Hour 2:  ESPN’s Marcus Spears Talks NFC West, Bengals, Chargers, Eagles, Caleb, LSU & More

14:19Rich Eisen:So you're taking the Bengals because of their defense. Absolutely. Look at us. Look at this.

14:22Marcus Spears:We're just in week two, though.

14:23Rich Eisen:We got to, you know, things to sort out. I know that, but this is the National Football League. But I think the Bengals can score with either one of those guys. So right now you do take the defense. You're taking them. And then the team that got shocked yesterday that you're concerned about the most, the Chargers, you've got the Bucs now at 0-2, the Ravens.

14:40Marcus Spears:I'm more concerned about the Chargers than anybody. Why is that? Offensively, it looks so discombobulated. Outside of Ladd-McConkie, who are they going to count on right now? They got to figure that out. Johnson got to start playing better. Gadsden, the tight end, was playing well. He had some spurts. the guy that looked like a go-to guy in this game yesterday was Kohler, the tight end. So again, you got snap issues when you're trying to run motion across where it hits off a guy's hip. Is that the new offense? I think so. I think so. But with that, you lose to the Raiders. And more importantly, you look at the defensive side of the ball, blown coverages for touchdowns.

15:24Marcus Spears:The one in the middle of the field of Tucker, safety just bit on the underneath route. And then the touchdown at the end of Kobe, it was just a bad, blown coverage. Miscommunication. Kirk Cousins can throw the football. We all know that. Problem is, the Chargers should have known that if we shore up the secondary, we will be able to get pressure on Kirk and maybe put them in a bad way. The defensive line for the Chargers didn't play bad. They were pressuring him. They were getting around him. Secondary gave up huge plays. And then you got the Njoku drop that turns into an interception. So it's just everything that could go bad for the Chargers went bad, but they look super discombobulated on offense.

16:06Marcus Spears:That's the Hampton fumble at the end of the game.

16:08Rich Eisen:Well, this was the moment for me where I'm like, oh, God, the Chargers are really a hot mess, to be honest with you. Because with all due respect to the Raiders organization and what they have done and what they're pulling off, and what they look like in the future. A very Raiders moment where they call a timeout, and it's fourth and inches for the Chargers, and they're going to go for it. Out of a timeout, they have too many men on the field. And they get popped for five yards. Now that's old school Raiders foot shooting right there. And then the next play, I think it was N 'Kobe Dean. He popped the ball loose from Hampton, made a play, totally flipped.

16:54Rich Eisen:forget that old Raiders, Raiders are going to Raiders thing, to use the Monk phrase, which we'll get to with you in a second. And then they scored after that. And that's when I'm like the Chargers are just

17:07Marcus Spears:totally in a daze right now. I mean, you think about N 'Kobe Dean, who you acquire. He's a great player. He played great, man. Played out of his mind. But ultimately, you know, Kubiak comes in and it's like, we got to change the identity of this team. And you know, you love to see a signing turn into what it turned into when the Kobe Dean making that play. Raiders got a long way to go. We all know it. We all know that eventually Kirk Cousins won't be the quarterback for them long term. But I'm, you know, I'm going to give LV a lot of credit for being 2-0 and going and going play against the Chargers.

17:43Marcus Spears:To your point, that's a game that they usually cost themselves. And they came up and made plays when it was when it was a critical moment.

17:50Rich Eisen:Yeah, and the Chargers next month. You've seen that schedule, right? Their next step is a Lulu, and they're 0-2 going into the stretch where they're now heading to Buffalo next. And Buffalo's coming off a mini-buy, and they have been a wagon. And then after that, they visit Seattle, welcome in Denver, and visit Kansas City. Three to the next four.

18:11Marcus Spears:Rich, I'm not – I got to ask you this question. I'm not bereft. What does wagon mean?

18:19Rich Eisen:Wagon means that they're a large vehicle that is difficult to stop.

18:24Marcus Spears:I got you. Okay.

18:25Rich Eisen:I would imagine that's what it is. No? Yeah, I guess so. I mean, I would. So what phrase would you use for the train? Locomotive. Locomotive. Okay. But again, I get it. I get wagon. I get it. They're a mode of transportation. Mode of transportation. That's what I'm going to say. Yeah, a big physical mode. Different pews in the same church is what we're basically saying. All right. I've got Marcus Spears here for one more segment before we send him off to the rest of his Monday, which ends up with a Monday night countdown tonight prior to a big time football game between the Giants and the Rams, which we'll preview in a moment.

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21:55Marcus Spears:What do you love, Marcus? I love when people are who they are. You got some people that the camera come on, you know, the world loves them, and then they ask the camera. Wit is the guy, man.

22:07Rich Eisen:Wit is wit every single day of the week. A million percent agreed. Yep. While we're on the subject, Marcus Spears here on the Rich Eisen Show, our radio audience, has returned. We're on the subject of being authentic. The Todd Munkin soundbite. We already played an hour one. We're going to play it again an hour two. We have to. We simply have to because we all know what's at stake here. Absolutely. The Browns are going home next week. We all know what the fan base's opinions of Deshaun Watson when he's not winning is. or even if he is winning. Well, they really haven't tasted a win like the one that they saw on Sunday, and Watson was exactly what the Browns needed him to be.

22:48Rich Eisen:And then Monken stepped up to the podium with the Mike Tomlin talking about Juju Smith-Schuster's quote about the Browns as the Browns.

22:57Marcus Spears:Well, we needed it, right? There's only so much you can talk about things in life, right? Ultimately, we're judged by wins and losses as coaches. And we're judged how we play on the field.

23:08Rich Eisen:Works himself something.

23:09Marcus Spears:Not the name on the back. That's great. Player's name on the back is based on how they play on the field, not their history, not what they've done in the past.

23:18Rich Eisen:It's what you do every week. It's the same as us. At this point now, it's all about winning,

23:24Marcus Spears:and it's them about winning their matchups and the players on the field. That's what it's all about.

23:29Rich Eisen:At that point, it's you out there and it's us collectively together. and I thought our guys did a great job of hanging together. We had a couple scuffles Wednesday, which is good. That's awesome because guys didn't like it, right? They're a little pissed off, right? You ought to be a little pissed off. Played awful. That wasn't the standard. Browns are going to Browns. F*** that, okay?

23:55Marcus Spears:So the guys took that to heart.

23:58Rich Eisen:Thank you. It's a walk-off moment too. Thank you. How's that play in the locker room?

24:02Marcus Spears:it plays for real. That matters. Coach went out there and said what he needed to say. He respects us as men that's trying to compete. That got me fired up. I was actually locked in on top of my head. I've seen the sound. I didn't hear it because I've been knee-deep in studying games. But that's the first time I've heard it, like the buildup to it.

24:25Rich Eisen:Yeah, because we only saw a lot of people just clipped off the end. The end. That's impressive, dude. He worked himself up.

24:31Marcus Spears:Yeah, that's impressive. And coming off a win, you beat Tampa too. That's not, you know, I like that from Todd Munkin. I was leery of this, of hiring him in the beginning because of the Brown situation, not because Todd Munkin can't coach. If you know anything about football, everybody respects Todd Munkin and how he can coach. That message permeates beyond football, though. And I think it can resonate with those guys.

24:58Rich Eisen:I mean, it was a massive W. Certainly when he's just like, you know, hey, I'm seeing some good things on film. And, you know, most of the fans were like, really?

25:10Marcus Spears:Rich, people, look, man, football is one of the reasons why I feel football is the greatest game we have. It's because you never know what opportunity or what mishap is going to cost you from an opportunity to play for a championship. or get in the playoffs. And I know we're talking about the Browns right now, and that may not be in the cards for them in the future. Yes. You have to celebrate these wins, man. I think people just, they are so hard to get. I think people think like, oh, we're just going to roll it out there. I used to always say the margin between 1 and 15 and 15 is one that's not as big as most people think it is.

25:49Marcus Spears:It's a couple plays throughout a game, and in that second half, the plays that Cleveland was able to make, the plays Deshaun was able to make and pushing the ball down the field. By the way, these youngsters, Boston and Concepcion, they're going to be really good football players. It's going to matter whatever they do quarterback-wise going forward that they have those two in the clubhouse. But that's a huge win for the Cleveland Browns. The only issue I have with that win is I love Todd Bowles. This might be the biggest black eye on anything he's done in Tampa. up until this point. So there's always, because like this, this is not a game you can lose in Tampa, especially coming off of Baker signing the contract.

26:36Marcus Spears:The things that it's just, it's just one that they don't think you lose in Tampa, especially when you got guys and you bringing them to the party. It's not like you had any catastrophic injuries. It's not like people were missing. Like you, the defense gave up that much. Todd Bowles is a defensive guy. We ain't seen Deshaun Watson perform like that since 1965. And you get that, giving up with a defensive coach as head coach, that's a tough one for me with Todd. That's going to be a tough one to get over

27:11Rich Eisen:if you're making a decision about his future going forward. Marcus Spears here on the Rich Eisen Show. You just said how tough it is to win in the National Football League and you need to celebrate wins when you get them. So your message to the fan base of the 2-0 Philadelphia Eagles is what?

27:25Marcus Spears:Celebrate, but also be cautiously optimistic.

27:30Rich Eisen:Well, cautiously optimistic I don't think are two words that Philadelphia Eagle fans are thinking right now.

27:37Marcus Spears:So, Rich, here's the thing, right? Like, you go to Tennessee, you got to gut it out, you got to win a game late. Jalen got to make a game-winning drive, and he does, right? So hopefully it acquires some of the noise about your quarterback. but they got to make improvements like everybody else. Like, I don't – look, the offensive line in Philly is not the same as the one we used – we got accustomed to from three, four years ago. Obviously, you lose Landon Dickerson. That's a big loss for them. Last year they played a lot without their five guys, especially Lane. So it's a lot of things that you want to see improve in Philly.

28:16Marcus Spears:I just got a lot of confidence in the franchise, understanding how to win those type of games. And history gives you a little bit of leeway. And I think Philly will be fine. And it ain't like it's world beaters in the NFC East right now. We'll find out more about the Giants tonight. But I think this division is going to be highly competitive and Philly going to be right in the midst of it. And you got to get to the tournament, man. Like you got to get to the tournament. And once you get to the tournament, all bets off.

28:49Rich Eisen:What's your opinion of the NFC North now through two weeks? Caleb is week to week. Caleb's week to week. Carson Wentz is now basically, technically, Kyler Murray got the win in week one because that's the way things work in the scorebook of the NFL. But Carson Wentz is basically 2-0. The Packers had to pull one out of their orifice against the Jets. and the Lions we just saw, they could easily be 0-2. What's your opinion of that division?

29:21Marcus Spears:I'm so disappointed that Caleb has the missed time. Because I think the Bears were ripe in the tape, full advantage of that.

29:30Rich Eisen:They were down 6-3 in the rain, even with Caleb doing,

29:33Marcus Spears:before he got hurt. I get it, and I understand it. But I'm going to give more credence to what Caleb Williams is consistently. what I think. I said before the season, it was going to turn into superstardom for him. I thought we were going to talk about Kayla Williams as a top five guy after this season. I thought he was going to make that significant of a jump. Give B-Flow and that defense a tremendous amount of credit. I mean, because in those elements, you got to stop the run. And they did a phenomenal job at not letting that break the backs of what this team was, keeping that offense in it just enough to go out and make a few plays.

30:11Marcus Spears:I want to get more news on Caleb and see when he can come back. I always get leery of muscle issues like potential tears and all of that because we know his movement is a big part of what makes that offense devastating. But I still believe Chicago is the formidable team in that division with Caleb. Now, I'm not going to sleep on Minnesota. and the reason why I won't is because defensively they are going to perform like that like they did this week more consistently than giving up points and doing all of that. I don't know what you do when Kyler comes back. I'm sure they're going to put him back in the starting lineup.

30:52Marcus Spears:Hopefully he can get it going. But Justin Jefferson still play over there. And Aaron Jones and defensively they're going to continue to make plays. They're not bereft of weapons on offense either. So I think Minnesota and Chicago might square that thing out. So now, Micah coming back, how much is that going to change for Green Bay? It's still up in the air, but I had Chicago going into the season as the team to come out of that north.

31:16Rich Eisen:Yeah, I hear you.

31:17Marcus Spears:I chose the Lions, and then I – Well, defensively, man, and it hurts my heart because Kelvin Shepard is an LSU guy, the defensive coordinator. Well, what's the scoop? How can they tighten the bolts here? I mean, one, look, it's similar to Dallas for me. First week, the communication was awful. Again, week two, it was awful for Detroit as well. Giving up uncovered touchdowns. You got injuries back there. Like all of that stuff kind of rolls into it. There's reasons and there's excuses. I won't make excuses for a team giving up, not knowing assignments, not being in the right spots, and that's a lot of what's going on in Detroit defensively right now.

32:01Marcus Spears:it's just a it's a mess you know what's unfortunate about Detroit I'm gonna say it it looks like that window of excitement is shedding really really fast and it's not because offensively they can't get it done defensively they are far behind and injuries have a part to play in that but in this iteration of the NFL man you got to be able to get off the field and get your offense back to ball, and I just don't see it happening for them.

32:35Rich Eisen:I got three teams for you. One and one Pittsburgh, one and one Baltimore, 0-2 Houston, your biggest level of concern out of all three. Which one are you most concerned about? One and one Pittsburgh, one and one Baltimore, 0-2. Well, I'm not concerned about Pittsburgh.

32:48Marcus Spears:I didn't expect them to do much anyway. Houston is my concern because Houston can't run the football. C.J. Stroud has thrown almost 100 passes in two weeks. I think he had like 96. You can't live like that. Well, Montgomery had three touchdowns the week before. The week one. But again, Rich, like last year, Houston couldn't run the football. And we came into the offseason not knowing if they should pay their quarterback because of dismal performances in the playoffs. You look at every team that has success, they have success on the ground. every single team. I don't think C.J. Stroud is a bad quarterback.

33:31Marcus Spears:This is the first. Last year in the playoffs, when we were in New England for the countdown, I said they should bench C.J. Stroud at halftime. I said they should bench him, let the backup come in who's played some time, and hopefully you can get out of here with a win and kind of reprogram your starter, and hopefully he can come back next week and be better. This past game against Cincinnati, and I'm giving that defense a tremendous amount of credit. In the NFL, when you become one-dimensional, it's damn near impossible to win. And that's what they became first, second quarter. It's terrible, man.

34:09Marcus Spears:I'm concerned about Houston. That defense actually played a really good game in Houston. They got to Joe, sacked him, forced pressures, all of that type of stuff. And offensively, they couldn't move a muscle.

34:23Rich Eisen:All right, before I let you go, we'll talk Monday night. But before we do, we've got to talk Saturday night. Yeah. LSU and Ole Miss. How'd you take that one in? Where were you? Home? I was home. You watch it by yourself?

34:35Marcus Spears:What do you got? I felt like some music was about to start. No, I know.

34:39Rich Eisen:It's all right.

34:40Marcus Spears:You know what? I am actually still okay. the one caveat I have is Leavitt is going to have to play more quarterback than being a scrambler. He missed some throws in that game that concerned me.

34:57Rich Eisen:Well, the one at the end where, you know, the backup tight end is wide open and Herbstreit kind of nailed it saying he didn't reset his feet for an easy throw.

35:05Marcus Spears:But again, Rich, I think that's because his first mind is to take off. Right? Like you have to. You look at Trinidad Chambliss. Quarterback for Ole Miss. How good is he? He played quarterback like Lane Kiffin would prefer you to play quarterback. And, yeah, it's cool when you're playing Clemson. Clemson is bad, by the way. All right? And it's cool when you're playing Louisiana Tech and you're scrambling around and you're doing all of that. Brother, you get the SEC play, you're going to have to make SEC throws. From the pocket, you're going to have to put the ball on people. And I think right now he's so caught up in, let me go make this play, let me run around, be exciting.

35:47Marcus Spears:You got to make throws. Trinidad Chambliss made throws. It looked like it was about to be a blowout. LSU is uberly talented, though.

35:57Rich Eisen:I got to tell you, I thought you were coming back and winning that game. I even texted Chris. I'm just wondering by how many points is LSU winning this game?

36:06Marcus Spears:Yes, and I think if we could have played a little bit more quarterback as opposed to wanting to be a scrambler and run around and make a few more throws, it could have been that way.

36:18Rich Eisen:Are you happy with Lane? Because it looks better than the Brian Kelly.

36:21Marcus Spears:I love him. You're happy with him. I'm happy with him because he's embraced what LSU is. Which is what? Which is culture matters as much as winning games. Brian Kelly was like, nah, to hell with the culture. I'm not about to end. Come on, he showed up almost cooking gumbo

36:37Rich Eisen:in half court of a basketball game. Rich, you see, that's why I'm going to have a lot of fun.

36:42Marcus Spears:Me and you, we like them two kids at school that just sit back talking about people. You're talking about his family. Kelly was never a family. I am. Yeah, the family. I am. Yeah, that's when he lost it. That's when he lost it.

36:53Rich Eisen:He didn't even play a game before his first game.

36:55Marcus Spears:His first day there. That's when he lost it, man. And, you know, LSU is in my heart, and I love my school. Yes. So I'm always trying to, like, be a little bit even keel. But you know when it's a problem. and it was a problem. Lane has brought back what LSU is supposed to be.

37:13Rich Eisen:Which is what? Swagger?

37:14Marcus Spears:Which is Swagger, which is a big brand, understanding the excitement around the game. He walked out against Louisiana Tech with Lil Boosie and Lil Wayne. That's not even a big game. But it was a big festive LSU the way it's supposed to be game. Now we struggled in the first half so I was like don't bring Boosie and Wayne no more. But we finally took off at one.

37:38Rich Eisen:I think we got a Lane soundbite. Here, go ahead and hit it. It was just a lot, you know, coming in. And I'm sure that'll be criticized or whatever. But there's a lot of stuff. Like I said, six years here and a lot of things and a lot of life-changing experiences and a lot of really good people that helped me through some really hard times. I just thought I'd probably be more in, like, the competitive mode, you know, and just kind of embrace it. and it was just a little bit, I don't know, sometimes you can't predict your emotions. You know, I know that sometimes I don't act like it, but I'm a human too.

38:16Marcus Spears:Sometimes I don't act like it.

38:18Rich Eisen:Okay.

38:19Marcus Spears:He's 50, you know, sometimes you kind of start doing a little self-check. A little self-check? Evaluation. I thought Lane was solid in the game.

38:29Rich Eisen:Hey, that was an outstanding football game. Yeah, it was pretty good. That was so much fun to watch. and the atmosphere was off the charts. We got to get better quarterback play from the pocket. That's really what it boils down to. All right, before I let you go, what does Monday night, what does tonight look like to you? I'm excited for the Giants, to be honest with you.

38:47Marcus Spears:I want to see if they can replicate what they did against Dallas. Now, they're going to get a team that the last outing we saw got physically beat at the line of scrimmage, gave up a tremendous amount of plays, uncharacteristic offensively. I know Puka is out, so how would they compensate from that? But I don't think the Giants and the way they played was a fluke. I think physicality travels. I think the mentality travels. But more importantly, the way Jackson Dart played simple football was the most impressive thing to me against Dallas. Now, Dallas had their issues defensively, and maybe L.A.

39:24Marcus Spears:doesn't. But I got to believe that New York is going to come in here with a lot of confidence about the way their quarterback played and the way they were able to dominate the line of scrimmage. What do you expect out of 99 tonight? I expect 99 to be really good. It's going to take some time. Like, look, man, this is still the NFL. But I think AD is going to have his impactful plays that's going to give us signs that once he gets in rhythm and once he gets going, there's going to be a problem, especially when 95 gets back, Myles Garrett. But I expect him to make some plays. I think I got him with a sack tonight.

39:59Marcus Spears:I think fresh legs and his ability. You don't, for him, that's like swimming. Like, you drop back and pass. It ain't like he forgot how to swim, dude. Like, he's strong as an ox. He's still fast. Footwork's still crazy. He's going to make some plays that's going to remind people, like, ah, yes, I'm glad we got him back.

40:17Rich Eisen:It's going to be, again, there's a ton of transplanted New Yorkers here in Los Angeles. There's just in, you know, clearly I'm one of them. And so there's going to be a lot of Giants fans in that building tonight. but Rams fans are going to show up. And if Donald makes one play, sort of like another 99 in Houston when J.J. Watt made plays, when Marshawn Lynch made plays in Seattle, it's like the Matrix. You're connected by a cable with the rest of humanity.

40:43Marcus Spears:But to your point, Rich, what I don't want people to miss with AD coming back is that when you get into that huddle, it's like Aaron Donald on our team now. Yeah. Like that changes the other 10, right? And we're not even talking about Miles being back yet. That's the excitement level. So I think more than his play, which he'll be fine, he'll get going at some point. It's just the guys around him are like, man, Aaron Donald really in this huddle right now. And that's going to – Turner, that's going to affect him. Fisk, that's going to affect him. That's going to affect guys around him to play better.

41:23Marcus Spears:It's kind of like what Dexter Lawrence is doing in Cincinnati. I feel like there are certain guys that not only calm you, but bring something out of you. And I think the reverence that these guys are going to have for Aaron Donald being back in the lineup, seeing him come back, especially if he make a play or two early, it's going to give everybody else on that defense a lot of juice. And you may see a different Rams defense than you saw week one.

41:50Rich Eisen:Monday night countdown later on this afternoon, Pacific Coast time. And then tonight, obviously, Monday night football. While Marcus, this is so much fun. This was amazing. I look forward to next Monday when we're just zooming and then back here in week five. But in the meantime, enjoy the double fisted green room, man. Get in there with both hands.

42:08Marcus Spears:What was the ice cream again?

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42:20Marcus Spears:Okay. Oh, man. Yeah, I've been off. I know we might not have time, but we'll talk about that. We'll do about that next time.

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43:50Rich Eisen:With hiring pro, you can hire with confidence and build the team you need. So join the 2.7 million small businesses using LinkedIn to hire. Get started by posting your job for free at linkedin.com slash eyes and terms and conditions. Apply. All right, everybody. Daniel in Irvine, California wants to chime in. What's up, Daniel? Hey, Rich. How's it going? What's going on? You got me, Rich? I do. Where are you? I'm in Irvine. I called last week about my Chargers. Season C holder. Had to sit through that again. I know you touched on it a bit with Marcus Spears there. When I got home, I don't know if you guys saw that clip.

44:37Rich Eisen:I got home and I saw a clip of Mike McDaniel on the bench talking to Herbert. And Herbert was staring off into space, never looked over at him. Everyone just looks out of sorts. I saw the great Chris Rim had an ex post where in the locker room he asked Khalil Mack, hey, what was Coach Harbaugh's message after the game? And Mack was like, to be honest, I kind of was not listening because I was just thinking about the game. So it just seems like all the veterans are in a shock. And I just feel like I need a hug because I don't know what else to do. Well, a couple things. Here comes the hug, the Rich Eisen Show bro hug, which is I reach around and give you a crap and then we separate, you know?

45:25Rich Eisen:So that's the bro hug. Why did we separate so quick? No, I don't know. Just listen, Daniel and I have just met. We've had the last couple weeks. Last time I spoke with him, I had an appendix. Now I don't. Oh, you're a different person. So, yeah, I've changed. But listen, man, how about this, Daniel? A totally new offense has been installed. and they didn't really play very much in the preseason. And I know the quality of opponents that came in are based on last year, something that would cause a ton of trouble for you because you should at least come out of two home dates against them, one and one rather than 0 and 2.

46:07Rich Eisen:But maybe, just maybe, going on the road here to Western New York to take on a wagon of a Bills team is exactly what you need. go on the road go on a plane flight let's bond let's get in the hotel let's do some bonding stuff let's change up the routine because the current routine stinks on ice man and it's a bad feeling and obviously uh josh allen is the last person you want to face when you're feeling um you know uh subpar in the confidence department it can shake you even more that's that's what i got for you because the rest of it is just terrible you gotta you gotta flush and pull you gotta just flush it and pull yourselves out of the depth and get on that stage with a with a let sequin glove and get get get get things going um daniel that's that's all i'm gonna say and thanks for the call greatly appreciate it hopefully you call back next week and say this attaboy worked.

47:08You know?

47:09Rich Eisen:Because the way it's gone so far is a hardcore 0-2 disappointment. Thanks for listening to the Rich Eisen Show podcast. You can watch and listen to the Rich Eisen Show live weekdays from noon to 3 Eastern on ESPN Radio, Disney Plus, and on the ESPN app. The Rich Eisen Show.

47:29Marcus Spears:The podcast.

47:37Marcus Spears:This Friday, return to theaters for Avengers Endgame Encore. I know I said no more surprises, but I was really hoping to pull off one last one.

47:47Rich Eisen:Reassemble the team. Six stones. Three teams. One shot. Relive the experience. You mess with time. Time tends to mess back. The story continues. Tony, this is a second chance. Don't miss Marvel Studios' Avengers Endgame Encore. Early theaters Friday. Get tickets now. Rating PG-13. Maybe inappropriate for children under 13.