Hour 1: Myles Garrett’s Rams Intro & Aaron Donald Intruge, plus Seahawks WR Cooper Kupp

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1:17Rich Eisen:Bless Need, this is a bad man. From the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles. The Rams started calling the Browns about Miles Garrett in 2022. Today's guests, Seahawks wide receiver Cooper Cup, Rams general manager Les Snead, actor and comedian Patton Oswalt. And now, it's Rich Eisen. Yes, it is. Welcome to this edition of the Rich Eisen Show live on a Wednesday in Los Angeles, California. Cooper Cup, Les Snead, Patton Oswalt, and you all hanging out with us today at 844-204-RICH. Give us a call. We've got time for you. It's the NBA Finals Game 1 tonight. I feel like I'm 30 years old again because I was celebrating my 30th birthday in a bar called Denial.

2:04Rich Eisen:Believe it or not, I turned 30 in denial in New York City in between games of the NBA Finals between the Spurs and the Knicks. Dr. Jack Ramsey was at my birthday party. That actually happened. I feel like I am 30 years young again. um and uh nba finals begin tonight holy crap it's going to be amazing um and uh i can't wait to talk about it again with you 844-204-RICH-NUMBER-A-DON how are you over there chris brockman what's going on great i'm looking up to see if denial is still around does it exist it doesn't be great it doesn't appear so okay great listen um i didn't think i'd start the show this way but when you turn 30 with dr jack ramsey and your uncle myron all there in the same spot you know you're living life um and that's what i did and i didn't think that the knicks would make the nba finals again against the spurs this year uh but it is happening and it's exciting and i say hello to you as well hey what's up great we are one team good to see you tj jefferson i once had matthew stafford at one of my birthday parties does that count did you really yeah no kidding huh long story listen Listen, speaking of Matthew Stafford, he once upon a time was acquired by the Rams in a big trade that everybody went, what?

3:22And the one thing we didn't listen, everybody should be as giddy as Sean McVay is right now.

3:29Rich Eisen:Everyone should just live their lives and just be as happy and as smiley as Sean McVay was yesterday. There was no Mr. Grumpy when he was standing and sitting and introducing Miles Garrett. look at him look at sean mcveigh it's almost like the opposite of the ty simpson press it's a dude there was no mr grumpy actually didn't once upon a time miles garrett referred to himself as grumpy you know like he's a grumpy guy but i mean he's not in cleveland anymore with all due respect um he's now with a team that had odds to win the super bowl better than most before they acquired him and now they're the prohibitive favorites to win the Super Bowl.

4:11Rich Eisen:Wait for it in SoFi Stadium just up the road from here in Los Angeles, California, just like they did after they acquired Matthew Stafford. Here we are again. Here we are again.

4:25Rich Eisen:It's just tough to believe that the Browns did it and the Rams were the ones to basically get them to do it because they're the ones who said here's the young Turk and Jared Verse along with a 1, 2, and 3 over the next three years which is an excellent package for a team like Cleveland that is chock full of terrific young players who can now all grow up together with Todd Monk and being their dad, I guess. Got the dad jokes. Dad jokes, everybody. Hey, Miles, what Garrett are we talking about? as if there's other guys. Miles? Well, there was a face-to-face meeting in Rams country between everyone there.

5:17Rich Eisen:There was a face-to-face meeting between the coach and Miles Garrett here. And he waved his no-trade clause to do it. Shocker. You don't say. Here, let's play this out. Hold on. Wait, wait, wait. Let's play this out here. So you're Miles Garrett. Oh, no, you're Andrew Perry. Oh, great. Of the Cleveland Browns here. Okay, great. And I'm Miles Garrett, and you're asking me about waiving my no trade clause. Hey, Miles, good to see you. Good to see you too. Unfortunately, we've got to do a move. We're going to be trading you. Don't tell me who you are. Just tell me. Would you be willing to waive your no trade clause?

6:03Rich Eisen:Well, who am I being traded to? We're going to send you to the Rams. Are you sure? Yes. Where's the pen? Do you have a pen? Are you sure? All right, hit it. Since the very beginning, it's always been about winning. And, you know, it just breaks down to, you know, the timing of everything. You know, what does it realistically look like for, you know, to be a winner now And to have an opportunity to do that immediately, that was an opportunity that was just too difficult to pass up. And I always have loved my heart for Cleveland City, the community, all its players and everything else. But the opportunity to come here and have an immediate and profound impact on this team, it was something I just had to move forward with.

6:58Rich Eisen:Oh, yeah, he's going to have a profound impact, all right.

7:04Rich Eisen:And he's going to have situations where he's being asked to protect leads week in, week out. When was the last time that happened for him, with consistency? They did make the playoffs a couple years ago with Joe Flacco as their quarterback. And then they go into Houston, and that was a one-and-done situation. They won a playoff game. They beat Pittsburgh. That's true. So very rarely is he just like, hey, just like the last three weeks, come on in and wrap this thing up for us, will you, Miles? You know, the video of Caleb Williams fading back to Indiana to launch a you-can't-believe-this type touchdown to push overtime in the NFC Divisional game, for instance.

7:56Rich Eisen:What if Miles Garrett's the one trying to track him down? Will he be able to fade back that far? Miles was asked about playing in situations where he's late in the game with a lead, with consistency, and whether he feels that might lead to actually wait for it. More sacks. I mean, that did play into the decision as well. Knowing I have the ability, no late game, to pin my ears back, not just because we need a play to be made, but because we have the lead, and it's obvious passing downs, being able to make those game-changing plays to win the game for us. Those are things that appeal to me, I'm sure, appeal to all of us as D linemen.

8:40So that is something I really do for.

8:43Rich Eisen:Yeah, what about leaving Cleveland, though? I'm sorry I didn't mean to laugh but it's played out like I said he's just had the greatest arguably season single season of any defensive player ever in the history of the league most sacks unanimous defensive player of the year and his Cleveland Browns team chose sixth overall leaving Cleveland. Hit it. No, definitely have to sleep on it. I don't take my time in Cleveland for granted. I did love being there. My family had become really a part of the community. You definitely had to start to plant roots, had to home and just becoming friends with all the people in your neighborhood and getting to know people and getting out and just feeling like this is your second home.

9:40Stuff like that, it tears at you to leave and to break away, but that's just part of the things you learn to have to adjust to as you grow up and learn you have to move on. I'm wondering if Miles even knows that the Rams originated in Cleveland.

10:06Rich Eisen:1936 is when they were founded. They won the 1945 NFL championship game, by the way. Browns were born. I don't think he did. How many people even knew that? I don't know why I wanted to go history lesson there. I did not. There you go. Yeah. So, he's got a chance now to grow in Los Angeles, he says. Hit it. I see a a position to solidify myself here as well among the very greats. I still have plenty of great years in front of me, and being able to cement that legacy not only as a football city here in L.A., but as an individual winning DPOI and a Super Bowl or more, those things are definitely pressing on my mind.

11:00And, you know, I have definitely a bit of urgency to do it and do it right away.

11:05Rich Eisen:So my son, Cooper, who thinks I'm a passionate Rams fan, accuses me of that all the time. 15-year-old young man, still very impressionable.

11:15Rich Eisen:He said to me, and the reason why I'm going all in on this for many reasons, is he said to me, Dad, is Miles Garrett the greatest player in the NFL to be traded ever? yes and i'm like uncle marshall who he's referred to in this house many times marshall falk he got traded eric dickerson got traded those guys weren't at that level yet to make that case farve got traded steve young got traded but a guy who's like not in his ninth year clearly first battle hall of famer coming off of the greatest season arguably of any defensive player, certainly for anybody who's a pass rusher, did the Rams just pull off the trade involving the greatest player in the history of the NFL to ever be traded?

12:17Rich Eisen:Others were free agents, let go. Did that just happen? I mean, Favre was traded at the end of his career. You're talking about a trade of a player. in his prime. Eric Dickerson, man. Peak of his powers. Eric Dickerson. Peak of his powers. Went from the Rams to the Colts in 1987 and 84. He set the single season record with 2 ,105 yards. He won Offensive Player of the Year in 86. And then there was a contract dispute. He got traded to the Colts in Halloween of 87. So that was a trade deadline deal? Yes, indeed. Hmm. What was the haul back? Three firsts. Which is why people in Cleveland are like, we didn't get, it's different times.

13:06Rich Eisen:Totally different times. But you got Jared Verse back. By the way, you're going to love. There'll be lots of Verse jerseys in the dog pound, for instance. McCaffrey got traded. Randy Moss got traded. Randy was just like apparently wasting away in Raiderville. And there was some thoughts that he was on his last legs. Yeah, he had not been good. Is Miles Garrett the greatest player to ever be traded in the history of the NFL? And did the Rams already, with a team that almost made the Super Bowl, five minutes from making the Super Bowl last year, with the MVP quarterback, who they also acquired in a shocker trade a few years ago, is he the greatest player to be traded ever?

13:55Rich Eisen:and I turn to Cooper and I'm like, he very damn well could be. Sure, why not? Yeah. He's going to be the all-time sack leader when he retires. Yeah, he definitely is. We're talking about one of the handful of greatest pass rushers we've ever seen. At age 30, being acquired with years left on a contract and him saying, I've still got more years to go and a chip on his shoulder wanting to win multiple chips. Unreal. So when he strolls in and he's like his number 95 from Punta Ford, he gets it. But the question is, how much did it cost him? This was a fun exchange. It was just a conversation. It didn't take too much.

14:44A conversation in a couple bucks? Maybe more than a couple, but he was open to it and I understood that There have been some other numbered trades before me, so I base my decision off of that. But, no, he understood, and I'm glad to be sticking with 95.

15:04Rich Eisen:Sean is out of his mind. Les is still playing poker. Les doesn't stop playing poker. Sean McVay has kids and has won a Super Bowl. Yes. Beautiful wife as well. Do you think yesterday was the greatest day of his life? Looked like it. I don't think I've ever seen him happier. It's crazy. He had to compose himself for a second there. I mean, well, actually, wait a minute. If you're saying anything football related would become the best day of his life. The best day of his life might be then if Aaron Donald says, I want to come back to play. Well, I think that's how we need to. Hey, pal, you were upset that this was brought up.

15:43Rich Eisen:I wanted to save it for overreaction. For overreaction Monday, but we pushed overreaction Monday because of this moment. Yeah, and then everyone kind of started talking about it. but um so yeah i think we all need to prepare it's now becoming more and more possible because he hasn't shot it down when it's been asked of him by various media folk exactly now and if he comes back now this trade becomes a jared verse a first a second and a third for aaron donald and miles garrett yeah that's now what's spark Aaron donald otherwise is just like going about his life so two of the i don't know a dozen greatest defensive players ever are now back on the same team well not yet um and but it's real enough to ask the question of sean mcvay in the press conference on tuesday here's what i would tell you guys overall too is um you know aaron's a guy that i stay really close in touch with and i know the respect that he has for miles talk to him about the opportunity to be able to bring him on board um if aaron decides he wants to dust him off at the age of 35, I bet you he could still do it at a pretty high clip.

16:54Rich Eisen:I mean, I think. Now, how does it work? How does it work? Who has to call whom? Do the Rams call and get a heat check? Do they send a trusted player and teammate to go get that heat check? Or is it just McVay just calling up and saying, hey, man? Or is it less? because that's one way to generally manage the situation. More is more, people. More is more in the NFL. There's no such thing as less is more. More is more, unless the less is Sneed. More is more. That's why we're seeing another Avengers movie coming out this fall. You know? There's not enough Avengers in the Avengers Doomsday movie. Spider-Man in like a month.

17:46Rich Eisen:Not enough. More is more. Let's get them all. Let's get them all. Now while we got the muscle, that's what the NFL is all about. Full Frank Pantangeli from Godfather Part 2. Let's get them all. Let's hit them all now while we got the muscle. That's what Les Snead is bringing to the Rams. That's what Miles Garrett brings to the Rams. And if Aaron Donald can do it, you do it. What do you want, Aaron? with all due respect to the guys who he would be playing and taking playing time from. But Les is the guy who's basically saying to everyone in the Rams, make room for more because we're not satisfied.

18:41Rich Eisen:That's why they kicked more than just a tire on A.J. Brown. They would have been able to – Devontae Adams is a future Hall of Famer. They would have traded. They would have had to have done that. Yeah. But instead, Adams is probably just looking in the mirror going, I am very glad that fell apart. Because he's here, and so is Miles Garrett, arguably the best player that's ever been traded in the history of the National Football League. You could make the argument. We just talked about it at length. What does Cooper Cup think about it? How did that land in the Seattle Seahawks? locker room he's next then less need will join us at the top of the next hour and then pat oswald will stroll into our studio in between i've got a top um i've got my power rankings oh of the um most influential figures of the nba finals nice notice the way i parsed that i didn't say players most influential figures figures of the nba finals let's do it here we go no contest wrestling later on maybe generalissimo o'shea jackson jr will join us in time cooper cup is next this is the rich eisen show the rich eisen show podcast

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22:21Rich Eisen:Here on the Rich Eisen Show, 844-204-RICH is the number to dial here on the program. He is a two-time Super Bowl champ. and he is kind enough to join us here early june from the home of the super bowl champs in seattle ladies and gentlemen wide receiver cooper cup is here on the program how you doing cooper i'm very good thank you for having me dude what's life like for you first week of june here what do we got what's it like oh it's it's fantastic i mean the weather up here is amazing i mean you know the qb room here the qbs just have a monopoly on the best room in house they're looking over the lake.

22:58There's eagles flying around outside. It's just... What? Oh, yeah. We're on Hard Knocks this year, and I'm sure there'll be a whole segment on the real estate of the QB room.

23:10Rich Eisen:I've been to the beautiful facility there, but I've never been in the QB room. So, what do you mean? Is the wide receiver on a window? There's no windows? What do you got? The one whole wall of the QB room looks out over the lake. Like, it's amazing looking out over Mercer Island. You got the Eagles flying around out there. You got the 12 flag flag, both flag playing out there. It's just a fantastic, I mean, it's a fantastic place to come to work. So when you say the Eagles, like Jalen Hurts is out there? Is that what you're saying? No, yeah. I mean, in the trees. You got Canoos? Hurts up there.

23:47Okay. Yeah. I mean, Brown was there. He wasn't there today, but you got guys. Yeah, all kinds of.

23:54Rich Eisen:So AJ Brown was there on Monday and now he's just not there anymore. That's pretty weird. Well, that's wild. And I do love this time of year because obviously it's a little bit of a chillax, but you're beginning to ramp it up, right? And you know this is going to be the conversation, certainly in places like mine, is how do the Seahawks run it back? That's going to be the conversation. So how do we answer such a question, Cooper Cupp? Yeah, well, I think, you know, I've got the luxury of having gone through, you know, what this offseason was, right? I mean, you go through and you reach the mountaintop, you achieve your goals, and then you go through an offseason, you come back here, and everyone wants to talk about what happened the year before.

24:44But it's just, it's all about moving forward. I mean, just like any other year, you got to learn from the things that happened the year before. And regardless of how good the season went, there's so much to improve on, so much to fix, so many things that were left on the table. And you have to continually improve. It's just the way that's why the NFL is is the way it is. Is that why the NFL is, you know, when my opinion, the best sports league in the world is because things just keep moving forward. Teams keep adapting. There's no stagnancy. If you're stagnant for a moment, you're going to get passed up.

25:13And so going through that's all about moving forward. It's all about looking ahead, improving on the processes that we had established last year, taking those and reestablishing them, building them, refining them, and competing. You come out here and OTAs and men, we're competing. We're using all the time. I mean, the PA is on us about the times. We're going to be fulfilling every minute that is available. We're going to be competing against each other. We're going to be challenging each other. And we've been doing that up to this point. It's been really fun being up here for this OTAs. and guys are chomping at the bit to get back to work.