Hour 1: Knicks End Title Drought, USMNT’s Promising World Cup Opener, plus ESPN’s Mike Breen

15 Jun 2026 · 47 min · 18 chapters

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In short

Rich Eisen’s Hour 1 celebrates the New York Knicks winning the NBA championship, highlights key moments from Game 5 (Jalen Brunson’s 45 points and late comebacks), and pivots to the U.S. men’s national team’s strong World Cup opener vs Paraguay.

Guests

ESPN NBA broadcaster Mike Breen; ESPN host Jeremy Schaap (World Cup coverage); ESPN host Mike Greenberg (NBA Finals discussion); Villanova head coach Jay Wright (Knicks/Villanova connection).

Guest backgrounds

Breen is a long-time play-by-play voice, calling the NBA Finals for ABC/ESPN for 21 consecutive seasons; Schaap is an ESPN journalist who covered the U.S. vs Paraguay match in Los Angeles; Greenberg is an ESPN studio host (Get Up); Wright is a former Villanova coach and NBA champion.

Key claims

Knicks’ title was fueled by perseverance, team character, and Brunson’s late-game “god mode” (including a one-on-one vs Victor Wembanyama).

Notable examples

Knicks down 10+ early, then tied late; Brunson’s left-handed off-the-glass move over Wembanyama; 13 straight fourth-quarter points; U.S. vs Paraguay: Pulisic, Reyna’s goal, and Balogun’s two goals plus a run of 23 consecutive successful touches.

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Celebrating the Knicks Championship

0:04 to 0:21

Rich shares his elation about the Knicks winning the NBA Championship.

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Celebrating the Knicks Championship

1:45 to 3:42

Rich shares his elation about the Knicks winning the NBA Championship.

“In addition to the Rich Eisen Show, what a day it is in this neighborhood.”

Rich's Knicks Fan Journey

3:46 to 6:18

Rich recounts his history as a Knicks fan and significant moments.

“and one of the first places I went to in New York City as a sports fan was Madison Square Garden.”

Jalen Brunson's Impact

6:20 to 11:22

Rich discusses Jalen Brunson's pivotal role in the playoffs and finals.

“When he showed up, this photograph of him holding the Larry OB in his right hand and the Bill Russell MVP trophy in his left was a pipe dream, an absolute pipe dream.”

Team Dynamics and Sacrifices

11:24 to 14:00

Exploring how team dynamics and sacrifices contributed to the Knicks' success.

“This is what Knicks fans were dreaming of, and the fact that Ewing can smile and hold a trophy is exactly why Knicks fans cannot believe what's happening.”

Knicks Championship Reflection

14:00 to 23:20

Discussion on the Knicks' historic championship win and team dynamics.

“Barrett and Emmanuel quickly for him and then we're going to go trade Julius Randle and the Big Raghu A.”

Impact of the Knicks' Win

25:49 to 28:01

Mike Breen discusses the significance of the Knicks' championship for New York.

“It's, you know, we keep saying that sports is the great unifier.”

The Importance of Jalen Brunson's Character

28:01 to 29:16

Discover how Jalen Brunson's qualities contribute to the Knicks' success.

“And then when you have your star player be the kind of young man that Jalen Brunson is, from a player to his toughness, to his will of never giving up, to overcoming all the, yeah, he's good, but stuff.”

Memorable Moments from the Playoffs

29:16 to 30:14

Reflect on key moments from Jalen Brunson's playoff journey.

“I took the entire inside the NBA postgame because the number of times I've watched those guys on TNT rightfully disparage the Knicks and their plans and their results just to take that all in.”

Influential Figures in Jalen's Journey

30:14 to 31:42

Explore the influences that shaped Jalen Brunson as a player.

“You know, it was like from the, I remember the first playoff series he had in the second round, they had a chance, they got a big win against Miami and extended the series.”
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Emotional Connections to Knicks History

31:42 to 34:18

Hear about the emotional ties to Knicks history and personal anecdotes.

“I think when I got back to my hotel room that night, I probably had about 400 texts.”

Clyde Frazier and Generational Leadership

34:18 to 35:59

Learn about Clyde Frazier's perspective on the current Knicks team.

“Mike, this photo that we have on the screen, if you wouldn't mind putting it up right there.”

Marv Albert's Influence on Broadcasting

35:59 to 37:25

Understand how Marv Albert shaped Mike Breen's career and style.

“He could play in any era because that's the kind of game that Clyde had, and that's the kind of game that Jalen has.”

Numerology and Knicks Championship Significance

37:25 to 39:48

Discover the significance of numbers in the Knicks' championship narrative.

“So a lot of thoughts, a lot of emotions over the last couple of days.”

Upcoming World Cup Insights with Jeremy Shapp

41:49 to 42:00

Tease insights from Jeremy Shapp about the U.S. Men's National Team and the World Cup.

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Reflections on Game Attendance

42:10 to 44:10

Discussion about the regret of missing live sports events and LA sports culture.

“He's one of the few people on ESPN that you have to, when you recount what he's saying, imitate him.”

USMNT World Cup Performance

44:10 to 46:04

Analysis of the USMNT's performance against Paraguay and expectations for the World Cup.

“Because for six years you sat here and tried to crack on me about not wanting to leave the house and go to places.”

Key Moments in the Match

46:04 to 47:23

Highlights and key plays from the USMNT match, including a standout goal.

“And, you know, Fallon Balogun with two goals, he could have had a third potentially.”
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0:01Rich Eisen:This episode is brought to you by Google Chrome. You think you know a browser, but Gemini and Chrome, that's new. It can help you with practically anything on the web, like restoring a vintage motorcycle from a 50-page restoration block, or finally break down that long article you've had open for weeks. Gemini and Chrome is here for it. Ready to make anything online make sense? There's no place like Chrome. Check responses set up required. Compatibility and availability varies 18+.

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1:25Rich Eisen:Today's guests. ESPN NBA broadcaster Mike Breen, host of ESPN's Get Up Mike Greenberg, ESPN host Jeremy Schaap, two-time National Championship head coach Jay Wright. And now, it's Rich Eisen. In addition to the Rich Eisen Show, what a day it is in this neighborhood. To say the least, we've got ourselves a whole bunch of guests lined up for this busy Monday program. We've got our friend Mike Breen, who just called the NBA Finals for ABC and ESPN first up. Jeremy Schaap, my longtime friend from back in the day, still with ESPN, is joining us here in studio, top of our number two. Talk about the World Cup victory for the United States that he was present for and covering for ESPN on Friday night right here in Los Angeles, California.

2:18Rich Eisen:What a performance that was. We'll talk about that with him. Mike Greenberg, my buddy who is the subject of the latest edition of This Was Sports Center, for everybody to check out my Memory Lane Nostalgia podcast series. He's joining us in the middle of this hour to talk about the NBA Finals. Same thing with Jay Wright, Villanova coach, as three Nova Knicks now have rings. 844-204-RICH is that number to dial right here on the program. Good to see you over there, Chris Brockman. What's going on? Rich, what's up, man? Congratulations. Thank you, sir. Jason Feller, good to see you over there. I am feeling good.

2:52Rich Eisen:TJ Jefferson candle is lit. Rich Eisen, basketball guy. Forget the football. He's all hoops. The Knicks, you know, he's a b-ball guy. I don't know what's going on. Honestly, the headline is, and I think I speak for everybody in New York, Knick fandom. I don't know what's going on. I don't know what to feel other than pure elation and still, to this moment, disbelief that it's finally happened. You're like Will Ferrell in Old School? I blacked out. What just happened? Pretty much. I'm screaming for meatloaf from the basement. You know, I'm still in disbelief. Just look at that. This very moment, this morning, was just the second day in my natural-born life that I could remember waking up and saying to myself, the New York Knicks are NBA champions.

3:42Rich Eisen:I was three years old the last time it happened. and one of the first places I went to in New York City as a sports fan was Madison Square Garden. I grew up there and in Yankee Stadium going back and forth between those two places whenever I could get tickets, whenever my parents would take me. And again, the reason why I'm a Knick fan and a sports fan is because of my older brother. My dad, may he rest in peace, would still be talking about the opening to the Tony Awards from a few weeks ago, which, by the way, was spectacular if you saw it. I saw it pink up there. He wasn't much of a sports fan.

4:18Rich Eisen:My brother was. But still, even that, my dad, my mom would get my brother and I tickets. We'd all go as a family to Christmas Day games at Madison Square Garden. We would do that because it was a thing to do, to go see a Knicks game, take the ferry or drive into New York City from Staten Island and watch the Rory Sparrow-led Knicks of the 70s and then Michael Ray Richardson would show up and Bill Cartwright and Marvin Webster, the eraser, the human eraser. I remember we were all growing up. We were out there by summer camps and we once saw Marvin Webster in a local diner. My brother and I stopped.

5:03Rich Eisen:We couldn't breathe and you lost a real new york nick seven feet tall right bernard king showed up and and and patrick ewing showed up hubie brown was the coach uh on and on and on the ewing years that led to spreewell and grandmama and then you know carmelo and we're putting our faith in everybody and we're putting our faith in everything insanity we're we're just hoping this would be the year and then putting all of our hopes and dreams in a nice two-week run from Jeremy Lin. Lin's sanity was a high point for a lot of us.

5:45Rich Eisen:And then Jalen Brunson shows up. And nobody knew it at the time. Life changed as a Nick fan. I was sitting here at this desk, livid that Charles Oakley was left to sit in jail overnight because the owner of the Knicks, James Dolan, had a beef with him and sat there as his security with Phil Jackson trying to help out where that move didn't even help the New York Knicks, Phil Jackson joining the team as a front office executive. I said I was out on the Knicks and one person pulled me back in, Jalen Brunson. When he showed up, this photograph of him holding the Larry OB in his right hand and the Bill Russell MVP trophy in his left was a pipe dream, an absolute pipe dream.

6:40Rich Eisen:But nobody knew, none of us, none of us in the media, none of us in Knicks fandom knew what burned inside this young man. None of us knew what he was about to take us on. He pulled me back in as a Knicks fan. And what he did in this playoff run and what he did in this NBA finals, what he did on Saturday night is stuff that we as Knicks fans for 50 years dreamt could be possible, but never saw it embodied by somebody playing in a Knicks uniform, ever. Saturday night looked like another long night for the Knicks. They fell down by 10 points for at least the 10 points for the fifth straight game in the NBA Finals.

7:40Rich Eisen:By the way, it was game five Saturday night, so every single one of them. and it happened again where they couldn't make any shots, and it happened again that Carl Anthony Towns was in foul trouble, and it happened again that the Spurs showed up, and despite not shooting significantly well, well enough to take yet another double-digit lead in this game, 16 points being their largest lead. And who led them back? Jalen Brunson. this play would go down as the biggest play in the nba finals if it wasn't for ogian and obi's put back 83 77 knicks closed this large lead down to six 6 38 to go jalen brunson is one-on-one one v one to use the world cup phrase we're hearing all the time he's one v one with victor Wembanyama out by the three-point arc and he breaks Wemby down with a dribble and I'm sitting there going he's not really going to go to the rack with this is he makes a move with his left shoulder sort of like to create a little bit of space a shimmy and he goes to his right hand he's left-handed off the glass over Wembenyama.

9:07One-on-one beat Victor Wembenyama to give them a four-point deficit

9:13Rich Eisen:in the midst of a 10-0 run during which Brunson scored all 10 points. God mode. They went from 10 down with 821 to go to tied with 448 to go. And after Vassell made a shot to put the Spurs up by two, Brunson deked out the defense at the three-point line and earned himself a trip to the free throw line with three free throws and made them all. He scored 13 straight points of his 15 points in the fourth quarter to score 45 points. The most in a finals game by a Knicks player and tied for the most points in an NBA Finals road closeout game. His name is right now next to Michael Jordan, the guy who was damn near single-handed, the guy who kept Patrick Ewing ringless this entire time and made my life miserable.

10:26Rich Eisen:there's others we understand Reggie, Hakeem we could go down the list but Michael Jordan if there were we if we had Mariska Hart gay dust for prints on why Patrick Ewing was ringless this entire time you'd find Michael Jordan's fingerprints going back to college going back to college says the Georgetown fan correct he got one but still and look who now has a photograph smiling with the Larry O 'B in his hand next to the guy holding the Bill Russell trophy in his hand. I have goosebumps. This makes me want to cry. Patrick Ewing is holding the Larry O 'Brien trophy because the kid next to him, who he's known since he was two, because Rick Brunson played with Ewing in 99 when the Spurs prevented the Knicks from getting somewhere because the basketball gods had Patrick Ewing injured for that series.

11:25Rich Eisen:This is what Knicks fans were dreaming of, and the fact that Ewing can smile and hold a trophy is exactly why Knicks fans cannot believe what's happening.

11:45Rich Eisen:Somewhere, there needs to be an individual chiseling A statue of Jalen Brunson right now. Because these 45-point performances, these comebacks, that's been happening to the Knicks, not for the Knicks. I can't believe it. And we finally got Jalen Brunson to open up about what makes him tick. This is what he's had to say afterwards about finally getting to the mountaintop. We're just going to describe it, but I'll say I put a lot of time and effort into trying to be the best player I can be to try and help a team win.

12:37Just really thankful I have the organization, the coaching staff, my teammates to have my back every single day. I think that means the most to me. Yeah. He had his teammates back in game five.

12:56Rich Eisen:He scored 45. His teammates scored 49. Come on. Come on. That's wild. It sure is. These are facts. It's so funny how he just looks completely, you know, kind of pedestrian, just like an average NBA player for three quarters. And then in the fourth quarter, he looks like the greatest player ever. he had 30 in the first three because without his 30 in his first three there was not a fourth quarter comeback happening and he said basically they didn't want to go play game six at home i don't blame him tonight we played like we wanted to go home champions to finish the game not to start the game to finish the game um

13:45yeah

13:48it means the world to me to go on those court go on that court with those guys whatever environment we're in home or away

13:57Rich Eisen:doesn't matter for us and again I love that he talks about his teammates because again this is one of the greatest New York sports teams ever ever and how well they play with each other and for each other i saw a josh hart soundbite monica mcnutt elicited it for i think msg after the game where he said there was a lot of sacrifice on his part everybody wants to be the jalen brunson but a lot of people started understanding how this was all needing to work and josh hart being there and mikhail bridges being there and Carl Anthony Towns being there and OG Ananobi being re-signed to stay there it's because Jalen Brunson took 113 million less dollars fewer dollars than he could have gotten because he says build a team around me and Leon Rose was the executive of the moment to go got it got your back so we're going to add Bridges with five first round picks a lot of people for five first round picks and more there was like what are you doing we're going to keep OG Ananobi we're going to first of all trade R.J.

15:04Rich Eisen:Barrett and Emmanuel quickly for him and then we're going to go trade Julius Randle and the Big Raghu A. Nova Nick to go to Minnesota one of the more popular Knicks with Brunson in Julius Randle and bring back Carl Anthony Towns a jersey kid who has now got a ring and all of them together getting it done as Carl Anthony Towns was pointing out in support of the man, one of the greatest New York sports athletes of all time, Jalen Brunson. It always takes one person to believe in you. And this organization believed in him. We believed in him. And we were going to do whatever it takes to get him to that next level.

15:46Rich Eisen:And I think I speak for me and OG when I say, you know, it's been an honor to be brought to this team to amplify him. and Leon, Gers, everybody for believing in us and seeing what we could be and seeing also that what we could do when other people said we couldn't do that. And for two of the three trades, which I say three for three, they went. Two of the three trades up here right now that people said, what the hell are they doing? Obviously, they knew better than them. So shout out to them. And speaking of what the hell were they doing as we now see Carl Anthony Towns holding the Larry O 'Brien trophy on our screen.

16:27Rich Eisen:Speaking of what the hell were they doing from this chair? I was saying exactly that. When they were going through a head coaching search because they bounced Tom Thibodeau after highly successful playoff seasons, but not close enough. And they basically what?

16:52Rich Eisen:they shot before they aimed or they aimed before they fired and then hit the wrong target because you fired the guy and then your plan was to knock on the doors of every single other top hot coach that was under contract somewhere else only to get them to either sign a new deal and use the Knicks as leverage for their spot to stay there or to have teams just say new phone who it is we're not giving you permission get out of here and then you land on mike brown and i'm like really really yeah really the man for the moment my god what a job he did mike brown i say this to you sir even though i live out in los angeles California your money is no good in New York City anymore no your money is no good in the city that never sleeps keep it in your pocket honestly if I'm ever in that man's restaurant he's not paying and if I ever hear he's in a restaurant and he's got a reach for his wallet No way.

18:09Rich Eisen:That's not happening. What a job he did.

18:17The New York Knicks never gave up. Ever. Think about this. They finished these finals with a margin of victory of 283 points.

18:34Rich Eisen:53 more than the closest team that's no longer holding the record the 2017 warriors who won 16 and one in sweeping their first three series all the way through the western conference they swept the blazers jazz and spurs before beating the calves four games to one after the calves the year before came back from a three games to one deficit on them so you're like oh they blew all these games out. But they also, in having this record, have the fifth, third, and first ranked comebacks in the history of the NBA Finals, and they did it all in the same finals. The biggest comeback, third biggest comeback, fifth biggest comeback in the same NBA Finals, while also blowing the hell out of everybody else on the way to it.

19:31Rich Eisen:It was a wild ride, man. So they did it all and kept their composure. Mike Brown, take a victory lap, sir. I couldn't believe that it was happening. And I am so tired. I mean, I'm gassed. And, you know, this stuff is harder than what you think. and you have to have great assistants, you have to have great players, but I was gassed. And I'll never forget, in 2003, as an assistant here, and we won the championship, I'll never forget. I was on the other bench when the buzzer went off. I was sitting in my chair. All I did was lean back in my chair, and I sat there. I felt like for 10 minutes, it was probably 30 seconds, but I just wanted to breathe.

20:23Rich Eisen:I want to breathe, and that's what I wanted to do today. It was so real. I was tired, and then I wanted to find my family.

20:33Rich Eisen:One of the most likable teams, which is another trick to pull off, because we New Yorkers are obnoxious.

20:42Rich Eisen:Obnoxious. And you kind of want to hug him. You want to hug Brunson. You want to hug Kat.

20:51Rich Eisen:Unbelievable what just played out.

20:58Rich Eisen:Unbelievable that the New York Knicks are the champions of the NBA and what they just did and how they did it and how they comported themselves and how Jalen Brunson is the avatar of exactly what you want your son to be, your star to be and I'm even so happy I would hug James Dolan no you wouldn't for a split second it wouldn't be a deep hug and then tell him to let Oakley back in the building but for the moment he did it he did it he did it and I don't know in the same way that Steinbrenner got you know suspended and the Yankees build themselves a A championship team in the 90s hiring somebody that a lot of people thought was a retread.

21:50Rich Eisen:Right?

21:55Rich Eisen:And in the same way that happened, maybe the sphere was that way for Dolan. Hey, go take care of your sphere. Let Leon Rose do the rest. Okay? Go make your sphere looking great, which he, by the way, has. It's cool. Pretty cool. Oh, my God. All of it. I cannot believe it has worked. And Bronson, again, is up there. Name it. Name if. Walt Frazier. Derek Jeter. All of them. All of them. Mookie Wilson. All of them. But in that respect, I know you're trolling a little bit there. I'm not trolling. Okay. No, no, no. All-time greats. All-time greats. But the reason why, again, I got texts of can't believe this is happening.

22:43Rich Eisen:Congrats for us, all of us. Half of them were Mets fans who I'm on a text chain normally saying, good team you got there. Normally we are button heads. But right now we're all in the same boat. That's what the Knicks do for New York City. That's why the streets are filled like that. Because everybody roots for the Knicks and everybody's been waiting.

23:10Unreal.

23:14Rich Eisen:844-204-RICH is the number to dial right here on the Rich Eisen Show. Let's take a break. Mike Breen, who's professional. I mean, this is the voice of the Knicks. You couldn't tell calling these games. So he's next. This is the Rich Eisen Show.

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25:49The Rich Eisen Show podcast. It's, you know, we keep saying that sports is the great unifier. My son, Matt, who watched the, he's 29, he watched the game with some friends at one of their apartments in the city, and then afterwards, the game, they went out, and he said in about a three-block walk, he said, Dad, I hugged like 80 strangers. And when does that ever happen in New York?

26:18Rich Eisen:Hey, man, you know, my wife printed out Stevie Nicks T-shirts, you know um the one that taylor swift wore the other day so i was wearing walking the dog with her yesterday in los angeles and there was a guy with a nick hat walking the other way and he's like how great is life you know like we shared this moment in a small street in los angeles on on sunday and you know to your point mike breen by the way our has joined us here our radio audience has just returned the word fan is the root for the word fanatic you know like that is it. That's what we're describing here. And you've had a front row seat, quite literally, for all of these years.

26:59Rich Eisen:What do you think this championship for the Knicks means? It's one of the great, great moments in New York sports history for a number of reasons. First and foremost, New York has always been a basketball town. I mean, I've lived in New York my whole life, and we all love football, we all love basketball. I'm not saying one's more important than the other in terms of the fans, but there's just something about the city game being basketball. So that's number one. Number two, it's a team that pretty much the entire city gets behind, and it's a team that has struggled for so long, but the fans never went away, even in the rough years.

27:39And there were many rough years, as we all know. So to go from that and stick with them through thick and through thin and see not only a team that has success, But a team that is such representative of the city and the kind of people that you want, they're such high character individuals. They're all about the team, the way they carry themselves. That's a big part of it as well. And then when you have your star player be the kind of young man that Jalen Brunson is, from a player to his toughness, to his will of never giving up, to overcoming all the, yeah, he's good, but stuff. That's an important factor as well.

28:18And, you know, I said this the other day, and it might sound a little corny, but so Brunson has all these different characteristics that you want in your star player, that you want in your franchise player. One that sometimes goes underrated, he's extremely coachable. Even at this level, he's extremely coachable. And that's huge for a team to come together because if the rest of the team sees, OK, this guy's taken some some guff from the coach and the coach gets on him, not just the head coach, but of course, the assistant, namely one Rick Brunson, then then we can do it, too. So you put it all together and it just it becomes something really magical.

28:56And that's that's what we always hope for. That's the long, long term dream when we start rooting for a team to have a team like this.

29:02Rich Eisen:Yeah, I mean, and again, being such a fan that I am, Mike, I've spent, you know, probably too much time on my phone in the last 36 hours just scrolling for any, all of it, just soaking all of it in. I mean, your essay after the game five was perfect. Spot on. It was beautiful. I took that in. I took the entire inside the NBA postgame because the number of times I've watched those guys on TNT rightfully disparage the Knicks and their plans and their results just to take that all in. Right? I mean, soaking it all in. One video that keeps on popping up is Rick Brunson, I believe in the Atlanta series, down two games to one, just having a moment with Jalen where he's clearly telling him whatever Jalen's upset about or complaining about to knock it off.

29:55Rich Eisen:And I do remember when Rick Brunson was hired or brought on and kept on, you know, the narrative was they're coddling Jalen Brunson. And it's the exact opposite, right? So what would you say, what's your favorite Jalen Brunson story, Mike? What is that? It's hard to have an individual one. You know, it was like from the, I remember the first playoff series he had in the second round, they had a chance, they got a big win against Miami and extended the series. And of course the ball was in his hands. And he went in and he mishandled the play. And they didn't even get off a shot and they lose and they're eliminated.

30:36he was devastated like devastated and and that's really who he is it's you know everybody loves to win but how many are truly devastated um when they lose like that and that made him want to work harder and his work ethic is off the charts and i got i remember i took some um criticism for comparing his will and his mental toughness to kobe bryant but i think it's up there um is he as talented as Kobe Bryant? Nope. But I think Kobe Bryant would be the first one, God rest his soul, to say, boy, that's what I'm talking about and point to Jalen Brunson.

31:14Rich Eisen:I mean, again, you've been calling Knicks games forever in a day. And I know you got to play it down the middle and you're such a pro. You're so good at what you do, Mike. But I'm wondering, who are you thinking about from your early days on a day like today? Who are you, you know, reminiscing with or thinking about? There's been a lot. And that's part of the fun is all the text. I think when I got back to my hotel room that night, I probably had about 400 texts. And most of them were Nick fans. Obviously, a lot of friends, co-workers, et cetera. But a lot of them were Nick fans. And one of the people, of course, I think it was my dad.

32:01I was one of six boys. So in our house, sports was not an option. And we just loved whatever team that my dad rooted for. And my dad was a he was a Marine and a construction worker, a tough guy. And I always thought he was the strongest man in the world. And I used to think that Dave DeBuscher was the second strongest. So that's the influence that he had on me. So that's who I think. And really, quite honestly, Rich, it's been so much fun sharing it with my kids. And they're not kids anymore. They're young adults at 34, 33 and 29, two boys and a girl. And they just they just love the Knicks and they go to the games and, you know, they saw a lot of bad basketball growing up.

32:47So for them to really enjoy it, my wife and my daughter are Villanova grads. You can imagine how much they love the Nova Knicks. So that's what we said earlier. It's sharing with so many people the joy of it coming together like this, and especially a team like this that carries themselves like this, that play like this.

33:08Rich Eisen:Have you connected with Clyde? Yeah, I saw him after the game. What was that like? It was so wonderful. He's my friendship with Clyde is one of the blessings of my life. And he I've never heard him talk about any other Knick team with the kind of reverence he talks about this team. He doesn't compare anybody to the 70, 70 team especially, but the 70 and 73. He thinks this team reminds him of that. He doesn't compare anyone to Willis Reed. Willis Reed was his role model, was his idol till the day Willis passed away. and he says that Jalen Brunson reminds him of Willis Reed in terms of, you know, that silent but tough leader.

33:51So he was more emotional than I thought, and it was wonderful to see. Patrick Ewing was so emotional after the game, and the Knicks have done a great job bringing him back and making him a real part of the team in terms of using his counsel and letting him talk to the players and letting them work with the players. And Patrick was so emotional after the game. And he says, I'm finally getting my ring. I mean, how do you not get emotional that he said something like that?

34:20Rich Eisen:Mike, this photo that we have on the screen, if you wouldn't mind putting it up right there. I mean, I didn't shed a tear on Saturday night. I was just taking it all in because I was in such disbelief. This photograph where he's smiling because he's holding the Larry O 'Brien trophy. Patrick Ewing gets to hold this trophy. And Brunson is standing next to him. And again, they've known each other, right? Patrick said he's known Brunson since he was two because he was teammates with Rick. And Brunson's face here is basically saying, yeah, I'm so proud that I could make this moment happen. That's the way I'm looking at it.

35:00Rich Eisen:I'm wondering how you take this photograph in. Yeah, there's such respect there. And often there's a disconnect between the way the older players approach and today's players approach in the game we know is so different. But a lot of the most important parts are not different. And I think that Clyde has, and he's talked about it on the air and he's talked about it off the air. He has such reverence for the way Jalen handles his business. and Jalen is, you know, he brought up his mom and dad did an amazing job, not only in terms of getting him ready to be one of the great players in the game today, but to appreciate what came before him.

35:44And he's been so respectful to Clyde as well. And it's just, I think it's like Clyde looks at him like, you could have played on our team. And he doesn't say that a lot about it. And Jalen could have been, he could have played on that team. He could play in any era because that's the kind of game that Clyde had, and that's the kind of game that Jalen has.

36:05Rich Eisen:Another person that I'm thinking about today, Mike, and I'm curious as to whether you connected with him or not, is the guy who preceded you and one of the many reasons why I do what I do for a living in Marv Albert and what he must be thinking today, Mike. Yeah, we haven't talked since the clinch, but we have been texting prior to that. And he loves watching it as well. And, you know, it's funny, like you say, who you think of. But while I'm calling the game, it's Marv inside of me. I mean, I watched him so much. He's one of the reasons why I fell in love with doing this as a profession. His influence on how I call a game, certainly not, I don't have his iconic poise, but the way I call a game, the way I approach the profession, so much for me.

36:53So I hope for some of that there. You know, I actually, and I'm a little mad at myself. Howie Singer, the longtime producer-director, I said to him, you know, I'm going to, I'm one of these Nick baskets. I'm going to, tonight I'm going to yell, yes, and it counts as a little tribute. And it just, it never came. You know, it had to be a certain play and it just never came out. But, you know, think about him. I think about Johnny Andres, Johnny Hoops, Johnny Andres, who was one of my dearest friends, Al Troutwig, people that were there. There's just, there's so many people that we work with that were part of that, that you think about.

37:30So a lot of thoughts, a lot of emotions over the last couple of days.

37:34Rich Eisen:And I don't know if you're a numerologist, you know the number that hangs in the rafters of Madison Square Garden. Yeah, we said it on the air. Red Holtzman, 613 career wins, 613 in the date that the Knicks won the championship. Right. And you know who sent me, we had had that ready to use, but I got a text before the game from Pete DeBuscher, Dave's son, to tell me the same thing. And again, another connection. And Ian O 'Connor wrote a wonderful piece about Dennis and Pete, Dave's two boys, and who their favorite player was. and it was O.G. Ananobi because he played kind of the same way. There were a lot of similarities with the way they played and what they meant to the team, what their role was with the team as their dad Dave was.

38:21Rich Eisen:Well, I know you've just finished a very long season and a long travel back to your spot there. And I know you're going to probably head to the golf course, but are you part of the parade? Are you going Thursday? They haven't finalized plans yet. Yes, I'm going to be part of the parade. There's not a chance I would miss that. It's as a Nick fan, as a Nick broadcaster, and just as a New York sports fan, I think it's going to be something pretty special. I've had people tell me, Michael K., my best buddy, who had a chance. Right? Yep. And he did the Yankees, and he said there's nothing like it. There's nothing like it.

38:59Rich Eisen:The ticker tape coming down, you know? Right. I can't even imagine. Can't even imagine. Well, again, great job. You're so great. at what you do, Mike, and I truly appreciate you taking the time to share. Honestly, I, I, I, I can't believe this is happening. And I, I love your perspective and I'm, I'm so appreciative of being able to have you on to share it. Thank you. It's my pleasure. Right back at you, Rich. Thank you. Let's let's do this again shortly. That's Mike Breen right here on the Rich Eisen show, fresh off of calling the NBA finals for 21st consecutive season. 6-13 was the date the Knicks won it all.

39:39Rich Eisen:That's the same number of wins Red Holtzman had as a Knicks coach. And that number is hanging from a banner in Madison Square Garden where the newest banner will be hung. And I just don't know if this is true or not. You don't know what's true or not on socials. But Saturday night apparently was, if you add the high school, college, and professional wins of Carl Anthony Towns, that now equals 613 as well. Whoa. I don't know if you're a numerologist or not, but that was incredible. Bang, as Mike Breen might say. Or bing bong, as somebody who's threatening to call into the show, O'Shea Jackson Jr., texted all of us on Saturday night.

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42:10Rich Eisen:um jeremy shapp's in our green room we're gonna bring him out in about 11 minutes time uh he's in town to uh cover the the world cup he was there friday night i said i thought i I read in a tweet like it was your 14th World Cup match. No, it's my 14th U.S. men's national team. Jeez. He's one of the few people on ESPN that you have to, when you recount what he's saying, imitate him. Him, Berman. Yeah. There's very few of them, right? Jeremy Shepp. ESPN. He's in our green room. We'll talk World Cup with him. Um, listen, there are some times that I regret things in sports where I have an opportunity to go to the game and I, I, I don't take that opportunity.

43:02Rich Eisen:And, and I always grew up as you know, this just in, uh, in New York city. and I would look at LA sports fans arriving late, leaving early, traffic is a problem. Like, are you a fan or not? I would sit there from the comfort of my Staten Island basement. That is an East Coast mind. You know what I mean? Like, come on. These are such soft people, these Los Angeles sports fans. That's what I would say growing up. Now I'm one of them. Fact. Passionate Rams fan. And my youngest son accuses me of doing and being. So when the U.S. men's national team is taking on Paraguay on Friday night, I'm like, really?

43:50Rich Eisen:I'm going to go to SoFi. I'm going to deal with parking. I'm going to deal with this. Deal with that. Really? I'm going to go. Did you go? No. Sitting at home saying, man, I wish it was there. Yeah, same. That's what I did. I know. I wish I was there. I saw that scene and I'm like, why the hell am I sitting in my living room? Wow. This is wild. Why? Because for six years you sat here and tried to crack on me about not wanting to leave the house and go to places. And here you are doing the same thing. You live down the street. Doesn't matter. It's not the point. Oh, no, it's the point. Proximity is not what he's talking about.

44:22Rich Eisen:Oh, sure it is. I don't have a helicopter, sir. It's back there. To get from. I'm just saying. I mean, it would be worse for Chris. There's two words I don't ever want to deal with in this town, and it's called Sepulveda Pass. Right? Ever. That's like the Van Wick. 405. That's an unbeatable situation. But at any rate, I digress. What a scene. What a performance. Yeah. And again, I'm no soccer historian. But when we had Greg Berhalter, former U.S. men's national team coach here in person on Friday, And I'm like, what's a successful World Cup for these guys? And he's like winning multiple knockout round matches.

45:10Rich Eisen:And I'm sitting here thinking to myself, all right. Yeah, I mean, I've never seen that. Okay. Multiple knockout round matches. And his point was like, hey, this has been an eight-year plan. When I first arrived, he was a former player for the U.S. men's national team, former head coach, and his son's now on the team, and he's with MLS, and he's talking about how this has been a long time coming. Like, this is the moment that they've been all waiting for here on this home turf. And then they came out and hit Paraguay in the mouth. And, you know, the second half wasn't as good as the first. You know, Pulisic came out.

45:53Rich Eisen:Hopefully he's healthy for the next few, at least two matches and games in their group D but they were outstanding they were crisp they were decisive they were smart they were great explosive they were on the attack they were putting shots on net that is something we haven't seen out of the US men's team maybe ever and then that Reyna goal to wrap it where he booted it and I turn to Cooper his friend Jackson we're sitting there watching it as a family also and I'm like was that off the outside of his right foot like he didn't use his left foot which is what one would think based on his positioning and his momentum it was filthy awesome Awesome.

46:55Rich Eisen:And, you know, Fallon Balogun with two goals, he could have had a third potentially. He could almost had a hat trick. I think the Reina goal, I watched back, there were 23 consecutive successful touches amongst the entire team before he uncorked it. Awesome. The Ridge Eyes and Show Podcast. You can't reason with a son. Trust us, we've tried. This summer, it's time to put that angry ball of fire on mute. Columbia's OmniShade technology is engineered to protect you from the sun's harsh rays that can burn and damage your skin. The sun is relentless, but so is our gear. Level up your summer at Columbia.com to spend more time outside and less time slathering on aloe lotion.

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Knicks fan Rich basks in Jalen Brunson leading New York to its first NBA
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