Hour 2: Bam Adebayo’s 83-Point Game Debate, Italy Beats USA in WBC, plus Matt Hasselbeck

15:52Matt Hasselbeck:Well, I would never play a quarterback until he has absolutely mastered third down pass protection. Like if you can't master third down pass protection, you should never be on the field. I don't care where you were drafted, how much money you make, who's in front of you, what the team looks like. That's the test for me. And so when guys play before that, they fail. It's just what it is. You know, quarterbacks, you don't get paid for what you do from the 20 to the 20. You get paid for what you do on third down and in the red zone. And ultimately, that's where I think guys fail. So whenever a quarterback is ready to take that on, then play him.

16:25Matt Hasselbeck:Go for it. but if not you see examples of sam darnold being the most recent one um you know baker mayfield might be another one guys that it took them a long time to kind of show that they belonged and that they can be an elite player in the league um but when they first went out there the result wasn't that great because you had a lot of people on whatever talk radio saying oh no this guy needs to play when else are you gonna learn you got to throw him out there well then let's drill down a

16:52Rich Eisen:little bit then what what does it require to master third down um protection that a kid from college these days might have struggle problems doing like what what what does that look like

17:03Matt Hasselbeck:it's like flying a 747 it's like uh doing it's like doing open heart surgery like you you got to do it i get it like you need reps doing it but you need controlled reps i look at some of the quarterbacks that i think have had a lot of success tom brady aaron rogers patrick mahomes I experienced this myself like we sat and watched somebody else play on Sundays while we were developing while we were getting ready it's easy to sit in the in the chair and on a whiteboard or on film and someone say all right if they do this what are you going to do and you sit there and say well I think we would do that well you got to make that decision in a split second and you got one you know one chance to do it like when the the opportunity arises you got to make it happen.

17:47Matt Hasselbeck:So like some of it is like testing them in a controlled environment so that you know that they're ready using Patrick Mahomes as an example. He sat the entire season, backed up Alex Smith, his whole first season. Was he talented enough to play? Sure he was, but Andy reading company felt like, Hey, you haven't, you haven't earned it. We were not ready to give that to you. Last game of the season, they played him in a game and a real game and he played incredibly well. And they said, all right next year is yours like that's how it went down uh so i think that's a great example of a of a coach in an organization that knows how to develop a young quarterback while you're playing games while you're hopefully winning games and you don't hurt the quarterback in the process and quite honestly he doesn't get anybody else hurt in the process all right well dude we got to do

18:35Rich Eisen:this more often if you're willing to do it i just love chatting with you man and you're so humble you know, I can't believe every football you've ever won and every helmet you've ever worn is behind you. That doesn't strike me as your brand, Matthew.

18:50Matt Hasselbeck:I mean, I might be a little bit of a toot-toot here, but that's not even close to all of them. And if we're being honest, a lot of these trophies are like my kids' trophies anyway, so they're not even mine. Oh, really? Yeah.

19:04Rich Eisen:Okay. You know your wife's in the Hall of Fame. Your wife made a Hall of Fame before you did, right?

19:09Matt Hasselbeck:just 16 years before me we're the same age though but it happens oh my god so you you saw the raider

19:17Rich Eisen:statement right like that that started the whole thing off that we didn't know was real or not this whole business uh we we've discovered a new statement tell us if this is fake or not matthew okay um here we go this is gonna be fun and pardon me for doing this but let's have some fun with it pop it up on the screen here um you got uh here it is ladies and gentlemen uh matt hasselbeck is backed out of wanting the ball and they're going to score and the Seahawks have no further comment at this time. Matt, I want you to know I had nothing to do with it. What do you mean? I had nothing to do. What do you mean?

19:47Matt Hasselbeck:Here's why it's false though. I'm never backing out of it. I'm proud of the moment. I don't, I don't regret the moment at all. I regret the throw. I regret, I regret the audible. I regret choosing Al Harris's side. Truly. I mean, he's turned into this amazing defensive back coach and everywhere he goes kansas city dallas chicago his dbs are not afraid to jump around like hey you beat me on a double move like hey good for you but i i'm gonna score on defense that's the mindset that's why i think al's been done such a great job as a db coach but uh i don't regret saying it i don't regret the moment it was one of the most fun games i ever played in my first playoff game um but yeah it was a yeah all good man just having some

20:30Rich Eisen:fun, Matthew. That's what happens when you come home. See, Colin doesn't do you that way. I'm good. I'm good. Hey, by the way, love your book.

20:37Matt Hasselbeck:Love your book. Go out and get it on Amazon. Rich, how many books have you written? One book? Two books? There's another one coming.

20:45Rich Eisen:Okay, good. There's another one coming. So I'm going to need you. By the way, he's referring to at the Pro Bowl where he called me working for the NFL's network. I strove past the pool and he's just lying there with my book just like that. Just reading it. Not reading it probably for real.

21:05Matt Hasselbeck:A little product placement. The Rich Eisen book, Run Rich Run, or whatever it was called. Total access. Total access. And all the Pro Bowl players, AFC, NFC, and their girlfriends, like all the people, they're seeing, oh, man, the quarterback in the Pro Bowl can't put this book down. I need to go out and get the Rich Eisen total access book. Must be amazing. Now, listen, the book was upside down when I was reading it, but that was an accident.

21:33Rich Eisen:You are the best, man. You are the best. And I thank you for that one book sale. I appreciate it. It made the week of six book sales maybe my peak at that point in time. But you're the best, dude. Thanks again. Appreciate the time. Anytime. All right. I'm going to take you up on that. I'm going to really take you up on that. Okay? I'm in. I'm in. Ladies and gentlemen, Matthew Hasselbeck here on the Rich Eisen Show giving us our two cents in his free 99 gear.

22:02Rich Eisen:Oh, my God. There he goes. The statement. I thought that would be funny. Man, that's cold. Is it really? I mean, you made a Super Bowl after that. What's the big deal? Yeah, they could have went to another one. No further comment at this time. No further comment. How about that? Third down pass. protection if you can't figure that out don't put them on the field hard to argue end of story hard to argue with that so if you're seeing somebody struggle with you know getting sacked on third down or whatever because that may be it quick look up what jj mccarthy did on third down last year mutual interest between the vikings and kyle murray that's gonna happen yeah i would call that two weeks ago it's gonna happen it's gonna happen and and uh i i once it does it's gonna be on kevin o 'connell's remarkable ability to coach up and coach players and get the best out of them and and administrate that competition but we'll we'll wait for it to be official before i start going all in on the commentary of it 844-204-RICH uh is the number to dial right here on the rich eyes and show i'm mad i'm looking up and looks like bobby hurley's going down and uh he'll be done as the arizona state head coach and uh wow he's down 45 to 12 on espn right now so we welcome the espn viewers here to disney plus we'll take a break here on the rich eisen show 844-204-rich

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26:23Rich Eisen:I promise to take phone calls. Let's go straight to Baltimore, Maryland. Andrew in Baltimore, you're here on the Rich Eisen Show. What's up, Andrew? Hey, Rich. Before I get into it, I'd like to make a comment that Bob Kraft has announced that he is going to back out of keeping Belichick and instead will sign Tom Brady. Ladies and gentlemen, all right, let's put that statement. And there's no further comment at this time, right, Andrew? No further comment. Okay, very good. What's on your mind? So this went down Friday night. I have four teenage boys. They get, well, 13 to 20, and the house erupted.

26:54Rich Eisen:They were excited and happy, and what I said to them, this is not permanent until after the physical. Don't buy any jerseys this weekend, guys. The other thing I tell them all the time is, and the Raiders should listen to this, don't spend money that is not yours yet. meaning he wasn't signed on the contract wasn't done don't go blowing money you're not sure you're going to have if that's a problem i don't see any problem with this multiple doctors besides the ravens doctors looked at this and again you said uh she said earlier that it wasn't this year that was the issue it was the next few years and it was a lot of stuff the ravens were giving up we draft very well we do uh later rounds very well but i think they made the right decision here and as far as listen rich i know it's been a long time since you've bought a used car i'm sure but sometimes you take it from the dealership you're buying it and take it to another mechanic you trust to get it looked at again understood but would you buy another car from that dealership um if i if i took it back well i'm just saying is if what i'm saying is the ravens are a dealer that potentially you're not um going to trust anymore you have to you have to understand that right and everything you just said is right but what if the raiders started spending this money because they know the ravens had gotten all the information from the doctors and everyone else just not physically put their hands on him yet right so i mean that's that's the word yes so So that's what I'm saying is that the Ravens did everything within their rights, all of it, all of it, but they may have to reap a little bit here in the future.

28:47Rich Eisen:I will tell you this. There's head coaches and GMs today thinking that Eric Acosta did a great job in backing out of this, that they would not have done it because it took a lot of guts to back out of a big deal. I, as a Raven fan, still believe purple and black. I bet. And I think that maybe we will pay some dues. Maybe there's a little bit more respect gained for not going through with it also. So let me ask you this quick question one last time, Andrew. Sure. Yes, sir. Are you more disappointed that Max Crosby's not coming or more pleased in the fact that dad was right in a lesson to be taught to his four sons, Andrew?

29:28Rich Eisen:It's always great when dad's right. Mom's still in the house, so it doesn't happen all the time. Andrew in Baltimore, everybody. Well done. He negotiated the landmines I just put in front of him right there. Well done. There's one Baltimore fan that's perhaps not terribly happy. Became very famous. Some dude named Nate who said, I will shave my head if Max Crosby becomes a raven. He does it. Welcomes him to Baltimore. Now he's going to have to grow it all back. What's up, Nate?

30:02Matt Hasselbeck:He's now world famous, Nate. I hope nobody got, like, Cosby tattoos.

30:05Rich Eisen:Oh, I promise you at least two people did. Yeah, I hope at least two. It's not official. Well, that tattoo's official. Yeah, once it's on. Indeed. You're right. Wow. Let's go to Jimmy in San Antonio. What's up, Jimmy? Jimmy. Hey, what's up, man? Hey, Jimmy, you know Susie's not here today, right? I do know that. It's okay. I think he still wants to address the person in that chair anyway. The HR department. I have a complaint, Brockman. I'll get to you. TJ Del Tufo Rich. How y 'all doing? Hey, happy 311 day. My favorite band. Shout out to Chad, Nick, Tim, S.A. and Peanut. All right, Jimmy. Look at you.

30:46Rich Eisen:I know. I just had, all right, Brockman, you ready? Uh-oh.

30:50Matt Hasselbeck:I mean, are you going to eject me before we get to play the game?

30:54Rich Eisen:Well, first I'm going to give you a compliment and say the beard looks great, dude. dude. I think you ought to just do it for the gala, shave it, and then throw it back. It's given you a certain nuance. I don't know how to describe it. I think it plays into the evil side. You know? But I'll tell you what, though. In all honesty, I don't know what Jalen Brown did go on a little bit last night after he thought he was fouled the ball. He got shoved. I get it. He went on and on and on a little bit too long, but to be ejected from a game that NBC's sitting there, what are we doing? Possible finals preview.

31:34Rich Eisen:Come on now.

31:35Matt Hasselbeck:This has been showcased for a week.

31:37Rich Eisen:He's not a magic word guy usually, right, Jalen Brown? No, and this guy, by the way, he's played this year,

31:43Matt Hasselbeck:top five player in the league. What's going on? Maybe second in MVP. You give him a little more breathing room. It's a second quarter.

31:51Rich Eisen:No, we know what's going on, and you're going to have locker room problems. My locker room is very happy. Coach Michovic and the boys, it's like a fraternity. They're having a blast. And you guys, you've got issues. And your coach doesn't deserve it. He's a good coach. What is wrong with your players? Jimmy, great to reverse it. I don't think there's going to be many problems in that locker room. Thanks for the call, Jimmy. You're the man. See you, bud. Yeah, man, that was a weird thing. That was weird. And it would have been what we're talking about the next day from the NBA the night before if we didn't see what happened in Miami.

32:27Rich Eisen:Our guy, Smich, our digital coordinating producer, said in a thing on a text, I'll give him credit for this, if you gave an NBA fan 83 shots at naming the player who's going to score 83 points in a game, you might not choose Bam Adebayo in your first 83 choices. Right? I disagree with that. You do? 83 choices. In current NBA? In the current NBA. Yeah, Bam. To score 83 points. I'm not, listen, he's being denigrated quite a bit because of the way he got 83 points. Okay, so let me put it this way. The guy doesn't shoot threes all that much, right? I mean, like the guy did have. 20-something last night.

33:12Rich Eisen:Listen, you'd be naming guys who are, you know, big time. I don't want to even go into the whole 83 shots at it. But you might have gotten him maybe, I guess, after 60, 70, 80. I don't know. But congratulations to him is the first thing. I guess I should have let in with that. But it is an unlikely name to say Wilt Bam Kobe now. And he did it. The bottom line is the Washington Wizards suited up last night, and they're not the Washington Generals. They're the Washington Wizards. They suited up last night. And no matter how bad they are, and they're bad, he had to do it. And his stat line is just, the numbers are, they look like misprints.

34:00Rich Eisen:He took 22 threes. He did make seven of them. And half his points were from the, or a little bit less than half his points from the free throw line. He took 43 free throws last night. His 36 made free throws set a record for most free throws attempted and made in a game. Wilt Chamberlain and Adrian Dantley had the free throw record of 28 in a game. That's now 36. And the previous record for attempts in a free throw in a game was Dwight Howard with 39. And he's now, in this game, he shot 43 of them. And if he made every single one of his free throws, he would have scored 90 points last night. And there he is holding up 83 like Will Teldup, 100.

34:47Rich Eisen:And a lot of people are having problems with the way he did it. All I'm saying is he did it. You can't, how many times do I say that, right, from this seat? No matter who the competition is, you got to play against them. And you got to play your best. And if you beat him up, you beat him up. And kudos to Eric Spolstra for leaving him in there because he saw that a record could be had. Kudos to Spolstra. Why not? Dude, he went ahead and let him do it. Why? What's the problem?

35:15Matt Hasselbeck:They're intentionally fouling late in the game that they're up by 30 in. This is embarrassing. Well, that part. That part. The Heat should feel embarrassed. That part. And the league should feel embarrassed. And I'll let O'Shea go scorched earth when he gets here in about 40 minutes because he's going to. But come on. Celebrated? I don't know, man. Cool. You did it. Your name's now in the record book, but this is not going to be celebrated the way Kobe's was. Not even the way Luka and Embiid and those guys who scored high 70s last year is going to be celebrated.

35:51Rich Eisen:This is kind of a joke. Well, his life partner, Aja Wilson, was there last night. And obviously that was big for Bam. And she was with him at the podium afterwards when they were co-celebrating. Came into this league as a defender and a lot after it. And, you know, I really got emotional. It didn't hit me until, like, I hugged her and then I hugged my mom because those two and then obviously my trainers, Ronnie Taylor, Kevin Graves, even Karam Butler. And, you know, those are the emotional moments because they see me, you know, at my lowest behind the scenes. They've seen me, like, at the lowest, at the bottom of the bottom,

36:34Matt Hasselbeck:I'm trying to figure out how to really pick myself up.

36:39Rich Eisen:And, you know, to have this moment and share it with all of them, it's a pretty emotional moment. Like I said, I wish I could relive it twice. So this is a special moment. It's a will, me, then Kobe, which sounds crazy. You know, he's one to root for, right? I mean, he's one to root for. He seems like such a good dude. I love their relationship. I love how he presented Asia with the MVP award last year. I just love – it's someone to root for. In a world where there ain't a lot of people to root for. I know that. But, man, are there some folks who are just not terribly happy with the way that this all went down.

37:17Rich Eisen:People are just ridiculous. I'm sorry. I think Chris points out something that is giving voice to – when you're intentionally fouling, when you're intentionally fouling, and he and he and he and well don't just take my word for it take um you know the rest of the league the way that they're looking at it a lot of salty players well it's not just salty players ime udoka last night was uh after the rockets game uh had this to say about it yeah i mean first thing you think is how you know because of not because of him but because of the way he plays

37:51Matt Hasselbeck:you know and i saw only made six threes but 40 free throws or something like that tells the story right there. And the Washington Wizards. And here's the thing, too. He had 70 with about nine minutes to go, and they're up 25 at that point. If he is taken out of the game, given his proper celebration, this is a big moment today. This is being thought of differently. He's being celebrated. Great performance. Going to be remembered as an all-time, like top five, whatever, top eight scoring moment. Instead, the way they do it, They kind of make a mockery of the game the way it played out the rest of it to try to get him this mark, and now it's being kind of looked down upon today.

38:33Rich Eisen:I feel it's crazy that there are people, when Klay Thompson had his 60 and Reed had 70, the coaches would take them out early, and people, to a man, would sit there and go, I can't believe you took him out. He was this close to the record. Now we've got a guy who doesn't take him out, right? The team is trying to get him the record, and now all of a sudden, it's a mockery. So what is it? Is it a mockery to not leave him in? Is it a mockery to leave him in?

38:58Matt Hasselbeck:It's a mockery that he took 43 free throws. This is a guy who averages less than five free throws per game. And he goes to the line 43 times? Did you watch any of the game?

39:07Rich Eisen:No, zero. Okay, so someone broke down every foul call that was called against Bam Adebayo. You can find it on Twitter. And I'm going to tell you this. There were about five egregious fouls that were called. I'm like, there is no way on earth that should have been a foul. Now, is this late in the fourth quarter? But the fact is, most of those fouls were properly called fouls. He wasn't just going down low. He's shooting jumpers. He's banging. They were triple teaming him, and he was still scoring. He had a great night. A great night. 83 points. You don't get that by accident. I understand both of these points of view.

39:45Rich Eisen:But at the end of the day, his peers. Here's Wemby. Listen to this one. Did you see the fan at 83 tonight? Does that give you any inspiration to go for some of the bigger scoring numbers in league history? Wow. Yeah, I saw. I think there's a replay in the league where there's plenty of inspiration to look up to. but yeah I saw I'm sorry man that's disappointing to me personally I mean that's the player and coach version of the old congratulations that's it especially from Bam Bam is so unproblematic I know that people would be happy but for people to be slandering him and then for people to say it was fixed Well, that's stupid.

40:47Rich Eisen:You're telling me on a random Tuesday in March, Adam Silver is sitting there like, you know what? Today's the day. Let's have that.

40:55Matt Hasselbeck:Well, little losing headlines from the NBA, the World Baseball Classic. How do you get eyes back on the league? Oh, stop it. So they made the call and they said, well, then who are we going to do it? I'm just getting you ready for 40 minutes from now when someone's sitting in that. Well, he's very irrational.

41:10Rich Eisen:All you got to do is look at Twitter last night. I'll push back on that notion. I always will push back on it. Like, honestly, hey, Washington Wizards, you're tanking. You might as well tank so damn hard that Bam Adebayo breaks Kobe's second best record tonight. Like, that's absurd. That's stupid. Also, the Raptors sucked. But I'm also.

41:29Matt Hasselbeck:The Raptors were up 20 in that game. That's fine. Kobe had to score all of that. I'm going to say this.

41:36Rich Eisen:The Wizards are professionals. They showed up and he scored 83 on them. The way that he scored 83 on him, 100 % calls into any sort of, not question or doubt, just it calls for a little bit of measured appreciation. How does that sound? And then on top of it, all you got to do is hear what his peers are saying. I mean, Wemba, Yama, good Lord. And he's from a different generation where you would think like, hey, that's great. More the merrier. He's not American. Uh-huh. Interesting. You know, you know who is American? The starting pitcher for Team Italy. All right. That's another part of the night.

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43:43Rich Eisen:Back here on the Rich Eisen Show talking about the World Baseball Classic. Team Italy is chock full of very talented players, including our buddy Vinny Pasquantino, who's struggling with the bat, but man, can he play first base? I mean, the way that he can get that short hop and make a throw from deep in the hole or from across the diamond appear shorter. What is his wingspan? Yeah, I mean, he's a big guy. His catch radius is outstanding.

44:11Matt Hasselbeck:Yeah, he's a big dude.

44:13Rich Eisen:Team USA is still favored to win this whole thing. Well, the thing is, here's the deal. Over to DR? is that, well, that one would surprise me because the Dominican Republic is stacked. Matching. Okay. They are matching. But the United States may not get the chance. They need Vinny and the rest of Team Italy to win tonight. And if they don't, they need a certain score to happen between Italy and Mexico. And, you know, by the way, the fact that they take shots of espresso and put on an Armani jacket to celebrate a home run. It's fantastic. And if Vinny came up with that, it's on brand, man. Is his pinky out there?

44:54Rich Eisen:It's just phenomenal. It's phenomenal. And they do this all the time. And they do that. And former Yankee, Frankie Cervelli, right? He's the manager. Because I guess Mike Piazza, as Cooper, who's all over this stuff, said he pulled a Brad Stevens, kicked himself upstairs and handed off the reins is what Cooper said. He's a GM, yeah. And they are in position. If they win tonight, they win their pool being undefeated, 4-0, and would send the United States on at 3-1, and Mexico would be 2-2. But if Mexico wins tonight, everyone's 3-1, and it goes to a tie break that I don't want to get too deep in the woods here.

45:40Rich Eisen:It comes down to something other than a round robin of wins and losses. Runs allowed. Correct. So keep an eye on the final score this evening.

45:51Matt Hasselbeck:Basically, if Mexico wins, USA still makes it if both teams score over five runs.

45:56Rich Eisen:Yeah, that's I wrote it out. You're right. Yeah. Here's the deal. If Mexico beats Italy, the United States goes through if Italy scores six or more runs. The United States goes through if Mexico scores five or more runs while winning. And the USA is eliminated if Mexico scores less than five and Italy scores less than six. Now that you know. Cooper wonders if Italy should just lay down to eliminate the United States. And if they're going to do that, that makes them nervous. That Italy is just going to say, we don't care. Lay down how? That's what I said.

46:28Matt Hasselbeck:This side to World War II.

46:30Rich Eisen:You know, oh my God, this guy.

46:32Matt Hasselbeck:That's true. The Italians are losing. They kind of did. We did.

46:35Rich Eisen:i'm not lying and as i turn to coop i'm like yeah they if they lay down i mean how are they gonna go back to you know florence how are they gonna how are they gonna go to tuscany and walk around and look people and their fellow countrymen in the face no free espressos in you know what i mean in any uh geez so yeah it's dicey you know who's really nervous people who pay your paycheck while you're working faders, buddy. Oh, no. Of course we want. We. We. I mean, you and Murdoch, hand in hand. Yeah, you and Shanks. Mike, who were you rooting for last night? Because, you know what I mean? Who cares?

47:21Rich Eisen:Because he's the schmo with the Yankee Dodger hat. That's what I'm saying, though. Honestly. You flip-flop and you're Benedict Tufo. I'm wondering if you were rooting for. He's walking around like Terry Forster in 1976. I root for. That jacket. The games to just be good. I just want good games. Is that what you want? The USA almost came back. It was close. No, he wants the Fox needs the USA to advance. With all due respect. To Italy, exactly. You know. I will renounce my country. He's rooting for Italy tonight. It's a win-win. That's right. It's a win-win. Hour three. Cam Scadaboo is coming up.

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