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1:35Rich Eisen:Into the end zone. That's two for Trevion Henderson. Live from the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles. Trevion Henderson, a hat trick. Today's guests. Seven-time Pro Bowl linebacker Terrell Suggs. NFL Network insider Tom Pelissero. Actor Tracy Lentz. And now, Rich Eisen. Well, hey, everybody. Welcome to this edition of the Rich Eisen Show on a Friday. One game already into week number 11 of the National Football League season. We'll hit that in a moment. T. Sizzle is making his way to our studio. A guy who's got some Hall of Fame credentials, to say the least. Terrell Suggs is going to be joining us in about 19 minutes' time.

2:20Rich Eisen:And then Tom Pellicero will join us in the middle of our number two before another in-studio guest, the actor Tracy Letts, who's in a phenomenal new movie out on Netflix called A House of Dynamite. He is dynamite in everything that he does. You've seen him in the big short Ford versus Ferrari, just to name a couple. He's in the lowdown as well, and he's going to join us in studio in hour number three. He was also in the Festivus episode of Seinfeld. So we've got a lot to talk about with him on a show that Tom Pellicero will join us in the middle of. It's a What's More Likely Friday as well. and to be honest with you we're we're going to be fighting through adversity on this program um it's it's raining in southern california so when that happens it's like it's like 10 inches of snow and um you know just light a candle i i guess tj jefferson's already done that because he's here with us chris brockman how are you rich you already know i am now we're nine and two we're the best team in football what's going on jason feller how are you sir good to see you here good to see you uh tj jefferson as i mentioned the candle has already lit good to see you sir how you guys doing i'm doing fine we're all good in this neighborhood 844-204-rich is the number to dial um in a way that uh chris brockman just said uh so uh respectfully and completely with uh full knowledge that uh he sounds like an idiot um but it's also the type of thing that you can say true you can call it stupid you want but true the the new england patriots are nine and two i mean that's And what they have done is truly remarkable.

3:54Rich Eisen:What they have done now, as we are sitting here one game into week 11, we are sitting here waiting for the rest of week 11 to play out. And what the New England Patriots have already done is assure themselves of a winning season. And there's no chance this team that has won eight games in a row is going to lose seven in a row and just barely sneak in as an above 500 team. You never know. This team is really, really, really good. And I might be leaving out a really because they are quarterbacked by a wunderkind who is being coached up by a coach of the year candidate and a former NFL head coach who may be one of the best offensive coordinators of the century in Josh McDaniels.

4:45Rich Eisen:and then the front office did such a great job of drafting the last couple of years from drake may's first draft the third overall pick of two years ago and then this year winding up with a left tackle out of lsu will campbell to anchor that line and then let's get him a bunch of fast receivers that we can coach up as well and let's get him the weapons that he needs let's get him drake may situated and let's get the situation prior to the game in the facility in the meeting rooms calmed down with some guys who have done it before been there and done that they tried it with Gerard Mayo as a former player first time head coach now they've done it with a former player previous coach of the year in the league and then let's get him somebody like Stephon Diggs and let's get him a veteran with a chip on his shoulder and a lot to prove let's get that guy and let's bring them all together and let's see how it works and then it started off with a 1-2 record and they have not lost since that week 3L since that week 3L at home against Pittsburgh which they should have won but there were too many fumbles by a guy who after all of the fumbles like Ramondre Stevenson in that game he wasn't the only one but what ended up happening is let's keep using him and let's make sure he is an important part of this team then he gets hurt and then Trevion Henderson from Ohio State, pardon me, the Ohio State, all he does is start scoring touchdowns.

6:40Rich Eisen:And defensively, they're stopping everyone else while Trevion has two on the ground and one in the air. Listen, I don't care that the Jets are a two-win team. You throw the records out, the Jets scored first, as a matter of fact. As a matter of fact, I got me a text from my boy Coop, who is the diehard Patriot fan of the household, saying, Dad, they can't play defense in these uniforms. Can't play defense on the opening drive. That's the sixth touchdown they've given up on the opening drive. Wait a second. Coop's sweating after one half of a series? Yeah, of course. But he also hasn't seen a team like this ever.

7:20Rich Eisen:Honestly, I mean, the 2019 team was 10-1, but he was also a 9-year-old, an 8-year-old. We was focused on it, but even that team, when they were winning with Brady, it seemed to have flaws that we all know a well-coached team could expose. And the team that ended their season in a one-and-done, ended the Brady era in New England, winning in Foxborough, was coached by Mike Vrabel. The Tennessee Titans ended it. This one doesn't seem to have too many flaws, other than the fact that they haven't done it yet. Other than the fact that they have a kid overperforming based on what's expected of a second year player.

8:10Rich Eisen:And seeing somebody like Caleb Williams where it's just like, wow, he's pulling it out in the fourth quarter, but he's missing this. He's missing that. It just seems to be up and it's down. And that's a first overall quarterback drafted two spots before this kid. but that's how you what you do is what ben johnson's attempting to do calm the waters before the game in the meeting rooms get some weapons around which is what ryan poles is trying to do there in chicago and stefan diggs man 11 targets nine catches 105 yards no touchdowns but it doesn't matter when trevion henderson's scoring them all drake may have this to say after the game about Stephon Diggs.

8:51That trust was built up probably when I was in middle school when he was playing in the league. It was long ago. Guys like him and Hunter and Mack, you trust those guys for what they've done in this league. I just try to give them chances and Steph and you break a couple tackles to get in the end zone, but those guys are great for us tonight.

9:10Rich Eisen:If I played that soundbite for you last year at this time, Chris, you'd think Hunter would be Travis, right? Instead of Henry, the tight But it's all working out. Again, Will Campbell's protecting, and the run game is stout, and this kid just sits back there feeling confident. Mack Hollins being another guy that they hired. Stephon Diggs, put it up. Look at these numbers. It's his 15th career 100-yard receiving game in prime time in terms of NFL history. That's tied with Moss, Devontae, and Travis Kelsey. Wow. Only two behind Jerry Rice. that's what you do for your kid is you get a guy under the lights who's there for you i i imagine he'll get a few more chances next year when the patriots play half their games in prime time well chris you know it's just awesome that your role just will not get slowed despite the fact that humility might be called in the equation at least we'll have your coach do that for you there is another game under the lights coming up shortly i imagine that monday night game might not i don't i don't know if they'll flex out of it which they can do but i think time's running short on that there's the g-men on a monday night then who knows what they might flex into otherwise i don't know what's coming up and then there's a buy at cincinnati's next interesting with a coach moving on to cincinnati and it's a totally different story it's because drake may has mvp credentials go ahead and hit it drake how's it feel to uh get those MVP chants and just have people recognize the way you're playing right now.

10:47It was made for Travion tonight. I mean, he scored three touchdowns. So, you know, I think it's, you know, our friends have, you know, been great with, you know, me since I got here. So I got drafted. And I think I just appreciate them for, you know, embracing me. You know, just trying to embrace this city and, you know, give these fans and this team and, you know, just myself, just leave it all out there and give me everything I got.

11:08Rich Eisen:I love his humility. Just like maybe it's Travion Anderson. No, it's you, young man. It is you. It seems like every week after the Patriots win, we have this sort of stuff to show you another metric as to why he's the MVP of the league and why he's going to win it. Check it out. In terms of most consecutive games in a season with a passer rating of 80 or better in a win, he's now tied Lamar's MVP first MVP season of 2019 with eight of those in a row. He's two behind Dan Marino's MVP season of 1984. to get a win with a passer rating of 80 or better. He's awesome. And the fans there in New England.

11:50Rich Eisen:I mean, Coop's got his Pat the Patriot style Drake made jersey. The 10 jerseys are everywhere right now, and it's not Mac Jones. There was even a guy during the Prime video postgame show who was a security guard, pulled open a slicker, and there was his 10 underneath it as well. I could see it behind them. They're just out of their skull. I don't know if you caught this on any of your socials. Drake May's wife apparently has a TikTok account where she's cooking and talking about recipes. And the responses are all fans. Like, you know, Drake will love this. Please make sure you rub his belly after he eats it to ensure proper digestion.

12:33Rich Eisen:Oh, man, I'm so excited for Drake May to have these. It's just basically take care of Drake. Please keep our sweet king well-fed and rested. Is that one at the bottom? I love it. For the sick, he is the cure. For the blind, he is the light. Who is Drake May? For the hungry, he is bread. I didn't know you had a TikTok account, Brockman. I mean, they are falling head over heels for this guy. And again, it's his humility taking his cue from the head coach who, as you know, when we had Mike Vrabel on about three weeks ago in the middle of this winning streak, he's like you know what we're not hanging any banners that sort of stuff oh a banner is getting raised this year okay go ahead and hit it Mike.

13:19What did you make of his performance tonight and his performance in general en route to your record? I would say his performance in general has been

13:26Rich Eisen:you know what we expect and we have high expectations for Drake he has high expectations for himself he'll continue to improve and know that he'll stay humble and like i told him i'm excited we're nine and two i'm excited that i don't have to see him till monday that's it i just wonder how much more you guys are going to keep dismissing this like i tried to tell you over a month ago that may would be in the nvp picture and now he's the favorite every week i need to see more i'm not dismissing they go on the road in buffalo and win they go in tampa and win all these teams that you guys think are making the super bowl And now I suggest in a joking manner that you're not joking, that you could raise a banner this year.

14:08Rich Eisen:And you guys are just like, come on. What more do you need to see? I'm not, you're, you're what I'm dismissing is your dismissiveness and lack of humility. That's what I'm dismissing, but that's you be, you want me to do? I'm a fan and we've been, we've been absolute dog crap for years and all these other teams that you, everyone thought we're going to win Super Bowls, had a chance and they didn't win it. And now their window is closed because guess what? The Pats got another dude and everyone just can't handle it. No, no. What they can't handle is you jamming it in everybody's face. That's what they can't handle.

14:42Rich Eisen:And what would you do if it was your team? The exact same thing. You'd be jamming it in everyone's face. Because your teams have been losers for so long and you don't know what it's like. I haven't said anything yet. And by the way. You're laughing too, man. I'm laughing at you. Exactly. But that's okay. You laugh all you want. That's fine. And listen, it dismissed the fact that I've spent the first 10 minutes of this show talking about how this is a humble kid who is an MVP candidate. I have a vote for it. And at this point in time, he'd be my vote. You can't say that out loud. Absolutely. I can say that I can talk about I can handicap this.

15:16Rich Eisen:I'm not going to say who I'm voting for until it's over when it's time to vote. But right now, how can you deny that this kid is not the most valuable player? This kid is this team is not nine and two. This kid is not doing anything that is normal. This is actually what it looks like, is exactly like once again, except he didn't get the job in his second year because of the injury to the$100 million contracted quarterback. He didn't get the job and having to have a coach believe in him to say, we're still sticking with you, and then watching them win after game, after game after game that nobody expected until they made the super bowl and then he goes on a game-winning drive when nobody expected them to even attempt that and tom brady then had his hands on his head looking at his family like i can't believe what's happening to my life this has that same feel to it because they're opportunistic every single time they are well coached to 100 percent get the football from you you're this situationally brilliant and they've got people all over the place that you don't even know play football until they catch passes or score touchdowns but don't listen to me saying that just start barking about how you're gonna hang banners like nothing can go wrong it seems like it's all nothing can go wrong it just seems like it's all backhanded it's not but how is it backhanded i put them as a top team in my in the afc in the power rankings yeah but it seems like you're doing it begrudgingly no like you go that's a you thing i can't believe i have to put them this high how no the only reason why i'm saying that is nobody saw it coming the fact that an eight game win streak it's it's remarkable why can't you just be happy why do you have to be the guy of saying we're hanging banners there's no way this is not going to happen.

17:11Rich Eisen:There's no such things as injuries. There's no such things as anything that can possibly happen. It's not like you haven't seen any of that stuff. I haven't said any of that, actually. What I'm just saying is there's no argument. They are the best team in the AFC. I have no problem saying it. There's nothing backhanded about it. All I have done is spend the first now 15 minutes of this program talking about how terrific they are. And I'm not even saying, well, the Jets stink so badly. They should be doing that. I like the coach saying when it's like, what is your assessment of Drake May's play?

17:44Rich Eisen:His answer is we expect it. We expect it. And the rest of the world can sit around and say this has been unexpected. And he can sit there and say this has not only been expected. This performance is expected. And from here on out, we expect it. In the meantime, I'm just happy I don't have to see him till Monday. great answer why would you know no but no listen if if if that's the way you want to come to work and we talk about this every single week i will just say to you to your face in front of the entire simulcast world i have zero problems with any of this this is a great story this is a likable kid this is a franchise that everybody thought was finished because tom brady was gone and they have retooled in a way that is in fact the envy of the rest of the league that's trying to retool including the team that they destroyed and on occasion embarrassed last night in front of the owner who's got to be sitting there going we just hired our own former player here when is this going to turn for us when are we going to find a quarterback is that does that is that compute honestly there's no reason to even have an argument about it it's just a terrific team that a lot of fans are over the moon about you one of them rightfully included if i could though if we were in that position right chris knowing chris the way i know chris would say this.

19:22The Dolphins, the Panthers, the Saints, the Titans, the Browns, the Jets. They combined I think have 13, 14 wins. So it would be like whoever they beat. That's what you would say at this position. That's fair.

19:36Rich Eisen:And here's my response though. You gotta win the game, right? Ask the Carolina Panthers who were trying to turn things around with their first overall drafted quarterback. How did it work out against the Saints at home last week? They lost. How did it look for the Giants after they started Jackson Dart and he beat this Los Angeles Chargers and they go into New Orleans? How did it look for him? It's because you always go up and you go down. It's not always this flat out, straight up in the air trajectory. It doesn't happen. You don't see it too often. You don't see it ever. But you're seeing it now out of New England.

20:16Rich Eisen:And it doesn't matter. How many games did you guys win last year? Eight in the last two years. Yeah, they now have nine this year and eight in the last eight games. I'll be honest, I don't want to see it. Okay, because I don't want to have to go through another Patriots run. But Drake May is so likable, and he's so humble, and he's so good. He's so good. You just give him a couple of minutes of your time to just watch how, if he gets a couple of seconds, he's going to dissect you. you're right you do have that dude you've got a dude you've got one of the dudes in the league and it's now you know gonna be if they take on kansas city drake may versus well you have drake may versus josh allen twice a year and again the dolphins thought they had that dude they're waiting to see if two it could still be that dude because he's being paid like one and the jets we'll talk about that on this program it's it's it's a brutal two and eight start for them for them is t sizzle here oh fantastic let's get to our guest terrell suggs is here the baltimore ravens legend t sizzle when we come back

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22:49Rich Eisen:NMLS 696891. Fast funds terms apply at SoFi.com slash debt play. The Rich Eisen Show podcast. 17 year veteran. Terrell Suggs is here on the program. Do you know how many career sacks you had? Yeah, they just told me 139. 139. 139, yeah. That's a pretty good number. It's a pretty good number. I mean, it's not, you know, Bruce Smith's 200 or Reggie White's 198. Julius Pepper's 150. You know what I'm saying? 139 is pretty damn good, if I may add the damn for you. It's pretty good. Does one sack stand out amongst the 139 of them? Yeah. Which one? Yeah, definitely. I would say opening day 2011 against the Pittsburgh Steelers, against our division rivals, they had just knocked us out of the playoffs the year before.

23:45So, you know, we're itching. You know what I'm saying? And opening day, Haloti was like, we called a stunt, and Haloti made me do something different. He was like, come under me this time. He was like, I'm not going to go under. And so it was really Haloti, like, designed it. I come up under him, sack, knock the ball out. It's kind of like, I want to say, I would say my signature sack on Ben Roethlisberger. It's my favorite one. Ball comes out and the crowd goes crazy. And it was just, it was a beautiful day. Was that your favorite quarterback to sack? Absolutely. Especially in Hinesville. You know, besides my own stadium, playing in Pittsburgh was my favorite place to play because I was the villain.

24:27I got to be the bad guy, man. And there's not a greater feeling in the world to, you know, be the number one hated guy on your rivals, you know, field.

24:37Rich Eisen:So, yeah, I'm just trying to recall. You weren't really a superhero well-loved in Foxborough Stadium. No, I'm not. I'm not really liked up there either. What about Brady? I mean, Zach and Brady. I mean, he's the GOAT. It's always good to get up, you know, against, you know, arguably the greatest quarterback, you know, and the pretty boy. You know, the guy dates all the supermodels. It's always good to kind of, you know, beat up on that guy. You know what I mean? because he has everything. He's got the money. He's got the girl. He's got the rings. I mean, it's good to knock him around a little bit, but I'm pretty sure he got the numbers on me as far as our battles.

25:08I think I'm going to beat Brady maybe twice.

25:11Rich Eisen:Well, we just had a very lively chat in the first segment of our program because it sure looks like the Patriots are back. It looks like they're back. And it just doesn't look like, oh, well, you know what? It's a nice little winning streak you got there. Eight wins in a row in this league is serious. It's serious. That's serious. So who do you credit? Do you credit the quarterback or do you credit Brable? Who do you think? Well, I mean, we're not going to go down this Brady-Belichick road again, are we? How about both, man? I like that. You know how this works. Listen, you know how it works in our media where it's got to be one or the other.

25:43Rich Eisen:There's no such thing as an in-between. Right. It's not as if, you know, Brady might not have existed at Belichick not said, we're sticking with you. Okay. And then Brady made the most of his opportunity and then maybe brought Belichick along at certain points in time. I mean, right? Because now, how does it the fact that May is doing this right now with Vrabel, how about both of them? How about that? That's a good argument. Am I allowed to say that in this media world? I would say, you know, remember it's got to be the players that got to go out there and do it. You know what I'm saying? I guess you could argue because Coach kind of brings the atmosphere, the tradition and the tenacity, especially his reputation there, playing there.

26:29So, yeah, you can give it to both of them.

26:33Rich Eisen:Terrell Suggs here on the Rich Eisen Show. Let's talk about the Ravens right now. Yeah. Because 1-5, even at 1-5, it looked like this team still wasn't out of it. Yeah. Even though they were two and a half games behind the Steelers. And now here we are. Here we are. One game separates the two. Yeah. Yeah, it was scary at first. You know, at first, I'm pretty sure a lot of people had for sale signs in front of their house. You know what I mean? Like, it's not a one in five in that city. Nobody is secure. You know what I'm saying? Even John Harbaugh? And unfortunately, when they look at one in five, everybody, they're going to look at everybody.

27:14We got to see where the slippage is happening. You know what I'm saying? But once we saw the rest of the schedule, the way we figured out after the 1-5 start, you need seven of nine. You need seven of your last nine games. And it's not impossible. It's doable. But we'll see. And we also got to play the team to the west of us twice. We still got to play them twice. You can't say the word stealers? I can say the word stealers. Did you just go like Ohio State or Michigan? You know, I love playing those guys. You know what I'm saying? So I can say the word Steelers, but, you know, every time you talk about the rivalry, it's just the old sizzle comes back.

27:58You know what I mean? Just the old feeling. But, yeah, we still got to play the Steelers twice. We still got to deal with T. Higgins and Jamar Chase twice and one of our former, like one of our own guys, and he's playing pretty well now. So it's not, like I said, it's not impossible. You know what I'm saying? It's doable, but it's going to be tough.

28:18Rich Eisen:Well, some old school stuff to talk about with you right now. Yeah, let's get into it. Well, you were there when Lamar showed. That was your last year in Baltimore. Was it obvious at the time? No. It was not. He was the most athletic guy there. You know what I'm saying? But he hasn't, you know, it was his first year. He hasn't had like all the quarterback and, you know what I'm saying, kind of the NFL quarterback bravado right off the bat. You know what I'm saying? but that jump he made like I couldn't have called that like he went from you know not starting right off the bat and then the next year being the league MVP running the most games ever in team history you know what I'm saying he won 14 games I was like no I did not see that you know what I'm saying so but yeah like he was always faster and more athletic than everybody else on the team but they made the move to him in your final year yeah what was that like It was nervous because, you know, a lot of us were, we knew it was like our last year.