Hour 1: Knicks’ Parade Reactions, plus Taylor Twellman Talks USMNT/World Cup

18 Jun 2026 · 46 min · 20 chapters

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In short

Rich Eisen and guests react to the New York Knicks’ championship “Canyon of Heroes” parade in Manhattan, then pivot to Taylor Twellman’s World Cup analysis (USMNT performance, upcoming matches, and broader tournament storylines).

Guest backgrounds

Taylor Twellman is ESPN World Cup analyst and Apple TV lead MLS analyst. Hugh Jackman appears later (Hour 3) as an actor promoting The Death of Robin Hood.

Key claims

Knicks fans have waited 53 years; Jalen Brunson leads the parade with the Larry O’Brien trophy; James Dolan’s past comments are mocked, including roster/second-april spending limits. Twellman argues the USMNT’s World Cup opener (vs Paraguay) was among the greatest US men’s performances ever, praising swagger, movement, and dictating play (not just scoreline). He says the result is repeatable vs Australia, though Australia’s pace on counters will test defenders.

Notable examples

Clyde Frazier, Patrick Ewing, Bernard King, Brunson; USMNT’s Giovanni Reyna goal build-up; Australia counterattack; Messi’s hat trick and Ronaldo/Portugal debate; Norway’s two tall forwards (Erling Haaland mentioned).

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Upcoming Guests and Topics

0:04 to 0:26

Rich discusses the guests for the show, including Taylor Twelman and Hugh Jackman.

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Upcoming Guests and Topics

1:23 to 2:16

Rich discusses the guests for the show, including Taylor Twelman and Hugh Jackman.

“James Dolan, he said at one point, when we win the championship, he turned into Oprah.”

Dueling Top Fives and NFL Quarterbacks

2:16 to 3:00

Rich teases a segment about NFL quarterbacks under pressure this season.

“He's going to be on in hour number three.”

Knicks Championship Parade Excitement

3:00 to 4:52

Rich expresses excitement about the Knicks' championship parade in NYC.

“And if the World Cup today, if the World Cup today sounds differently to you, it doesn't sound as crisp.”

Reactions to Parade Footage

4:52 to 7:30

Rich reacts live to footage from the Knicks' championship parade.

“It couldn't have smelled great in there.”

Jalen Brunson and Parade Highlights

7:30 to 10:00

Discussion on Jalen Brunson's role in the parade and fan reactions.

“The Bernie and Ernie show is what I grew up with.”

James Dolan's Comments and Reflections

10:00 to 12:06

Rich reflects on James Dolan's comments about the Knicks and their future.

“He wore a 10 weeks T-shirt to the parade today in reference to James Dolan's speech that gives me 10 weeks of apparently this got cut out of the speech that was posted on the Jalen Brunson Josh Hart podcast site.”

Cultural Impact of the Knicks

12:06 to 14:01

Discussion on the cultural significance of the Knicks' victory and parade.

“Oh, and Hoskins put up that one thing that I did see from the parade that I sent before.”

Knicks Championship Parade Reactions

14:01 to 17:47

Hear the hosts discuss the Knicks' championship parade and share their excitement about the event.

“The I Am A 1A Dude t-shirt in various colors.”

World Cup Group Play Insights

17:48 to 19:08

The hosts transition to discussing the World Cup and its importance for teams in group play.

“Hey, at least Momdottie's filling potholes there.”
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Analysis of USMNT Performance

21:21 to 28:01

Taylor Twellman joins to discuss the US Men's National Team's performance in the World Cup.

“men's national team performance ever anywhere at any time in a big event.”

Analyzing USMNT's Game Performance

28:01 to 29:40

Learn about Taylor Twelman's insights on the US Men's National Team's performance and strategies against Australia.

“Taylor Twelman, how repeatable is the United States men's national team game one performance?”

England's World Cup Potential

29:41 to 30:49

Discover why Taylor Twelman believes England has an unprecedented depth of talent in this World Cup.

“I still think France is the best team in the World Cup, but I'll tell you right now, if England want to play that way, you got my attention.”

Erling Haaland's Impact on Norway

30:50 to 32:45

Hear Taylor's analysis of Erling Haaland and Norway's performance in the World Cup, highlighting their unconventional strategy.

“And we were talking about if Gronk played soccer.”

Messi's Historic World Cup Moments

32:46 to 34:04

Learn about Messi's remarkable performances and personal circumstances during the World Cup.

“We were talking about how in a stadium that Patrick Mahomes plays all his big moments in, Messi's hat trick in a World Cup match is top five in the history of this stadium.”

Cape Verde's World Cup Chances

34:05 to 36:31

Taylor discusses the prospects of Cape Verde advancing in the World Cup, highlighting potential strategies and player performance.

“They are defying everybody, including myself, and the fact that he turns 39 in this World Cup and could win the Golden Boot, you've got to be kidding me, Rich.”

Ronaldo's Role in Portugal's Strategy

36:32 to 39:18

Insights into how Cristiano Ronaldo's style impacts Portugal's play and strategy in the World Cup.

“He's got more followers than I think Wembenyama and SGA and Jalen Brunson combined.”

NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell Joins the Show

42:00 to 42:40

The introduction of NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell and upcoming discussions about women's sports.

“The commissioner of the National Football League, Roger Goodell, will join Susie and Renee and Sarah.”

Caller Comments on Knicks' Championship

42:40 to 44:19

A caller expresses congratulations to Rich about the Knicks breaking their championship drought and engages in some friendly banter.

“number to dial kenye in washington dc back on the program what's up sir hey what's up shall man.”

Discussion on Quarterbacks Under Pressure

44:19 to 45:36

The hosts discuss their differing opinions on which quarterbacks are under the most pressure this season.

“the top five quarterback pressure, I believe that Jalen Hurts will have a lot to prove with a new offensive system coming in and that we're free of the cancer A.J.”
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0:53Rich Eisen:See homedepot.com slash price match for details. This is The Rich Eisen Show. Hey, everybody. Can't get enough of The Rich Eisen Show? You're in luck. You can find us everywhere. Watch us weekdays on Disney Plus from noon to 3 Eastern. Missed the show? We've got a podcast so you can listen anytime. But here's the best part. Our YouTube channel. Subscribe at youtube.com slash Rich Eisen Show and you'll never miss a moment. Now, on with the show. Hey, New York. I'm sorry it took so long. This is The Rich Eisen Show. James Dolan, he said at one point, when we win the championship, he turned into Oprah.

1:35Rich Eisen:You'll get a ring. You'll get a ring. And your wife will get a ring. And your girlfriend will get a ring. Or your mom will get a ring. Today's guests. Apple TV lead MLS analyst Taylor Twelman. Actor Hugh Jackman. Plus, latest news and more. And now, it's Rich Eisen. That's right, everybody. Welcome to this edition of The Rich Eisen Show. I'm not the only greatest showman on this program. 844-204-RICH is the number to dial. Hugh Jackman is joining us in hour number three in advance of his new movie, The Death of Robin Hood, which is definitely not the Robin Hood you know about growing up with. He's going to be on in hour number three.

2:18Rich Eisen:A great celebrity, true or false, all teed up for one of my favorites. He's never been on the show. Very excited about having him on. Taylor Twelman, who's been on before, he'll be talking about what the entire world's talking about, and that's the World Cup. 844-204-RICH is the number to dial right here on the program. There is a top five that I have and a top five that Chris Brockman's going to be. We have dueling top fives later on. Hey, now. And Judge TJ Jefferson will have to decide which one is better on the whole concept of which quarterback in the NFL is under the most pressure of this upcoming season.

2:52Rich Eisen:One of Chris Brockman's favorite subject matters, Good to see you over there, Christopher. How are you today? Good to see you. Good thing I slipped TJ and Mr. Beak's envelope before the show. Fantastic. And if the World Cup today, if the World Cup today sounds differently to you, it doesn't sound as crisp. Yeah, not as crisp. You're like, wait a minute. Wait a minute. It doesn't sound great. Mike Deltufo's here and not there. He's here. He's not there. Good to see you, DJ Mikey D. Yes, but tomorrow I will be on that USA match. Hey. I will be on that. Listen, you're very patriotic working faders.

3:25Rich Eisen:Good to see you over there, T.J. Jefferson. The candle's lit, sir. What's going on? It's not lit, is it? No, it's not lit. I was counting something. Human money. I'm above reproach, though. What do you count? Oh, I see. Keep it fair. Keep it fair. Keep it fair. Keep it fair. Okay, look at that. I'm above reproach. That was a fake bill he put in his pocket. Fake. Okay. It's real. Ladies and gentlemen, today is the day everyone's been waiting for in New York City for over 50 years 53 years again we every single time i talk about the knicks winning the championship i sound like the old woman from uh titanic i hate this team oh no sir not anymore over there no no that's the jets although they might be on the clock now 53 years we in new york city have been waiting for a particular canyon of heroes parade i'm throwing ticker tape in the old Canyon of Heroes.

4:21Rich Eisen:And yeah, I guess what John Glenn orbiting the moon or Neil Armstrong landing on it is akin to this Canyon of Heroes type of event. The New York Knicks having a parade and it started at seven in the morning. You could see that footage that we just popped up on the screen there. So it started at 10 in the morning Eastern time, but fans started pouring in. I mean, the subway, it took a half an hour to get this, by the way, is my nightmare. Being stuck in a New York City subway tunnel and stuck on the steps. I don't love nothing. You know, definitely. It definitely. I'll be straight up with you. It couldn't have smelled great in there.

5:02Rich Eisen:Yeah. I don't think. I smelled through the TV. Because, you know, New Yorkers in tank tops, which is what a jersey is, you know. Yeah. They weren't going Ewing style, which is a T-shirt underneath. You know, a lot of them. Sweatbands. Yeah. I'm very old, right? What's the temperature? When somebody's wearing a Bernard King number 30, that thing was when they took the summer camp. But because they set up many security checkpoints, I saw one photo and one video associated with it that the line at one security checkpoint ran so long that it collided with the back of another checkpoint on the other side of the parade.

5:51Rich Eisen:And those New York blocks are long. So checkpoints were running into each other. And listen, there's a reason why Larry David knows all about the chat and cut because we New Yorkers do that all the time. But this is it. I mean, it's so exciting. I have not seen anything from the actual parade itself. So I'm just going to react to it live. Go ahead and roll them in, Mike Hoskins. What are we looking at here? That's Clyde Frazier. Oh, wow. That's awesome. That's Clyde Frazier. Is that what type of car is that? I don't know. It looks presidential. It looks like something maybe he was in in the 1970s.

6:33Rich Eisen:It might be his own car. I don't think they had a parade, though, back in the 70s for them. They did not. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure I heard it. That's what the Google machine's for. But let's check it. Okay. Rolling another one right here. So Clyde's there. It says no. They did not have a parade. My favorite Nick growing up, sitting shotgun in a blue convertible. Come on now. Bernard King is in a championship parade. And then the other guy that I grew up loving, look at Patrick Ewing. That jerk's my guy right there. I love it. Patrick Ewing is taking his victory lap that I wanted him to have himself.

7:08Rich Eisen:I'm getting emotional, guys. I'm literally tearing up. When I see Bernard King and I see Patrick Ewing, I think of me in high school dreaming of these moments. I get it. You know? Me in high school dreaming that the Knicks could win it all with Bernard King and then Patrick Ewing together, and that happened for half a season. You know? The Bernie and Ernie show is what I grew up with. Ernie Grunfeld, who, by the way, turned into a general manager of the Knicks. Right. You know? The Bernie and Ernie show. Could that happen? Bernard King and Ernie Grunfeld. And here comes Ewing, and then Bernard gets hurt and is never the same again.

7:49Rich Eisen:Yeah, man. Let me see something else. Keep rolling them in. I'm just going to react to it. Jalen Brunson walking in the parade. King of New York. With the Larry O 'Brien trophy. This is what it's about. this is what it look at all the fans were just crushed up against the barriers yeah i can't wait to see the numbers on attendance i saw some photos last night of people in the they had grandstands set up along the streets already camped out i think they were planning on sleeping there overnight to not give up their spot well i woke up this morning geez like 4 30 our time and looked at the phone and already saw the photos of the crush of fans showing up at 5 in the morning Eastern, 6 in the morning, well in advance of this parade.

8:40Rich Eisen:I was up at 12.30 last night. I saw a girl's Instagram video where she was already trying to secure her spot. So what is that, 3.30? Yeah. She was securing herself a spot for the parade. It was dark out. there's nobody around I was like this is insane dark out nobody around sounds like half of my Nick fandom seriously I cannot believe this is happening I cannot believe it happened this year it was right around this time last year the Knicks are knocking on the doors of so many other franchises saying can we talk to your coach who wanted to be the coach we talked to your coach it was pathetic it felt pathetic we wanted you to get the job at one That's right.

9:25Rich Eisen:It's like you didn't have a plan after you fired Tom Thibodeau or before. Why'd you fire him? What are you doing over there? What's happening over there? Why would you fire this guy? And who's going to coach him? And then Mike Brown says, I'll take the job. And it's like, eh. And look at him now. King of New York, your money's no good in New York City anymore, sir. And it better be the same way in New Jersey and parts of Connecticut. Ever. In any establishment where a Knick fan resides, this man should never pay for a meal again. Letting dogs out. Oh, my gosh. He wore a 10 weeks T-shirt to the parade today in reference to James Dolan's speech that gives me 10 weeks of apparently this got cut out of the speech that was posted on the Jalen Brunson Josh Hart podcast site.

10:20Rich Eisen:Asking him, you know. Celibacy. Abstinence. yeah you know hey ag ac green won a championship i mean he did multiple yeah but that wasn't a yeah you know it wasn't it was it was the other 42 weeks yeah i mean ac didn't know what he was missing exactly he hadn't tasted the fruit chris i've always wanted to say this is kind of like when people crack on me about the cowboys it's like people who've never you know you know what i'm not watching videos of james dolan talking he's inspirational by the way i would but i mean on on the radio locally in new york where i wouldn't ever hit play on that because i'm like what is he going to say that's going to piss me off and i'm like now i can't wait to hear what's out of his mouth wow i know that that is i know somebody sent me a tweet um that was not on our somebody popped up on x I didn't see this.

11:17Rich Eisen:Somebody sent it to me. And it was a tweet that I sent almost seven years ago. No way. On June 30th, 2019. And what did it say? I tweeted out. With Durant and Kyrie choosing the Nets, it's time for James Dolan to look in the mirror and sell the Knicks. Yes. His utter and humiliating failure at handling a New York sports institution is now complete take the billions and go home jim is what i tweeted out that's how you felt hey and i that and that was tame compared to what i was saying in front of this microphone which yada yada yada may be a reason why the knicks are not facilitating a player to appear on this program i got a long memory there man you know i would hope but i'm i'm i'm like yeah dolan's talking about how he apparently Landry Shamit and Mitchell Robinson are the Knicks that might have to be let go because oh yeah yeah Dolan said he doesn't want to get he doesn't want to be in the second April well nobody wants to because that is so prohibitive in putting a roster together right and he's basically I'll cut a check as much as I can but I'm not going in the second April I heard that I'm like you're right and I'm like wait a minute what the hell is happening here i'm like inspired by what james dolan is thinking what is it cats and dogs living together that's what's happening bill murray and ghostbusters the knicks are having a parade in the canyon of heroes jalen brunson's walking around with the larry o 'brien trophy mikhail bridges brought his dog yes they're so damn likable they are it's great they're New York was mostly likable.

13:09Rich Eisen:Oh, and Hoskins put up that one thing that I did see from the parade that I sent before. This is a wild float to be seen in a New York City parade. The analytical float. Kenny Atkinson's in there, apparently. Wow. Why would you do that? He won the series 4-1. They're living rent-free in your head. Oh, wait a minute. That's AI-generated. Pardon me. Celebrate your day. Normally, I don't put up AI slop. You know that's not a real picture. You know that's AI. That's funny, man. They're living rent free. That's funny. That's funny. Oh, yeah, because tomorrow night is game seven of the analytics NBA finals between the Spurs and the Cavs.

13:47Rich Eisen:Not acknowledging this. See, that's where we're unlikable in New York. Yeah, you're riding high. The Knicks are not saying that. They're not. They're bringing their dogs to the parade. Who let the dogs out? I see somebody brought up Wemby today. Come on. why are you acting surprised by this guy over there like a celtic fan is always taking a high road over there the patriot fan like oh my god you need some oxygen over there taking a high road we go high oh is that right we go high i don't know i'll let you but you and the ducks on the boats went a little lower okay you know the two-year-olds who haven't seen a parade that his that's okay the knicks are having a championship parade today yeah you should enjoy that and by the way Does this conclude the six-day Micapalooza that's going down everywhere?

14:37Rich Eisen:I'm excited for it to be over. I'm not. I'm enjoying it. They're everywhere. That's carrying on through the summer. Oh, baby. It's forever. Are you kidding me? We're selling t-shirts. You're going to write it hard. RichEyesAndShop.com. Yeah. I got t-shirts. The I Am A 1A Dude t-shirt in various colors. The best free agent signing ever. various colors i might wear that on on future anniversaries with suzy you know what i mean they go new york go new york go t-shirt let's go rich eyes and shop.com i'm in it that's as close to the parade as i'm gonna get look at cat with a big ass stogie kid from jersey kid from jersey comes to the knicks and everyone's like oh remember you remember i had to sit here in this chair and I'm like hey Nick fans I said this this one I this one I nailed I got this one right remember I'm like hey listen Nick fans I know you loved Julius Randall I know he was the first guy right that gave you like a a green shoot out of the soil that everyone thought was so fallow okay and he was such a great Nick and everyone loved him and what he stood for in a self-made man for the Knicks.

15:54Rich Eisen:Brunson comes along and they send him along with Dante DiVincenzo. And who told us recently that oh, it's Jay Wright who told us that A-Rod and said we are taking Dante DiVincenzo for the Knicks if we are sending Cat to New York. He's coming in the trade. Knicks didn't really want to send him, but they're like, sure. And Knicks fans were like, what are we doing to bring Carl Anthony Towns here? And I'm like, hold on a second. love this guy. You're saying Nick fans question bringing one of the best top three centers in the league? They were questioning it because of who was sent away. They loved Randle.

16:35Rich Eisen:They wanted Randle to be in this parade. I understand. Carl Anthony Towns, a kid from Jersey. And I fell in love with him the minute he started trolling on TJ Jefferson. Like, just met him in two seconds flat. Immediately. I'm an Eagle fan. You're a Cowboy fan. Okay, great. This is how this is. I'm so happy for Carl Anthony Towns. One of my favorite Knicks ever. Every single one of these guys. Oh, man, I love a parade. Certainly like today. I love a parade. Parade days. By the way, this is how excited they are at City Hall. They're putting all the Knicks banners up there. Somebody decides to, I guess they must have looked at the preseason roster.

17:14Rich Eisen:Yeah. They put Dylan Jones's number up there. And he wore 33 last summer in the Summer League for the Knicks. cut before opening night. And by the way, you know who's number 33 is no longer worn anywhere? It's a retired jersey. I know that. You should know better. Do you think Ewing's going past City Hall and he's just like, wait, what? Who's Jones? Turn this around. So, I mean, everybody is just jumping at celebrating. Dylan Jones is like, what? Okay. Do I get a ring? Oh, my God. Hey, at least Momdottie's filling potholes there. it's all working the new york knickerbockers are champions of the world and having a canyon of heroes parade oh look at clyde wearing that get up he's the best walt fraser is in a canyon of heroes parade in 2026 this is what it's all about all right one of the speeches they're starting or they're not having i mean oh i oh i'm sure they're doing We're going to keep an eye on the proceedings in lower Manhattan.

18:25Rich Eisen:844-204-RICH, number to dial on the program. When we come back, let's talk about what the rest of the world is talking about, the World Cup. Group play is now started today in game two of groups, which means it's beginning to get real. If you did not get a point in your first match to open the World Cup, you best get one in game two. Right. Because if not, you know, don't leave your clothes in the hotel like John Tortorella did. Chechia Buono on South Africa. Thank you, sir, for that update. 844-204-H. Number to dial Taylor Twelman is going to join us next to discuss what we have seen so far. This is The Rich Eisen Show.

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21:15Rich Eisen:Taylor Twellman spinning a curve in the zone for me to hit out of the Fenway over the Monsta. So, okay, I give you the floor. Greatest U.S. men's national team performance ever anywhere at any time in a big event. Taylor, yay or nay? If it's not 1A, it's 1B. I still go back to Portugal 2002. I get it. We were all, it was 5 o 'clock in the morning when it happened, if not 4 o 'clock in the morning. So the general public didn't have the attention. It didn't have the runway that the 26th World Cup has had. But that was Figo and Ronaldo, and you're up 3-0 15, 20 minutes in, right? So that was a surprise.

21:53The reason why I would argue with myself on that is this. for the last three and a half years, we've talked about the U.S. men's team being anemic, the U.S. men's team getting in their own way, the fact that we're talking about coaches and players' parents arguing after the 22 World Cup with Randall and Berhalter. We haven't really had a ton of positivity regarding this men's team since the World Cup ended in 22. And so you could argue three and a half years of just blah. So the magnitude of that performance to send a message knowing how many eyeballs would be on there, Rich, that's where I would say that still may be the best performance because they needed to make a statement that this golden generation of player that all of us have called it can recognize the occasion, for lack of a better word, but more so give you a performance that aligns with that.

22:47it's barely on one hand that I can give you that many times the men not the women the men have given you a performance that aligned itself with the occasion that's why if it's not 1a it's 1b

23:00Rich Eisen:but my man it's up there yeah I mean the women we all know have met moments over and over and over again and they've been dominant right they've been dominant in performances and the first half of of that match against Paraguay was dominant they they looked like the better team better coached crisper faster better smarter um you know the reina goal uh had what 23 touches that led up to it um and and just to see and by the way that goal uh brilliant goal i couldn't believe it i'm like wait a minute was that off the outside of his right foot and rich cathartic to think about it we just talked about the world cup in 22 was all about giovanni reina and his parents arguing with their best friends and Greg Berhalter and all of that nonsense in baby games.

23:47And so you saw that with Pochettino running about 55 yards to celebrate with the players. There was a lot of emotion behind the goal. Brilliant finish. That's who Gia Reyna can be. And that's who we should be. Now, I'll take this conversation to another level. I'd argue that has to be the standard that and I'm not talking about the scoreline, But I'm talking about the swagger, the movement, the energy, the ability to dictate an opponent that only gave up six goals in World Cup qualifying that include Brazil, Argentina, Colombia, Uruguay. Paraguay only gave up six goals. That should be the standard by which the U.S.

24:30men should be judged. The scorelines are always going to be different. And that's why we love sports. You can play the best and lose a game 1-0. It doesn't matter. but the way they went about their business and you hit the nail on the head, that's the difference. That is the difference of them dictating the game and not being a team that had to react to the other team. That was as impressive to me versus scoring four goals against Paraguay.

24:58Rich Eisen:Taylor Twelman here on the Rich Eisen Show. I've got an easy follow-up question, but it's time for a hydration break. I need one. Very good. Oh, look at you with your apple. Hold on one second. My coach is calling me about my first hit. Hold on. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, you think so? Anyway, hold on. Yeah. I should wear pants for the next hit? Wow. Oh, man. It's a bit. Okay, cool. Yeah, I'll get back. Yeah. You got it, coach. Bye. Listen, Taylor, I appreciate the bit, but I mean, this is about hydrating. I can't have you cramp up in the middle of all this. What are we doing, Rich? Seriously. You know what?

25:31Rich Eisen:What are we doing? I didn't even sponsor that. We could have made some money off of that, right? Did you want to read something real quick? We easily could have. you could have made money and i just played the part of the bit and got nothing which is what i do really well this is for money right though hydration breaks correct oh god buddy i don't know see so there's two ways to go about this first off i'm watching the game in toronto last night and the temperature on the left hand part of my screen says 64 degrees and then it says humidity at 60 60 percent okay so but but why do i bring that up this did not start this tournament it started in 22 okay because it was 105 degrees outside sure and it is a real player safety issue absolutely the problem is now it's not about that this is capitalism and listen just own it just say it yeah here's my rebuttal and having done games with a million hydration breaks and I've done this a million times.

26:28Stay in the stadium. That's the hard part for me. If the hydration break is going on and you are giving me the coaches' conversations, the players, the tactics, the changes, it does not take away from the game as much as watching a Michelob Ultra ad with Christian Pulisic, Lionel Messi, and then coming back to the game. That is the Americanization of what that is. An hydration break that takes about 70 seconds. Rich, it's no different than an injury and a trainer comes on the field and they deal with that if you stay in there. That's why everyone is losing their minds because we're leaving the atmosphere.

27:07We're leaving the event. The broadcast. And then coming back.

27:10Rich Eisen:It feels like it's four quarters now. Okay. So if the broadcast stays put and maybe just keeps some vision on the floor. It doesn't take as much away. I'm telling you right now it doesn't. We'll see if that happens. Why don't you float that up the Pico Boulevard flagpole? I'll see what I can do. I'll see what I can do. I know the people there. Let's try and make this. Yeah, tell them it was Rich's idea, not Taylor's. Oh, and by the way, the first time it was used in 2022, where was that played? Yeah, Qatar. Ah, got it out of him. I was right. Got it out of him. You were right, Brock. I don't know.

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27:42I'm a cutter guy. Okay. It's cutter 100%, but at this rate, Everyone has butchered it about 100 times. So I think six and a half one, half a dozen the other.

27:56Rich Eisen:All right. So now that the hydration break is over, we stayed here. We didn't throw the commercial break. We did. Taylor Twelman, how repeatable is the United States men's national team game one performance? Very repeatable. Now, Australia is going to be a little bit of a different threat. And I think your listeners watching the game on Friday will understand what I mean. There's two attacking players for Australia that can flat-out burn. They can flat-out run. They'll defend with seven guys behind the ball. They'll be very pragmatic in their approach. But on the counter, they're going to be a different threat than Paraguay was.

28:33So Tim Ream's going to be tested athletically. This is where Chris Richards and his, I would say, inclusion into the national team and being a real focal point and leader at center back helps them. They're a different type of threat. However, it's a similar type of approach. They're going to make the game very, very disjointed. They're going to have numbers behind the ball. And so you've got to have some ingenuity off the ball. I thought Pulisic was unplayable in the first 45 minutes, and he didn't even need the ball to be the best player on the field in those moments. But Tyler Adams, Weston McKinney, if it's Tillman again, if it's Pepe and Baligan, we don't know how they're going to approach this if Pulisic doesn't play.

29:13they've just got to be, I know this is going to sound like an oxymoron, they've got to be very, very patient but chaotic. And what I mean by that is be patient in understanding that it may take you 40 minutes to get a shot on goal or score a goal, but create a little bit more urgency to the game so Australia doesn't get numbers behind the ball. I think it's very repeatable. Not saying the scoreline, but I'm saying the performance. Best side through the first game of the World Cup. Oh, good one, man. Thank you. That's really good. I still think France is the best team in the World Cup, but I'll tell you right now, if England want to play that way, you got my attention.

29:53Why? You have my attention that way. I've said this now for four straight major tournaments. England's never had this much depth in their talent. Maybe not high end, but they've got talent all over the field in the attacking end. The fact that Phil Foden and Cole Palmer don't even get a call to the World Cup tells you how deep they are. Let it go. England's number one issue for the last 60-plus years is them being so scared to let it loose, to win a game 4-2. They were not the other night. They were really good. I still think France is the most talented team of the World Cup, but that version of England, you got my attention.

30:34Rich Eisen:You mentioned Erling Haaland before. Holy crap. Oh, my Lord. I'm straight up with you. I've never seen him play a match start to finish, but I did the other day. And it was easy to find him on the pitch. It was easy to find him. He looks like Thor. He does, man. He looks like an Avenger. And we were talking about if Gronk played soccer. You know what I mean? Yeah. If Gronk played football, I know he's smaller than him, but did he get a goal? by scaring the Iraqi goalie? Yeah. The best part to this, though, Rich, is both center forwards are 6 '4", 6 '5", for Norway. Holy crap. And I love it, though, because the conventional wisdom is don't do that.

31:21What's in the yogurt there, man? What's in the yogurt? Yeah, don't do it. No, it's liver and onions for breakfast. You know that. Absolutely.

31:27Rich Eisen:I don't know Scandinavian food. I don't know why I just took yogurt. Yogurt. I don't think those two were raised on yogurt. I think it was straight meat off the bone and let's get after it. He's unreal. He's unreal. And that was so cool too, right? That Norway hasn't been in this event since 1998. And then let's see what this kid can do. And he scores twice. But they've got two horses up front, Rich. And just real quickly, though, it's important. Conventional wisdom is you can only play one tall guy up front. Norway is like, you know what? Those are our two strengths. We're going. We're going to be very direct.

32:03We're going to play fast. We're going to play off of them. I think they'll scare the living you-know-what out of teams just by having two big guys out front saying, we're going to go a little old-fashioned, and we're going to go for it. They may cause some issues here.

32:15Rich Eisen:My favorite goal of Messi's the other night was one, I think it might have been his last one, because I think he was standing. He's just standing in the middle of the pitch. And he's not running around. He's like, I've got to conserve my energy here. This is game one of the World Cup, and I can just stand here in the middle of Arrowhead or Kansas City Stadium, whatever the heck they're calling it, And I'll just wait. I'll just wait. Ball's going to come to me. I'm Lionel Messi. And then he gets it, and off he goes, and then a rocket off his foot. It's unreal. We were talking about how in a stadium that Patrick Mahomes plays all his big moments in, Messi's hat trick in a World Cup match is top five in the history of this stadium.

32:58Rich Eisen:It has to be. And the game he played for Inter-Miami in the same building. He literally blew the doors off of that building, too. and Mahomes was literally in the booth next to me. And after the game, sitting there and seeing a guy like that be mesmerized by it, he's going to turn 39 in about five days. And yet, he's doing things he's never done before. He's defying odds, Rich. He's defying odds. The oldest player to ever have a hat trick. He's never had a hat trick in a World Cup. He just did both. He's now the youngest and oldest player to score for the Argentine national team. in a World Cup.

33:36He's played in six World Cups. He's playing so free right now. Now, postgame, he was very emotional. And obviously, there's something going on personal. The reports out of Argentina are that his dad isn't feeling well. That hasn't been confirmed. But obviously, there's something going on. But the way he is playing, everybody in the world told him and Rodrigo DePaul that going to MLS and Inter-Miami would completely stall your game. and the first goal DePaul played one of the best passes I've ever seen, and Messi scores a hat-trick. They are defying everybody, including myself, and the fact that he turns 39 in this World Cup and could win the Golden Boot, you've got to be kidding me, Rich.

34:19Rich Eisen:That's incredible. Go ahead and say your stat, Chris. Go ahead and say your stat. Messi has now more wins at Arrowhead Kansas City Stadium than Derek Carr. Derek Carr was 1-9, Messi's 2-0. There you go. He was 1-9 there? Hey, man, the Raiders in the Mahomes era? Come on now. I mean, yeah. The scores were like 16-4 in those games. And I'm legitimately asking you this question, Taylor Twain. Yes. Although, how much time do we have left? Because are we at regulation? Yeah, we've got six minutes of extra time. Jeez, how many? It's just three minutes. That's three automatic. Well, you had the hydration break.

34:56You had two yellow cards. And then Rich was rolling around because, you know, he thought he pulled his hamstring. Oh, my gosh.

35:03Rich Eisen:Spray. Oh, my goodness. I'm so glad I can now run like a deer again. Wait a minute. Give me the chance that Cape Verde plays a knockout round match. Oh. What do you got for me? Because, I mean, hey, they drew Spain, right? They've got Uruguay and what is it? Saudi Arabia, the other? I mean, give me a chance here. You're saying there's a chance. What do you got? there's there's always a chance especially and if for anyone that's seen dumb and dumber there's always a chance um i will say this is that first off it's important that your audience knows the first tiebreaker for the eight third place teams is points right they're gonna have to get to four okay i just think there's gonna be yes they're gonna have to win one of those games i i don't see it now there is a small chance that the eighth seventh and eighth third place team is three points.

35:59Now, when that comes into the equation, it's goal differential. There's a chance that Cape Verde gets through with three draws. There's a chance.

36:10Rich Eisen:Is it Cape Verde? Because we're calling it Verde. It's Cape Verde. No, I call it Cape Verde just because we screwed up Qatar. Why don't we screw up this one? I think we're good. So wait a minute. So what they've got to get to four points or 20 million followers for the goalie on Instagram. He's got to be at 18 already. He's had the best rise ever. He's got more followers than I think Wembenyama and SGA and Jalen Brunson combined. I think he's got more Instagram followers than all 30 NBA teams. He's at 13 and a half million right now. What the hell? What the hell? It's amazing, dude. He had 50 ,000.

36:56Rich Eisen:If he hits 15 million, that's three times the population of the Republic he represents. By the way, he was brilliant. What would happen? He deserved. He was really good. What would happen if Cape Verde advances and Portugal doesn't? Oh, I would give anything for that. I'm right. I'm right now on every CR7 owner. owner, fan right now has my face. They don't like you. They don't like me right now, but I've been saying it for six months. I've been saying it. He's played 1 ,005 minutes without a goal from the run of play. That is 10 major tournament games for Portugal that my man hasn't scored. And all I'm saying is he becomes your super sub.

37:47You've got the best midfield in the tournament. That's not even hyperbole. That's fact. So in order for this to work, there needs to be mobility, fluidity, and uncertainty. He's all three of those, the 40-year-old Cristiano Ronaldo, or however old he is, he's the oldest player to ever play as a non-goalie in the World Cup. He doesn't move the same way. So he stalls everything. I'm not blaming him for the results. He's 41. So all I'm saying to you is all-time greatest goal scorer ever. Awesome. You need a goal at the end of the game. You change the game slower, and you can become a little bit more predictable by putting them on the field.

38:31Just roll the dice. The problem is, and Bruno Fernandes should have scored yesterday, but Ronaldo got in the way because he was more worried about matching what Messi did and Mbappe and Haaland and Harry Kane instead of winning the game. Portugal wins the game. And Ronaldo lets that ball slide right across, and Bruno finishes it. But he can't do it. He can't do it.

38:53Rich Eisen:He's hurting Portugal. The Darth Vader of the Iberian Peninsula, Taylor Twelman, here on the Rich Eisen Show, everybody. Dude, loved our chat here. I think we're out of time, and it's, you know. Well, it's extra time. We're not going to penalties because it's only group stage. We're not. Yeah, there's no golden goal. Maybe the next time we chat. Next time we chat. Putter and Cape Verde in the quarterfinals. Later. Taylor, do I see you at the American Century Championship in a couple weeks, Taylor? You will. Okay. What's the game like? It's two. What do you got? Where are we? I got everything like last year.

39:28Get to the 15th hole of the final round, tied for the lead, and just fall flat on my face. No, come on now. Come on. Come on now. This year, we're not. Okay, fine. That's fine. I'll do it on 17.

39:41Rich Eisen:this is terrible twelman currently a plus 2.6 what you show up to a golf course and you're like you know what i'll flip you three strokes golf course really three is hey by the way i'll play anyone for three strokes rich it's more like hey can i play cool how many you want 14 no well look at me i'm the candy man walking around with you that's for damn sure good to see you taylor i'll see you at the American Century Championship. Everybody, everybody. ESPN World Cup analyst and Apple TV lead MLS analyst. That was a fun conversation right there. That's a real How about us having a real World Cup conversation?

40:15I mean, biggest event in the world. It's great.

40:19Rich Eisen:I love it. We've got a parade. We're talking soccer. US Open just started Rich Eisen. Okay. Shinnecock. Ladies and gentlemen, where the course comes up to your neck. The course is winning. The hell's good. Yeah, that, I mean. Only five players under par at the moment. 844-204-RICH, number to dial, phone lines are lit. We'll take your calls shortly with Hugh Jackman in Hour 3. The Rich Eisen Show, the podcast.

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42:23Rich Eisen:talking about bringing flag football perhaps to your daughter's school near you love it would be outstanding uh taylor loves playing flag football she played it once two years ago and in grade school and misses it so uh roger rg1 will be part of that broadcast later on uh 844-204-rich number to dial kenye in washington dc back on the program what's up sir hey what's up shall man. How you doing? What's going on? Kenny, what's up, man? I'm alright, brother. What's up, Shady C? What up, what up? Big Toon. What's up, man? How you doing? I don't know who that is. Big Toona. Just accept the Big Toona nickname, TJ.

43:05Rich Eisen:I can't hear you. He hears you. I don't think he wants to acknowledge you, Kenny. This nickname is not Roman Reigns. It will not be acknowledged. But anyway, first off, Rich, congratulations to you and your New York mix for breaking the 53-year-old drought. Thank you, sir. They managed to get the championship long before the Cowgirls did it again, you know? Okay, this is why he's not acknowledging you. Wow, you do realize that the last time you won, I'm not even going to get into it. Do it, Sam. I mean, I don't need to. He knows. He knows. Yeah, the last time we won was like two years ago. So, yeah, okay.

43:43Rich Eisen:A Super Bowl? He's an Eagles fan. Oh, I thought he was a good coach. Hey, come on, Tuna. So here we go. I would like to also mention that those two big Eagles carried out to glory. So on behalf of Jalen, the other MVP champ, and Big Cat, you're welcome and go birds. It took the Eagles 53 years to win a Super Bowl, so I get that you are feeling what the Knicks fans are going through. He understands, Rich. It took them that long. This is just funny. Thank you, Kenny. in Washington, D.C. Catch up. And also, later on in the segment, the top five quarterback pressure, I believe that Jalen Hurts will have a lot to prove with a new offensive system coming in and that we're free of the cancer A.J.

44:29Rich Eisen:Clown. Wow. A.J. Clown is the mic drop there. He's trying to have smoke for all of us here. I have a feeling, again, I'm going to do my top five list of quarterbacks under the most pressure. and you, Chris, will follow with yours. Right. And we will compare notes and I will proffer to say there will be maybe only one, if maybe two. I was going to put the line at one and a half. Yeah. I don't know. I might say the under because you know the way I view pressure and the way you view it. Oh, I can guess what your list is going to look like. I view it as actual, actual real life pressure of i may not have this opportunity again and your version of pressure is what are people going to say about me if i don't win you know yeah that's how actual pressure works okay so we have different interpretations of what pressure definitely do you definitely yes so the david bowie right so did they bow so we'll hit that that's next hour love it we got nothing we got nothing but real estate in next like i said i got a feeling i could pick both of your well you're you're here's what you should do in the commercial break is write down what you think my five is i'll do that and then what his five is and then it'll be like sort of a newlywed game type of thing we'll so you'll hold it up and see if you get it you understand your on-air partners thought that is funny that's that make me chuck woolery that's funny no no that's bob Eubanks.

46:08Rich Eisen:Oh, Eubanks. I knew it was one of those. Skinny Mike. We have two encyclopedias here. Greatest Jews in sports and game shows. Chuck Woolery was Love Connection. Speaking of that, we're back in two and two on the Rich Eisen Show after hour one. The Rich Eisen Show Podcast.

From the publisher

Knicks fan Rich reacts to New York’s victory parade in Manhattan and makes a startling revelation about team owner James Dolan.

ESPN’s Taylor Twellman and Rich break down the 2026 World Cup’s first week including the USMNT’s impressive debut and their next match vs Australia, why fans watching on TV are up in arms about hydration breaks, how for stars like Lionel Messi, Kylian Mbappe, Erling Haaland, and Harry Kane can lead their nations, Cape Verde’s chances to advance to the knockout round, and explains why Cristiano Ronaldo is hurting Portugal more that he’s helping.
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