In short
The Rich Eisen Show Hour 2 covers NFL fallout and playoff implications. It opens with a Chargers vs. Steelers recap: Pittsburgh’s offense struggled (2-of-11 on third down), Aaron Rodgers was pressured, and the Chargers’ Khalil Mack produced a sack-safety. The Steelers’ kicker missed too, and the loss erases a prior AFC North lead shift. Key claim: the Chargers’ 7-3 record keeps them firmly in the division race, while the Steelers’ cushion shrinks to about one game over the Ravens. The AFC North odds segment focuses on Lamar Jackson’s turnaround after a rough start; with a win over Minnesota, Jackson reaches 73 wins in his first 100 starts and the Ravens move closer to first.
Notable examples
Snoop Huntley’s post-bye win over Chicago; Joe Burrow’s expected return window (21 days).
Guests
none named in this transcript (it’s host + callers).
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOGiants Part Ways with Dayball
0:30 to 0:56
Rich discusses the Giants' decision to part ways with Brian Dayball and the appointment of Mike Kafka as interim coach.
“No one goes to Hank's for his spreadsheets.”
Giants Part Ways with Dayball
1:30 to 2:40
Rich discusses the Giants' decision to part ways with Brian Dayball and the appointment of Mike Kafka as interim coach.
“Roquan Smith just decapitated Aaron Jones.”
Chargers vs. Steelers Recap
2:40 to 4:05
Rich recaps the Chargers' victory over the Steelers and the implications for both teams.
“like maybe Dayball would go back in time right now and try and go for a touchdown on the half-yard line rather than settling for a field goal.”
Steelers' Struggles and Playoff Implications
4:05 to 6:40
Rich analyzes the Steelers' performance and their playoff chances after a tough loss.
“the Jews right now are pulling over their car laughing.”
Ravens' Momentum and AFC North Dynamics
6:40 to 9:30
Rich discusses the Ravens' recent performance and the shifting dynamics in the AFC North.
“Last thing you want to be, man, coming out of this mix is you're only a half game above the team or a game and a half.”
Potential Returns and Future Matchups
9:30 to 14:03
Rich speculates on the return of Joe Burrow and upcoming matchups in the AFC North.
“I'm just telling you guys what happened.”
Steelers Fans and Horror Movie Analogies
14:03 to 19:44
The hosts discuss the state of the Steelers and draw parallels to horror movie scenarios.
“And I know this is like the Steelers fans thinking this is a horror movie.”
AFC North Update and Upcoming Games
19:44 to 19:57
An update on the AFC North standings and what to expect in upcoming games.
“When we come back, we'll talk about the Bears, Leonard Williams and the Seahawks, still to come here on this busy Monday.”
Michael from Arkansas Calls in About the Steelers
21:07 to 28:00
Listener Michael shares his thoughts on Tomlin's coaching and the Steelers' performance.
“If high-interest credit card debt is grinding you down, it might be time to call an Audible with a SoFi personal loan.”
Discussion on Coaching Changes for the Giants
28:00 to 29:18
Exploring the need for a new head coach for the Giants and the potential candidates.
“We need to bring a legitimate head coach in there to help run this organization that knows what the hell he's doing.”
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Debate on Bill Belichick as Giants Coach
29:18 to 33:10
Examining the implications of hiring Bill Belichick for the Giants' future.
“And I know, again, this is middle of the season, and it's stirring something up.”
Tribute to Paul Tagliabue
33:10 to 40:33
Reflecting on the impact and legacy of former NFL Commissioner Paul Tagliabue.
“And obviously, the NFL Network is not born without Paul Tagliabue's stewardship.”
Game Highlights and Insights
43:17 to 47:26
Discussion on recent game highlights, player performances, and playoff implications.
“I guess obviously there wasn't a blowout with Houston coming back from 19 down on Jacksonville.”
Transcript
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2:00Rich Eisen:Our number two of the Rich Eisen Show is on the air. Hello, ESPN Radio, presented by a progressive insurance audience listening to us. Sirius XM audience, hello to you. If you're listening to us on our podcast, we appreciate it. All three hours available. At the same spot, you can listen to the latest episode of Overreaction Monday, recorded before the show, meaning recorded before we learned, as we did in about the last 20 minutes, that the New York Giants have parted ways with Brian Dayball. So we've got a new interim coach in the National Football League, and it belongs to the New York Giants, Mike Kafka.
2:30Rich Eisen:The offensive coach that's been around there, Philadelphia as well, he's going to be taking the reins of the New York Giants, who lost in Chicago yesterday despite leading 20-10 instead of 24-10, like maybe Dayball would go back in time right now and try and go for a touchdown on the half-yard line rather than settling for a field goal. The Giants will be visiting, going back home to take on the Packers next before they go to Detroit. and then a Thursday night visit to New England. So that's only against a 5-2-1, 6-3, and 8-2 teams. Good luck, Mike Kafka, in that gig. 844-204, rich number to dial.
3:10Rich Eisen:Leonard Williams of the 7-2 Seahawks after boat racing Arizona, getting set to take on the equally now 7-2 Rams after they boat raced the 49ers in the spot where Super Bowl 60 is going to be going down in February. 844-204, rich number to dial. We'll take your phone calls in a matter of moments. Don't you worry about all that. So I'm, again, fortunate to do what I do for a living here and NFL Network and other opportunities that come my way, as you know. I'm able to globetrot calling games. Call you Metal Ark Rich. Thank you, sir. I appreciate that. Oh, God. Metal Ark Eisen. Metal Ark Lime. Oh, there you go.
3:54Rich Eisen:Okay. Or Kerber. Anyway, Metal Lark Etrog for those. It's a Sukkot reference for all those non-Jews out there. At any rate, the Jews right now are pulling over their car laughing. Listen, I've been able to call and see a couple Chargers games in person. One of them I called. I called a Chargers home victory in Brazil. And last night as a spectator, I watched a Chargers road victory in Los Angeles. because that was a road game. It sure was. In the home of the Chargers last night. I don't care what they're, you know, with the Bugles and first down and all the Charger PA guys screaming and yelling at me for four quarters.
4:37Rich Eisen:Look at that shot on the screen. That's not Pittsburgh PA. That was SoFi Stadium on Sunday night. Torrible towels out there. Dude. My buddy has Charger tickets. He texted us that he went to the bathroom, and it was 40 Steeler fans and him. Honestly. Honestly. but the chargers fans were the one last standing and and and they're the ones who know you got to beat the traffic you got to get going there was one shot on the oculus last night when it was 22 to 3 or 20 whatever the hell the score was at the time and they had they showed the fans leaving en masse and the charger fans who were there were just giddy excited a bit because this team that is down their all-world left tackle only to be replaced by their terrific future right tackle moving to left tackle and Rashawn Slater and Joe Ault, they're missing those guys.
5:32They were the ones who were delivering the blows to the team that turned the Colts over six times last week in the Steelers. And the Steelers drew blood first with their serial killer of a kicker hitting one from in the middle of the lightning bolt in the middle of the stadium from 59, 60 yards out. But Khalil Mack got things rolling for the Chargers
5:55Rich Eisen:with a sack safety of Aaron Rodgers beginning a very long night for the Pittsburgh Steelers offense. Very long night. Steelers went 2 of 11 on third down. You are not winning football games. Giving up a sack for a safety, unable to protect your quarterback, not getting the chunk plays down the field, and certainly putting your defense back on the field because you can't convert a third down for your life. Jalen Warren had another nice game, but Aaron Rodgers, it looked brutal last night. He couldn't do anything. And you got to tip the cap to the Chargers on that front because they watched the Broncos go to 8-2 and the Chiefs are sitting at home on a bye week at 5-4.
6:40Last thing you want to be, man, coming out of this mix is you're only a half game above the team or a game and a half. Let's put it as one game in the loss column without putting more distance between you and the Chiefs after you beat them in week one. And you've beaten everyone in your division.
7:01Rich Eisen:So just keep winning these games. You've already won games in division. And win a game like this in the AFC, this is a massive win for the Chargers. absolutely massive win for the Chargers who are now 7-3 as opposed to 6-4 over the Chiefs had to have it they are in the mix for this division 100 % and then the Steelers I mean even in week 6 when they're 4-1 coming off their bye after winning that game in Cleveland or against Cleveland at home and they're 4-1 and the Ravens lose to the Rams and they're all banged up. They're injured. They're 1-5. Even at that point in time, there's still people saying this is the Ravens division.
7:58And the Steelers
7:59Rich Eisen:had a 2.5 game lead after week 6. They're going to enter week 11 with a one game lead. That's it. And the Ravens offense is cooking. Even though it's not easy against Minnesota. But the Ravens are now a game behind the Steelers. And the Steelers win over the Colts. That just got erased by the Los Angeles Chargers last night. In front of the home faithful. And by that, I'm referring to the Steelers fans who were there last night. Really. I mean, it's loud in that building. It always is loud in that building. Because neither Los Angeles home team can let you sit in that stadium in silence for a split second.
8:40Rich Eisen:And I'm not talking about the fans. But I sound like an old man on the front lawn. I should not. Your text message did seem a little front lawn. Listen, SoFi is an incredible stadium. Like you go in there, it's like you're watching a game through VR goggles. It's unbelievable. But long story short, it is a wild, wildly missed opportunity by a Steelers team that could not do anything well last night. Other than, I guess, not even kick, right? I mean, their kicker, their serial killer of a kicker missed one, too, which was a surprise. And Mike Tomlin was chippy with the media after the game, and I can't blame him.
9:22I'm not lacking confidence. I don't need a pat on the back. We stunk it up tonight. We'll be back. Is it just one of those games, literally? I'm not trying to frame it in any way. I'm just telling you guys what happened. You guys write the narrative. How did you assess narrative performance tonight? How about you? Next. Do you think you're going to run the ball more often? Guys, like 0 for 9 or 10 on third down, you're not going to have enough snaps. Like, we've been over that discussion a lot.
9:56Rich Eisen:Next. A lot of nexts. Something out of the Drew Rosenhaus press conference lexicon. Next question. um rogers talked about he was a little bit off is what he said i've got to play better i will if it's better checks if it's better throws whatever it is i got to play better i will well they have to because it's now one game difference and i'll tell you what you finish second place in this division you might not you might not make the playoffs you may not make the playoffs. This may be a one team situation. Oh, and by the way, guess who in the middle of this soliloquy on the AFC North is just returned to practice in limited capacity.
10:45His name is Joe Burrow. Heard of him. There you go.
10:52Rich Eisen:I knew he wasn't going to sit around and go, oh, we're three and six. Oh, we might be three and seven. I'm not coming back. God bless. A doctor may step in. Mike Brown may step in. I don't know what's going to happen. But boy, have the Steelers had that four-in-one situation leading a Ravens team at one and five and a Bengals team that was clearly, after six weeks of this campaign, struggling with Jake Browning. Now they look towards Flacco. They've only won once since. This is now you'd look at the Ravens and it was everybody could see it coming, right? The Ravens at one and five coming off their bye with Lamar coming back.
11:41Rich Eisen:Everyone's like, here we go. And then Snoop Huntley had a start. That win, that win with Snoop Huntley is something that we may be looking back towards the end of this season. Once the regular season in January hits and then moving into the later parts of January, We may be talking about that win by Snoop Huntley coming out of the bye at home against Chicago, which that win only looks more and more impressive. Like we take a look at it in terms of college football terms, right? Victories that become stronger as another team begins to get stronger after you beat them. This is now two wins in a row with Lamar being back.
12:21Rich Eisen:The defense, though, that's the answer. That's the one. the defense that in the first five games of the season uh giving up 37 points to kansas city that was their best in terms of points allowed in those five games and then the defense gave up 17 of the rams puka did get hurt in that game but it's still a rams team that we've seen what stafford's done since then it's done nothing but throw touchdowns and no interceptions and the only done is keep winning 16 points against the bears six against Miami and 19 against the Vikings yesterday that's the win and now they're at Cleveland and home for the Jets and then they got Cincinnati who knows three weeks from now if Joe if Joe's limited now maybe they come back that would be amazing prime video is basically begging for that to be a Burrow return game in week 13 if not You'll see Burrow maybe Week 15 against the Ravens.
13:19Rich Eisen:They've got two against the Ravens. The Ravens have two against Cincinnati and two against Pittsburgh left. Their next game is at Cleveland, which is announced. It's still Dylan Gabriel's show after the Browns lost to the Jets. Jets, who are now, by the way, 2-0 against Ohio, and then winless against the rest of where football is played in America or internationally. Somehow that makes you feel just a little bit. Oh, listen, you know I love when somebody can say, oh, we don't lose against Ohio. At any rate, I digress. Tom Petty. But the Ravens, this is kind of like right now, playing out like one of those horror movies.
14:03Rich Eisen:And I know this is like the Steelers fans thinking this is a horror movie. It's like those horror movies. It's just like, okay, listen. Don't you see the guy with the axe standing right there in your shed? Why are you walking outside without your phone or no lights on? What are you doing? You know, the calls are coming from within the house. You really going to go down to the basement? By yourself, knowing what's happening? I mean, you're walking to the basement in a movie with the words Halloween in the title. By yourself? Yeah, come on. Don't you hear that noise with the hockey mask guy standing outside like he's Ashton Gentry waiting for a handoff?
14:44Rich Eisen:Could never be me. Listen, it's happening. It's happening. Everybody saw it coming. Ravens are only a game out of first place. And Lamar, again, what are we, we don't call it a balaclava. What are we calling this? Oh, a shysty. A shysty? Okay. I mean, indoor shy-sty, outdoor shy-sty, 80-degree shy-sty. He's still wearing it because he's coming for you with his shy-sty. Hit it. Do you feel this team has turned a corner yet? Yeah, but, you know, there's still a lot of ball left. You know, we've got to stay locked down. Can't be complacent or nothing like that. You know, we've got to stay locked down.
15:27You know, everyone's happy when they win, you know, but I feel like our mood hasn't changed. You know, we're still locked down. And, you know, we still feel like we won in the Falco. We're still behind, you know, in our division. So we got to, like I said, can't get in a place to stay locked down.
15:38Rich Eisen:Yeah, I look at him like I look sometimes at some of these guys in the gym here in Los Angeles, you know, with their pimples in spots where there shouldn't be pimples. And they're wearing these winter hats working out. And I'm like, listen, where I'm from, that's a necessity, not an accessory. You know, that's a cold weather gear. Why? I can't get over it. Why is he wearing it? They played in a dome yesterday. indoors he played in south florida that just might be a cultural thing because i'd be wearing scullies okay you know but that is a mask that is like it's zero degrees and i need to feel my face after you know what he does you know what if you're the ravens it's just like you be you man no ping pong tables we get it long-term deal we got it because all he does is win football games With the win in Minnesota yesterday, he now has 73 wins in his first 100 career starts.
16:32Rich Eisen:His first 100th career start was in Minnesota. Look at the names he's on this list. Most quarterback wins in his first 100 career starts in NFL history. He's fourth on the list. That win yesterday separated him from the snake, Ken Stabler. Once upon a time, as you know, studied plays from the light of a jukebox. I see five Hall of Fame. Three behind Staubach and Brady, five behind Mahomes. And everybody on that list are Hall of Famers or future ones. How about that 73 % win percentage for Lamar Jackson? Not bad for a converted receiver, right? Still waiting on Bill Pullian. Still waiting for that route tree to be on.
17:18By the way, guess what?
17:19Rich Eisen:They might be able, if Bill Pullian, knock on wood, may he be so lucky, can one day be at that induction ceremony and be able to, as Lamar unveils his bust with the jacket put on him, say, yeah, sorry I made you say no to working out at the combine as something other than a quarterback. Is Lamar's bust going to have one of those? Yes. Was it the first time to shysty bust? Why not? By the way, that would be great. I can't believe these are words I'm saying, but hey, man. Lamar's shysty bust. Is there any question the Ravens aren't winning this division right now? Bueller? Bueller? I would be stunned if they didn't.
18:00Like I said, the Steelers had a path, and that path has been blocked.
18:05Rich Eisen:No, no, it's not. That's the point I'm trying to make. It's not blocked, and it's not over. But you're not feeling good about it. Would you bet your firstborn? No, I would not. Definitely not his third. Again, I told you, was it two, three weeks ago? I look at the Ravens' schedule, and I don't know the next time I won't be picking against them. And it may be that game against the Patriots if the Patriots keep winning. But New England's got to go to Baltimore. Man, some old school stuff right there, right? John Harbaugh against the newest Patriot. I'm not, you know, a victory-laden team. That's the only way I'm going to go and call them right now for New England.
18:47Rich Eisen:But again, two against Cincinnati, two against Pittsburgh, and their next two are against Cleveland and the Jets, who I think it's amazing. For the second straight week, we saw the clocks turn back. One actual and one figurative. Browns and the Jets turned back the clock. You know, remember my higher register? My higher register last week was that the Jets, despite everything that happened. We're probably going to beat down the Browns. Well, my higher register last week, the Jets are going to win more than you think. And his higher register was about Caleb Williams, right? Caleb Williams. I think he's fair.
19:27Rich Eisen:Yeah, which is why, Del Tufo, you were wrong in going higher register about that. That was a good segment. Because it really was. You don't have to go higher register about it. I love checking our work. Despite the fact how long it takes to get to that point. All right, that's your AFC North update. Let's take a break. Take your phone calls. When we come back, we'll talk about the Bears, Leonard Williams and the Seahawks, still to come here on this busy Monday.
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21:40ESPN Radio presented by Progressive Insurance along with Disney Plus and the ESPN feed as well. We're live streaming every single day. Let's go to Michael in Arkansas. You're here on the Rich Eisen Show. What's up, Michael? Rich, I'm doing, I guess, okay. I thought I was going to end up jumping off a building last night after watching my Steelers. Nothing like the 60s. I'm sorry to hear that but you seem in good spirits this morning though Michael I'm getting better as I go along once I had my cup of coffee and sitting here relaxing in 25 degree weather but I have a serious question for you Rich it's been a couple of years since I've spoken to you do you still think Tomlin should be our head coach why are you looking at me like that chris why are you looking at me i'm just you know i'm awaiting your response chris knows what does he know michael he knows what does he know um i know what you know i i let's put it this way i think he's a hall of fame head coach
22:54Rich Eisen:I think he is remarkable at plugging into the athlete. I think he is remarkable at taking the passion for football and instilling it in a team. And I think that if this falls apart, I wouldn't be surprised if the Steelers finally say, let's figure something out, and then Tomlin shows up somewhere else. Like the Giants. And let me ask you, if I may. The Giants wouldn't be a bad spot. I think Tomlin is 100 % going to be a coach in this league for as long as he wants to be. But I totally understand that Steeler fans are like, we're done with seeing something that has flashes of excellence in the regular season only to wane prior to the playoffs.
23:42Rich Eisen:This wane is now the middle of the season. But we are still, let's be honest, eight days removed. One week ago, we were talking about how the Steelers look terrific and the Colts, maybe they turn him back into a pumpkin. and the reverse happened. And I'm telling you, last night was a home game. Last night was 100 % a home game for the Steelers, and they just blew it. But you've got to tip the cap to the Chargers, though. The Steelers have become the retirement home. Wilson last year, Aaron Rodgers this year. I mean, if we can get them to stop burning the incense out there and maybe come alive a little bit, we might have something.
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24:22Like every throw, and again, I get it was just last night, and he's done some good things, but come on. I mean, do we not have Will Howard on our team? Oh, well, he was hurt. No, you're not turning to Will Howard, nor Mason Rudolph,
24:38Rich Eisen:which was brought up by Chris, I'm assuming tongue a little bit in cheek because it was an overreaction Monday subject matter on our podcast. And thanks for the call, Michael. It's Rodgers. That's what the Jets did for two years. it's it's rogers is you put your eggs in that basket which is why i would have gone ahead and gotten another receiver in the trade deadline tech with the fourth fifth or sixth round draft choice let's go i mean let's go they they're clearly missing a gear on offense i don't know why he can't connect with dk metcalf in the same way that you know he did uh on occasion with with garrett wilson i don't know why that is i have i have no idea but something just isn't working It's not clicking a little bit off is what Rogers called himself on Sunday night.
25:23Rich Eisen:And the next final eight games are a measuring stick, as they should be. It is the National Football League. The good news is you're going to finish up your series with Cincinnati prior to Joe Burrow returning, which our friend Jay Glazer just tweeted out from Fox that he is expecting Joe Burrow's 21 day window that just opened in the early parts of this hour for him to return from it. which means in the next three weeks, you're going to see Joe Burrow, and that might be a week 13 Cincinnati date against San Francisco, pardon me, against Baltimore on that Thanksgiving night, by the way. You think NBC's rooting for that one on Thanksgiving night, that Burrow returns on Thanksgiving night?
26:08Rich Eisen:Just in time to potentially save that season again, if their season is savable. And then after that, you can send Rodgers to Chicago and hope that he finds that magic there again, which wouldn't be surprised if he did home against Buffalo, which at this point in time could be hit or miss on which bills team shows up. Is it the one that beat the chiefs? The one that smoked the Carolina Panthers or the ones that just got beat in Miami, similar to the way that they got beat in Atlanta, which one is that going to show up? And then you do have a Monday night home date against Miami, where I imagine Mike McDaniels will look as cold as they always do whenever they're on the road.
26:48at Detroit before two home dates, let's go. I mean, you're not making a change. You're not going to Mason Rudolph or Will Howard. It just isn't it. You've got a guy neck up who's one of the best ever,
27:02Rich Eisen:and if physically he can do the stuff like he did against Cincinnati, in Cincinnati to win that game, or against the Colts to help win that game on the defensive side, finally catching up to what the offense was doing with Rodgers, then you can win more games. This might be a little bit knee-jerk, but it does look like the Ravens are coming to try and take him straight out. And if the Ravens go from 1-5 to beat a team that went from 4-1 or whatever they are, maybe it is time for the Steelers to just sit down with Tomlin and say, where do you want to go? Because we'll let you set that up. Certainly if the Giants are raising their hands saying, we'll take you, Mike Tomlin, you can coach up that defense and let's find the offensive coordinator for Dart.
27:45Just as an example, ripped straight from the headlines of our number two of this week 10 Monday edition of the Rich Eisen Show. Alan Dallas, what's up, Albert?
27:56And I'm in right now for what you said. I mean, we've had seven coaches since Tomlin's been in Pittsburgh. It's got to stop. I mean, it has to stop. We need to bring a legitimate head coach in there to help run this organization that knows what the hell he's doing. This is insane. I mean, that defense, if I told you in the beginning of the year, and I was playing tongue-in-cheek when I put my prediction, but in the beginning of the year, that defense plays with zero heart. Zero. I mean, it's embarrassing how poor that defense played. And I don't want to see Jackson Dart. Jackson Dart has nothing to prove.
28:36Jackson Dart's good to go. He's legit. He's the reason why he wants to come here. I don't want to see that kid on the field for the rest of the year. I mean, you just put them in harm's way. This is insane. And I like Dayball, too, but, man, we need a lockdown professional immediately. And if the Pittsburgh Steelers fans who have been whining and complaining since they hired this guy in 2007, if they want to fire him, we'll take him in a heartbeat. It's crazy.
29:06Rich Eisen:Well, I mean, I appreciate the two cents, Alan, and obviously won't want to hear from you as you've been one of our regulars since day one. Thanks for the call. I mean, that's a giant fan right there. Who would take Tomlin in a heartbeat? And I know, again, this is middle of the season, and it's stirring something up. And I know Tomlin doesn't want to hear any of this stuff. And I'm sure he's just sitting in his film room or his office or whatever going about his business to get ready for the Cincinnati Bengals next because they need to win that game, and they do. They're 6-4. They've split with the Bengals.
29:40Rich Eisen:and then they move merrily forward into the teeth of their November and December schedule. But I will just say this. Giants have an opening, and the Giants and the Steelers owners sit next to each other at every owner's meeting. Every owner's meeting. They are tight. There's a reason why one of the actresses from the Mara family's first name is Rooney, by the way. Yep. So that will only intensify if the Steelers start to fall apart or they just stumble into the playoffs or they get to the playoffs and don't win or they stumble and don't make the playoffs. That'll be the conversation to be had.
30:29Rich Eisen:What about Bill? Belichick for the Giants? Yeah. Let me ask you a question, Chris, and I'm saying this with the ultimate of respect, and I know I'm going to be getting and stepping in a direction. Let me ask you this. Would you want to hand a young quarterback off to him and say, oh, who are you going to get for him, Joe Judge? You're going to get Patricia to stop being the defensive coordinator for the first overall ranked Buckeyes, bring him in? I mean, I understand, like, that would be amazing. If as a GM and ownership group, you say, hey, Bill, this is going to be our OC. Why not have Bill for a couple years?
31:05I'm sure Bill's looking to get the ship back on track. The Giants have been awful this decade. They need someone to write this thing. Chance to come home, give Bill a chance to save face with the way his career's gone the last few years. And I know they love Bill. I mean, who doesn't in New Jersey? Who doesn't for Giants fans? And he is still the greatest of all time. Yeah. but he's gonna be a hall of famer the way that i know he will be it's in you'll have a hall of famer on the sideline but as a patriot fan would you counsel the giants to do that yes or no yes or no yes with a caveat that he does not get to choose who the oc is why would he on quarterback why would you ever put any sort of thing on bill belichick like this is the way we want you to do he wants to coach in the nfl again and get the all-time record you say bill this is how it's got to be interesting if tomlin says no i don't know why tomlin would say no if things fall apart there and he has to sit there and wonder you know what i could be the coach of the giants for a long time
32:09Rich Eisen:to come and and i have i am part of an or like and honestly you got to take stock you sit there and go i don't know again i shouldn't say this sort of thing because there's so much of a personal aspect of it i think he's now an empty nester he must love living in western pa all of that stuff there's a personal thing to this but just a football wise sort of thing we just had a a caller from arkansas steeler fan talk about why are we constantly you know in the geriatric mode of the quarterback spot jackson dart is a massive plus for this job massive massive scadaboo neighbors the high draft choice defense that can get after it get after it with young people getting after it there's a lot of reasons to take this Giants job over other ones that are going to be open yeah there's going to be at least what four or five others usually there's always in that six to eight number each year
33:15Rich Eisen:I want to take a moment here before we take a break um paul tagliabu passed away on sunday and this one hit me personally um because he was one of the first people i met after i was hired to host the nfl network as a matter of fact in our green room hung up in there is a letter i I received, when I lived on the Upper West Side of Manhattan, from Paul Tagliabue, a welcome aboard letter from him. I saved everything, the piece of paper and the envelope, because it kind of felt big when I was hired by NFL Network in 2003, after being handed a cardboard box by our current Rich Eisen Show benefactors up in Bristol, Connecticut, just about eight days before I got married.
34:12Rich Eisen:and so if you don't mind putting it back up there mike he hand wrote out um at the end most important for now and parentheses he wrote and the long-term exclamation point congratulations on your marriage to susie who he had never met by that point a personal touch from the commissioner of the National Football League. And obviously, the NFL Network is not born without Paul Tagliabue's stewardship. And I'll never forget, we're in our first year, I think, of NFL Network. There was an Irish bar down the street from our studio in Culver City. and after a show tagliaboo showed up he was by the way the first ever guest in the history of nfl network we interviewed him and showed him how he's in the top five or ten rebounders in history of georgetown basketball he was a tall tall man who played hoops for georgetown um before obviously he became what he became a lawyer and then the commissioner of the nfl for 17 years And I remember going with him, Joe Brown, who was the keeper of the flame at his right hand man, and also the COO of the time, his eventual successor, Roger Goodell.
35:37We all went with the crew after an NFL total access to the Irish bar and drank and the and the the bartender and the people there were so excited to have the commissioner of the NFL in there. They handed him a shillelagh. There's a photograph of Tagliabue holding a shillelagh and just, you know, just cutting loose is only, you know, one would think he could. Like, that's as far as I've ever seen him cut loose. And then just, again, his stewardship of the NFL network. So crucial. Part of the 17 years highlighted by very important items on his to-do list.
36:15Rich Eisen:expanding the league from 28 to 32 teams if you're a fan of the panthers the jaguars the texans or the cleveland browns he's the one that expanded to those spots including giving cleveland its franchise back let's not forget he was the one when 9-11 happened that he was the one who canceled the games that weekend and everybody was looking for his leadership to what what do we do what do we do a lot of other sports leagues are like what do we do the nfl canceled its games and then a bunch of others did follow suit if you're a fan of the saints you still have a team because this man refused to let katrina blow the saints off the nfl map from new orleans i'll never forget nfl network we were there that night when the superdome reopened on a monday night we all remember what happened in that game that was when steve gleason blocked a punt there's a statue in front of the stadium that still holds the saints because it told paul tagliabu from that night
37:25the moving of the super bowl man there was just so much that he helped with with us at nfl network and, you know, 17 years, no labor stoppages. This is after two strikes in 82 and 87. This handshake came at an owner's meeting that we were covering here. He was so welcoming to all of us at NFL Network. We worked at his largesse and beck and call. And I'll never forget, I asked him once, one of the first things I did prior to NFL Network launching is he brought a contingent of NFL folks to Lambeau Field for the opening of the 2003 season. NFL Network didn't come on the air until week 11 of the 03 season.
38:12And he was leading a contingent to Lambeau Field because they had just renovated. And Dante Culpepper spoiled the party. Never forget Joe Brown. I love you, Joe. He said to me, he goes, Rich, sitting next to Tagli, goes so um vikings beating the packers did that knock you out of your survivor pool and i'm like joe i don't i don't know what you mean because he was asking me if i was gambling in front of the nfl commissioner and taglibu laughed at that but i did ask taglibu on that flight home i asked him because he invited me to come with them which was very welcoming again um he didn't have to do that and um i asked him i said you know you came up through the ranks as a lawyer for for washington and you were a season ticket holder do you still have your season tickets and he said no because when he took the job from pete rosell rosell told him that you never you no longer have one team in mind you have all teams in mind and the only team you root for as commissioner is the team that's losing because you want close games and i'll never forget that is basically he's just like it's all about these games the competition and what's going on on the field obviously there's lots of the business acumen i'm sure i was not privy to and we do all know you know what was going on with concussions at the time and he even said at the end of his career he regretted a lot of the things that he was saying on that front while he was commissioner for 17 years and i'm sure there's some folks listening to me right now saying i should be mentioning that and you know he he talked about it himself but he was always about the shield he was always for us at NFL Network.
40:12My God, without him, there wouldn't be one. Up the road. And for that, I say thank you. I'm forever in his debt there. And to his wife, Chandler, his son Drew, his daughter Emily, his extended family, and of course his National Football League family, I say rest in peace. Paul Tagliabue passed away at the age of 84 on Sunday. The Rich Eisen Show, the podcast.
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42:28Rich Eisen:Let me talk to you a little bit about Sonos, the speakers that bring every game to life at my house and all the music that we listen to. Trust me, when one son likes Kendrick Lamar and another son likes Taylor Swift, you need to have separate rooms playing music. All right? I'd imagine. I'm just saying. Just to keep the peace. Well, you know, Taylor and Kendrick did a song together. That's great. That's great. I think maybe we'll find mutual respect And we'll play Sonos, that song, in one room. How about that? Because you can zone it up, basically. Every room is its own zone, whether you're listening to music or watching your big-time football or sports event on your television.
43:07Rich Eisen:If you want stadium-quality sound at home just like me, explore the sound bar, speakers, and more at Sonos.com. Sonos, they look as good as they sound. So, listen, blowouts galore, right? Yesterday. Yeah. Late games, for sure. I guess obviously there wasn't a blowout with Houston coming back from 19 down on Jacksonville. The Bears coming back from 10 down on the Giants. There's also a nice game, tight game between the Patriots and the Bucs that we talked about to lead this show. But in terms of intensity and in terms of excitement and in terms of whole country kind of sitting down to watch, How about the big noon game on Fox where Indiana put its undefeated record on the line trying to win for the first time in Happy Valley, which desperately needed to win with their interim head coach.
44:03Rich Eisen:And they come back from double digits down to take the lead. And guys, this catch by Omar Cooper Jr. of Fernando Mendoza's perfectly thrown ball. I mean, he was Mendoza was so on point in this final drive. It was amazing. Was so spectacular. But this catch in the back of the end zone, high pointing it and then getting his look. Did he get both feet down? I thought that as well. I'm like, dang, this was an NFL legit catch. But he wasn't. He got one. Got one. That's all he needed. People are saying he got two. Just let me give it. It looked like he let me give it up. Give it up to Penn State for giving Indiana game.
44:46Give it up to Indiana for coming back after blowing the lead.
44:50Rich Eisen:Give it up to the quarterback who was so dynamite. Gus Johnson, when he finally got his voice back, said, give him the Heisman now, which I'll be honest with you, even as a Wolverine, I'm just saying that's not done yet. OK, because Julian is pretty amazing. Yeah. And Jeremiah Smith, too. But this kid Mendoza was awesome. And that catch was amazing. and all I could think of was this. Let's just say, I'm not trying to speak this into existence. Let's just say Ohio State does beat Michigan for the first time since 2019. Okay? In the big house. Which is a distinct possibility, to be very honest. There's a chance.
45:37Rich Eisen:So Indiana and Ohio State being undefeated are going to play a meaningless game which the Big Ten Championship now is. So one of these undefeated teams will go into the playoffs off a loss and not undefeated. And I don't want to hear like, hey, it's for a bye week or it's for seeding or any of that stuff because the equivalent would be this. Last year, the Lions and the Vikings played each other for the top seed, the winning of the division, and going into the playoffs as a road team. And this would, in effect, be that. But last year, the Lions and Vikings had to play because it was on their schedule.
46:30Rich Eisen:This is just like, let's do it so we can rake in more cash in a system that has now made such games fully antiquated. and let's give a team that's sitting at home a leg up let's show them indiana and ohio state spilling their guts out before you may have to play one of them as a more defrayed team because they've played one more game and you didn't make your conference championship but you still make the playoffs you get to sit at home you get to not put a thing on the line you get to put nothing on tape, on film, at all. It's so stupid. And that's coming down the pike. That's possible. Why make Indiana, like, if Indiana plays Ohio State undefeated, now you've got a playoff in which to do it.
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Rich weighs in on the Los Angeles Chargers manhandling of Aaron Rodgers and the Pittsburgh Steelers and how the outcome could impact each team’s playoff hopes, and says what Lamar Jackson’s return has meant to the Baltimore Ravens (and the rest of the AFC North).
Rich debates an upset Steelers’ fan who wants to show Mike Tomlin the door, discusses if Tomlin or Bill Belichick would be a good fit as the New York Giants’ next head coach, and shares his fondest memories of former NFL Commissioner Paul Tagliabue who passed away at the age of 84 over the weekend.
Rich reacts to Indiana’s thrilling comeback win over Penn State to remain unbeaten, and says why the Big Ten Championship Game is 100% “so stupid” in the face of the new 12-team College Football Playoff format.
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