Hour 2: Mina Kimes on Seahawks, 49ers, Chiefs + Eagles vs Chiefs Rematch Preview

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1:35Rich Eisen:Frank Caliendo here. What would John Madden say? We're going to steal the Declaration of Independence. Earlier on the show, host of Pro Football Talk Live, Mike Florio. Coming up, ESPN NFL analyst, Mina Kimes. Actor, Kyle McLaughlin. And now, it's Rich Eisen. Our number two of this Thursday edition of the Rich Eisen Show on the kickoff of week number two in Green Bay, Wisconsin tonight between the Commanders and the Packers is on the air. Media times are going to join us in 20 minutes. If you missed our number one, Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk was on this program, breaking down a lot of the news that's going on.

2:18Rich Eisen:And also, one of our callers called in when higher register, which those who might be new to this program, we always point out when people go higher register, it's to say something they don't really believe in. They have to go higher register to actually mean what they say or or a prediction that they're kind of half hearted in doing. And so later on, we're going to bring back that segment. We've been doing it for a while, but we stopped doing it for the higher register. We're going to each have a prediction for week two that we kind of believe in. But you have to go high register in order to believe.

2:54Rich Eisen:People have been asking for it, you know, which means they really want to see it. And trust me, just be careful when you watch this segment. You take it in as you will notice when others in your life go higher register. And it's a tell. Yeah, it is a big time. Big time tell. It is a tell. And also, oh, yeah, an hour number one. We have a new toy that I've been playing with quite a bit. It's from yesterday's program. If you miss Frank Caliendo, he was genius. He broke out a new Jerry Jones and we have a new drop. Yeah, so anytime we talk about Parsons, let's just snort. TJ can't get enough. We might not.

3:30Rich Eisen:We've got to cut that. I don't think so. I can't. Well, in hour three, get ready. What's going on? Get ready. You've got to snort in his knees. It's coming around to me. I don't know how. It's coming around to me. We're a little rondelay over here, a little wheel route. and an hour through we're previewing tonight's show tonight's game and predicting it and so later on we might have one more drop opportunity just hit it one more time Macca I just muted my mic so that's tonight's game and we all know the marquee if you will on the Sunday marquee with all due respect to Sunday Night Football and our friends at NBC as you know I will be full-on tuned into Sunday Night Football to see how J.J.

4:17Rich Eisen:McCarthy opens up his home start schedule. And you know I will be all in on the pregame and the throughout the game video of the last time they faced Michael Penix Jr. Because that was the greatest night of my football life. You were there, right? I was not. Oh, you didn't go to that. No, I didn't. I went to the Rose Bowl and stayed here. so I was not at the national championship game in Houston but listen we all know the piece of filet mignon on the week 2 schedule belongs to our friends at Fox when Tom Brady, TB12 will be sitting next to Kevin Burkhart in the booth and we'll be settling into a Super Bowl rematch so what's at stake?

5:05Rich Eisen:we all know what's at stake I have it written down here just to make sure I haven't forgotten it because I'm a lead pipe-wielding professional. Would you care to guess the last time the Kansas City Chiefs started 0-2? Christopher Brockman? Do you want to guess? Do you want to guess? Anybody? Bueller? 2021? Nope. TJ? Oh, wait. 2015. Oh, you're so close, but if it was Price is Right rules, you're still over. 2014. So I win? I guess because you went all the way back. What do you mean you guessed? That's how the game works. You did. Guys, we have some nice parting gifts for you. 2014 was the last time the Kansas City Chiefs went 0-2.

5:44It was the only time in Andy Reid's 13 years,

5:50Rich Eisen:including this year's tenure, of the Kansas City Chiefs in which the Chiefs did not make the playoffs. Missed it entirely. They went 9-8.

6:01Rich Eisen:So Mahomes has never started 0-2. They're staring right down the pike right now. and of course all the questions this week are about what happened last time they faced each other which was an absolute tar and feathering beatdown of the kansas city chiefs absolute disaster i mean the fact that the super bowl lost to tampa which caused the chiefs to say we can't let our wonder kind run around for his life anymore we got to hit that offensive line We got to go ahead and do something significant to prevent this from happening again. And what the Eagles did to Mahomes was sack him a career high six times in a game.

6:49Rich Eisen:That was a new low point for him in running for his life. So, of course, Mahomes was asked how much he revisits that moment in advance of this rematch this weekend. I'll watch every game after. So you have to learn from it. But, I mean, it sucks that you lose the game. But in order to progress and to be better next time, you have to watch it and learn from it. And so I don't know the exact amount of times, but you watch it, and then you watch it in the offseason with the team and with the coaches, and then you watch it obviously this week as well. And so they had a great game plan. They played hard and did a great job of disrupting my timing.

7:25And so I have to learn from that, find ways to get the ball out of my hand. And then when the opportunities are there, I think that's something I did miss early in the game because there was opportunities to make plays, and you've got to make those plays. If you don't, they're not going to allow those opportunities again.

7:39Rich Eisen:Can I on whether Xavier Worthy is playing? Because when we had Andy Reid in our pre-broadcast Zoom in advance of the YouTube game in Brazil, Reid was talking about, and all of them were talking, Reid and Mahomes and Travis Kelsey, about how everybody took responsibility for their hand in that Super Bowl loss and how healthy that was. like Andy Reid was we asked him about how do you help your team bounce back from something like that and he said just listening to them because everybody was talking about what they didn't do not what everyone else wasn't doing which is why seeing Drew Tranquil bark at Chris Jones in the loss in Brazil it's the opposite of that now we had Chris Long on yesterday's program or two days ago and he basically said that's healthy Dante Hightower barked at me back in the day and we were cool so listen um what Reed said in taking his own responsibility is he said that Xavier Worthy there was a an opportunity to have a package for him in the quick game and um they weren't able to execute it they didn't do it kind of went away from it in that game and That's where he said we do have a significant package for him in Brazil.

8:57Rich Eisen:And then three snaps in collision with Travis Kelsey. And that goes out the window. How much action will we see from Xavier worthy? If at all, because that would be significant because everybody would slay. Now gone is going right at the side that Quinone Mitchell. Isn't we saw your Cowboys do that. We saw CD lamb have quite the night, you know, went after dory jackson and that's where i think the chiefs are going to be trying to make some hay here and the question is with who is it with hollywood brown could it be with xavier worthy what are we going to see there and then of course you know how are they going to protect up front now they do have the highest paid center in right guard and those are the guys i imagine that will be paying attention to Jalen Carter, whose return gives the Eagles more than a spitting chance.

9:56Woo!

9:58Rich Eisen:I find myself so funny. We'll be here all week, folks. Tip your service. Very expensive saliva that man has. I mean, if just a little... If a little spittle is$57 ,000 worth, could you imagine what the whole thing is? Might have been a lot. So he'll be playing his first action of the season, and I imagine the Eagles will target A.J. Brown once before the final drive of the game this time around. Almost guaranteed. Higher register? I'm going higher register. I don't think I have to go that high to believe it. I would bet he gets the first play of the game. You think so? Devontae Smith didn't have much going in his direction either.

10:43Rich Eisen:Yeah, but he's not going to complain. Well, A.J. Brown didn't either. well i remember last year i remember he's reading books trying to stay calm and find his inner excellence i know eagles if you recall last year started two and two and everybody's like what's going on there and snap cut to four months later fetty yeah they're greasing telephone poles so we'll see here with the Eagles, you know, their opening night seemed to be just like the Cowboys after the rainstorm, a bit of a gear grind. But they made the right plays. They're going into Arrowhead. How much will that matter significantly, I would say.

11:33Rich Eisen:Again, I just counsel everybody that the Chiefs are gettable right now. Let's see how things work out over the next six weeks. If you do get them because they are beatable in your mind, just I remind you, where She-Rice comes back, it's a long marathon. And then in between, even with everything, with Xavier Worthy going out, and with them having, just like last year, multiple drives of 10-plus plays, grinding it out, you know? I know Butker missed an extra point, but he nailed one from 59 out in a fire drill. You know, the punt god was still downing the ball inside to 10. Defensively, I know Chris Jones took that poor path and that they were out of sorts defensively.

12:27Rich Eisen:And I think Meena Koms is joining us to talk about that shortly. They still had a chance to win that game. As for the Eagles, Jalen Hurts, I was told, gave a bunch of bulletin board material to the Kansas City team. Wait a minute. I'm told that's the exact opposite. It's just another opportunity for us. You know, that's been my approach on it. You know, we got a lot that we can learn from this past week. We know we're playing a really good team. It's a new team, and we're a new team. But just approaching it with that mentality and just taking really a day at a time with our preparation. Do you get extra excited for going up against Patrick Mahomes, someone that's viewed as, if not the best, one of the best quarterbacks in the league?

13:10You've faced him before. Does that get you extra up for a game like that? It's just another opportunity. I look at it as another opportunity, you know, looking inward and just focusing on the things that we can build on as a team. As I said last week, there are a lot of opportunities to grow from. We're playing a new team. We're a new team, and we just want to approach it with that. Be diligent every single day in our prep.

13:35Rich Eisen:I'm just wondering deep down, Jalen Hurts, like, you excited to play Patrick Mahomes, Jalen? You excited about that? Do you have the drop, Jay Fillion? What up, were they really thinking? I'm just wondering if what Jalen Hurts was really thinking is like, I have a follow-up question for you, kind sir of the media. Who's the reigning Super Bowl MVP? Oh, who's the guy who was on an offense that eviscerated Patrick Mahomes' defense, allowing my defense to do the same to Mahomes? Oh, okay. Who's the guy who has come from the middle of nowhere on depth charts in Alabama and here where nobody thought I was going to get a chance and everyone's wondering why am I still here?

14:31Rich Eisen:Who's turned into the man? Oh, why don't you go ask Patrick Mahomes if he's excited at an opportunity to take on a quarterback that was the last MVP of the Super Bowl? Why don't you go ask him that question? I'm wondering, is there an even slight sliver of an ounce of that in Jalen Hurts? He'll never show it. never ever ever show it it's in there but what do you think he won't do he won't let it out he keeps that animal caged but everyone he's got the like he said when he called in years ago rich he's got the dog in him right he keeps that animal caged until game day right i mean it might come out and practice yeah practice weight room weight room for sure would anybody ask patrick mahomes that question hey patrick you excited to take on any other quarterback in the league name another one?

15:22Rich Eisen:Josh Allen? If you want to put me on a flight to KC, I guarantee you that question gets asked. Okay, I don't know. I don't think so. I mean, be careful. You don't want to mess with your invite to all the weddings in Kansas City. Stone Street, if he does it again in front of people. Good point there. Kelsey. Listen, I'll tell you, one of my favorite storylines coming into the season is is how will mahomes internalize and externalize getting beat and hearing everybody say it's the time to get the chiefs and the windows closing if not closed and he showed up looking like mahomes has never looked body shape wise and he was really spry in Brazil.

16:11Rich Eisen:He looked ready to roll, guys. And he ran one in. I'm telling you, that's one way to come into this. I was coming to the season. I can't wait to see in this game. And the other one that I was mentioning is how will Jalen Hurts wear being the Super Bowl MVP? By that, I mean externally and then internalize it with his play. And I can't wait to see this on the field in Arrowhead. If he goes in and just like, we're back. And it's the same thing. And you're now 0-2 for the first time ever in the Mahomes era. And we're coming out of Arrowhead with a new Chiefs pelt on our wall from the Super Bowl and your home opener.

16:59Rich Eisen:And you're 0-2 for the first time. And the Eagles stroll into the rest of their season 2-0 like that. And their next game is at home against the Rams and that, you know, they'll probably be hearing if this matters from parts like this and all around. Hey, that's the team that gave you the most trouble last year. You know, if somehow, someway they blocked Jalen Carter, you know, Mahomes, Stafford had somebody open in the snow, you might not have gone anywhere. Then Tampa, which is, had fun at the Eagles' expense going back to the SAP era and then the current team. Yeah, Gerald McCoy mentioned that on game day.

17:38Rich Eisen:last week. One and four against the Bucs, their last five? Here we go, man. And if they go into that stretch at one and one and the Chiefs now feel good about themselves at one and one because they've exercised a ghost in turning a page, that's what's at stake on Sunday afternoon. If it is a similar blueprint and outcome of the Super Bowl, will you then be worried about the Chiefs? At 0-2, seeing the same thing? I'd be worried about their chances to win the division again, but not bouncing back and making the playoffs and being a wildcard team and going on another different type of run where it's now on you to have your best day and you're the ones that have to knock off the champs of your conference.

18:26Rich Eisen:But losing the division is a real possibility when you're 0-2, although the one thing about this loss that's the silver lining is it's out of conference. Yeah, non-conference, non-division. Right. So it's still only 0-1 in conference and division. But concern about them missing the playoffs entirely like the last time they were 0-2? Nuh-uh. No, sir. Not at all. Yeah, me neither. I was just curious if it's a similar Super Bowl outcome. I appreciate you were curious and you asked the question. That's why I'm here. 844-204-RICH. Number to dial. Meena Kimes will join us coming up. We'll talk about her thoughts on this subject matter right next on the Rich Eisen Show.

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20:57The honor of a lifetime. No, I mean, it was a thrill. It was such a thrill.

21:02Rich Eisen:But you don't have to tee anything up, Chris. You don't have to tee a thing up. Certainly when it involves... Well, whatever. It was great to have you that night. That was a blast. Like, honestly, I don't know how I was to you, but I was... No, it was. Like, I was out of body. I might have blacked out a couple times. You know, just... It was wild. I actually worried that I was not ruining it, although i'm sure some corners of the internet no no no i i i felt bad because how much i was laughing during your highlights but i like that it was it was no idea well i was like i don't want to laugh so hard that people can't actually hear what he's saying no but that's so funny no i i again i did stand up in college and and it's not like it's the job of uh cohorts or anybody behind a camera on a set to laugh at anything that i'm doing and yet but but yet and if i don't get that feedback i think something isn't working so i appreciate and i like that that's normal right like you say something funny i can laugh i say something funny you can laugh but it doesn't matter if we're on tv it's it's relatable to somebody at home i don't mind that at all okay good that was the one thing i was like oh i hope i didn't laugh over him no and again baseball highlights in particular were very funny but i mean again back in the sports center days you know like uh we would laugh at each other's stuff and you know stewart would hop in all my highlights like non-stop you know and that happened but uh it was great and i appreciate you you being there um that night you know and what a game that was too that we were following of somewhat import of preseason commanders and bengals and now here we are on a night tonight where the commanders are taking on on the packers uh that's my first item up for bids for you is how you think tonight's game is going to play out and what the key for this evening is i mean what a Thursday night showdown.

22:50They must be grateful over at Amazon to get this one, especially after how the Packers looked week one. I think that's what I'm so interested in, Rich, is the Packers look like a Super Bowl team, right? But week one, it's hard sometimes to know how good are these teams without putting them in proper context, and the commanders are going to be a true challenge for them, particularly the run defense. That's the key that I'm so interested in because, you know, So despite losing the greatest run defender of all time, Kenny Clark, if you ask Jerry Jones, the Packers—I feel bad. Kenny Clark's a great player.

23:22But the Packers' run defense looked phenomenal against a Detroit team that obviously was one of the best rushing attacks in football last year. Held them to under one and a half yards before contact per carry, which was 27th in the league. On the flip side, the Commanders were third in rushing yards before contact last week against New York. So this would be like a strength-on-strength matchup. And I think we're going to learn a lot about both teams, but I'm really interested. Is that Packers run defense as good as they looked week one? I think we're going to find out tonight.

23:53Rich Eisen:And then I guess another question would be, is the commander's defense as good as what we saw against the Giants, or is it the Giants offense? Oh, you're already shaking your head. The Giants offense where everybody in New York, New Jersey, metropolitan area is looking where Jackson Dart is right now. Oh, God. Well, that's a whole other. We actually talked about that, I think, at the SportsCenter, right? about Jackson Dart and how tricky it was to find a starting spot for him. But to focus on the commander's defense for a second, I don't think so. I think that's one where it's like, okay, you got to face a pretty bad offense week one.

24:24And I think this is a massive challenge for Dan Quinn because, you know, this Green Bay Packers offense under Matt LaFleur has chewed up his defenses. You remember the wildcard game against Dallas where they put up like a 48 burger, I think it was, on them. and Jordan Love was just having guys wide open off of play action. That's my concern, I think, in this game is that side of the ball because I think commander's offense versus Packers defense feels pretty evenly matched. I think potentially in this one we're going to see that the Packers offense is too much for this commander's defense.

24:58Rich Eisen:Mina Kimes here on the Rich Eisen Show. You want to chime in on Seahawks, what you thought of their first week? Mina? It kind of looked like what I expected, Rich, which is this is one of the best defenses in the NFL. I truly believe that. And I think the offense is just a work in progress. A lot of moving parts, a lot of change. I think Clint Kubiak wants to run a system where Sam Darnold is under center, play action, wide zone rushing attack. But it's one thing to want to do that. It's another when you're a little bit outgunned on the offensive line. I think you also saw outside of Jackson Smith and Jigba, just not many answers in terms of that receiving group.

25:31And he locked in on JSN and JSN was fantastic. But I think that's going to be a problem all season long.

25:36Rich Eisen:Okay, so your level of concern for Sam Darnold is what? What do you think? I'm not panicking because I don't think he was like, he played super poorly per se, but I also think he's so clearly in an inferior situation to what he was in Minnesota, and that's what it looked like, right? So I think it's just going to be, you know, I think he'll be competent for them. I think there'll be games against inferior defenses where this offense looks good. I just don't think they have enough dudes out there. They need one of the young players, whether it's a Torrey Horton or an Elijah Royo, to step up as a secondary pass catcher to Smith and Jake.