In short
This Hour 2 episode of The Rich Eisen Show mixes NFL offseason talk with a Knicks playoff conversation. Topic: NFL QB situations and roster/contract implications, plus Rich’s “Top 5” New York sports moments and Larry David’s Knicks-Spurs Game 4 reaction.
Guests
Tom Pelissero (NFL Network/NFL Media Group insider; covers league news) and Larry David (actor/comedian; Knicks fan; discusses Game 4).
Key claims
Pelissero says Brendan Sorsby’s NFL supplemental draft deadline is June 22; an appeal is scheduled after the college season, so it likely won’t change eligibility timing. He also argues Sorsby’s punishment has already been “dole[d] out” via lost ad revenue, legal fees, and lasting stigma, and that teams expect minimal impact on his 2027 draft stock. Pelissero reports Vikings QB reps are split 50-50 in spring, with Kevin O’Connell aiming for fairness and later first-team rhythm.
Notable examples
Pelissero cites Kyler Murray and J.J. McCarthy completing passes to Justin Jefferson during minicamp; he also discusses Deshaun Watson’s long layoff and Browns’ QB uncertainty. Larry David highlights OG Anunobi’s putback, the charged Garden atmosphere, and Wembanyama’s size/impact.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOTom Pelissero Joins the Show
0:30 to 1:31
Rich welcomes NFL insider Tom Pelissero to discuss the NFL offseason.
“Can't get enough of the Rich Eisen Show?”
NFL Offseason Updates
1:31 to 4:28
Discussion about NFL minicamps, free agents, and the situation surrounding Brendan Soresby.
“All right, hour number two of the Rich Eisen Show is on the air.”
Brendan Soresby's NFL Future
4:28 to 7:55
Exploration of Brendan Soresby's potential eligibility for the NFL draft and related impacts.
“We've heard a few comments here and there.”
Quarterback Battles in Minnesota
7:55 to 11:43
Tom shares insights on the quarterback competition for the Minnesota Vikings between Kyler Murray and J.J. McCarthy.
“the latest comments from the two quarterbacks vying for the opportunity to start week one for the Minnesota Vikings.”
Deshaun Watson's Future in Cleveland
11:43 to 14:00
Discussion regarding Deshaun Watson's status as the quarterback for the Cleveland Browns.
“I mean, so you said that you're you think the coaches think they know which direction it's going.”
Deshaun Watson's Future with the Browns
14:00 to 18:10
Analysis of the Browns' QB situation and Deshaun Watson's performance history.
“And then Andrew Berry went on the radio and was asked if Deshaun Watson is the quarterback of the future.”
Teasing a Surprise Guest
18:11 to 18:22
The host hints at an exciting surprise coming up after the break.
“We got to take a quick break because it does appear we've got a great surprise on the other side.”
Larry David on Knicks Victory
19:23 to 23:16
Larry discusses the emotional experience of the Knicks' recent victory.
“Larry David is here, fresh off of that Game 4 victory for the New York Knicks.”
Wembenyama's Presence and Influence
23:17 to 25:41
Larry shares his thoughts on Wembenyama and the dynamics he brings to the game.
“At any point in time, did you think of tripping Wemby, putting your feet up?”
Larry's Perspective on Game Stress
25:42 to 28:00
Larry reflects on the stress of watching games and the effect on his health.
“What is it like to see Wembenyama in person?”
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Larry David's Game Six Dilemma
28:00 to 29:00
Larry David expresses his anxiety and reluctance about watching game six.
“Game five, I'll be able to watch because, okay, well, we still got a six and seven.”
Larry's New Project: 'Life Larry and the Pursuit of Unhappiness'
29:00 to 30:28
Larry discusses his new HBO project that blends history with humor.
“Everything else seemed a little, you know, what else should there be?”
Humor in Sports: Larry David's Take
30:28 to 31:26
Larry shares a humorous take on a social media post about the Spurs.
“yeah it's coming to hb and everyone should definitely watch it it is outstanding coming up uh life larry in the pursuit of unhappiness debuts june 26 9 p.m eastern on hbo available on hbo max One last thing.”
Wrapping Up with Larry David
31:26 to 32:57
Rich Eisen and Larry discuss upcoming games and wrap up their interview.
“But do we are we watching it live on Saturday or are we assuming Saturday?”
Reflecting on the Chat with Larry David
35:58 to 36:44
Rich Eisen and the crew reflect on their enjoyable conversation with Larry.
“The stars at the FIFA World Cup, Hyundai already has its eyes on the next generation of talent.”
Caller Discussion on Knicks' Moments
36:44 to 38:15
A caller shares their thoughts on memorable Knicks moments in recent history.
“It's starting to feel a little bit more real, but it still doesn't feel all that real.”
Rich's Top 5 New York Sports Moments
38:15 to 41:06
Rich Eisen presents his top five moments in New York sports history.
“Alright, the OG Ananobi putback for the Knicks to complete the biggest comeback in the history of the NBA Finals.”
In-Depth on Rich's Top Sports Memories
41:06 to 42:01
Rich elaborates on his top sports memories including Yankees and Rangers.
“There's a lot of similarities going down right now between the Rangers' run in 94 breaking the curse and what the Knicks are doing right now.”
Rich's Top Sports Moments
42:01 to 45:34
Rich recounts his top moments in sports history, highlighting key games and personal experiences.
“not knowing what was going down in this extra inning game of this World Series game.”
Upcoming Guest: Greg Berhalter
45:47 to 46:00
Rich teases the upcoming appearance of former U.S. men's national team coach Greg Berhalter.
“men's national team coach, Greg Berhalter, stopping by before tonight's World Cup debut of the current iteration involving his son of the U.S.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00The Stanley Cup Final on ABC is more than a quest for the cup. It's 134 years of putting it all on the line and the heaviest 35 pounds ever lifted. It's broken curses and broken hearts. But for those chasing it, it's everything. The only question is, who will take it? You just have to watch the Stanley Cup Final presented by GEICO on ABC and the ESPN app. This is the Rich Eisen Show.
0:32Rich Eisen:Hey, everybody. Can't get enough of the Rich Eisen Show? You're in luck. You can find us everywhere. Watch us weekdays on Disney Plus from noon to 3 Eastern. Miss the show? We've got a podcast so you can listen anytime. But here's the best part. Our YouTube channel. Subscribe at youtube.com slash richeisenshow and you'll never miss a moment. Now, on with the show. And now, this is the Rich Eisen Show. What do you got, Mike Brown? The series isn't over. Live from the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles. I'll tell you. Nobody wanted that job. And it's just like, I'll take it. Earlier on the show, ESPN NBA analyst Tim Legler.
1:17Coming up, NFL Network insider Tom Pelissero. Former U.S. Men's National Team head coach Greg Berhalter. And now, it's Rich Eisen.
1:31Rich Eisen:All right, hour number two of the Rich Eisen Show is on the air. 844-204-RICH is the number to dial. We'll take your phone calls this hour when we can, and we should very shortly. But let's get right to them. Top of hour number two, my buddy from the NFL Network, NFL Media Group, Tom Pellicero, is back on the program. How are you, Tommy P? What's going on?
1:50Tom Pelissero:Doing great, Rich. What's up to my boys in the studio? Tommy P, what's up, baby?
1:54Rich Eisen:Let's go. Is that it? Do you want to get in on it, too? You can say hi. I just did. I mean, you can be like whooping and hollering. Oh. I guess we can't have her. Oh. Okay. You know what I mean? All right. Hi, Tom.
2:11Rich Eisen:What's ringing your phone up these days? What's going on? What do we know? What do we need to know? What's happening?
2:17Tom Pelissero:I mean, we're into that period of the calendar where half the league is starting to trickle out on vacation. There's a few loose ends here and there. But, you know, if there's one thing that you know about the NFL, it's the moment those minicamps and the moment the offseason programs and this is the only break that people really get in the calendar. Coaches, front office people, you know, a week or so after the Fourth of July, they'll be they'll be right back in the office. Certainly, you've still got some high profile free agents that are sitting out there. You have various levels of mysteries surrounding the Brandon Ayukes of the world and exactly what will happen there.
2:56Tom Pelissero:Is there any reality to an Aaron Donald comeback? And then certainly, I mean, the one that's sort of the talk of sports at large right now is still the Brendan Soresby situation, even at a time that it appears that it will not end up with him entering the NFL supplemental draft, which would be a fascinating test case of sorts in its own right. It is still a really big deal when you're talking about one of the best and highest profile prospects who now appears headed to being in the 2027 draft.
3:24Rich Eisen:Well, we had Jay Billis on the other day, Tom, and he's our expert at the cross-section of NCAA and law. And he thinks this gets overturned on appeal and that everybody needs to just take a breath in the collegiate sports world that this is the end of the NCAA and the dawn of a new lawless era. He thinks that this is going to get overturned on appeal. And I'm wondering if there's, you know, some teams that are hoping it does because they want Sorsby in a supplemental draft. And then there's some people maybe at 345 Park are like, if Jeffrey Kessler's all over this thing, let him be on the NCAA, not the NFL.
4:06Rich Eisen:Like, forget that. What are you hearing about all of this with Sorsby?
4:12Tom Pelissero:The first thing I would say is the deadline to apply for the NFL supplemental draft is June 22nd. So that is 10 days away. The appeal is currently scheduled to be heard after the college football season. And so unless you are able to expedite this in the next 10 days, it's simply not going to have any impact on whether or not Brendan Soresby is eligible and able to be taken by an NFL team. We've heard a few comments here and there. I know that Todd Monken came out publicly and essentially said, based on what Brendan Soresby has been attached to, it's not an avenue that they would go down if he were to be in the supplemental draft.
4:52Tom Pelissero:But I would say the prevailing feeling among all the people that I have talked to is that if he were in the supplemental draft right now, if that were held today, Soresby would be a very high, if not a first round pick because the talent is there, because it would free up other opportunities for what you can do with your picks in 2027, where it's supposed to be on paper right now, a very talented draft and a very talented quarterback draft. If you had the opportunity to bring a player in, effectively give him probably a red shirt year and train him to be ready to roll in 2027, there's just there's not a lot of value propositions out there like that.
5:33Tom Pelissero:Obviously, you know, there's a lot to unpack in terms of going through all the history. A lot of that now is documented because of the lawsuit, because of the contentiousness with the NCAA in terms of exactly the types of bets that he was placing when he was placing them. I would say to the extent that I've continued to hear, well, how can he not face punishment beyond the two games that his lawyers proposed at the NCAA level? How could the NFL let him play? And perhaps there's able to be a negotiated settlement that could be worked out with the NFL where he has to sit for a period of time. The NCAA had their opportunity to work out a negotiated settlement and sit Brendan Sorsby for a period of time.
6:16Tom Pelissero:They decided instead that they would go to court. And over and over in court, the NCAA has lost in these cases. So that initial order from the judge in Texas, all that is, is maintaining the status quo. I know people have fixated on the language of he would suffer injury and things like that. That's the threshold. That's the bar for getting one of these temporary restraining orders that preserves the status quo, which, again, pending an expedited appeal would preserve the status quo through this entire season. But I would argue, Rich, the punishment in many ways has already been doled out to Brendan Soresby.
6:54Tom Pelissero:He has lost millions of dollars in ad revenue for various deals that he would have had. He has spent millions of dollars in legal fees. He has this attached to him for the rest of his life. And we don't know how much of it all weighed on his shoulders this season playing college football. And you know how it is, chants from opponents, things he sees on social media. How much will all that weigh on him? Will he ever be able to be the same player again? That's not to excuse the behavior and the behavior that turned into an addiction and that landed him in this spot. But this idea that Brendan Soresby is getting off scot-free, it's simply untethered to the facts.
7:35Tom Pelissero:In my opinion, the NFL, whenever he comes out, most likely now in the 2027 draft, will be peeling back all the layers of this. But based on the teams that I've talked to and based on the known information, I do not anticipate if he plays like Brendan Sorsby this season, that it's going to have much, if any, of an impact on where he's taken in 2027.
7:54Rich Eisen:Tom Pellicero here on the Rich Eisen Show. Right there in Minnesota, sir. the latest comments from the two quarterbacks vying for the opportunity to start week one for the Minnesota Vikings. And Kyler Murray asked about the challenges that he's facing in this new world for him. Basically said, I'm paraphrasing here, I'm not used to getting half the reps or not all of the reps and the answer that J.J. McCarthy gave was straight down the middle and I'm sure whatever he was talking about the classroom and being on one side of the classroom and the blowback he got from that put him straight down the middle is this a split rep are they is it 50
8:42Tom Pelissero:50 that's going down right now for the Vikings I was at mini camp practice the first day on Tuesday Rich. And just based on that, that is one day, but it dovetails with what I've been told has happened the entire spring, which is they are splitting this 50-50. And we saw that day, Kyler Murray and JJ McCarthy complete passes to Justin Jefferson. I was watching, I wasn't counting every single rep because I'm talking to people and doing other things, but you looked up and every time I would look up, want to be with the ones, then what ones with the twos, want to be first in the order, want to be last in the order.
9:14Tom Pelissero:That has been deliberate by Kevin O 'Connell because he wants this to be fair all the way through the entire process. I've said it on this show and elsewhere. I think that at this stage, coming out of minicamp, the coaches probably have a pretty good idea what direction they think this is going to go. And I don't anticipate it takes all three preseason games for them to arrive at that conclusion. They want to be able at some point to transition, if not 100 to 0, then certainly give the majority of those first team reps to one of the players to be able to build the rhythm and timing and tempo that you need for a functional NFL passing offense.
9:50Tom Pelissero:With regard to Kyler Murray, and I know that those remarks, certain parts of him were quoted, the broader point that he was making was, yeah, it is unusual when you're used to being the starting quarterback. But also remember, he's learning a totally different offense. He's being coached a different way. When he came into the NFL, he was playing for Cliff Kingsbury, whose offense he already knew. It was the air raid. That's what Kyler had played on. It played him throughout his college career. Then, you know, Drew Petsing comes in and that staff. Kyler wasn't even healthy in that first training camp.
10:21Tom Pelissero:And so it went from him not getting any reps in the first year to him back to getting 100 percent of the reps. But he had essentially half a season or an entire season to kind of learn and grow in the system before he's being put out there and executed. I would say this, Rich. I didn't see Kyler scramble at all, which isn't unusual. You know, you're talking about they're not quite full speed, 11 on 11 and 7 on 7 stuff. That's not designed for the quarterback run game. J.J. McCarthy is a really good athlete. He can also run. But Kyler's elusiveness has always been one of his elite traits in training camp, in joint practices, in the preseason, if it goes that far.
10:57Tom Pelissero:Those things start to evolve. I know that the broad feeling going through this process has been, well, it's just going to be Kyler Murray because he's there. But Kevin O 'Connell and that coaching staff wanted to go in with an open mind because this is not just about 2026. And yes, they have high standards, high expectations for 2026. But it's also about trying to put together the puzzle pieces on something that the Vikings haven't solved probably since Dante Culpepper, which is who can actually be the long term solution at the quarterback position. J.J. McCarthy's entering year three. Kyler Murray's on a one year contract with a no tag clause where he controls his own feature in 2027.
11:34Tom Pelissero:They're trying to figure this out. And odds are, Rich, frankly, unless they're lighting it up and running the table during the season, there's a decent chance we'll see both these guys play at some point.
11:42Rich Eisen:How about that? I mean, so you said that you're you think the coaches think they know which direction it's going. You want to take your best guess or you have any information where you think they think that it's going right now?
11:54Tom Pelissero:I would tell you, Rich, the Vikings staff, the people who are in the know on that decision, have been very careful not to any let anything slip in that regard. I would certainly say if I had to guess, I would guess it is Kyler Murray because you have seen J.J. McCarthy and he does look good mechanically. Right now, I'll say that to my semi-trained eye. He looks a little bit tighter, but J.J. was pretty good in clean pockets last year, even throwing the football down the field. It's when things get messy in front of you, which doesn't really happen in OTAs and minicamp, that things sometimes would break down for him.
12:29Tom Pelissero:I would say it is more likely to be Kyler. But let's see. You know, they say that they're keeping an open mind, at least in the training camp here. That first week, 10 days of the training camp process prior to that first preseason game and who gets the start in the first preseason game will probably tell you exactly what you need to know. If I had to lean right now, it's Kyler. But the other thing I would say to Rich, JJ has done everything right other than one of 10 quotes in that press conference a couple of weeks ago. So he's done everything right through this offseason, from everything I've been told in terms of his attitude, his approach, how he's maximizing the reps.
13:04Tom Pelissero:There was some story that took off locally here about, you know, J.J. left the practice field briskly after the OTA last week ran off the field. It was because practice ran long and he had a tee time with his offensive lineman. Would you want him doing anything else but golfing with the offensive lineman when he's got the opportunity to? He's still proceeding like he's the guy. Justin Jefferson said he's going to work out with both players in the offseason. Again, I think the coaches know which direction this is probably going to go, but they're not willing to say it's 100 % decided just yet.
13:32Rich Eisen:Tom Pelissero here on the Rich Eisen Show. Meanwhile, in Cleveland, man, Todd Monken is a fun soundbite. He is a fun soundbite. I'm beginning to enjoy him. He's got a little bit of the Parcells red ass in him, where he's also brutally honest and straightforward. and him being asked now to name a number one or when he's thinking of naming a number one has been comical. And then Andrew Berry went on the radio and was asked if Deshaun Watson is the quarterback of the future. Here's his answer. Yeah, I think everything's on the table. I think it would be silly to go into a season and say, hey, something absolutely can or cannot happen.
14:17Rich Eisen:And I think particularly at the quarterback position, right, Like we've seen it with guys, whether it's Sam Darnold or Daniel Jones or Geno Smith or even Baker after he left us in Carolina. And so I think you have to be open-minded and flexible. But yeah, I wouldn't rule out anything. We're looking for guys who can perform and who can lead. What's going on there, Tom? What do you think?
14:43Tom Pelissero:Not much in the NFL shocks me, Rich. But I would say it would be one of the more shocking developments in the past decade if Deshaun Watson not just starts in 2026, which would not really be a surprise. But if then that he parlays that into being the franchise quarterback, being re-signed in 2027 and getting another deal in Cleveland. Deshaun Watson, who is a very good player, of course, in the early stages of his career, Pro Bowl caliber, the Texans paid him. He has played, and you guys can double check the number, but it's like 21 games over the last five seasons combined. He has barely played football because of suspension, because of a de facto suspension his last year in Houston, and because of a series of injuries, including one that sidelined him, multiple Achilles tears for all of the 2025 season.
15:33Tom Pelissero:That's a long layoff. There's not a lot of precedent for a guy missing one season, much less the better part of five seasons, and coming back and performing at a high level. Having said that, again, Deshaun Watson has shown he can be a quality quarterback in the NFL. The last game that he played prior to the injury he had in 2023 against the Ravens, where his shoulder was split in half, was probably the best game that he had played since his Houston day. So there may well still be something in there. The idea, again, of the Browns then doubling down and re-signing him when they're finally set to get his cash, if not his cap, because they've got tens of millions of dollars more that they have to count into the future in terms of Deshaun Watson's salary cap number.
16:14Tom Pelissero:That would be startling. If you did re-sign him, it would push some of those cap hits down the line based on how his contract is structured. But here's really where the Browns sit as they head into the 2026 season. They have a new head coach in Todd Monken. They're basically in year two of a five-year organizational reset that was accelerated again by the trade. of Miles Garrett. They've got a ton of draft picks in the next few drafts. They've got two first-rounders in 2027, and they don't know who the quarterback is going to be. Deshaun Watson's contract is up after this season. Shadour Sanders, who showed some growth during his time as the starter last year, but still has a long way to go.
16:56Tom Pelissero:He's entering year two. Dylan Gabriel just had someone yank his jersey out of his locker. No offense to Dylan Gabriel, but that's not a great sign of his opportunity to still get a chance to compete here. But with all those assets and what is supposed to be a very good 2027 quarterback class, it would be the natural progression of this organizational reset for Cleveland to say, OK, we didn't get it right on Deshaun Watson, the guy that our owner said was a big swing and a miss. And I was saying, hey, I still got a chance to be a home run here. We're going to go and get the guy that we haven't got at this point.
17:27Tom Pelissero:You have to give Andrew Barry credit for the 2025 draft. They got really good players on both sides of the football. I thought that the value that they got in the Miles Garrett trade was really strong. Gave a quality player like Jared Verse plus those high picks in the next three drafts. They're still a quarterback away from really knowing what they're going to be into the future. And so this year, in my mind, is an opportunity for Todd Monken coming in, who does have a strong track record with quarterbacks of, let's see these different guys. Let's play everybody. Let's give everybody an opportunity, not just in camp, But as we get into the regular season, let's figure out, is there something here worth harnessing and trying to carry into the future?
18:04Tom Pelissero:If not, we are clearing the decks and we're starting over in 2020.
18:07Rich Eisen:So have a great weekend, Tom. Thanks for the time, brother. You be well. There goes Tommy P, Tom Pellis. We got to take a quick break because it does appear we've got a great surprise on the other side. I wouldn't go anywhere. If you're listening or you're watching the Rich Eisen show, that's next. That's called a breadcrumb dropped. This is the Rich Eisen show. 844-204-RICH number to dial.
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19:09Rich Eisen:And we're still doing it every day. Because the future isn't some far-off concept. It's already here. Next starts now. Hyundai, an official partner of FIFA. The Rich Eisen Show Podcast. Larry David is here, fresh off of that Game 4 victory for the New York Knicks. Greatest New York sports moment ever. Larry, where do you rank it? Where are we ranking this right now?
19:38For me, I'm ranking it one. Really? Yeah. Yeah. You know, there have been some other great ones, but yeah, that's one for me. I'll put Bucky Dent Oh, good one
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19:55Rich Eisen:1978 Game 163 against the Red Sox Yeah, that one And let's not forget Aaron Boone That's a good one Off the knuckleballer Yeah, off of Wakefield Yeah, that one, that was great Um Matto Matto, Matto That's another one, a Rangers and the 94. Yeah. Okay. I like that. And Tyreek, the helmet. The helmet catch. Yeah. No Jets on that top five, huh? No Jets moments. I wonder why.
20:38Rich Eisen:But what was it like in the arena that night? Walk me through the emotions you were going through that night, LD. You know, I'm a half-empty guy. That glass just never gets filled, no matter what I do. So no matter what it is, I'm thinking that I'm here just from the very fact that I'm there. Why are they going to make me go home happy? So that, you know, that's my thinking. It'll be a miracle if I can go home happy. But the building itself, it was so charged. It was filled, you know, an hour before. You never see that. There's usually empty seats when the game starts. And it was, you know, you couldn't breathe, really.
21:42It was just like every second, every play was life and death.
21:49Rich Eisen:Yeah, and then look at your reaction here. When that Ananobi tip was right in front of you. That was right in front of me, yeah. That was right in front of me. I couldn't believe that he took the shot from 30 feet. Yeah, no. Which kind of surprised me. It was a long shot, and they only had a win by – They were only down one point. They only needed a basket, but yeah, I'll take it. What was amazing to me was when I saw the replay of the inbounds pass, they had a second and a half left.
22:29That Castle, it was wide open under the basket. That if Towns didn't tip that ball, we would have lost the game.
22:36Rich Eisen:The crazy thing is, Larry, that the clock should have started the minute Cat tipped the ball. And had Castle corralled it and not been blocked by Hart and put the basket in, they would have gone to replay and probably waved off the Spurs winning basket. Wow. Could you imagine if that's the way the game ended? Oh, my God. Yeah, that would have been too much. You know, but instead it just sparked a massive celebration and it looked like nobody wanted to leave after the game. Right. That's the way it looked like to me. Yeah. Yeah. People were just so stunned. They couldn't, they couldn't move. They were just milling about.
23:18Yeah. Right. And you would. And I was a Miller. Yeah.
23:22Rich Eisen:I was a Miller. Yeah. At any point in time, did you think of tripping Wemby, putting your feet up? Did you think that was the only way that you could have stopped him in the first half? I'm very foot conscious now. Very foot conscious. Because you were right there. Your seats are right next to the Spurs bench. Yeah. You know, the Spurs have an assistant coach. I guess it's okay for Mitch Johnson to stand up the whole time. Okay.
23:53But a lot of times you're standing right in front of me and I'm, you know, I'm going, okay, come on, Mitch. But they have an assistant coach.
24:03Rich Eisen:Yeah. And he's also going back and forth. And, you know, I'm starting to yell at him. I'm going, hey, man, come on. Come on. Give us a break here. So are you saying he's not highly ranked enough to block your view? Exactly. The coach, you can accept blocking views. Even then, I think it's rude. I think the coach should have a little consideration for people watching the game. You can't see anything. But okay, he's the coach. But still, if I was the coach of a team, I'd be thinking, oh, you know, these people, I won't get up. I won't get up. I would be cognizant of the people watching. That sounds a lot like George giving a seat to the security guard because he's standing all day.
24:57Rich Eisen:That's what that sounds like. Absolutely. That's exactly right. That's exactly right. Yes. He's concerned about the security guards and he wants them to be comfortable. But to have two of them up and down like that, that's not good. That's not good. And it's a little showy. It's a little showy. Do you need the assistant running up and down in front of you screaming? We don't need that. Why is he doing that? It's not right. You're right. We should make a note of that. How important could that be what he's screaming out? Can't the coach scream out what he's screaming out? They need both of them.
25:38Rich Eisen:You're right. So a couple last ones for you, LD, and I'll let you go on with your Friday. What is it like to see Wembenyama in person? How massive is he physically as he's walking to the check-in right? Oh, I mean, the giant. But I was thinking this today. Okay. I was thinking that with my game, you know, my game underneath, you know, underneath a lot of moves. You understood your post, your post level. My post, even outside. I had some moves outside. I can go left. I was able to go left and put up a jumper. I was thinking with my game, if you put me at seven, four, I think, I think I would be that good.
26:21I really do.
26:23Rich Eisen:So you're saying, hold on a minute, just so I'm understanding. If you had Wemba Nyama's height, that's the only difference here. That's exactly right. Yeah, that's exactly right. Neck up, neck down, you know, you could be him if you're only seven foot four. Easily, easily. Yeah. My game could have translated.
26:50My game. could have translated to the NBA if I was 7 '4".
26:57Rich Eisen:Yes, I believe that for sure. Are you also fluent in French? Or that's another... That's a separator here. No, no, that's... Okay, that's a separator. I know a couple of Yiddish words in the, you know. So you gave him a Kinahara? You're giving Wembenyama Kinahara? Is that where you're going with that? also did you see this he's he's he's an you know he's he's amazing he is amazing and i couldn't believe they weren't going to him down low the knicks are knicks are in a penalty fourth quarter they're hoisting up threes what a bonus that was i couldn't believe yeah i i don't get why he's not playing in the post neither do i but i don't know you know having maybe he doesn't play well with his back to the basket.
27:45You remember Wilt? Wilt had that great fadeaway. Yes. Remember, he would take a step back and bank it off. Right.
27:54Rich Eisen:Yeah. I don't know. Heaven forbid there's a game six. You might be able to ask the assistant coach that. I won't be. I won't. I'm not going to game six. You're not? Oh. What? No. This is so bad for my health. You know? What are you trying to do? Kill me? I'm not going. I don't even know if I can watch it. I think I'm done watching. Come on. I can't. It's too much. It's too much for me. Game five, I'll be able to watch because, okay, well, we still got a six and seven. Right. But game six, back at the Garden, that's going to be one of those things. I don't know what I'm going to do. I have to say, if we lose game six, i am going to be very very nervous i don't know i if we look look where i'm going see see mr half empty don't don't get me started don't get me started because i i just see the the the worst in things okay don't know um but i guess it's paid off for me you know so yes it has life larry and the pursuit of unhappiness debuts june 26th 9 p.m eastern on hbo and hbo max this is your next project very funny and exciting ld yeah looking forward to it yeah i think it's funny and it's fun and it's you know i was a i was a history major in college and only because, well, it was kind of the easiest thing for me to major in.
29:35Everything else seemed a little, you know, what else should there be? Right. I suppose English, but that's a lot of reading.
29:47I mean, in English, yeah, you're going to be an English major. They're going to sign a lot of books. So I just thought history, I was able to memorize the stuff. And finally, it paid off.
29:58Rich Eisen:It paid off. Well, again, it's your imagining of what it was like back in these historic moments for these history-making moments to happen. Right. That's what this is coming up. Yeah. Some are made up and some are based on real facts that I've injected myself into the conversation. so the boston tea party the creation of the wright brothers flights you know what if larry david in a way playing a character was involved in these history making absolutely yes exactly yeah it's coming to hb and everyone should definitely watch it it is outstanding coming up uh life larry in the pursuit of unhappiness debuts june 26 9 p.m eastern on hbo available on hbo max One last thing.
30:47Rich Eisen:I don't know if you saw this, if this wound up in your text chains or an inbox. Somebody had a picture of you with Jerry after the game. And the caption is the Spurs know how to take the lead. They just don't know how to hold the lead. And that's the really most important part of the lead is the holding. I saw that. I just I love that. I thought that was so funny. Yeah. You know, and just we're just we're just taking down baskets. Yeah, that was really funny. Yeah. Yeah. That was good stuff. Larry, thanks for the time. I really appreciate it. I hope to I hope to share a game five moment with you, if not, then a game six.
31:32Rich Eisen:But do we are we watching it live on Saturday or are we assuming Saturday? So Saturday starts at 5.30 Pacific time. Correct, sir. And, you know, by the time the first half is over, now we're encroaching into the dinner area. It's Saturday night. I am married. She's not really that into it. So I have to kind of work this somehow.
32:08Rich Eisen:your wife is going to understand this is the next larry this is yeah yeah that's that's true that's that's true she understands yeah yeah i could i could tape the second half but i i i no i don't think i could i i couldn't take the second no i i'm gonna watch it there we go okay terrific so so uh but you know if it's a if it's a if it's a divorce it'll be worth it if they win if they win yeah understood yeah yeah otherwise then that's a lose lose that's for sure right yeah ld you're the best thanks for the time okay man you got it that's larry david everybody right here on the rich eyes and show life larry and the pursuit of unhappiness it's brilliant and it debuts june 26 non-eastern on hbo available to stream on hbo max as well well that went as well as i had hoped of course cultivated that caper oh my god larry david man my uh my cheeks hurt cheeks hurt that's what happens all right that was just he's a half glass guy normally the party nor he's not there for stuff back to this him and johnny mac i love that i i wouldn't did he pick so is that the assistant he's referring to the guy on the right that doesn't have a higher right a high enough ranking to have the the temerity to block his view yeah patrol the sideline like mitch johnson he understands but the assistant sit down i saw that on social media this morning and there's videos of him like, just get out of the way.
33:47Rich Eisen:Oh, is that right? I was like, this is a real Curve episode. Is that real? Okay. I saw it this morning. 844-204-RICH, number to dial right here on the Rich Eisen Show, where you never know who's going to stop by. Greg Berhalter, the former U.S. men's national team coach and now the coach of Chicago Fire Everybody. He's coming up in hour number three.
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35:57Rich Eisen:The Rich Eisen Show, the podcast. The stars at the FIFA World Cup, Hyundai already has its eyes on the next generation of talent. the future stars who are already turning heads at age 14 because next doesn't wait for an invitation and neither do we hyundai has always moved the future within reach we did it when we made advanced safety standard on every vehicle and engineered evs with ultra fast charging capability and we're still doing it every day the future isn't some far-off concept it's already here. Next starts now. Hyundai, an official partner of FIFA. How much fun was that chat with Larry David?
36:36This is a dream.
36:38Rich Eisen:It was for us. He's the greatest. He sure is. 844-204-RICH, number to dial here on the program. Ross in New Jersey. What's up, Ross? Mr. Rich, how's it going, man? How are you, sir? I'm going to speak. Okay, buddy. What's on your mind? I'm doing awesome, man. It's starting to feel a little bit more real, but it still doesn't feel all that real. You got to dig, man.
37:03Tom Pelissero:Like last time I talked to you, we're going on, what, 15-plus years since the team lasted in. The city was the second of the two Eli rings. And the way they've been doing it, you've kind of had a mix of everything, right? The blowout wins against Cleveland and Philly. I feel like the word blowout is an understatement. And then the comeback wins, the flair for the dramatic streak. You have the all-time comeback against Cleveland, and now that feels like some run-of-the-muck, you know, kind of middle of the week comeback compared to what they did the other night. And just the OG shot, too, off the rip feels like one of those all-time moments, like the David Tyree helmet catch, the Buckner play, just in this city alone, but from an all-time perspective.
37:42Tom Pelissero:And seeing that in live time, knowing it's going to be immortalized, like some of those plays to that extent, seeing that in live time, knowing the immortalization that's going to come with it The live time was pretty awesome, man. And it's starting to feel a little bit more real, but I feel like I'm still living in like a pipe dream with it.
37:59Rich Eisen:Ross, I'm with you, man. And I appreciate the call. I mean, Tim Legler said it in hour number one. They're going to be playing that tip in the open montage of NBA finals for the next 50 years. No doubt. You know, along with the shot or shove of Brian Russell. You know? Only at the Knicks win, though. I don't know about even if the Spurs come back and win it's still what then it becomes like the Julio Jones catch yeah in that Super Bowl against New England yeah the home run we were talking about playing this player hit against the Cubs like it's forgotten great moments in sports history and I think that's part of the reason why everybody who was able to stick around after that game felt like all right we're up three games to one this is a lead that's frequent like historically insurmountable yeah 37 and one right and so we are now it was as if they're like we're we're celebrating the championship now yeah that was one of the coolest moments about game four no one wanted to leave the arena yeah everyone was just hanging out kind of talking about what did we just see what did we just sharing the experiences it was awesome yeah you know so uh that's why i'm now leading we just larry by the way gave a top five list i just asked him if we're we're og ranked in terms of you know new york sports moments of all time and he went through a five so he was pretty good stole my thunder a little bit but he he named he named a couple moments that i did not put on here oh um here are my top five new york sports memory and moments presented by Hyundai.
39:44Rich Eisen:Hit it. High five. One, two, three, four, five. Rich's Top 5. Alright, the OG Ananobi putback for the Knicks to complete the biggest comeback in the history of the NBA Finals. It led me to talk about this and we just hit it with Larry David. Here are my Top 5 New York sports memories or moments presented by Hyundai. Number 5 was the 1996 Yankees World Series four-game win streak. I can't choose which one out of them all after the Yankees dropped the first two in Yankee Stadium to the unbeatable at the time, Atlanta Braves. And then they had to go to Atlanta Fulton County Stadium with John Smoltz on the mound and Pettit and Smoltz had a brilliant game three.
40:34Rich Eisen:And then there was that Mark Waller's moment, Jim Laird's homering in game four. Game five, The Yankees won that one, and then Game 6 was when they won their first World Series since I was, let me get this right, a 9-year-old in 1978. And Joe Girardi, triple, they beat Greg Maddox. Jimmy Key, what is he, 45, Jimmy Key, was the game-winning pitcher in Game 6. I'll just choose that four-game win streak in that World Series that looked pretty dark before the dawn. number four on the list is the New York Rangers break the curse um again I don't talk much hockey around here um I but when you're emotionally invested in it that that's what it's all about and I grew up listening to Rangers hockey on the radio and Marv Albert calling the the action I mean Brian Leach getting it done Mike Richter between the pipes and their own number 11 it's interesting enough you know back in the day number 11 Mark Messier who's leading the charge to try and win a championship for the first time in over 50 years.
41:38Rich Eisen:Number 11, Jalen Brunson. There's a lot of similarities going down right now between the Rangers' run in 94 breaking the curse and what the Knicks are doing right now. Hopefully they do complete it and not make it tighter like the Rangers did against the Vancouver Canucks back in the day. Number three, this is personal to me because I was covering it for ESPN Radio, And I will never forget being in the New York Yankees dugout tunnel in the old Yankee Stadium, not knowing what was going down in this extra inning game of this World Series game. But just when Derek Jeter homered to become the first Mr.
42:21Rich Eisen:November, because this game went past midnight into November 1st because of the fact that the season was delayed because of 9-11. and I'll never forget being the guy who was conducting interviews for ESPN radio in 2001 and everybody's screaming Jeter just homered go go go and we got pushed out I get goosebumps thinking about it we get pushed out onto the Yankee Stadium turf of the old Yankee Stadium where I grew up as a kid watching the Yankees and I just saw Jeter rounding third pumping his fist and I looked up and I saw 56 ,000 fans going absolutely crazy. I will never forget this moment as long as I live professionally, personally, and that cross-section of that moment makes it number three on this list.
43:06Rich Eisen:Number two is what we saw Wednesday night, the OG Ananobi putback, a.k.a. the Wu game for everybody out there. Because also, I mean, Wu-Tang Clan from Staten Island, like yours truly, So this moment, again, I can't believe it happened. I still don't believe it happened. And I understand, again, that the Knicks have to finish this thing off, right? Have to. In the same way the Buckner play for your Mets was not the end of the World Series. They still had to finish it off. They still had to be a game seven after a rain delay, I might add. Gold medal victory over the Soviets. I'm just going on and on and on about these great moments that everybody in the years after think that ended things.
43:59Rich Eisen:Knicks need to finish it off. Number one, this is what finished off the 1977 World Series and sealed me as a Yankee fan for the rest of my life. Reggie Jackson's three home run game. I was an eight-year-old kid. I will never forget this. I will never forget Howard Cosell at the mic. You know, I can't, I will never forget that. Because again, Howard Cosell and Marv Albert are why I fell in love with sports broadcasting and why I do what I do today. And Reggie Jackson is why I'm a Yankee fan today. And this is my greatest sports moment in memory. Go ahead and hit the button. Oh, all right, we'll get one more.
44:37Rich Eisen:And I'll do this too. Again, this is what sealed me as a Knicks fan. Again, I grew up loving the Knicks in the 70s. but when Bernard King went back-to-back 50-point games in 1984 in the state of Texas, this is when I'm like, okay, things can be particularly special for the New York Knicks. And the first guy that the ABC broadcast showed after the game ended, the first former Knick that the ABC broadcast popped on was Bernard King. And that was a special moment for me. I love Bernard King. Jalen Brunson's getting up there, man. Jalen Brunson is more 30-point games in last year's playoffs, 10. That set the record for most in a single postseason for the Knicks.
45:22Rich Eisen:He now has eight, as many as Bernard King's previous record was. So Brunson is in the Bernard King realm in terms of what he's doing on the court and in terms of what he's doing for fans like me. That's my top five brought to you by Hyundai. Discover what's next at your local Hyundai dealer, like our next generation EV. the Ioniq 9 Hyundai, official partner of FIFA World Cup 2026. Speaking of that, the former U.S. men's national team coach, Greg Berhalter, stopping by before tonight's World Cup debut of the current iteration involving his son of the U.S. men's national team. The Ridge Eisen Show podcast.
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NFL Insider Tom Pelissero and Rich discuss how much interest NFL teams would have in Texas Tech QB Brendan Sorsby if he were to enter the Supplemental Draft in the wake of his gambling scandal, the Minnesota Vikings’ Kyler Murray vs JJ McCarthy QB competition, Deshaun Watson’s chances to beat out Shedeur Sanders and Dillon Gabriel in the Cleveland Browns’ QB competition.
Knicks fan Larry David tells Rich how much watching Game 4’s comeback thriller while courtside at MSG aged him, reveals the pitfalls of having courtside seats, claims he could have played in the NBA if he were Victor Wembanyama’s height, and promotes his new history-based HBO comedy series.
Rich reveals where OG Anunoby’s Game 4 tip in ranks among his all-time greatest New York sports moments.
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