In short
Seth Rollins fills in for Rich Eisen, recapping WWE SummerSlam week (Aug 1–2 in Minneapolis) and delivering his “Top 5 WWE SummerSlam moments,” then doing a “NFL Sleeper Teams draft” (Round 2) with callers and sports talk.
Guests
Stacey Dales (NFL Network reporter) appears as the listed guest; Seth Rollins is the guest host. Regular on-air cohosts include Chris Brockman and TJ Jefferson (plus Del Tufo). Caller: Jimmy from San Antonio.
Key claims
- Rollins says he’s returning to chase a World Heavyweight Championship “he never lost,” now on Roman Reigns’ shoulder.
- He argues the Roman Reigns acknowledgment storyline has gone on too long.
- He claims Oba Femi has the most “No Contest” appearances on their podcast.
- Rollins’ #1 SummerSlam moment is Punk’s 2025 cash-in after Rollins was injured, winning the World Heavyweight Championship.
Notable examples (SummerSlam moments)
- 2020: Rollins vs Dominic Mysterio (pandemic-era).
- 2023: Rollins beats Finn Bálor to retain.
- 2019: Rollins beats Brock Lesnar (Toronto main event).
- 2015: Rollins beats John Cena in winner-take-all, with Jon Stewart interference.
- 2025: Punk cash-in with the black-and-gold briefcase to win.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOSeth Rollins on Acknowledging Roman Reigns
1:12 to 5:30
Seth Rollins shares his thoughts on Roman Reigns and WWE acknowledgment.
“Live from the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles.”
Previewing SummerSlam Events
5:30 to 8:10
Discussion on upcoming SummerSlam matches and events.
“And the reason I bring all this up is because WWE has a very large event coming up in a week in Minneapolis, U.S.”
Seth’s Top Five SummerSlam Moments
8:10 to 10:46
Seth Rollins recounts his top five SummerSlam moments.
“You know, Sky is challenging Liv Morgan for the women's WWE championship.”
Detailed Breakdown of Seth's Moments
10:46 to 14:02
In-depth discussion of each of Seth's top SummerSlam moments.
“And because of this, we are going to get to my top five SummerSlam moments of all time brought to you by our friends at Hyundai.”
Seth Rollins' Top 5 SummerSlam Moments
14:02 to 17:26
Hear Seth Rollins recount his top five moments from SummerSlam, including pivotal matches and unforgettable experiences.
“We're going in to see who is going to leave Brooklyn with both titles.”
Seth Rollins' Top 5 SummerSlam Moments
17:28 to 17:41
Hear Seth Rollins recount his top five moments from SummerSlam, including pivotal matches and unforgettable experiences.
“Get in to the Hyundai getaway sales event and get away with a deal so right it almost feels wrong.”
Reflection on Professional Wrestling
18:19 to 22:50
Seth Rollins shares insights about his journey in wrestling, memorable experiences, and the evolution of his character.
“And I think, like, because it's been over 10 years, it's kind of like one of those things that drifts away in the memory bank.”
NFL Sleeper Teams Draft: Round 2
23:27 to 28:00
The hosts discuss the NFL season, draft predictions, and engage with listeners about team performances and expectations.
“And I got a shout out to TJ, Chris Brockman Tiana.”
NFL Team Predictions and Ambitions
28:00 to 33:51
The hosts discuss predictions for the Dallas Cowboys' season and their potential standing in the division.
“You have to go to SoFi and play the Rams.”
NFL Sleeper Teams Draft: Round 2
33:51 to 40:52
The hosts draft their sleeper teams for the upcoming NFL season, evaluating prospects and team dynamics.
“Brockman goes Tennessee, which caused a big shift.”
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Finding the Hot Take Plank
42:26 to 44:31
The hosts discuss the search for the board used for breaking hot takes.
“eisen i'm not sure what's the difference between a backslash and a slash well one's a back and Which one's forward and which one's back, though?”
Debating the Board Break
44:31 to 46:38
The team debates how to break the board and the implications of doing so.
“Well, because we sort of made it a person.”
Final Thoughts on the Challenge
46:38 to 46:55
The hosts conclude their discussion about the board and the upcoming wrestling event.
“All right, we've got everybody on board.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00You know when you're locked in, focused and fearless. Welcome to the WNBA. Your vision narrows. You can't look away. Every assist, every stop, every logo three. From beyond the logo. Every did you see that moment. You bet. What records are going to be broken this season? All of it right here. Lock in. It's the WNBA on ESPN. All season long. This is The Rich Eisen Show. Hey, everybody. Can't get enough of The Rich Eisen Show? You're in luck. You can find us everywhere. Watch us weekdays on Disney Plus from noon to 3 Eastern. Miss the show? We've got a podcast so you can listen anytime. But here's the best part.
0:49Our YouTube channel. Subscribe at youtube.com slash richeisenshow and you'll never miss a moment. Now, on with the show. and you'd be kicked out of our team meeting. This is the Rich Eisen Show. You're lucky I'm not going to throw this freaking podium. With guest host, WWE superstar Seth Rollins. Live from the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles. Today's guests, NFL Network reporter Stacey Dales. Seth's top five, plus latest news and more. And now, sitting in for Rich, it's Seth Rollins. Ladies and gentlemen, I am a visionary. I am a revolutionary. And I've got the prime shades on. So I'm in full Seth freaking Rollins mode.
1:46And I am feeling some type of way with these shades on, man. I feel like I want to cut a promo. I want to just fire up. I want to lose my mind. But I got to figure out, what do I want to cut a promo on? Who do I want to cut a promo on? What am I upset about? I could think of something. Yeah, I know. Me too. There's a guy sitting in the corner. You should be mad at me. If any of you out there have a thought about what I cut a promo. The boys have joined me with their glasses on. They were a lot. Everybody's got the shades on. Nice. Nice. This is good. This is good. This is good. If you've got your shades on at home, call us.
2:20Let us know. 844-204-RIT. We are taking callers. If you've got any questions about life, about football, about SummerSlam, Win-loss game? Yeah, win-loss games. Anything you want. Let's hear it. Anything you want. We are on Disney +, ESPN app, ESPN radio series, XM channel 80. Please give us a follow, Rich Eisen Show, on X and Instagram. I'm not on X. I'm off.
2:49Brockman:You're a Threads guy, right? I'm a Threads guy. I've moved to Threads, yeah. I've Threaded now. I'm still on the Gram, though. WWE Rollins, if you want some of that. subscribe to the channel youtube channel youtube.com slash uh rich eisen show um all right i'll take the shades off and let's get down to some serious business here because yesterday on the show uh brockman you stirred the pot a little bit you stirred up some controversy you had a power less power less rankings yeah i had the top 10 you know summer stories that i'm already yeah Just kind of over, sick up, don't want to hear anymore.
3:27There was one specific one that caught my eye. Oh. Yeah. And I've got a bit of a bone to pick. So let's get to it. Let's hear it. And then let's talk about it. We're a Seth Rollins show around here. Enough of acknowledging Roman Reigns. Here's the deal. It's been how many years and this guy's still looking for acknowledgement? Like, are you an only child begging for acceptance and love? Like, what is going on with this? What are we doing? Enough with that. This is Seth Rollins neighborhood over here. Enough acknowledging Roman Reigns. I'm over it. Yeah. That's my guy. There we go, Brockman. He gets you, guys.
4:10Come on. This guy gets it. He understands, all right? On the other hand, over here, we had TJ Jefferson, and O'Shea was sitting in this chair. O'Shea Jackson Jr. sitting in this chair, and he scoffed. He scoffed that you were upset with Roman Reigns. He's a Roman guy. Oh, is he now? I mean, you know that. I just saw O'Shea not that long ago. I heard. He looked at me, smiled, gave me a big old hug. He was so, he's in backstage at one of our shows this past weekend. He was right there for the main event. It was a terrible night for me, but at the end of the day, he was there and he was all glad-handing me.
4:51Of course. We were best friends, you know? And then he comes out here and he does something like that. And I got to ask myself, what are we doing here, guys? What are we doing here? You're right, Brockman. How much acknowledgement does this guy need? How much do we need to just put a finger in the air and acknowledge Roman Reigns? How long is this going to go on? What is this? What kind of validation are you seeking, sir? How much do you really need? Come on, get over it. We get it. Tribal chief, head to the table. Yada, yada, yada. You got the teeth. You know, it's all there. We get it. We've acknowledged you.
5:28Plenty. Time to move on. Let's move on. That's what I'm saying. And the reason I bring all this up is because WWE has a very large event coming up in a week in Minneapolis, U.S. Bank Stadium. There it is. Let's go. SummerSlam, two nights, August 1st, August 2nd. It's on the ESPN app with the ESPN Unlimited plan. Netflix, if you are overseas. and you're looking at the graphic right there the generational battle reigns versus rollins world heavyweight championship on the line this is uh man this is a big one for me guys this is a big one for me i mean you know i had to relinquish my world heavyweight championship back in october when i uh hurt my shoulder um and now i'm coming back this is my first crack back at getting that title that I never lost.
6:21And the fact that it's sitting on Roman's shoulder, who's a guy that I've got a ton of history with. It's going to be a special night main event of SummerSlam, two-night SummerSlam. It's an electric SummerSlam. I mean, there's a lot going on in the SummerSlam. The other title match is, what did you call it? Charles Montgomery? Yeah. Punk, is that how you refer to him? Chick Magnet.
6:43Brockman:Chicago-made cookie monster. Chick Magnet Punk. Craig Montgomery, if you watch As the World Turns. Yeah, so CM Punk is defending the WWE Championship against the American Nightmare Cody Rhodes. That should be a barn burner. You've got a Hell in a Cell match. Brock Lesnar versus the ruler Oba Femi. Oba. Oba. You know, Oba's got the record for most appearances on No Contest Wrestling. Is that true? Yeah. That is an actual truth. Yeah, he's on our pod more than anyone else at this point. That is shocking. Why is that shocking? Well, because Oba doesn't actually do a ton of media. Well, you know. He doesn't do a ton of media.
7:25Brockman:You know, I don't want to toot my own horn, but I also heard a quote. I can't believe you got John Cena the rat with you. You know he tells everyone no. Tell me no. So, I mean, I'm just saying. Is there a ring and cell big enough for those two giants? Oh, yeah. We're going to find out. It's going to hold those guys? My Lord. I think there's Brock Lesnar's undefeated as well. I believe he is, yeah. Also, we've got an interim Women's World Championship ladder match happening. We only know that Tiffany Stratton and Jade Cargo are involved. There's still three spots open. Five women are going to be in that thing.
7:55It wouldn't surprise me if a man joined the women in that match. Well, you know, it seems like they're SmackDown superstars. My wife is a Raw superstar. Yeah, but you know that doesn't matter. It doesn't always matter. We'll see what happens. I don't know about that. on the Raw side. You know, Sky is challenging Liv Morgan for the women's WWE championship.
8:15Brockman:I love Liv. They've both been on the pod. You know who hasn't been on the pod yet? Who's that? That's you. We got to get you on. Call my people. Set it up. I call you directly. Well, then send me a text. I just figured you didn't like us because O'Shea didn't, you know, I would love to get into it with O'Shea. So I just assume that, you know, you didn't want to come on because you didn't like us. Come on now. Come on. I like at least half of his. And could I point something out real quick? You know, Brockman says he's over acknowledging Roman, and you're like, we're acknowledging this. Am I wrong for pointing out that you kind of caused all this?
8:54Brockman:How did I cause this? What have I caused? Well, a certain still chair shot to the back changed everything, and that led us on the path that we're on right now. So look, man, I ain't got the dog in the fight. don't like you both but i'm just saying like i have a uh so i did it i i'll tell you this you're right you're right i created the trajectory that we're all on right now i did that way back in 2014 when i broke up the shield by putting a chair in roman's back and like last time you're here we correlated it to the celdics breaking up brown and tatum there you go so but what i what i wanted to get at was I have recorded a sit-down interview with a broadcaster at WWE, Jackie Redman.
9:42I filmed it this past week on Raw. It'll air on the SummerSlam pre-show, which will be on ESPN, ESPN2, something like that. It'll also probably be on YouTube during the week after we have Monday Night Raw this coming Monday at Into a Dome, which is our last episode before SummerSlam. It'll probably be on YouTube at some point. All the information you ever wanted about that chair shot and what it meant and the sort of butterfly effect that it has had over the past decade will be available in that interview really great interview it i think it's worth your time if you're interested in the history and what this match really means to me to roman and to this industry i think um it's worth your listen worth your watch so absolutely that's that's a little teaser like that but since we're on the topic of summer slam i have had a pretty good history at summer slam true that i would call myself Mr.
10:35SummerSlam as a matter of fact. I would argue that anybody of any generation has had a better SummerSlam than me. Like better moments stacked up over time. And because of this, we are going to get to my top five SummerSlam moments of all time brought to you by our friends at Hyundai. High five. One, two, three, four, five. Seth Rollins. Top five. I love that. That's so good. All right. We're going to start at number five. Semi-recent, six years ago, 2020, during the pandemic era, I am wrestling Dominic Mysterio. The younger Mysterio, now known as Dirty Dom, is finally coming to his own. At this time, he was just Rey Mysterio's stupid little son.
11:26Look at him there in the Rey Mysterio gear with all of the images in the background because we didn't have any fans there. It was really a special time. But for me, it was really special because Rey is someone that I've looked up to my entire career. He's someone who I've always loved since I used to watch him in WCW as Cruiserweight Champion to his WWE debut at SummerSlam against Kurt Angle, one of the greatest debuts of all time. And it was an honor for me to bring Dominic Mysterio into the fold at SummerSlam, his first match on a huge pay-per-view. And I'm wearing there, You can see the Rey Mysterio gear that he wore.
12:02Made very famous at a hauling havoc against Eddie Guerrero. RIP way back in the day. So that's number five. Number four. This is kind of a two-parter, but we're going to go with the more recent version. 2023, I get redemption when I beat Finn Balor to retain the World Heavyweight Championship. Now, the reason I say I get redemption is because way back, 2016, SummerSlam, Finn Balor and myself for the inaugural Universal Championship, the old big red title that we had. And I lost that match. And Finn and I, you know, it's a long story history. His shoulder, he had a shoulder injury from a powerbomb that I gave him into a guardrail during that match.
12:45And we never really felt like we got to have the match that we wanted. This was sort of a redemption for both of us. Very happy that I got the win. Look at that frog splash. Look at that. Look at that extension. That is beautiful. That is a great shot. Whoever took that deserves a raise. So 2023, great match. Great opponent. Finn Balor, one of the very best to do it. Number three, 2019. It starts to get really tough now. This is a big one for me. Seth Rollins versus Brock Lesnar. The main event of SummerSlam. We're in Toronto for the Universal Championship. And I had beat Brock Lesnar earlier in the year at WrestleMania for the title.
13:25He had won Money in the Bank. He cashed in on me. So he was going in as the champion. I was going into SummerSlam to try to get the title back. And I was able to do a lot of run-ins with Brock Lesnar over the years. He is one of, if not the craziest athletes I've ever been in the ring with in my entire life. And, you know, sometimes those matches aren't what you want them to be. the SummerSlam match against Brock Lesnar was a quintessential David versus Goliath underdog story. And I was so proud of the way that one turned out to be able to be in there with Brock and have what I felt was a classic SummerSlam match.
14:02And I got the win. Got my title back. Very nice. Very nice. Now, number two. Ooh, baby. This was a tough one. Taking it back. 2015. Seth Rollins versus John Cena. Winner take all. I'm the WWE champion. John is the UNS champion. We're going in to see who is going to leave Brooklyn with both titles. And with a little help from my friend, John Stewart, I was able to defeat John Cena in the main event and take on both titles in the infamous White Ranger gear there. It still lives. Right now, that gear is on display in the Minneapolis airport. No way, man, really? That's right. If you're on your way to Minneapolis right now, you can get a glimpse of that actual gear in all of its glory.
14:53There I am. Two titles, double champ. It didn't last too long. I had them for maybe a month or two, but it was a very special night. Obviously working with the greatest of all time, John Cena, SummerSlam, main event. Really special. I was there. I'm quite jacked there, I will say. You were. I'm in great shape.
15:11Brockman:I was in the house for this one. You were in there. Was it everything that you thought? Oh, I was losing my mind. I got a video of me, like, you know, going nuts when you got the three count there. It's a good time. Good time. And finally, the number one moment in my SummerSlam history. There's a lot to choose from. I thought about going way back to my first lumberjack match at SummerSlam. I looked around. But really, guys, is there anything better than the ruse? Yeah. Is there anything better? I mean, the show played a major part in that. Obviously, shake it back to 2025. It wasn't even a match that I was in.
15:52I was on the shelf with a severe knee injury that we couldn't quite diagnose. But when the time came, I was able to shed the crutches, run down, hit Charles Montgomery Punk in the face with that beautiful black and gold briefcase, stomp his head straight into the mat and take the World Heavyweight Championship for my own followed the greatest cash-in of all time at Wrestlemania was the second greatest cash-in of all time at SummerSlam so I am 1-2 in the books for great cash-ins and that was probably, arguably my greatest SummerSlam moment of all time and thank you thank you to you for being such a big part of it how does it feel one year later um gosh there's a lot's going on since then how does it feel one year later well the crazy part is i'm fighting for the title that i cashed in on him that night right a title that i never lost he is he being cn punk is now walking into summer slam with the other heavyweight championship so uh it's it's very interesting um you know and i'm on the other side of the coin now where i'm i'm kind of people like me again you know i'm not such a villain anymore.
17:08Although, I don't know, when it comes to Roman Reigns, I do feel like I'm the bad guy. I feel like I'm the bad guy.
17:15Brockman:For you, you're going to get probably, you both are going to get cheered, but you're probably going to get a little bit more booze. And you're wearing all black too. That's, you know, notoriously a bad guy color. I mean, that was my top five. It was brought to you by Hyundai. Get in to the Hyundai getaway sales event and get away with a deal so right it almost feels wrong. Visit Hyundai USA. dot com for details. What did you guys think of that list? Did we do good? Did we do alright? That was a great list. Proper top five? I was at that SummerSlam in 2015. The whole Jon Stewart thing was kind of weird.
17:48Brockman:It was weird. But it involved another steel chair. Jon Stewart gets in the ring guys and there's Cena, there's Seth and what's Jon Stewart going to do? And guts Jon Cena with the chair, runs out, Seth blasts him and then goes nuts. And like I said, I have the whole thing on my phone. I've recorded like the last minute of it. But, you know, that's a wild time in my life. I got to go, like, hang out on The Daily Show with Jon Stewart. Like, we did it a couple times, I think. You know, I built, like, a rapport with Jon Stewart on The Daily Show. And I think, like, because it's been over 10 years, it's kind of like one of those things that drifts away in the memory bank.
18:27And we start talking about it, and I go, man, I have gotten to do so many amazing things being a professional wrestler in WWE that I have forgotten about being on The Daily Show with Jon Stewart. Like how... And then he interfered in your match. He helped me become a double champion at one of the big four pay-per-views in WWE. Like that's crazy, man. That's craziness. I can't even believe it sometimes. You gotta pinch yourself, you know? You gotta be... You just gotta be fortunate. Cool. The things you get in life, you just never know.
19:02Brockman:But now look at it. Now you're doing yourself what Jon Stewart does too. So that in itself is also kind of amazing, right? I mean, I'm sitting here in the Rich Eisen chair, hosting the Rich Eisen show with you fine folks. And it's the coolest thing. I get to talk about life and sports and football. I mean, what kind of, look, I grew up in a tiny town, guys, of Buffalo, Iowa. I'm a Midwestern kid. The town had like 900 people in it. You know what I mean? Like, what am I doing? It's amazing. Life is so cool. Buffalo, Iowa. Are you looking it up? In the 2020 census, 1 ,176 people. That's right. I was not exaggerating.
19:43Wow. That's incredible. You can imagine in 1990 how many people they had there.
19:47Brockman:That's in 2020. Also, the first thing I told Seth this morning, he did two hours on Good Morning Football. Now he's doing three hours. To do five hours of live television without him, not a lot of people get to do that. Like I told you, Macho Man Randy Savage never got to do that. Bret Hart never did it. Shawn Michaels never did it. Stone Cold never did it. The Rock never did it. Seth Rollins, you're getting to do it. I'm getting to do it. I have the privilege of sitting in the Rich Eisen chair. And I'm telling you guys, it's not lost on me. So again, thank you guys for having me. We love you.
20:19That was a great top five. It was nice to go down memory lane. We got more on the Rich Eisen show with Seth freaking Rollins coming up next.
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22:44Terms and conditions apply. The Rich Eisen Show Podcast. We are back here on the Rich Eisen Show. I am Seth Freakin' Rollins filling in for Rich today. Got the boys, Brockman. Yeah, yeah. Del Tufo. Great last name.
23:04Brockman:Thank you. And Jefferson, also great, but Del Tufo. When you got two, it's great. It's great. We are here. Give us a call, 844-204-RICH, Disney Plus ESPN app. We are on the ESPN radio, Sirius Channel 80. Throwing it down. Let's get to some callers, shall we? Let's get to one. We got one on the list. We got Jimmy. Jimmy from San Antonio. You in?
23:38There he is. Jimmy in San Antonio. All right, Mr. Rollins. Yes, sir. A.K. The Big Faker. I'll get to you in a second. And I got a shout out to TJ, Chris Brockman Tiana. I know you hyphenated. Happy birthday, guys. Thank you, Jimmy.
23:54Brockman:Appreciate it, man. Appreciate you, bro. Jimmy, thanks. No Tufo. Are you okay? That's four days in a row. Is the boat okay? What's going on? Boat's fine. You got to pay for that boat, Jimmy. That's why, exactly. Gas is expensive. I was worried. No, I'm good, Jimmy. Thanks, brother. Mr. Rollins, it's a pleasure to visit with you for a second time. Everyone knows I prefer Susie, but it's not personal. Respect. And is that outfit from the Shallon Monk Fall Collection? It's very impressive, by the way. Well, thank you very much. This outfit is from the King Troy Collection. People should tune in on all the apps that he previously mentioned to see the wardrobe.
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24:34It's astounding. Sharp-dressed man. I try. I try. I try. I got to keep up. I got to keep up. What do we got, brother? Yeah. You want to talk Cowboys? I'm ready to do the win loss. I do not know what TJ did with his win loss. We'll tell you after. We'll tell you after. So I want to see if we're close. No, don't tell me.
24:55Brockman:You don't want to know, period. You don't want to know at all. Like not even after you do it. I want to see if TJ and I came close because we love the Cowboys equally. That's what I'm saying. We'll tell you after you make your pick. After. We'll make a comparison. I'll put your damn act together. Oh, and by the way, all the new listeners and viewers, when you do the win-loss, you can't be no geek off the street. You've got to be handy with the steal if you know what I mean. It's win-loss. Got to earn your keep, bro. Yeah. Yeah, don't be telling people what the weather was when you were 12 years old with grandpa.
25:27All right? Let's just go win-loss. All right. Well, in that spirit. All right, Jimmy, let's go. Yeah, let's put the schedule up there. All right, here we go. Cowboys 2026 schedule win-loss with Jimmy from San Antonio. At the Giants, week one. Win. All right. At home against Washington. Win. All right. At home against Baltimore. But that one's in Brazil. Yeah. Oh, no. Dak has the hip shake. That's a win. Oh, yeah. Of course. Of course, the hip shake. I like your style. Three and all. All right. Sunday, October 4th, week four at Houston. Tough defense. Oh, that's – damn it. That's going to be one of the losses.
26:11Damn it. Now undefeated season gone. All right. Short week, primetime at home against the Buccaneers. Win. All right. Four and one. Another primetime game Sunday at Green Bay, week six. Win. I think we're going to do – yeah, win, win, win. Wow. They got three primetime games in a row because the next one is Monday Night Football at Philly in the link. Mini-buy. Loss. Okay. Fair enough. Fair enough. We go back to Sundays, November 1st. They have a buy after that. No, sorry. They don't have a buy after that. Arizona coming to Dallas. Oh, win. Oof. That's fair. Then you go week nine at Indy. Damn it.
26:59Week nine at Indy. Oh, it's indoors. Okay, win. Oof. All right, all right. We're stacking up the wins over here on the first side of the column. All right, now it gets a little trickier. The schedule gets a little more difficult. So we'll see how it goes. Seven and two. Week 10, San Francisco comes to AT &T Stadium. Lost. All right, all right. They got our number. Then the revamped Titans make their way to town. Super team. Win. Okay. Then we have the Thanksgiving Day game, of course, in Dallas against the Eagles. What a Thanksgiving game. Who are we playing? The Eagles. The Phillies come to town.
27:40Brockman:We're 8-3 right now, according to you. You know what? Cat, you get no turkey. That's a win. I like it. Is that a sweet Philly? Then we have a primetime game, Monday Night Football, with the defending champs in Seattle. A win. Wow. Whoa, whoa. Wow. That was fast, Jimmy. That's 10-3 right there, baby. We got a late bye, Week 14. See how we feel about that. And then the odds-on favorites. You have to go to SoFi and play the Rams. Me and Del Tufo be there, Jimmy. We'll be there, Jimmy. You coming out? No, no, I'm not coming out for that because it's a loss. See, I like Jimmy. We're going to have Oxnard hangover because I know how Jerry parties in the preseason.
28:27An Oxnard. No, that's a loss. Nice. Nice. Okay. That's 10-4 right now. The AFC South champs, the Jacksonville Jaguars, come to town in week 16. Yeah, win. Oof. All right. All right. And we're going to win that with the backup quarterback. How do you like that? Why? Why is Dak Prescott not playing at this point? Do you think the division is wrapped up? Isn't there only one more game after that? No, there's two more. Two more after that. That's week 16. Oh, never mind. Dak's playing. Okay, that's a win. Take that back. We won. All right. Then we have the Giants coming to Dallas.
29:08Scatable. Taking the win there. That's a home game against the Giants. I could see that. And finish the season at the Washington Commanders in D.C. Okay, Dan Quinn, you're welcome. That's a loss. All right. So what did we finish at here, guys? 12-5. 12-5. I like that. 12-5. Does that win you the division, Jimmy? No. Why? I bet that's a tiebreaker stuff, isn't it? Maybe. It's up to you. I mean, yeah, you're the one making the calls here. Do you think Philly's going to finish better than that? I think, well, can't they both finish 12-5, or is that mathematically impossible? I mean, yeah, they could.
29:46Of course, yeah, they could. Okay, that's where I'm going. I'm going to push both Eagles and Cowboys around 12-5.
29:52Brockman:Come on, Jimmy, don't do that. Oh, man. You know I've had a smoothie bowl and been drinking.
30:00Brockman:Well, Jimmy, I predicted because I was feeling good this day, Jimmy. It was the day that LeBron James put us on his Instagram, and there was a lot of buzz around the show, and we were all feeling ourselves. So I decided to do it. I did the win-loss game, and I predicted 14-3. Oh, I don't want to be like a British soccer announcer, but that's ambitious. Yeah, well, delusional is the word that is most frequently used on YouTube every time. Man, I can't call you delusional. You're my brother. It's just ambitious, bro. You have got to be smoking something over there this morning. That's right. Well, you know.
30:35Brockman:That's what I believe. My ambition as a writer, Jimmy. That's what Pac said. So, yeah, we got to be ambitious. There we go. Seth looks like confused. Okay, well, I got to go. I'm going to let y 'all go. Hi, Jimmy. All right, Jimmy. Take it easy, man. Thanks for the pics. I'm quick. He's got to go back to his three fingers. Yeah. Yeah. Smoothie bowl and Bloody Mary's. I don't know what he's doing on there. Oh, that's tequila down there. What happens? You saw his card, right? Yeah, yeah. That's fair. That's fair. That's fair. 14 and three. I was feeling myself, Seth. What can I say? I was feeling good, you know, and I did it.
31:07Brockman:Because why not? Because here's the deal. No matter, I do this every year for the last six years. And if I say the Dallas Cowboys are going to go 14 and three, people lose their mind. I get that. if I say we're going to go 3-14, there are still going to be people saying I'm delusional and we're going to go 2-2 games. So no matter what I say, they're coming at me. So I might as well put it out there. 14-14. The internet's fine. Swing for the fences. They're full of haters. That's all they want to do is hate. It doesn't matter. You're going to get the flack no matter what. You're right. So why not just swing for the fences?
31:40Let's go. I do say cowboy chatter here just while we're on it. Like there is a lot of talk around Dallas this year, more so than in past years. It's always. No, it feels different this year. It really does. It feels different this year. I don't know exactly what it is, but it feels like, okay, they made some good, good, like smart plays on the defensive side of the ball to like firm that up. They didn't go out and do anything splashy on offense. You know, it felt like they made educated moves in the offseason to balance this team out when they already have what is, in my opinion, and I hate to say this, a Super Bowl caliber offense.
32:25They've got the personnel for it.
32:26Brockman:And as we say here all the time, the offense was great last year. That wasn't the issue. The issue was the defense. Correct. Putrid. They were terrible. Christian Parker coming in. Yep. Another guy who I didn't have a lot of knowledge of when the hire was made, but the more I've read, the more I've listened to people in the know. This guy seems like he's, I think he's 34. He's like a football savant. And somebody wrote something that really got me on his team. He was like, unlike a lot of these hires, he's not hiring his friends for positions because he doesn't have any. Like he's hiring people that he knows are right and best for each job.
33:00Brockman:And that kind of struck me like this dude seems to be business. No nonsense. and we've revamped our defense. I say this guy's name all the time like he's the savior, Cable Down, but that's because how he was presented to me for years in college. So, look, yeah, expectations are high. I know I said 14-3, Chris. Obviously, that is a show thing. Do I think we're going to win the Super Bowl? I don't know. Like, it's been 36 years. Who knows? But you know what? I think Cowboy fans should be feeling good right now with the additions that were made and, you know, the offense, we kept that together. So who knows, man?
33:38Yeah, you got pickings on a franchise deal, you know, and CeeDee's still there. Like, it's ripe for the taking for the Cowboys. This could be the time, you know. The division's going to be highly competitive with Philly and Washington. But let's talk about some sleepers. Let's get back into the sleeper draft. Let's get into round two. First round, I went Miami. All right. Brockman goes Tennessee, which caused a big shift. TJ over there had to pivot, as we like to say, and he ended up with nons. So let's snake it. Let's go back the other way. So let's start round two. TJ, who's your sleeper team?
34:19Brockman:All right, man, you know, we're just taking shots in the dark here because, you know, 53-man roster. Yeah, right, we don't know. But there's a team, I know they have, like a few other teams, they have some quarterback issues. And I won't say issues because that's like a bad thing, Chris. There's going to be competition for this quarterback spot. But what they do have is one Hall of Fame bound wide receiver. They have a really great tight end. They have another wide receiver, too, who's really talented. Just depends who the signal caller is. And I think we think it's going to be the guy who came from the desert.
34:54Brockman:Okay. Tyler Murray. So I'm going to say the Minnesota Vikings. Look, the NFC North is tough, brother. You know that. That's your division. That's, you know, you know all about that. But sometimes you just got to go with feel, right? And I feel like the Vikings offense with Jefferson is, this is a tough team, man. This is a good offense. And last year wasn't so much, but we're throwing darts here right now. We're throwing darts. I'm just going to say I feel like the Vikings, they got something to prove. And I think they're going to be a better team than most people are giving them. Well, speaking of 14-3, they were just two years removed of that 14-3 record.
35:32And the only change they really made was a quarterback position. So we'll see. Obviously, Sam Darnold, and they go to J.J., and you see what happens.
35:39Brockman:And who knows? It might not. Maybe J.J. gets this job. Obviously, the odds makers Chris are saying it's going to be Kyler, but who knows? But when you have that wide receiver core, that receiving core, when you count the tight end, I feel like you're never going to be out of a game. And you've got B-Flow on defense, and that is a dynamic defense, too. so we'll see. I like the Vikings. I hope they lose every single game they play, but yeah, I'll go. I'm with you on that. Brockman, let's make it over to you. Okay. Man. What do you got? I think I'm going to stay in the South. Okay. And I'm going here.
36:14New head coach. Yeah. Maybe the number one fantasy player heading into this season. Dynamic wide receiver, but again, like you, TJ, questions at the quarterback position. But sometimes you need a change of scenery, and I think Tua needed a change of scenery and going to Atlanta and hooking up with Kevin Stefanski, and you talk about a winnable division. I think, I mean, you got seven behind. You got Bijan Robinson back there and a good defense. A lot of high draft choices on that defense. I think Atlanta could be a surprise team this year. Granted, Tua stays healthy. Always a question mark. And, you know, I know Michael Penix is there, but it doesn't mean he's coming off another injury.
37:02And so if this is a change of scenery, grass is greener, new offense for Tua, new life, second act here for him with Bajon. And Kyle Pitts really came on last year, finally living up to the promise of his, you know, high draft selection. And, you know, he's still very young. I think Atlanta could be, you know, one of those red zone teams that we're seeing are like, Another big play in Atlanta. Another big play here. Another touchdown pass from Tua. And I think I'm going to go Falcons here as a sleeper team for this season. I like this. I like where we're at right now. Okay. All right. All right.
37:36All right. I like these. I like these. I'm not convinced on Atlanta. Although I will say Bajon Robinson really, I mean, that's an animal. Beast. I mean, he's good for like five wins by himself at least. You know what I mean? They can play him on defense too. Might up that to seven. I mean, he's just, he's so good and a cool dude too. Awesome dude as well. I am going to go a place I never thought I would go. Uh-oh. There's this pain in me to do this. I feel it deep inside my heart. Like, I'm almost not going to do it. But I'm going to do it because I'm going to go with Pittsburgh Steelers. I was thinking, ah.
38:15And Aaron Rodgers. That was almost my pick. It's pain. It's pain for me to say this. Rodgers. It's his last dance, and that's what I'm saying. It's his last dance. It's his last crack. He knows that, and now he's got Big Mike back. He's going to have an offensive system that he wants to run. They added a weapon on the outside to go with DK, but they have Michael Pittman Jr., if I'm not mistaken there. Michael Pittman, man. Upgraded to running back situation. He's not moving the ball down the field the way he used to when he was younger. He can still rocket it when he needs to, but he is such an incredible game manager and you've got some of it a little bit here and there and some of these games where he's out there seeing the defense and these quarterbacks just don't exist anymore where he sees the defense and he can diagnose immediately and change the play and now that he's got a little bit more control of that this season I think that's going to be a dangerous team plus they play it I know it's a tough division okay I'm not I'm not sleeping on Cincinnati and I'm not sleeping on Baltimore but Baltimore they're in flux.
39:23They have a great quarterback and some good weapons there but we don't know what Jesse Minter is going to be like. He's a coach. Moving on from a Super Bowl head coach and John Harbaugh and is Cincinnati going to do it? Are they going to have a defense and is Joe Burrow going to stay healthy? There's just a lot of questions in that division. Cleveland is a disaster. You've trade away defensive player of the year so you're just constantly rebuilding in Cleveland, it feels like. I think they won this division last season. They won this division, and I think they're a better team this year than they were last year.
39:57So I'm saying I think basically where they're sitting, odds makers have them pretty low. I think they're going to exceed expectations. I think they're either going to compete in this division. They're not going to be a doormat. It's not just, oh, Burrow and Lamar. I really think Rodgers is going to have one last go at it, Big Mike in his corner. We'll see, baby. God, I can't believe I'm rooting for Aaron Rodgers. I can't believe I just did that.
40:23Brockman:Plus, on defense, you still got Hayward, Wyatt, Queen. Yeah, and you don't know how many years you got left with Cam Hayward. I mean, I'm just saying, it feels like they're playing for something this season. And that power is big. I like that pick. I like it, too. So that's it. That's round two of the NFL sleeper team draft. I like it. I like where we're at with this. Round three is going to be very interesting, especially as we start to move up the odds makers charts here. So thank you. We will be back. More Rich Eisen Show with Seth freaking Rollins.
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42:30Brockman:Which one's forward and which one's back, though? I think the backslash goes right to left, like right up top. Slash? I think. See? See? I don't even know. See? I've confused everybody. I have no idea. I always thought it was the slash is the forward slash because you're going forward. Yeah, so right up top, down to the left, right? Down to the left. Yeah. Backslash is the other way. Yeah, left up top. Up, left. Right. Down, right. All right. my other question is do we find do we locate the board we're looking for the board we're looking for the board I'm just stepping away here I think it might be in here we have done some renovating in here and we obviously you've seen our desks in TJ's corner we have a lot of knick knacks there's a lot happening what we don't do here is throw stuff out so So, you know, it's around.
43:27We're going to find it. We're hoarders here. We are hoarders. This is, like, definitely over. I have – Cage used to give me race – Dad, take this race car to work. Sure. Why do I have seven race cars on my desk? I don't know. I don't know. Seven times. I'm not throwing them out. Yeah, I mean, that's different because it's, like, from your kid. Yeah. I mean, you can't. You can't. You just simply – TJ, I think it's in between that wall. TJ's just wandering around. You think it's over there in the corner? Yeah, I think it's in between the wall. Well, that's where it used to be. Trying to find boards.
43:52And it is. It is still there. The hot take plank was what he did. That's it. Amazing. It's the hot take plank with my jacket that we put on there. I have no idea why. Yeah. Let me get a feel for it. Let me get a feel. So we saw. What is it? Like a two by six? Jeffrey Ross earlier, you know, he was a samurai. And he could not break this board. This was like seven years ago. I have said that I could break the board. So now we've located the board, and I'm feeling it out. There are screws in this board. Yeah, you get hurt with that thing. It's just a piece of... It's like taped up. There's a hoodie around it.
44:36Well, because we sort of made it a person. Oh, it's a human now. Well, it's like a hot take. Then you break his back. A hot take, Pike. I don't know. I know. I think I can break this. Exactly. I think I can break this. I feel like you think you can do this. I don't think you can break it. That makes me nervous. Oh, stop, TJ. You can't say, you can't challenge me. Yeah, TJ. You can't challenge me.
44:59Brockman:All right. Guys, but we got to think about the repercussions and ramifications. Yeah. You want to do this tomorrow? Tomorrow we can set it up over here like we did with Jeff Ross. Remember we had Apple boxes? Yeah. You want to sleep on it too? Maybe consult the wife? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, let's see. Maybe consult the bosses? Everybody. Yeah. I am not going to consult my boss. Okay, good. No, I'm not going to do that. although they're probably going to watch this. He did just bend that. Yeah, I'm sort of. You just bend it. I felt the pliability. Yeah, he was bending that. I felt the pliability and I go, yes, I can put my fist through.
45:29My odds are on you breaking it without a doubt, but I don't want you to get hurt. Respect. That's the thing.
45:34Brockman:I did not want you to get hurt. I mean, we're just days away from the biggest main event in the history of SummerSlam. If I try it and I break my arm, it's fine. I'll mix it with one hand. But I mean, you can't do that. Now, are you thinking about going, okay, several questions. Yes. We've all seen Kill Bill, right? And she's in the thing doing the... Oh, yeah. Now, are you thinking about going fist through or like side fist? No, no, no. Forearm. Forearm through. Forearm and hammer fist it. Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe an elbow even. Yeah. I mean, look, you go forearm and something goes astray, then you can at least wrap it up like Iron Mike Sharp or Cowboy Bob Orton.
46:09Brockman:There you go. Yeah, we put it in a cast. There's another level. There's a cast there. Yeah, I'm not going to get hurt. The cast is a storied part of professional wrestling. And to be fair, Roman Reigns is a very formidable foe. So at the end of the day, I need all the help I can get. And I'd love for us to be another part of his history. He broke his forearm on the red side. Now he's wearing a cast. Don't even put that out there. See? That's what I'm saying. Now we're all on the same page here. Now he's a believer. All right, we've got everybody on board. Brockman, are you in? Are we going to give it a shot?
46:42I mean, if you're in, I'm in. If you like it, I'd love it. That's what I say. Let's go. Come on. Okay. Let's do the thing. The Ridge Eisen Show Podcast.
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