Hour 1: Live from Super Bowl LX with Steelers DT Cam Heyward, plus Harden/Garland Trade Reaction

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0:54Rich Eisen:This is the Rich Eisen Show. Hey, everybody. Can't get enough of the Rich Eisen Show? You're in luck. You can find us everywhere. Watch us weekdays on Disney Plus from noon to 3 Eastern. Miss the show? We've got a podcast so you can listen anytime. But here's the best part. Our YouTube channel. Subscribe at youtube.com slash Rich Eisen Show and you'll never miss a moment. Now, on with the show. Touchdown! Patriots! Touchdown! Seahawks! Live from San Francisco, home of Super Bowl 60, it's the Rich Eisen Show. Today's guest, Steelers defensive tackle Cam Hayward, four-time Super Bowl champion Rob Gronkowski, Pro Football Hall of Famer Charles Woodson, comedian Frank Caliendo, Academy Award-winning actor Octavia Spencer.

1:50Rich Eisen:And now, Rich Eisen. Oh, baby. Welcome to this Super Bowl 60 edition of the Rich Eisen Show live from San Francisco, California. We are downtown in San Francisco in a random office building. I'm not lying. We're just happy to be here and happy you are here with us. Disney Plus and the ESPN app is how you can stream us live to see what we're doing here. If you're listening to us on ESPN Radio, Sirius XM Channel 80, we greatly appreciate it. And if you want to see what we're doing in hour number three, we'll show up on ESPN 2. And our guests in that hour, as you just heard, Charles Woodson and the Oscar-winning actress Octavia Spencer will be here in our studio here in San Francisco, California.

2:39Rich Eisen:Cam Hayward, Frank Caliendo, and Gronk will be first up. 4204 Rich is the number to dial, as always, here on the program. My three guys made it all the way from Los Angeles, California. Good to see you, Christopher Brockman. Rich, how are you, Mike? Going down the road, TJ Jefferson. What's up, guys? You didn't bring a candle here, right? Because I think I just don't know if it would be legal here in our building. I'll have one tomorrow, though. Good to see you, Mike DelTucco. Good to see you, Rich. And it's so nice of you to join us. Rich, by the way, I won't do any banking today. No, it's fine because you've got to focus.

3:12Rich Eisen:I've got to focus. I don't have a computer in front of me. Well, you don't even have to do the sound. You're just here just as you. I know. I'm here to hang out. And it's so cool of you to show up in San Francisco in a Dodger hat. You're so welcoming. Unbelievable. A Dodger hat. And he's a Yankee fan. Wow. What the heck is happening? I was a Yankee fan. Okay, thank you so much. He'll be a Giants fan by the time we get out of here, Mike. Oh, by the way, I can't believe I left out our very special guest to my left. Oh, hey. Oh, yeah. If you're watching on Disney +, or if you're watching on the ESPN app, you 100 % know exactly who's to my left.

3:47Rich Eisen:It is the Vince Lombardi Trophy. It's right here on the Rich Eisen Show. Just to the left of my desk right here. If you can show it, that would be outstanding. Yeah, you can see right over here. There it is. Thank you so much. The Vince Lombardi Trophy is sitting here on this set. So, you know, there's some who've won it. and those people will attempt to touch the trophy, but unfortunately that is just not going to happen because, well, maybe we'll have Gronk put the gloves on. You've got to put gloves on in order to actually. Well, he might want to spike it. He sees football spike. Actually, I'll ask him, how many trophies has he ruined?

4:23Rich Eisen:One that we know of. Right, okay. One on the books, a few off. But we do have the Vince Lombardi trophy that's here, and it's pretty sweet, and I don't know if this is the one that's actually going to be handed out to the Seahawks or the Patriots on Sunday night. It's entirely possible. There's a couple of them. Yeah, the box said VLT4. VLT4, that might be the, yeah, that means there's at least four of them. There's at least four. That's how many Gronk has won. Interesting that you would even point this out. Oh, just facts. Well, it's not all with the Patriots either. Yeah. Brady and he won one for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

4:55Rich Eisen:And then, you know, this is Super Bowl number 12 for our show. And since it's Super Bowl 23 for me with NFL Network, That's how we have the Vince Lombardi trophy here is the greatest set dressing in all of sports television. That the first Super Bowl we ever covered was Super Bowl 49 in Arizona. And that was Seattle versus New England. And here we are today with Seattle versus New England. And the circumstances could not be more different this time around than the last time around because the Seahawks were coming into this game trying to put back to back championships together. And they we obviously know could not because at the end of the game, Malcolm Butler intercepts Russell Wilson on the one yard line.

5:49Rich Eisen:And then New England wins for the first time in a decade. Their longest stretch of the Brady era of going without a championship. Obviously, they made Super Bowls in between. But this one was finally in the win column for New England. And this sparked three championships in the next five years for New England. A second dynasty, dynastic run in the Tom Brady Belichick era. and you know um i'll do it i'll say it you'll hear it on sunday night i'm sure on nbc the name patrick mahomes you'll hear it and this is exactly again what what new england was able to affect after beating seattle in that first super bowl we covered and the last time these two teams played obviously in the big game is exactly what we're seeing or we're trying to see from kansas city is moving on to a second iteration of a Reed Mahomes era, except Mahomes is going to start most likely watching unless he comes back from a knee injury, which is a very 2008 New England story.

7:04Rich Eisen:So there's a lot of parallels in the history of this game and the matchup of this game and how different it is from that time to this time also in the the scope of the nfl writ large because drake may joins joe burrow as the only non-mahomes afc quarterbacks in the super bowl this decade which started as we all know with mahomes taking on brady in that super bowl and then And Burrow pops through, beats Mahomes in the AFC championship game to get to the Super Bowl to take on the Rams, who almost made it to this game. If Seattle had not dispatched with them in the NFC title game, Mahomes makes it the next three years.

7:50Rich Eisen:And here comes Drake May and the New England Patriots as far afield from the last time. A veteran team around the GOAT, who we already knew was a first ballot Hall of Famer, which Tom Brady's going to be. We don't know that. Tom Brady's going to be. I don't know. I said it. We were so sure about Bill and Robert. It's a different story, as we all know. It's a different voting method. But we stray from the lane here that I'm trying to get to, which is this Patriots team is a completely different type of team than the last time they played Seattle in the Super Bowl. A second-year quarterback trying to take this team to where Brady took it as a second-year quarterback with a stunning win against an NFC West team that everybody thinks is going to spank them.

8:38Rich Eisen:Drake May had this to say about how he's feeling the latest shoulder check on Drake May. Hit it. Yeah, I'm feeling great. I'm so fortunate to be out here with these guys. We've got a full week of practice. It was so good on Monday. I'm looking forward to getting back out there today and tomorrow and Friday and having a normal week. So looking forward to that and feeling good. He's handling his business, sir. He's got one more day of answering that. As the media availability for the Patriots went down today, Mike Vrabel, he also spoke. Again, this is a guy, he was gone by the time that this game took place.

9:14Rich Eisen:And he had already won his three rings with the New England Patriots. And he's now trying to take New England back to the podium for a seventh time. winning a seventh ring for the franchise. He was asked about all the experiences he had as a player in this game. I don't know how many times they're just going to try and unlock something from his playing in the Super Bowl that can actually be translated to his team this time around as a coach. Every game is different, and don't anticipate how it's going to go, whether it comes down to the end of the game situation or a kick or a two-minute drill try not to predict what those are going to be make sure that each and every situation is covered and understand that each of them is critical whether that's a short yardage early in the first quarter or that's a you know a red zone stop late in the game to give our chance our team a chance to win so just understand having watched all these super bowls in the last few years and the ones that I've been a part of, is trying not to really predict how it's going to go.

10:24Rich Eisen:And you'll have to see how the game's unfolding. But understand each situation that we're going to be asked to execute, we've been through, you know, since April. Vrabel was the Texans linebacker's coach in 2014 when this game was going. And Mike McDonald was a Ravens intern coach. He was on the coaching internship program with the Ravens in 2014. And Vrabel was a linebackers coach for the Texans in 2014. And Drake May was a baby. Nine years old or something? That is insane. We're old is what I'm saying. Well, that too. Yeah. And we all know Sam Darnold is practically a child as well back then.

11:12Rich Eisen:There's really no, and that's why Mike McDonald being asked on that Monday night media session about what play are you calling on fourth down or on the one yard line. What play are you calling? 30 seconds to go, one yard line, what play? It's got to be Kenneth Walker, right? I mean, a quick slant to JSN, that works too, right? I mean, the sports gods have a chance to do the funniest thing ever. A.J. Barner in the corner. In that situation. Why would that be the funniest thing ever? That wouldn't be funny. Why would you find that funny if you're sitting in Seattle right now, TJ? But I'm not. I'm sitting here.

11:50Rich Eisen:Okay. I think that would be a problem. Well, you're speaking for a Niner fan. Is that if the Seahawks lose in their building in that manner once again? For the record, Rich, I would never speak as a Niner fan. But you need Cooper Cup to make a crazy, acrobatic 50-yard catch a couple plays before that. Right. That's what happened. Jermaine Kearse setting them up inside the six-yard line. And then Kenneth Walker gets tackled at the one. By who? Spillane? Yes, Spillane. And then there's a decision to make. And then they hand the ball to Kenneth Walker. And then Sam Donner goes back to pass. And again and again.

12:32Rich Eisen:Okay. Sorry, Sam Donner. No, and then the Seahawks actually win it. How does that sound? How does that sound? Not great for you. Not your prediction? No. I need, because you put it out, Ricky Bobby. You know what I mean? Like, don't put that out there. Don't we love stories here? Oh, we do love stories. We call it a shot on Wednesday that this comes down to the last minute of the game? Well, I mean, we're going to open tomorrow's show. At least that's the plan right now. The last 10 games between these teams, last 10 games going back to 1992, have all been one-score games. And not just one-score games, but interceptions and fumbles and sacks and touchdown throws and wild sequence after wild sequence.

13:22Rich Eisen:These two teams play intense, crazy-ass, fantastic finish football games. so the idea that this is going to be another blowout we're going to unpack that uh considerably uh on our show to start thursday but we are often running here on a wednesday and we have one of the best in the business sitting on our green room couch right now and there is cam hayward why you shake don't shake your head we're excited to have don't butter me up

13:57Rich Eisen:The dulcet tones of Cam Hayward coming up next. Pittsburgh Steelers and the Ohio State great coming up to start off our Super Bowl league from San Francisco. The Rich Eisen Show podcast.

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16:57Rich Eisen:I love it. We're back here on the Rich Isaac Show on our radio simulcast on ESPN Radio as well as Sirius XM Channel 80 in our Disney Plus and ESPN feeds. courtesy of the Crucial Catch Initiative and not just football with Cam Hayward podcast. Cam Hayward, seven-time Pro Bowler, finished up season 15 right here on the program. You're sitting next to the Vince Lombardi trophy. I don't know if you've noticed that just sitting right here. What would it mean to you for – is that why you keep coming back, this baby in between us right here? One of the reasons. I think we all want to be at the top of the mountain.

17:33And, you know, I've accomplished a lot, but that's one thing that's kind of eluded me to this point. Right. And what would it mean for you to have this thing? When you get quick gratification, but I think it would just culminate to the work you put in for all those years. And it would let me know that the decisions I've made for my family to keep playing. Yeah. They're all justified.

17:58Rich Eisen:How many kids you have? Three. Three. How old are they? Ten, eight and six. Okay, man. The boy is, he got in trouble while I was gone. What happened? He was chasing my daughter. And he's the 10 or the 8? He's the 10. Okay. And he looks like he's 19. He's you already. Yeah, he is. Okay. You know, he's like the, you know, you've seen the Robin Williams movie, Jack. He's like that in school. He's so much bigger than everybody else. And I was too. but he was running after my daughter and he tried to stick his arm up and stopped the door ended up punching the door so now there's a big hole in the door and like he didn't tell me he was talking to my wife he was like have you told dad yet and i was like she told me just get ready for when i get home is it is it perfect timing that there's sirens as he's telling this story Wow.

18:57Rich Eisen:The sirens going off. Wow. Yeah. Okay, but that's what he... He's going to have to pay for it. He sounds like a smart kid, though. You know? When he wants to be. When he's not chasing after his sister. That's true. He might have the grades to get into Michigan is my point. He'll have better grades. We don't worry about getting into Michigan. We're going to pass it off to somebody else. Come on now. Herbstreet sent his kid to Michigan. You know what I mean? I don't know what Herbstreet was doing. I've got to tell you Herbstreet about that. He's giving his kid a great education and an exposure to a terrific group.

19:29Rich Eisen:He's going to enter the transfer portal and make his way over to Ohio State. We're breaking news here with Cam Hayward on the Rich Eisen Show. What do you think of this Super Bowl matchup? I think it's really fun. One, you've got a really good defense. You've got two really good defenses with really good fronts. Seattle has Leonard Williams and Byron Young. And then you have New England, who has Milton Williams and Christian Barmore, who all these D-linemen have a lot of respect for. But, you know, you have a mobile quarterback, Drake May, and, you know, you see the resurgence of Sam Darnold. So I love this game as a defender.

20:09And, you know, I'm glad that it's good weather for everybody. So is it tough because you're not in it?

20:17Rich Eisen:You don't want to talk about it or something like that? Okay. I have this dream that I play out of my head where, like, the game just gets canceled for some odd reason. Well, that wouldn't be very good for anybody. You know, you got to get this game. Good for me. No champion. No champion. Yeah, so did you watch any of the playoffs or not really? I started watching the championships, but the divisional round, I was kind of checked out. You were still, what were you, pissed, angry? Pissed, angry, sad. um you know i went through it all especially with mike t retiring and that was just very abrupt okay so if you don't mind walk me through that that he probably told you before he told me actually i did not know about it whatsoever you know i do i know you definitely knew i know i didn't you didn't tell me i'm heartbroken here's the thing though cam you know It surprised me because I just know what you live.

21:17Rich Eisen:And that's why I'd love for you to give some voice to it is, Guy just loves coaching. Yeah. So the idea that he's like, yeah, I'm done here. And I'm just not going to coach this year. Yeah. Really stunned me. Because he just loves chopping it up with somebody like you and your colleagues and being out there and the challenge and all of that. But, you know, what was it like when you walked into that meeting room? You know, when he told you and the team, if you don't mind taking me into that room. I was the last one to get in the room because I was handling an MRI before. And so everybody thinks I had talked to him.

21:53I hadn't had a chance to talk to him. And so I get into the room and I'm looking at my player grade sheet, you know, going through the plays. I'm like, he's going to go through, you know, what exit meetings are. And, you know, set up times with all your coaches to talk. and then he starts talking and he says you know i think it's time to step down and i was like did i just hear this right like my t's about to step down and i think we were all just in shock by it you know you could hear a pin drop and everybody was in there and um you know i got a chance to talk to him after that day but you know i just told him like like this shocked me um and you know, to happen so abrupt, I felt like I had failed him in that moment.

22:39What do you mean? Well, just we never got to reach the pinnacle of success like we always talked about. Huh.

22:46Rich Eisen:Right. So you had paperwork in your hands. Yes. That indicated business as usual. Yeah. Well, that's from your assistant coaches and everything. Right, but it still is an assistant coach that you're thinking is going to still be your assistant coach because your head coach is still your head coach. And then words come out of his mouth that you probably never thought you'd ever hear out of his mouth. I thought I was going to beat him to the punch, you know, retire before him. And it was just, it was really shocking. Is he retired though? Do you really think? Like done, done? Do you really? He's having a lot of fun.

23:23You know, he's got that glow of just like not having the weight on his shoulders. we've been talking about his daughter. She's playing at UGA. Well, he was there within 24 hours watching her. And you just see like he's excited about it. And we talk about it. And, you know, he loves being a parent. And I think, you know, spending that time and being a husband again is really huge for him right now. So he's going to just, again, I'm sorry to put you in a position of speaking for him.

23:49Rich Eisen:I can't do that. No, I know that. And he's going to have to speak for himself. But, yeah, I just it's it just stuns me that he's just going to like, you know, I'm just going to see the world. I'm going to travel the globe. Yeah, I'm going to I'm going to get out of the game. But after a while, like he just got a hunger for it. That's you know what I mean? That's the problem. Like that dude loves to break down tape. And he's a historian when it comes to the game. Like, you know, he'll be watching film and it might not apply to us. but he's just a fan of the game. And so, bundle that up of not doing anything for a year.

24:29It's going to be hard to pass up that itch once it gets to that point. Right.

24:33Rich Eisen:Is he going to be on your pod with you or something like that? Are you going to do me? I think so. Do you have him on? There's a new Montez Whipple with Cam Hayward and Mike Tomlin podcast. I told him. I said, don't you do Ben or Koontz's pod first. I need that interview. you so uh he laughed but uh we'll see right um and you know your perspective i asked you about this a couple weeks ago when you were kind enough to zoom in um towards the end of the regular season about you strolling off the field with mike and aaron he gave a lot more of an answer i was surprised by that when you saw when when i asked about it yeah yeah i mean here there it is that's the the three of you guys you know walking off a field um in victory right here it's funny i remember this conversation we were talking about practice for the next week what do you mean um and making sure that we had all the guys in on monday to go through everything and just really hit the ground running uh this was after the detroit game it was all debacle at the end of that game but you know me aaron and mike t were just like man we gotta we gotta keep cooking with gas and get ready for the next game.