Hour 2: Chargers’ Blame Game, Drake Maye’s Struggles, plus ESPN’s Chase Daniel

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2:12Rich Eisen:Coming up, ESPN college football analyst Chase Daniel. Actor Jonathan Tucker. And now, it's Rich Eisen. Our number two of the Rich Eisen Show is on the air. Great chat with Pete Golding, hour number one. Jonathan Tucker, the actor, is making his way to our studio in hour number three in support of American Hostage that airs Sundays on MGM. Plus, he's also a diehard Boston sports fan. Go figure that. That'll be for you, Christopher. Tucker. That'll be later on in hour number two of this program. Joining us now to kick off hour three. Kick off hour number two is Chase Daniel back here in the Rich Eyes Show.

2:52Rich Eisen:Good to see you, Chase. How are you? Good, man. How are you doing? I'm doing fine. What's going on? You've got the backwards cap. You're all set to go. Looks like the beard's trimmed for week two of week three of the NFL season. Yeah, beard's trimmed. We're in Conway, South Carolina right now. Flew into Myrtle Beach last night. First time I've ever been there. Landed about midnight all the way from San Diego. So we're calling the Liberty Coastal Carolina game tonight. Primetime ESPN. And I've heard, you know, I've never experienced it, but I've heard it's quite the party here. So they're completely sold out.

3:25Rich Eisen:super super excited about that i love big time college football environments on campus people all jacked up pretty cool man so uh when you see jamis struggle um coming into a game the way that he did um can we can we chalk it up to it's just difficult to be ready to stay ready when you're thrown out there even though he's been a veteran i mean you've been through these wars chase uh what what in the world is it like to be thrown in the middle of a game and and what grace do you think can be afforded from Monday night? It's never easy doing what backup quarterbacks do. I think it's one of the tougher jobs in all the sports outside of being the starter and having to go because think about the process, Rich, and we sort of talked about this.

4:11It's the process through the week of what the backup quarterback does. Jameis Winston took zero reps with the first team offense whatsoever really since the start of training camp. I don't even know if he took any with the training camp. So not only does the offensive line has to get used to this cadence, he doesn't have any throwing reps with the one receivers. And so he was running the scout team, which means you're running the other team's offense. And so you don't get any of those reps. I think with a whole week of practice, he will be better. But Janus did not look good at all. And there's got to be a certain situation if you're a Giants fan of like, man, just the hope that we had was so high in this team that all of a sudden Jackson Dart, you know, out for the year, he gets hurt.

4:58Malik Nabors sort of messes up his shoulder. There's some other injuries going back there. And, you know, Isaiah likely looks good, but it's just teams do this. And they, and I think Jameis is one of the better backup quarterbacks. I'm hopeful he will play well but since 2021 rich i think 11 quarterbacks on average make it through the season unhurt unscathed so backup quarterbacks you know i'm the backup quarterback fan club right here because i was one for 14 years of my career you got to find ways to stay ready even if you're getting scout team reps and you're not actually getting starter reps but he should be better this

5:35Rich Eisen:week well you know the most popular player in football is the backup quarterback right and And then until he's not, if he plays bad, which means the only other player in the NFL that's more popular in the backup quarterback is someone else's backup quarterback. When yours plays like hot garbage, you know what I mean? And so everything in New York conversation, Giants fandom right here on this program, you know, I'm here and Hey, let's see, let's see if Philip Rivers is interested. And Chris, you said lobbing a call to Russell Wilson. He's already in New York for CBS and, you know, and, and so, So I just think that the Giants' first order of business, while they may be looking for down the road, they've got to get Jameis ready because whoever might come down the road is not going to walk through that door and be inserted right away a la Philip Rivers had to be last year.

6:26Rich Eisen:So what do you think the Giants' plan is for Jameis? Like what do they do knowing what he does well and what they can do well with him, Chase? Well, one, I think offensive coordinator Matt Nagy He needs to build the entire game plan around what Jameis is good at, because it's completely different than what Dart is, and Jameis is better throwing the football in the middle of the field, this play-action type stuff. You've got to get the run game. I think they're going to give him a week or two. I know all options are on the table, but let's just see how he does with a week of practice. My short list for guys that I would love to see in New York, because I do think New York, they have a roster that is really good.

7:02If they can stay healthy, obviously, you know, the rest of the season Jackson Dart is gone. like I wouldn't mind calling down to Dallas for Joe Milton I wouldn't mind getting on the horn for Mac Jones even though it's going to be a little bit more difficult I wouldn't mind getting on the horn for Jimmy Garoppolo those are the type of guys that I would call Joe Milton's a lot easier I don't think Mac Jones I mean I I think teams understand that letting go of a legitimate backup quarterback is is going to be tough you'd have to get a high round pick on that but Jimmy Dree makes a lot of sense it I just all options for me would be on the table because you to me have one of the better rosters in the NFC East and your defense is playing well you can't let a quarterback injury this early derail your entire season um and it's just it's tough to see man Chase Daniel

7:52Rich Eisen:here on the Rich Eisen show getting set to call some college football on ESPN tonight from the great state of South Carolina let's talk about Justin Herbert our neighbors across the way here in El Segundo, California. What have you seen? Because there's a lot of conversation about fingers pointing in the media, not in the building, but a lot of conversation about McDaniel's offense is just not going to work or Herbert's not ready for it or they didn't get enough reps and there's just no way through all this or all they need is time. Where do you stand on this, Chase? Well, they're running out of time, Rich, right?

8:26They're 0-2. And by the way, they played the Raiders and the Cardinals. I know the Raiders are better than people think, but those are two. And then you look at the gauntlet of the next seven games. There's a real possibility. And I'm not just being hyperbolic that they could be three and six or two and seven through the next seven. I mean, look at the next games at Buffalo, at Seattle, Denver, KC, you got to buy to sort of get healthy Rams in Houston and in Baltimore. Like, like it does not get any easier. I think when you look at the film, um, offensively, it just looks disconjointed. And I know a lot of discourse over here on social media and everyone about Justin Herbert, and he has not played well whatsoever.

9:08Like he could play better. There's been a ton of drops. Like other than if you look at that roster, really on offense and defense, other than Ladd McConkie and probably the two tackles, Rashawn Slater, Joe Walt, who has played well. There just hasn't been a lot of guys around him to play well. Now, here's the thing that I want to see. I want Justin Herbert to raise his level of play because that's sort of been the whole thing with Herbie. Still hasn't won a playoff game. No one expected them to go 0-2, especially when you have Mike McDaniel, who you're thinking is going to get the run game going, who you're thinking is going to get the play action and unlocking him under center.

9:48It just hasn't gone as planned, and it just gets more difficult. I mean, this is a must. This is a must win this week for sure.

9:57Rich Eisen:Against the Bills, man. as you point out in high mark and they're coming off of a mini buy i mean stranger things have happened and you know how teams can bond on a road trip which which two uh two three whatever you want to throw out there teams if you still can't figure out we started this this show with uh for real or for gazy a new segment that we literally made up an hour before we went on the air um and so which teams are you just still entering week three wondering who they really are. I think there's, there's two, one place tonight and it's the green Bay Packers. When you look at the green Bay Packers, just in the off season and you look at what they're building, you look Jordan love to me as a guy who's trending up LaFleur, offensive genius, all this stuff.

10:45And then all of a sudden, like you got offensive lines, that's hurts. You have your, your, you know, Receiver is hurt. And all of a sudden, this offense is literally the worst in the league, the worst at run pass block rate in terms of offensive line. A lot of different moving pieces. And Jordan Love can only do so much. He needs some people around him to really step up. But I've just been flabbergasted a little bit with just how they've been sequencing plays and just how this can joint it. I know you use that word, but it just it doesn't look like a lot of things make sense defensively on that side of the ball.

11:24Like, I think they're playing really well. I think their defense is going to have to carry them. I think this is a must win for the Packers, but offensively more so than that. They got to start hitting plays down the field. And then really the other one. And I know they started 0-3 last year, so I'm not really pushing the panic button is Houston Texans. Like I think the quarterback play, specifically C.J. Stroud in Houston, it's taken a step up from last year. But that defense has taken a step down. The run game that they go and get David Montgomery hasn't really panned out to what they want to be.

11:57I just think teams like this, they got to figure out what their identity is. Usually it takes three or four weeks to do that. Getting an 0-3 hole would be really difficult to come out of it. I know they did last year, but they got to start winning some football games. I know they will, though.

12:14Rich Eisen:Yeah, they're like the Chargers. They lost their first two at home, except the Houston Texans lost to the Bills and the Bengals. Good teams, right? Yeah. And the Bengals appear to be, I know I just went a little higher register there. The Bengals are a team that for the first time in a long time, we're talking about how their defense is getting them through some of these games so far, Chase. And when they traded for Dexter Lawrence, I'm like, oh, you're trading for a nose guard and a 3-4 right over. And I'm like, okay, they traded away some good draft capital. I'm thinking, okay, is this going to pay off?

12:48Is it not? And you look at the first two games and the tape on Dexter Lawrence. He's the immovable object. I mean, he is wreaking havoc. And it starts up front because if you can get pressure on the quarterback a lot earlier and you can stop these guys on rundowns, the secondary can sort of sit and wait for that ball to come out a little bit faster. So I've just been really impressed defensively. I'm glad they got Jamar Chase going. I think he had one or two catches week one, two touchdowns, big touchdowns in Houston. And you really just look at the rest of the schedule. I know we're talking schedule talk.

13:21It's only week three, but man, it's one of the easiest in the NFL. And so if you can continue to just win these games that you're supposed to, I mean, you're looking at a team that could easily end up 12 and five, 13 and four. if you win the games and if you stay healthy, if you keep Joe Burrow upright. Whose film has really blown you away? Well, I mean, who'd you have? I was watching the show the other day. Who'd you have on the show that said the film for Brock Purdy was outstanding? Yeah, Kurt. And I love Kurt. He's on his – I would totally agree with that. But you watch Purdy play this year, more so than any other year, way more in control.

14:08And I know that viral quote went going on the internet about him not being able to see 40 % of the time he throws because he's a little bit shorter guy. The anticipation, the accuracy, the efficiency at which he does it. And they got weapons. They just signed Brandon Cooks, but Kittle looks good. I mean, you got Kyle Juszczyk catching corner routes out of the backfield. Mike Evans, I think he's going to be OK. I think he's going to be fine. But like he's completely unlocked that offense because he pulls coverage away from those other guys. And if you really look at CMC, hasn't really gotten going yet.

14:42But I just think the command, I mean, some of the plays, there was three that I highlighted from that Dolphins game that just really stood out. Like, I don't know how many quarterbacks in the world can make that throw. So the key for him is staying consistent and also just continuing to make these really timing layered throws that we continue to see out of them.

15:02Rich Eisen:And how about let's let's give Drew Locke a little bit of love here. Right. Because the the the listen, it helps have a massive defense that with a with a coach who can dial it up to help out. But the combination of backup quarterback thrown into the mix, out of the blue, plus new offensive coordinator, usually equals disaster. Yeah. It also helps to have the offensive player of the year come out of the gate the way JSN has as well, right? Yeah. But what do you think about Seattle's opportunity here to go into Washington, D.C., and take on Mariota and make some hay out of it? What do you think about that?

15:42Yeah, look, I'm a big Drew Locke fan, not only because he went to the University of Missouri, M-I-Z-Z-O-U, but the fact is he has always been sort of the steady hand. I really like his demeanor. It's like borderline cocky but confident. And I think the reason, Rich, why he is playing so well early in the season is because he played a lot in the preseason. You watch his preseason film. It's not just in practice. It's not just training camp. You're getting actual reps on the field. And so for him to just sort of understand, to have a whole week of practice last weekend to go into the Cardinals. And I mean, like you said, JSN is the best or one of the best receivers in the game.

16:22Just throw it up to him. He's down there somewhere. I think the thing that I'm most interested about is how much polish he has just running that team while Sam Darnold is gone. Don't know if he's going to play again or this year, this week or not. Look, saw him out on the practice field yesterday. but it's it is I don't think you understand and just not you but just people in general just how difficult it is one to be put in a spot to play right away like from game one you hadn't practiced anything and then to get a whole week and just has kept them afloat all season long

16:54Rich Eisen:it's been impressive Baker Rogers Drake May and let's throw one more in the mix here about the quarterback you're most concerned about let's go with well I mean Herbert you could throw that one in there as well but hurts let's throw hurts in the mix yeah which quarterback are you most concerned about over the next month um i look i think the drake may uh stuff is fascinating i do think the film through the first two weeks is a little alarming uh but he's got josh wadano's i think they'll figure it out herbert you know i think they had six or seven drops the first couple weeks i think he's fine um baker has the weapons um hurts has been doing it i guess if i had to pick one it would be baker right now i just i think after that extension all that talk and everything like that um just looks like he's pressing a little bit but here's the thing like he's so confident in his ability and like i watched him on the quarterback show and and just really have appreciated the way he's handled um a lot of these opportunities and um it'll be good i mean i think i think too like you you talked about hurts i've been sort of um you know loud about him not playing the position really well, I would say this year he's been better than advertised.

18:12I think the Sean Mannion offense with him has been really good. I think he had seven or nine third-down conversions. He's throwing the football a little bit more in the middle of the field. They got him under center a little bit more. So he's one I think is trending up. I think sometimes as a quarterback, when you have a legitimate number-one receiver like you did with A.J. Brown, you sort of lock on to him, right? He's gone. And now I think people around him are stepping up and really haven't even seen Saquon get going. That offensive line to me is a little bit of an issue. Losing Jeff Statlin hurts.

18:43But yeah, a lot of good quarterback play so far through two weeks in the NFL.

18:47Rich Eisen:Last one for you. The final game of week three, right here on the Disney Family of Networks, pal. Case Keenum might get this start. And, you know, he was very complimentary of Ben Johnson. I don't know if you heard that soundbite. We've got that queued up for our audience later on. What do you think, man? I mean, what an opportunity. Guys backing up commercials, you know, and backing up trailers and commercials, thinking like that's the way it's going to go from here on out. And then, boom, Monday night football against the Philadelphia Eagles for the Chicago Bears and Ben Johnson. What do you think is going through his scope?

19:27I think he's excited to play. You know, I was with him this summer, and him and I are pretty good friends, and just talking about how he hasn't had as much fun playing football that he's had the last few years under Ben Johnson, really in all of his life, including his Houston days in college. I think, one, it's a big spot for him. I think that Vic Fangio defense, you know, they play a lot of two-eye safety shell. They're going to present a lot of problems for him. It's hard when you don't get a lot of reps when you're a third quarterback. He was pretty much a coach helping Caleb, and then all of a sudden Caleb goes down, then all of a sudden Tyson Bajent is in concussion protocol.

20:00but if anyone can steady the ship, it's going to be a guy like Case Keenum. You don't have to have him win the game for you. You got to keep it close. You got to play good defense. You got to run the football. And the Bears, to me, are one of the best running teams in all of football. And so what better way to protect the third string quarterback like Case? He's had a lot of playing time in the NFL. He understands protection checks. He understands run game checks. Maybe you can do a little bit more with the run game check system that Ben Johnson has. But ultimately, he's going to have to make plays on third down and red zone.

20:29I think that's the biggest thing for him. Take care of the football, get into the flow of things, and you really just got to run the football.

20:36Rich Eisen:All right. So tonight, Liberty at Coastal Carolina, you're on the call. I look forward to checking you out, pal. Appreciate you guys. Have a good broadcast. Thank you. Travel safe. That's Chase Daniel, everybody, right here on the Rich Eisen Show, getting set to call. Liberty Flames at Coastal Carolina Chanticleers. Ooh, Chanticleers. Right here. Do you know what a Chanticleer is? I was just about to ask that. Is it that thing that hangs down from the ceiling? That's one thing? Yeah. That's where I was going to go. Nope. So you've got to put wax in your ears so you don't hear them singing. Oh, it's a siren.

21:11Rich Eisen:That's not true. I have no idea what a Chanticleer is. Oh, really? I thought you might have. I have no clue. I have no clue. Oh, man. The musical ensemble. Oh, it's a rope. Hold on a second. Why should I ask Chase? Chase, come back in here. What's a Chanticleer? I was just loving watching you guys. Yeah, it's a rooster. Yeah, Chanticleer and a flame. You got a rooster and a flame tonight. Pretty crazy. You don't usually mix those two things. No, you do not. Not at all. Head on a swivel. Certainly since what you're describing in the town, there could be some swing oil to ignite. So be careful. No doubt.

21:46Rich Eisen:Flames and Chanticleers and swing oil. Be careful. Tune in. It could be great television. Tune in. That's a new fantasy name. Case Daniel, everybody. Thank you so much. See, he's got all the answers. Let's go. All the answers. Next time we get some time with Chase, I got to ask him if he remembers come to my birthday party one year. Okay. Wow. We'll do that. Wow. What is going on? Great sound does more than just fill a room. It pulls you into a moment, people. The build up before a big game. The score of a great film. A song that takes you somewhere else. This is why I use Sonos at home. It's a system built to work together in every room.

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