In short
NFL training-camp and quarterback updates, focusing on the Vikings’ settled QB situation and other camp competitions; plus broader NFL contract/health notes and preseason schedule chatter.
Guests (backgrounds)
- Ian Rapoport: NFL Network insider/reporter covering teams and transactions.
- Thurman Thomas: Pro Football Hall of Famer (Bills legend).
- Carolina Weidra: Emmy-nominated actor (from Pluribus).
- (Also referenced: Rich Eisen hosts; other callers/crew.)
Key claims
- Vikings ended their QB competition: Kyler Murray is the best option and was signed as the starter; decision made to give him full reps and move forward.
- Kyler’s contract is “inexpensive” and Cardinals cover most salary; Rapoport says contract didn’t drive the decision.
- Atlanta: Tua Tagovailoa expected to start; Michael Penix not cleared from ACL and lacks reps.
- Cleveland: Deshaun Watson starts preseason game 1; Shador Sanders game 2; decision based on reps and live/preseason performance.
Notable examples
Mahomes practice leadership (voice calling signals); Ravens/Lamar contract desire; Rams Aaron Donald return timing; Browns QB reps; Trey Lance/Purdy comparison.
Written by AI. May contain mistakes. Listen to the episode to check what was said.
Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOSetting Up the Show
0:48 to 1:48
Rich Eisen introduces today's guests and discusses the format of the show.
“Live from the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles.”
Preseason Football Discussion
1:48 to 3:36
Rich shares insights about the upcoming NFL preseason games and his roles.
“I'm saying that because our coordinating producer, Mike Hoskins, the big Buffalo Bills honk, it's a rare day.”
Quarterback Competitions
3:36 to 6:48
Rich discusses various quarterback competitions and team dynamics in the NFL.
“And then Saturday is the rest of your preseason action.”
J.J. McCarthy's Situation
6:48 to 11:00
Rich analyzes J.J. McCarthy's position with the Vikings and the implications of his performance.
“To sit here and think opportunity is not going to knock for him ever again is absurd.”
The Future of Kyler Murray
11:00 to 14:00
Rich discusses the future prospects for Kyler Murray in relation to McCarthy.
“Like, he's not on some Farvian-type start streak, some Eli Manning-type start streak.”
Vikings' QB Situation Update
14:00 to 14:51
Discussing the implications of Kyler Murray's role in the Vikings' roster.
“reps, let's get it in Kyler Murray's practices right now.”
Upcoming Guests and Program Highlights
14:51 to 16:05
Preview of upcoming guests and segments on The Rich Eisen Show.
“Ian Rappaport will ask him all of these questions.”
Upcoming Guests and Program Highlights
16:42 to 17:24
Preview of upcoming guests and segments on The Rich Eisen Show.
“Pick up select Royal Purple Fuel System additives.”
Interview with Ian Rapoport Begins
17:27 to 18:34
Starting the conversation with NFL Insider Ian Rapoport about his background.
“And there are some places like when I go to the Steelers and they give me a credential for a training camp, they're like, can you give it back?”
Kyler Murray as Starting QB Discussion
18:34 to 21:41
Ian Rapoport explains why Kyler Murray is the best option for the Vikings.
“Kyler Murray is the best option to be the quarterback for the Minnesota Vikings.”
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Quarterback Competitions in the NFL
21:41 to 24:45
Analysis of quarterback competitions in Atlanta and Cleveland.
“Now we can focus on what the kid that got hurt, just like J.J.”
Contract Talks and Player Updates
24:45 to 27:30
Discussion on contract situations for key NFL players including Lamar Jackson.
“Ian Rappaport here on the Rich Eisen show, where's the contracts for other quarterbacks or up for it?”
Ian Rapoport on Mahomes' Practice Performance
27:30 to 28:00
Insights on Patrick Mahomes' leadership and performance in practice.
“I mean, my gosh, I can go a bunch of different places.”
Insights from Chiefs Training Camp
28:00 to 29:23
Learn about Patrick Mahomes' leadership and performance during training camp.
“Because first of all, he's looking at things that you're not, like I'm not, just like how efficient something is.”
Analysis of Chiefs' Roster and Performance
29:23 to 31:20
Discover the strengths of the Chiefs roster and insights from recent practices.
“Like this is like a little bit of his sanctuary.”
Discussion on the Bears' Future and Branding
31:20 to 34:02
Explore the potential changes for the Chicago Bears and their branding concerns.
“And so I came out there and like you could imagine they look sluggish, like are they highly efficient, energized, organized and really good.”
Update on Rams and Aaron Donald
34:02 to 37:10
Get the latest news on Aaron Donald's status and the Rams' offseason.
“like I've been surprised before in this business, you know, getting the call to Miles Garrett's about to be traded.”
Fun and Games with Ian Rapoport
37:10 to 39:26
Enjoy a light-hearted segment featuring Ian Rapoport's credential and memories.
“The disciplinary stuff is I don't believe anything has been decided there.”
Discussion with Caller
41:40 to 42:01
Engage with a caller discussing their thoughts on NFL teams.
“Back on the Rich Eisen show, we just showed a clip on our TV side of me having an argument in the 2024 Halloween with a Dodger fan.”
Discussion on Team Performance
42:01 to 42:25
Analyzing the performance and history of a sports team amidst fan expectations.
“The first of those two World Series came at the expense of the Yankees.”
Fan Discussion with Kellen
42:44 to 46:30
Engaging with a Cowboys fan about team expectations and player performance.
“One of the many reasons why I love doing this show is I get to talk with people.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00You know when you're locked in, focused and fearless. Welcome to the WNBA. Your vision narrows. You can't look away. Every assist, every stop, every logo three. From beyond the logo. Every did you see that moment. You bet. What records are going to be broken this season? All of it right here. Lock in. It's the WNBA on ESPN. All season long. Watch us weekdays on Disney Plus from noon to 3 Eastern. Missed the show? We've got a podcast so you can listen anytime. But here's the best part. Our YouTube channel. Subscribe at youtube.com slash Rich Eisen Show and you'll never miss a moment. Now, on with the show.
0:50Rich Eisen:One quarterback competition is settled. This is the Rich Eisen Show. And then in Cleveland. I'm just thankful to practice. Live from the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles. I just love the way Shador Sanders handles himself. Today's guests. NFL Network insider Ian Rappaport. Pro Football Hall of Famer Thurman Thomas. Emmy-nominated actor Carolina Weidra. And now, it's Rich Eisen. All right, everybody. Welcome to this edition of the Rich Eisen Show live on Disney Plus, the ESPN app, ESPN radio, Sirius XM channel, Lady Live here in Los Angeles, California. Ian Rappaport's first up, my buddy from NFL Network.
1:35Rich Eisen:He's going to be telling us everything that he knows, and I won't let him off until he does. I mean, it's just kind of that simple. Thurman Thomas, I'll basically take Ian's helmet. Thurman's joining us in our number two Hall of Famer. Too soon. I'm saying that because our coordinating producer, Mike Hoskins, the big Buffalo Bills honk, it's a rare day. He's out of the chair today. He's actually taking personal time on. A little PTO. I'll show you I'm a very beneficent host of this program. I said, sure, go ahead. Don Bowie's in the chair. Big Saints fan. A full half-hour breakdown on Juwan Johnson's greatness.
2:13Rich Eisen:Suddenly come out of nowhere. I just took shuck in the best ball. Did you really? I did. Okay, great. Don't bring that up right now. No, no, no. That's not the way we're leading the program with a fantasy league. We'll get to it, though. We'll get to it. Anyway, Thurman Thomas on the program in hour number two. And I love the show Pluribus. I can't wait for it to come back. For whatever reason, Vince Gilligan takes nine years to go through the Riders Room for another season. But Pluribus has been nominated a gajillion times over. including the actress who plays Zosia on this program. And she's going to stop by our number three.
2:54Rich Eisen:Carolina Weidra is going to be stopping on this program. So we'll go down another Vince Gilligan wormhole in a way that we did yesterday with Chris Hardwick talking about breaking bad. At any rate, 844-204-RICH-NUMBER-DOLL. It's a Steelers four downs day. The Steelers are in Green Bay tonight. That's the first of two games on NFL Network this evening. I will be, I've got a two a day today. I will be hosting that coverage this evening. Nice. And then Titans and 49ers as well. Very good. Love it. That'll be all on NFL Network tonight. It is preseason football time, I believe, six games tonight, three Friday, including Jets and the Bucs that I'll be in the chair for that one in the studio for NFL Network on Friday night as well.
3:36Rich Eisen:And then Saturday is the rest of your preseason action. Good to see you over there, Chris Brockman. What's going on? Rich, I'm great. Colts, Patriots, Lions, Bengals, Packers, Steelers, you mentioned, Cardinals, Raiders, Chargers, Texans, Titans, 49ers. Be all over that tonight. I mean, I'm assuming Fernando Mendoza is going to get his first action. I would imagine so, yes. And good to see you, DJ Mike. Good morning, Rich. That's Mike Del Tufo. Good to see you, TJ Jefferson, at Candles Lit, is it not? Candles Lit, so basically all your free time is done for the year. I don't know. You never know.
4:04Rich Eisen:Could be wide open. I have no idea. I'm saying your second job, football's starting, so you're going to be busy on Sundays and this every day. In theory, yes, sir. That's coming up later on this month. 844-204-RICH is the number to dial right here on the program. Listen, I told J.J. McCarthy, runway's long. Runway is very long. Just, you know, when you see Jared Goff twice a year, when you see Baker Mayfield, again, you look at the Vikings schedule And it's chock full of teams that at the end of the day are being quarterbacked by people. I mean, there's Jordan Love, who's had to wait three years before he got his role.
4:53Right.
4:54Rich Eisen:Caleb. Obviously, Caleb came straight out of the box. Tampa with Baker Mayfield. Miami with none other than Malik Willis finally getting his shot a few years in. Tyler Shuck in New Orleans. I know it didn't take long for him to get his shot in his rookie season, but just take a look at how many colleges he bounced around because he was injured and there were changes, and he basically had a pro career already in terms of that before coming in. J.J. McCarthy had just two years at Michigan, won a national championship, by the way. Then they're going to see Indianapolis in week seven. There's Daniel Jones, the aforementioned Jared Goff in week eight.
5:37Rich Eisen:Brock Purdy in week 11 Tua maybe in week 12 Bryce Young who got benched in Carolina only to now still be the man there you know I'll stop with my analogies with Drake May next on that week 14 but the bottom line is just because you didn't get the starting gig now doesn't mean you're never going to get a starting gig at all or in the case of just like Bryce Young being a perfect example in Carolina right there He was benched year two, game two, new coach coming in. Now look at him, waiting for a long-term deal. But long story short is he's got the starting gig and he's trending upwards. This is not a slight to Bryce Young, but we never mentioned the fact that the reason he got his job back was, remember Andy Dalton?
6:28Rich Eisen:Got him in a car accident. But it's not because he got his, true, he got his job back because opportunity knocked. Yeah, true. And he took advantage. And he took advantage, which could happen at any point between now and the moment the opportunity is going to knock for J.J. McCarthy. He's 23. To sit here and think opportunity is not going to knock for him ever again is absurd. But as a 23-year-old, you could sit there and go, this is the end of the line or the end of the world. But he's always basically – He doesn't have to look further than that. He's the guy who, if you remember, drew a smiley face on his hand when he was at Michigan because he got so down on himself as a high schooler.
7:11Rich Eisen:He had to do that to help him mentally and remind himself life's going to be just fine. So it's no surprise that he took this approach when he met with the media yesterday and talking about how he took the news that he's not the starting quarterback in Minnesota for 2026 to start. A decision was made that was out of my control, and obviously every competitor wants to play. But moving forward, it's just about continuing to work hard and just staying ready for when my number's called. What were your initial thoughts when you found out the decision had been made? Obviously disappointed. You know, I'm a competitor.
7:50But at the end of the day, you know, it's in the past, and I'm moving on to the next practice, the next rep, the same mindset I had going into it, and focusing on the Giants this week.
7:59Rich Eisen:It's tough. I totally, you know, he's going to be walking around that building knowing he's not the starter. All he wants to do is lead. He wants to be a leader. And the best way to lead is to be the lead guy on a depth chart. I mean, that's just the way it works in the National Football League. But he can also lead by showing that he's taking this in stride and is staying ready because they know at some point it's entirely possible the understudy is going to have to get out there and perform and it's going to be the bright lights and he knows that too and i understand everything he does gets thrown back in his lap and him basically saying this is a decision out of his control it's going to get thrown back in his lap because he could control it if he played better yeah that's That's what, you know?
8:53Rich Eisen:He could control it if in the same way, right, that Notre Dame's saying going into the season is leave no doubt. If he left no doubt with his play, Kyler Murray would maybe be on another team. He might be in Atlanta instead of Tua. You know? And if Kyler Murray played any better, he might, you know, be the hand-picked chosen starter of Mike LaFleur. You know, there's reasons why everybody is where they are.
9:28Rich Eisen:But is he referring to it being out of his control and the fact that the minute Kyler showed up and he's that inexpensive, there was a thumb on the scale for him. Maybe not. That's for another day. Does he think his career is over, his future is over now in Minnesota? Do you think you have a future with the Vikings as a starter? Like I said before, this is a place I want to be. And I love every single person in this building. I love this state. I love the fan base. And I'm going to continue to just do whatever I can for this team and this organization. All right, let's give him the family feud, guys.
10:05Rich Eisen:Good answer. Good answer. Good answer. What else do you want him to say? Behind the scenes, I'd hope he'd be saying other things. Like what? I think he should want out. Why? To go somewhere else where he's not going to start. But it's August 13th. 13th. I got it right? Yeah, 13th. It's August 13th. Could you imagine if he demands a trade for the Minnesota Vikings right now, what that would be? How we would be talking about it? How you would be talking about it? How everyone else would be talking about it? If he's like, I'm out. You didn't choose me. I'm gone. Could you imagine the way that would be?
10:48Rich Eisen:Awful. handled by the media, let alone internally maybe by the Vikings? Because the bottom line is, you pointed it out just yesterday. Kyler Murray doesn't answer the bell every single time. Like, he's not on some Farvian-type start streak, some Eli Manning-type start streak. He's one snap away. Oh, let me rephrase. He shouldn't want out. Some of these other teams should be calling Minnesota. Now, that's a different story. And you know what Minnesota should be saying to those people? Pound salt? Yeah. It's like you always say, Chris, how many backups play. You need to have a solid backup. Carson Wentz is right there who's probably a better quarterback than J.J.
11:28Rich Eisen:McCarthy. Who? Did you say the words Carson and Wentz together? He did. Really? You turned me into an owl. Really? The guy who was MVP of the league for 16 weeks? What was it you telling me this morning how long ago something was? I'm sick and tired of the J.J. McCarthy slander. The Wolverine's coming out on me right now. The kid is a winner who is in a spot that, we want to talk about out of his control, his knee gives way, and he loses his first year in the business. And it just takes time for some people. I just gave you the full example of people at age 28, 29 that are not only in better spots, but are better quarterbacks than they were.
12:13Rich Eisen:I wish he came out of the box. looking like the McCarthy that played like he did in Ann Arbor. But it just didn't happen. It didn't work out for him like that, man. You think it would be better off for the Vikings just to send a 23-year-old away? And a 23-year-old should want to stay with Kevin O 'Connell. The 49ers literally did the exact same thing with Trey Lance. the game an opportunity he wasn't good and they cut bait and got a draft pick back from dallas okay uh i'll i'll i'll continue on with this thread that you've thrown out there i'll keep pulling at it um they cut bait on lance after it was obvious purdy could handle it don't you think you got to see if kyler's he's already made it the guy Kyler Murray has a pedigree of success in this league and being a high-level player.
13:15Rich Eisen:You're ready to just basically say— He clearly won the job in camp before any preseason game was played. So they've already told you what they think of Murray compared to McCarthy. And now it's year three, and this kid still isn't ready to be your number one quarterback. Go get a third-round pick for this guy from Pittsburgh or any of these other teams that have older quarterbacks near the end of the line. I think it's still too premature for it. Okay. Food for thought right here. By the way, he's going to get out there in preseason. We're going to see it. We'll see it. We'll see it. But I totally understand what you're saying, and I totally understand why Kevin O 'Connell would just basically say, reps, let's get it in Kyler Murray's practices right now.
14:08Rich Eisen:I get it. but at the end of the day, the Minnesota Vikings 2026 season just got that much more interesting because a long stone, long, long asked questions finally got an answer. Even though I, I think we knew the answer from the beginning because he's that inexpensive and they want to give it a whirl. And they got JJ McCarthy under contract for at least another couple of years. So they could get Kyler in there, see if he's the right guy or not. Now, if Kyler has a great season and takes him to the playoffs, Now what you're saying makes sense. Or they let him walk and he goes to win the Super Bowl somewhere else.
14:44Rich Eisen:Now they won't be doing that again. And that's what is informing a lot of these decisions. Let's take a break. Ian Rappaport will ask him all of these questions. Rappsheet's going to join us. Thurman Thomas is going to join us. And then an Emmy-nominated actress from Pluribus, Carolina Weidra, is going to join us in hour number three. will go down a fun wormhole on a terrific television show. Susie will join us at the end of the program in support of Women's Sports Now, which returns to the ESPN family of networks at 6 o 'clock Eastern time tonight. So she'll be, you know what? The two of us are going to be competing against each other.
15:26Rich Eisen:Oh. On the Disney family of apps. Wow. Yeah. How's that split going to go in your house? I mean. Good question. Good question. The question is, will Coop be using the TV for MLB the show? Oh, wow. Uh-oh. He's back from camp, baby. And the Red Sox have a lot of things that happen. Keep losing. Yes, go back. No, thank you. Yes, go back. The boy's back. The Red Sox can't win a game anymore. Great. What is happening? I love it. I love my son, and I love the Yankees, and everything's great. 844-204-RICH, number to dial. Your phone call is still to come as well. Rap Sheet. Ian Rappaport when we come back.
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17:52Rich Eisen:to talk about but i'm just saying nothing is that's how we'll end the conversation okay and And for our radio audience, the conversation has just begun with Ian Rappaport joining us here on the Rich Eisen Show from his home office, whereby on his left shoulder, there is a coat rack on which he has hung every credential he's ever amassed in his career covering college and professional football. And there are some places like when I go to the Steelers and they give me a credential for a training camp, they're like, can you give it back? And I'm like, oh, I'm the same way back for what? What? You know, trying to recycle.
18:27the reuse credentials trying to save the paper ones the paper ones yeah he's right the Steelers asked for their credentials back they sure a lot of teams do what uh Ravens do as well they reuse credentials yeah it's not like my name's on it I'm just no I know you just get it okay I don't know
18:44Rich Eisen:I guess that's how you can pay Lamar Jackson I don't know save money under credentials all right Why did Kevin O 'Connell make the decision he made at quarterback, Ian? So let me start off with this. Kyler Murray is the best option to be the quarterback for the Minnesota Vikings. That is number one. And I think most of us have known this. Even though when I was there, everyone was like, you know, it's a good competition. It's pretty even. It's a good competition. It's like, I hear you. Definitely hear you. But they signed Kyler Murray to be the starting quarterback. He was the top free agent quarterback on the market.
19:19they were the top team that he wanted so they found each other and like the finances are great he's making you know no money from the Vikings the Cardinals are paying almost all of it but he's been a legitimate starting quarterback he's not old he's coming off an injury yes but he's more than fully healthy has had plenty of time it ran its course in Arizona but not because he wasn't a good player. And so, you know, it makes sense. Now, as far as why now, here are a couple factors, I would say. One, if it becomes obvious and you know, you should just make the decision and let him get all the reps.
19:56I think that will help. Two, you know, you had media judging every practice. It was like Kyler versus JJ, some up, some down. But it's like Kyler's superpower is not practice. Like I've talked to people in Arizona who will say to me, like, Like, just so you know, like, he's not the greatest practice player of all time. When he gets in games, that's when it's magic. And so I think by Kevin O 'Connell saying, you know what, we're done, it kind of takes the evaluation part off of it. And then I just think, like, you just want to move forward with a starter when you know. So those are sort of the factors that went into it.
20:29Rich Eisen:Okay. And so, and then there's the inexpensiveness of Kyler's contract and the amount of time that they have to actually see what's what. or there's nothing to do with that. This is truly a straight-up evaluation. Contracts don't have anything to do with it. J.J. McCarthy can handle it. Is any part of that in play? Well, I don't believe that Kyler's contract had any part of it. Now, there is a question of if J.J. beat him out, how happy would he be as a backup? That's a question. We're never going to know the answer, hopefully. But that would be a question. But I don't believe contract-wise really matters because I could make the argument both ways.
21:10I could say, well, yeah, Kyler's cheap now, and then if he's good, you could re-up him after the year, pay him like a real franchise guy, and then he's your quarterback for the next five years. But then if J.J. McCarthy had come out and win it outright, you're like, cool. I got a quarterback on a rookie contract. He's also not making a lot of money. I could re-up him after the season and move forward. So I could make the same contract argument on both sides. I just think most of us probably knew from the beginning that it was Kyler, and it sounds like he solidified that.
21:40Rich Eisen:All right, so who's next to go here? Now we can focus on what the kid that got hurt, just like J.J. McCarthy did, that J.J. beat in the national championship, now in Atlanta, battling another veteran that's on a one-year inexpensive deal. What are we at right now in Atlanta? So we have two quarterback competitions. We'll get to Atlanta first. I don't view that as a quarterback competition. And I know we're talking about whether or not Michael Penix is going to be the starter. Like in my mind, based on what I know, Tua Tagovailoa is going to start the season for the Atlanta Falcons. Michael Penix has not been cleared.
22:21He has not done team reps. He has not. He's participated in training camp, but not at all the amount of reps that Tua has. So until Penix gets fully cleared from another ACL tear on the same knee, then I don't view this as a competition at all. Now, like when Tua starts week one, which again, I believe is going to happen. It's based on my understanding there. If he struggles, if it's not good, like could Penix take over? Sure. You know, Penix could also find himself on the, you know, he could be sidelined for the first four games. If he's not fully ready, like there's plenty of options. The team is not going to rush him, but I see Tua starting the season there.
22:59it's really a matter of like who finishes the season and who plays the bulk of the snaps and you know if Penix is healthy and he's the guy who does that and he plays well like that's a
23:10Rich Eisen:great scenario for Atlanta okay and then Cleveland that that seems like one of the more I would say typical quarterback competitions and the fact that there's been no decision made yet except who's starting which preseason game and that pushes things down the line a little bit what's going on in Cleveland? Yeah, so for the Cleveland Browns, Deshaun Watson's going to start preseason game one, and Shador will start game two. And there's a lot of data points for how the Browns are going to make this decision. There's the spring and minicamp and OTAs. There's training camp. There's team reps. There's live reps.
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23:49The preseason games matter. And it's not like Todd Munkin and the crew there in Cleveland are going to make decisions only on the preseason games, but like they matter when the lights come on, how players play matters. And I think for both of these guys and Deshaun has not played in a while. Now when he's played in preseason, sounds like there's been some good, some bad, but you know, he said moments when he's fully healthy in regular seasons where you're like, this guy's a starting quarterback. Shador is interesting because not as consistent, doesn't know the operation and like doesn't have the experience, but make some plays where Brown's people are kind of like, definitely got something like definitely something is there.
24:34And that manifests itself in games. And so that one to me feels like it's going to go, you know, through the preseason and we'll see after both of them get some, get some real reps.
24:45Rich Eisen:Ian Rappaport here on the Rich Eisen show, where's the contracts for other quarterbacks or up for it? The running backs were taken care of or, Or, you know, is something going on with McCaffrey in San Francisco with tightness? Could that be something on that lines, Ian? I would be surprised if that was contract related. I feel like it's more tightness related. Okay. I haven't heard any momentum toward a Christian McCaffrey contract. I'm not saying it can't happen. I just have not heard any momentum toward it. So it feels to me like the running backs are done. The corners are still an open question, like will Devin Witherspoon get done?
25:29Question. Christian Gonzalez, that to me feels like it's farther off. That one, we'll see if that one gets done this training camp. It might not. And then if it doesn't, you can do deals during the season, but it's a little more of a challenge. So I would say that's where that kind of stands. Looking at my board behind me, we were able to actually cross off a lot of contract extensions while I was away. I haven't been back in this office in a while. We got a lot of guys we're going to erase, which is great. But then, you know, you still got some other guys who are going to compete. You mentioned Lamar.
26:04Could that happen? I don't believe Baker's getting done. Stroud? Stroud is still an open question. I know they've had some conversations. Don't know if that one is going to come to fruition, but we will see. We're going to keep keeping our eye on that one.
26:18Rich Eisen:You know, the tires that have been kicked on the Lamar conversation on this show over the last couple weeks, you know, reading between the lines, it seems like, you know, the Ravens are more eager than Lamar to get something done. Is that fair to say on that front? Yeah. I mean, again, I'm not saying nothing's going to be done before the season, but like this isn't a question of like, do the Ravens want to make him, to pay him and make him the highest paid quarterback in the NFL? Like, duh. You know, like, first of all, first of all, you know, not that there was any question about what kind of player or person he is, but sounds like his camp has been unbelievable.
26:55Full buy-in, which I said somewhere, and people were like, oh, well, you're saying he wasn't bought in before. It's like, just because you compliment one thing doesn't mean you're ripping another thing. It's not like Lamar was like, you know, sitting in the back of meetings with his feet up. It's just sometimes a change is necessary, and sounds like he's been really engaged with this new coaching staff, especially Jesse Minter. I think that relationship is going really well, So the Ravens do want to pay Lamar. Doesn't mean a deal is going to get done, but like at least there is the want to in Baltimore.
27:29Rich Eisen:Okay. A few more questions. I mean, my gosh, I can go a bunch of different places. Ian Rappaport here on the Rich Eisen show. You were just in Kansas. I got to go visit my mom after this. So we can't go so, so long. That's all good. Esther is waiting, Rich. Esther is waiting. Esther Rappaport. Esther. Esther. E-S-T-A. Esther. Esther. oh i don't again that that's the way my my new york city mother would pronounce esther so i just okay very good um she's a big fan she says hi to esther rap report for me please hello um you were just in kansas city give me give me what you picked up um from from holmes's readiness to everything else i mean i was with baldy and like if you ever watch a practice with Baldy, it is unbelievably fun.
28:14Because first of all, he's looking at things that you're not, like I'm not, just like how efficient something is. We're at practice, and Baldy goes, listen. I'm like, for what? He goes, just listen. What do you hear? And all he heard was Mahomes' voice. Full silence on the field, except for Patrick Mahomes calling signals and directing players. and he's like you can go around to the NFL and you won't hear that some yes like Pittsburgh you hear Aaron Rodgers voice right I mean it's like the you know these these starting quarterback leaders Joe Burrow you know and I mean there's I'm not going to go through them Stafford there's a lot of them um but it's not all and like Mahomes was in charge and that was a cool practice to see he looked so good I mean I can't overstate how normal he looked and like you know you come off the field talking to Chiefs people and it was plenty of topics to get to like we talked about Kelsey and the offensive line being rebuilt and what they like of this these new defensive pieces as they remake their defense and the draft picks there's a lot to like but everybody was like how about Mahomes and I'm like how about him he looked really really really good well who's he throwing to you know he's got i mean first of all kelsey looked good too i thought um and i you know spent some time with kelsey after it is interesting you know he's got like a separate sort of celebrity life i guess it is interesting how much well like no well no because he's obviously he's married to someone very famous but like they probably still like sit at nine o 'clock at night and watch netflix and oh no they're they're like they're like a normal couple but i mean you know the the pod
30:01Rich Eisen:and everything else i sure you know uh for sure can can throw somebody off of just any equilibrium but he does seem to have it all down pat you know he likes he loves being atst joe's he likes the training camp he likes the you know eating with buddies and living in dorms and like i was just I wasn't ready for how much he would like it. And I thought that was kind of cool. Like this is like a little bit of his sanctuary. And so you could see why a guy who doesn't need to play, who has plenty of money, who has nothing left to prove his one titles keeps playing. Cause he just likes the environment so much.
30:38But anyway, like you got Rasheed Rice who I thought pretty good. You know, you got Taekwon Thornton, you got some other, you know, some other receivers who probably we don't know yet but we're going to um yeah ken walker who's going to be used in the past game more than we've seen in the past okay they've got guys they've got
30:58Rich Eisen:some guys i mean they got xavier worthy who you know season got blown up receiver but another good one yeah and he got he got blown up and a friendly fire unfortunately in just the first series of last season where things just immediately started going south for the shoes in in brazil um but you're saying everyone's engaged everyone feels good like this is you you left chief's camp saying thinking what essentially you know i mean first of all it was a really hard camp you know like hold on somebody i'll look for this as i as i keep talking because somebody there texted me an interesting little nugget about their practice So it was eight long, full padded practices the last 10 days.
31:41And so I came out there and like you could imagine they look sluggish, like are they highly efficient, energized, organized and really good. And so, like, you know, it's tough to know how good a team is going to be because some of that is like health and and randomness and schedule and all the things. But like I left there being like they are going to be really, really good.
32:03Rich Eisen:Did you go to Chicago? Did you visit the Bears? at any point no Chicago um miss Chicago miss the Packers missed a couple good ones well the one about the Bears that you know obviously outside real quick what do you know about the stadium are they really going to be known as the Indiana Bears is that really happening no okay what do you got for me I mean I shouldn't say no they're not first of all no okay but my understanding is there's nothing coming today now like George McCaskey is I believe talking to media so like he's probably going to say something right but like sometimes the internet goes crazy and comes out with something and i'm always like you know and i'll check on everything which is generally annoying but also my job really sums up a lot of my job but um you know i was like debating last night as i was racing through the kansas city airport um like should i put out something that says like hey by the way nothing is coming but that's sort of like a weird news to post so i just left it alone right but like no like nothing is coming and the word is though is that what what what would have been coming is part of the deal is the bears have to put the word indiana in their in their name you know like yeah that one i find hard to believe in i have not confirmed that no no one in the no has told me that i'll be i'll be straight up because i just no one has told me that the straight up the the whole point that you hear from some of the bears uh brass when they talk about it is that you know the spot in indiana is technically still part of chicagoland and could be even easier to get to from chicago than the arlington heights site you know and so why would they go ahead and just say not only are we moving out of chicago proper we're just going to call ourselves the Indiana Bears, which would just be out of, you know, my branding skull.
33:54Rich Eisen:I can't even think about that right now. But so you're saying nothing's coming today based you can tell and that's not what's on your radar screen. I mean, look, as far as the Indiana Bears, like I've been surprised before in this business, you know, getting the call to Miles Garrett's about to be traded. Like, you know, there's been some there's been some times and I've been like, you know sauce gardener trade last year like holy cow i would do a holy cow if they were the indiana bears okay now could could move there for sure could move there right i think that is very very possible um especially if indiana doesn't sort of step up and emerge with what everyone is waiting on right but i would be surprised if that was the name okay um and so you you just mentioned miles garrett so uh before i let you go let's talk a little bit of rams certainly for our ESPN LA radio audience here.
34:46Rich Eisen:We have a fun segment that we came up with just spitballing, which is what we do here on the program about 10 days ago. Go ahead. A. A. Ron. Is he back yet? Where is A. A. Ron right now? Alright, is he back yet? Why was McCaffrey there? You can pop it up again, Don, if you don't mind. Sean Mitchell, Rich Eisen Show, Los Angeles Sports Honk put a scared Darnold and a disappointed McCaffrey as part of this. Is that scary? The reason why Del Tufo and Brockman are there is they are season ticket holders and they're smiling because their resale value is going to go up. I won't. You're not going to go to games?
35:28Rich Eisen:No. Maybe one or two. Oh, Mike works for Fox, so he's got to do this and that. I'm going to three this year. Three. Are you counting the Cowboy game you're going to take me? So two-thirds of your tickets are available. Great. I go to the games. I digress. Is he back yet? He is not back yet. He could be back. He could make a decision soon or he could not. Or he could not. That's why he's got all those credentials. That's exactly it. People are expecting a decision tomorrow. If it's possible. Or he could just not make a decision tomorrow and go, you know what? I want to wait. But there's no timeline as far as anyone is concerned because let's say Aaron Donald does come back tomorrow.
36:18Okay, fine. He's not going to play in the preseason. He might not even play week one or week two or week three, week four. He needs to get ready. He needs to be able to bounce back. He needs to know his body can do that. He's not signing up for week one. He's signing up for week 19 or whatever, 20, right? Trying to do the math there. 21, 22, anyway. yep um so i mean could he decide sure uh might he wait sure um it's really just kind of and this is how the rams are taking it just whatever he wants to do and there's some still some discussions like he's on the books for 30 million maybe they pay him that maybe they alter the contract um i don't know um but it's really just like does he want to play yes or no that's the first
37:02Rich Eisen:decision 30 million is that what it would be yeah really which like was crazy money then but like that's what the great defensive tackles make now i don't know but i mean like i'll i'll i'll play with miles garrett for 30 million dollars i know i don't have the same effect as aaron donald but um not not quite not quite at all uh is there any problem with puka's groin man like what's going on and and is he in danger of missing games because of a suspension as well what are you hearing about on that front uh groin should be okay that was more precautionary Got it. The disciplinary stuff is I don't believe anything has been decided there.
37:40At least if it has, I don't know about. Now, he's had quite an eventful offseason. And, you know, when you have those kinds of things, I believe, you know, there can be some disciplinary result. Obviously, some of that has been in the public going to rehab, the biting allegedly apparently ran into a glass door at Michael Rubin's thingy. um there's a lot a lot going on hopefully he is in a better place um but as far as all that i
38:09Rich Eisen:don't believe anything's been decided i hope he didn't do that at michael rubens thingy because he came out to get out of the white suit damn uh all right so let's uh before i send you to go see your mom go ahead please get grab a credential off the coat rack this is great every credential he's ever gotten it's totally random we have music like i'm not gonna pull a letter and i I would ask for music for it, but don't worry about it. He's already pulled it. What do you got? Game show? I got, this is a Miami baseball, NCAA baseball regional. Mississippi State played Miami in 2005. Yes. I spent most of my time hanging out in Coconut Grove.
38:48Nice. I was working for the Jackson Clarence Ledger. They, I believe they won one game and lost two.
38:56Rich Eisen:Anybody that made the show from that game? Ooh. ooh there's a couple good Miami players they had like three players drafted I'd have to go back and look okay um Mississippi State had a player named Brad Corley who's drafted in the second round by the Pirates but didn't end up making it but I think on that Miami team there was a couple good ones who made it all right there you go anytime you come on and you're in your office this is what we have to do now this is a new game I like it I like it Ian you're the best Thanks again, pal. Say hi to your mother for me. Ian Rappaport, everybody. Speaking of which, Mark Wahlberg is on our docket for first week of September.
39:36Rich Eisen:Oh, yeah. We should have him talk to the animals when he's here. Remember that? Say hi to your mother for me. All right, we'll take a break. All over the map, the great Ian Rappaport. There you go. Back with more in a moment. The Rich Eisen Show, the podcast.
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41:51Rich Eisen:and I went back at him because the Yankees had more championships recently than the Dodgers, and the Dodgers have won, subsequently, the next two World Series. So I can't have that conversation. Yeah, that didn't age well. Repeat. Don't have much of a leg to stand on. But you're arguing in the banana suit. The first of those two World Series came at the expense of the Yankees. That's funny. It's just in. Running a small business means every hire matters, people. A bad hire costs time and money, but the right one? Well, that helps your business grow. The challenge is finding that person without sorting through resumes.
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42:57Rich Eisen:Oh, yeah. Kellen in Austin, Texas. You're on the Rich Eyes Show. What's up, Kellen? Hey, how's it going? What's up, Kellen? What's up, Kellen? Not much. Well, I'm a Cowboys fan. Okay. And I'm really devoted. Sorry, go ahead. Mike, just let him talk, man. Don't talk over the guests. college. Well, I'm a devoted Cowboys fan, but that doesn't mean I'm not realistic. And I am really struggling not to drink the Kool-Aid because I'm hearing everybody starting to sing praises about this team. I'm seeing the footage from them in practice with the Rams. And then I tune into my favorite show on ESPN, the Rich Eisen show yesterday.
43:37Rich Eisen:And I see your power rankings and you have them at four are you kidding me yeah no i'm not why i but i just i'm i don't want to be hurt again rich kellen kellen kellen kellen kellen kellen it's called fandom okay you get hurt you gotta you gotta bounce back you gotta be a fanatic okay you gotta focus you gotta know at some point hopefully in your lifetime it sounds like you're manning what your 20s early 30s kellen i'm in my early 30s okay very good listen uh hopefully in your lifetime time, you're going to see the Cowboys finally deliver what you want them to deliver. And in order for that to happen, you've got to have an elite quarterback.
44:16Rich Eisen:Is Dak Prescott an elite quarterback? I believe so. Absolutely. I mean, just look at his numbers. Look at his ability to lead. I understand that, you know, when push comes to shove and win or go home time, we haven't seen it. But you got that. Do you have elite receivers? Do you have elite receivers? Do you have elite receivers? Do you have a run game that can You had Rashawn Gary on, and I'm sitting here listening to him, and I'm like, I've never been more confident that we have a great team culture now. What a leader. What a great guy. Right. You've got to be able to sack the quarterback. You've got to be able to take the top of the defense off with your quarterback.
44:53Rich Eisen:You've got to be able to run the ball. You also have to be able to defend on the back end. You've got to have good young talent and a coach that is emotionally intelligent enough to plug himself in and sell what everybody else is buying. I just described the Cowboys going into the 2026 season. I mean, that's just the honest truth. And that's why they're in my top five. I mean, I understand they were 7-9-1 last year. I understand no team's ever gone from giving up the most points on defense in one season and then the next winning the Super Bowl. I get all of that. But, Kellen, do you need a hug?
45:31Rich Eisen:Is that what you need? I did last year. When Parsons was traded, my wife came home from work to find me curled up in bed holding my Micah Parsons jersey. Now you're curled up with Kenny Clark next to Rashawn Gary, next to Quinton Williams and Ezra Raku with Overshawn behind him. My guy Barham is there. You got Bland on the back end. You got this kid Caleb Downs. You got T.J. Jefferson. Tell him to believe in the few seconds we have left. Listen, Kellen, we always have to temper our expectations. You know, as Cowboys fans, they're going to hate us no matter what we do. But you know what? Straight up.
46:08Rich Eisen:I feel good, brother. I feel good. I'm not saying we're going to win the Super Bowl. Say it. Yet. But. Say it. Feel good, baby. Say it. I think we're going to have a great season this year, man. Let's go. Say it for Kellen. All right. No. I can't. Come on, T. I don't want to have him curled up on the ball. Hold on a minute. Quick hug. Quick hug. Here we go. Hug. Tap, tap. And then we separate. ring. That's Kellen and Austin. Call back, Kellen, throughout the season. Boy, he's got scars, man. Wow. What do you Cowboys do to you people? You people? Thanks for listening to the Rich Eisen Show podcast.
46:39Rich Eisen:You can watch and listen to the Rich Eisen Show live weekdays from noon to 3 Eastern on ESPN Radio, Disney Plus, and on the ESPN app. The Rich Eisen Show, the podcast.
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Rich reacts to JJ McCarthy’s “it was out of my control” comments after losing the Minnesota Vikings QB competition to Kyler Murray.NFL Insider Ian Rapoport and Rich break down the top stories around training camps including the Vikings’ QB decision-making process, the Atlanta Falcons’ Tua Tagovailoa vs Michael Penix Jr and the Cleveland Browns’ Shedeur Sanders vs Deshaun Watson QB competitions, the possibility of the Baltimore Ravens extending Lamar Jackson’s contract, Patrick Mahomes’ return from his season-ending knee injury, a possible move of the Chicago Bears to Indiana, Aaron Donald’s possible return to the Los Angeles Rams and if Puka Nacua could miss games due to injury or suspension. Rich reassures and hopeful but trepidation-filled Dallas Cowboys fan.
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