Hour 1: MLB Playoffs Reactions, plus NFL Network’s Kurt Warner Talks Drake Maye, Eagles & More

30 Sep 2026 · 47 min · 19 chapters

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In short

Reactions to MLB playoff games, including Phillies-Braves (Don Mattingly interim; J.T. Realmuto two-run triple; closer Jeff Duran early; Braves win game 1 after a three-run HR), Cubs-Padres (Michael King MVP on three pitches; Tatis HR to start; Cubs’ no-hitter ends in 6 1/3; Padres win 8-0 with Joe Musgrove finishing), and White Sox-Astros (Pope Leo XIV sends a papal letter of support; Colson Montgomery homers; late scare). Also covers Yankees-Red Sox wildcard history and Ben Rice’s grand slam vs Boston. Hour 1 then shifts to “Warner Wednesday”: Kurt Warner discusses Drake Maye’s confidence issues, Eagles offensive continuity and missing “X receiver” dynamics, and JJ McCarthy trade rationale.

Guests

Kurt Warner (Pro Football Hall of Famer; QB; calls Colts-Commanders London games on NFL Network). Joe Manganiello (actor and author; new book Bloodlines; Steelers fan).

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Excitement for Hockey Season

0:00 to 0:30

Discusses the return of hockey and the excitement surrounding it.

“And with access to over a thousand out-of-market games, you can watch them and the rest of the league.”

Preview of Guests and Topics

1:01 to 1:56

Rich previews upcoming guests Kurt Warner and Joe Manganiello with highlights of their work.

“First pitch home run, Fernando Tatis Jr.”

Kurt Warner's Upcoming London Games

1:56 to 4:00

Rich discusses Kurt Warner's role in calling the London games and his Iowa Hawkeyes helmet bet.

“Joe Manganiello will join us in hour number three.”

Baseball Playoff Reactions

4:00 to 4:48

Rich transitions to discussing the MLB playoffs and the standout moments from the games.

“Hey, the Bruins beat the Rangers last night.”

Phillies vs Braves Game Highlights

4:48 to 5:10

Detailed breakdown of the thrilling moments in the Phillies and Braves playoff game.

“And the best game of the day started it all off.”

Padres vs Cubs Recap

5:10 to 8:49

Rich covers the Padres' decisive win over the Cubs in the playoffs.

“And that's when he turns to his all-star closer.”

Papal Support for the White Sox

8:49 to 12:20

Discussion on the White Sox receiving a letter of support from the Pope and its implications.

“I don't know how many people had on their bingo cards.”

Yankees vs Red Sox Rivalry

12:20 to 14:00

Rich delves into the historic rivalry between the Yankees and Red Sox as the playoffs unfold.

“And it's a blood sport when the Yankees and the Red Sox play one another.”

Yankees Postseason Performance Analysis

14:00 to 18:17

Discussion on the Yankees' performance in the postseason and key player contributions.

“Normally, Yankees have to spend$350 million on somebody else to come to their team to do this sort of work.”

Yankees Postseason Performance Analysis

18:23 to 20:04

Discussion on the Yankees' performance in the postseason and key player contributions.

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Kurt Warner on Drake Maye and Eagles Offense

20:04 to 28:05

Kurt Warner discusses Drake Maye's confidence issues and the current state of the Eagles' offense.

“Wednesday spot here on the Rich Eisen show on Disney plus and the ESPN app.”

Analyzing the Eagles' Struggles

28:05 to 28:51

Discussing the consistency issues faced by the talented Eagles team.

“They can't get their direction down and that consistency down with all the talent they've got.”

JJ McCarthy Trade Insights

28:51 to 31:30

Kurt Warner shares insights on the JJ McCarthy trade and its implications.

“or do you think they just saw what they needed to see Adam McCarthy having him in the system for one healthy year enough to basically say this just is – it's done?”

The Development of Young Quarterbacks

31:30 to 32:58

The conversation revolves around the challenges of developing young quarterbacks in the NFL.

“And we talked about it because we covered a game, you know, when he was going through his issues and starting and then being benched because he wasn't living up to the expectations.”

Giants' Quarterback Situation

32:58 to 35:59

Discussing the Giants' decision regarding their quarterback room and implications.

“So now what happens with the Giants, Kurt, right?”

Dak Prescott's Decision-Making

35:59 to 39:40

Analyzing Dak Prescott's decision-making in critical game situations.

“Man, letting quarterbacks compete like it's any other position.”

Highlighting Quarterback Performances

39:40 to 41:42

Kurt Warner evaluates standout quarterback performances from the past week.

“Warner Wednesday with the same question, if it warrants, and I think it does now, in studying for your QB confidential reels and videos for this week.”

Kurt Warner's Insights on NFL

42:06 to 43:14

Kurt Warner discusses the unexpected performance of a football team and his upcoming broadcasts.

“That was a huge difference maker on Sunday that he is a game changer for that football team.”

Rich Eisen's Helmet Bet and Upcoming Segments

43:21 to 45:12

Rich Eisen shares his humorous bet involving a helmet and preps for the next hour's power rankings.

“Like if we get you to, like me with a robe on, you wouldn't do because what if a big story broke and I'm in a robe?”
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0:00Rich Eisen:Hockey on ESPN is blowing up. Hockey is back. So, what does it look like now? The kids? Hughes. Celebrini. Schaefer. That's hockey. Ovi and Crosby. That's hockey. And with access to over a thousand out-of-market games, you can watch them and the rest of the league. Holy hockey. That's more hockey to love for more fans who love it. The NHL's best on ESPN. Watch all season long on ABC, ESPN, ESPN +, and the ESPN app. This is The Rich Eisen Show. Hey, everybody. Can't get enough of The Rich Eisen Show? You're in luck. You can find us everywhere. Watch us weekdays on Disney Plus from noon to 3 Eastern.

0:43Rich Eisen:Miss the show? We've got a podcast so you can listen anytime. But here's the best part. Our YouTube channel. Subscribe at youtube.com slash richeisenshow and you'll never miss a moment. Now, on with the show. This is the Rich Eisen Show. A grand slam by Ben Rice. They've blown this baby wide open. The Rich Eisen Show. It's gonna go! First pitch home run, Fernando Tatis Jr. Today's guests. Pro Football Hall of Famer, Kurt Warner. Actor and author, Joe Manganiello. Plus, your phone calls, latest news, and more. And now, it's Rich Eisen. All right, everybody. Welcome to this edition of the Rich Eisen Show.

1:35Rich Eisen:Disney Plus, the ESPN app, ESPN Radio, Sirius XM, Channel 80, 844-204-RICH is the number to have a conversation with me today. There's a running theme to today's program. um the northern iowa's finest kurt warner will be joining us before he jets off to london to call the first of three straight london games to be seen on nfl network over the next three weeks the glorious four windows of football return to our football lives um and the colts and the commanders at 9 30 a.m eastern time on nfl network kurt warner is going to be calling in that game in the booth with Jason Kelsey and Dave Pasch on NFL Network and the ESPN app.

2:20Rich Eisen:And Kurt's going to join us. The Northern Iowa. Kurt Warner. Joe Manganiello will join us in hour number three. He's got a new book called Bloodlines. I'm holding the book up right here. It's talking about his battle with his own health. And obviously, I do believe he's got the true blood look on this book right here. Thus it's called Bloodlines. He's a diehard fan of the Pittsburgh Steelers, and they wear black and gold. Hey. And in hour number two, I'm going to pay off the bet that I made with George Kittle last week. If his Iowa Hawkeyes beat my Michigan Wolverines, which they did in the final seconds of that game, I would have to spend an entire segment of the Rich Eisen show wearing his game-worn helmet that he said he would send me.

3:14Rich Eisen:And if you missed the end of yesterday's program in which we revealed that the package has arrived, here it is, holding it in my hand. It is George Kittle's helmet in the middle of this program. I'm going to put it on and have to talk about the greatness of the Iowa Hawkeyes football program. I'm being honest. Kind of hoped that this would be something about the Atlanta Hawks, but that's just, you know, ripped straight from the other headlines. It's Hawkeyes and I've got the helmet and I'm going to have to wear it later. And I'll be straight up. Not happy about it. Yep. Well, I mean, you made the bet.

3:56Rich Eisen:Not happy about it. But I'm a man of my word. And later on, I will wear it. And you could call in if you wish. Let's talk Iowa Hawkeyes football. Everybody. Don't lose that intensity, right? Same intensity. How are you, Chris Brockman? Good to see you over there. You know, it's fine. It's Celtic season? Or Bruins season? Hey, the Bruins beat the Rangers last night. How about that? Mike Del Tufo, what's up? We're not going to talk about the Field of Dreams in Iowa? Good to see you over there. TJ Jefferson, what's going on, pal? I mean, I hear baseball still happening. Baseball. I see LeBron in a Sixers jersey, so that's just all on me.

4:34Rich Eisen:Or a helicopter. He quickly left town, yeah. Going back and forth. I do not like that at all. There he is. I don't like that, man. All right. Let's talk baseball playoffs, everybody. Oh, yeah. Quadruple header yesterday. And the best game of the day started it all off. Yep. Phillies and the Braves have at it. And Don Mattingly is the interim manager. And he's down 2-1. And JT Riomuto comes up with a two-run triple. in the seventh to give him a lead. And that's when he turns to his all-star closer. In the seventh inning. And Duran Duran got out there. Duran Duran. This is planet Earth. And in the eighth inning, his second inning of work.

5:33Rich Eisen:Because when you bring your closer in early, it's because you identify a certain part of the lineup that needs closer attention. I know Philadelphia Phillies fans, you might think I'm caping for my favorite baseball player of all time. Perhaps, perhaps you're also pointing out Duran didn't come up with a double inning save situation all year. And you're asking your closer to do something in the playoffs. He is not done. You look at his game log. It's all one inning of work. Second inning of work, base hit for Michael Harris. Ozzie Albies hit by a pitch. And if you're a Philly fan, you know once Albies got hit by the pitch.

6:18Rich Eisen:It doesn't matter if Austin Riley's having a disastrous regular season compared to his usual. Doesn't matter that he has only 19 home runs on the season and Durant had only given up two home runs in 61 innings of work all regular season long. You know what's coming. It's like literally the horror movie. The calls are coming from within the house. Three-run Jack. Game one goes to Atlanta. And it was an electrifying game. It's an electrifying game. The seventh and eighth innings in just particular. That was the crucible. You know, a catcher coming up with a two-run triple to give a team a lead. And then the next inning, a three-run Jack to wrap up game one.

7:03Rich Eisen:And then the way it all ended last night as well, just down the road in San Diego. You also know what that stands for, but we don't mention that here.

7:16Rich Eisen:And Pete Kerr Armstrong and the Chicago Cubs, the best offense in Major League Baseball, taking on the Padres. And Michael King gets PCA MVP on three pitches to start the game. struck out two of the first three Cubs he faced and then Fernando Tatis who we had been waiting half a season to hit a home run leads off with one go figure you know go figure baseball man how long were we saying when is Tatis going to hit a home run I mean it was end of May right you could say the the home run that Tatis was most closely associated with all regular season long was the one that he stole from the Mets. Made it seem like he didn't catch it until he just revealed it.

8:07Rich Eisen:And then he homers to start this game. That's all Michael King needed because he took a no-hitter into the seventh. Nico Horner hit one down the third baseline. And Manny Machado, who also homered in the first inning, normally you can see him. I mean, he'll usually make a play where he's going towards the third base coach's box and he makes a throw all the way across the diamond like he's five feet away from first base. He just couldn't come up with this one. And that's the way the no-hitter ended after six and a third. And then Joe Musgrove, who hasn't pitched in two years, finishes the game for the Padres, who win 8-0.

8:49Rich Eisen:Can't make that up either. I don't know how many people had on their bingo cards. at any point in their lives that a team would make the playoffs and go in with some momentum from Vatican City. I don't think we've ever heard that before. Chicago, we've heard about Second City. Right. Yes. Okay. But now we're talking about Vatican City because the Pope has got his eyes on the White Sox. Pope Leo XIV for those scoring at home in Roman numerals sent a letter of support with the papal seal I mean come on now official official it's official and sure enough I'll be honest going into Houston for a playoff baseball game as a Yankee fan, kind of wish the Pope at the time was on the Yankee side because that's sometimes what you need to get through against the Astros in the playoffs.

9:54Rich Eisen:Pope Leo is a Chicagoan. Yeah, the Pope of Grand of Georgia. We have seen, yeah, that didn't work out. That didn't work out for the Yankees. That's not the real Pope. This is the real Pope. This is the real Pope. And this one used to go to White Sox games. And I don't know, we were talking about, is there a papal man cave? Right, papal man cave. Was he streaming Peacock there in Vatican City somewhere? You know, I have been to Vatican City. Never saw... They didn't have a watch party? Never saw a flat screen. St. Peter's Basilica? I saw beautiful things on the ceiling. At any rate, this game, Colson Montgomery, who led the league and had a record number of strikeouts all season long.

10:51Rich Eisen:No contacts for this guy. He makes contact in homers. And Sam Antonacci, who Cooper loved from our buddy Vinny Pasquantino's Team Italy in the World Baseball Classic, he comes up with two runs batted in. and the White Sox, who haven't made the postseason since 2021, they are up. They are up. Astros made a run of it. They brought a time run to the plate. They did. Eighth inning. Yeah, it got a little hairy. Here we go again. Because I was watching that just before the Yankees and Red Sox went at it. But Will Venable, after the game, has a win in his back pocket and some wind at his back from Vatican City.

11:37And I was wondering, did you see that your team got a letter of support from the Pope? I did not see that. Okay, well, he sent a letter of support for the team before the playoffs. What does it mean to you to continually have his support? And obviously, you're the only MLB team that got that kind of, you know, support from him. Yeah, we'll take it. You know, I think that's been the cool thing about this season is all the support that we're getting, certainly in Chicago and beyond, and the Pope having our back and supporting us means a lot.

12:04Rich Eisen:The Pope has our back, says a manager in sports. Love it. How did you not see that, though, before the game? How does someone not? Yeah, someone didn't just show you that? I don't know. He's locked in. Locked in. Good story. There's one game here on this program.

12:29And it's a blood sport when the Yankees and the Red Sox play one another.

12:35Rich Eisen:as they only should later in rounds in the playoffs, but it's second straight wildcard year in which the Red Sox have to go to Yankee Stadium. And last year, they went to Yankee Stadium and took game one. And as a matter of fact, the fact is the Yankees come back and they took that series. They're the only team in the history of this new wildcard format for a few years to have lost game one and come back and won the series. So all the game one winners I just mentioned. Congrats, you're moving on. It's what it looks like. It's what it looks like. And last year in game three, they faced Cam Schlittler.

13:18Rich Eisen:You got Walpole, Mass native, who took care of business with eight shutout and 10 strikeouts. Strikeouts in game three of last year and then last night after a surefire Cy Young season. Pitched into the seventh, sixth and the third, ten strikeouts for Schlittler. No runs, two hits, one walk. That's what a Cy Young does. And to have this kid just dropped out of the baseball god sky on the Yankees is truly remarkable. I can't believe it. Normally, Yankees have to spend$350 million on somebody else to come to their team to do this sort of work. I'm glad you acknowledge that. Or at least it hasn't been that case since like Pettit, you know, of the of the Tory years.

14:16Rich Eisen:you know, Rivera of the tour years to be homegrown and then deliver. And in the history of major league baseball, there's only two pitchers who have had multiple post-season starts against the Red Sox with 10 or more strikeouts. Only two of them. Cam Schlittler is one and the other is Bob Gibson. Oh, that's a fact. And then in support of the kid from Walpole, Mass, is a kid from Cohasset. Another homegrown kid in Ben Rice. Who homers, leading to an all-caps expletive-laden text from Chris Brockman on a text chain you dropped out of, so you didn't see it. Thank you, TJ. I'm just giving you the news.

15:09Rich Eisen:Yeah, I mean, I... Because I have no idea why Chad Tracy took Toley out of the game just to bring in his left-handed reliever, Miller, who they picked up. I guess Miller throws the type of pitch that Rice has difficulty handling, and the pitch that Toley throws at the top of the zone is a pitch that Rice can't handle, as he did with a double in his first at-bat. But the problem is Miller didn't throw the pitch. Yeah, didn't throw the sinker. And I get lefty-lefty, You know, and, you know, Tolley was not on empty, but he was, you know, we were near an empty. And you're brought in to throw a sinker to a guy who crushes high fastballs.

15:53Rich Eisen:You throw a high fastball, you don't run. Game over. There were some decisions that Tracy made last night that I'll be straight up with you. I know Alex Cora, this team was better without Alex Cora this year, clearly. But that's, you know. But Alex Cora usually had, you know, would have the Yankees in a blender. Instead, the Yankees had Tracy in a blender last night. But that's what happened. The offense in September has been pretty rough, and so once it got to 2-0, that was a ballgame. And this is the reason why I'm so excited, and I just can't hide it, about the Yankees, is because last night's game, Schlittler, Rice, George Lombard Jr.

16:36Rich Eisen:in his first career playoff game, three for four with two runs scored. Spencer Jones got a hit. Austin Wells, who's been a two-hit maven all September long, came up with a massive one to start the scoring, right? And Rice hit a home run to give them an extra run lead. And then the grand slam to put it out of reach. All of them are homegrown. So maybe the green shoots are showing. Rice came out with a performance that everybody had been hoping, straight up, that Aaron Judge would come up with in the playoffs. He's out. Rice is doing that sort of work and had this to say afterwards. Yeah, it's a long season.

17:22I mean, I think you can find success by just being consistent every day. So, you know, we get to the postseason here. All the consistency that you had in the regular season, you just got to carry it right over into the postseason. So, you know, approach it like any other game and do the things that helped you over 162.

17:44Rich Eisen:Yep, his six RBIs tied a Yankee postseason record for a single-game performance right there. Wow, six. That's Ben Rice, and they did it without the Pope. Go figure that. Whether it's a pumpkin spice coffee that goes splat on your seat or a pumpkin patch hayride that covers your trunk in hay, you're going to want weather tech in your vehicle whether you call it fall or autumn or you're one of those spooky season people whether the mess is your fault the kid's fault the dog's fault or just the weather's fault you're gonna want weather tech for american-made floor liners and a cargo liner that laugh in the face of fall weather visit weathertech.com today my power ranking still to come as well but right around the corner is kurt warner here on the show the rich isa show podcast.

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20:26Rich Eisen:We were talking about a crisis of confidence for this kid who had nothing but all the reason to feel confident last year. And then we saw this performance in Jacksonville. What is going on with him that you're seeing, Kurt? It is such an interesting thing because obviously none of us know what's going on in Drake's mind. And, you know, you hear all the time people talking about, you know, a lot of people use the yips or we've seen guys in baseball that all of a sudden can't make a throw from second base to first base. And you just sit there and shake your head because you just don't understand how that can be possible.

21:03You know, these guys that have done certain things their entire life. You mentioned it, Drake May, so great all last year, runner up to the MVP. Many felt he should have been the MVP. And now it's gone so sideways so quickly. And it really looks like he has lost his confidence, that he is second-guessing everything that's happening on the football field. What I loved about him last year was he didn't second-guess. He was throwing the ball down the field. He was ripping the ball. When he didn't see it, he would take off and run. But he was very definitive in what he was doing. And right now, I feel it's exactly the opposite, that he's looking at things, and they're open, and they're there, and he just won't let it fly.

21:42He just won't let it rip. And we've even talked on our show, even some of the throws that he's made that I think were right decisions. He's not throwing it with authority. It's almost like, I don't want to miss. Am I making the right decision? And he's trying to set the ball in there. And every time he does that, it's going the wrong direction. And the defense is making a play on it. And, you know, and the question that's left up, you know, to Mike Vrabel and everybody there, Josh McDaniels, is how do we get it back? What do we do with this kid to get it back? I thought it was interesting, you know, Mooch talking on our show when we were having this conversation saying he would have some practices where he would tell the quarterbacks, you cannot check it down.

22:22You have got to attack and throw the ball down the field and see what throws you can make. And I wonder if, you know, a plan, something like that with New England, like, hey, quit checking it down. Quit being conservative. What makes you great is the aggressiveness. We've got a defense that will back you up. We have to get back to playing that brand of football. But that's sure what it looks like right now, not being in Drake's head, is that he's just lost his confidence to really attack and believe what he's saying. You know, when my son EJ was always playing and he goes through moments too where he's like, yeah, I just, you know, I'm not feeling it right now.

22:56And I said, you go back to trusting what you always know. Trust your eyes. When your eyes tell you something, then rip the football. And whatever happens, happens. But you know that your eyes and how good you are at taking in information and processing it, that that's how you have to play. And I believe that's what Drake's got to do right now is trust your eyes. When you see it, you rip it. And if it's a bad play, you line up the next time and you do it again.

23:19Rich Eisen:That's the hair on fire at the top of the Amtrak-Acella line. Let's go down to the midway point of it in Philadelphia. And you saw the Eagles up close and personal on Monday Night Football. What do you make of the offense right now through three weeks? It didn't look the same in week three as it was beginning to potentially ascend and pieces put together through the first two weeks. Yeah, it's just not flowing all the way around. And they had moments, I mean, when they got the Bears out on downs and then drove the ball 97 yards. They're running the football. They're making plays, throwing it. Their next drive was really good, and they put seven on the board.

24:00And so they had two drives that it just looked like it has looked, you know, a couple years ago in Philly. And you're like, OK, maybe they found something, but they just can't sustain it up front. I think their passing game is different than it's been. You know, I took a lot of grief yesterday on GMFB when I was talking about, you know, what I think they're missing in the passing game. Obviously, it starts with running the football and doing that. That's what Philadelphia is built on. But what they're missing in the passing game. And I mentioned missing a guy like A.J. Brown. And that doesn't mean that their players aren't good.

24:32Devontae Smith is a really good wide receiver in the National Football League. But something that always makes the game easier for any quarterback is to have what we call an X receiver. That guy that you can put on one side of the field, you put the other three receivers on the other side, you give them a full field concept, but you have that one guy on the backside that you say, hey, if they ever give us one-on-one, think of Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase. Every time Jamar Chase gets one-on-one, Joe Burrow seems to throw it to him. He's like, I got my guy over here, and it makes the game easier, even on really good quarterbacks, even for really good quarterbacks.

25:06If you watch the Raiders last week, they got Brock Bowers back. That's what they did with Brock Bowers. They put him out on one side by himself and say, I don't care who covers him. Cornerback, safety, linebacker, we're going to go to that guy, and he's going to make a play, and it makes the game so much easier. And so I know there were issues with A.J. Brown in the locker room and big picture-wise, but he gave them that dynamic that they don't really have right now. Devontae Smith, they like to leave him inside more in tight splits and not in those one-on-one situations. Montevion Wicks has been great for him, but just not quite to that level, in my opinion, at least yet in his career.

25:42And that, to me, is something that can take a lot of pressure off an offense when you can say, hey, load the box for Saquon Barkley. I got a one-on-one guy out there that I can take advantage of every single time. And they've had that the past few years. They could always fall back on that. And it's something to me that they aren't really falling back on or can't really fall back on right now based on the way that they're playing football. And now it's causing to me a lot of issues in their passing game. Sometimes it looks good, but then there's just not a lot of continuity right now.

26:11Rich Eisen:Well, maybe I should ask you this question in a couple of weeks after you have meetings with the Eagles in advance of the week five Sunday starter on NFL Network when the Eagles and Jaguars play each other in a terrific game of the Doug Peterson Bowl, if you will. But that said, I'll ask you the question I get from all my Eagles friends and fans of the show here. How, you know, should they be nervous about what they're seeing? Is this another moment where we're going to have another season wondering what's Sirianni's role in all this? What's Hurts' role in all this? Did they get the right coordinator?

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26:45Are we in that same barrel right now, Kurt? I think you should be a little bit worried because I still look at the team and I say they're talented enough. to be better than this you know they've they're two and one they came in undefeated but it was a close win against Washington they had to come back to get the win against Tennessee and then obviously what we saw last night that again to me as a team what you're looking for is yes we have talent now I just want to see continuity I want to see us be able to do something really well a couple years ago obviously was running the football the thing that I know Jalen Hurts is going to win a lot of games for this football team he is going to make some plays they've got some great playmakers There's Devontae Smith, Dallas Goddard when he comes back, Saquon Barkley, the guys that they've got on defense.

27:29Like they have a talented team, so they're going to be in the mix. But the biggest thing is when you have a team that's talented, you want to believe that you're going to compete for a championship. And that to me is the worry in Philly is just that why can't we put this together? Why can't we, you know, run the football again? Because, again, we saw a couple drives last night where it looked picture perfect. I mean, huge holes for Saquon Barkley. why can't we sustain that why can't we do that week in and week out and that to me would have me worried whether I'm on the team or just a fan because it's been going on now for a period of time you know we talked about the Dallas Cowboys last week how how do they continue to change coordinators and change personnel yet they still look the same on the field in terms of how they play and I feel kind of like that with with Philly is that they've got all this talent it's the same talent they had when they were going really good, why does it continue to go sideways for this football team?

28:26They can't get their direction down and that consistency down with all the talent they've got.

28:32Rich Eisen:Kurt Warner here on the Rich Eisen Show. A two-part question here involving the J.J. McCarthy trade from the Vikings to the Giants. Did they see enough, you think, from Kyler Murray to figure out we can trade away our depth or do you think they just saw what they needed to see Adam McCarthy having him in the system for one healthy year enough to basically say this just is – it's done? I believe it's the latter there. Just with Kyler Murray, I don't know if you've seen enough yet. I mean, really just the one game, and I don't think he necessarily played great against the Bucs even though they got the win.

29:16I think it's the latter. I think we've tried it. It hasn't worked. You wonder also just with all the talk and everything that's said, how that affects a locker room and all of the things of can we go back there at some point when he goes from a starter to the third string guy? Can we ever go back there? And I believe Minnesota just kind of said, hey, probably best for everybody to just cut our ties. Let JJ go somewhere else and have a new start and for us to try to figure out what our future is going to look like. and so I believe that's more of the scenario in Minnesota really I mean because again two weeks

29:51Rich Eisen:ago Kurt two games ago he was the backup and if Wentz gets you know knocked around he gets blue tented as we see is happening in most games somebody's going in there are many games he would have been the guy he would have been in there in Chicago you know where he had his first career win on a Monday night you called that game you watched the fourth quarter all of a sudden was like Tebow time in a way, you know? But so you're not surprised that they're willing to just like cut their losses so fast, I guess, in a way, even though he was there for a year, healthy. In this day and age, I'm not surprised that it goes this fast.

30:33I wish it didn't. You know, bottom line for me when I watched JJ play, and even when he was coming out of Michigan, you know, I talked about it. I didn't think he was ready to carry a team. He hadn't been in that situation. He had things to work on mechanically coming out of college. All the things that you say, this guy's not ready to be an NFL starter. He starts, he shows a lot of those deficiencies were still there and that he needs to learn. But he's a very young guy. And that to me is always a surprising part is that, hey, you don't have your quarterback of the future. I know maybe he hasn't been what you wanted him to be up to this point, but that doesn't mean it can't click.

31:12He can't get to the point in an offseason where all of a sudden it comes together and he becomes the guy that you thought he was when you drafted him so high. So that's always a surprising thing to me is how quickly we will give up on guys, especially, you know. And again, I think a great example is Bryce Young. Bryce Young was this guy. And we talked about it because we covered a game, you know, when he was going through his issues and starting and then being benched because he wasn't living up to the expectations. And now you watch Bryce play and it's just it's a steady ascension. He just gets better and better every year, every week.

31:47He's doing things that you saw on tape in college that made him the number one overall pick. And you're seeing it now. And he talked to us about, hey, I needed to step away from the expectations a little bit. And I needed to watch a guy like Andy Dalton do it and see how he prepares. And all of those things just helped me. So when I got inserted back in there, I was looking at everything from a different lens and we've seen it work. And so that's the thing that always surprises me. We get these young guys and we throw them in and we think they should be ready and they're not ready. And so now what do we do?

32:18Oh, let's maybe, you know, take some time to develop the guy and allow him a chance to grow into the position as opposed to, oh, first shot, he wasn't ready. Let's send him somewhere else. And then, you know, again, we got Sam Darnold, which is a great example of a similar type thing. He said the same thing. When I sat on the bench in San Francisco behind Brock and with Kyle, I learned so much about the game and the position that when I got inserted again in Minnesota and then in Seattle, he was ready for what it takes to be an NFL quarterback. And he's thriving now. And so that's the thing that just continues to surprise me is just how quick we are to say, hey, this guy's never going to be.

32:57And let's move on as opposed to giving them a chance to develop and learn the position.

33:03Rich Eisen:So now what happens with the Giants, Kurt, right? Because, I mean, what an interesting choice the Giants made. On one hand, you get yourself a first-round graded potentially in their minds, whether John was with the Ravens or Joe Shane, even though they went ahead and took Malik Nabors sixth overall instead of J.J. McCarthy. You get somebody at that early stages of their career for a fifth-round pick, and you can just start building your quarterback room. but they got him now because Jackson Dart got hurt. This trade wouldn't be happening. We all know if Dart had been healthy, right? So now he's there.

33:42Rich Eisen:And if he's still not quarterback, NFL quarterback starter ready, they're going to end up putting him in there at some point. One would think unless they really plan on having Jameis there all year. And then if Jameis does, you know, obviously start this week and other weeks here, how does McCarthy get the necessary reps to get up to speed walk me through how you think this plays out from getting him in the study room to maybe in the huddle Kirk I believe this was a move kind of to say yes we're making a move for this year because we need someone because Jackson Dart is out but I also believe this is one of those hey we can get this guy for a low round draft pick and there's still questions about Jackson Dart and I know he's looked good when he's played, but he's been injured a lot.

34:29And so I believe this is an opportunity for them to have two guys that were drafted really high. If these two guys are both, you know, what they were drafted to be, let them compete and figure out what's going to happen in the future. But I believe there's some concern about Jackson Dart and the injuries. And I do believe that's part of why this move was made for a young guy. Otherwise, I think like everyone else, hey, you go out and can Can you trade for, you know, a Joe Flacco or somebody just keep the seat warm, knowing that Jackson's going to be inserted? And again, I'm not saying Jackson's not going to be their starter game one next year.

35:06I'm just saying there has to be some concerns with how much he's been injured in the short term. And so getting a young guy that has a lot to, you know, to learn. But, you know, I'm sure brothers have talked and said, hey, this is what he's good at. This is what I like about him. This is his potential. So I believe that is part of why they made this move is a future move as much as it is a now or this season move, you know, to just trying to figure it out. And, you know, I always say I understand that if there's competition and two guys, oh, you know, how does that bode in a locker room? I think it's always a great thing is to have two guys, if they're both good, you know, throw the ball out there and let them compete and let them win the job and let them win the locker room.

35:49I don't think that's ever a bad thing. And now you've got two young quarterbacks that you like, that you can keep on your roster for, and again, for the short term, three, four years as you figure this thing out. And then you move from there.

36:01Rich Eisen:Man, letting quarterbacks compete like it's any other position. Marshall's rubbing off on you, huh? After all, that's a Marshall Falk thing. How many times do we hear that on game day morning? Like, what's wrong with two quarterbacks having to compete? Because running backs, wide receivers, tight ends, you know, linemen, we all do that. And especially two guys that haven't proven themselves yet. Right. We've seen more from Jackson or better from Jackson than JJ. But two guys that aren't solidified in that position. I agree. What's wrong with that? Let's let's let them go compete. Let's let them earn the job.

36:32Let's let them, like I said, earn the locker room, which is also a huge part of it. Winning the locker room and having an organization believe in you and the guys in the locker room believe in you. And so I do believe that's an aspect to this thing and see if they can help JJ to come up to speed and be a guy that can compete and play in this league for a long time.

36:50Rich Eisen:Okay, a couple more for you, Kurt, before I send you on a transatlantic flight for Sunday's game on NFL Network, 9.30 a.m. Eastern Time for when the glorious four windows of football start in week four with the Colts and Commanders on NFL Network. explain to me what happened at the end of the Rio game where it's third and goal they call up a play and Dak throws it into Argentina and after the game says yeah I was throwing it away and the coach is like I should have I overcoached him and you're not giving George Pickens a shot or even dialing something else up in the end zone walk me through how something like this happens where a coaches teaching him an 11-year veteran throw the ball away how does that happen well I mean I think the interesting thing is you always have to go back to different situations I remember I think it was a year ago where the Cardinals had you know the guy running into the end zone the running back and he drops the ball at the one yard line and what happens you know everybody around the league shows the video and says hey don't do this make sure you blah blah blah blah yeah I think back to the first game of the year you know the opening game on wednesday night drake may we talked about earlier is in a similar situation late in the game uh you know they they got an opportunity to kick a field goal to tie the game and he makes a bad decision and throws it up and it's intercepted um and they lose the game and everybody's talking about it and everybody in the world watched it and so you wonder how situations like that play out is that here's dak in a very similar situation at a similar time in the game.

38:29And I'm sure that starts to illuminate in his head. As you said, guys like Dak, been there a million times, understand the narrative like, hey, you know, here's the situation. Don't be stupid with the football. If it's not there, you know, throw the ball away. You do all those things. But, you know, it starts pounding in your head because, you know, something like that can just jump back into your head and go, oh, remember when Drake May did that? Okay, don't do it, Drake May here. Like make sure. And so I was with you. Like, I couldn't believe you didn't give him some kind of a chance, you know, on the route, throwing it high and away or whatever.

39:05But maybe there was miscommunication and he wasn't sure. So he didn't want it. But but I was really surprised that, yeah, just went into the cheap seats. Like we're not even going to give George a chance and I'm just going to throw it out there. But it seemed like something like that was going on in his mind, that he was overconscious of don't make a bad mistake. mistake. Don't make a decision where you're going to try to jam it in there and cost you the game. If it's not there, just throw it away. And he just made that decision quick and kind of flipping and threw it into the stands to live for another day.

39:33But it was an odd situation that there wasn't even really an attempt to be able to score a touchdown.

39:39Rich Eisen:All right. It's now this time of year where I finish our Warner Wednesday with the same question, if it warrants, and I think it does now, in studying for your QB confidential reels and videos for this week. Which quarterback had the best week three on film? You know, I'm going to give you a few guys that people aren't talking about. All right. I tell you what, I thought Kirk Cousins played really, really well. I thought he was definitive. The ball was coming out of his hands. He was slinging it. It looked like there was more pop in his arm than I saw, you know, in week one that had me a little bit worried.

40:12He just played really good. And I love that Fernando Mendoza gets to watch him run this offense and get through his reads and get to his checkdowns when needed or hit that back foot and get the ball out. He's playing some really good football. Case Keenum, I thought, played one of the best games of the weekend. I thought it was going to be about play action, of course, with your backup. He was 11 for 12 on play action. He was 11 for 11 against the Blitz. There were some plays where, man, it was almost free pressure coming at him. I don't even know how he recognized what was going on down the field, and he flips it up and over and puts the ball on them.

40:47I thought he played an excellent game, and those are two guys that show you. You know what you're seeing. You know how to play the game. You understand how football works. Get the ball out of your hands. Get it to your playmakers. I thought both of them played well. And then I'll give you a young guy. Tyler Shuck is playing some really, really good football. I thought this was the best game that I'd seen him play. I know they didn't win the game because of all the chaos that happened at the end of that game against the Raiders. But for a young guy in his second year, playing the way he is, is confident, seeing it, understanding all the stuff I was talking about with the veteran guys, this young man.

41:21And again, not young, I guess, for a second year guy. But this young player is playing with so much confidence and understanding of the game that I'm just I'm really, really impressed with what I'm seeing from him. You know, when all the things play out with the quarterback class from a year ago and and he's playing some really, really good football.

41:42Rich Eisen:All right. Yeah. Second year player and two 38 year old guys. How about that? So you're in the you're in the Raiders are for real camp. You saw me on Sunday that I said they were fake. As a detective, I went in and said they were fake. And so I heard it a lot from Raiders Nation. I still won't say I'm fully convinced yet, but but I'm more convinced you get Brock Bowers back. That was a huge difference maker on Sunday that he is a game changer for that football team. And and so, again, I don't know if I'm buying that. They're a contender for like a championship and stuff, but they are better than I thought they would be.

42:22And they're better than I gave them credit for a week ago. And I'm excited to see where they can go from here.

42:27Rich Eisen:Kurt safe travels. We'll chat next week from London. You from London, I'll be here. And then, of course, I'll be doing the pre and the halftime and post of the game. You were and Jason Kelsey are calling with Dave Pasch on NFL Network this coming weekend. Colts and commanders. Travel safe, my friend. All right. Thanks, buddy. Kurt Warner here on The Rich Eisen Show. The Rich Eisen Show, the podcast.

42:56Rich Eisen:Back here on The Rich Eisen Show, a SoFi person loan. It's still here to help you achieve something once thought impossible. that's overcoming high interest credit card debt. Walk the tightrope of your finances with one low fixed rate monthly payment, no fees required, and as soon as the same day funding. Pull off your own debt defying stunt with a SoFi personal loan. Visit SoFi.com slash trick to learn more. Loans originated by SoFi Bank, NA member FDIC. Terms and conditions apply. NMLS 696891, everybody. Great chat with Kurt right there, man. I mean we just covered a whole bunch of ground yeah we did my gosh can I take the next hour off or I mean meaning what you just want to I don't want to wear the helmet yeah you do do I really I mean I think you do no listen I'm all for good content here's what I want to have happen what during the segment what that you're wearing the helmet I need some serious breaking news like yeah we need something to ask a trade so I've got a so I have to do the entire segment with that on you have to do the segment with the helmet Because that's kind of like your greatest fear, right?

44:01Rich Eisen:That something big. Always is. Like if we get you to, like me with a robe on, you wouldn't do because what if a big story broke and I'm in a robe? That's why I don't like wearing the gear, like costumes on NFL game day morning. That's why that one year I was fought while Larry David for an entire show on Halloween. I was just in mortal fear that I would be dressed like fought while Larry David and have to deliver serious breaking news. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I want. You got to let that go, baby. I'd take the helmet off. I mean, why? No. What do you mean? No. No. If 10 ,000 people would watch it without a helmet on, then 100 ,000 would watch it.

44:36You know what I'm going to do? I don't do things for clicks, TJ.

44:38Rich Eisen:I'm going to text Tom and just tell him, hey, at this time, can you just break a story? I don't care what it is. I'm sure, yeah. I'm sure he has that journalistic integrity to tell you to pound sand. All right. next hour power rankings coming up and i have to pay off my bet with george kittle by wearing his iowa helmet for at least 10 minutes but the play consecutively thanks for listening to the rich eisen show podcast you can watch and listen to the rich eisen show live weekdays from noon to three eastern on espn radio disney plus and on the espn app the rich eisen show the podcast

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Rich and the guys react to the first day in the MLB Wild Card Round of the playoffs that included a dramatic late-game home from Braves 3B Austin Riley to beat the Phillies, the Padres’ 8-0 trouncing of the Cubs, the Pope blessing the White Sox prior to their Game 1 win over the Astros, and the Yankees’ 9-0 whitewash of their AL East rival Red Sox. Pro Football Hall of Famer/NFL Network Analyst Kurt Warner and Rich discuss Drake Maye’s precipitous falloff this season, what’s (still) ailing the Eagles’ offense, why the Vikings cut bait with JJ McCarthy and what the Giants’ long-term plans could be for the former 1st-rounder, if he’s coming around on the 3-0 Raiders after doubting their success earlier this season, and what the Cowboys did wrong in late in the game in their Week 3 loss to the Ravens.
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