Hour 2: Jaylen Brown Trade Reactions, Seth Rollins’ 4th of July Top 5, plus Max Bretos Talks World Cup

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0:46Brockman:No, just Duracell. Remember, goats only trust goats because they're built different. And Messi only trusts Duracell. This is the Rich Eisen Show. Hey, everybody. Can't get enough of the Rich Eisen Show? You're in luck. You can find us everywhere. Watch us weekdays on Disney Plus from noon to 3 Eastern. Miss the show? We've got a podcast so you can listen anytime. But here's the best part. Our YouTube channel. Subscribe at youtube.com slash Rich Eisen Show and you'll never miss a moment. Now, on with the show. Pump up the volume This is the Rich Eisen Show With guest host WWE superstar Seth Rollins God, I love that guy Live from the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles Earlier on the show Super Bowl champion quarterback Joe Theismann Coming up Apple TV MLS play-by-play announcer Max Pretos Comedian Brad Williams And now sitting in for Rich it's Seth Rollins oh yeah you know guys it gives me a nice feeling anytime that little I don't know is that a real voice that's a real voice it's a very nice voice a real voice saying sitting in for Rich and I'm like oh that's me Seth Rollins that's nice it feels good and we are here hour two had a good hour one Joe Theismann being held like a child by Andre the Giant probably the highlight speaking of not an ai that was a real photo yeah it was real you you could show your kids that and they wouldn't believe it they would not believe the funny thing is i've seen the old andre interviews where he talks about that and it's just like first of all the fact that andre the giant was a real person and he's like the myth is so great right now but we actually live we know that this dude actually roamed the earth if you haven't seen it look for it i'm sure It's on a streamer somewhere.

2:51The HBO documentary that they did about Andre the Giant. Fantastic. You'll enjoy every second. It might have been Bill Simmons. It was a Bill Simmons.

3:00Brockman:I just rewatched that like three weeks ago. It's so good. It's very well done. Got a question for you, Seth Rollins. Oh, okay. What you got, dog? Oh, it's WrestleMania, and your opponent is Andre the Giant. How are you going to go about that? Seven foot four, 500 pounds. How are you going to attack the eighth wonder of the world? You know, I have actually had a really great history of matches with big men. Oh, you have? Well, I love wrestling a big guy. I'm one of those guys who, when I watch wrestling, I don't want to see two guys who do the same thing. Yeah, sure. That's the beauty of pro wrestling.

3:36Styles make fights. Yeah, Styles makes fights. And it's the only sport, art form, whatever you want to call it, where you get this in the UFC or in MMA or in boxing. Weight classes. There's weight classes. You don't get this, man. You don't get to see Seth Rollins, who's 220-6-1 against Andre the Giant. So I loved wrestling guys like The Undertaker and Kane and The Big Show. And like one of my favorite matches that I've ever had is I wrestled the giant Omos in Puerto Rico in San Juan. And it was kind of it was it was a throwaway match. Like we didn't have there was no backstory to it. I remember it distinctly.

4:24I was actually sitting here in Los Angeles down the street. I am drinking coffee at Offset Coffee Roasters. And I get a call. I'm thinking I'm off for the next couple weeks because they're doing this Puerto Rico show. Bad Bunny is headlining against Damian Priest. I've got nothing. And I get this call, and it's Vince McMahon. And he says, whoa. This was years ago, obviously. I'd like you to work with Omos. And I said, what? Why? He's like, well, you know, the show, we need some star power. We've got Bunny on top. and Vince said no. You said this is the most listened to streamed. This is like Michael Jackson in his prime popularity having a wrestling match in Gary, Indiana where he grew up.

5:14That's what this is. Vince. He didn't get it. How is Vince in your phone? Vince McMahon. Okay. The boss. Vince McMahon is how he is in my phone. I'm privileged to actually you know he when he left the company he obviously had to get a new phone so he lost the corporate number so i feel like i was privileged to get access to the uh the other the new number but um yeah so i omas who nobody was thinking could have uh a good wrestling match at this point he was very young very green not a lot of experience and uh i was like this is a challenge let's go and i was so excited i think we had two weeks of monday night raw to kind of like build it.

5:58There was no real story to it. Went in there, tore the house down in San Juan with the giant Omos, who I love by the way. He's fantastic. He's working down in AAA now, I believe as well. If people don't know, Omos is legit 7-2, 7-3. Huge. Huge man. Does not know his own strength. One of those guys who's like, yeah, I'm strong, but no, no, no, no, sir. You could snap all my limbs in an instant if you wanted to. Guys like him, Big Show, if I'm out there with Andre the Giant, oh, it's easy, baby. I mean, that is a spectacle of a human. You just run around him, chop him down like a tree, and have a party.

6:37I would relish a chance to work with Andre. Super stomp. Yeah, stomp on Andre? You'd have to be coming off the cage. Yeah, I don't know. Something to take him down. That's a big boy. Andre's, my man needs like three feet for the stomp. I don't even, his head, man, the size of his head. Yeah, we are here. I am Seth Rollins. I'm not Rich Eisen, but we are chatting it up on Disney Plus and ESPN, Sirius XM, ESPN Radio, all of it. And, guys, we've got to talk about some basketball. We've got to talk about the NBA because free agency is wide open. Not just free agency, but there are some trades going on, and there is like, I don't know what to call it, like an intercast violence.

7:21There's some sort of, I mean, you guys, TJ, Brockman, And there was a big trade that went on. The Celtics, the 76ers, you guys take me through it. I need to know your feelings. Here it is on the screen. Take me through it. I mean, how are we feeling about this, guys? Where are we at? I feel great. Well, yeah, exactly. I feel great. It's like Feli has two friends. Chris is sad and TJ is happy.

7:46Man, it's terrible. It's awful. I this guy Jalen Brown has been so good to me as a Celtics fan for a decade he has won so many games and we've experienced so many highs and yeah there's been some disappointments in there most recently this past spring but we got to the mountaintop and there was really no reason to to to get down from the mountaintop and it just you know something that i'm sure we'll find out eventually in a hit piece by the local boston media because that's what they do um maybe we'll get some answers as to what really went on behind the scenes and why you know jaylen brown had to go but by all accounts from chris mannix and choms he did not ask for a trade this is something that the front office felt like they had to do and whether it was you know the analytics department tj i know you hate them they didn't they didn't think it would work out any longer or maybe maybe this is the ultimate sell high on a guy that just had his best you know statistical and on court season but um it's the end of the era for the jays and i am i'm very very sad and all i can say is tj Treat them right.

9:07Brockman:You know, for me, Seth, we have these documents that we have here on the show. No one's actually signed one. And that is if you want to give up your sports fandom for a particular team. So I was presented one with the Cowboys. Of course. Can't sign it. I, guys, legitimately, I was thinking I was done with the Sixers because the Sixers, since I've been a kid, to have just this history of making horrendous and horrible basketball decisions. I'm talking back when they traded Wilt Chamberlain. I wasn't around for that, but I know it happened. To trading Moses Malone, to not drafting Brad Doherty, to passing up on Paul Pierce, to, you know, everything they do seems to be the wrong move.

9:50Brockman:And it was almost as a fan, I was kind of tired of it. This has kind of rejuvenated my fandom. I thought I was out. They pulled me back in. getting Jalen Brown right now in the prime of his career to pair with Tyrese Maxey, to pair with a young edge comb. Look, Joel Embiid, we could just put him on an exercise bike till April. There you go. Maybe play him once every four weeks. Just be like, hey, big fella, sit there, get healthy. We'll pop you out every eight to ten games just so you don't have any rust. Jalen Brown is a NBA Finals MVP. Dog. Okay, he is one of the best players in the world. So they put him on this Sixers team with those other guys.

10:30Brockman:And now we've got to see how the rest of the team stacks up. They're going to bring other people in, obviously. But the New York Knicks have made it as such that any team that hasn't won in a while has to sit there and think, why not us? And that's not knocking the Knicks, but 53 years has been. So yeah, the Knicks could do it. Why can't we do it? So where are we at now for expectations then going into the season in the fall? You were back in, TJ. Are you like championship or bust back in? Look, the fan in me wants to sit here and go, yeah, this is it, obviously. But you've got to be professional here behind this mic and be realistic.

11:09Brockman:You don't have to. Why? Why do you have to beat? Why? I know. I think the Bears are going to win the Super Bowl. Well, as you should. I think Caleb Williams is going to be the MVP. Why? Why do you have to be professional? I believe, here's what I believe is going to happen. Can I just set up a scenario? Yes. LeBron James comes to Philadelphia. Wait a minute now. That is a different conversation. You and everybody else. Look, I'm just saying LeBron, the money's no factor, right? He's going to play for less money than others. He said he would take less. Yeah. LeBron James comes to Philadelphia. It's out there.

11:37Brockman:Whoa. And I feel like that could be enough to get the Sixers over. Someone, I think Big Perk, just said that the Celtics assured that the Sixers Sixers would be in the NBA Finals next season. I'm not ready to go that far. Come on. But I can say I am so looking forward to this season just to see what can happen. And I'm going to renew NBA League Pass without a doubt. Okay, boy. All right, so they got your money. They got your money. All right, Brockman. Yeah, from the Boston perspective, look, I mean, this hit me kind of like a ton of bricks. I was on the golf course when I found out yesterday.

12:09Oh, pain. Just like Austin Reeves. Yeah, exactly. I had the same reaction as to Austin Reeves. I passed out. but for different reasons you you weren't getting a hundred plus million i was not getting a hundred million i was having my heart ripped out uh i i can only think look it's it's the in brad we trust situation right brad stevens is one of the best uh front office guys in the league i have to think this is just the first move in a series of moves right you acquire two first round picks and two to Paul George. I can only hope, and I can only, I guess I can't assume, I didn't assume that we'd trade him to our biggest rival.

12:48That this is part of a package that we're going to go get somebody else. So it's not just... Who is out there to be got? You know, the name that Trey Murphy is the name, TJ, that keeps getting thrown about. The conspiracy brain in me says, why hasn't the Giannis trade been officially announced yet? Can we come over the top? and now offer four first-round picks, two seconds. Paul George, Sam Hauser, who else? Wow. That would be a heck of a turn right there. You know, I know people are saying, well, it can't be done until July 6th. That's something else. Okay, great. Then we still have four more days to have a better deal than what Miami, you know, they agreed to.

13:29Yeah. I don't know. I'm just throwing that out there. But my hope is that it's part of a better move. I look at the odds, TJ. It's not a thing that you guys are into. It's something that I'm into. Boston still has the fourth best championship odds. They have much better odds than Philadelphia and Toronto and Denver and Detroit. They have the fourth best odds to win the title next year. Why is that? Okay. They know something we don't know. Or they're just still confident in the roster that Boston has. Jason Tatum, who has proven time and time again to be a top five player in the NBA, fully healthy coming back after the injury, the second season removed, and then all the pieces around it.

14:08you know you're seeing articles today saying that the celtics i can't even say it with a straight face go ahead think that peyton pritchard could have a brunson like come up wow okay first off all right wow six man of the year had a great season 18 points a game this year look bro i do

14:25Brockman:know this if there's a buzzer beater to be made richard pritchard is gonna hit it he's gonna make it i know it's peyton richard it's an inside joke folks he's got it seth if if there's a buzzer beater he is gonna stroke it maybe i'm just like smoking the copium today and i'm doing whatever i can to kind of not freak out and and like crash out not gonna do over this yeah what everyone thinks i'm gonna do yeah yeah but uh i i gotta i gotta try to keep the glass half full when when maybe maybe i shouldn't but i'm definitely bummed like i said before just won a lot of games and so much joy as a fan they've proven that they can be the best in the league um as a duo and and now they're no more yeah that's painful is this painful is this equivalent to like the bowls trading scotty pippen during the jordan years is that where we're at if you're a celtics fan like is is he that necessary for the success of the franchise i don't know like i guess i guess the analytics people would have you think no yeah the stats that brockman was reading this morning to me tells me that they don't believe that's true he did read some quite jar you know and and have these available and give yeah yeah i saw them i i saw them this morning you know that was the that was the quote that bobby marks had you know and he took a lot of heat for that but he was just saying what he's hearing from analytics people and it's you know over the last three seasons the celtics are 36 and 6 when jaylen brown does not play wow 96 and 6 90 and 36 all time with him you didn't need out of the i know but like you didn't need him he's again i'm not saying we should have gotten rid of him i do not i do not believe that but brown finishes celtic's career with a negative on court off court differential breaking up i mean it's crazy right because it just seems crazy to break these guys up when they've had so much success and proven that they can be one a one b whatever you want they're ones they're both ones you know it's it's crazy it's crazy to break up brown and tatum it's almost as crazy as having a group that had i don't know rollins and reigns and breaking them up at the high school.

16:27Brockman:It's just, it's crazy to think. It's crazy to think that you would have these great performers that work so together. All the famers. And then a piece of steel chair comes in and just destroys it all. Look, sometimes executive decisions need to be made and people don't understand what goes into these. So maybe I'm with you here. TJ ruined it for me. I was on TJ's side. I was trying to hype up Jalen Brown here. and now I think I'm over. I get it. I get it. This is an executive decision. You know what? I'm thinking about this too. I'm thinking about this as well. The draft pick thing, it has some legs to it because in the NFL when there's a trade and there's draft picks, that draft capital is huge.

17:10But in the NBA, it's not the same. Not the same. I mean, look, with Kel Bridges, it's the famous one, five first rounders, whatever. We just saw the Lakers give up less. A lot. But to get Walker Kessler, it's like they gave up more for Walker Kessler than they did for Luka. So in the NBA, the draft picks and the trades, one and two are not the same.

17:31Brockman:And plus, one of those draft picks right now is currently in eighth grade. There you go. So that's true, too. You don't know. That stuff's going to get moving around. And one of the unprotecteds that the Celtics got, Jalen Brown's going to be, what, 35? And Embiid's going to be 37? Who knows if they're even on the team then. That could be any pick. But look, I think it's part of a bigger move. At least that's what I'm telling myself to sleep at night. So I need to jump back in over here to this LeBron conspiracy theory, TJ. What conspiracy? I'm not conspiring. Where are we thinking? Because he what what makes you think he's going to end up in Philadelphia?

18:11Hope. OK, just hope.

18:13Brockman:That's it. You know, because look, he's going to go somewhere. He is. So why not come to us? You know, why not? You know, now, by the way, if LeBron gets four rings with four different teams, if you are of the belief that he's the greatest, then your argument just becomes stronger than, you know, Omos at this point. So he just keeps joining super teams. Is that what you mean? I don't know if it's joining super teams, but he's he's brought championships everywhere he goes. And I mean, LeBron's if he's not the greatest, he's the second greatest. I'm a Jordan guy, so I'm always going to think Jordan's number one unless somebody comes out and is more dominant.

18:49LeBron just wasn't as dominant of a winner as Jordan was once Jordan hit his stride. But you look at the length of the career. Yeah, the longevity. There's no argument here. He's played twice as long. I think there's just two different kind of – they're playing the same game, but it's different eras. And I don't know. I'm a Jordan guy.

19:08Brockman:I've spent thousands of dollars on Jordans. I own one pair of LeBrons, and I got them for free. he's one two or one a one b for sure we want to slice it for sure but he's not going to go to and he's got no he's going to go somewhere where he's either he has no ties to philadelphia why would he go there he's got to have an attachment to make me happy or he's going to go play you know i bet that's on his watch why would it be but if you if you were him seth where would you go yeah i'm going to go play with my friends golden state golden state that i mean he's always wanted to play with Steph. He's made that known.

19:40He's going to go. It's got to be somebody that he thinks can contend for a championship and somewhere where he's going to have fun. And I think Golden State is kind of kind of fits both of those sort of things for him. So that would be the front runner to me. I would not be surprised if he ends up somewhere else. But to me, that's the that's the front runner. He's always made it very clear that he would love to play with Steph. And, you know, this is it for him. He's done here. If it's not one year, two years, he's very, very close to the end.

20:11Brockman:I know I said I wanted to go to Philly, obviously as a Philly fan, but let's be honest. Once you spent a February in California, going back east and spending a February is not that appealing. Not the same. Yeah, yeah. That's fair. Coming up, we got a good show. We're going to have Max Bredos in here to talk some more World Cup. He was at the game yesterday in Santa Clara. So we're going to get his perspective on it. Maybe he'll know where LeBron's going to. We'll see.

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22:22Okay. But for the U.S., which has a lot of players from Major League Soccer, there's a couple guys who start for the U.S. team that play in Major League Soccer. MLS is trying to connect to it so they can grow. We're developing young players from all over the states. We have some players on the Mexican national team. There's a kid from Alaska who's playing for the Mexican national team. There's a kid from the Chicago suburbs who plays for Mexico. They came through MLS. So MLS is trying to build that, and the success for the U.S. is connected to that. It's connected to everything that's American in the sport.

22:51So it's really important. But if they lost that game, you kind of wipe away all the goodwill. Yeah, because this tournament goes on for another two and a half weeks. And if they're not there, you become forgotten. You start talking about France and whoever's left and Brazil. So if them extending this is so important for this for this and to get to this, they extend another five days. Hopefully it goes even further. But I think if by winning this game, the success can parallel with the World Cup. and usually when I talk to people about the World Cup it's always like hey the World Cup's on and they go no I know I'm watching it because the games are on prime time it's unbelievable so it's it's a it's a definite definite tentpole moment first win in the knockout stage for the U.S.

23:35in like 24 years or something like that 2002 so yeah we are here Rich Eisen show Maximiliano Casanova great toast. The way you say it, I would have said yes. Maybe Casanova can be your name. I wasn't expecting to hear that. And Mad Max, you know, there's a lot of Mad Maxes out there, but Casanova I like, so we're here. ESPN Radio, Sirius XM, obviously ESPN app, Disney Plus, and Max was at the game last night, and we're talking about how this win has had a huge impact and could have a huge impact on the growth of the sport of football, soccer in America. Would you prefer to call it football or soccer?

24:21No, soccer for me. Okay, just checking. I grew up calling it soccer. It's hard for, I mean, football for me is American football. That's just, I can't, I can't. And I know if I'm insulting anybody internationally, I apologize. But this is an interesting conversation because we've got to respect the American sports here. I think soccer, when we do it, we gatekeep and we always say, hey, you've got to understand this to do it. But we have to be respectful of football and they have that name. And I think that's a good way to get new fans as well. We got it. The American sports fan has football and baseball, basketball.

24:51They've had it for generations. We just want to have a little side of soccer there. If they have a little room in their belly. It also doesn't matter what we call it. It really doesn't. It's just a game. It's a name. We call it a thing. It's beautiful. It's awesome. It's an incredible sport. These athletes are unbelievable. And the competition for this World Cup has been fantastic. Fantastic. You mentioned the impact at the win and the fact that the U.S. national team, them staying in helps the growth of the sport. How far do you think they can go? This next game will be on Monday, July 6th against Belgium in Seattle, which has proven to be a great home field advantage.

25:26They've really they've locked into that. They've been based on the West Coast. They were in Irvine. They had a game, two games in L.A., game in Santa Clara and now a second game in Seattle, potentially another game in L.A. So they've really locked into this corridor and they're feeding off the fandom. I mean, I can't get country roads out of my head because they're singing it. But all these things that are coming, the creature comforts they are enjoying, even though a lot of these players, most of these players are based in Europe. They're here. They know it. Their family, their friends are close by.