Hour 1: Rich Ranks the NFL Head Coach Openings, plus CBS Sports’ Bill Cowher

6 Jan 2026 · 46 min · 13 chapters

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In short

Rich Eisen ranks the best current NFL head-coaching openings (top five, plus a sixth by process of elimination) and discusses the wide-open Wild Card Weekend playoff landscape. He also covers the coaching carousel/assistant firings and the implications of momentum, byes, and quarterback decisions.

Guests (and backgrounds)

  • Bill Cowher, Pro Football Hall of Famer; former Steelers head coach; CBS NFL analyst.
  • Mark Schlereth, Fox Sports NFL analyst; former NFL player; appears for Wild Card Weekend breakdown.
  • Kyle Whittingham, Michigan head coach (former Utah head coach); joins to discuss college football coaching/transfer portal.

Key claims

  • Cowher: Wild Card field is the most open he can remember; “win three games” is the path to the Super Bowl; health matters more than matchups.
  • Eisen: Six coaching jobs are open; top opportunities hinge on draft capital, cap space, and roster “bones,” especially quarterback plans.

Notable examples

  • Cowher highlights Packers-Bears, Chargers-Patriots, and notes Texans’ streak vs Steelers’ long losing drought.
  • Eisen’s coaching list includes Browns (picks 6 and 28; cap constraints; Deshaun Watson), Raiders (No. 1 pick; $110M cap; Brady involvement questioned), Falcons (winnable division), Titans (youngest roster; $113M cap), Giants (quarterback “plan” around Jackson Dart/Cam Scadaboo), and Cardinals (Kyler Murray conundrum).

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NFL Coaching Carousel Insights

1:41 to 4:35

Rich discusses the current NFL head coaching changes and their implications.

“Welcome to this edition of The Rich Eisen Show, live from Los Angeles, California, on this Tuesday, the 6th of January, 2026.”

Top NFL Coaching Opportunities

4:35 to 9:40

Rich shares his ranking of the best available NFL head coaching positions.

“And, you know, it was just a year and a half ago that the guy was the head coach of the Chicago Bears with Caleb Williams.”

In-depth Look at the Cleveland Browns

9:40 to 14:00

An analysis of the Cleveland Browns' current coaching situation and challenges.

“what's happened and now there are six head coaching positions open at present um and uh I have a top five list.”

Ranking NFL Head Coach Openings

14:00 to 21:20

Explore Rich's rankings and reasoning behind NFL head coach openings.

“So I'm putting the Browns here fifth on this list.”

Bill Cowher on NFL Playoffs

24:00 to 28:04

Bill Cowher discusses the current NFL playoff landscape and dynamics.

“I don't think there's any question about that, Rich.”

Eagles' Strategy and Playoff Health

28:04 to 30:02

Learn about the strategic decisions NFL teams make regarding player health and playoff seeding.

“They had to do some serious soul-searching.”

Bill Cowher on Mike Tomlin's Future

30:02 to 32:26

Bill Cowher discusses the pressure Mike Tomlin faces and the expectations of coaching in Pittsburgh.

“What do you think of what goes through the Bill Cowher temples when you hear out of Western PA, Mike Tomlin's got to go, Bill?”

The Decision-Making Process in Coaching

32:26 to 36:22

Explore how coaches and management handle decisions about team direction and changes.

“Well, I think, again, those are the hypotheticals that exist every year.”

Bill Cowher's Perspective on Coaching and Media

36:22 to 41:42

Hear Bill Cowher's thoughts on the challenges of coaching, his media career, and the love for the game.

“You talk about putting a team together, a staff together.”

A Fond Farewell to Bill Cowher

42:01 to 42:26

Rich Eisen shares a light-hearted goodbye with Bill Cowher before a commercial break.

“Sometimes they just always see the game the same way I did.”
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Listener Call from Molly in Utah

43:17 to 43:51

Rich takes a call from Molly, discussing her concerns over coaching changes at her alma mater.

“But for the ones who always rise to the challenge, Grainger has your back.”

NIL and Transfer Portal Discussion

43:51 to 46:47

Rich and Molly discuss the implications of the NIL era on college football and the need for rules regarding the transfer portal.

“Back here in the Rich Eisen Show on our Rich Eisen Show simulcast here on ESPN Radio and Disney Plus on TV and ESPN app.”

Excitement for Future Guests and Segments

46:47 to 47:46

Rich expresses anticipation for upcoming guests and discusses recent coaching changes in college football.

“three it's exactly what michigan needed um and we got lucky we got lucky and he's going to join us in hour number three.”
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1:00Rich Eisen:This is the Rich Eisen Show. Hey, everybody. Can't get enough of the Rich Eisen Show? You're in luck. You can find us everywhere. Watch us weekdays on Disney Plus from noon to 3 Eastern. Miss the show? We've got a podcast so you can listen anytime. But here's the best part. Our YouTube channel. Subscribe at youtube.com slash Rich Eisen Show and you'll never miss a moment. Now, on with the show. Ladies and gentlemen. This is the Rich Eisen Show. Oh, look at Steve Curry. Uh-oh, Steve, don't get thrown out. Eagle, Roy. Live from the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles. You look at the top picks, except for the Jets, are on to a new coach.

1:45Rich Eisen:Today's guests. Pro Football Hall of Famer Bill Cower. Fox Sports NFL analyst Mark Schleren. Michigan head coach Kyle Whittingham. And now, it's Rich Eisen. Well, hey, everybody. Welcome to this edition of The Rich Eisen Show, live from Los Angeles, California, on this Tuesday, the 6th of January, 2026. Everybody, 844-204-RICH, number to dial, whether you're watching us on Disney +, the ESPN app, or you're listening to us on ESPN Radio, Sirius XM, Channel 80, our podcast listeners, you could call. We might not be here. Just depends on when you're listening to us, whenever you want, on our podcast, all three hours.

2:28Rich Eisen:we're we're here for you in spirit if you're listening to us on our podcast we greatly appreciate that and anybody who watches later on on disney plus or uh somehow checks us out on our youtube channel we greatly appreciate youtube.com slash rich eyes and show you hit us with a follow button we're closing in on uh 1.1 million folks who take us in that way good to see you over there chris brockman how are you good morning rich how are you my friend good to see you DJ Mikey D's first appearance of 2026. Good to see you over there. Good to see you, TJ Jefferson. Did we get our plaque yet? For YouTube?

3:03Rich Eisen:Oh, for YouTube. One million. No, we have not. Because remember, I had picture ideas. I wanted us to take it around like one of those flat Stanleys. Oh, I thought the Stanley Cup is the Stanley I'd prefer to associate with. This is our Stanley Cup. You know what I mean? Plus, we don't have to have a handler with white gloves following. Very good. We should, though. You know, I introduce you guys first because you are on the Rich Eisen show, my BFFs. Of course. That means a lot, man. No, it's the truth. We're going to have a new one today joining us today. Oh, yeah. His name's Kyle Whittingham, and he has no idea that we're besties.

3:41Rich Eisen:He might have an idea. He's going to know right away. Right away. Oh, that we're besties? Yeah. I'm going to tell him. He's going to pick up on you. He has no idea. He has no idea. He's probably heard. You're out there in these streets. I'm out there in these maize and blue streets. Rich Eisen, he ain't that little kid from Staten Island. And he joins us the day after Bryce Underwood says, what portal? I don't see a portal. I'm staying right here. That makes you feel very happy. He's joining us in hour number three. In hour number two, Mark Schlereth will join us. He was on the microphone for Fox of Falcons and the Saints.

4:15Rich Eisen:He almost watched the New Orleans Shuccaneers put the Buccaneers into the playoffs. So that didn't happen. The Panthers move on. And Mark's going to be the first to help us break down Wild Card Weekend this week. Kurt Warner tomorrow. Bill Cowher is going to join us. Hey, Bill Cowher. Car power. We'll talk to Bill and his chin. Better do your chin. Join us on Zoom in short order. we'll talk to him about the coaching carousel and which job does he think is best um he's on ebs which has the wild card sunday opener between uh the bills the small market bills and the small market jacksonville jaguars you didn't like that when i threw that at liam cohen yesterday to call refer to the bills as well i i think that was uh you know uh putting him in a position yeah provocative act perhaps i just thought it was pointing out how he's just saying it with his chest and he's a guy who says things with his chest i mean technically you know based on the media markets jacksonville is rated higher than buffalo there you go so buffalo is factual they're the large market team in this wild card yeah it's a factual if i was armed with that information yeah i would have even pointed that out i looked it up after the fact but yes are the jaguars still underdogs in their home for sure yeah they are still all right yeah one and a half okay very good i can't wait to throw jacksonville in a tease uh by the way um i've just been told in my ears the latest of the uh coaching carousel assistants are taking it on the chin today matt eberflus of your dallas cowboys the defensive coordinator of the cowboys is thank you for your service has uh been told um his services are no longer required um which is you know i i i like that guy i like eber fluss yeah you know what i mean and a few times right he was there um in indianapolis at the dinner where some guy came up to me and thought i was ryan gosling so we'll always have that that is absurd it still is a feather in my cap sir it's i would i would never I can't wait until Ryan Gosling sits in that chair next to you and you get to share that story with him.

6:30Rich Eisen:I can't wait for that moment. Please, God, someday. That would be great.

6:36Rich Eisen:And, you know, it was just a year and a half ago that the guy was the head coach of the Chicago Bears with Caleb Williams. He had that golden lottery ticket from back in the day, and now he is no longer required to be a defensive coordinator for the Dallas Cowboys. Rough season. Well, they finished in DFL in total defense in 30th in many other metrics. They were DFL, and it's going to be a fourth straight year for the Dallas Cowboys to have a new defensive coordinator. Yikes. And, you know, it's the next guy. It's Iberflus. Last year was Mike Zimmer for one year, and before that, Dan Quinn, who just let go of both of his coordinators.

7:26Rich Eisen:The commanders announcing or our friends in the media are announcing and the commanders will no doubt at some point confirm. Cliff Kingsbury is out as the offensive coordinator. Don't forget, he was a guy who was in the mix for head coaching jobs at this point last year because of what he did with Jaden Daniels. And Jaden Daniels goes down. the offense falls completely apart McLaurin has a problem which isn't a surprise usually happens with guys who hold out that they have some form of a soft tissue injury at some point in time the run game goes down with Austin Eckler I mean injuries ravage that side of the football and all the plans Noah Brown hardly played Zach Ertz goes down towards the end of the year they wind up playing the third string quarterback because Mario Tuh gets injured and, you know, in the same way, Eberflus has got to be like, yeah, you know what's going to affect the total defense and the lack of sacks?

8:27Rich Eisen:Not having 11. You trading Micah Parsons away right from under me when you say everyone should sleep easy. You know, and that's just the way things go, I guess, in the National Football League. It's like a weird bling game. I bet Cliff thinks he's in the mix this year for a head coaching spot. i i mean it doesn't help it always helps when you're looking for a gig that you already have one it's the way it works in the real world as well uh certainly when you're highly successful with the job that you already have and you could basically say in a meeting you know or or you know go into the audition if you will with that as your you know backstop to basically say i'm good you know i i'm interested in your job but we're all good if it doesn't work out i mean there's some sort of a power that you you feel empowered in these conversations but to come in and say yeah the washington commanders have let me go but i'd love to still be your head coach it's it's not the greatest it's not the best uh way to walk into a job interview joe witt the defensive coordinator is out so the commander is changing both coordinators and dan quinn making that decision or ownership making that decision and dan quinn checking the box that's just what's what's happened and now there are six head coaching positions open at present um and uh I have a top five list.

9:55Rich Eisen:Oh, okay. Now, as you know, I do one more with the top five list. So it kind of fits to have six head coaching jobs open at present. And it does not appear of the three Florida-based head coaching jobs. One, as we all know, is quite secure. We're the guy who could be coach of the year in Liam Cohn, as the Jaguars are taking on the Bills to kick off wildcard weekend on Sunday for a triple header. And then there's the Miami Dolphins, whose head coach, Mike McDaniel, said yesterday he's going to be involved in the general manager's search for the Miami Dolphins. Is that weird? Usually it's the general manager chooses the coach, not the coaches there, and he helps the owners and consultants choose the general manager.

10:52Rich Eisen:That's an NFL way of doing something bass-ackwards, unless you'd love the head coach, and clearly they do. And Mike McDaniel can dial up plays, that is for sure. Hiring the guy that might fire you is a little strange. Well, I mean, we'll discuss this later on a little bit more. Hiring my brother. And Todd Bowles, a soundbite that we'll play later on as well, him saying he's earned the right to stay head coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, which I kind of liked that sort of brio that you don't want to, don't hear from Todd Bowles. Usually he's really calm unless you lose a football game in the last seconds, the Atlanta Falcons, then you sound like a truck backing up.

11:34Rich Eisen:But so I think it's going to stay six. You do. I kind of do. You don't think a wild card weekend could have an effect on things. I don't know. I would hope not. I would hope not either. I mean, in terms of if you lost the wild card game. Well, I think you're referring to Mike Tomlin right now, and we'll talk about that with Bill Cowher in short order. But I have my top five, and just understand this. Every job in the National Football League is a great job, okay? I mean, there's only 32 of them. It's the pinnacle of your profession to be a professional head coach in the National Football League.

12:15Rich Eisen:You could win the Lombardi Trophy if everything goes right. So understand this. There will be a six on the list, but it's still a special job. Have I covered my behind enough? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hit it. High five. One, two, three, four, five. Rich's top five. Ah, yes. My top five best NFL coaching opportunities at present, presented by Hyundai. Number five on the list. I'm putting the Cleveland Browns here. Here are the things that they got going for them. They're sixth overall on the clock. And also they've got Jacksonville's first round pick last year because they let Jacksonville hop up to take Travis Hunter, whose services they have not had in Jacksonville for almost more than half the season.

13:05Rich Eisen:And they're still in the wildcard round. But that means currently, would you care to guess what the Jacksonville first round pick is on the clock right now? Oh, like 28 or something? Yeah. Nice. You nailed it. I didn't know that. So they got the sixth and the 28th overall pick. They also have a defense ready to roll. Okay. I mean, we all know how good defensively they are. Offensive problems all over the lot. As we know, they only have cap space of three million going into next year. That we all know can be fixed a little bit. But that's 26th best in the NFL. The owner there, the Haslam family, you heard Jimmy basically say yesterday, we're not dysfunctional.

13:51Rich Eisen:What's dysfunctional? We're dysfunctional? Not this building. We're dysfunctional. And, you know, it's still the Deshaun Watson contract that roosts over this team and the salary cap. And so if you want this job and you want to go to Cleveland and you want to go in this division and you want to try and be the mayor of Cleveland by winning games there, you've got to figure out what to do with Deshaun Watson next year and the quarterback. What is up with that? So I'm putting the Browns here fifth on this list. Number four on this list, I'm putting the Vegas Raiders here. They've got the first overall pick, and they've got$110 million in cap space.

14:33Rich Eisen:That's the second best. Now, the problem with that is when you only have, you know, Max Crosby, Brock Bowers, Ashton Gentry, you know, the left tackle Colton Miller. After that, there's reason why the cap space is there. because you don't have a lot of guys that have commanded the salary to eat up your calf space. The guy on the right, Tom Brady, how much, if you're taking this job, you've got to find out how much is he going to be involved? And is he not in the building? And, you know, Alex Guerrero is in the building. What is that dynamic of a guy who's not in the building running the team? and I understand Brady's greatness.

15:20Rich Eisen:He's, by the way, a dynamite broadcaster. I think he has vastly, vastly improved. His enthusiasm for the game just comes through, the microphone, his knowledge. It's so great when he's like, when I used to do this, you're like, please tell me more about what you used to do. I want to know. Because you don't want to be that guy that he's saying, this is what I used to do, and you're on the field, and you're the guy not doing that. It's like being the guy on the iPad handed to Michael Jordan. You know, in the last dance. At any rate. And you can't say, what do you know, Tom Brady? What is that dynamic?

15:53Rich Eisen:And how does it affect the operations in the building? It's a fair question, I think. And, you know. I told you, quarterback under the most pressure this offseason. Tom Brady. Who's it going to be? And here's this stat that speaks about how dreadful the Raiders' offense was this year. Ashton Gentry had 1 ,021 total yards after contact this year. Insane. Okay. He had a 1 ,000-yard season scrimmage after contact. His total yards number was 1 ,321, meaning he had only 300 yards on the season before he was hit. Wow. Wow. That's how bad it was protecting, blowing open holes, finding an offense of anything.

16:43Rich Eisen:And plus, you know, I'll put it forth on the list here because, you know, you're living in Vegas. Take that as you will. Fun town if you want to find the fun. Good place to be. And good place to be if you don't want to find the fun. All right. Number three on the list, I'm putting the Atlanta Falcons here. Oh. even though they have no first round picks just 5 million in cap space, that's the 24th best in the National Football League but this division is winnable, to say the least an 8-9 team an 8-9 team just won this division, as a matter of fact the 58 combined wins for the division over the last two years is the fewest combined wins of any division in the national football league it's the most winnable division you have out there the offense is ready to roll do you have a plan for michael pennix do you want him because he's there when he comes back and if not you've got kirk cousins and drake london and kyle pitts and bijon robinson who is must be the greatest guy to to coach in the nfl if you think about it right what a dream you got guys on defense you got an uh potentially a couple all pros on the offensive line so there's there's some bones there to win this division as Brady Morris could say, all I had to do was beat the Jets and I'd still have a job.

18:03Rich Eisen:And the Jets would have the first overall pick, but I digress. Number two on the list are the Tennessee Titans. I'm putting them here. They've got the fourth overall pick. The average age of their team is 25.8. That's the youngest in the league. You've got the youngest roster. You've got the fourth overall pick. You also have the first overall pick from last year's draft. So you can use the fourth overall pick on the best player on the board that's not a quarterback. What's your plan for Cam Ward? I mean, this guy basically marinated in anonymity this year. By the way, that's a great, I think, Deep Purple album was marinated in anonymity.

18:36Rich Eisen:Great tour. He's a baller, man. I really like him. Okay, so what's your plan for him? You got him on his rookie contract starting in year two. $113 million in cap space. That's number one. And I believe there's no state income tax, right? In Tennessee, no, there's not. There's not in Nevada either, right? Correct. Okay. Number one, this state income tax here, for sure. But I'm putting the New York Giants here. You got Jackson Dart in year two. You got Cam Scadaboo coming back. You got Malik Neighbors. You've got this defense that has just gotten a ton of studs in that front seven. Third overall, pardon me, fifth overall pick, 18 million in cap space.

19:19Rich Eisen:That's the 19th best. But what's your plan for Jackson Dart? You see what I'm saying? I've got three kids at quarterback that lead this list here. You've got to have a plan for it because if you think these kids aren't it, you might have to find out if the front office and ownership is flexible about not going with them anymore, which is a tough sell. Maybe you don't want that job because the last job you want is a job where a team is committed to a young quarterback that you don't believe in. the worst part is to have that happen during you during your tenure where you believe in the young quarterback and now you don't see dolphins comma miami number one are the giants on this list go ahead you have one more i did not know and that leaves the cardinals by process of elimination their third overall on the clock and they've got 44 million dollars in cap space that is the uh 14th best overall in the NFL.

20:22Rich Eisen:And, you know, again, young receivers, Michael Wilson is so freaking good. Trey McBride is the best tight end in the NFL, production-wise, to say the least. And, you know, my issue with being a Cardinals head coach is the fact that this division is sending three teams to the playoffs right now with 12 or more wins, and you started 2-0 and only won once the rest of the way, and that's the team that you're taking over. With Kyler Murray is the question. Is he your guy? Is he not? What does that leave the team if he isn't anymore? Is ownership willing to part ways if you're not interested? Would they hire you if you're not interested?

21:09Rich Eisen:I mean, that's a large conundrum, but still there's a lot of great bones for taking this job. That's the one more of my top five best NFL coaching opportunities. I just ranked them one through six right here on the Rich Eisen Show. Presented by Hyundai, everybody. Let's take a break. Bill Cowher is going to join us next from CBS. 844-204-RICH is the number for you to dial to have a conversation with us on this program as well.

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24:23Rich Eisen:Is this, you're a perfect guy to ask this question to, the most wide open playoff field that you could remember perhaps even from your coaching days where truly anybody can go on wild card weekend, win on the road, and go on a run to the Super Bowl right now? I don't think there's any question about that, Rich. I think if you look and since this format of 14 teams now instead of 12, and now we have seven seeds that are in there, and this is the third year of that, But I look at those two seven seeds, the Green Bay Packers going to the Chicago Bears. I'm telling you, that's a divisional game. I think Green Bay Packers are going to go in there healthy.

25:00I know Matt LaFleur rested his guys last week. The Bears maybe not playing their best those last couple weeks. They can still run the football. I give them a chance big time to go into Chicago and win that. And for the Chargers, you know, Justin Herbert, you can say what you want. They lost those three tackles early in the season. It's been kind of a makeshift offensive line. But the time clock in Justin Herbert's head, I think, has sped up down through the years. So he's gotten used to maybe throwing the ball quicker than he wants to and then maybe having to evade. This is the best defense he's had going into a football game in terms of playoffs.

25:34And so it's time for him to do it. But you're also going against the New England Patriots, maybe one of the most balanced football teams, and talk about the AFC side of the ball.

25:41Rich Eisen:Yeah, and the six seeds are the Bills in the AFC and the Niners in the NFC. The five seeds are the Rams in the NFC and the Texans who have the longest winning streak in the National Football League going into the playoffs. I mean, seriously, everybody's got to have their heads on a swivel this week. Yeah, I mean, I don't think there's any question that this is wide open from one to seven. I think you can even talk about the fact that Seattle and Denver, you know, they're right there with the rest of those guys. There's been no separation. I think you've got a group of teams in there. They're slotted in certain places, and I think that's what makes the playoffs great, particularly this round, Rich.

26:18I always said, you know, you get to the playoffs and it's 0-0. All you got to do is win three games if you got to buy, four games if you don't get to buy. And whether you play on the road or you play at home, to me it's just, you got to beat everybody anyway. And that's why I liked even what Nick Sirianni did this past week. I could have got a second seed. I don't care, but he put health over matchups. And I think that's the way you have to do it going into the playoffs. Go as healthy as you can, and then play over where you have to play. slay every dragon along the way and if you have to beat them all because to me there's only one champion there's 31 other teams that are vying for that position i'll put a pin in that for a

26:51Rich Eisen:second because uh i do want to revisit that what you just said about sirianni but in the in in in what we're you know in the vein of what we're talking about here the the bye week it's great for rest it's great for health and it's great because you don't have to win four playoff games to win it all, you have to win three. So you're a step closer to the ultimate prize. But this week, again, the bye week may be most important because you avoid the fray of this weekend where anybody can win. There's just no question about that. But you also, the thing that you, the bye week, you lose is momentum.

27:28I mean, there's one thing because you lose that game, you lose a bye week, but if you have the momentum going in, that's why I go back and just say, the one thing I always looked at every year, and this was the Commanders a year ago, and it's been the Philadelphia Eagles this year. Sometimes a three-game losing streak, which we experienced a year we won our championship. We were 7-2, went to 7-5, had to win our last four to get in, and then went on the road three times and won the championship. We won eight straight games. I saw that with the Commanders a year ago. They went to the championship game.

27:57I see that with the Eagles this year. That three-game loss they had the last two weeks in November and the first week of December, I think that depth have made them a better football team. They had to do some serious soul-searching. So sometimes the depths of despair can read the heights of hope. I just think sometimes you have to go really low to get really high. And that's how I looked upon our run that we had in 2005, and I see that kind of the same parallels where the Eagles are. And they've been there before. No one's talking about them. I think the running game's coming back. Yes, those questions are going to exist on the offensive side of the ball, but that is a very, very special defense.

28:33And, again, they are still the defending champs.

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28:36Rich Eisen:Well, then let's remove that pin because, you know, didn't Sirianni in a way stunt his own momentum by not playing guys in the last week of the season where where I understand health is important. And it is the fans who game the system in their heads about we'd rather play this team rather than that team. But the two seed means it means if you win your wildcard game, you get another one at home. The three seed doesn't guarantee that, Bill. No, it doesn't. Whether you play home on the road, I want the healthiest team I can have going in. And I think to be able to give a guy like Jalen Carter and you give him Lane Cape another chance to rest a little bit, Saquon a chance to step back, same thing with Jalen.

29:21So I am all in on the fact that if you don't, we had to win our week 17. I would have rested my guys too, but we had to win to get into the playoffs. They didn't have to. They were in the playoffs. And so he took it and said, you know what, I'm going to take this as my bye week. And now all I got to do is win four games. Yeah, I got one at home and I got maybe two on the road and I'm going to the Super Bowl. So he wanted to make sure they're as healthy as they can be. I totally am all in on what he did in terms of like, don't worry about the seating. You know, you have to beat everybody anyway.

29:54I don't care who it is and where it's at. It doesn't matter. If you're going to win a championship, it's about who you're playing and thus being healthy as you can, not where you're playing.

30:01Rich Eisen:Bill Cowher, Pro Football Hall of Famer and NFL Today on CBS right here on the Rich Eisen Show. What do you think of what goes through the Bill Cowher temples when you hear out of Western PA, Mike Tomlin's got to go, Bill? Well, unfortunately, I think that that happens when you, again, set the bar really high. And I've been there before. I mean, I know I went to the playoffs my first six years. and, you know, you go to the Super Bowl and all of a sudden you go to the championship games and you lose all the championship games. And the longer you're in it, sometimes you become a victim of your own success and expectation and all of their, your message is getting old.

30:43So, and listen, I think the biggest thing for Mike, the noise on the outside is a lot greater than the noise on the inside. And I think, again, he's a guy that, he thrives in those conditions. He thrives on being the underdog and being kind of challenged and backed into a corner. I think you're seeing the same thing a little bit with Aaron Rodgers, a little bit of a chip on their shoulders, and they've aligned themselves. And so this football team, again, it's interesting, Rich, when you talk about this game because you talk about the Houston Texans, they've got the longest winning streak coming in.

31:14Everyone talks about the Houston Texans being a team that nobody wants to play. But then let's just look on the other side. The Pittsburgh Steelers on Monday Night Football, the last time they lost was 1991, okay? That was Chuck. I never lost in my 15 years. Mike's never lost in his 19 years. So Houston may not be the team you want to play in the playoffs, but Pittsburgh may not be the team you want to play on Monday night. So we'll see. Something's going to have to give here.

31:40Rich Eisen:Well, I mean, I don't know how much contact you have with Mike, and I understand outside noise doesn't get in the building, but it's been very noisy outside of that building. and all it took also was just one loss in Cleveland in week 17 to bring it back up prior to the week 18 finale that the Steelers won for various reasons from obviously that missed field goal at the end but Aaron Rodgers having the best quarter of his Steelers year for sure and so it does feel like if it doesn't go their way on Monday night there'd be another conversation about should this be the end of the road in Pittsburgh, Bill?

32:26Rich Eisen:What's your opinion on that? Well, I think, again, those are the hypotheticals that exist every year. And I think the one thing is that Pittsburgh is not impulsive. I think that Mike's not impulsive. I think you take some time, you step away, and then you just see what's in the best interest of everybody. I think, again, I think if Mike leaves, it's going to be a choice that he has. I think the same can be said about John Harbaugh. I think these are two coaches that have been in the same place for a very long period of time they've had tremendous success and they've earned the right to be able to say you know what and if you think the message is still but they still have you see their teams performing you see their teams responding and the biggest of stages and you know that could very easily have been uh john harbaugh walking off the other day if it kicks the kid makes the kick so um you know again these are these guys have had sustained success they're very very good coaches they've been the integral parts of these organizations so those aren't always easy conversations to have And I think I always would like to give people 24, 48 hours when it's all said and done.

33:25Let the emotions get out of it. Have a chance to sit back and reflect. And let's just sit down and have conversations about moving forward. Where are we going to go? The directions we need to go. The things that need to be done. And do I want to be a part of that process? And if it's sometimes, as you talked about, you said down in Washington, it's a party in a ways. You sit there with Dan Quinn and all of a sudden you have their offensive coordinator, Kingsbury. And they're going to meet and say, maybe it's time for change. And so, listen, I had to make a lot of changes on staff down through my 15 years.

33:58And I sometimes didn't have the numbers to quantify the change outside of the fact that I just felt like we needed to have change in the building. And that doesn't always just apply to assistant coaches. It can apply to head coaches as well. So, and they may be prompted by the head coach. So, again, I think those are things that when you're on the inside, you know, and there's a lot of things that are involved with it. And I think, again, when you're involved with the playoffs, you're not listening to that because you're kind of on this one track mind right now because you're this close. You put in too much time and effort to talk about that.

34:29But I think when it's all said and done at the end of the season, taking at least 48, 72 hours off, then come back and talk about it. Remove the emotion. Don't become impulsive in saying something or doing something that you really haven't put a lot of thought into. So I think that'll be the thing that'll happen, I think, in Pittsburgh. and again, whenever it does end, and probably the thing that's taking place right now, even in Baltimore.

34:50Rich Eisen:Well, I mean, yeah. Do you have any insight on how the Roonies, you obviously do, can you lend me any insight on how the Roonies operate on this front from that side of things with their remarkable level of patience? And do they stay completely out of it? Are there no such conversations on this front during the playing season? During the season, no. For what reason? I mean, during the season, we're just trying to win a game the next week. So that is not taking place. But in the off seasons and even in years that we had losing years, losing seasons, like we took some time off. And like I said, I told you, we took 48, 72 hours.

35:30You have the exit meetings that took place. You're talking to the players. You're talking to the coaches. And then at the end of that week after you had a week off, three or four days, let's sit down and talk. Everyone's out of the building. We give everybody else off the rest of the week. let's come in and sit down in this office and kind of get some talk about where are we? Can we agree on how we want to move forward? Do we want to move forward together? Did you have those conversations with the Roonies at one point?

35:56Rich Eisen:Do we want to move forward together? I mean, did you have that? I don't think it was actually said that way. I think there's implications as to where are we? I mean, there's some moves that we want to make, and can you agree with these moves? And so there's a lot of conversations about, again, change that may want to be had. And can you agree on that change moving forward? Same conversations you have. You talk about putting a team together, a staff together. There's always going to be back and forth. And you kind of want everyone to have their own separate opinion. It's not just one person saying, doing it this way.

36:34So there's got to be, again, a chance to reflect on what just took place and a chance to ponder moving forward. where you want to go and you know and how strongly you feel about certain things

36:47Rich Eisen:i'm just i'm i'm kind of also stunned here bill before i let you go because the conversation is that maybe uh tomlin would want to take a year off if it doesn't go well and and and go hit the media you you've been with cbs since 2007 you've you haven't lost it you haven't lost a game in almost you know 20 years 19 years yeah 19 years and that's but that's the beauty of like mooch hasn't lost a game in 20 years you haven't lost a game in 20 years jimmy johnson who just stepped away from media you know like that's that's part like you're involved in the game you're you know you're gonna be in everybody's living rooms uh certainly to kick off sunday uh on cbs but let me just say this so we also have had mike brave will take off a year last year and he came back We had Sean Payton two years ago take off a year and go to Fox, and he came back.

37:39So it's in your blood. I mean, once you do it for a long period of time, once you have success doing it, it's not easy to stay away. And again, I walked away on my own. I had many opportunities to come back, but I also kind of prioritized normalcy. And I think the one thing that happens, you know, I love New York City. I mean, I just having a normal life, you know, to go grocery shopping in New York City, walk up and down and have that, you know, anonymity. That was important to me. And I realized that I had kind of lost that Pittsburgh. And when I kind of got it back, I said, wow, there's a different side of life where I can enjoy an offseason.

38:20I can do a little bit of traveling. I can go to Broadway shows or go to concerts. And again, just have more of a normal life than you did before. I prioritize that as much as I miss coaching and miss strategizing. I miss being with the players, miss being with the coaches, miss those Sunday afternoons. I actually miss even at times losing. And people tell me, oh, you guys are done. Oh, great. It's all I needed to hear because I might come back and be your worst nightmare. And so, you know, I love to compete. I think that's the biggest thing because the great coaches, they love competition. They thrive on it and they embrace it.

38:58And that's why you get back to the corner of the great ones. You see the very best come out of it. And so, again, you don't get that doing this in TV. But you also have an opportunity to have a voice, to be kind of a guardian of the game. In my opinion, that's what I look at myself as, to make sure that I try to give the insight to the viewers as to what we see on the outside. It may not be exactly how it's being perceived on the inside. and it's a lot of other things that are involved, whether it was an overthrow by the quarterback or maybe a bad route by the receiver, a blown coverage because of miscommunication.

39:31So whatever it is, that's kind of part of the game. And trying to work through those things has kind of become the journey every one of these teams are taking right now on this wild card weekend is they've gone through these journeys. And sometimes those pitfalls may end up being the thing that propels you to another level of greatness. So it's just so many great storylines. and this weekend. And, you know, again, it's always a tough day. The day after the last game, you have Black Monday. We have six openings right now. And, you know, so who knows? And there's always usually a surprise one later on.

40:02Who knows where that could come from? But that's the National Football League. I mean, the only thing cost in the NFL is change.

40:13Rich Eisen:That's one way to put it for sure. When was the last time you got a tire kicked on you this time of year to see if you'd want to come out? How long has it been? No, no. How long has it been? Long time? Oh, yeah, it's been – I mean, I think I've answered – I think the word got out and I was saying no, and I think people quit asking. Quit asking. Yeah, but, you know, I talk to a lot of people, Rich, you know, and I love the game more than I love any team, to be quite honest with you, and I love to be able to be a voice of reason, and coaches reach out sometimes. I give them my opinion whether they – and they know if they ask me, they're going to get the truth, and it's not going to be something they want to hear sometimes.

40:53It might be what they need to hear. And so I think that's why I appreciate the fact I'm pretty straightforward with what I see and how I feel. I may not be right. They may see it in a different way. But if you ask me, I'll just give you my opinion. I love the game of football and got great respect for it from the standpoint of how it's played, who's coaching it. And all I understand, too, are the challenges that go that you can't see on the outside that you're dealing with on the inside. And sometimes those things need to stay on the inside, but it can be very challenging. And, you know, sometimes those decisions that you have to make in terms of whether it's a clock management, it's a certain play, a certain player that you have to part ways with, a certain coach you have to part ways with, or being willing to be flexible enough to change systems at times because this is the way the National Football League.

41:36You've got to be able to adapt and adjust, you know, firming your core values by flexible and applying them.

41:41Rich Eisen:Well, I would have loved to have seen you back on the sideline one last time. Bill trying to show a ref they blew a call by trying to jam a tablet in his shirt pocket. I don't think it would fit these days. You know what I mean? Nope. But I would not have changed at all. I would let them know how I felt, as I always did then. But I love their work. I appreciate their efforts. Sometimes they just always see the game the same way I did. I bet. And I love watching you on CBS. Have a great time with James and the rest of the crew there, Matt. and tell Nathaniel I said hello, too. Will you please? Yes, I will.

42:16Tell Mooch I said hi.

42:17Rich Eisen:I will do it. I had some good battles, man. I love it. Yeah, I know. You probably won most of them. Listen, it's Bill Cowher right here on the Rich Eisen Show. Great to see you. Look for more of my calls before the Super Bowl. I'd love to get your thoughts on that. It's Bill Cowher, everybody, of CBS. We've got to beat it on down the road. I couldn't quit saying goodbye to him. We've now mutually agreed to part ways for commercial break. The Rich Eisen Show, the podcast.

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43:51Rich Eisen:Back here in the Rich Eisen Show on our Rich Eisen Show simulcast here on ESPN Radio and Disney Plus on TV and ESPN app. 844-204-RICH. Number to dial. Let's go to Molly in Utah, where not a lot of people are happy with my school these days. What's going on, Molly? hey rich big fan of the show how you guys doing greatly we're fine how are you doing happy new year to you you know i'm a university of utah alum and my in-laws are buckeyes so i'm not feeling too great right now but um you know with kyle whittingham leaving it's it's hard but i don't think there's anyone better for the job i agree uh my question is i know what's been saying that he's not actively poaching players you know which i respect a lot and it seems really unconventional as of late.

44:39My question is about the transfer portal. We obviously have a problem with, you know, independently of coaching turnover and with coaching turnover. I'm just wondering what you guys are thinking needs to happen to the portal in the age of NIL, given, you know, all the hypothetical solutions floating around right now.

44:56Rich Eisen:I think there needs to be contracts. This thing needs to just be professionalized, Molly. This thing needs to be professionalized where where an initial connection with the school requires at least a two year stay from the player that we can't have free agency every year where where you're re-recruiting your own players and you're also recruiting the players who who have a chance to leave there there needs to be some sense of free agency because there is for college football coaches I think there should be no buyouts of any contracts in college football coaches so there's a contract that they that the coach has to be held to so there's some sort of a continuity but there just needs to be rules period that just doesn't appear to be rules molly you know and you know the the fact that that coach witt has left and i totally understand why you'd be upset um but i have to ask them are your in-laws upset because they know michigan got it right molly you know what i'm not going to speak for him no you have to i demand you speak for your in-laws i demand you speak for them right now are they upset because i know buckeye fans are like damn it i kind of like this guy we're all in we're all in utah i think okay we're upset because we left utah to go to michigan so it's just kind of a double-edged sword didn't utah kind of tell them it was time didn't utah tell them it was time in a way that they that there was a coach waiting that they liked or no yeah i can we can still be upset though right sure you know yeah you're you're a fan and i appreciate the call thanks for calling him molly in utah giving me a point of view that um i really haven't covered very much because i'm just happy we took their guy to be very honest yeah you should um and i can't wait to chat with him in hour number three it's exactly what michigan needed um and we got lucky we got lucky and he's going to join us in hour number three.

46:56Rich Eisen:And apparently, whatever he said to Bryce Underwood kept him there and all the top prospects that they have. Most of them are staying. And I can't wait to kind of kick the tires on my new BFF. You're a professional. I'm absolutely not going to in hour number three. But that's hour three. The Ridge Eisen Show Podcast. Monster Energy. Everybody knows White Monster, Zero Ultra. That's the OG. It kicked off this whole zero sugar energy drink thing. But Ultra is a whole lineup now. You've got Strawberry Dreams, Blue Hawaiian, Sunrise, and Vice Guava. And they all bring the monster energy punch. So if you've been living in the white can, branch out.

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