In short
The episode is a sports reaction show focused on NBA playoff Round 2 games and matchups, plus commentary and predictions. Key topics: Knicks’ dominant stretch vs the 76ers (including claims of historic blowout margins and “not gassed” offense), Sixers/Joel Embiid flopping controversy, and Spurs-Timberwolves Game 1 (Wembanyama’s defensive impact but offensive struggles; Anthony Edwards’ return). Notable examples include Knicks’ 137-98 win, Embiid missing 11 of 14 shots, Wembanyama going 0-for-8 from three after using energy defensively, and Edwards scoring 18 points off the bench in 25 minutes.
Guests
Jeff Teague, former NBA player and host of the Club 520 podcast; he discusses OKC vs Lakers (predicts Thunder), Knicks’ chances vs OKC, and Spurs vs Wolves (expects a seven-game series).
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOKnicks' Historic Playoff Performance
1:50 to 3:59
Analyze the Knicks' unprecedented playoff victories and their current momentum.
“I mean, if someone got me a ticket and it was good.”
76ers Struggles and Player Analysis
3:59 to 8:13
Discuss the Philadelphia 76ers' performance issues and player fatigue.
“four if you want to include the game five win which wasn't a monumental blowout but a nice win for the Knicks to send things back to Atlanta.”
Timberwolves and Anthony Edwards' Return
8:13 to 10:00
Examine Anthony Edwards' impact on the Timberwolves after his return from injury.
“is he going to put up 35 a night for this series?”
Victor Wembanyama's Playoff Debut
10:00 to 13:10
Explore Victor Wembanyama's performance in his playoff debut and its implications.
“The only thing I love watching him do more than play is talk after the game.”
Game Recap: Knicks-Sixers and Spurs-Timberwolves
14:01 to 16:06
Discussing the latest game outcomes and performances in the NBA playoffs.
“Apparently he had a nice comment about playing on the road with the colored shirts and everything.”
Jeff Teague's Predictions
17:44 to 19:30
Analyzing team matchups and predictions regarding the playoffs with Jeff Teague.
“The gentleman's sweep, Jeff Teague, predicting for the Oklahoma City Thunder over the Los Angeles Lakers, the host of the Club 520 podcast here on the Rich Eisen Show.”
Knicks' Performance and Competition
19:30 to 21:31
Evaluating the Knicks' current standing and potential playoff challenges.
“Are the Knicks the best team in the East right now, do you think?”
Timberwolves vs. Spurs Analysis
21:31 to 23:25
Discussing the Timberwolves' strategy and player performances against the Spurs.
“So the Pistons, in your estimation, are the team that's standing in the way of New York.”
Ties and Rivalries in the NBA
23:25 to 28:00
Exploring personal connections to teams and historical rivalries in the NBA.
“but the Timberwolves they've been here before and Anthony Edwards is a problem.”
Tanking in the NBA: A Fan's Perspective
28:00 to 30:20
Discussion on the complexities and opinions around the NBA draft lottery and tanking strategies.
“well, hopefully the Hawks just get the number one pick this year, and we get A.J.”
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Jeff Teague's Playoff Memories
30:20 to 32:30
Jeff Teague shares his experiences from a memorable NBA altercation involving Karl-Anthony Towns and Joel Embiid.
“Jeff Teague, everybody right here on the Rich Eisen show.”
Celtics' Future: Giannis and Team Dynamics
32:30 to 35:30
Analyzing the potential impact of Giannis on the Celtics and discussing the team's current dynamics.
“I got the Knicks one in the finals, man.”
Embiid's Style and Team Needs
35:30 to 37:48
A conversation about Joel Embiid's playing style and the Celtics' need for a strong defensive player.
“You need a big, you can't have, you can't have the defensive.”
Yankees Tribute and Game Highlights
39:41 to 42:00
Discussion about a tribute to John Sterling and highlights from the Yankees' recent game.
“844-204-RICH, number to dial here on the program.”
Baseball Heartbreak and Fan Frustrations
42:00 to 44:27
Listeners share their frustrations with their favorite baseball teams and express their emotions about the current state of baseball.
“I mean, if you really do want to make it about you, put it up.”
Angels' Struggles and Trout's Future
44:27 to 45:58
Discussion on the Los Angeles Angels' poor performance and the future of star player Mike Trout.
“I haven't had only two wins in the last three weeks.”
Transcript
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1:28Rich Eisen:Brian Windhorst is making his way to our studio. And that's going to be a lot of fun in our number two. The comedian Corey B is in town. Part of the Netflix is a joke festival that's going down here all week long that culminates with the roast of Kevin Hart on Sunday. Our buddy Jeffrey Ross is honchoing that. it's gonna be a lot of laughs in this this town of over the next few days we could definitely use it and on tomorrow's show the very funny Tom Segura will come out of his cave one bear here in our show good to see you over there Chris Brockman what's going on sir what's up man what's going on DJ Mikey Diaz I remember you TJ Jefferson Candles I mean look this Kevin Hart thing I might actually leave the crib really whoa you're gonna go no I mean no but I would He might go out for snacks.
2:20Rich Eisen:I mean, we know people if you need to. I mean, if someone got me a ticket and it was good. All right. All right. Wow. Listen, the conversation coming out of the Sixers win over the Celtics was Joel Embiid flopping. And who knew that last night going to Madison Square Garden, the entire Sixers team would flop right there on Broadway. You know, we were tired. You know, OK. I mean, yeah. No, listen, it's possible. It's possible. Down 3-1, fight back. And Nick Nurse pulled his starters in the middle of the third quarter, got him some extra rest because the game was over. And I'll tell you this. I don't know if I'm a factor on this front or not.
3:06Rich Eisen:But ever since I said the Knicks would not finish off the Hawks in six, but rather seven because the Knicks don't do anything easy. it's never easy with them uh hold the beer yeah you've won by 11 billion points the new york knickerbockers off of last night's 137 98 final in madison square garden becomes the first nba team in playoff history to win three postseason games in a row by 25 or more points not even the Jordan Bulls I mean we could go on and on and on and on how some great champions didn't do this or even teams that didn't win championships and had great runs in the playoffs nobody's done what the Knicks did over the last three games they are plus 119 over those games that's the largest margin of victory combined over three straight playoff games ever over their last four if you want to include the game five win which wasn't a monumental blowout but a nice win for the Knicks to send things back to Atlanta.
4:14Rich Eisen:They're plus 135. And the reason why I bring this up is this offensive explosion.
4:29This is why I imagine the Knicks and Dolan and the front office
4:36Rich Eisen:and Leon Rose and everybody there, they had an issue with Tom Thibodeau because defensively great and the playoffs hit and suddenly there's some gas tanks that are pinning on E rather than F and the offense wasn't enough too much hero ball from Jalen Brunson Too much working on the defensive end and not enough points on the offensive end if the transition game wasn't flowing and the three-pointers weren't dropping. Not enough on offense. Too much throughout the regular season and everybody's gassed in the playoffs. Well, as of right now, the team that's gassed is the Philadelphia 76ers. and the Knicks didn't look rusty after not having played since game six.
5:34Rich Eisen:And offensively, they are doing things no one's ever done. And I'm looking at this team and I'm not looking at them thinking they're gassed at all. And listen, I know Mike Brown was choice F after they kicked the tires on everybody who had a contract in the NBA to see if they would leave that coaching job for theirs. But so far, so good. I mean, it's just one game in a round two, but I've never seen anything like this. Nobody's ever seen anything like this. Certainly not from the Knicks. Here's Carl Anthony Towns just matter-of-factly saying, all right, this is basically what we do right now. I would hope so.
6:18Rich Eisen:That's the hope. You hope that at this time you're the best version of ourselves. And for all the guys who've been covering us all year, I've always talked about that, getting better 1 % every single day. And at the end, we need to be proud and happy of the result we bring in the playoffs. And I think right now we're seeing a culmination of the trials and tribulations we went through in the season to be at this point. Yeah. I mean, matter of fact, this is what's going down. And unfortunately, this is the scars. What the Knicks are doing for their fans is giving them hope. Right now, they look like the best team in the Eastern Conference.
7:00Rich Eisen:We'll see what the Oklahoma City Thunder do against the Lakers. They treat the Lakers like their play thing like they did the Suns. We'll see. But an outstanding turn of events for the New York Knickerpockers over the last four games of their playoffs, four in a row. winning finishing off the Hawks and obliterating the 76ers and this wasn't even close and and and it's not like again like it's the Denver Nuggets of the ABA here where they're winning 141 30 and then they're not playing defense like they're like they did maybe under Thibodeau as well Embiid missed 11 of 14 shots you might say that he was gassed I don't know Maxie didn't have a bucket till the second quarter you don't know if he was gassed he was gassed okay I'm trying to give him the benefit of the doubt.
7:50Rich Eisen:Well, how are they going to refuel? Get their rest in, get their fluids in. No starter played more than, what, 28 minutes? It's a battle back from 3-1 one day off. And it kind of waved away flight. It's over. I'm not saying it's over. But look, Cat, right off the bat, two fouls. Robinson comes in. They're in foul trouble. This was all Brunson, man. We've got to find a way to stop him. is he going to put up 35 a night for this series? I don't know. If he is, we're in trouble though. Meanwhile. This series feels over. I don't know about that. I mean, again. It felt over last series too when we got blown out in game one.
8:34Rich Eisen:That's true. Let me say let me ask you this question. Is there another sport in the playoffs where one result doesn't really beget another than the NBA? You know what I mean? Maybe a baseball series. In a baseball series, they come right back tonight, and you could turn it around real quick, but you feel the momentum. I think in the NBA, result one has nothing to do with result two more than any other sport with a series, if you will. Or as Perk says, a series. I buy that. So a great start. The Knicks are just lighting it up, and I just wanted to point it out. like we're already seeing in the first you know seven games of this playoffs for the Knicks stuff that nobody's ever done over the last four and three and stuff that the Knicks were hoping they would see with Mike Brown bringing his offensive mindset in a way that Thibodeau just couldn't and I don't see gassed Knick players and that was always the conversation about him, Thibodeau by the time the playoffs hit they were they were toast You guys are deep, man.
9:45Rich Eisen:That's the other thing, too, is they hit their roster in the offseason. I don't want to start talking about it too deep. It's just one game. I get it totally. But Tibbs would only play six guys. That's it. I know. Meanwhile, Anthony Edwards returned from the Minnesota Timberwolves. Meanwhile. And I just love watching him play. The only thing I love watching him do more than play is talk after the game. He's talking during it, too. And he showed up with the color schemes all back in San Antonio. And listen, I know Chris Weber calls Rudy Gobert the stifle tower, but Victor Wembonyama's out there too.
10:24Rich Eisen:You know, Gobert's not the only Frenchman out there. And Wembonyama, 11, 15, and 12, he got a triple-double. The 12 being not assists, but blocks.
10:39Rich Eisen:and Anthony Edwards leading the way along with Jaden McDaniels and the rest of this team. And they went into game one feeling good about themselves because Ant was back sooner than I think a lot of people expected. And put it on the board, man. because he didn't just show up. He showed out with 18 points, and I do believe he did, in fact, play how many minutes right here? Coming off the bench, he played 25. Didn't start. 18 points, 8 of 13 from the floor. And then, of course, a big wind at the sails of the Minnesota Timberwolves. Hit it. I know for a fact just me being out there, it calms everybody down.
11:34Rich Eisen:not saying like there's any pressure on any of my teammates, but it takes pressure off of everybody just knowing that I'm out there. I'm available to play. Yeah, and just, you know, doing what I do best, just trying to put the ball in the hoop. Just showing up in the tank top, right? And the shades and the hat. It's just, I love everything about him. He's effortlessly cool. Effortlessly cool. And, you know, Julius Randle with 41 minutes last night. He had a double-double, 21-10. McDaniels with 16 points. Nas Reed, he's so good, that Nas Reed. He's big and he's good and he can shoot threes. You don't leave him open.
12:16Rich Eisen:He actually led the team in the plus-minus department with plus 15. And Wembanyama last night, with that triple-double on the defensive end, he appeared gassed on the offensive end, don't you think? Yeah, 0-8 from 3. didn't get break double-digit points until the late fourth quarter. He really struggled on offense. So did Fox. The two of them can't combine for 20 points and expect to win games. If I'm not mistaken, let me get this correct. The most misses from deep without a make by a player in Spurs playoff history. 0 for 8 from 3 for Wemba Nyamo, who did admit afterwards that expending all that energy on the defensive end left him lacking on the other end.
13:02Rich Eisen:Started by making some shots. Felt like, no, I had to use my energy. You know, obviously used a lot of it on one side of the court. And on the other side, I used too much. Offensively, I used too much energy in things that didn't really help our team. So that's on me. But first thing, I started by making some shots. It's a lot of me because obviously my game wasn't good, wasn't feeling good tonight, and that's where the team is going to look for me. And, you know, if I had been better, if the offensive leaders of our team had been better, it would have been different. So basically if everything was different, it would have been different.
13:49Rich Eisen:Thanks, gentlemen. I think that's a new drop. Mike, can I get that a new drop? Yes. Basically if things were different, they'd be different, which is a different that's like a Yogi the Yogi Berra it does seem like the best thing about us is about us if things were different they would have been different they would have been different obviously which is one way to put it I'd like that what else you want to know follow up with that you know follow up with that easily goes without saying if things were different they'd be different yeah because when you take that bus Eventually you get there. 104-102.
14:28Rich Eisen:Edwards. Oh, Edwards. We're not done with him yet. Apparently he had a nice comment about playing on the road with the colored shirts and everything. Oh, yeah, yeah. In the crowd. Please. I mean, everybody in the arena is against us. Yeah, I think that's the best thing. That's the best thing about it. You start on the road. Everybody got on pink, blue, and whatever color shirts there is, chanting, go Spurs, go, and doing all that. And, you know, I'm with Minnesota. I got Minnesota back at all times. So I'm out there with my brothers, and we're going to war. We're going to war. Up 1-0. So that series has started.
15:06Rich Eisen:That's what they say, right? No series. Yeah, when road team wins. So the road team wins. That series has started. Nick Sixers have not. Yep. Mm-hmm. As of yet. No. We shall see. Rudy Gobert is somebody who can take Wembon Yama. Randall then takes him when he's out. and it seems like you can somehow, someway, get him to take those threes and he misses him. He can come out with the win. Because certainly when he's taking two steps from the top of the key and jamming it down with his left hand as he did in the fourth quarter last night when the Spurs needed points too. Doesn't help that Castle fouled out too.
15:43Rich Eisen:So there's ways for the Spurs to improve, but fun stuff from the first game in round number two tonight, Oklahoma City taking on the Lakers as well as the Cavs and the Pistons in that Eastern Conference series. We'll talk about it with you, 844-204-RICH, number to dial. Brian Windhorst in our number two. But joining us next, ladies and gentlemen, Jeff Teague. Let's go. We'll join us to give us his two cents. That's next. This is The Rich Eisen Show.
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17:59And I've seen how the Rockets without Kevin Durant and a primary scorer, they've made it a series. You know what I mean? You know, we expected LeBron and those guys to take advantage of Kevin Durant being out. But actually, the Rockets made it a series, and I just don't see they can do anything with that OKC team. So if Luka was healthy, you'd have a different tune right now. Oh, definitely. Definitely. I mean, that's 35 points that you're missing. And the playmaking ability, obviously, defensively would have been a question mark. But offensively, he's so good. Not seeing him dominate series and take a team to the finals.
18:34I feel like Luka has the ability to put a team on his shoulders and get them past a really good team.
18:40Rich Eisen:Well, what about Austin Reeves catching fire? And DeAndre Ayton does seem to be playing a more engaged game, to use a word that usually is used against him, that he looks disengaged. Yeah, he's playing well. I mean, he had a big double-double. I just don't believe that they can outlast the OKC team. Like, Austin Reeves is a really talented player, and he's going to get paid a lot this summer, and he's really, really good. But I think that OKC hangs their hat on defense, and Kaysom Wallace, I feel, is going to be all over him. Lou Dort is going to be switching. Those guys care about winning the championship.
19:20They've done it before. They've been there. They know what it takes. LeBron obviously knows what it takes. But for some reason, that young group just plays well together, man. and they're hungry.
19:29Rich Eisen:Jeff Teague here on the Rich Eisen Show. Let's review last night's proceedings. Are the Knicks the best team in the East right now, do you think? Yeah. Shocker. I hate to say it. Shout out some to my guys, some of the guys that I'm really cool with from New York. I hate to say it, but the Knicks are playing great basketball. The vibes in New York are crazy right now. Why do you hate to say it, Jeff? I mean, why do you hate to say it? Because, man, I'm an Indiana kid. I'm not a huge Pacer fan. but last year the Pacers beat up on the Knicks, and this year they didn't have an opportunity to ruin the Knicks summer again.
20:04So I'm a little upset about it.
20:05Rich Eisen:But don't you think this Knicks team's better in a way, a large way from last year's team? They're deeper. They're just not playing the Pacers. Hmm. Interesting. It would be a different story, huh? Look at you trolling the New Yorkers right now, Jeff. Now they just don't got the Pacers. You know, the Pacers will put them out the last two years, I think. Yeah, I'm aware of that. Yeah, that's true. That's true. But this team does appear to – certainly over the last four games, less hero ball from Brunson. And that's the way that they lost their last game is because they couldn't even get a shot off.
20:41Rich Eisen:And offensively, it does appear like they're using Carl Anthony Towns in a more inventive way. And defensively – Is that the top post being a playmaker? Right. I didn't forget. But it's been working. But, like I said, they haven't went up against a really, really good team yet. Like, no disrespect to the Sixers. And the Sixers probably bounced back and played way better. But the Hawks were a team that went through a trade, and I'm a Hawks fan. They went through a trade, losing Trey Young. They rebuilt the roster in the middle of the year. Obviously, bringing over C.J. McCullough and those guys, that players who played really, really well.
21:17But I don't think that was a team that we expected much of. I mean, Nikhil Alexander-Walker had a really good year. Kaminga comes over. And they had a good run, but I don't think we thought that was a playoff team that was going to really make some noise.
21:31Rich Eisen:So the Pistons, in your estimation, are the team that's standing in the way of New York. Is that the next best team that they could be playing, do you think? The Cavs team, they play well. Donovan Mitchell and James Harden can limit the turnovers. We know what Donovan Mitchell can do in the playoffs. He can go for 40 points on any given night. James Harden is still James Harden. With Evan Mobley and Jared Allen, having those bigs, those versatile bigs that can guard, I think it's going to be a really tough series for Detroit, but I think that will be a great matchup for the Knicks. I love Jalen Brunson.
22:10I don't think nobody on that team could guard Jalen Brunson, but I think that'll be their biggest challenge.
22:14Rich Eisen:Jeff Teague here on the Rich Eisen Show. Did the Timberwolves show how tough a matchup they are for the Spurs last night, being able to pull Wemba Nyama out from underneath the rim, certainly in the second half after he blocked eight shots in the first, and then make him work on both ends of the floor to the point where he's missing on the offensive end. Did they expose the Spurs in a way that you think they can exploit three more times in that series, Jeff? Yeah, I mean, Anthony Edwards coming back was a huge, huge bonus. I didn't expect that. I mean, I don't know what they're doing in Minnesota.
22:49I wish they would have did that when I was there. but um shout out to them but him getting back in he changes the series i mean he's a star uh fourth quarter he goes off for 11 points but the the expected for me i knew wimby he's gonna have better games and defensively he was amazing but dearon fox has to be special for this team to to make noise and last night that wasn't his best game his best performances and we know that he's a really good player he dominates in the fourth mostly but um he's gonna have to step it up and play well, but I expect this game, this series to go seven. I think it's going to be a back and forth battle.
23:24I think San Antonio is really, really good, but the Timberwolves they've been here before and Anthony Edwards is a problem. Julius Randle played great last night. It's going to be a back and forth series. I see it going seven. I don't know who I have though.
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23:37Rich Eisen:Oh, why, why don't you have somebody? What do you mean? Cause I played in Minnesota. Okay. Now three is one of my guys. Okay. De 'Aaron Fox is one of my favorite players. I got ties all over. That's what I was about to say, Jeff. I mean, five teams, five teams, you know. I got ties. Well, you play for 22 teams in your NBA career. You start. That's right. That's what I was about to say. It seems like a common denominator through all of these things. Six degrees of separation. Six degrees of T. Literally. So at the end of the day, though, you're going to have to take a stand against somebody that you like or played with or is your guy.
24:15Rich Eisen:You know what I mean? Game one never really counts to me. It's a filler game. You know what I mean? Filler? Yeah, you got to test the teams out. It's not really, you know, game two, I'll see how they play. And that'll give me a little more of a gauge on who I want to go with. Okay. So we'll put a pin in that, Jeff Teague. That's what we'll do. So at the end of the day, who's got the best chance of beating Oklahoma City? Ah, man. Well, out the east, the Knicks, just because I think Jalen Brunson is that special. I think he scores the ball just as well as SGA. Defensively, they have the wings. They have the size.
24:55If Mitchell Robinson could make a free throw, oh, my God. If he could just make a free throw. Right. The Knicks would be really, really good if he could make a free throw. Because when he's on the floor, man, he's a dominant player, man. Offensively, rebounding, protecting the rim. really good defender, but you just can't keep him on the floor because of the free throws. But I think the Knicks really got a really good chance to make it a competitive series against OKC.
25:20Rich Eisen:OK. Seems like I feel like it's pulling teeth for you to say something nice about the Knicks right now. It is. I'm not going to lie. Because I got a lot of friends in New York. Yes. Oh, they're so geeked right now because last year, obviously, being from Indiana, we beat them. I got to talk a bunch of junk. Yeah. Tyron, there's no shots. Aaron Neesmith went crazy. And I'm not even a Pacers fan. I did play for the Pacers. That's one of the other 19 teams I played for. But you just don't like the Knicks. Do you not like New York? Is it the food? Is it the people? No, I love New York. Okay, so why would you want New York to be happy then?
25:55Just the rivalry, like Reggie, Spike, Chokesaw, like all that growing up in Indiana, you just kind of got a little, little hate for the Knicks just because of Reggie Miller. But they're really good this year.
26:09Rich Eisen:So why don't you hate the Bulls as much? I mean, because they're the ones. I mean, let's be honest. I mean, if we want to talk about an impediment to anybody in the East. But who doesn't love Michael Jordan, though? I know. I know. I mean, I was rooting for Mike against the Pacers, so I ain't going to lie. So what is a New York thing? It's just Mike. It's different, man. It's just Michael Jordan. Everybody rooting for Michael Jordan. I didn't even know basketball without Michael Jordan. Like, he just might. But when I seen Reggie Miller go against Spike and all the hate we got when we went up to New York and then when they came here, we was going against them.
26:51The rivalry was just unbelievable. And every time I see a highlight and Reggie hitting those, what did he score? Eight points in what? 18 seconds. Yeah, something like that. Yeah. I wanted to remind y 'all, you know what I mean?
27:03Rich Eisen:I don't know. That was, you know, I'm a New Yorker, Jeff. I know. I know you know that, but I'm just pointing it out. That was one of the worst days of my sports life that day. You've brought it up no fewer than 10 times in the last three minutes. Okay. What was the worst? Was it when Aaron Neesmith hit those five threes? Or was it that Reggie? No, Reggie. I mean, because Reggie, that shouldn't have happened. You know, Neesmith, by the way, where's he been? You know what I mean? They're resting up. They're getting ready for next year. Don't worry about him. Can you explain the new lottery system to me?
27:42I can't, actually. I can't. I was going to ask you to explain it to me. It's going to take away a little bit from tanking. Is it?
27:50Rich Eisen:I don't know. Me and Mark Cuban was talking about this on the show, and he was just like, this is one of the dumbest things I ever heard. And shout out to Mark Cuban. But he was trying to explain it to me, and I was like, well, hopefully the Hawks just get the number one pick this year, and we get A.J. DeBanta, and I wouldn't care about the tanking next year. Well, you know, the Pacers are in that mix too. Yeah, I really can go to the Hawks. I'm a Hawks fan at the core. I spent most of my time in the NBA with the Hawks. Okay, I got you. Okay, so did Cuban like it? He likes the new anti-tanking?
28:22He didn't. Nah, he wasn't really for it. I got to ask him again, though.
28:27Rich Eisen:Yeah, it's so difficult for a fan to understand. You know what I mean? It's just tough to figure out if you're in a relegation zone or you're in the next seven and you get so many ping pong balls here or there. I don't get it. How would you like it to go? I would like it to go where you finish in last and there's no lottery. The NFL does it with no lottery. Why does there need to be a lottery in the NBA? Why can't teams and players or front offices or whoever it is be trusted? Why don't they care about winning? Yeah. Why don't they care? I wouldn't be mad at that. As long as you couldn't get the number one pick like three years in a row.
29:13Like, you only can get it like, what, every three years or something like that? That would be cool.
29:17Rich Eisen:Yeah, I mean, they did come up with that part of this anti-tanking. But it's as simple as if you're terrible, you should get the best player to try and get back in the mix. and you know if you now create a system where there's a bunch of people that have a shot at getting the best player and all you got to be is somewhat terrible or terrible terrible I mean why not just leave it up to I don't know maybe that's naive trusting everybody to try and win you know that's what I'm saying man I'm not gonna lie I agree with you but boy it's been some bad teams and I hate to get drafted to some of those.
30:00Like I know Cooper flag was so excited. He got drafted to Dallas. Like I get to go to a cool city. I know he's seen that draft lottery, no shade to any other teams in the league, but I'm pretty happy. I'm pretty sure he was happy to go to Dallas.
30:14Rich Eisen:Yeah. But what did they do this year? Nothing. You know, nothing in Dallas and nothing in some of these other cities, Jeff Teague, everybody right here on the Rich Eisen show. All right. Good to chat with you, Jeff. Jeff, I appreciate the time. Let's do this again more often. Please. I would love to come on the show way more. Rich, I got one more question. Please. So, what up, Teague? We spent a lot of time walking by each other at WrestleMania this past two weekends ago. You didn't tell me you ran into Jeff Teague. I mean. Or you walked past. What do you mean by walk past? Well, we acknowledge each other like Roman Reigns was in the building a few times, you know.
30:49Rich Eisen:But, Teague, you were in the midst of Carl Anthony Towns, Joe L. Embiid a little scrap a few years ago. It's like I said, you're like that Marvel character that connects all these different dimensions and things. What do you remember about this? If you remember this, Brockman, Kat and Embiid get into it. Ben Simmons throws Kat into a headlock. Teague's right there in the middle of it all, bro. What do you remember about this? I remember before the game, we always kind of hyped Kat up against Joel Embiid. You know, that's a big man matchup, both really talented players. And Cat just kept saying, like, I'm not going today.
31:25I'm not going today. I didn't know he meant, like, he was going to fight him that day. On the day. And they got to, you know, playing hard against each other, talking trash back and forth. I think they were beating our butts. They were probably killing us. And I just see Cat, like, everybody made a little ruckus or whatever, and Cat had him in a headlock for a second. And then I ran down there trying to get Joel Embiid. I don't know what I was thinking. He's 300 pounds. I'm 190. I thought I was doing something I wasn't doing anything. But it was actually, it was good to see because, you know, Cat get a lot of slack.
31:58You know, people talk about he's not that tough or whatever. And for him to protect himself and, you know, get a little rumble a little bit, get active a little bit, I liked it.
32:09Rich Eisen:Yeah, I just was re-watching that the other day, and I was like, oh, yeah, there's T and they're trying to break that up. Yeah, you know, Carl Anthony Towns plays in New York now. And you know what I mean? That's my good guy. He's your guy. So he's your guy. He's your guy. And Jalen Brunson. Yeah, Brunson's your guy. He's your guy. I consider myself now your guy, Jeff. That's right. You know, I mean. Rick is my guy. Rick Brunson, that's really my guy. Okay. So what's going on? I got the Knicks one in the finals, man. There we go. Could you imagine if they get a parade going downtown Manhattan because of what they do, it would be lit.
32:48I've just seen what they did to J.R. Smith. I do not. Oh, man. It's going to be crazy. Yeah.
32:54Rich Eisen:Chris, you got something for Jeff? Yeah, look. The Celtics jersey is hanging. I'm a Celtics guy. And I've already seen this, and I feel like this is going to be a conversation this summer. Should the Celtics try to go after Giannis? Wow. And let who go? Feels like JB is a one-for-one with the salaries matchup. hmm so i i okay i played in milwaukee
33:25Rich Eisen:so yeah this is my guy i am not proposing to do this i do not want to break up the jays but i there is a faction in the media that has been wanting to break up the jays for quite some time and i feel like this is going to be a conversation because clearly janice wants out of milwaukee yeah i i don't want to break up the jays either i think they play well together. I think they need to switch up the way they play offensively. I think they have so much talent with those two to drive the ball to the basket. I think Jalen Brown is probably one of the best drivers of the ball that I've ever seen in practice or been around.
33:58I know Jason Tatum, he's coming back from injury, but he can get to the basket too. I think they need to move on from Derek White and try to get a big. If they can make that happen, I think they still have a really good team.
34:13Rich Eisen:Are you saying don't trade for Giannis? No, I don't think so. I think Giannis, I mean, obviously Giannis is a great talent, but I just think JB and JT, it worked. They won a championship, but the surrounding pieces around them were really good. Like Al Horford made shots, Porzingis made shots. He was hurt during that run. Drew Holiday was special for them. And Derek White played well too, but I think they needed to get some more complimentary pieces just around them. You agree? Obviously, I agree. Can we add Giannis and keep the Jays together? Oh, my gosh. I don't know if there's an apron large enough.
34:47Rich Eisen:What? That's, you know, that's what, you know, I don't know how they could work that on the cap. We're back under. I got a question. Who would you like, though, since you can't get Giannis? Obviously, you don't want to break the Jays up. Who would you like to see in the Celtics? I don't know. You're right with needing a big, clearly, if Embiid is healthy, the Celtics have no answer, no one to guard him. I don't know. I don't know what's out there. I don't know what the fix is. But I agree with you that a change in offensive philosophy is needed. I don't want to fire Joe. I think he's done a great job and he's a great motivator.
35:19Rich Eisen:And I think he's kind of perfect for this group. Can't shoot 53 is a game. We just, we can't go on like this. Let's take it down to 35, just 35 threes. That's totally fine. Just get a big, totally fine. Let's just find a big somewhere. You need a big, you can't have, you can't have the defensive. No, can't do it. You're not in front like you had against Embiid. Kata played great this year, but he's just not thick enough to defend these guys. They had Jalen Brown guard him down the stretch in game seven. Yeah. That was great. I know. I loved it. That's when all that flopping took place, apparently.
35:54Rich Eisen:You got a front row seat to the flopping. There's video evidence. He's the one pulling the chair. I don't even think he's flopping, Teague. I just think Embiid's just kind of awkward. You know, like when you're like 13 and you hit a growth spurt and you're kind of all over the place? I think that just carried over into his early 30s. He's just kind of a gangly, awkward 7 '1", 300-pound man. Yeah, he's like, as we kept saying, he's like that windsock outside of the Ford dealership. He's like a Bailey floating. Outside the car he used to use, remember? Definitely. Yeah, he's got no appendix, no ligaments left.
36:24We call that sloppy where I'm from.
36:29Rich Eisen:Jeff, great chatting with you. We'll chat again soon. Thanks again. I appreciate it. You got it. Check out the Club 520 podcast. There goes Jeff Teague, everybody. Love it. That's a lot of fun. He played for every team, and he knows everybody. He's like you. Kind of. You know everybody. He knows everybody. He's like, I played for them. It's a perfect match for us. Me and T, you know we get along. You get a team. It's a perfect match for this program. You get a team. Absolutely. You know? He only played for five. I got to go seek out that cat, Embiid. Oh, it was like 2016 or something? Yeah, I don't recall it off the top of my head, obviously, like you, a Sixer fan would.
37:02Rich Eisen:Yeah, it was great. It was great. Carl Anthony Towns. My favorite. point center. We got to get him back. Do we? Yeah, we do. Do we? We need to get him beat. Because he's making the Eagles fans, who he loves, very upset. I don't think he cares, though. He could knock out the Sixers and root for the Eagles just like anybody else. Prioritize. He's three games away from that. All right. Windhorse making his way to the studio. 844-204-RICH. Oh, he's here. Hey! Wendy's here. All right, so he's going to join us top of the next hour. Play the song, Mike. No, I can't. I can't do that. Can't play. Can't play that song.
37:40Rich Eisen:Play the song. What's the matter with you? It's just a couple bucks. Just play the music to break. Mickey's got money. There's that song. I'll play it. Here we go. Rich Eisen Show. Back in a moment. Wow.
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39:17Rich Eisen:And that's exactly what you can do by offering to list your space. No big lifestyle change. No long-term commitment. Just making smart use of the space you already have. So the next time your city draws a crowd, think about listing your space on Airbnb. Your home might be worth more than you think. Find out how much at Airbnb.com slash host. 844-204-RICH, number to dial here on the program. Great sports night for, say, a Nick Yankee fan. although the Yankees 12 to 1 win with a cloud over it if you will the first game the Yankees have played in 87 years without John Sterling on planet earth and as we know John Sterling passed away and his longtime radio and broadcast partners Susan Waldman and Michael Kay laid flowers on home plate as a remarkable, you know, seek it out.
40:23Rich Eisen:I know not everyone's a Yankee fan or a John Sterling fan with that, but it was about a six-minute long tribute video to him, which was just remarkable. The Yankees nailed it. And then the game starts. Aaron Judge steps to the plate with a man on bottom of the first inning, and this happened. And the pitch. High drive. Right center field. Going back to Paris. It is high. It is four. It is gone. Aaron Judge. A Judgeian blast. Here comes the judge. Everything but all rise from Michael Kay giving a John Sterling salute with his call. that's what he would it's what he'd done with a judge pretty much pretty neat stuff right there and it's just it's you know it's sad just did you see the other radio calls that happened yesterday though yeah around the league too man yeah like Mets win Mets win Mariners like all the radio guys were adopting his calls and that was really awesome that's cool it was great it was around around Major League Baseball.
41:43Rich Eisen:I saw that. Hold on a second. The Mets won? That is surprising. On the Met Gala night. Wow. Yeah. Everything was coming up Mets. Stunning. The Mets actually won a baseball game. I mean, your team's got 14 wins. One yesterday. Okay, but one more than us, so you probably shouldn't have that. Guys, this segment's not about you. If you want to make it about you. No, not this one. I mean, if you really do want to make it about you, put it up. All rise. Yanks are now 24-11. Not in last. And the Metropolitan's just nine games under right now. Just nine. That's it. It's a long season. Red Sox seven under.
42:25Rich Eisen:Peyton Toll was dealing yesterday. The Yankees have the Texas Rangers. Rangers. Rangers. For three. 127 games left, boys. A lot of time to turn this ship. I'm with you. I hear you. Turn the ship around. I hear you. Let's go to Nick in San Pedro, California, just a little bit south of here of the Rich Eisen Show. What's going on, Nick? Hey there. Good morning, Rich. Good morning, guys. What up, Nick? How you guys doing? I tell you, Rich, just want to give you your flowers on Michigan real quick. You know, I've been following you for a while now, and I like the show and everything, and I figured this was the one way to get my thoughts or my message across.
43:06Rich Eisen:You know, I love baseball. Baseball is my favorite sport. And I'm sorry about Sterling passing away. And I think the Yankees are a great organization. They play nothing but above 500 baseball. And I'm sick of baseball now because of my team. I boycotted a year. I put a bag over my head for the year. I've asked Artie Moreno to sell the team. And you already know how that's gone. It's breaking my heart in pieces. and now I lost one of my favorite baseball players in GA. And it's just been devastating. This whole year, it's been a disaster. And we got an intern coach, I feel like, at Kurt Suzuki at best.
43:50And it just breaks my heart because I see this good kid out of Millville,
43:55Rich Eisen:and I want him to have it so bad. I want him to have it so bad, but I don't see it happening anytime soon, anytime soon unless there's a drastic change with the organization. I mean, for crying out loud, we even have rats at our stadium. Rats. I mean, that's the breaking news that we get out of SoCal, Anaheim. And it's just breaking my heart. And I don't even go to the games no more. I walk by, I'd rather go to the A &PM on the corner, get me a Dodger dog and a beer, and know we're going to lose. I haven't had only two wins in the last three weeks. And you know what? It's going to be a good year for sport people in New York.
44:36I got the Knickerboppers going to the finals against the Thunder, and then I also have the Yankees going up against the Dodgers
44:44Rich Eisen:in the World Series this year. And all I'm asking for is if they're not going to do nothing for my Angels, then give Mike Trout a chance. Send them off to New York or send them off to the Dodgers. We all know if he ever decides to make that decision where we all assume he would want to go, Nick. And I feel like I should give you one of those fame Rich Eisen show bro hugs. Nick's feeling everything, man. Here comes, I'm going to go, you know, my arms out. Now, hold on a minute. We tap, tap, and then we separate. And just I gave you a little light hug there. But I appreciate the call, Nick. And thank you for saying what you said about the show callback.
45:21Rich Eisen:And, you know, hopefully better times ahead for your halos. I felt that, man. He was very emotional right there. Yeah. but I feel like Angels fans are broken. They were off for a decent start this year. They've only won one of the last 10 games. When they came into New York, they were world beaters. They beat the crap out of the Yankees. And then ever since then, they've gone right off a cliff. And Trout is back. He's having a great season. Well, Trout, being from South Jersey, I think Phillies fans will raise their hands and say, we'll take him. But it feels like he would have asked out by now.
45:57Rich Eisen:I don't know. at this point in time, the Angels are 10 under. 10 under. Worst record in the American League, so I'd understand it. Thanks for listening to the Rich Eisen Show podcast. You can watch and listen to the Rich Eisen Show live weekdays from noon to 3 Eastern on ESPN Radio, Disney Plus, and on the ESPN app. The Rich Eisen Show. The podcast.
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Rich and the guys react the Knicks blowing out the 76ers in Game 1 of
their Eastern Conference Semifinal series, and to Anthony Edwards’ return from a knee injury to lead the Timberwolves to a Game 1 upset of Victor Wembanyama and the Spurs in San Antonio. ‘Club 520’ co-host Jeff Teague and Rich discuss the Boston Celtics’ early exit from the NBA Playoffs and if Boston should trade for Giannis Antetokounmpo in the offseason, if the LeBron and the shorthanded Lakers have a chance to win a game in their series against the Thunder, why the Knicks look like the team to beat in the East so far, if the Timberwolves Game 1 win over the Spurs was an aberration, weighs in on the NBA’s convoluted anti-tanking
proposal, and more. Rich reacts to the Yankees’ tribute to longtime announcer John Sterling.
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