Hour 2: Hall of Famer Chris Webber Talks NBA, plus LeBron’s Lakers Future

17:46Rich Eisen:He thought it was AI. What the heck was that? It's insane, Chris.

17:49Chris Webber:It's crazy. Part of, you know, we say you can't stop any one person in the league, and I really believe that if they go to their favorite moves. The most dominant player I've ever seen is Shaquille O 'Neal. I don't think people just don't realize how dominant, how athletic, how fast, how quick and how strong he was. And then he had finesse. And at the time, coaches would not allow him to, which they shouldn't have, go out of the paint. But you'll see him in all star game and other clips where he could cross over and do things. When I evaluate a player, I evaluate them from, you know, all the normal metrics and game.

18:28Chris Webber:but also go into a personal bag and say how would I defend them and so if it's Wimbenyama I would say you got to be physical with him right but I would also say wait he can catch and face up on the post he can catch and cut one dribble jump hook wait a minute he can step back on the free wait he comes and he can set the pick and roll and pick or pop so when I look at the potential of someone like that, I mean, it is absolutely scary. And it's really, truthfully, not fair. It's just not fair because we've not seen anything like that before.

19:05Rich Eisen:And I'm knocking on wood for his health because, man, do I want to see him in the playoffs. I want to see the Spurs go on a run, and I want to see what's going to happen if they take on Oklahoma City and a seven-gamer. That's the sort of thing I'm looking forward to right now.

19:19Chris Webber:Rich, we're going to get to that, I'm sure. Sure. But I have San Antonio. Everybody's sleeping on San Antonio. When Fox went there last year, I just laughed and talked to Popovich and, you know, we love you, Pop. But if you remember their team with the great Tim Duncan and David Robinson, they had hype. But what did they have? They had Tony Parker. Why was he special? In a time with Shaquille O 'Neal, this guy was at the top of points in the paint because of pick and roll and that little hook shot he had. So he put defenses in a terrible situation because he got in the paint and could pass out the shooters like Ginobili and others, right?

20:01Chris Webber:That's all Fox and these guys are going to do. And I just watched them get better and better and better. And I think they're going to surprise some people with the potential that they have coming together earlier than people thought.

20:12Rich Eisen:All right, TJ, you want to hit one for Chris, and we'll let him go on with the rest of his day here and see him next week? What do you got, TJ? What's up, Chris? How you been, man?

20:19Chris Webber:Hey, man, what's up, man? How you doing?

20:21Rich Eisen:Good to see you. You know, back in the day, in our day, in the early 90s, you were one of the first cats, right, who kind of changed the game into a game of a big man with guard skills. You know what I'm saying? A 6 '9", 6 '10", 6 '14 player who could play down low, handle the rock, shoot. So who in today's game do you see a little bit of Chris Webber in? Are there players that you look at and go, man, that cat reminds me of me?

20:49Chris Webber:No. These players are so good today. I do believe it's the same skill set, but coaches have given them a freedom that we didn't have, so it's hard to judge with the consistency of that. I love Jokic. I would love to say, you know, I got a chance to play a little power forward and to have the ball as many times as he has in his spots. You know, it's a mastery, you know, at what he does. When I look at Giannis, the fact that before it was take two dribbles and get it to a teammate, the fact that he could take his time, lead the break and take a slower guy and dunk on him, maybe when they had a five on me would be, you know, interesting.

21:34Chris Webber:but I just love the evolution of coaching. I don't think it's the evolution of players because I saw guys like Magic, Derek Coleman, Steve Smith, and then dribbling. They just weren't allowed to do it in a game. And then it took other coaches, maybe the transition that were younger, to trust guys to go there and then it would incrementally kind of grow. And so, no. But I really don't see that only because you don't even have guys posting up anymore. So it's kind of hard to kind of regulate that. But I will say that the great game is in a great place because these guys have freedom. And what they're doing with that freedom is incredible.

22:14Rich Eisen:C-Webb, you are the man. I am so psyched you said yes when we're like, hey, how about every week on the program? And, you know, the season is going to get more and more intense. And then, of course, there comes March Madness with a certain team in Ann Arbor, Michigan, that has a two-game lead in the Big Ten regular season. that just can beat you in a million different ways right now that maybe we'll talk about them a little bit too, Chris. I'm sure.

22:38Chris Webber:I'm sure. It'll be fun. Let's go. Let's do it. I'm excited. Thanks for the invite. Looking forward to it, guys.

22:44Rich Eisen:Let's do it. Enjoy the All-Star Game wherever you're going to be taking it in, and we'll chat next week. Thanks, Chris. Look forward to it. Sounds good. Ladies and gentlemen, basketball Hall of Famer Chris Webber. So many different ways to go when we talk to the Renaissance, man. Put up that picture of Bill Russell one more time, if you don't mind. that this is a famous photograph of him rings yeah well i mean the other things that i think of of all the rings he didn't have enough fingers that's correct but the two rings that you see on one finger is the size of a current championship ring right right yeah the two together you know what i mean yeah yeah yeah i don't even know if it's quite like if you sized two of his championship rings from his Celtics days from the ring that, you know, Wick gave everybody a couple years ago, right?

23:35Rich Eisen:Would it match or would the current ring be bigger than the footprint of two rings on top of each other? I think the current ones are bigger. That's one of my favorite things at Super Bowl experience or when you go to the Hall of Fame. You see the evolution of the championship rings over the course of NFL history. The Packers' original ones are so small, much like the ones that Bill was wearing right now. Joe Namath is like a pinky ring. Yeah, Joe Namath is so and then all of a sudden, I don't know when it started, but they're just enormous now. Right. I mean, now some of them. Now there's a ring inside the ring.

24:04Rich Eisen:Right. Like you can snap it open or twist it. It's like a nestling bill. Right, yeah. It was Russian nestling. You open up one and then now you can put the top on the chain. It's true. The Eagles ring this year have wings on it? Yeah. Could you, if the Celtics did have one of those rings that you could twist open. You could put those rings inside. Could you put one of Bill Russell's rings in it? Two of them. 100%. Yo, I say we give a shout out to my man, Jason of Beverly Hills. He makes a lot of these rings. Jason, here's an idea. Put an old ring inside of a new ring, and that way they can have two rings.

24:36Rich Eisen:Yeah. So you could keep it. One for parties and one to wear all the time. Yeah, because you can't wear it around all the time. You know what I'm saying? It's too crazy out in them streets. So you need like a dummy ring just so you confront them. Dummy ring. But you don't really want to wear it for real. Look at the number of rings, the size of the rings, and, of course, the man. happy 92nd heavenly birthday. Wow, crazy. To Bill Russell. Let's take a break. We're back with more here on the Rich Eisen Show in a moment.

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27:36Rich Eisen:We have now corrected it graphically on the screen, so you have the floor, Swamp Dog. Okay. Well, Ernest Jones is from Waycross, Georgia. I don't know if you knew that or not,

27:47Chris Webber:but he played high school football right here in Waycross. I know he was dropping a bunch of four-letter words yesterday and everything, you know, emotions and excitement. Yes. Winning the Super Bowl, of course he would, you know. It's not uncommon that people do that. Let me tell you this about it.

28:03Rich Eisen:That's his second Super Bowl he's won.

28:06Chris Webber:And he won one with the Rams, with Matthew Stafford. You know the Georgia dog there. But when he comes, his family still lives here on Waycross. It's a small town, you know. But when he comes back, we have a parade for him here, too.

28:23Rich Eisen:Do you really? Do you really? Okay. Yes. And what he does when he comes back here, he goes into the poorer sides of town, and he sours people with gifts. No kidding. I'd like people to know that he does that kind of thing. You always hear the bad stuff about these millionaire football players and everything. They are so selfish, and they don't care about. He cares about where he comes from. Every time you see him introduced on TV, he says, Ernest Jones, Waycross, Georgia. He don't say the Ohio State University or anything like that. He says Lake Ross, Georgia. That's all he says. And he's proud of where he's from.

29:03Rich Eisen:Like I said, his family still lives here, and we know who he is. And it's really – we're very proud of what he's been able to accomplish. I didn't think he was going to be as good as he is.

29:16Chris Webber:He's really a good – one of the best linebackers in the NFL, in my opinion. so I just want to give him a shout out

29:24Rich Eisen:I didn't like his language that much by the way Swamp Dog he said and I appreciate thanks for the call he also said his grandfather didn't like the language too and so hopefully Grandpa had earmuffs on yesterday because boy that's pretty neat I'm glad that Swamp Dog shared that. That's awesome. I hope next football season we can do a little bit of that, you know, just chase the good stories, because like you said, there's always so much negative around these guys, and the positive definitely outweighs the negative. Hopefully we can shine a light on stuff like that. And that's why I love the, if you will, best picture of the NFL honors is the Walter Payton Man of the Year Award.

30:14Rich Eisen:It's not the MVP. And that's, you know, it was funny a few years ago when we realized, you know, like wow that that just closed the show the show does that mean this is bigger than the mvp and it kind of well there's no patch for the mvp right yeah maybe there should be that's kind of a cool idea what a patch for the mvp yeah that would be that's kind of cool uh my homes has one that's got like a two-time i know i know rogers wears a four-time one the walter payton is special with it's pat no i i i it's that's a it's an individual award right most valuable player and every mvp does the right thing and points out it's a team game but and walter peyton man of the year award is specifically for the individual and their work but in in a community to make to make more than just a 53 man roster and a franchise front office and all the staff better i mean to make a city in a community i i do love the patch i do i do too yeah you know and and they put the sticker on the of all the nominees as well yeah they do that and it's a great idea by the way i'd i'd walk around with that patch all the time didn't the year wit won it was the year they were in the super bowl right and they put the patch on for the game yes they started doing that yeah yeah if i guess if you're fortunate enough to be in the super bowl i think that's the only time i think i think someone will break out the needle and thread for you.

31:43Rich Eisen:Yeah. You know, if that's the case. Bobby Wagner won it this year. Yep. So I guess technically a Seahawk won it. I understand he's been with the Washington franchise, the Commanders, for a bit. Yeah, but when he makes his way to that bus room, people are going to think of him as a... Well, I mean, yeah, that's for sure. Let's take another phone call here, shall we? Let's go to Alex in New York City, where we're on ESPN radio there as well. What's going on, Alex? Hey, Rich. Can you hear me? We can. What's up? Awesome. How are you doing? How are you doing? Where in New York City are you calling in from?

32:21Rich Eisen:Manhattan? Manhattan. I'm originally from the Southern California area, so I'm a big Lakers fan. Okay. You're in the wrong city now, pal. I'll tell you that. I've personally given up on a finals run this season like a lot of us have. It's pretty clear we don't have a championship team. We didn't make those moves at the trade deadline. Going into this offseason, given the Lakers, I believe, are projected to have the most cap space in the league, do you think it's important for us to prioritize re-signing LeBron and paying him that asking price, even if it is that$50 million, or is it time for us to maybe move on and start building this team around that Luka and Austin Reeves backcourt?

32:59Rich Eisen:Because quite frankly, I'm watching our games sometimes, and I know the three of them haven't played together that much this year, But I feel like we can reconstruct this team so much better around that backcourt. And I don't think re-signing LeBron is the answer. He's my GOAT. I love him. But maybe it's time to move on. Well, I guess, Alex, we kind of touched on this subject matter a little bit with Brian Windhorst in studio on Wednesday. It really is, what does LeBron want? Because if LeBron's like, you know, I am playing and I am ring chasing, I would not blame him for a second. Like he wants to finish with confetti.

33:39Rich Eisen:That's the way every goat and certainly all-time great like LeBron wants to end. And is Los Angeles that spot? And the answer is potentially yes, but at his current financial freight, and maybe not. Now, will he say, I'm LeBron James and I deserve to be paid like I am LeBron James with the gate that I provide and all of this stuff? Would he have every right to do that? Absolutely. Would he be, I guess, a better ring chaser if he's more affordable? Yeah, I think so. And, you know, we, you know, talked about again with Windhorst on Wednesday. He mentioned Dirk Nowitzki at the end of his career taking less to stay with the Mavericks.

34:33Rich Eisen:And I made the analogy of Aaron Rodgers. Rodgers made, what, 12 million bucks this year? Something like that, yeah, 14 million. Aaron Rodgers could easily have said to the Steelers, you know, I'm not leaving Malibu for anything less than$40 million. And they might have been like, well, then, thank you, no. Right. And the market spoke. How will the market speak for LeBron? I don't know. Nobody knows. Nobody knows at all how much he's going to want and where he's going to want to play. And that's where it starts, Alex. You know, the Lakers, I'm sure, would love to keep him. Why wouldn't they? And the Lakers are kind of like in your adopted town, Alex, the Yankees, where they put on a show for an all-time great.

35:20Rich Eisen:They love retirement years. They can really give you every last ounce of it if you're looking for something that feels special. They can really put on a show, end of story. The Lakers do exactly that. The Lakers would love to have, I would think LeBron walk off into the sunset as a Laker having confetti coming down from crypto. They'd be all over that. But to make it happen, And I don't know what they could fit in salary-wise. And let's see how he finishes the season. You know, we were all assuming he's just going to be at the same level of physical and mental greatness because he's LeBron. You know, I know that's a bit of a nuanced answer, Alex, but that's my answer for you.

36:13Chris Webber:No, that makes a lot of sense.

36:14Rich Eisen:You got it. And Alex, it's Alex in Manhattan. New York City would be also, you know, I guess, what? Staten Island? You, Staten Island. Queens. Have you been to Staten Island yet, Alex? Not yet. Okay. I've been here a couple years, so I haven't made it out. It's okay. There's a ferry. There's a whole world out there, Alex. There's a whole world out there. Alex, you're good in Manhattan. No, no, no, no. You're good. There's some great food on Staten Island, pal. There is. They got pizza. There's no food in Manhattan. You're right. You don't know what you're talking about. You think you know what you're talking about.

36:45Rich Eisen:You don't. and by the way be on your best behavior for alex thanks for the call bud that's alex and man manhattan that was pretty aggressive rich why was it aggressive i don't know you're the one aggressive with me well you're trying to claim staten island is new york city you claim that new what main is new england it is not according to casey affleck it's not he kind of sunned maine a little bit i got honestly for somebody you think you think new england is just Boston? That's what the Bostonites think. That's what you're implying now. And you think New York City is just Manhattan? It's the same thing.

37:20Rich Eisen:Brian Wynhorst was here yesterday. He's from Omaha, Nebraska. If someone from Omaha, Nebraska thinks, I'm going to New York City for vacation, and you drop them off in Staten Island, they're going to be like, where the hell am I? But where do they land, Chris? They most likely land in Queens because that's where JFK is. Where the hell am I? That's where LaGuardia is. Where am I? That's New York City, bud. Not to someone from middle America. Yeah, but if you think I'm going to New England, people think I'm going to Boston. They do not. Oh, what are they? Oh, no, no, no. I'm going to Rhode Island.

37:54Rich Eisen:Oh, yeah. I can't wait to see New Hampshire. Casey Affleck essentially outed me. It's the same thing. It's the same thing. Yes, it is. That somebody from Maine says, I'm a New Englander, has a problem with someone from Staten Island saying I'm from New York City. It's the same thing. There's five boroughs of New York City. Staten Island is one of them. And there are how many states in New England? Tell me there's five. There's five. There's five. Isn't that interesting? Can you even name them? Yes. Vermont, New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Rhode Island. Yes. And your hamlet, sir. The Staten Island of New England, Maine.

38:35Rich Eisen:Connecticut, too, technically they're sick. And Connecticut is half. Half. I'm just saying. The Wu-Tang Clan represents Statlin' Island, all right? Connecticut's like the New Jersey of New England. Oh, stop! Don't go there. Don't go there. You are part of the metropolitan area. We are our own. Yes, but we are our own. Connecticut is part of the New England area. Connecticut, come on now. Southern Connecticut claims a little bit of New York. Ask anybody in Southwest Connecticut. Those people. And there's everybody in Bristol. They think they're New York. Bristol's like right on the Mason Dixon of Connecticut between New England and the New York metropolitan area.

39:14Rich Eisen:Connecticut, when you see the New York metropolitan area, it's New York, New Jersey, and Connecticut. Oh, but Connecticut's also part of New England. That's why it's the Jersey. It's the swing. It's the swing area, okay? Now, again, you're from Maine and part of New England, and I respect that. I don't know why it's not mutual. Well, that's all I'm saying. Your New York arrogance doesn't allow you to really see that Staten Island is like whatever. This guy, him and Casey Affleck, we're not insufferable, even though we're totally insufferable. Says the insufferable Yankee fan. Thank you, sir. Holler at your boy.

39:52Rich Eisen:Ask that guy. You told Method Man here that Staten Island's not part of New York. And by the way, deep down, he knows that I'm right. you're lucky it wasn't ghost face you said that take the guest line take the guest line take the guest line uh uh new england's finest suzy schuster's oh suzy i thought ray kwan the

40:09Chris Webber:chef was called what's up suzy this is the dumbest conversation i've ever heard no it's not suzy it's totally not if you think about new england you immediately think of like the shoreline of maine and you think of the lighthouse and lobsters if you ask a guy from nebraska about new england And he's going to say lobsters. He's going to say Maine, Rich.

40:30Rich Eisen:No, he won't. No, Susie, no. Sure. I'm going to agree on this one. No, they won't.

40:33Chris Webber:Are you kidding me?

40:34Rich Eisen:And by the way, Rich, we happened to Staten Island together once.

40:38Chris Webber:We got off the ferry. We put our foot down. We got back on a ferry. We went home to Manhattan, to New York City.

40:46Rich Eisen:No, I know that, but we didn't leave New York City that entire time, Susie. Not once. It's not like we went to Omaha. We went to Staten Island. The main of New York City. That's where we went.

40:58Chris Webber:So not the main of New York City. I'm on your side here, Rich. Sorry, happy time in. Happy time in. Sorry. All right, bye-bye. Ladies and gentlemen, Susie Schuster.

41:08Rich Eisen:Hopefully there's not an actual hit and run. Oh, stop. I've got to go after Susie. Sorry. Take the L here, bro. You're the figurative one right there. Rich, don't listen to him. You ain't taking an L on this one. No, I'm not. You want the guy who thinks Altoona is East Coast as a teammate? Yeah, I know. So what? That's not who you want. That's a problem. That's not who you want. I'd rather have Susie as a teammate in this, with all due respect. All right, well, you know what? Now you're both going on your own, all right? That's fine. First of all, I've been on my own from Staten Island my entire life.

41:37Rich Eisen:This is fine. Neither one of you want me to get on either one of you, I promise that. Just keep Jersey out of it. Roll your break. All right. I don't know why I'm so angry all of a sudden. I love you, Susie.

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45:23Rich Eisen:Let's go! Let's go! This is what Max had to say. People are going to have rumors. I just looked at my phone. I've been working all morning. I got another, you know, everyone's hit me up. Did you say this? Did you? It's I can't control that. You earn that as a player. You know, if I wasn't doing the right things and if I wasn't the person and player I was, you know, people wouldn't be talking about all the nonsense. But that's what comes with it. If you have drama, if you have a losing season, they just try to throw gasoline on the fire and make, you know, things a certain way. And for me, I know what I'm about.

45:58Rich Eisen:I know what I represent. You know what I mean? I really don't care what everybody has to say. I used to a lot as a young guy. I really don't give a damn. People could have their own opinions. I know what's going on. I know my truth. And I don't need to sit here and keep rehashing it to people that don't know what's going on. So I don't even waste time with it. All right. So fittingly, Jim Gray asked the follow-up question of like, all right. So what do you want? What do you want? I have a lot of goals, but I do want to win. That's all that matters ultimately. But I want to be in a place where mentally I'm 100 % myself.

46:41Rich Eisen:I just want to focus on football. That's truly what I want. People that know me know I'm about the work and football. I just want to play football and be left the f*** alone, period. and if people that don't understand that don't know me people can say whatever they want i i truly and i've said this like well you had to get on a show and talk about it yeah that's my obligation i have to do that but truly i don't give a f**k besides playing football and winning football games well i didn't know this was the lfg podcast he's like kevin durant he's like ernest jones like all he wants to do is play basketball and that's i don't think that's in dispute.

47:21Rich Eisen:The question is, does he want to be a Raider while doing that? Does he want to be left the F alone? Unless that's his way of saying, leave me alone. I'm a Raider, so just leave me alone and end the story. I mean, these reports aren't coming out of thin air. I don't know. Well, ask Tom Pelissero. What is the genesis of all this? Wow. Okay. Heck of a coffee. We know it was caffeinated. The Ridge Eisen Show Podcast. Monster Energy. Everybody knows White Monster Zero Ultra. That's the OG. It kicked off this whole zero sugar energy drink thing. But Ultra is a whole lineup now. You've got Strawberry Dreams, Blue Hawaiian, Sunrise, and Vice Guava.

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