commit to what this takes for the entire season all the travel put the family stuff you know off to the side again after i've already i've done everything that i wanted to do in the league i i you know i'm a hall of famer as it is so it's like what is the reward at the end of this for him and maybe he just misses the game i don't know it's quite fascinating but you know like you know big daddy kane said he ain't there ain't gonna be no half stepping when it comes to aaron donald like he's in this he's going to be doing it to the highest level again because anything less is beneath him i would assume yes i mean yeah that is mentally he's got to prepare himself to go to combat with another man yeah so that takes that takes time to think that out and really you know ask yourself do i want this do i want this again yeah all the the hanging with the boys and the sundays yeah that's great but it's the work the other six days it's to getting yourself ready yeah it's tuesday to saturday like man do i want to go through that grind after i've been away from it for two years yeah and like you know tj like you're right he's there's no half stepping like he's he's not in there gonna be like all right i'll just be half the player i was and miles will pick up the slack like that's not the mindset that this guy has like he's gonna come in and compete with miles for the share of of those sacks like he wants to get after it you know he's not like oh yeah miles you have the glory no no no that's not how these alpha elite athletes he's a team player but i mean he wants to have the most impact he can absolutely like you know charles montgomery punk didn't come back to main event vengeance he came back because he was going to main event mania that's what aaron donald's doing right let's not compare those that's disgusting that's that hurts me that hurts me bad i i i don't know i don't know it's a very interesting situation one last question they're obviously super bowl favorites now yep honestly the crazy question that I have here is if he comes back, are we talking about a proper undefeated season here?

16:43Is that out of the question? Well, I think, you know. That's hard to do. We were here the day that Teron Armstead was here, the day Miles Garrett got traded, and he immediately was like, oh, they're going undefeated. And that was without the idea of Aaron Donald coming back. So now it's like, okay, well. Well, that was his first blush. He actually did the one loss game, and he gave him. He gave him a lot. Oh, okay. Well, he said they would lose. It was the last game of the year. Yeah. He thought they would be 16. Yeah. Yeah, we're going to rest everyone. You're not going to be that close and not.

17:14No. You got to go. An undefeated season, though, guys. It's been, what, 54 years now? I don't know, man. I just don't know if that's ever going to happen. That's what they said until the Patriots were this close. But they didn't do it. Didn't do it. Didn't do it. Couldn't get the job done when it mattered most. That's true. It hurts. Eli got him. Thanks. Again. Thanks for that. Some people. Remember, I'm on your side. Yeah, we'll be right back. I'm on your side. We'll be back. We'll give Brockman some more. How about the Patriots? Mike Vorkanoff coming up next. Great last name. Can't wait to get into him.

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20:28Was that one of those exits where there's like up to Q or something like that? Yeah. Like I'm so lost. Well, Mike, we are talking about LeBron James in here, and we're on LeBron watch, and Brockman filled me in on him saying LeBron was a non-factor if he goes to Miami. So we kind of just want to get your take, get your feel. Like what are we thinking? How are we feeling about LeBron? Where might he go? What are all the whispers saying? And is he really going to be a non-factor in Miami? I mean, is that crazy talk from Brockman? Listen, I was a little confused. I was at Fanatics Fest last week, and I was sitting through the LeBron live pod taping.

21:08At some point, he was like, somebody on social media said I was going to make it a play-in team. And I was like, there's no way somebody actually said that. I thought he was just creating haters out of thin air, just, you know, for talking points. But now I know where it came from. He did misquote me, though, Mike. I didn't say wherever he went. I said specifically Miami. Okay. But still. I think it might be like a stretch too far to say that'd be a play-in team. The East is definitely going to be interesting wherever he goes. It's super competitive. You're right. There's like 10 teams that are all thinking they might be top six seeds and avoid the play-in tournament.

21:47But Miami has that problem of we don't know who will be doing the guard stuff for them. in my that's like my big basketball analysis um but i think if you have yannis and you have bam and you have lebron um they'll be able to figure it out and i think they probably avoid the play in tournament it's my guess that's do you feel like miami is the spot is that is that where we're leaning like what are the odds makers saying what does your gut tell you like i need to know i need to know where where is he gonna go i so it's it's really interesting i'm gonna give you this is my analysis is the fact that i was actually watching something the other day it was one of those netflix shows that was like behind the scenes of wwe and it was it was your storyline yeah about how you planned out your fake knee injury and there was like a thing where triple h is like only eight guys know and that's it and i think with lebron i think there's like three guys who know i and i think anyone else is probably lying to um they've done a great job of just like keeping it under wraps and I don't know I have no information I think pretty much everyone out there has no information and I don't know how long this is gonna go and I mean Philly Cleveland Miami maybe the Warriors maybe Minnesota like all those seem like plausible shots and he'll be doing it on a minimum near minimum contract which means he'll be one of the best values in the NBA no matter where he chooses it's just that if he goes to Philly or if he goes to Cleveland he kind of picks those teams up into title contender status, Minnesota 2.

23:21If he goes to the Warriors, if he goes to Miami, it's probably still a little bit more complicated of a path for those teams to get to the NBA Finals. So based on that analysis, it sounds to me like you think he already knows where he's going. But we've had recent reports of saying he's kind of waiting to see where some of these chips fall. Like, is Anthony Davis going to get moved? Kyrie Irving going to get moved? do you think he already has somewhere in mind and it's like kind of lock and key until the time is right or are there some chess moves at play here that he's waiting on i thought it was interesting last week he's like i'm not gonna hold you guys up too much longer um which i i took to mean as like he'd announce something pretty soon maybe that was more like in the larger picture you know like you know if it's three more weeks in the larger scale of things in 52 week year that's not too much longer.

24:16But here we are. It's been a week. We're still waiting to find out. I don't doubt that he's trying to see if he can get Anthony Davis or Kyrie Irving to join him. I think those are the reports. But I think he probably has a good idea. It's hard to make those trades. I don't know why those teams would be motivated to train those two good players. I don't know how many chips there are to fall, basically. We're in late July in the NBA offseason. A lot of the stuff's happened already. Yeah, that's the other thing. is like how long are these teams waiting for him to make a decision? You know, like I saw the other day the commissioner comes out and he's like, we're waiting on LeBron to get this scheduling done, which, you know, that's pretty wild.

25:00But I get it, I get it. You want your best players and your best games in the right times and stuff like that. I understand that. So that's wild. But like, I mean, how long are we waiting here before we start to, you know, try to rush this thing? Or is it just completely on LeBron's timeline? I think it's on the timeline because if he's willing to take, you know, minimum or fit into one of the exceptions, there's nothing that those teams have to do, right? They don't really have to, you know, make any trades to clear cap space or clear a roster spot is pretty easy. Funny enough, I think the NBA might be the one that's the most, you know, sweating this the most is that like usually the schedule comes out mid-August and they run all these algorithms and iterations of the schedule to make sure that they have the teams they want on Christmas Day.

25:44opening week. And I bet, you know, like some things get moved around depending on where LeBron goes. Like is Minnesota necessarily going to play on Christmas Day if LeBron's not on that team? Maybe not. Like same thing for, you know, Philly or, you know, Cleveland. Like things change automatically. And so they definitely would want to know where he's going to be so they can line up all those games and all their TV partners are happy. you can't change the schedule after it's been sent out. Yeah, you know, I think this is a bit of a, maybe a bit of a ruse on the NBA's part, because at this point for schedule making, they just got an AI, like they just press a button and it just makes the schedule, right?

26:30I mean, they're just numbers at this point. It's just a grid system, you know? Yeah, and Rich brought this up too. It's not like the teams that he's deciding wouldn't be on Christmas Day or possibly opening night anyway. Just plug them into those dates. Yeah. They've already looked at the teams. They've probably plugged them in. Okay, here's the schedule if he goes to Minnesota. Here's the schedule. That's chaos. I don't buy that for you. Mike, where do you think is the best basketball fit? Because I guess ultimately for LeBron, it's about winning championships and trying to kind of just add to his legacy in the next year or two or however many years he's going to keep playing.

27:09yeah I mean I think there's a really good argument that the best basketball fit might be in Minnesota um and Edwards is there Rudy Gobert uh Jalen McDaniels and uh and you know Lamella Ball problem is if you go to Minnesota the Spurs and OKC are still out west right and so that that complicates your path to getting to the finals let alone winning a title and it's just a little bit easier in the east you know the Knicks definitely are a great team they just won the title, but, you know, there's just not as many top end teams. So if you go to Philly, all of a sudden, that's pretty interesting. Cleveland, like they will, you know, they got to the Eastern Conference finals last year.

27:48So you throw LeBron in there. That's pretty interesting. And so, you know, to your point, Miami, we were disagreeing about this earlier, but like that gets you closer to being, I think, a finals contender with those three. And, you know, So to maximize the best team, he'd probably go out west. But to maximize his title chances, it's probably east somewhere. Does the fact that James Harden and Draymond Green, they're still technically free agents, is that factoring into any of this? I think that's just more so for cap and roster management purposes, right? If you know you're getting LeBron or you're not getting LeBron, then that can dictate what kind of contract you give those guys and how much money they're able to make next season more so than it does of like, no, like, you know, there's nowhere Draymond Green can go at this point, right?

28:35Like James Harden, there's nowhere he's going to go at this point. It's really just, if I'm coming back to those two teams, it's like for how much and how long and what's that contract that'll look like. Yeah. You know, you mentioned that there's no elite teams that like, but what I took out of that is the parody in the league right now is so even it makes for such exciting basketball. This is not like Kevin Durant going to the Warriors when they were perennial championship favorites again. This is totally different. So you can slide LeBron into any one of these contenders whether it be East or West.

29:11I know TJ would love to see LeBron in a Sixers. Oh man, I can't wait because it's going to happen. What's up Mike? TJ here. Just got a question for you. First of all, I love your name. It sounds like you'd be part of an 80s tag team with Nikolai Volkov back in the day. but uh i know you've done a deep dive into my guy kawaii leonard so tell me man what's happening what what's going on with kawaii i'm also a clippers fan we don't have time to get into that but is it still going to get go through is it going to get held up like what's happening uh tj that would be great i'd love to be part of an 80s tag team i'd have to play the bad guy with the russian name there's no other output obviously Yeah, unfortunately, that's where we were in those days.

29:52Yeah. I mean, I don't, listen, it's another waiting game. Like, I wish I had better things to say other than like, just we're all going to wait for eternity. But that's where it stands. You know, the investigation I think is over. Now the NBA is kind of like sifting through what the law firm they hired has found, deciding whether there's a punishment or not that it then wants to levy. And the process forward is like a little bit complicated. you know they can maybe reach a settlement if they feel like there's a punishment and something to do there with the Clippers and Steve Ballmer and you know the MVPA will get involved and obviously Kawhi if there's something there for him too but the CBA says the process is you almost go to like a trial right you present your case so to speak to a system arbitrator who then rules if the charges that uh or the punishment that you want to levy if there's punishment to levy will stick and if it makes sense and so that can make things go longer and then there's an appeals process that's also written into the cva so that can make the process go even longer right so there's a bit of a known unknown here coming up you know i reported uh i think it was last week time has kind of lost all meaning for me but last week that you know now the the investigation part of the reason might have stretched on is that they were looking into um you know if there's a potential second contract out there uh with the clippers and involving kawaii leonard and so that's something that the investigation looked into.