Hour 2: Jaguars Head Coach Liam Coen, Notre Dame Head Coach Marcus Freeman, ‘4 Downs’ - Denver Broncos

31 Aug 2026 · 47 min · 19 chapters

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In short

Rich Eisen Show Hour 2 features Jaguars head coach Liam Coen discussing roster building, Trevor Lawrence’s development, and offensive/defensive expectations; then Notre Dame head coach Marcus Freeman discusses CJ Carr and the “leave no doubt” mindset, plus college football rules on transfers and eligibility. It also includes a “Four Downs” Broncos season-preview segment.

Guests and backgrounds

Liam Coen, Jacksonville Jaguars head coach (13-win AFC South title season last year); previously a longtime NFL coach. Marcus Freeman, Notre Dame head coach (entering sixth season; former Notre Dame defensive coach/leader). Also referenced: Trevor Lawrence (Jaguars QB), Quinn Ewers (acquired backup QB from Dolphins), Travis Hunter (Notre Dame two-way recruit returning from injury), and CJ Carr (Notre Dame QB).

Key claims

Coen says Lawrence’s best version comes from keeping it simple and using legs; expects Brian Thomas Jr. to rebound; Hunter will be used on offense while ramping back from injury; Jaguars running back room will be “chip on shoulder” and includes Tewin, Chris Rodriguez, LaQuinn Allen, Amir Abdullah. Freeman says “leave no doubt” is about daily preparation, not just a chip; supports limiting unlimited transfers (possible sit-out year); opposes allowing players who signed pro contracts to return to school.

Notable examples

Coen highlights Lawrence’s red-zone improvement and detailed QB responsibilities (protections/alerts). Freeman cites evaluating preparation from January through August and a home-visit story about Jeremiah Love’s perfectly aligned shoes. Broncos “Four Downs” asks whether Sean Payton truly won’t call plays, the “Waddle effect” with Jalen Waddle, whether the defense can reach 70 sacks, and whether Bo Nix can be an MVP finalist.

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Kickoff to Hour Two

1:40 to 2:39

Rich Eisen sets the stage for Hour 2 with upcoming guests and a recap of Overreaction Monday.

“From the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles.”

Interview with Liam Cohen

2:39 to 4:13

Jaguars head coach Liam Cohen discusses the team's roster and preparation.

“Chris Brockman and I have already recorded it.”

Trevor Lawrence's Development

4:13 to 6:28

Cohen shares insights on Trevor Lawrence's growth and quarterback dynamics.

“with stars on the roster to talk about the backup quarterback position, but it is a crucial position in the National Football League.”

Team Dynamics and Leadership

6:28 to 8:14

Discussion on the leadership qualities of Trevor Lawrence and team dynamics.

“I know our defensive staff hates preparing for a quarterback that can extend plays with his legs and be able to get out of the pocket and make plays.”

Brian Thomas Jr. and Offensive Strategy

8:14 to 10:41

Cohen evaluates Brian Thomas Jr.'s performance and the offensive strategy moving forward.

“and I think his leadership is just continuing to grow and escalate in terms of, man, he can go, this is his team, and I want it to be that way.”

Travis Hunter's Role and Expectations

10:41 to 13:59

Cohen addresses Travis Hunter's potential as a two-way player and the team's expectations.

“And we've seen some really cool stuff this offseason so far.”

Jaguars Head Coach Liam Coen on Team Plans

14:00 to 20:30

Liam Coen discusses the Jaguars' running back situation and team mindset.

“hey, we want to try to get you involved here as much as possible.”

Marcus Freeman on CJ Carr and Team Goals

23:53 to 28:01

Freeman shares insights on CJ Carr's potential and the team's focus for the season.

“And what does that mean is that if you want a competitive football player that's a winner, that is a leader, that prepares, like he does all those different things, and he's gifted with ability.”

Preparing for Week One

28:01 to 29:08

Learn how teams evaluate their preparation and practice effectiveness before the season starts.

“But if all of a sudden you say, we left out, so it's our job to leave no doubt.”

College Football Transfer Rules

29:09 to 30:28

Discussion on the implications of transfer rules in college football and their impact on young athletes.

“That is a tough question to answer with just one with one thing.”
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Challenges in College Football

30:29 to 32:16

Explore the difficulties faced by college football players regarding late admissions and unexpected roster changes.

“And where do you stand on the fact that high school is no longer just the only feeder system into college, the National Football League as well?”

Helicopter Dads in Sports

32:17 to 34:20

A light-hearted conversation about the presence and influence of parents in their children's sports careers.

“Who is a worse helicopter dad, Jerome Bettis or Larry Fitzgerald?”

Jeremiah Love's Potential

34:21 to 36:21

Insights on Jeremiah Love's journey and his promising future in professional football.

“Did you think about maybe testing that out by touching one of his shoes and seeing?”

Jadarian Price's NFL Opportunity

36:22 to 37:57

Discussing Jadarian Price's transition to the NFL and expectations for his performance.

“And every single time that he did that, they're like, keep your feet on the ground, kid.”

Jadarian Price's NFL Opportunity

40:37 to 40:57

Discussing Jadarian Price's transition to the NFL and expectations for his performance.

“A SoFi personal loan is here to help you achieve something once thought impossible, and that's overcoming high-interest credit card debt.”

Jadarian Price's NFL Opportunity

41:01 to 41:11

Discussing Jadarian Price's transition to the NFL and expectations for his performance.

Four Downs Season Preview: Denver Broncos

41:12 to 42:00

Previewing the upcoming season for the Denver Broncos and key player dynamics.

“I've got myself a four-down season preview of the Denver Broncos.”

Analyzing the Denver Broncos' Potential

42:00 to 45:44

Explore the strategic outlook and key players for the Denver Broncos this season.

“Head coaches are the most control freakish people I've ever met.”

Discussion on AFC Odds and Team Comparisons

45:44 to 47:40

Engage in a conversation about the Broncos' odds in the AFC and comparisons to other teams.

“Definitely, yeah, you know, a lot riding on Bo Nix.”
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1:13Rich Eisen:This is the Rich Eisen Show. Hey, everybody. Can't get enough of the Rich Eisen Show? You're in luck. You can find us everywhere. Watch us weekdays on Disney Plus from noon to 3 Eastern. Miss the show? We've got a podcast so you can listen anytime. But here's the best part. Our YouTube channel. Subscribe at youtube.com slash Rich Eisen Show and you'll never miss a moment. Now, on with the show. This is the Rich Eisen Show. Our long national nightmare is over. From the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles. Where is A-A-Rom? I know the world was saying all types of different things. You know, I kind of knew for two weeks.

1:58Earlier on the show, Jaguars head coach, Liam Cohen. Coming up, Notre Dame football head coach, Marcus Freeman. Rams general manager, Les Snead. And now, it's Rich Eisen.

2:16Rich Eisen:Hour number two of the Rich Eisen Show is on the air. Marcus Freeman of Notre Dame Football will be joining us in just a matter of moments. In about 20 minutes time, Les Snead, the general manager of the Los Angeles Rams, is going to join us in hour number three of this program. I wonder if there's anything to talk about with him. 844-204-RICH is there to have a chat with all of us here on this program. Overreaction Monday. Chris Brockman and I have already recorded it. And that's in your RSS feed if you want to listen. Or there's our YouTube channel, youtube.com slash RichEyesandShow. You got that Bill O 'Brien drop?

2:52Rich Eisen:Remember, you know, because he says this to his quarterback every day. You know, he says it every day to his quarterback. As he said to the, if you don't have it, you don't have it, Mike. It's okay. Your trigger finger's a little bit off right there. Yeah. Because what's up, Trevor, every day? Anyway, long story short, there's only one guy in the history of the Jacksonville Jaguars who coached a team to more wins than this man did last year in his 13-win AFC South championship season. That would be Tom Coughlin back in the day when they won 14 games. What's up, Trevor? There we go. Well done. Liam Cohen back here on the Rich Eyes Show.

3:29Rich Eisen:How are you, Coach? Good to see you, man. How are you? Hi, guys. What's going on in your neck of the woods? Oh, man. Just trying to finalize rosters here and getting ready to go. I was about to say, what is that process like for you, Liam? Yeah, it's, you know, James Gladstone is in the personnel department, do a phenomenal job, but it's collaborative. We're constantly trying to upgrade and create competition within your own roster, and then obviously having to look outside a little bit as players are getting cut, released, potential trades. It's kind of nonstop within this window right now, but it's going to settle in here pretty quickly.

4:10Rich Eisen:Well, and let's jump into that one right here. Don't usually start an interview with a guy who won a division the year before with stars on the roster to talk about the backup quarterback position, but it is a crucial position in the National Football League. And you went ahead and acquired Quinn Ewers from the Dolphins, another team. And so how do you, like, walk me through a mindset to go ahead and get somebody who you're going to have to bring up to speed, if you will, two weeks before a season? Yeah, definitely a challenge to get him onboarded here in the short term. And I think Quinn, you know, really followed him a ton at Texas.

4:50We interviewed him coming out of the draft and really liked the guy. He's got a great center, you know, football. He gets the quarterback position. He's played it at a high level. He was highly recruited, five-star quarterback, all those things. but really appreciated what he put on tape last year in Miami when he got some of those opportunities to go play. Beat Tampa in one of those games there back at home, and I thought he did some really nice things. He's got arm talent, that's for sure, and now it's just about getting him onboarded. Nick Mullins and Joey Aguilar are here right now as well with us, and all these guys are all hands on deck trying to get him up to speed.

5:30Spencer Whipple, our quarterbacks coach, obviously very involved, And myself and Grant Udinski will be a little bit more involved with Trevor as we lead up into the game.

5:40Rich Eisen:And obviously, Trevor coming off of a remarkable season last year. What do you feel like you together unlocked in Trevor Lawrence that's going to cascade over to 2026, Coach? I think just being him, like being the best version of himself. I mean, when you try to sometimes do too much or you've been in multiple systems and now even in year two of our system, you may look to do too many different things. And when Trevor keeps it simple, goes through a read and then, hey, man, he doesn't like it. He has the opportunity and athleticism to use his legs as a weapon. It's something that we benefited greatly from last season, especially in the red zone.

6:24and just continuing to urge him to be himself, to go be the quarterback that you are while using your arm as a weapon. But don't forget about using your legs. And that's such a huge advantage. I know our defensive staff hates preparing for a quarterback that can extend plays with his legs and be able to get out of the pocket and make plays. So just encouraging him to continue to be him. I thought we saw a really great version of him towards the back end of the year as he got more comfortable. And we've got some playmakers that he can get the ball to in space and we protect him. Good things can happen.

6:59Rich Eisen:Yeah. And just seeing him have a command, you know, in a way that feels like an extension of you. You know what I mean? Like, and that's what you want to see as a fan or certainly from somebody in my position. I want to see how is the coach and quarterback connected? So how would you say he is an extension of you? we have. This guy works extremely hard. I don't know if he gets enough credit for his preparation, the way that he goes through a game plan. He's a smart dude that gets it, but he works extremely hard at it. We put a lot on our quarterback, right? As you know, there's a lot that goes into playing the position in the NFL in general, but specifically in this system, what he's asked to do from a protections, kills, Oscars, alerts, all those things that he has to do, never mind just snap the ball and go execute a play.

7:54He works at it. Our relationship, I can't be happier about it from in terms of both on and off the field. We've been able to spend more time together since the season ended, spent a lot of time this spring working together. I've got a tremendous amount of respect for Trevor, both as a player and as a person. and I think his leadership is just continuing to grow and escalate in terms of, man, he can go, this is his team, and I want it to be that way. We all do. And so he has the ability to let players know, hey, man, this is the standard. This is what I'm looking for from you. And continue to demand more from himself and his teammates.

8:35Rich Eisen:So are the Coens and the Lawrences having a game night? Is that what you're saying? We were able to spend time, rich, out at the Super Bowl this year, Obviously, he was up for the comeback player of the year, and we were out there to celebrate him and be able to spend some more time together. And I got a different side of Trevor. I got a little bit of the person, seeing him off the field, his responsibilities that he has when he has to go to some of these events and some of the fundraising and the volunteer work that he did. He's such a special dude in terms of in our community here in Jacksonville.

9:10what he does for the people, the fans, the kids. He and his family have really made an impact here.

9:17Rich Eisen:Liam Cohen, head coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars here on the Rich Eisen Show. Despite Trevor's terrific year, Brian Thomas Jr. had a step back from his rookie season. What's the third year Brian Thomas Jr. going to look like, do you think, Coach? I'm excited to see it. I am. I really have been extremely pleased with the way that he's attacked this offseason starting from the spring. When we got back here in OTAs, this guy was locked in, really took to some of the three better, three best ways that we talk about development and things that we need to improve upon, but also lean into the great things that he's able to do.

10:00He's attacked this offseason in the right way. his relationship with Trevor. I mean, you got to go back and think in 24, they didn't play together a ton, right? A lot of that season, Trevor was hurt. And so really building on that chemistry, that relationship, he's been extremely engaged. He's been awesome to work with. And he can roll, man. When he's playing at a high level, our offense is just different. It is. And so he has that ability to draw, you know, number one coverage on the defensive side of the ball. You know, you have to double him sometimes if you feel like he's getting past the third level of the defense.

10:39So we're really excited about it. And we've seen some really cool stuff this offseason so far.

10:44Rich Eisen:Yeah, and you got Jacoby Myers for a full year now. You know, Parker Washington had a great step forward season last year. So you know where I'm going with this one because you know how I feel about this player. Do we see Travis Hunter in this wide receiver room, coach? Yeah, absolutely. So Leo definitely packaged on offense to be able to get him some opportunities on offense. There's been a steady increase in his defensive work just by nature of where we're at on defense and continuing to try to create some consistency. And what I told him was like, hey, we want you to be a game wrecker. We want other teams to put you on their list as somebody that they have to prepare for and have a plan for.

11:29And so there's been a lot of detail and time on task this offseason. He'll absolutely have a plan on offense where we're, look, I can't coach some of the things he can do with the ball. And so we're going to continue to try to put him in positions where he can be successful with, you know, a major focus being obviously on the defensive side right now.

11:49Rich Eisen:Yeah, I mean, you talk about a steady workload, Coach. I mean, the steady conversation in my end of the business, based on the steady workload on the defensive side of the ball, is that the idea of Travis Hunter being a two-way player is over. What would you say to that narrative? I'd say not so fast. You know, let's pump the brakes and just give the guy a chance to give back from, obviously, a pretty serious injury in which he's worked his tail off. to get himself into the position where he can continue to do those things. What the exact number of reps looks like, I can't say right now. But I do know that he's a playmaker.

12:30He's somebody that we want to get the ball in his hands to. And what that looks like, we're continuing to work through. But, you know, I'd love to see some guys maybe give him a little grace and time to understand what he just went through and the work that he's put in. And I'm extremely proud of him to be at the point that he's at right now. So I think he's got a shot to be pretty good.

12:54Rich Eisen:Yeah, I know your job is not to manage expectations in the media, but your job is to definitely, I'd imagine, how much of your job is to manage his expectations? Because I imagine he wants all the snaps on, you know, just like in Colorado, just like the reason why you went and moved up a spot to go draft him as high as you did, right? He's a competitor, man. That's the whole reason why we drafted him. Obviously, the two-way ability was a huge part of it, but it was truly why we drafted Travis Hunter was because of the humor, because of the competitor, because of the football and natural play style that he has, the energy that he brings on a day-to-day basis into our building.

13:35The room lights up when he comes in the room, and so he just gets it. He's a football player through and through, and we're going to work with him to get to being the two-way player that he wants to be. We all want to see it. It's also, like you mentioned, hey, making sure that we're taking the proper steps and getting them back, obviously, from the injury that he had and continuing to be patient, but also understand, hey, we want to try to get you involved here as much as possible.

14:03Rich Eisen:A few minutes left with Jaguars head coach Liam Cohen here on the Rich Eisen Show. Walk me through how you view your running back room because, you know, you did lose to Travis, for sure. He's now in New Orleans. Walk me through your plans for your running back room, if you don't mind. Yeah, I think that this group is eager, hungry, have a little bit of a chip on their shoulder. You know, they hear everything out there as well. And so we look, we can't replace what TJ was able to do for us at times last year, right? Like that's, that's not the case. We're looking for consistency, efficiency, and for these guys to just go be themselves because they're not going to compare themselves or we're not going to do that to those guys, right?

14:45They're totally different players. I think Tewin has had a really good camp, especially the last two weeks, in his joint practices against Carolina and Tampa. I thought Chris Rodriguez coming in, being somebody that I have a lot of experience with and have worked with in the past, being a little bit more of that thump and be able to get some of those difficult, hard yards that we all know you need in this league. LaQuinn Allen is one of our running backs that's specific to third down, and he's our pass protector. He's a savage. Love him. And then Amir Abdullah is a guy that's a 12-year, I think, that just continues to do the right things.

15:26He's a great example in the room, but he also – he's got some juice too now. And so we're excited about that room, Rich. I think it's a room that's going to maybe surprise some people.

15:35Rich Eisen:Yeah, and your defense was a takeaway machine last year and Devin Lloyd no longer being there. It's another opportunity for you to rally your guys and basically tell everybody opportunities are there. And in that regard, you mentioned Chip on your shoulder before I let you go here. I did kind of spend a little bit of time before the show on the NFL Network site, counting up all the Caleb Williams photographs that I saw. Seemed to be right around 40. It's not a shot at Caleb Williams or the Bears. That just so happened to be on the app. I know. I'm having a little bit of fun. I'm having a little bit of fun.

16:14But it's more so the point that you're making is the point I was making. Yes. As we know, it's it's not out there. We understand that. But our whole motto is, you know, anyone, anytime, anywhere. And that's the mindset we have to have as a team. Got a ton of respect for every opponent that we play against. But we have a lot of respect and appreciation for the locker room that we have and the staff that we have here. And that's the focus. Right. It's more so we can't control the narrative. We can't control the outside respect other than just doing our jobs and going and putting the best product out there for our fan base and the people that truly support us.

16:56Rich Eisen:Yeah, I mean, because, again, you're not going to be sneaking up on anybody. That's for damn sure. Certainly when you go to Denver week two, I mean, they're going to be ready, and you know that. But, I mean, and again, I know you weren't making fun of Caleb Williams and you respect the hell out of him, but you're kind of making a point here is that you won the division last year. A lot of folks are looking at you as potentially take a step forward and others are not. And I'm just wondering how you are, what you're going to say to your team, you think. Yeah, it's, you know. We have a challenging schedule.

17:33Every year in this league, it's a challenge, right? And you have to earn it every given Sunday. and that's all we're really trying to focus on. We know that we're going to be going to some hostile environments and so how we prepare and how we continue to train in this weather here in Jacksonville, we feel is an edge for us. We feel like it gives us a mental and physical edge being down here and training in these elements and we have to use every little advantage that we have to use as an edge. And so when you go to Denver and you go to some of these other difficult places to play, hey, look, guys, we've been in difficult atmospheres.

18:18We train in it. We're ready for it. And our guys are preparing for that. They understand that, look, we're not going to probably sneak up on many teams this year, but it's about us. It's about our internal focus and not as much on the opponent. and you get into it in game week, you know who their good players are, you go through their scheme, but it's ultimately about our execution, our effort, and our edge.

18:43Rich Eisen:Yeah, and my last one for you, if you don't mind, I'm going to go beyond the week-to-week stuff here, man, because the goal is to go to the Super Bowl. The goal is to take Jacksonville to its first-ever Super Bowl. And of all places, here in Los Angeles, where you used to be part of the Ram staff, and everybody's expecting now that Aaron Donald is back for the Rams to be here on that day as well. What would it mean for you to be the first head coach for Jacksonville to take a team to a Super Bowl and potentially win one here in Los Angeles, maybe even against the Rams? Coach, what would that mean?

19:17That's the goal, right? It's every team's goal, I think, when you head into a new season. But I think our guys have confidence, Rich. I think our guys have confidence that we are a good football team, but we have to go prove it. And for me personally, this is all about trying to continue to create a respectable product that our fan base, community, ownership can all be proud of. That's what we're hunting up. We're hunting up giving this city an organization that they continue to be proud of and respect. And you have to go take it. You have to go earn it in this league. Nobody's going to give you anything.

19:55You had a good year last year. Absolutely. That's great. it's really about what we're trying to do right now. To be able to go and play in L.A. would be amazing and compete against whoever that would be. And that is the end game. That's the goal. But definitely trying to take it one day at a time.

20:12Rich Eisen:Hey, man, great chatting with you. Thanks again. I always enjoy our chats. Thanks again. I appreciate it, Rich. I'll tell Tony Khan he said hello. Yeah, please do. We got his neck brace over there still. We got that still going on. The fame neck brace. Thanks again, Coach. You be well. Thanks, Rich. That's Liam Cohn, everybody, head coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Again, one of our favorites. And again, Travis Hunter, I got to see him bum both sides of the ball. I'm always going to be pounding that drum. I know. He's just so damn special. And the coach has got this team pointed in the right direction, which is at the opponent.

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23:47Rich Eisen:rich eisen show is back on espn radio along with disney plus and the espn app marcus freeman head coach of notre dame football is here uh you know i i met cj carr for the first time as a little kid you know at a couple of michigan events um he was probably like six years old and i had a great chat with him the other day he's just a really good kid with a lot of great stuff um you know inside and the head on his shoulders. What's it like coaching him? Oh, man. It's almost like you create a player. And what does that mean is that if you want a competitive football player that's a winner, that is a leader, that prepares, like he does all those different things, and he's gifted with ability.

24:36But I think the thing that you just mentioned is off the field. He's just the perfect individual. I know he's perfect, but he is such a great human being. And it's a pleasure to coach him and be around him and to grow with him. And out on top of that, he's a heck of a quarterback. And so he's making our team better. And as I told him, that's his greatest responsibility. It's not to throw touchdowns, win the Heisman, be a first-round pick. It's to be the best leader he can be and to make his teammates better. Because if he does that, the rest of it will take care of itself.

25:13Rich Eisen:But that said, I mean, the Heisman hype is already beginning. How do you handle that as a coach? I think my job is to continue to remind him of where his focus should be. And that winning the Heisman is a reflection of a lot of different things. And so he can either waste time focusing on winning the Heisman or he can continue to focus on the things that will make him the best football player he can be. And he does that. But we all need reminders. And that's my job is to continue to remind him of what things are important. How do we take pressure off of you? When you think about winning the Heisman and winning national championships, those those that's high pressure.

25:52I mean, it's overwhelming. But when you think about I got to have a good Monday and I got to be the best teammate I can be and I got to encourage guys, I got to hold him accountable and I got to prepare. We can handle that. And that's where his focus has to be continuously.

26:06Rich Eisen:I had my fun with him a little bit when we chatted coach, because I asked him about how being left out of the college football playoffs last year affected him and how it's going to be potentially a chip on the shoulder of the team this year. And he's like, not really. And then he revealed your motto for the year is leave no doubt. I'm like, hold on a minute. Like we're, that's not just coming out of the ether. So is that your message? Leave no doubt based on last year. It's the interpretation of the message. A lot of people are running with this thought of we have a chip on our shoulder. We have to leave no doubt this year because of what happened last year.

26:44No, I use it and we use it as a reminder to leave no doubt today that this is the best Monday that you prepare tremendously. You did everything you were supposed to do to elevate on this Monday. and and that's how we're using that as a program is to leave no doubt with what we have guaranteed and that's this game in front of us that's the opportunity we have today and a chance to get better and so if we do that over and over and over and over then we'll leave no doubt for the season but we're not focusing on that we're using about leave no doubt today yeah i know but you're you're a whip smart individual you're it's you're not this is not your first rodeo you know how it's

27:22Rich Eisen:going to be interpreted right like leave no doubt like those moments that that that put an l on your sheet that cost you like leave no doubt because you could have you could have won right i mean you you do see that part of it oh yeah 100 and and and here's here's how we also use it is that we left doubt last year and it's our ability to not make an excuse and blame somebody else for not getting into the playoffs or not getting what we want. I think if every opportunity that's a negative situation, you can either blame somebody else, but then you don't use it. How do you use it to get better? But if all of a sudden you say, we left out, so it's our job to leave no doubt.

28:05Now you use it as an opportunity to evaluate everything you've done. We evaluate everything we did from January to fall. I mean, through through August to say, how do we make sure that we're better prepared for week one, no matter who the opponent is? I don't care if it was Miami last year or Wisconsin this year. How do we ensure that we are at a higher elevation that doesn't determine the outcome of the game? That doesn't determine it's not determined by what the score of the game was. It was determined by are we intentional about how we practice, how how much we practice, how much film? Are we a fresher team?

28:40All these different areas to make sure we're ready to go week one.

28:43Rich Eisen:Marcus Freeman here on the Rich Eisen Show. If you don't mind, I ask this of all your colleagues with your stature in the sport. you could wave a wand and make a rule to do something about getting more sense of what appears to have few rules that everybody follows together in the sport. What would it be? Oh, man. Yeah. What would it be? That is a tough question to answer with just one with one thing. OK. It really is. Well, if you want to expand it, go for it. You know, I think of a couple different things, right? I think of what's best for young people, the ability to transfer every year whenever they want or the ability to transfer maybe one time or whatever we come up with.

29:43But I don't think it's it's best for young people to be able to transfer nonstop without some type of of not punishment, but a there's something that you're something that's taken away, which could be you have to sit out a year. And I say that because when you you have to learn to overcome discomfort, you have to learn to overcome adversity. And it's not always a line to do that when at the end of the season, if you don't love the situation you're at or maybe somebody is offering you more money, do you just get up and transfer every time? And so I am such an advocate for young people. And I might not understood this at 18 to 22, but I understand this now at my age and that we have to continue to find ways to help them learn to be self-sufficient and overcome some different challenges.

30:41Rich Eisen:And where do you stand on the fact that high school is no longer just the only feeder system into college, the National Football League as well? Where do you stand on that front? Coach? Well, we I think I was asked that in a press conference the other day. We, you know, we we we can't, number one, admit a kid into school this late and think that they'll have a chance to succeed in the classroom and on the field. And so our AD came out and said he's in alignment with the Big Ten and the SEC with not allowing guys that have signed professional contracts to come back to school. And so I'll let that speak for itself.

31:22But at the same token, like for me, when they say the young man will not be prepared to have success if we admit him into school, we started school last week. and they've done through all their admissions process. That makes a lot of sense. We don't want to put these young people in jeopardy.

31:39Rich Eisen:Well, the thing I was talking about here too is what about all the kids that were busting their butts in spring and summer, thinking that they have earned a spot, earned a certain number of snaps, and then all of a sudden the Cleveland Browns cut somebody and you're going to have them come on the team two weeks before the season and say, welcome, come on. That ain't easy either. That's not easy. It's not right. And somebody could argue that, hey, okay, what if you get somebody hurt for the year? Because you can replace a guy that's out for the entire season. I just still don't think that's great for college football to be able to do that.

32:16Rich Eisen:All right. A couple more minutes left with Marcus Freeman entering sixth season as Notre Dame head coach. Who is a worse helicopter dad, Jerome Bettis or Larry Fitzgerald? Those two, you don't ever see them around. You see them at the game, and they support their sons. Sometimes it's those ones that maybe didn't play, that they might be around more than the Larry Fitzgeralds and the Jerome Bettises. Okay, so they're not helicoptering anywhere? No. Not making demands of uniform numbers or anything like that? No, no, no. Now, I'm not listening to the one-on-one conversations. Okay. I don't see my son's a wrestler at Cornell in his first year.

33:04And I'm never there. But now we do have some some conversations on the phone that maybe somebody said, man, you're a helicopter dad. Well, let's do the phone, you know. And so. All right. You know, but they're not here at practice or things like that.

33:17Rich Eisen:That's a bummer. It'd be pretty cool to have him around at some point. Imagine, you know, not too bad. They're accessible. I'll tell you that. OK, that's cool. And let's talk about, you know, your favorite Jeremiah Love story, because he's on a launching pad right now out there in Arizona. What do you got for me? Your favorite Jeremiah Love story, Marcus? There's a lot of them, but probably the one that sticks out is when we were doing a home visit when he was in high school. And I saw him at school and I said, hey, we'll be at your house tonight. And we beat him to the house. And so his father and mother were giving us a kind of a tour of the house.

33:52and right in his room, like he had these perfectly aligned shoes. I can't remember how many there were, but they're perfectly aligned. And I think when we start looking at him, there's a couple of coaches there and his dad said, don't touch one of those shoes, because if you do, he'll notice. He knows exactly how to replace him. And that's a little bit of who he is, man. He wants everything placed perfectly, his locker perfectly. And, you know, that was something that I always remember about him.

34:21Rich Eisen:Did you think about maybe testing that out by touching one of his shoes and seeing? No, I didn't know him that well at the time. I was a little bit worried. Like, man, is this dude, what's going on? Is he going to come after us or something happens with his shoes? But once you get to know him, you know, it's a little bit of that kind of that OCD. He wants it perfectly. He wants everything aligned the way he has it. Yeah, I think that that would be helpful maybe for a football player. and more that way than sort of like a stepbrother's drum set moment, which you don't want to have. But just seeing him in the preseason action, it's just one of those things.

34:59Rich Eisen:Clearly, obviously, we're watching your games, but to see him with professional football players, you could just see he's got it. People were mentioning Adrian Peterson type of build and burst and things like that. which is a high praise. I don't mean to put it on him, but he just looks it right now. That is high praise, man. I remember watching it. I actually played against Adrian Peterson in the high school All-American game, and he made me look stupid in that game. And I watched him as he went on his college and his pro career. He did that to many other people. But I only saw clips of one game where Jeremiah played, and I think it was the one versus the Raiders, and you saw him jump over somebody, you saw him do that spin move.

35:47And I always, even in college, I held my breath every time he had the ball because I worried about, man, him getting hit when he did one of these spin moves. Or, you know, he's just got this unique body where I used to call him gumbo. Like he's like he can take hits and not get injured. But, you know, I'm sure when he's in the air in the NFL, that GM and that owner saying, hey, man, keep your feet on the ground. And so I just want him to stay healthy because if he does, he'll play a long time.

36:21Rich Eisen:Yeah, I was watching that game next to Michael Robinson and Maurice Jones Drew on the NFL Network set. And every single time that he did that, they're like, keep your feet on the ground, kid. Don't do that. But he's got such an incredible skill set and obviously being drafted as high as he was. that's why we're talking about him before i let you go let's talk about jadarian price jadarian's got like this opportunity here he's he's playing for the defending super bowl champs who dispatched or let the super bowl mvp walk from that spot how good do you think he can be what what are you hearing from him as well i know that's two questions in one but what do you have on that front I remember having a conversation with him after the season saying, hey, you know, you can come back here and be RB1 and to get all these carries in the show, the NFL, what you do with the opportunity to be RB1.

37:15And, you know, he obviously went to the NFL and still became a first round draft pick. So now it's going to be interesting to see him do it at that level. And I'm as confident in him because of the way he works. Shadarian is a team first guy, but will work tirelessly to be the best version of him. He's on a great team with a great coach. And, you know, his running backs coach is Thomas Hammock, who was the head coach of Northern Illinois, who I've gotten to know a little bit. And he reached out after they drafted him and maybe had minicamp and said, he's everything you told me he was going to be.

37:51and I'm excited to see what the fruits of his labor becomes here his first year as a rookie in the NFL.

37:58Rich Eisen:Well, I say to you, sir, thank you as always for joining here. Best of luck to you, certainly against Michigan State. You and I, you know, we see each other on that one. You know where that's coming from. And, you know, say hi to everybody when they're coming through. Jerome and Larry are two of my favorite people. I just saw him in Ohio for the Hall of Fame. and I can't wait to see what you do with CJ Carr this year. Absolutely, man. I appreciate it. I'll let him know you said hello. Please. And always, it's a pleasure to be on your show. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. That's Marcus Freeman, the head coach of Notre Dame football, getting set to take on Wisconsin in Lambeau Field, of all places, on NBC.

38:39Rich Eisen:That'll be a lot of fun right here on the Rich Eisen Show. That's Marcus Freeman. Boom. Love it. I think he's protecting Jerome. I think Jerome's a helicopter.

38:54Rich Eisen:I saw both of them in Ohio, obviously. Jerome, he's so psyched. Yeah, wow, of course. He's so psyched. Because he's like, you know, CJ Card, just like me, could have played for Michigan, but we decided to go to Notre Dame. All right, enough. I get it. I get it. Both from Michigan. You could have played there. No, you go to Notre Dame. I get it. That was fun. All right, we take a break. Denver Broncos four downs and I've got also Les Snead coming up and your phone calls at 844-204-RICH right here on the Rich Eisen Show.

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41:20Rich Eisen:Yeah. How many teams left to season preview? No time. Go ahead and hit it. Four downs with Rich. Here we go. Why did he stop the guy? All right. Four downs on the Denver Broncos season preview. Here are the burning questions. Number one, Davis Webb is calling the plays now, right? But with all due respect to him, this is the way I'm asking the question first down. What in the world does Sean Payton not calling the plays look like? What does that look like? Because again, you know, obviously Davis Webb will be the one in Bo Nix's ear. And it is remarkable that Sean Payton has decided to not be the guy in Bo Nix's ear.

42:02Rich Eisen:Head coaches are the most control freakish people I've ever met. and Super Bowl winning head coaches with Hall of Fame resumes, as Sean Payton has, are the most control freakish people. And so he's going to go ahead and just hand it over. What does it look like? You know, two minutes to go, four minutes to go. Davis Webb is standing there and Sean's just like arms crossed. Right. Just pacing down the sideline. Like, what does it look like? Curious. You know, and that's first down. Second down. Second down. The Waddle effect. Jalen Waddle on this team. What in the hell is that going to look like?

42:52Rich Eisen:It's Cortland Sutton, you know, big, tall, physical guy. Then there's the other guys that are on the team with all due respect. And now this kid comes in for a first round pick. What's it going to look like? What's this, what burst to this offense will we see from number 17? You know, Broncos have not really had anybody like him in the Sean Payton world. Even before that, too. What will the Waddle effect be? How will that open the run game? What will he be in terms of, you know, first down guy, second down guy, third down guy? Is it third and Waddle, right? What we're going to have here. First and Sutton, third and Waddle, you know?

43:34Rich Eisen:Or is it first and Waddle, third and Sutton? I don't know. It's going to be really fascinating to see. Along with the running back room, R.J. Harvey, how many carries is he going to get with Dobbins and McLaughlin and the rest of that group? Third down. Third down. Can the Broncos defense hit 70 sacks? They had 68 last year. So close. Okay. Last team to have 70 sacks was the 2022 Eagles. it's only happened four times can the Broncos be the fifth they came close last year Jonathan Cooper starting the season on the on the commissioner's exempt list not going to help but I'm telling you man they're that freaking good Vance Joseph dialing it up can they get 70 sacks fourth down simple question but I think it's on everybody's minds and it speaks to the leap that he could potentially take.

44:33Rich Eisen:Can Bo Nix make, year three Bo Nix, make him an MVP finalist? Can we get there? Can we get the next step up? Can we get him throwing those deep balls? Can we get him taking care of the football? Can we get him just being dominant? Dominant. taking over a game and doing it with consistency, as we have seen him do on occasion. Can we get an MVP finalist campaign out of Bo Nix this year? It's a tall order. Yeah. But this is a Super Bowl-worthy team. This is a roster that can win a Super Bowl. This is a head coach that's won a Super Bowl. It's there. They can win their division. They can win this conference.

45:21Rich Eisen:They can win this league 100%. because of any team that could possibly, if they see the Rams as they will in week three, possibly keep your quarterback upright with Donald and Garrett coming at you. The Broncos arguably have the best offensive line in the league. I mentioned it in our number one. I mentioned it here. And that's my four downs on the Denver Broncos. Any thoughts on anything I missed here? Yeah, I like the wide receiver room. I like that one. Definitely, yeah, you know, a lot riding on Bo Nix. His health. I think he's healthy. I'm not concerned about his health. Okay. I don't think that's an issue.

46:02Rich Eisen:I really don't. Certainly if the ankle was one lurking, well, it lurked and it hit at the worst possible time and it's been fixed. Right. Arguably. Broncos have eight best AFC odds. That's nuts. That is crazy to me. Bo Nix. Give me the teams with seven better odds in the AFC. Okay. You want to guess? Sure. Obviously, there's the Bills. There's the Ravens. Yep, one and two. There's the Chiefs. The Chiefs, yeah, third. Are the Chargers even better than them? The Chargers. Bengals, Patriots, Texans. With all due respect to the seven teams there. That's nuts. How do you take a team that was... One second.

46:47Rich Eisen:One ankle snap away from having a much better chance at winning the AFC Championship game in their house. In a one seed that they earned. They arguably got better just because Nix is back healthy and Waddle's been added. You know, Sean Payton told us in London last year when we called that Jets-Broncos game. he told us that the guy you know harvey is really special and the one that's admittedly holding him back is sean payton right and maybe that that's been removed now that davis webb is calling place i don't know that kid's gonna be better i'm not arguing with you i don't get it fourth at worst i don't get what would they just think that nicks isn't the you know a good enough quarterback and and there's going to be regression to the regression i don't know So, Les Snead's joining us in hour three coming right up.

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Jaguars Head Coach Liam Coen joins Rich and discusses the acquisition of Quinn Ewers, expectations for Trevor Lawrence, what can we expect from Brian Thomas Jr. year 3, will we see Travis Hunter at WR this season, thoughts on the running back room. (2:14) 

Notre Dame Head Coach Marcus Freeman joins Rich and discusses quarterback CJ Carr and the Heisman hype surrounding him, on not getting into the playoffs last year and the expectations for this season, what he would change about college football, his former players Jeremiyah Love and Jadarian Price (20:20) 

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