In short
The Rich Eisen Show Hour 1 covers NFL wide receiver power rankings (top 10) and an in-studio interview with three-time Super Bowl champion Ed McCaffrey about his career path, Super Bowl experiences, and his son Christian and son Luke’s NFL journeys, plus his business McCaffrey’s Rocky Mountain Granola.
Guests (backgrounds)
Ed McCaffrey, former NFL WR and Super Bowl champion; London Fletcher, Commanders radio analyst; Anthony Michael Hall, actor. (Only McCaffrey is interviewed on the provided transcript.)
Key claims
McCaffrey says getting cut was a turning point that led him to choose teams aimed at winning (49ers, then Broncos) and that practice performance matters. He praises Christian’s work ethic and “chip on his shoulder,” citing his anticipation/vision as a key trait. He expects Luke to step up in year three with Commanders coach Quinn.
Notable examples
McCaffrey’s first Giants camp story involving Lawrence Taylor; competing daily against Deion Sanders in 49ers camp; Christian growing up around Broncos/49ers football life; Luke’s role needing weapons for Jaden Daniels.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VORich's Excitement for Football Season
0:00 to 0:54
Rich discusses the return of football season, upcoming events, and personal anecdotes.
“15 or more headache days a month, each lasting 4 hours or more, can make me feel like a spectator in my own life.”
Rich's Excitement for Football Season
1:04 to 1:28
Rich discusses the return of football season, upcoming events, and personal anecdotes.
“but choosing a snack you and your kids can both get behind doesn't have to be.”
Rich's Excitement for Football Season
2:28 to 6:05
Rich discusses the return of football season, upcoming events, and personal anecdotes.
“in the month of August 2026, 844-204-RICH, number to dial right here on the program.”
Power Rankings Introduction
6:05 to 7:09
Rich introduces his power rankings for NFL wide receivers.
“Steve Hutchinson is going to be our first guest.”
Top 10 NFL Wide Receivers Power Rankings
7:09 to 14:00
Rich reveals and discusses his power rankings of the top 10 wide receivers in the NFL.
“There are many like it, but this one is why.”
NFL Wide Receiver Power Rankings
14:00 to 16:55
Rich discusses his top NFL wide receiver rankings, focusing on Puka Nakua and Justin Jefferson.
“And I understand you're like too low, but you can now get to the portion of this power rankings where I'm going to piss a ton of people off.”
Family Moments and Ed McCaffrey Introduction
19:26 to 21:20
Discussion about the Lombard family and introduction of Ed McCaffrey in studio.
“Did you see last night the Lombard family?”
Ed McCaffrey's Career Journey
21:50 to 28:01
Ed shares stories about his NFL career, including his time with the Giants and Broncos.
“O 'Reilly Auto Parts gets you back to savings.”
Ed McCaffrey's Journey Through Adversity
28:01 to 37:10
Learn about Ed McCaffrey's journey from being cut to winning Super Bowls.
“I bet you were thinking at the time, what's happening in my life?”
Family Legacy in Football
38:30 to 42:00
Explore the legacy of Ed's family in football and the influence of his son's career.
“And so with my kids, they've just always loved football.”
Show all 12 chapters
Exploring Running Back Careers and Elite Performance
42:00 to 45:40
Learn about the challenges and performance of elite NFL running backs, including insights on Christian McCaffrey.
“It's football, it's every line of work that anybody has.”
Teammate Stories: Babysitters and Surprises
45:40 to 47:08
Hear humorous anecdotes about teammates serving as babysitters and memorable family moments.
“And why is the answer Lawrence Taylor for both?”
Transcript
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1:00Rich Eisen:This episode is brought to you by Welch's Fruit Snacks. Back-to-school season can be tough on parents, but choosing a snack you and your kids can both get behind doesn't have to be. Stock up on Welch's Fruit Snacks, made with whole fruit, and now made with no artificial dyes. It's a snack kids already love and one you can feel good about giving them. Go back to school with Welch's Fruit Snacks, now made with no artificial dyes. This is The Rich Eisen Show. Hey, everybody. Can't get enough of The Rich Eisen Show? You're in luck. You can find us everywhere. Watch us weekdays on Disney Plus from noon to 3 Eastern.
1:42Rich Eisen:Miss the show? We've got a podcast so you can listen anytime. But here's the best part. Our YouTube channel. Subscribe at youtube.com slash Rich Eisen Show and you'll never miss a moment. Now, on with the show. Let's begin. This is the Rich Eisen Show. What do you think we are, gangsters? From the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles. Running backs should be paid because of what these guys do. Today's guests, three-time Super Bowl champion receiver Ed McCaffrey, Commander's radio analyst London Fletcher, actor Anthony Michael Hall, and now it's Rich Eisen. Everybody, it is the Rich Eisen Show here on a very busy first Wednesday in the month of August 2026, 844-204-RICH, number to dial right here on the program.
2:39Rich Eisen:All sorts of good stuff here in this neighborhood. Ed McCaffrey is joining us here. He's got a couple kids playing in the National Football League. I don't know if you've heard about that. That's so cool. But one of the all-time best Denver Broncos and one of the more decorated Broncos is going to be here in just 20 minutes time in person. And Ed's talking about granola. All right. Words that I've never said about any Ed or any foodstuff named granola here on this program. We're going to talk about that very much, but we shall here. And how many shows can say we're going to have Ed McCaffrey talking about granola and then a bonafide Brad Packer in our number three and Anthony Michael Hall.
3:19Rich Eisen:And then in between, London Fletcher is going to join us on this program. 844-204-RICH is the number to dial right here on this great day. It's Xander, my oldest's birthday. He is 18 years old today. Oh, wow. And he's too busy in his internship right now. He's not hearing this, but love you, bud. Good to see you over there, Chris Brockman. How are you? I remember one of the first days I met X. I've known him since he was about three years old. That's right. Happy birthday. Yeah, he's 18. I have an 18-year-old today. Jason Feller, how are you, buddy? Hey, what's up, Rich? Good to see you. They're back.
3:53Rich Eisen:I remember what these buttons do. Thus end Del Tufo's streak at 12 days. Was he here for 12 straight days? He was. Did he pull anything? Did he? We know. Is that why he's not here? Is that why he's not here? He actually pulled something being here 12 straight days. Good to see you, TJ Jefferson. What's going on? Hey, Rich, you know, on Wednesdays, we wear pink. Okay. Very good. What is that from again? Mean girls. Mean girls. Okay. Good to see you, sir. How are you? I'm good, bro. How about yourself? I'm doing fine. How are you feeling, though, dog? 18 years old. That's like. Yeah, man. What's that?
4:27Rich Eisen:How are you feeling? A blink of an eye. It goes fast, man. 18 years old. Kind of crazy. But yeah, all is good in that neighborhood. 844-204-RICH. Hello, Disney Plus audience, ESPN app audience, ESPN radio, and Sirius XM audiences. Of course, we say hello to our podcast listeners. Just because you're not listening live doesn't mean I don't get to say hello to you all. You just can't call us at 844-204-RICH. Because if you call us, we might not be here if you're listening whenever you're done. Speaking of darn well-pleasing, didn't expect to start this way. But you know what? I mean, we could start with Tarek Skubal losing his first start as a Los Angeles Dodger for having them losing five games in a row for a team that everybody said, oh, it's all over.
5:18Rich Eisen:It's all over baseball because they got Tarek Skubal. We could talk about your Boston Red Sox, but I don't wish to. We could do that later. 29 out of the last. Basically talk baseball. We can talk baseball all we want. and there is lots to talk about on this show. Later on, we shall. But right now, normally we don't start the show this way, but I'm going to do it because it's football and I'm just so psyched that it's football season. I don't know if you're feeling it too. Hard Knocks was last night, man. Hard Knocks hit last night. That's kind of along with this weekend's event in Canton, Ohio.
5:55Rich Eisen:By the way, we will be doing this show live from the Hall of Fame, Pro Football Hall of Fame Museum on Friday, 12 to 3 Eastern Time. Steve Hutchinson is going to be our first guest. So we're going to reunite with Hutch. And Luke Keekly is scheduled to join. Rod Woodson is scheduled to join. Chris Berman is the master of ceremonies again this weekend. He's scheduled to join. We're going to be there on Friday. Friday night is the jacket ceremony. that I will be hosting in downtown Canton. It's incredible. It's the moment where Hall of Famers get their first tangible items to make it dawn upon them that they are now football immortals.
6:40Rich Eisen:That's Friday. The game's Thursday. Hard Knocks debut's Tuesday. It's now a football Wednesday on the Rich Eisen Show, which means it's time for a power rankings. And I have done this the last couple of weeks. Well, I do power rankings every Wednesday, but I have turned the power rankings into my own top 10 at a position. Top 10 quarterbacks a couple of weeks ago, top 10 running backs last week. It's now time for my power rankings on NFL wide receivers brought to you by SoFi. Hit it.
7:14Rich Eisen:Power rankings. There are many like it, but this one is why. Power rankings. Power rankings of the top 10 wide receivers in the National Football League brought to you by SoFi. Full disclosure, this list is going to piss some people off. I wonder who. It's going to piss some people off. I bet it's not going to make me mad. I would say it will not make you mad. I will not make you mad. But I'm going to make some people mad. You can guess who's going to be those some people. By the end of the reveal, if you will, there are so many there are so many terrific wide receivers that could be number 10 on this list.
7:57Rich Eisen:Quite frankly they are all worthy of it. But I am landing on Chris Olave as 10th on this list. Interesting. He's really friggin good. When he is healthy and he, you know, hopefully as his guy in Tyler Shuck hopefully Shuck's the guy. Okay, because they signed Olave to this big, big fat contract. And he produces. He's done nothing but produce when he is healthy. And he is just a tough cover man. So I'm putting him 10th on this list right here. And then 9th, just so I can put my head on the pillow because of the Ohio State receivers that are on this list. Plural. I'm putting Nico Collins here. Another guy that went healthy.
8:50Rich Eisen:He is a beast. He is an absolute beast. He could be your possession receiver. He can be your physical across the middle receiver. He can be your take the top of the defense off receiver. When healthy. And I bought into the Nico Collins hype last year, taking him second round in my draft, that of the league I wanted to win the most, it just didn't work out because he did not stay healthy enough. And they also didn't have enough help for him to potentially not get blanketed. By the way, Tank Dell is back at practice just on this very day. So hopefully some help there is on the way. And they did draft some good young kids there last year.
9:42Rich Eisen:Nico Collins, though, individually, is an absolute beast. And I'm putting here at ninth. He still had a thousand-yard season last year despite being hurt. Okay. Eighth. I am so loathe to put him on this list because he's never done it before. And it puts two receivers from this team on the list. The only team on this list to have two receivers on the list. I'm putting George Pickett a little low but yeah can he do it again man can he because what he did last year was so beyond impressive and so terrific and so unstoppable that this is why the Steelers were being patient and you got to wonder if they're going to lament losing their patience at the end of the day but he's got to prove it And the Cowboys, after having seen what he did last year, were like, yeah, we're just going to franchise tag him.
10:51Rich Eisen:Show it to us again and then you'll have to put the bag on the table and then we're going to start staring down the abyss of paying our wide receivers. You know, they're already paying the wide receivers. You think about it as much as Dak. So it's the most expensive quarterback receiving combination in the National Football League. and he's got to prove that it is worth it for the Cowboys. But that said, I'm putting him at eighth. And now I'm putting A.J. Brown here. This is a big season for him. This is past performance. This is past performance, and then also just showing you how everything I said about Nico Collins can be said about A.J.
11:32Rich Eisen:Brown. Really can. He can be, you name it, what do you want? And he is perfect for the moment for you, sir. Yes, sir. Perfect for the moment for you. Daraque Maia. Let's go. Drake, Drake, May, May. Yeah, buddy. Coming off of his almost MVP season and almost championship season. That game wasn't close. Well, he still made it. He still made it. He woke up on a Super Sunday saying, I could be a champion tonight. I would love that. There's only two quarterbacks who do that. starting quarterbacks who do that on any given football Super Sunday. And he was one of them. And what a great move for the Patriots to say, this is the deep ball guy you can have, your 50-50 guy you can have when you are the guy who Kurt Warner says, out of anybody in the NFL throwing a deep ball, it's like a handoff.
12:33Rich Eisen:Yep. And let's go, A.J. Brown. Let's see what happened last year, disproven on the New England turf. I don't mean to turn this into a referendum, but that's what a power rankings is. I'm putting him at seven. And he's not the highest ranked guy with Brown in his last name on this list. You know I called Amon Ross St. Brown a top five receiver. long before he started becoming Amon Ross, St. Brown, the top five receiver. And it's ironic that I'm now here saying he's sixth on my list. He's sixth on my list because I cannot put him above any of the five that are in my top five. But he is 5A, okay?
13:23Rich Eisen:I love him. I love what he does, catching the football, making himself presentable. Going ahead and drugging off the bad games and coming back at it and turning himself into what he is. How he goes about his business. Oh, my goodness. So, Amon Ra, the sun god of Detroit, is six. Because I can't put him above CeeDee Lamb, man. CeeDee's five. Eh, might be too low. Might be too low? I don't know about it. Let's see again. But the Cowboys are the only team that have two on the list. I toyed with T. Higgins at 10, but I have to put C.D. Lamb here at 5. And I understand you're like too low, but you can now get to the portion of this power rankings where I'm going to piss a ton of people off.
14:19Rich Eisen:You ready for it, guys? You're going to be mad no matter what you do. Huh? I said those people would be mad no matter what you do. I mean, they all accuse me up there. You know where I'm going on this. There's four guys left. You know where I'm going on this front, but I'll get to it right here. Four is Jackson Smith and Jigba, and three is Puka. I'm putting Puka above. And I will be straight up with you in the same way that I thought I was right about Matthew Stafford being the MVP. I did vote for Puka Nakua as Offensive Player of the Year last year. Because Puka played one fewer game than Jackson Smith and Jigba.
14:54Rich Eisen:And wound up being 78 yards shy of tying him. for the most yards in the NFL. And Puka Nakua had the most receptions in the NFL last year with a buck 29, and he had the best yards per game in the NFL last year, 107.2. He and Jackson Smith and Jigba each had 10 touchdowns. Smith and Jigba did have Puka on an average yards per catch, 15.1 to Puka's 13.3. Puka's yards after the catch were 666 yards. That was the most in the National Football League. And he had won fewer games because he missed one. Honestly, I just, you know, I understand JSN is a Super Bowl champ and the offensive player of the year from last year and fully deserves to be a top five wide receiver.
15:50Rich Eisen:He's got the belt. He's got the belt. We'll see what Puka can do. Number two on the list, I understand his stats last year. I'm going to throw out the fact that the quarterback wasn't to his liking or to anybody's liking. Justin Jefferson is two. Justin Jefferson, let's not forget. Let's not forget. Those are the three words I'll say about Justin Jefferson. Let's not forget. because I understand again where he is on all of these stats lists of what I just said about why I chose Puka over JSN. Justin Jefferson is number two. And without doubt, without doubt, Jamar Chase is the number one receiver in the National Football League.
16:38Rich Eisen:Him and Joe Burrow, good luck. Good luck. Jamar Chase is number one. And he is, I don't think any argument in what he can do and what he should do if Burroughs stays healthy for 17 starts this coming season. So that's my power rankings of NFL wide receivers brought to you by SoFi. Get your money right. Gents. Yes. I think maybe. Where'd you put CD? You said CD was too low at five. Who do you put him above? Oh, I would have Justin Jefferson 5. I would move everybody up one, put CD 4, and have Justin Jefferson 5. I think I would have maybe Drake London instead of Chris Olave. That's kind of the only quibble.
17:29Rich Eisen:Okay. I don't know. I mean. They're kind of the same player. They both have extreme talent, and they both have kind of trouble staying on the field. I hear you. I'll take if I have Olave versus Drake London in a fantasy league it's tough to argue with Olave's catches if we're talking fantasy I kind of like Olave a little bit better just because of the quarterback situation Drake London had 68 catches last year 68 7 touchdowns I know and Olave had 109 touchdowns yeah Olave would stay down And 1 ,163 yards. I mean, it's tough to argue with that. Very tough to argue with that. I mean, I like your list.
18:18Rich Eisen:Like I said, anyone can nitpick and move a guy here and there. I'm super nitpicking. But, yeah, overall. I know the 12s are going to be angry with me. I get it. But I'm not going to sit here and go, uh-oh, I'm upset about pissing off the 12s. Well, plus, look who's ahead of them. Puka. Jefferson and Chase. Kind of hard to argue. JSN had that awesome kind of first half of the year, and Puka was awesome down the stretch. It's just, you know, kind of flip a coin on those two guys. But I agree, Chase, number one. Okay, 844-204-RICH is that number to dial right here on the Rich Eisen Show. Get away into the Hyundai getaway sales event, and get away with a deal so right it almost feels wrong.
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19:39Rich Eisen:Yeah, and single A. What a wild moment for that family. So I'm wondering, how many times have Christian and Luke scored on the same? Oh, interesting. You know who would have the answer to that? Let's bring him out. Ed McCaffrey here on The Rich Eisen Show. In studio. Don't go anywhere. The Rich Eisen Show podcast.
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22:19Rich Eisen:is here on the Rich Eisen Show, three-time Super Bowl champion, along with his wife, Lisa, and their four sons, expanding the McCaffrey Brands family with the launch of McCaffrey's Rocky Mountain Granola, as well as mustards and horseradish and all the good stuff, right? That's right here. Yes, and this is all for you. Oh, wow. If you really like it, you can talk more about it. If not, just text me. Okay. Yeah, let me know what you think. But I think you'll like it. Yeah, you look healthy. You're in good shape. You've been running? Well, okay. Now, listen, Ed. Easy, Ed. Yes, I've been running.
22:52Rich Eisen:But secondly, did he go higher register with the You Look Healthy? A little bit. Because, again, we hear on this program, if anybody goes higher register, they got to go higher register to believe what they're saying. Or is this me being particularly sensitive? Like, you're like, you look healthy. You know what I mean? No, you do. I was trying to set up my joke, have you been running? Because, obviously, you know, run. So, you know, not everyone will get that, but I was trying to set that up. But you actually do look healthy. I would say you look like you're in good cardiovascular shape because we're around the same age.
23:27You're a young buck. You're a little younger than me. A month or something like that. Well, you know, you almost made it to Leo, but you got the crabs. I'm cancerous. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so you almost made it to Leo, but not quite. But you're younger. But you look in good cardiovascular. You might not hit the weight room as much. Thank you. Yeah.
23:42Rich Eisen:Is that accurate? um you know i i'm hitting the weight room a little bit more okay but you have some you have some tone but you're not like you know gym rat that's correct which neither am neither am i by i'm zone tuning for the zone twoing for those uh in the uh in the know on the treadmill i do the zone two to get my heart rate and i'm fat burning well you're looking good shape thank you sir i greatly appreciate it's only going to get better with the you look in good shape thank you sir i appreciate ed mccaffrey here on the rich eisen show uh okay so let's get into some of the old good days um when you went how did you go from the giants to the the broncos um i was cut you were cut is that right yeah i thought i was having a great career i love new york and i love the giants still have some friends that work for the organization and dan so the coach from your last yeah well you know what it started out with bill parcells i was drafted by bill parcells he gave me the call on draft day what was that you know there you know that was when they only had i think maybe the first two rounds on the first day of the draft maybe the first round I forget but after first three rounds after that yeah well I was the last pick of the third round it was no longer televised at that point and I was waiting around on the Napoleon Dynamite rotary phone for my call and my buddy kept calling me I'm like dude stop calling me I keep thinking I'm getting drafted yes and so eventually I thought you know what I guess I'll get drafted day two but I got the call and Bill Parcells was the coach but he made it through one mini camp and Then he stepped down, and then Ray Hanley became the head coach.
25:10He was there two years. Then after going 8-8 and 6-10, he was let go. But I got to play with all those players that were on the Super Bowl team with Lawrence Taylor and Phil Simms and all those guys. Okay, give me your favorite Lawrence Taylor story. What do you got? Well, my first day of camp, I held out for eight days, which is frowned upon for a third-round draft pick, over maybe$20 ,000. Who knows what it was for? But I held out. Was George Young the guy you were on? He was. George Young was there. Come on. Yeah. So I held out. So I show up to camp and we were at Fairleigh Dickinson University.
25:40Yeah, have to be, baby. And, you know, they set up the locker room in the auxiliary gym. So it's like where they have their intramural sports. And there wouldn't makeshift lockers. And they have the athletic tape with your name written in a Sharpie. And I walked through the locker room. And sure enough, my name's spelled wrong on the athletic tape above my locker. But for some reason, my locker is right between Carl Banks and Lawrence Taylor. And I'm thinking, I don't know why I'm with the linebackers. but Lawrence Taylor's reputation already precedes him. I'm going to start off with saying he was an incredible teammate and he was really nice to me and he's smart and has a good sense of humor.
26:14Nice. But I had never met him before. So I'm sitting down between LT and Carl and it's between the first and second practice. Back then, as soon as you signed, you run out and go to practice. So I signed after the first, right before the second, and they're like, get out to practice. So I'm in my locker getting ready to go and LT's locker is notoriously messy. It's like a disaster. He can't find one of his cleats. So I haven't met these guys yet. And we already know about LT. Everybody knows everything about LT. So he's talking to Carl across my face saying, hey, man, you've seen my cleat. And I'm just sitting there minding my own business.
26:46I'm this skinny wide receiver from Stanford who just got to the team. And Carl, who's a big dude, he's like 6 '5", 6 '6", 250. And LT is a good 250. And they just won a Super Bowl. And they're two of the best, most ferocious linebackers in the league. And so LT stands up on the other side. to me and says, hey man, did you take my cleat? And I'm thinking, I'm going to get my ass kicked on the first day of practice. I just got here. And he's looking at me like he's seriously going to beat the hell out of me. And then he just slaps me on the back. He's like, oh man, I'm just messing with you. I'm like, oh my Lord, like what just happened?
27:23And then I kid you not, we go out to practice and on one of the first plays of our, our drill against the defense, uh, he head slaps one of the tight ends one of the young tight ends on our team and literally breaks his nose and the the tight end you know had to leave the practice he's like oh I'm sorry man I didn't mean to do it so I'm thinking he really is crazy like yeah I really almost did get my ass kicked I don't know yeah but he he was ended up being a great teammate I really enjoyed my time there he was really cool to me but he did scare the living hell out of me on the first day of practice I bet so you get caught
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27:55Rich Eisen:and then how did you want your way to Denver which by the way talk about you know you just mentioned And in talking about your granola and your your mustards that are sitting here on my desk that, you know, you've moved to Colorado and you've lived there your entire days and that's your home. I bet you were thinking at the time, what's happening in my life? What's happening in my career? Not knowing a life altering moment for the positive was just about to happen here. Yeah, it turned out to be great. I mean, long story short, we won three Super Bowls in the next five years. It's worked out pretty well for me.
28:27Right. But you know what? It wasn't all all luck. I remember once I got cut, Max, who's now coaching for the Chargers, he's a running back coach for the Chargers. He's our oldest son. He was two months old. So we just moved into a new apartment, and I'm writing down all my goals. You know how you do. Like, I want to be a starter. I want to have so many catches. And I was feeling really good about my position on the team. And then I just get a call that they have enough receivers in camp, and we won't be needing you to show up to camp. Like, what is – my whole world just got rocked. I'm thinking law school, business school.
28:56Camp already started for teams, so it's a little late. to try to find a team. And I had maybe four or five options of teams that were looking to potentially bring in a receiver. And the 49ers were one of them. But I made the decision to go to a team I thought could win a Super Bowl. I'm like, you know what? I want to be part of a Super Bowl championship team. That was the number one factor that I considered before I selected a team to try out for it. Because there's no guarantee you're going to make the team. And so I decided I want to try out for the 49ers. I think they're in a good position to potentially win a Super Bowl.
29:2894 they did yeah and so I go out to the team and there's like 14 receivers in camp and when I first get there they put me in a room with like eight other receivers in bunk beds if you can believe it they did that in training camp in the NFL in the 90s and I had to go to coach Seifert and say look if you don't want me on the team I get it but like there's no way I'm going to room with a bunch of other receivers people listen to music stay up at different hours I'm like I'm serious about making the team and I thought he was going to cut me and then I was really thinking you know business school law school I'm going to do something look for another career.
29:58But luckily William Barnum Floyd was holding out and there was an empty room and I ended up with my own room, which was pretty cool until he signed. But, but I had sprained my ankle. I played in a charity basketball game was kind of good cause stupid for me to do that. I sprained my ankle. So my ankles wrapped up like in a cast. We're in Rockland, California. It's like 120 some degrees. I almost got cut thinking I was going to get cut when I talked to coach Seaford, but luckily I didn't and then every day I'm going out to compete for my job um with Jerry right well I'm backing up Jerry I know I'm not going to start but they only kept four receivers that's unheard of they keep four receivers and all four from the team the year before were on the team and two of them are Jerry Rice and John Taylor so really maybe there's one spot or two spots between 14 guys competing for these spots and uh and guess who I have to go up against every day Deion Sanders right so it's like I gotta I'm backing up Jerry Rice I gotta somehow do well against Deion Sanders in practice to be able to make the team and there's 14 receivers here and all four from the year before and you know I was like my ankle was killing me I was like stressed out but that was it that was a turning point in my life and in my football career I remember walking out to practice and I just started laughing like to myself like this is ridiculous I have a sprained ankle I got to try to beat Deion Sanders on a good day when you're healthy like you got to go up against Deion and it's not looking good, but I'm like, I don't even care anymore.
31:19I just want to have fun playing football today. And if I beat Dion on one slant route, my two-month-old son's going to hear about it for the rest of his life in practice. Did you? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I love you, Dion. But I take credit. Dion doesn't give me credit, but I take credit for him being the Defensive Player of the Year that year. He had to go against me in practice every day. That's right, Ed McKinney. So I'll take it. I'm the only one giving myself credit for that. but I took pride. I was so happy for him. Like he worked so hard every day and like in some really minuscule small way, I contributed.
31:50So I'm going to take that one. But, um, but it, you know, I just, I, I loosened up and you know, you know, when you, when you run, you can't be tense. You have to relax. I started breathing. I started relaxing. I didn't care about the past and I didn't care about the future. If I make the team great, if I don't great, I'm going to be okay either way. And it allowed me the freedom to relax and play better. You run faster, you're quicker, you breathe better, you don't get as tired. And in that moment, I became a better football player. I was a better player as a backup for the Niners. And then because I didn't get in the games that much, Mike Shanahan, who was our offensive coordinator, took note and he barely talked to me all year long.
32:30By the way, he has to get in the Hall of Fame. I don't know if you have a Hall of Fame vote, but if you do, Mike Shanahan. We've waited too long.
32:35Rich Eisen:But anyway, it's kind of It's a running joke at this point, but he'll get in. It's just a matter of when. But anyway, he noticed me in practice. So for all those people who don't think people are watching, they're watching. The people that matter are watching what you do when no one else is watching. And so he noticed, and I really loved playing for him. I thought he was an offensive genius. I saw what he did with the 49ers. We blew out the Chargers in the Super Bowl, and we ran right through the season. Dallas was a tough game. The Super Bowl was the NFC champion. Right. And by the way, I was there as a local reporter for KRCR TV in Redding, California.
33:11Rich Eisen:Really? Yes. I was shooting the video just as Steve Young ran underneath the goalposts. I kind of look at the NFL Films footage of him celebrating to try and pause if you could see me in my jacket and tie with a three-quarter inch camera on my shoulder. I was there that day. That was the Super Bowl, Ed. Yeah, it was. That was the Super Bowl. It was a great game, and I know they had battled a few years before that, and finally the Niners came out. But, you know, Steve Young was so great to me. I was only there seven months, and I have friendships that have lasted a lifetime. That was such a well-run organization and such wonderful coaches and players on that team.
33:48Harris Barton took me in under his wing. Bart Oates had come from the Giants to play for the 49ers. So I got there, but I felt like I had a ton of friends and people that were really cool to me, and it was such a great atmosphere. So many Hall of Fame players, and it was such a magical season. And so I got to live my dream of being part of a Super Bowl champion. And I got to see what greatness looked like. That was a great team. That was greatness.
34:11Rich Eisen:So Mike took you to Denver? Took me to Denver. And I had an option. I could have signed a couple other places. But, you know, back then, you know, it was really good money for the time at like$136 ,000 for the season. But after moving expenses and everything else, you're playing for free, basically. And so it wasn't about the money. I just wanted to be on a championship team. And so I knew what Mike had done. And Jack Elway was my college coach when I first got to Stanford. So I had met John at breakfast when we played CU one morning. And John was a legend. He was a Stanford guy. But I'm like, I want to play with John Elway.
34:45And I want to play for Mike Shanahan. So I didn't really know a lot of other people. But those were the two reasons I wanted to play in Denver. And thank goodness that was the right decision. Because I got to play with some of the greatest players and coaches. And we got to win our first Super Bowl. Then we won another one. And it was such a magical run, but it all started with adversity, right? It all started with getting cut. And then it started with me surrendering to just be the best I could be and let fate take care of itself. And then, you know, following the right people and trying to select the right organization, right coach, right players to play with.
35:21And it just was a magical five-year run. But the memories we created in Denver, every single day of my life, I talked to someone about Super Bowl 32, or they asked me a question about Coach Shanahan or John Elway. And it just has, I never thought of that. Like when you're a kid, you think of catching passes in the Super Bowl or winning a championship, but you don't think of like how your life is affected for the rest of your life. And then with my kids playing, it's just, it's made it even more special.
35:46Rich Eisen:Well, I mean, what a life lesson you just gave, Ed, is that your biggest moments where can come out of what you consider or what everyone else around you in the rest of the world considers failure yeah failure is the best teaching tool and the best moment for you to sit down and go this ain't it this is not defining me i got this and uh it takes a reserve it takes a certain um a certain excellence uh within you that um you either wake up with sometimes you don't and by the way uh rod smith should be in the hall of fame too yes thank you um and and td's already there pat bolin obviously may he rest i love that man he helped birth nfl network he could not have been a bigger supporter of nfl network his entire um time uh while you know in his remaining days from the nfl network to to when he uh he passed um and you're right i mean mike shanahan is is uh the man um can you stay to the end of the hour because i have so many other questions well rich you know i don't know i got places i don't know i have no idea you know granola doesn't sell itself i have no idea uh what you got left but i do i do want to take a break i need your favorite elway story and obviously i want to talk about your kids who are playing in the nfl right now let's do it okay that's uh ed mccapri right here on the rich eisen show don't go anywhere we're back with more with ed the rich eisen show the podcast
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38:24And if you can help, you help. If not, you just cheer them on and hope for the best. And you're happy that they're pursuing their dreams, doing what they want to do. And so with my kids, they've just always loved football. They've always just taken to it right out the gate.
38:37Rich Eisen:Well, it's not only just you know you played in a super bowl won three of them and now you're watching your son christian having played in a super bowl um but he's also playing in a super bowl for the team you won a super bowl with for the first time in your career for the son of the coach you won two other ones that doesn't happen too often that's crazy man like you're it's so it's it's mike's kid and your kid yeah you know trying to get the same goal of what you did when you were a niner and then what you did when you were a bronco four and with mike it's nuts sometimes i feel like i'm on the truman show right like is this the real world like the world's bigger than that right but um it's amazing how it worked out i knew kyle when he was the ball boy for the 49ers and even though he gets credit for babysitting christian that was mostly crystal okay did the babysitting right but um yeah and then he went with mike to the broncos you see all those pictures of him holding so he's grown up a football life right he grew up the son of a coach and has been involved with the team since the time he could walk and so is christian he was in the locker room playing power rangers with rod smith and shannon sharp and my teammates and you know high five and john elway after games and he grew up in this football life but that's no guarantee the percentage of pro players whose kids play pro are minuscule, right?
40:00It's not like it's a hall pass to the NFL.
40:02Rich Eisen:Let alone for the son of the coach that you won three Super Bowls with. I don't know if that's ever happened really. I can't imagine. I can't imagine. And anytime I speak with Christian and to people who play with Christian, they talk about, and we pick it up from him, his remarkable work ethic. His best weapon could be what's between his temples and what beats in his chest, Ed. Where does he get that from? I think he was born with it. He's always loved sports. He's always loved football. He's one of those kids that is very self-aware. And if he loves something, he's all in. He can't get enough of it.
40:43And if he doesn't, he wants nothing to do with it. So luckily for football, he's all in. He loves it. and he's a student of the game. He's always studying, always trying to find ways to get better. He's always been super competitive. Luckily, he had a great big brother in Max who let him tag along with him and his older friends. So he was always competing with older kids. But some of it is just innate ability. He was born with the ability to anticipate and with vision. And that's not something we often talk about. You talk about 40-yard dashes and bench presses. But the great athletes in every sport have the ability to anticipate and they see things differently, the game slows down for them.
41:20And he's been blessed with that. He just has been.
41:23Rich Eisen:Well, I mean, not for you to speak on his behalf, but I'm about to ask you to do that. He's the magical age of 30 now as a running back. And you know the conversations about running backs who hit 30. I'm sure he's acutely aware of that. Is that something that's a fire lit under him, do you think? He's always been a competitor. And in a weird way, even though he's been the best at what he does for many, many years. He always has a chip on his shoulder. And I think that helps to have a chip on your shoulder, to always feel like you have to prove something. It's to other people, it's to your coaches and teammates, but really it's to yourself.
41:56Prove to yourself that you can do the things people say you can't do. You know that in your profession. It's football, it's every line of work that anybody has. You always feel like you got to prove yourself. And so, yeah, I was probably in the best shape of my life in my 30s. I was getting in better shape in my 30s. Unfortunately, I had an injury at like 33 maybe. Right. But I felt in incredible shape. And Christian started playing the game early. He was 20 when he got in the league maybe, 21, first year in the league. And then he trains like crazy. And there's been a boatload of running backs who have had 1 ,000-yard seasons and been offensive players of the year after the age of 30.
42:37You know, if you want to get into the topic of running backs, first of all, the average career in the NFL is three years. I know, right. And they talk about the average length of receivers versus running backs, and it's 2.6 versus 2.3 years. So what are we talking about? There's no metrics at all or data that suggests that the elite running backs are less productive than elite any other position. And we're not talking about every running back or every receiver, every edge rusher. The elite players are elite for a reason. And because of franchise tags and salary cap restrictions for running backs, they really drew the short stick when it comes to the salaries they're making in the NFL.
43:14No doubt about that. Right. You're preaching to the choir here. It's unbelievable. But I will say this about Christian. He's very self-aware. And football means the world to him. So he wants to be the best player he can be for his teammates and for his coaches and for himself. And he does everything he possibly can. I don't want to say that he works harder than ever. There's a lot of guys that work hard. There's a lot of guys that work smart. There's a lot of guys that come out of pocket to do everything they can to be the best player they can for their team, and he's one of those guys. So he will leave no stone unturned in terms of his preparation, and he will be ready to go.
43:48And he will play with a chip on his shoulder all the time. That's how he's wired.
43:53Rich Eisen:Age 30, man. He's made it. Not bad for a guy that was from Stanford, apparently couldn't run between the tackles and wasn't a good teammate because he didn't play his ball game. I remember all of that insanity, Ed. I remember all of that. Then he shows up at the Combine and runs the route tree better than any wide receiver that was at the Combine. I remember that, too. And let's talk about Luke. He's in a launch position as well right now. Thank you. Yeah, he's going into year three. He's having a good camp. Coach Quinn does a phenomenal job with that team. He's going to have an opportunity to step up, man.
44:23Rich Eisen:I mean, like, they need weapons for Jaden Daniels here. I mean, I know that there's, you know, McLaurin, the OG, but Luke's got a shot to really take the reins here. I'm really proud of him. I think Coach Quinn does a great job of creating competition within the team, but also building a pretty solid culture. So the guys love playing for Coach Quinn, and Luke's getting an opportunity. It's a great receivers room. They all get along. They all work really hard. They all have different skill sets. Right. And so he's going to have an opportunity. Again, in life, you know, everybody knows there's no guarantees, but he's having a really good camp.
44:55Jaden is looking sharp. I was at camp the other day, and he was on fire, very efficient, spreading the ball out all around the field. And so I'm hoping that's a good harbinger for what's to come. And Jaden's a special player. But Luke's getting a lot of playing time, and he's getting a chance to compete during camp. And he's fired up, too. He's the youngest of four boys. So when you talk about a chip on the shoulder, he's getting the last turkey leg at the dinner table. You know what I'm saying? He's scrapping. He's been a scrapper his whole life. And so he's a competitor, which is why I think he fits really well with that team.
45:27Rich Eisen:I appreciate, you know, you dropping the word Harbinger, by the way. That is a Stanford man right there. And I knew what I know what Harbinger means because, you know, Stanford is the Michigan of the West. And so in a couple of minutes I have left here, the best and the worst teammate babysitters for your children. Oh, man. The best. Teammate babysitters. And why is the answer Lawrence Taylor for both? Yeah. Oh, man. Max was just a little baby. That's true. Okay. Best and worst. I've got two minutes here. Yeah, no. For the heart out, you're a radio man. You know, Rod Smith was great in the locker room.
46:08They used to hang out around my locker room. We were next to each other. But we actually had, there's some names people may or may not know, but Jake Plummer once dressed up as Santa Claus and came into our house. Bill Musgrave babysat the kids. And so we did have a couple of guys that actually came over the house and did watch and hang out with the kids and throw the football around in the backyard.
46:27Rich Eisen:Okay, so the teammate that you said, hey, guess who's coming over to babysit and Lisa's like, who? Yeah. Really, what? No, Lisa knows him, but. No, no, not say who, like really, who's coming over? Yeah, yeah. Well, you know, it was Lisa's idea, like someone has to dress up and come over and surprise the kids. Okay, great. It's usually her idea. Any of the creative ideas that we have in our family are her. A worst, I'm not going to throw the worst under the bus, but it did involve driving a motorized vehicle into and through our garage door. Yeah, that was the worst. Now I need the hook. And they pretended like it didn't happen.
47:02It's decades later. The statute of limitations. Like the whole just magically, like, did something happen? No, nothing happened. Statute's done. I can't do it. I can't throw people in.
47:10Rich Eisen:Sounds like. It reminds me. Their number. I can't do it to them. All right. Everybody check out the McCaffrey Rocky Mountain Granola. Again, available on Amazon and McCaffreyGranola.com on all of that. Thank you for coming on here. Thank you so much. I really appreciate it. That is Ed McCaffrey right here on The Rich Eisen Show. Just real quick, when it comes to you and your home, Pella Windows and Doors are the experts at taking care of you and your home. Zero percent financing options are available right now. Certain restrictions apply. Find your local Pella Windows and Doors showroom today at Pella.com slash Eisen.
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