In short
Rich Eisen’s Hour 1 reacts to early NFL Week 2/Thursday Night Football results, focusing on the Green Bay Packers’ 2-0 start and their defense’s dominance, plus a guest interview with Steelers defensive tackle Cam Heyward. The show also previews other Week 2 storylines, including Ravens vs. Browns as a “petty” rivalry game.
Guests (backgrounds)
- Cam Heyward: Steelers DT, veteran leader and long-time defensive stalwart; also hosts a podcast.
- Tom Pelissero: NFL Network insider (appears as a segment lead/insider info source).
- Michael Chiklis: actor, later joins in Hour 3 (film The Senior; plays a 59-year-old college football player).
Key claims
- Packers look like “the best team in football” after beating strong playoff-caliber teams; Jordan Love is efficient (TDs, no INTs) and the defense is “relentless” and disruptive.
- Jeff Halfley’s scheme is credited with limiting opponents’ yards, rushes, and first downs.
- Micah Parsons’ addition is framed as the “missing piece,” with snap-count dominance and quarterback pressures.
Notable examples
- Packers held the Lions to the fewest yards per play in four years and limited Jaden Daniels/Commanders to 18 points and minimal total/rush production.
- Parsons played 44 snaps and led with eight quarterback pressures; Micah is described as “everywhere all at once.”
- Heyward discusses Steelers’ Week 1: offense “even keel,” defense improving late, Jalen Ramsey’s chippiness galvanizing the unit, and a key two-point/late defensive moment.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOPackers' Strong Start
0:34 to 0:56
Discussing the Green Bay Packers' performance in the NFL season.
“It can help you with practically anything on the web, like restoring a vintage motorcycle from a 50-page restoration block, or finally break down that long article you've had open for weeks.”
Packers' Strong Start
1:56 to 4:24
Discussing the Green Bay Packers' performance in the NFL season.
“Welcome to this Friday edition of the Rich Eisen Show.”
Jordan Love's Quarterback Performance
4:24 to 7:10
Analyzing Jordan Love's statistics and performance compared to Aaron Rodgers.
“The Green Bay Packers look like the best team in football.”
Packers' Defense Dominance
7:10 to 9:29
Exploring the impressive performance of the Packers' defense.
“with two or more passing touchdowns and no interceptions.”
Micah Parsons and Team Dynamics
9:29 to 13:14
Discussion on Micah Parsons' impact and the team's overall dynamics.
“I think our players are doing a great job feeding off one another.”
Future Outlook for Packers
13:14 to 14:00
Speculating on the Packers' future performance based on current trends.
“And, you know, who is the one who's somebody we're throwing to right now?”
Packers' Potential and Micah Parsons Impact
14:00 to 16:46
Discussion about the Packers' performance and impact of Micah Parsons.
Upcoming Segments and Guest Introduction
16:46 to 17:05
Preview of the show structure and introduction of segments and guests.
“We'll talk about the Commanders later on in this program.”
Interview with Cam Heyward
19:34 to 23:17
Interview discussing Cam's experience, team dynamics, and recent game performance.
“It was like watching a conductor compose or composer compose an offense or, you know, an orchestra.”
Defensive Strategies and Accountability
23:17 to 26:51
Cam discusses the importance of accountability in defense and game strategy.
“You referenced it yourself about not the defense's best day.”
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Reflections on Micah Parsons and Packers Matchup
26:51 to 28:00
Cam shares thoughts on Micah Parsons' impact and the upcoming game against the Packers.
“so I'm looking forward to hitting those incentives.”
Packers Game Preview
28:00 to 28:39
Discussion about the upcoming Packers game and key players involved.
“And then what did you think of, you want to put your podcaster's hat on, Micah, and what he adds to Green Bay?”
Stopping the Run
28:40 to 29:50
Analysis on the effectiveness of stopping the run and implications for the Packers.
“You got McAfee there standing there, too.”
DK Metcalf's Reunion
29:51 to 31:28
Cam discusses DK Metcalf's upcoming game and personal interactions.
“Do you talk to DK Metcalf this week about his reunion?”
Derek Harmon's Injury Update
31:29 to 32:48
Update on rookie Derek Harmon and his future prospects.
“You know, that's a kid that I think is going to have a really successful career.”
Jack Sawyer and Michigan Rivalry
32:49 to 34:11
Discussion about upcoming guests and rivalry with Michigan.
“I saw him on your pod talking about some play that they'd never run.”
Connor Stallions Controversy
34:12 to 35:10
Debate over the implications of Connor Stallions in the Michigan controversy.
“any point of view on this front cam you know so i'm happy to come on up how about you bring jack on and I'll be there too.”
Ravens-Browns Rivalry Unveiled
38:07 to 41:08
Analysis of the Ravens and Browns rivalry and its historical context.
“For our radio audience back on ESPN Radio, we just showed a Kentulo special of the Ball Brotherhood video from back in our...”
Derrick Henry's Tackling Challenge
41:09 to 42:01
Discussion about Derrick Henry and the challenges of tackling him.
“Baltimore secondary, I don't know what the other one is back there.”
Derrick Henry's Tackling Reputation
42:01 to 47:18
The discussion revolves around perceptions of Derrick Henry's tackling ability and the reactions from players and commentators.
“Grant, I mean, going back to that, we saw it last year.”
Transcript
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1:41Today's gasps. Steelers defensive tackle Cam Hayward. NFL Network insider Tom Pelissero. Actor Michael Chiklis. And now, it's Rich Eisen.
1:56Rich Eisen:Well, hey everybody. Welcome to this Friday edition of the Rich Eisen Show. One game already into week two of the NFL campaign. College football beckons all of us, along with a full in bulk Sunday schedule of the NFL over the weekend. Getting you ready for all of that. Reviewing what we saw on Thursday Night Football. We say hello to everybody out there streaming us live on Disney Plus and ESPN. The app available everywhere. And also saying hello to everybody listening to us on Sirius XM Channel 80. And of course, ESPN Radio presented by Progressive Insurance. We say hello to our newest affiliate down there in Houston, Texas.
2:31Rich Eisen:97.5 and 92.5 FM. And just me being a Yankee fan, proving George Costanza's wrong, that a Yankee can be sent to Houston. So we're happy. You didn't say it the right way. I'm cleaning it up for the audience. We're trying to make a good first impression, Christopher. I understand. Cam Hayward beckons on our rundown. Tom Pelissera to give us all the information that we require. And then Michael Chiklis will be in studio in hour number three. He's in a new film called The Senior, available nationwide next Friday, September 19th. And guess what? He plays a 59-year-old college football player based on a true story.
3:16Rich Eisen:So it's great when Michael Chiklis joins us. And I'm on pins and needles because the last time he was here, he brought his pug with him because his pug is named tom brady tom brady so uh it's it's gonna be great i hope he brings the dog it's so much fun did you put in the request i did okay i said uh i said are you please bring tb12 and he wrote um i'll let you know and i'm like i meant the dog and he wrote back i know what you meant so that's our three good to see you over there christopher How are you? What up, Rich? I'm feeling great. How are you? Jason Feller, Jay Felly. Good to see you. What's up, Rich?
3:53Rich Eisen:You got your feet up, ready for your Raiders to play the final game of the week, the Chargers and the Raiders. The final game of a Monday night doubleheader on the ESPN family of networks. Candles not lit. What's going on? John Wick 5? What's happening? When are you going to light the candles? I need some new candles, clearly. Okay. But give a shout out to Houston. There you go. Not from Houston, but at Rapid Lock. Fantastic. Good to see everybody where they are. Let's get into it. How are you doing today, Rich? I'm great. Thank you. I'm great, but not as great as the Green Bay Packers. Five days into the season, two games into the season.
4:27Rich Eisen:And I'll call it the way I'm seeing it. The Green Bay Packers look like the best team in football. And that's what they look like. I'll be honest. They play in every phase. I know McManus, every single time he gets up there, I think of the usual suspects. and they play lights out defense and their offense is being run by a quarterback who's a kid no more. They've got wide receivers that probably aren't on your fantasy team for days. And now they got, you know, Rob Gronkowski or Kittle in Wisconsin and Tucker Craft. and uh he was the main weapon josh jacobs keeps scoring touchdowns he now has a rushing touchdown in 11 straight games tying jonathan taylor and priest holmes for the second most all time should uh he josh jacobs crease the end zone in cleveland in week three he would tie ladanian tomlinson for the most such consecutive games heard of them since 2000 including the playoffs Those are the active streaks we're talking about.
5:37Rich Eisen:And so they run it effectively. They throw it effectively. And boy, do they play defense. And they have now taken out the division winner in their own division last year in week one. And the team that eliminated them and then the aforementioned division winner in last year's season in the Lions, the commanders took care of business by taking out the packers and then took out the lions and the packers in the first five days of this season first two weeks of this campaign took them both out and made them look pedestrian in the process made them look mediocre in the process left the lions to go back to detroit wondering if they've lost their two coordinators and thus their mojo And now with the commanders, you know, it's amazing that we're talking about it this way, but making the commanders look like the oldest roster in the league.
6:43Rich Eisen:And it is, again, Jordan Love in a quarterback-driven league. Jordan Love, with the performance on Wednesday night, getting this team to 2-0, and in so doing, took care of business to a considerable tune with his 14th career start with two or more passing touchdowns and no interceptions. Only in the first 35 career starts out of active players, Patrick Mahomes and Brock Purdy have had more. And when you look at his numbers now,
7:30Rich Eisen:similar to Aaron Rodgers through his first 35 career starts. That's funny. He's 20 and 15 through his first 35 career starts. Rodgers was 19 and 16. his passing completion percentage Rodgers through his first 35 career starts 64.6 Love is 63.6 the yards per attempt Rodgers 7.8 Love 7.5 passing touchdowns to interceptions Rodgers 23 touchdowns to 23 63 touchdowns to 23 interceptions Love 62 touchdowns to 23 interceptions the passer rating of Rodgers of 98.1 Love 96.6 I mean right there and what did Rodgers do when he was 27 years old? Won his championship in Green Bay. Love turns 27 in November.
8:15Rich Eisen:As the Packers have started 2-0 for the first time since 2020, when they made the NFC Championship game and got bounced by Tom Brady and the Bucs. And Tom Brady's not walking through that door, except to call their games, which I imagine he will be calling a bunch of because the Packers look like the best team in football and Fox has the NFC package and will be no doubt showing a ton of Packer games because, again, I just gave you love's excellence, but the defense is balling out. This was the head coach about his defense after the game last night. Relentless. Just physical, aggressive attacking.
8:59Backing, the play style is exactly what we want from these guys.
9:05Rich Eisen:And it always starts with the energy and effort. That's going to get you through and can overcome for some of the mistakes. So I just thought, like, I think our front is extremely disruptive, getting after the quarterback. I don't even, it didn't seem like they ran the ball very effectively at all either. So, you know, I think half's done a hell of a job. I think our players are doing a great job feeding off one another. And it's definitely exciting to watch our defense go out there and perform because I think they allow us to get up on somebody. Half being Jeff Halfley, the coordinator he brought from college football, and he's coordinating it up.
9:49Rich Eisen:I mean, after holding the Lions to the fewest yards per play in a game in four years and Jared Goff throwing his first red zone interception in three years and holding the Lions to their fewest rush yards in a game in two years, they go ahead and snuff out Jaden Daniels and the commanders with just 18 points. It's tied for the fewest points scored in any of Jaden Daniels' 22 career starts, while also in all of Jaden Daniels' 22 career starts, this was the fewest total yards, yards per play, rush yards, and first downs. That's what they did. and again we're talking about the commanders having the oldest roster in the league and boy do they look old and they have maybe the best young quarterback in the league in the unicorn right that's what the defense did that's what the packers are up to and major major reasons why are all over the place i've given you all but the thing that makes them feel that much more special is because they field Micah.
10:57Rich Eisen:Micah Parsons. Jeez.
11:05Rich Eisen:Dude, 29 snaps is what he played five days ago, and they got him up to 44 last night. And in his 44 snaps, he led the team in eight quarterback pressures. Eight. okay he played two-thirds of the snaps on on uh thursday night and just dominated yeah he was everywhere everywhere it was funny that was what happened because coop went out to dinner came back in we're watching the fourth quarter and the packers are on defense and he says where's micah parsons and i responded everywhere what was that movie everywhere all at once everything everywhere all it was. Yeah, that was Micah last night. And like that movie, Micah is award winning.
11:52Rich Eisen:Yeah. He's now the betting favorite for defensive player of the year. Well, I mean, because he's hardly played, you know, 29 snaps, 44 snaps they did in five days. And he's ready to play more. I mean, he sounded upset about playing on a snap count. I do believe we have that soundbite from Micah Parsons, if I'm not mistaken, after the game, after he hung out with the Amazon Prime Video postgame. Yeah, that was fun. Had this to say. Man, I just hope I'm a full go. Honestly, it's pissing me off. I tell him it's more worse than good. I get tight and stuff. Hopefully, they just let me off, man. I can't hold a dog back forever, man.
12:34Rich Eisen:Well, 10 days from now is when he'll be out there again and on the same field as Miles Garrett. and you know he wants to start proving a little bit more and again it's a team effort i understand Rashawn Gary had a sack Van Ness looks like he's found himself the rest of the team boy that back end of the defense was shutting things down Daniels had nowhere to find anybody and they were rushing for and keeping him in the pocket and didn't let him out to run the football as a Matter of fact, his 17 rush yards, second fewest rush yards in a game in his career. Yeah, and this is what the Packers defense is doing right now.
13:16Rich Eisen:And, you know, who is the one who's somebody we're throwing to right now? Mike Hoskins, if you don't mind me pointing him. Okay, Sean Nixon. He was very direct as to why things are working for the Packers defense now in a way that we didn't see last year and previous years. Is there a difference, swagger or excitement with the defense that you feel when you're on the team? Swagger? You did last year? Yeah. Yeah, we got Michael Parsons. Okay.
13:49Rich Eisen:It's as plain as day. I am directing my comments at you, TJ, because I'm telling you, I told you earlier in the week the way this is going to work. it's every Packer game through week four when they play the Cowboys then pages will be turned okay pages will be turned until the end of the year and if the Packers go on this run that a lot of people are seeing for them rightfully so through five days I don't believe this is an overreaction that they can go deep based on what we've seen what they've done to two of the best playoff teams from last year or at least regular season teams going into the playoffs and one of the best playoff teams from last year final four team last year yeah they beat last night and and handily it's going to then return that micah was the missing piece ingredient accelerant on the flame that was already burning in green bay and i tweeted out last night evergreen tweet i can't believe the cowboys traded micah parsons how do you do such a thing with all due respect to Kenny Clark you cannot dominate a game from his position unless you're as good as
15:06Rich Eisen:Aaron or Donald or Dexter Lawrence or Miles Garrett when he wants to line up in there how do you do that and how do you keep him how do you send him in conference how do you send him to a hated non-divisional rival how do you do such a thing just because you couldn't figure something out and you could see him he's inflamed by it he's outraged by it you saw him dapping up his teammates doing the leadership thing the cowboys were trying to get from him and i guess i don't know if he was an immature guy in dallas this whole business over business is personal crucible that he just went through over the last few months might have aged him up and now he's a grown-ass man we'll see how it goes we'll see when he starts podcasting what he says what he does i don't know how it might great against his teammates or i have no idea but right now the packers look like the best team in football and for good reason they're doing it in every phase and they're doing it to teams that were terrific last year and we're assuming will be good this year we might look back on weeks one and two and say well those weren't all that impressive based on the way that they've come out of the game but i think we can all assume in terms of rosters the lions and the commanders are in the top third of the league and they they played with them like a cat does with a ball and catnip i mean they just they just played He just toyed with him.
16:45Rich Eisen:844-204-RICH is the number to dial. We'll talk about the Commanders later on in this program. It's a What's More Likely Friday. My top five list of other games that I'm looking forward to seeing in week number two. Tom Pelissero with information. You with phone calls at 844-204-RICH. And Michael Chiklis with a movie clip and maybe his dog. What's more likely? What's more likely? A movie clip. Yeah, a movie clip. Because he didn't jump at the opportunity to bring his dog. No, it seemed like he was like, eh. I know. 844-204-RICH is the number to dial here on this busy Friday on Disney Plus, ESPN, Everywhere, and ESPN Radio, presented by Progressive Insurance.
17:25Rich Eisen:Cameron Hayward coming up.
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20:19Rich Eisen:it's good to see you man um okay so are are you are you happy rogers took his time because it kind of worked out you know what i mean like kind of kind of worked out for you right now cam game one hey reverse psychology there kind of there and then he found his way to the steelers oh my gosh i i mean that's what that's what you're talking about right four touchdown passes using whatever chip he had on his shoulder to to his and your advantage um and off you go what What was that like from your perspective, Cam? It was like watching a conductor compose or composer compose an offense or, you know, an orchestra.
21:02And it was just amazing. Like he would communicate. He would get guys lined up. But the thing I was hearing from the offense was he was never rattled. And when you have a guy who's very seasoned and has been doing it a long time, he's going to make everybody, you know, he's going to show out and make sure everybody shows out with him.
21:22Rich Eisen:And how does that permeate a team and a sideline in a game throughout a week? I think it just allows you to keep battling on defense. I know we didn't have our best game, but to have an offense that was just even keel and match points for points, sometimes get us a lead, and then keep battling back throughout the entire game. We just knew we had to get stops late. And when you do that and have that confidence in your offense, that just makes you a complete team. And, you know, in this game, it's not always going to be the defense dominating. It's not always going to be the offensive dominating.
21:57It's a mixture of both and having each other's backs in those moments.
22:01Rich Eisen:And what can you tell us inside here, Cam, about, you know, narratives, man. You have a podcast of your own. You've been in the league for a decade and a half. That Rodgers doesn't work well with others, that it's his way or other. I know you just borrowed your brow, but honestly, that he that he needs it to be his way alone. And now he's joined a Steelers system that looks like he's very comfortable in. So what do you say to anybody that says, well, it's just a matter of time till it's the other way around? What do you say about that? You know, you look at his way and it's a Steeler way. It's about being accountable.
22:41It's about doing things on and off the field that prepares you for the game. If you can't roll with that, you shouldn't be on the field. I think I've really enjoyed watching him, the way he prepares, the way he challenges guys, and then he challenges himself. There's no lack of accountability there. And so when you look at that side of the ball, having that all the way through, I can respect that. Every one of our teammates can respect that. It breeds competition. It breeds getting better. And it breeds a better team.
23:16Rich Eisen:Cam Hayward here on the Rich Eyes and Show. You referenced it yourself about not the defense's best day. What can you tell Steeler fans about that day and how you're coming out of that day? Hopefully it's a hiccup. We can move past it. I think as a defense, we're just raring to get back on the field. A lot to answer for. But, hey, I'd rather have a win last week and be able to talk about our problems than have a loss and just, you know, say we played okay. So more ball we played. We got 17 games. We've already played one, so we're at 16. So there's more room to, you know, let our work speak for itself.
23:57Rich Eisen:And Jalen Ramsey was lowering booms, man. He was hitting people. And it caused a little bit of a moment, to say the least. I think it was the best moment. You know, the end of the half, he gets chippy, and I think it kind of galvanized the defense a little bit. You know, we love when we're chippy, and sometimes you need to just, you know, break it open a little bit. And after that, I felt like we played a lot better ball in the second half. And then I just love football in its poetic ways that led to Jay Ramsey making a game-winning tackle that, you know, dislodged the ball out of Garrett Wilson's hands.
24:35Rich Eisen:And again, you know, I learned from my guy, Sap, all those years on game day morning, front and back end of the defense must play together. And it's all one big organism on defense. What did you what did you get out of game one from that with Jalen Ramsey now policing back there with the rest of the crew camp? I think, you know, you can't just pass the ball quick and think it's an easy way to get some yards. whether it's you take your time and we get a chance to rush or Jalen or Slay making some big plays. One play that's not talked about enough, Darius Slay, I think it was on the two-point conversion.
25:15He came off of his coverage and knocked out of bounds, saved two points on the board. So you look at our score, we went 34-32. That's one of those big moments we don't talk about enough, But having guys like that on the back end that, you know, help our front end is going to go a long way in the future.
25:33Rich Eisen:And then one last one on week one. What was it like in the locker room afterwards for that one? It was special, you know, because it wasn't a perfect game, especially on defense. But having a kicker who kicks a 60 yarder to win it, that's special. Having an offense continue to just go through a shootout and put up points. and then a defense that made plays late. You know, we appreciate these moments because they're far from few. And when you have guys that do it in different ways and are able to bounce each other out and overcome bad mistakes, that makes for a great win. Cam Hayward here on the Rich Eisen Show, fresh off of a week one victory prior to which you worked something out with the Steelers on a contract.
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26:20Rich Eisen:I know that you were looking for one. and I know it's year 15, you know it's a business. Are you copacetic here? Are you page turned? Are you happy? What do you term yourself right now? Page is turned. I'm glad I can put this to bed a little bit. The opportunity is there to earn some more money, but I got to play my game. I got to be at the top of my game, and I like it that way. And anyone who has a problem with that, and you don't have a problem with me getting more sacks to make it to the playoff, that's a problem. so I'm looking forward to hitting those incentives. Well I mean can you give voice to I think you kind of just alluded to that right there is how it's viewed by fans outside looking in for some people how money equals respect certainly for somebody who's done it for as long as you.
27:08Rich Eisen:Do you want to give voice to that concept after we saw Micah balling out last night for Green Bay again in just two games and what he was standing firm and his beliefs and things like that contractual situations Cam? Yeah, just, you know, we have a limited time to do it. And when you're at the top of your game and you're, you know, you're respected around a league, you want to be respected by your franchise. And looking at the Micah situation, you know, I think everybody's kicking themselves that they couldn't come to an agreement because that dude has been balling since he's gotten a greenbacker.
27:43And, you know, it's going to make a lot of people scratch their heads like, dang, we couldn't just get this done earlier. and I'm happy to say I'm still a one-helmet guy and I have the benefit of working with an organization that takes care of their players.
28:00Rich Eisen:And then what did you think of, you want to put your podcaster's hat on, Micah, and what he adds to Green Bay? Because I'm sure you're keeping an eye on that game. You're going to see Green Bay and obviously that is going to be a massive game for your quarterback that makes whatever chip he may have had on his shoulder in MetLife look like a very, very, very small pebble. So what do you see when you're looking at the Green Bay Packers on Thursday night and Micah's addition to that defense, Cam? Well, first, I have to make sure I get Aaron booked for that week. So going into the podcast, I can show that.
28:35Very good. I mean, McAfee might help you out of the way.
28:38Rich Eisen:You know what I mean, Cam? I mean, you might be in the second position there. You never know. But, hey. I don't know. I might have to beat you to it. Okay. Very good. You got McAfee there standing there, too. But all good, man. You have the floor. Go for it. Yeah. I just think when you look at Green Bay, they are a sound football team. They got wide receivers for days. You have the matchup Aaron Rodgers for his love. And so that's going to be a duel there. But, man, I'm going to have my questions ready for that podcast. I'm going to make sure Aaron's well in tuned and ready to talk a lot of stuff.
29:13Rich Eisen:I bet. And what did you think of when you heard Jerry say, you know, Micah is great. We loved having him, but we needed to stop the run. What did you, as somebody who can stop the run on the way to the quarterback, think of something like that, Cam? I love Kenny Clark. And I think he's going to be a big value to their team. But the one thing I worry about, you say you got to stop the run. Did they stop the run? So that's my only concern with that. But, you know, you could – I wouldn't just say Micah Parsons is the reason we couldn't stop the run. So if you think a trade is going to do that, I think that's a little incomplete.
29:51Rich Eisen:Do you talk to DK Metcalf this week about his reunion? Is that something that you go up, you address, you don't, you just know? What about that, Cam? Oh, you know, DK is raring at the best. He already told me he's got like 20 tickets for this game. So he's got his people coming. And he was a little booked this week. So I'm looking, I'm planning on having it on next week. I'm going to make sure my guest booker gets on top of that. But somebody, somebody just got pointed out. Okay. All right. I got it. And sometimes it's better to have the guest on after to react to what happened than just a preview.
30:28Rich Eisen:You know what I mean? Talking the game. I love it. It's not my first rodeo, but, but, but do you say something to DK? Hey, does he wear it on his sleeve at all this week? It goes unsaid? What is it like around his parts for this week? It doesn't go unsaid, but the way DK works, you don't have to worry about that. You know, he is very relentless when he steps on the field. And the way he prepares, he's added a lot to our wide receiver group of how to work. I put him in that same category of like an Antonio Brown where they would work relentlessly and you'd be like, man, does this dude ever get tired?
31:04So he's just chomping at the bit. But, you know, we want to make sure we play the petty ball. And so we want to make sure we reward our guy.
31:13Rich Eisen:And how's Derek Harmon doing? Not to turn you into an information individual in the NFL, but obviously this is a rookie that was drafted to be right there with you on the line. And he got hurt in the preseason. Is he close to coming back? Are you going to get him soon? We'll see. I am not a doctor, so I cannot say for sure. But I'm excited about his future. You know, that's a kid that I think is going to have a really successful career. He works extremely hard. He plays with good pad level. He's strong. And, you know, he wants to be great. And so when you have a kid like that, you want to make sure you give him every opportunity.
31:53And I keep telling him, once you get on that field, it's going to happen. So once he's healthy, he'll be out there and he'll be able to ball.
32:01Rich Eisen:Okay. So I guess the end of November, your guests on your pod, Jack Sawyer, Will Howard, you're going to have those guys? Who else are you going to have? Or should we get you back? Oh, please. Because that might be fun to talk about. Do you really want a piece of me that week, Cam? Hey, man, we just want a pound of flesh. That's all we want. Well, I mean, it's been a while. I mean, you did personally hang on the same field on trying to stop the last quarterback-wide receiver combination to beat Michigan. You saw them first right there in front of you in week one. That was 2019. I did mess with Jack, though.
32:39I told Jack, I said, you know, we come from the same cloth, but I never had someone play on a flag on my field.
32:47Rich Eisen:Yeah, I know. But I saw him on your pod, Cam. I saw him on your pod talking about some play that they'd never run. And it's really – Oh, yeah. Connor Stallions got offended by that, too. That was hilarious. By the way, he could go away and I would never miss anything about him. Okay. But I didn't understand. I didn't understand, though. Maybe you can help me here. So Jack's saying we had never run that play before. Right. And they stopped it because we'd never run it on the, you know. Was he saying they'd never run the play before or just not in that part of the field at that down and distance before?
33:23Rich Eisen:And it was really odd that Michigan was able to stop a play that they had never run before. And I'm like wondering if this was all about shooting someone's sidelines and get the signals to match up with the film of a play that was put on film. How would we have been able to stop a play that they'd never run before? I don't understand. That didn't. I think I think it's a common issue of that. And then the fact that there was a check to that one. OK. And so. But a play that never run before. You have a check for it. That's interesting. But they never run it before. so why would there be a check for something they hadn't seen or hadn't hired somebody to sit in a seat to shoot someone else's sideline to correspond with that play the hand signal so you'd know what to check to i don't understand all i know is you should have been on the documentary for netflix when they were exploring connor stallion's point of view oh my god i am i'm happy to push back on any point of view on this front cam you know so i'm happy to come on up how about you bring jack on and I'll be there too.
34:21Rich Eisen:You know what I mean? Okay, I'm with that. Let's do this sort of stuff. You know what I mean? I'm with it. I'm all for Stoking the Fire. Right now I'm wearing the color pants he doesn't have. You know what I mean? That's what I've got on right now. Those are tight pants. It's as gold pants as I've got. So I'm just pointing this stuff out. I always love chatting with you, Cam. I always love chatting with you. I love you too, buddy. Hey, buddy, congrats on year 15. You're feeling good? like we feel great cold tubs and you're good. We're good coming out of, we got to do a cold tub together. How about that?
34:56Oh,
34:56Rich Eisen:Oh, you know, this is an offline conversation,
35:03Rich Eisen:but say hi to everybody out there for me in, in Steeler country. Good to say, I will, I wish I had that game in Ireland, man, but it's going to be, it's going to be Joe Davis and, and Greg Olson on, on for the Fox crew on NFL network. I'll be there. I'll be there as a studio holder in Los Angeles. That's going to be great. That scene's going to be awesome. I know that's down the road and you've got one at a time right now, but enjoy that and we'll chat down the line. Sounds good. I'll take pictures for you. Please do. I'd love it. Send it to us. Cam Hayward, everybody, fresh off of a 1-0 start in New Jersey, getting ready for the Seattle Seahawks right here on the Rich Eisen Show.
35:36Rich Eisen:There goes Cam. All right. There goes Cam. Hopefully he'll be able to focus against Seattle after the results of Saturday's Buckeyes game against Ohio.
35:50Rich Eisen:Hopefully Grambling didn't take a lot out of him. I mean, are we slagging on the schedule? It's week two. Oh, yeah, yeah. Hopefully they'll fight through it. But, hey, we're taking on Central Michigan at home. And we'll see if Connor Stallions is dressed up on their sidelines, like back in the day. See, I'm taking a shot at myself. You think they'll let him come up for the coin toss? Dude, I never want to see him again, ever. Too bad. You're wearing that forever. You guys have a lot in common. You're both Michigan men. Oh, is that right? Very good. Let's take a break. Let's take a break. You know how we keep talking about the scale of pettiness?
36:31Rich Eisen:Yeah, you and Ohio State belongs on this scale. That's true. We can put that on the scale of petty. On the petty scale. There is a game that few people are talking about on the week two schedule that is going up the petty scale chart that we're about to unveil. Finally, we keep talking about it. We finally made a chart of where things stand on a scale of pettiness. Nice. That's next. This is the Rich Eisen Show on a Friday.
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38:19Rich Eisen:That's how far that went. That's right, yeah. All right, 844-204-RICH is the number to tell on this program. By the ball guys. This is a game that a lot of people have not been talking about. And it's a nasty rivalry. A nasty rivalry. It's the Ravens and the Cleveland Browns. and part of the reason why it's nasty, I think we all know, 30 years ago, the Ravens came into being after 30-plus years ago, they used to be the Cleveland Browns. Art Modell moves the team to Cleveland and tells the Browns, you keep the records, we're just starting from scratch, but we're no longer in Cleveland, Ohio anymore.
39:07Rich Eisen:And the Ravens are celebrating their 30th anniversary in Baltimore. And they're doing it Sunday. And guess who their opponent is? Who could it be? The Cleveland Browns. Hey.
39:25Rich Eisen:Now then, we have a scale on this program that we've been talking about that we now have a graphic support for. It's the Petty Scale. Yeah. Okay. if we have that device. There it is. It's the Petty scale. And the way it works is the most Petty is Richard Petty. And then slightly down from the most Petty is Tom Petty. Because Richard's the king. And then right in the middle is Richard's son Kyle. Right? And then actress Lori Petty. That's who that is. That's Lori Petty. I think Lori would I prefer a better description of her. And then the least petty is good old Bryce Petty. Jets fans may remember Bryce Petty back in the day.
40:17Rich Eisen:That's the petty scale. Before we get to the petty scale on this, there's the players who really weren't born at all when the Cleveland-Baltimore thing flipped. When the Mayflower trucks came through in the middle of the night? Well, that's Indianapolis, sir. That was Baltimore losing its team to Indianapolis. Leaving a void in Baltimore that the city filled with Cleveland's franchise. And the league decided to give Cleveland its franchise back. Yada, yada, yada. You're also a teacher, Rich. You're also a teacher. Here we are, 30 years later, celebrating. In a game that the players just don't like each other at all.
40:58Rich Eisen:It's division rivals where you see that's always nasty. Jerry Judy was asked the challenges that he should face as a wide receiver with the Baltimore secondary. Here's his response. Baltimore secondary, I don't know what the other one is back there. What are the challenges that that represents to you guys? No challenges. How do you feel about the fact that you're going into Baltimore's$10.99? You know, that's disrespectful. for about at the end of the day. If they think Baltimore could beat us like that, we're going to have to prove another thing. We've got to do our job and do our best to win the game.
41:41Okay. And one last sound bite to submit
41:48Rich Eisen:about just how petty this game might get on Sunday. Grant Delpit. Let's ask Grant what it's going to take to tackle Derrick Henry. Roll it. How hard is he to bring down? Not hard. Grant, I mean, going back to that, we saw it last year. You obviously were afraid in that first matchup to take him on. So where does that come from? Is that a mindset? I mean, he's playing football, man. It's tackle football. If somebody got the ball, you got to bring him down. All right, so somebody brought this to Derrick Henry's attention. Oh. By the way, not hard to tackle? Apparently not. That guy? Interesting.
42:26Rich Eisen:Derrick Henry, your thoughts? Derrick, did you get a chance to see Grant Delpit? You said that you're not hard to tackle. Do you have a reaction? I mean, I saw that. I saw his coach had a tweet, I mean a quote, and he had a quote. We'll see on Sunday. We'll see on Sunday. It'll get handled when it gets handled. Yeah, right? It'll get handled when it gets handled. He'll get handled when he gets handled. Oh, the Raiders felt the wrath of that. Oh, man. Why would you poke Derrick Henry? How tough is it to tackle Derrick? Well, okay. Let's take this one at a time. On the petty scale, first item up for bids is the Ravens holding their 30th anniversary celebration of moving to Baltimore from Cleveland with Cleveland in their house.
43:20Rich Eisen:interestingly enough with Joe Flacco making his first start for the Ravens in Baltimore since he was a Raven. Now before you answer, Mary Kay Cabot asked the Ravens about all this stuff. Okay. She covers the Browns. And they responded saying that planning for the 30th season began last year. They pegged the home opener as the official kickoff of the anniversary celebration just so happened. the schedule makers are the ones who put the Browns in their house on the day they had planned to celebrate. So the league did this. I mean, no, they were making their plans and then the league decided to, it was just at random.
44:02Rich Eisen:Sure. Sure it was. Just random. Cool, cool, cool, cool. Just want to let you know. Yeah, sure. Why not? All the information. Now, where does this stand on the petty scale? Is it the biggest petty? Is it the richer petty? Is it the king of petty? The Ravens don't make the schedule, and if we are to take them at their word that they were planning this over a year ago before the 2025 schedule was out. Got to go Tom, right? Tom Petty? No, no, no. I don't think this has anything to do. I'm going bottom. I'm going Bryce. Bryce Petty. This is Bryce Petty. Yeah, the Ravens had nothing to do with this.
44:40Rich Eisen:No fingerprints on it. I'm going to believe them. RES Consulting is coming up with Bryce Petty. I'm going to go Laurie Petty. Oh, okay. You can't take the Petty out of this. I mean, because here's the deal. They knew that they wanted to have a celebration, but somewhere deep into their mind, they probably knew that, you know, we're going to get this year. I mean, it was a one in nine chance. Yeah. So I'm going to put it on. So Steve Bichotti called the league like, hey, give us the Browns. I don't think it went that far off the chain of command. Well, I think we're going to have a Richard Petty if we keep going with this, because someone's going to get the Petty in that.
45:14Rich Eisen:the league. Where does Jerry Judy's comment that there's no challenges? Now that's funny. That's Tom. That's Tom? Not full Richard King petty? Not full, but it's pretty disrespectful. TJ? See, I don't think that he was being petty, so I'm going to give him Kyle on the petty side. That's right in the middle. No, I'm going with you with Tom. Yeah, it's pretty like I washed the table. Okay. Grant Delpit poking the bear. I don't think there's I'm going to go Bryce Petty on that. I don't think it's Petty. I think it's just like it's football. I'm a man. He's a man. We're two men trying to meet at the same point of attack.
45:53Rich Eisen:He knew what he was saying, so I'll go Laurie. Now, guys, if we had a is this a smart thing to say skill, then that would be high. That would be off the chart. I don't think there's a rating for that. No, that wasn't smart. We're off that chart. I don't think that was Petty. I'm with you, Rich. Don't worry, Petty from Point Break fame, obviously. But Ravens versus Browns is Richard Petty, right? Oh, just in general. All of it together. In general. Every time they face off, boom, the king. That matchup was petty by the league. Derrick Henry's response? Oh, no, that's not petty at all. That's just like.
46:27Rich Eisen:I'm Derrick Henry, and who the hell is this guy? It is essentially what, you know, you read about somebody walks into a situation, they try to get out of it, and they say, don't you know who I am? Right. Which is embarrassing when you're trying to be above the fray. But I think in this case, Derrick Henry reminding everyone of his credentials is valid in his response to be straight up. The Rich Eisen Show podcast. Close your eyes. Exhale. Feel your body relax and let go of whatever you're carrying today. Well, I'm letting go of the worry that I wouldn't get my new contacts in time for this class.
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Rich breaks down the Green Bay Packers’ dominant win over the Washington Commanders on Thursday Night Football to kick off NFL Week 2.
Steelers DT Cam Heyward and Rich discuss Aaron Rodgers’ 4-TD debut as Pittsburgh’s starting QB, what hard-hitting CB Jalen Ramsey brings to the team’s defense, his new incentives-laden contract, Micah Parsons trade from the Dallas Cowboys to the Green Bay Packers and why hold-outs and hold-ins are a necessary part of the NFL, and engages in some early-season Ohio State-Michigan trolling ahead of their annual rivalry game in November.
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