Hour 1: Power Rankings:  Players with most to prove,  Michael Irvin talks Cowboys, Michael Irvin & Linda Fletcher talk Fetching Fletchers

2 Sep 2026 · 47 min · 13 chapters

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In short

Power Rankings Wednesday—Michael Irvin ranks NFL players/coaches “with the most to prove” for the 2026 season (SoFi). He also discusses the Dallas Cowboys’ offseason culture shift, then runs a projected Cowboys win-loss schedule. Later, Irvin introduces and interviews Linda Fletcher about “Fetching Fletcher’s,” her RV road-trip following her son Mark Fletcher Jr. (Miami RB), which premiered Monday on YouTube.

Guests/backgrounds

Michael Irvin (Pro Football Hall of Famer; Cowboys legend; Irvin’s production company created Fetching Fletcher’s). Linda Fletcher (mother of Mark Fletcher Jr.; drives an RV to road games; runs a moms community at the University of Miami). Also present: Dana White (UFC president, to be interviewed in hour two) and Baker Mayfield (joins in hour two).

Key claims/examples

Irvin’s top “most to prove” list: 10 DJ Moore, 9 Zach Taylor, 8 Falcons QBs (Tua/penix), 7 Sean Mannion, 6 Marvin Harrison Jr., 5 Jaden Daniels, 4 George Pickens, 3 Malik Willis, 2 Deshaun Watson, 1 Kyler Murray. Cowboys are “100% improved” defensively and “together” in camp due to Pickens; he cites Pickens stopping Rams players from watching Cowboys sprints. Win-loss prediction: Cowboys finish 13-4, including wins over Giants, Ravens (in Rio), and Rams; loss to Seattle. Fetching Fletcher’s includes an RV tracker at FetchingFletchers.com and highlights like scoring vs Ohio State.

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Upcoming Guests and Show Highlights

1:44 to 3:40

Rich previews the show's guests and what to expect in the upcoming hours.

“That's right, can't confirm it, it's me.”

Power Rankings Concept Introduction

3:40 to 4:56

Rich introduces the idea of power rankings for players under pressure.

“Del Tufo's going to be jealous of you today.”

Power Rankings: Players with Most to Prove

4:56 to 7:20

Rich starts detailing his power rankings of NFL players with significant expectations.

“Are you going to do it right when the season starts?”

Detailed Power Rankings Discussion

7:20 to 12:20

Rich continues discussing specific players and their pressure to perform this season.

“I can be a guy who, if Josh Allen wins most valuable player and this team goes to the Super Bowl, I raise my hand and say, I stepped up my game.”

Final Rankings and Player Insights

12:20 to 14:00

Rich wraps up the power rankings and provides insights on the last players mentioned.

“The last wide receiver on this list, and it's your guy.”

Power Rankings of Players with Most to Prove

14:00 to 16:30

Discussion on players with significant stakes in the upcoming season, focusing on Malik Willis, Deshaun Watson, and Kyler Murray.

“If he doesn't, Dolphins might be in that mix for a quarterback in next year's draft.”

Michael Irvin and Fetching Fletchers

16:30 to 19:05

Michael Irvin arrives and discusses his new show Fetching Fletchers, featuring his support for Mark Fletcher.

“Some others I was thinking of putting on the list.”

Dana White and Michael Irvin's Conversation

21:04 to 28:01

Michael Irvin reminisces about his relationship with Dana White and discusses player leadership and team culture.

“I used to go to fights with Dana White, hang with him in his room.”

Analyzing the Cowboys' Roster

28:01 to 29:44

Discussion on player selections and their impact on the Cowboys' performance.

“And listen, I appreciate Coach mentioning me.”

Evaluating the Cowboys' Prospects

29:45 to 31:36

Insight into the Cowboys' competitiveness within the NFC and team improvements.

“for the last, I would say, 20-something years, and this is real, there were some good teams with potential to be great that Jerry would come out in summer and try and sell.”
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Building Team Chemistry and Goals

31:37 to 33:39

The importance of team unity and setting offensive goals for the Cowboys.

“All of it, all of it cannot get lost in the fact that everybody was in training camp, thanks to George Pickens.”

Predicting the Cowboys' Season Wins

33:40 to 39:26

Michael Irvin goes through the Dallas Cowboys' schedule predicting wins and losses.

“And we got to have times to make those promises to each other so we can make that call in the huddle.”

Linda Fletcher Discusses Family and Community

42:42 to 47:22

Linda Fletcher shares her experiences supporting her son's football journey and the community of mothers she's building.

“For over 28 years, they've helped fund pediatric cancer research, raising more than$303 million and supporting over 40 ,000 children.”
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1:46Rich Eisen:This dude is a freaking animal. This is the Rich Eisen Show. The buck stops here. Essentially, that's what I'm saying. Live from the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles, today's guests, Pro Football Hall of Famer Michael Irvin, Buccaneers quarterback Baker Mayfield, UFC president Dana White, five-time Grammy Award winner Michael Buble, and now it's Rich Eisen. That's right, can't confirm it, it's me. My name is Rich Eisen. 844-204-RICH is the number to dial. I'm going to speak straight up with everybody, whether you're watching on Disney Plus and the ESPN app or listening on ESPN Radio, Sirius XM, Channel 80, or you're taking in this show via podcast later on.

2:34Rich Eisen:Two words. Buckle up. I think that's fair, yeah. Yeah, because Michael Irvin's hanging with us in the entirety of the show. Yeah, boy. And he just landed at LAX. He just texted me. He's in a car. I heard him. Yeah, he could probably, yeah. Or it could be like the Flintstones. You could hear his feet on the bottom, you know, of the road. You have talked to him. What do you mean, about being here? I have not spoken a word with him. No, he texted me in the car. He's here. He's coming. Okay, great. All right. You know Liz is on. And he's going to help me interview Dana White in hour two. And then in hour three, Michael Buble is going to be zooming in to talk fantasy football.

3:18Rich Eisen:We are hoping that when O'Shea Jackson Jr. arrives for No Contest Wrestling's, wait for it, 100th episode later today with Becky Lynch in studio. Yes, sir. With the two of you gents. We'll hook Irv up with O'Shea as well together. Why not? And that's when the buckling happens. Oh, by the way, Baker Mayfield joins us too. What a day, what a day. Let's go. It's Erica. So that's what's up. That is. And wherever you are. that's what's up yeah just hang with us and it's going to be awesome and it's going to be one of those where we in the studio all look at each other and go that was three hours we've had a few of those we're going to have another one of those tomorrow when Mark Wahlberg is in studio for much of our three with us for his new film by any means so long story short it's going to be a fun good time good to see you over there hey Rich what's up man Jason Fuller.

4:15Rich Eisen:Hey, what up? Del Tufo's going to be jealous of you today. Why now? Because he's missing today. He's missing today. I know. Shout out, Hoskins, for my new Raiders flag. And so, good to see you, TJ. Candles lit 100th episode of No Contest Wrestling. Mazel tov to you and O'Shea Jackson. Thank you. Good times. I hope I used that right. You did. You did. I'm a man to the people. You know that. It is a power rankings Wednesday. Oh, here we go. I can't do a regular power ranking of NFL like which team's the best. Well, it is too early because next week next Wednesday is when you do it. Are you going to do it right when the season starts?

4:59Rich Eisen:Yes. Why would I do it now? I don't know. Just like his fantasy football league. He doesn't mess with me. I wait to the last second. That is crazy. I'm a last second guy. I'm a last second guy. So our weekly power rankings of NFL teams starts next week. so I'm going with something you kind of you dig this sort of stuff you dig about there's two things you love talking about who's under the most pressure I do love those and then you like who's got something to prove and those two kind of meet you know what I mean because it's who's most pressured to prove something so I kind of giving you and others of your ilk of which there are many.

5:43Rich Eisen:I know. What you want. Thank you. I'm a crowd pleaser. All right. What I like about you. So my power rankings of the most to prove. Let's go. In the 2026 National Football League season brought to you by SoFi.

6:05This is my power rankings. There are many like it, but this one is mine. Power Rankings.

6:11Rich Eisen:Okay. Okay. You ready for this one? Got my J-Fally pen. I'm going to write this down. Yeah. Because there's a cowboy on this line. Oh. A cowboy on every list. I get it. There's a bad list. All right. Power Rankings of the most approved in this upcoming National Football League season. Brought to you by SoFi. Number 10. I'm going with a wide receiver here. He's proven a lot already in his career. in his two previous stops. This one, however, with all due respect to the quarterbacks in his previous stops, this one, he's got himself a Rolls Royce on top of a Maybach, on top of a Lamborghini thrown at him.

6:58Rich Eisen:These are all Dajon Love's cars. And he is the guy. Everybody says this quarterback, oh, if he only had a number one. He did have Stephon Diggs for a while. But now Josh Allen's got DJ Moore, and I think DJ Moore's got something appropriate. Oh, interesting. I can be the wide receiver one here in Buffalo. I can be a guy who is top 10 wide receivers. I can be a guy who, if Josh Allen wins most valuable player and this team goes to the Super Bowl, I raise my hand and say, I stepped up my game. I'm DJ Moore, and I should have my name in the mix of all the elite receivers in the National Football League.

7:38Rich Eisen:I put him in there at 10. Number nine. I'm putting the coach of the Cincinnati Bengals. Yeah. Zach Taylor. I just players here. Well, let's go. Let's go. All right. Because Burrow, knock on loose side here. He's entering the season healthy. Jamar Chase gave us a scare, but he says he's ready to go. Did he ever. T. Higgins, Chase Brown, ready to go. They got Dexter Lawrence. His 10th overall pick sent to New York for that. Pardon me. Sent to New Jersey. Don't want to piss off Bills fans for saying DJ Moore is under the glass for having to prove. I'm putting Zach Taylor here because this team has high expectations.

8:25Rich Eisen:Joe Burrow says it's now or never. And if the never happens, I think the coach will be on a seat that despite the franchise's history, I think he's got to prove I'm that guy from our season when the NFL held the Super Bowl in SoFi the last time. Number eight. I'm putting pretty much anybody who plays quarterback for Atlanta. Tua and Penix. The Falcons, QBs. Jack Strand. All right, seriously. Like Tua, he starts week one. Okay, man. Do you have a lot of proof? Because the memes. Oh, my God. Did you guys see the mashup of Tua fumbling the snap again in the preseason game in Miami? Mashed up with the longest yard remake moment.

9:17Rich Eisen:Oh, man. Speaking of Michael Irvin being here. About you go on out there. You're our guy. And then fumble the snap. Okay. Did you see the Instagram thing about him maybe switching burn? Yeah. Yeah, and that, you know, his Instagram accounts, you know, put up a photograph of him, like, and good luck, you know, ready for the season, and then... The first comment. The first comment was from him saying, love you, Tua. Great job, you deserve it. Goodness gracious. And then there's panics. If he gets in there, let's go. Right? The three guys in front of him and one of the guys after him have already had terrific seasons in their careers.

9:57Rich Eisen:Number seven. I will not put Jalen Hurts on this list. I will not do it. I won't do it. Not going to do it. So I'm putting Sean Mannion on the list. The offensive coordinator of the Philadelphia Eagles. Hey, Sean, it's your time in the barrel, man. And now, hey, Kellen Moore, his time in the barrel, he's got a headset on for the Saints. Hey, Shane Steichen. his time in a barrel he's got a headset on for indianapolis so those two guys it's an every other year thing it's now your year sean and what are you gonna what like what's the play calling gonna look like what's going on no aj brown all that stuff and it's in his hands he's got to prove that he's got the eagles in the right hands and if not a lot of long-time listeners first-time callers lighting up phone lines.

10:53Rich Eisen:WIP. Number six. This wide receiver. It's time. I mentioned all those cars before. It's time for Maserati to come out of the garage here and look like the kid from the Ohio State. It's time. TJ's boy. You know what I mean? Rich, I put this dude in the Hall of Fame when he was a sophomore. So I agree. That's all we heard. Everything we're hearing about Jeremiah Smith now, by the way. We heard about Marv. Oh, my gosh. Everybody at the Pro Days for upperclassmen are looking at this kid. They're already scouting him. So, it's time. It's time to see it. And I think they've got the offensive situation for it.

11:38Rich Eisen:Jacoby Brissett is on my list of most surprising players. But I think Marvin Harrison Jr. is number six on my power rankings of players with most approved. Let's go top five. And this, I could put him higher. I could put him higher but there's only one number five then you could not have put him out of respect out of respect to the Jaden Daniels family I think he's got to prove that last year was just the injuries I think that's up there you know what I'm saying I don't think that's unfair is it He's got to prove year one. That's the Jaden Daniels. That's the Jaden Daniels, not year two. So, number five for you, sir.

12:28Rich Eisen:I salute you. Number four. The last wide receiver on this list, and it's your guy. Uh-huh. All right, George Pickens. I saw you last year. I saw you last year. I saw your franchise tag. I see you playing on that tag. I see you betting on yourself. I see you telling everybody in the Pittsburgh Steelers organization I can be a leader. I can do the routine things routinely, which is what Mike Tomlin said. He was his coaching point back in the day when Pickens was a Georgia Bulldog trying to learn the ropes. I see you, George Pickens. Prove it that you are the man still. Let's see it. George Pickens is number four on my player list of most approved.

13:15Rich Eisen:or not players, those with the most to prove. Number three. You know what I always say about pressure, right? Diamonds. Plus pipes. No, it's just the players under the most pressure. It's like, this could be their last opportunity. Oh, yeah. I thought you meant diamonds were a girl's best. Malik Willis is number three. All right, Malik. Let's talk about one. I understand. I understand that roster might not look as deep on the playmakers as many other quarterbacks have coming into the season. That said, it's your team. We've been waiting for a long time. He has been. Let's go. Kid from Liberty.

13:54Rich Eisen:Making his bones in the league when the Packers say we'll take you from the Titans and put you in some serious high-leverage situations in which he's shined. Let's go, Malik Willis. Prove it. If he doesn't, Dolphins might be in that mix for a quarterback in next year's draft. Or a Lamar Jackson. Oh, yeah. That too. That part, Chris. Number two on the list. Two. Deshaun Watson. Come on. Wow. How is he not number one? Wow. Because I think there's one more high profile. Okay. You know. Deshaun Watson's two. And he may get two weeks in which to prove it. Yeah. You know, because if they're 0-2 and it's the home opener for the Brownies.

14:38Rich Eisen:Nope. Yep. You push that idea. I did. And I push back on you. Until Joe Thomas is like, your guy might be right. So if you and Joe Thomas are saying the same thing, first of all, I hope you don't take that as disrespect. But secondly, if you say it, that's one thing. Joe Thomas says it's another. How many people in your life does Sarah listen to when they say the same thing as you and she doesn't really pay it much mind to you? I don't mean to project my marriage onto yours. You should be. I'll tell something to Susie and she goes, really? And then somebody else, one of her friends will say it.

15:16Rich Eisen:I'm like, that's what I told you. All right. Show sometimes. You told me, then Joe Thomas told me that Deshaun Watson may have two weeks to prove it, so he's number two on the list. I said two? Number one on the list, it's Kyler Murray, man. Oh. It is Kyler Murray. Does he have lots to prove? And does Kevin O 'Connell have a lot of chips at the center of the table with Kyler Murray holding the cards? Oh, baby. with all due respect to everyone else he's played with in Arizona. I mean, what would you say? Hey, Justin Jefferson. Hopkins is the only one that's in the realm of, or in the area code of Justin Jefferson.

15:56Rich Eisen:You know what I mean? Yeah. But he was kind of on the back nine. Somewhat. The Hail Murray was some of the great nuke. It's on a highlight reel of a nuke the bomb highlight reel. That's true. You know, as we talk about for him, for Kent one day. At any rate, this is it, man. and if he proves it, he's getting paid. Oh, is he ever? Paid. That is on the line. You are picking up what I'm putting down, sir. Number one is Connor Murray, and those are my power rankings of the most approved in 2026, brought to you by SoFi. Get your money right. Some others I was thinking of putting on the list. I was toying with Dan Campbell, toying with it.

16:41Rich Eisen:I don't think that's unreasonable. Davis Webb calling plays for Denver with Sean Payton saying here. That's a big one. I also, just for you, I almost put Justin Herbert in January. Nice. You know? Yeah. Almost popped him on there. Brian Thomas Jr. almost cracked this list. Good one. Yeah. John Harbaugh. I don't think he's got him. I mean, come on. John Harbaugh doesn't have anything to prove he does not no sir I mean the giant with anything to prove is Odell something to prove but he's also Odell

17:29Rich Eisen:Cam Ward you know what I don't think he's got not yet I mean it's too soon CJ Stroud I had him down there but if he gets paid what's he got to prove so So TJ, am I missing anything? I was going along with your list, kind of checking it. Checking it twice. You mentioned Herbert. First of all, thank you for not putting like the normal, the usual suspects on here, not the Dax, the Lamars, people like that. But Herbert, like in January, he is nothing to prove until the playoffs. I guess that's then that then the rubbers meet in the road. True. Okay. Speaking of rubber meeting the road, the car that has taken Michael Irvin from the Los Angeles International Airport to the Rich Eisen Show has arrived.

18:17Rich Eisen:Irv is here. Oh, baby. And I believe he has brought a friend with him. and it is Linda Fletcher the mother of Mark Fletcher of the U who is apparently not too thrilled about flying around the country to watch her son play so she drives and Irv and his production company hooked her up with an RV to drive around the country to watch her son play this year and made a show about it and is making one as well And the first episode premiered this past Monday on YouTube. Fetching Fletcher's is the name of that show. So he's here in support of that. And then he's going to hang with us all day long. He's going to help me interview Dana White.

19:05Rich Eisen:Nice. And O'Shea Jackson Jr. And then just hang with us. Yeah, we're predicting the NFC North as well today. I've asked for his. Like an old school game day morning. Is he going to play the win-loss game? For the Cowboys? Let's do it. Maybe we'll have him come out and do that next. Good idea. Michael Irvin here. He's here. You're there. Irv. The playmaker. Coming up next. The Rich Eisen Show podcast.

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21:12Rich Eisen:I love Dana, man. In support of Garcia versus Ben and so much else that's going on in Vegas. Let me get a little more love, man. Michael Irvin here, by the way, our radio audience. Dana believes in me. Dana always believed in me, even back there. Rich, you guys don't know this. Dana used to bring me to Vegas to speak to his fighters. You know, when I came across and got good, he brought me in to speak to his fighters, man. I'm going to tell you, I can't wait. I'm so happy to be here with him here. I've been around so many people who have asked you to speak. Susie and I asked you to speak at Taylor's baby naming just three days after she was born.

21:48Rich Eisen:She just got bat mitzvahed this weekend. It's unbelievable how life works. 13 years ago, we asked you to speak when we were all in Munich. When we were all in Munich, Germany for NFL Network calling. How long ago was that? Oh, man. Had to have been now five years. It was Brady versus Pete Carroll Seahawks. Yeah, that was a great team. And so Pete asked you to break down the Seahawks practice. You did that. You're right. I did speak over there. You sure did. I did. I forgot about that. Pete asked you to speak. Right. At the end of the practice. I just seen the faces of the Seahawks. Oh, Rich, I was right about that.

22:24Rich Eisen:Oh, yeah, man. I was there. Oh, you're right. They were into it. That was great. That was great. Yeah. That was great. It does not surprise me that Dana White asked you to speak to some fighters. All right. Have you heard this soundbite from Brian Schottenheimer just yesterday? Let me hear. He was asked about Aaron Donald returning. I haven't heard. All right. Here we go. Here we go. Keep your ears open, eyes peeled. Michael Irvin, roll it. Yeah, well, I saw a picture of him. He looks pretty good. So he's been training a little differently than I have. But, you know, great player. He's good for the game, you know, and just gives a good team another great player.

23:05But we've got a little time until we have to see him. Who would be your bat phone call? to bring out of retirement if you could, like Sean McVay with Aaron Donald.

23:16I'm going to just take a shot. Now I'm going to go Michael Irvin. He's right here somewhere. Mike, you around? You can never have enough good receivers. That's my guy. Hey, now listen, I love that he threw him out, and that's my guy. He really is a great dude. Him and his wife, beautiful family. you know and rich and i said a whole lot of things even when we were trying to make this decision you know but i really got to know him i'm so happy with the decision that they made what decision when when i'm talking about when they was talking about the heights uh making making a new head coach bringing a higher coach to hire to hire decision to hire him i should say right and and you know because i was like we need somebody from outside coming in to change the whole culture But he has changed the culture there.

24:05And people, you know, he's changed the culture in such a way that I think now, here from here on, it goes different. And I believe, Rich, what has happened is an outsider came in to show everybody how blessed you are to be with the Cowboys. George Pickens making the decision that you just talked about to say, hey wait a minute I've been other places I know how great this is see all other people you guys have never been other places so you just you're spoiled with this but the decision George Pickens made I think is a galvanizing decision decision that says oh we must really have something great if he can go through that all right so there's many different ways to go

24:51Rich Eisen:with what we just heard and everything else let's start with Pickens okay because he had a remarkable season last year yes and it does appear based on what people are saying and what people are reporting and what i'm hearing that he has become a leader like he has been a god he's vocal um and the example people are using is how the players are running sprints on their own after practices after those joint sessions would say the rams here and the rams were kind of having their fun watching the cowboys do that and pickens looked at the rams and say keep your eyes on your own team get out of here.

25:30Rich Eisen:And that may be part of what you're talking about, but Brian Schotner was brought to the equation. And what Piggins has brought to him. What I love about what Coach Schoenheimer has done is when we go over there, because they bring us all in, right? And we all meet with the team and then we break off and do all the meetings. You know, they come in in the morning in the big team room. He brings up a couple guys. They got a basketball goal and a free throw. They start shooting free throws, 30 seconds on the clock. Everybody's yelling. Football, winning football is about playing great late. Making plays, what, under pressure.

26:08Making great plays late under pressure. That's what it's going to be. He's creating all of those moments. Everybody's yelling while you're up. You know, you're nervous. You're trying to win. And you just create those fun moments. I love that. You create competition. you create competition under pressure. Jimmy Johnson used to do it. Clock's running down. Whole team around the ball. We yelling. The kicker got to make this kick. It's not going to be quiet. You can't be out here practicing in the damn quiet. We got to make it difficult so you can get used to difficult and you can be a friend and a real great friend with pressure.

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26:49That's what I love that he does. Okay.

26:51Rich Eisen:So he also said you'd be his call to come out of return. Yeah, that's just. How many snaps? Well, I don't know if I, I don't have any. I got snaps in my heart. I want it, but ain't no snaps in my knees. So I don't know what good is the snaps in my heart if my knees ain't going to play. You know what I'm saying? Let's wave a wand and say the knees. Oh, man. Let's stir it up. Let's stir it up. Hold on a second. Let's stir it up. Let's do it. Let's do it. The knees are fine. Okay, let's just, I now have made your knees fine. If you come out of retirement, if you were to do that, would you take 88 back from C.D.

27:23Rich Eisen:Lamb? No, CD's 88. But nowadays, they kind of let two people wear the same number in the NFL sometimes. No, they don't. In college? Maybe in college. They don't do that. Who wears your college number on the Cowboys? Does anybody? Rich, that's a good idea, Rich. Goodbye. That's a good idea. Right there. That's what I would do. Oh, Rich, you know what? I would go to 47. He would be 80. Oh, my God. Nobody wears 47. Nobody wears 47. Well, nobody down, but, you know, they'll probably give it to somebody because, you know, we don't carry that like we carry the 88. But that's a good idea. I will take that 47.

28:07And listen, I appreciate Coach mentioning me. I believe if we had an opportunity to take any player from the past, I believe you go get a Charles Haley right now because I think you're locked and loaded at wide receiver. So you go get a Charles Haley,

28:29Rich Eisen:that does appear to be, I think, what you just hit on, Michael Irvin. That is the pass rush for the Cavs. Oh, Deion Sanders. Oh, well. That's who I would really go get. You get prime for your back end. That's it. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Stop, stop, stop. Don't go places that ain't going to happen. Stop. What do you mean? Well, Prime would say your knee's his toe. It would be. But you were talking about healthy, man. I go get time, put him on that corner. It's over. With that front and that dude, oh, it's over. It's over. Because now I got, you know, what we're worried about now with the Cowboys is the back end.

29:08We got Caleb Downs to sure it up. And I love this young man, Caleb Downs, because he reminds me a lot of Woodson. Rod Woodson. I mean, Darren Woodson. People don't give Darren Woodson enough credit for the way he covered. You know, and he should be in the Hall of Fame. And this young man reminds me a lot of that. But we had that shut down, don't even think about a corner with that. Then that's what I would say. I appreciate what coach said, but I would take time. So here's the scoop, Irv, because every year with the Cowboys,

29:46Rich Eisen:for the last, I would say, 20-something years, and this is real, there were some good teams with potential to be great that Jerry would come out in summer and try and sell. And it would be sometimes I would see, here's some flim-flam. You know what I mean? Like a little P.T. Barnum, some of that stuff. There were other times where obviously they could be good enough and thinking that maybe it's not going to work out. this time around though this feels real like this feels absolutely real on both sides of the ball and defensively they are 100 % improved without a doubt and I kind of feel while we're talking about the Rams rightfully and then we're talking about the defending champs rightfully in Seattle it does feel like the Cowboys can compete and beat for real.

30:45Rich Eisen:Yeah. And your thoughts on that. Yeah, they really are rich. And it's funny because I had a conversation with someone the other day and he saw it differently. I said, the great part is that the Cowboys are here and the East will be a tough division. I think the East is going to be a tough division. But that NFC West is, and they got to keep playing each other. You know, so I don't expect Like all three of those difficult teams in the NFC West who's going to compete and play each other over there quite a few times, they come out of there totally healthy. Totally. You know, so it may help Dallas in some way.

31:26And I do believe, man, Dallas has what they need now. And all of it, all of it, and we'll talk about it all. We'll talk about what they brought, how many guys they put on defense after losing Michael Parsons. All of it, all of it cannot get lost in the fact that everybody was in training camp, thanks to George Pickens. And now you start getting Gotti, greatest offense there is. You haven't heard this stuff coming out of the Cowboys camp. You know why? You know why? Because they didn't have time altogether to come up with it. We were waiting to late August or September to start talking about winning because somebody was sitting out.

32:12Now everybody's together. You see the guys golfing together. You see the guys out hanging out together. You see them throwing the ball together. And then they come up with this thing called Gotti. Now what they've done, what they've done is sealed their own brain and telling themselves this is what we're going to do this year. We haven't had this in years past either, Rich. Nobody was together coming up, making a plan with what they're going to do this year. This is why I'm going to keep singing George Pickens praise because he made this possible. Now you can offense. Go set your goals. And they did.

32:50The goal for them is God. Greatest offense there is. I guarantee you that is that that's burning in their brain. And every time a tough game comes about and we get in a tough spot, they'll look up at each other and say, this is what the greatest offense there is do. It make plays right now. That's what's important. That's why it's important to have everybody in camp. I know because that's what I'm doing in camp. I'm trying to make sure these jokers mind is right. and we're setting the tone for what we're going to do. Because I know it's going to become a fourth quarter and it's going to be a tough time.

33:31And I got to look across that huddle and say, dog, what the hell did we talk about? Let's go. Right now, let's go. And they got to make that play. It's going to happen. And we got to have times to make those promises to each other so we can make that call in the huddle. I'm a little excited. Michael, everybody. Friday night.

33:53Rich Eisen:Yes. And plus my two decades working with you and knowing you. I love stirring you up and then rolling you right downhill for a segment called Win-Loss for the Dallas Cowboys. I need a schedule. I need the music. And I need Michael Irvin on the record. Here we go. Dallas Cowboys win-loss game. There's the music. One by one, we go down the schedule. Michael Irvin, what happens Sunday night football? Cowboys at the Giants. Week one, very important because Coach Harbaugh is going to have this team trying to get into real deep beliefs of the cultures that he has put in his place. Where's the butt, though?

34:34Is there a butt? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is what's good. But what Dallas has to do right here, since none of the guys have played in the preseason, this is the only thing that worries me, and this team is going to come very, very physical, I'm going to need Pickens, CD, N-DAC to control this game early with big plays. Win or loss? They'll win the game.

34:59Rich Eisen:Okay, there you go. That's 1-0. They're going to win the game. Commanders at the Cowboys is week two. Yeah, they'll beat the Commanders. That's 2-0. Now we're going down to Rio. Are you going to Rio for Ravens? They won't let me go because they're afraid they won't get me back.

35:16Win and loss. What happens? What happens? Oh, I want to tell y 'all something about Rio, but I better not. I better not. That's odd you have a story about Rio. It is. What happens, Ravens? Let's come back to Rio. I want to tell you this story. No, 2-0. Now, this will be a tough game. Baltimore will be a tough game. This game's in Baltimore? No, it's in Rio. I mean, in Rio. I mean, in Rio. That's right. It's in Rio again. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, we actually may win that game. All right. That's in Rio. If that game was in Baltimore, I would worry. The game in Rio. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Them brothers in Baltimore are going to build them a while in Dallas and Rio.

35:52Rich Eisen:3-0 now going to Houston. Okay, okay. Yeah, going to Houston, I would call that the first loss, 3-1. 3-1, Buccaneers at the Cowboys to kick off week five on Amazon Prime. They'll beat Tampa. That's 4-0 now at the Packers, and we're all expecting Micah to be back for that. They'll beat Green Bay. That's a 5-1 record now visiting the Eagles on Monday night. They made moves right here to Philly. I have to put them in. I can't ever say they will. Five and two. Cardinals now visit. Stop playing. Okay. Stop playing. Seven and two at the Colts. It'll be a good game because it's at the Colts, but the Cowboys will win that game.

36:24Rich Eisen:Seven and two. Now home for the 49ers. Right here. Right here. Yes, sir. And somewhere Jerry has to do one of these games and give an honor to Carolyn Price. You know, Cowboys mom that passed away recently. that will be a good game, that November 15th game. And in that honor, Dallas will beat San Francisco and get over the hump. And now once you beat San Francisco, you let them know, come on back in here. You're doing the playoff. We're going to do it again. So Dallas gets that win. Dallas certainly gets the Tennessee win. That's 9-2 going into Thanksgiving against the Eagles. Right there. And they win this Philadelphia.

37:09They beat Philadelphia at home. They lose on the road, but they beat them at home.

37:13Rich Eisen:Which means they're now 10-2 going into Seattle on a Monday night. And everybody's going to be talking about the NFC Championship game matchup. And here's going to be the problem right here. Dallas, everything's going good, but they got a bye week after this. And this is what Jimmy Johnson always worried about. You start thinking about the bye week before it's time to go goodbye. And Dallas loses it. Okay, so you're now 10-3 coming off the bye visiting the Rams. Right here, so you're going to get a taste. What's a taste? A taste of where you're going to come back to get your Lombardi trophy. That's why you beat the Rams.

37:55Rich Eisen:So you're going to measure for drapes? Yeah, you're going to do all that. You're going to measure? Right, right. You ought to be picking out your spot where you're going to stand when the confetti falls on you. You are visualizing. you are speaking into existence and you've got a win against the Rams which makes you, the Cowboys are now 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 and 3. 11 and 3. Yep. 11 and 3. Home for the Jaguars. And you win in Jaguars. 12 and 3. You lose against New York. The Giants are going to come in and beat you? Dude, by the end of the year, by the end of the year, that New York team will be vastly different than the one we played in the beginning of the year.

38:42By the end of the year, that hardball stuff will be taking root. And they got the talent and they got the mentality in New York. So by the end of the year, it's going to be a whole different team. 12-4 at Washington. And it depends on if we need this game or not. You're going to need it. If we're going to need it, then we'll win it. 13-4. It'll be 13-4.

39:05Rich Eisen:Michael Irvin says the Cowboys are 13. 13-4, y 'all. And I didn't just throw wins. I gave you how this thing will play out. You gave them a five-game win streak, but then they lose to Seattle. Then you gave them a two-game win streak and losing to the Giants at home in Week 17. You know, that would lead to quite the first take the next day, I'll tell you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's going to be a take. That'll be the first take of – Monday first take of 2027. That'll be a party if that happens. That would be a first take. It would be the first. It would be the first first take. You always calculate that stuff right away.

39:43You know that. Right away you see that kind of stuff.

39:46Rich Eisen:I weave. I don't just talk. It's going to be interesting, though, to see how that plays out. Rich, I do believe that that giant team, think about the mentality they got. You know, the Jackson Dart, the Scatterboo, and see why they're going to be vastly different then. The health, they'll be coming around healthy. They got a lot of young talent. early on they're going to be finding their way through their injuries and then later on boy they'll start coming together that's going to be a tough team to beat michael irvin is here throughout the entire show it's awesome dana white he's going to help me interview him in our number two baker mayfield will be first up in our number two um and uh when we come back real quick i just want to talk about hyundai hope on wheels did you know every 36 minutes a child in the U.S.

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42:58Hi, Mark. Oh, my God. You see your ring camera there? When somebody wants to get in, they have to hit your button. You better knock on my door, baby. Knock on my door. You can just hit your hand and say, no, you can't come in. Where are we, sir? Denver, Wake Forest, Clemson, North Carolina, and Notre Dame, our last away game. All on the road.

43:21Rich Eisen:For our radio audience, that is a clip of Fetching Fletcher's, the moment that the mom of Mark Fletcher Jr., running back of the Miami football program, Linda, saw the RV that has been gifted to you to drive around to follow your son's road games this year because you just don't like to fly. No. Pretty cool. Congratulations on all that. I feel so honored. Thank you. You are most welcome. You heard that Linda was driving around all these games. You're like, we can't have that? Let me share you with you. Well, first of all, she's such an incredible lady, Rich. She really is. And when I got a chance to meet with her, she was telling me about, which I think now is more so God than anything, the moms, what do you call it, the moms community she's putting together at the University of Miami.

44:10And I think that's great. And I think it's even greater now. We dropped it Monday. Look at where we are when we're talking about the conversation between moms and kids. And one of the things that I love Linda and love that Linda says all the time, she always says, and Linda, you should talk. I just I want us to get back to being ready to take the long mile for our children.

44:41Rich Eisen:That's awesome. And so you've taken a lot of miles. Oh, most definitely. Okay, and you're about to go up to Stanford for your first ride in the RV, or you've already ridden? Oh, I've driven 27 ,000. You drove all the way over here from Miami. Yeah, I've already. You drove all the way here from Miami. Yes. How many stops are you making? Well, I've stayed at about four or five-hour RV parks already. Okay. It's been amazing. And so you're seeing the country? Oh, I saw the Grand Canyon. Don't get me started. No kidding. Oh, yes, yes, yes. So I've been driving, but I've also been having a really good time.

45:17Rich Eisen:And you and I can share in this fact that nothing's more beautiful than seeing this country, obviously, and then having a love of a child. But nothing beats scoring against Ohio State. I'm telling you. Your son scored in that game. I might have been happy. I went to Michigan. Yeah, he got a big rivalry, Michigan, Ohio State. Anytime. time. Yeah. Yeah. So it's like, I thank you. I just feel, I'm telling you, I'm overwhelmed with gratitude and this guy here and the mayor, I don't know how I would ever thank him. I'm just, I'm going to thank God. How about that? Yeah. And let's put it together. And she's right.

45:58Cause when I went, when I, when I met with her, we were, I wanted to meet with her and say, listen, I, you know, I know you're driving and everything. And I have a good friend of mine, Jared McGee, who is, you know, founder and everything of Funtown RV. So I pieced it together. God put it in my head to piece it together. When I called her, she said, you know, I've been taking lessons trying to learn how to drive an RV. So I thought, oh, this is perfect. I mean, this is what I want to talk to you about. I want to get you, you know, and it was just, it's been so great. And as I said, I love that the timing of it all.

46:36We need to see this side of motherhood also. So I was just happy with it.

46:41Rich Eisen:That's so great. Yes, sir. Yeah. And have we outfitted it? What do we got? Oh, that thing's decked out. It's beautiful. They took care of the outside and I took care of the inside. I have, you know, I put a lot of pictures up from the years of our games and the mayor made the wall. Michael made the wall. Ashley, one of my good friends that always helps us out with coordinating things for Fetching Fletchers. And so, yeah, I just feel so good about the whole thing. And there's a tracker. You can track your rides and your drives and your experiences at FetchingFletchers.com. You can see where you've been and where you're headed.

47:22Rich Eisen:And again, for the radio audience that's about to go away, Mondays on YouTube, courtesy of Michael Irvin's production company and so much more. Thanks for listening to the Rich Eisen Show podcast. You can watch and listen to the Rich Eisen Show live weekdays from noon to 3 Eastern on ESPN Radio, Disney Plus, and on the ESPN app. The Rich Eisen Show, the podcast.

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Rich Eisen reveals his list of players which have the most to prove in the 2026 NFL season including Bills, WR DJ Moore, Eagles OC Sean Mannion, Dolphins QB Malik Willis, Vikings QB Kyler Murrray and others. Former Cowboys WR Michael Irvin joins Rich and discusses the current state of the Cowboys including WR George Pickens, what player he would bring back to the current Cowboys, on the Cowboys offense and if Dallas has what it takes to win a Super Bowl title, has the Dallas Cowboys going 13 – 4 in the Win-Loss Game. Michael Irvin and Linda Fletcher join RichEisen and discuss the show Fetching Fletchers and the journey that has Linda following her son play football across the country in an RV. 
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